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Utility Talk:Tweak

2008-08-04T15:20:48Z

Aluminus: 39e fix not complete

== Suggested Addition(s) ==

How hard would it be to adapt [http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Utilities#Regional_Prospector Regional Prospector] [http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/User_talk:0x517A5D#Seekret_Projekt 1] [http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/User:0x517A5D#Seekret_Projekt 2] to this application? 
From what I've seen of your newest tool, it looks like it should become the standard for future 'tweaks' :p 
Thanks tons for your contributions to the cause! --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 19:41, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

Oh, and one other idea...
Perhaps a small readme/guide for each of the tools? 
Something like those on the Utilities page would be fine. 

: It could probably be easily ported but I'm not sure I want to take someone elses work so quickly for Tweak. I am working on that kind of a list (see the Tile Edit link on the core modules list). —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:49, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

::List? RP doesn't make lists that I know of. And I know TileEdit can create magma/lava (which one is it btw? lava I'm guessing, since I don't think it can create a replenishing pipe in it's current form.) but unless I really get desperate, I'm not going to make a huge pool of lava to tap for various oddities. (i.e. traps/constructions) TileEdit's great for occasionally making a single tile of the stuff when it'd otherwise be a pain to get the liquid to the desired point, or for replenishing an already small source. Unless you're planning on making TileEdit capable of modifying regional tiles, (or alternatively, working like a designation for many tiles at once...) I don't see how it could relate to what RP does. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 17:31, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

:::As far as I can tell, the list in question is a list of readmes/guides like those on the Utilities page.
:::Magma = lava in an underground square. Lava = magma in an aboveground square. They are identical in all but name. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 19:52, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

::::Is there an as yet unidentified flag that causes replenishment? --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 00:15, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

:::By 'list' I meant looking up what mineral types, etc, are in the current map. The module is called 'Survey', for obvious reasons. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 00:39, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

::::Hmm.. well, unless you plan on doing that at an embark level, (as opposed to the in-fort level it sounds like,) it still won't be duplicating any effects that RP currently does. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 00:15, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

::::: I don't intend to duplicate the features of it. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 01:04, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

== Help for the Noob(s) ==

Just downloaded the tweaker after some confusion, for the sake of healing the sole broker of my fort so he can get up and trade smartly enough to save my fort (to be filled with lava, but that's beside the point). Once I started it on up, all the modules but the address lookup were red, and the lookup only turns up <address name="starting_dwarf_count" value="0x00f77927"'.

I'm not entirely sure where to go from here... Any guide forthcoming?

: Red modules mean they are incompatible, I'm going to assume you are running on .38b, the latest is .38c, which Tweak has full support for. I did not bother to provide full support for .38b. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 05:34, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

== Error report ==

For some reason, the latest version (1.2.0.1) crashes whenever I try to run it. This is with or without DF running. Version 1.1.0.0 on the other hand worked fine for me, and still does. This is the debugging info returned for the crash in 1.2.0.1:
An unhandled exception of type 'System.IO.FileNotFoundException' occurred in Gibbed.DwarfFortress.Tweak.exe

Additional information: Could not load file or assembly
'System.Core, Version=3.5.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089'
or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.
This is with it directly extracted from the zip with proper folder structure, no changes made. I've also tried moving it out to a root folder on the drive in case the long path was confusing it with no success. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 01:04, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

: Sounds like you don't have .NET 3.5 installed. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 01:53, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

:: Did version 1.1.0.0 not require it? That version has been working fine, and I could have sworn I had to install the .NET 3.5 Framework to get it working.
:: However, whatever the case, I've just (re?)installed the 3.5 framework and that does indeed seem to have taken care of it. Thanks. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 02:38, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

::: I wasn't using any features of 3.5 yet -- which changed with 1.2.0.0. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 03:40, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

Found an error in the adjust profile module, happens when I click the "reset profile" button when "reset/read/write all" is checked.
System.ArgumentException: 'child' is not a child control of this parent.
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlCollection.GetChildIndex(Control child, Boolean throwException)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlCollection.GetChildIndex(Control child)
at Rinn.DwarfFortress.Tools.AdjustProfile.Configuration.textBox_TextChanged(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnTextChanged(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.TextBoxBase.OnTextChanged(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.set_Text(String value)
at System.Windows.Forms.TextBoxBase.set_Text(String value)
at System.Windows.Forms.TextBox.set_Text(String value)
at Rinn.DwarfFortress.Tools.AdjustProfile.Configuration.buttonReset_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
[[User:Cheapweed|Cheapweed]] 18:01, 12 April 2008 (EDT)

: Please report that [[User_talk:Rinn/AdjustProfile|on Rinn's AdjustProfile talk page]] —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:33, 12 April 2008 (EDT)

== NET 3.5 Compatability ==
Just a quick FYI: Those of us on 2000 cannot (as far as I've been able to determine) install .NET 3.5, which makes it impossible to use the latest version of Tweak. Keeping the 1.1 version online maintains availability of this invaluable tool to those of us who refuse to be infected with the XP virus. —[[User:Rochndil|Rochndil]] 14:49, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

: While I do use .NET 3.5 features, I will see if I can move to .NET 2.0 (or make a 2.0 compatible version). —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:58, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

: Or leave it. Seeing as its an 8 year old Operating system that you can't buy any more. More to the point if you are running DF your computer is more than adequate for running Windows XP. --[[User:Gorfob|Gorfob]] 19:00, 14 July 2008 (EDT)

== Blue modules ==
I just installed Tweak for the first time and I seem to have a problem. The buttons beside all the modules are blue, not green like in the picture, and the modules don't appear to do anything. I am running DF version 0.27.176.38c and Tweak version 1.2.0.0. I tied to update to version 1.2.0.1 but it still shows as the old version.

: If your Tile Edit is 1.1, not 1.0, you have 1.2.0.1. As for blue modules, you need to 'Select Process' before you can use anything. There is an option to automatically select a process on startup. Once you do this, modules will either turn red or green as like before. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:58, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

== Windows Installer 3.1 ==

It says I need Windows Installer 3.1. Help? --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 19:12, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

:Tweak does, or the .NET 3.5 install does? —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:58, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

::Sorry. .NET 3.5 install does. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 11:41, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

:::What operating system are you using? [http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=889482fc-5f56-4a38-b838-de776fd4138c&displaylang=en Windows Installer 3.1 Redistributable] —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 12:16, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

::::Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack 2.
::::Out of curiosity, what does that 3.1 installer do? --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 15:55, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

:::::It's for MSI installers I would assume. Though I'm not sure how you don't have the Windows Installer 3.1 on XP. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:49, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

== Freezing Tile Edit ==

For some reason, whenever I edit a tile using the Tile Edit programme, the next dwarf to step on the tile freezes to death (as will the many dwarves who come to loot the corpse). In the tile edit window, in the temperature section, it shows 0 in the first box (always) and another number of around 12000 in the second. The values by themselves give no indication as to the temperature, and even when I leave them alone, simply changing the tile will result in it becoming a freezing tile of death.
I have no idea if anyone else is experiencing this with tile edit, or whether I'm doing something horribly wrong.
{{unsigned|Maw3193}}

:I get this whenever I try to add water to a square. The water freezes into a block of absolute-zero ice, and freezes to death anybody who steps on it. It doesn't happen when I add magma, or change magma depth. The title bar says version 1.2.0.0, but TileEdit is 1.1 so I guess it's actually 1.2.0.1 (see above) [[User:Anydwarf|Anydwarf]] 12:56, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
::Tile Edit is broken like this. You need to manually set a temperature for EVERY tile you edit. Rick, fix it! >8( --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMario]] 15:44, 3 May 2008 (EDT)
::Also, as an addendum, the top temperature is the NEW temperature for the tile, the bottom temperature is the CURRENT temperature. --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMario]] 15:45, 3 May 2008 (EDT)
::It's not just absolute-zero. According to the Dwarf Fortress temperature scale, it's over nine thousand degrees below absolute-zero :) – [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Maw3193|Maw3193]]

:::Before editing any of the tile, press Reset first, it should fill the first temperature in for you. --[[User:SP2|SP2]] 19:20, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

::::Still doesn't work for me, I've tried all of this. I've set the temperature about five different times.. still the freezing tile of DOOM. --[[User:Jaxstrife|Jaxstrife]] 20:51, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

:::::I've identified the bug and it will be fixed in the next release. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 08:16, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

== Developer page ==

I'm interested in making a module for Tweak, will there be more info soon about contributing to it?
(if there is a page I couldn't find that talks about it, feel free to let me know :)
--[[User:Corc|Corc]]

: There hasn't really been any demand for it, but now that there is I'll fill out some info for you. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 01:33, 27 April 2008 (EDT)

:: [[User:Rick/Tweak/Development|I've added some preliminary information to the development page]]. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 17:41, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

How easy would it be to get started with writing a module? I assume Tweak handles the memory editing, but does it hand the module a bunch of bytes, or a fully parsed structure? I'd be interested in at least trying to write up a module.. Maybe you could just post the source for Heal or one of the other simple modules. [[User:Anydwarf|Anydwarf]] 18:57, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

I would just like to add my vote for a .NET 2.0 version since 3+ causes severe problems on my system trying to connect to M$ all the time :P

:I downloaded 3.5 and even got the express versions of Visual Studio to play with. I believe there is an option to "check" when you install that will stop it from contacting MS--I was asked a few times.
:--[[User:Corc|Corc]] 23:57, 28 April 2008 (EDT)

: Tweak's memory access doesn't deal with structures, but does allow for easy reading of common data types (and raw memory, if that's your deal). Reading structures may come in the future, though. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 17:41, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

== Adjust Start: Less Than Seven Dwarves Crashes Game Upon Embarking ==

Crash replicated on two different computers both running windows XP both using .38c version of DF. Different parameter set worlds and different local areas still results in crash, as does both embarking carefully and not carefully. When it crashes I get an error message from windows saying that "dwarffort.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close." I have tested this for 1, 4, and 6 dwarves with the game crashing, and found that with 10 dwarves it did not crash.

== Reveal ==

(Debated about putting this here or on your sample code discussion.) To test out making a new module (very easy btw, awesome) I modified reveal to just reveal interesting stuff like ore and gems. Instead of releasing a whole new (very similar and 99% your code) module maybe you could add a quick if statement/popup that people could check when they run it? Basically what I did was inside the nested for loops I added in getting the "type" data and if the type was for an event, <code>B8 01</code>, then I'd let it do your unhide bit.

<pre>
memory.Read(block + designation, ref data);
memory.Read(block + typeoffset, ref types); // added types, half the size of data, (256 * 2)
for (int i = 0; i < 16 * 16; i++)
{
byte[] temp = BitConverter.GetBytes(BitConverter.ToInt16(types, i * 2)); // actual type
if (temp[0] == 184) // I found that 0xB8 is all that is needed to check
{
byte[] newdata = BitConverter.GetBytes(BitConverter.ToUInt32(data, i * 4) & ~0x200);
data[(i * 4) + 0] = newdata[0];
data[(i * 4) + 1] = newdata[1];
data[(i * 4) + 2] = newdata[2];
data[(i * 4) + 3] = newdata[3];
}
}
</pre>

This unhides only Gems, Ore, "Special" Stone like Orthocast, adamantine and any other out of the ordinary biome stone.

I thought about making a crazy convoluted module that would scan the map for types of events and let the user enable the ones they wanted unhidden and then unhide them. But, after going into the event list and finding event IDs (I've got a complete list now) I found it to be too crazy... actually as I typed that I figured out how I could do it with about a forth of what I had coded earlier.
--[[User:Corc|Corc]] 04:04, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

== .NET install freeze? ==

Does .NET ever finish installing? As I write this it's been sitting with a full progress bar for 35 minutes, and took an inordinate amount of time to even get there. (And the bootstrap downloader was completely unusable, kept losing progress.) 
As far as I can tell, it's not even spinning the HDD... though it went through long periods of that before, too. 
Addendum: Rebooting on its own didn't help, but rebooting and aggressively killing running processes down to the bare-bones did... finally.– [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Shurhaian|Shurhaian]]

:That's some highly unusual behavior, and I would recommend a through virus and adware scan using atleast two versions of each. 
:For Viruses, [http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ Trend Micro] has a good online scanner, and [http://free.grisoft.com/ AVG] is a good offline scanner. 
:For Adware, [http://www.safer-networking.org/en/spybotsd/index.html Spybot S&D] is just about as good as it gets, and [http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx Microsoft] has a semi-decent one as well. 
:All of these are free. Hope this helps! If not, *could be* some core OS files have been damaged somehow, and *may* require a re-install. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 21:40, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

== Another on the 3.5 bug list ==

Allright; I have .net Framework 3.5 installed and its giving me the same error a guy midway up had;
the.......... IO.notfound thing

Okay scratch that i unzipped tweak again and its running fine.
it seems tweak doesnt like XP.

Your program has good tastes sir.

== Problem not otherwise found on here. ==
When trying to select a process, I get this error. Net framework 3.5 is installed.
<pre>
************** Exception Text **************
System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. ---> System.InvalidOperationException: This implementation is not part of the Windows Platform FIPS validated cryptographic algorithms.
at System.Security.Cryptography.MD5CryptoServiceProvider..ctor()
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeConstructor(Object[] args, SignatureStruct& signature, IntPtr declaringType)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeConstructor(Object[] args, SignatureStruct signature, RuntimeTypeHandle declaringType)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeConstructorInfo.Invoke(BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture)
at System.Security.Cryptography.CryptoConfig.CreateFromName(String name, Object[] args)
at System.Security.Cryptography.MD5.Create(String algName)
at System.Security.Cryptography.MD5.Create()
at Gibbed.DwarfFortress.Tweak.GameVersionLoader.GetProcessHash(Process process)
at Gibbed.DwarfFortress.Tweak.ModulePicker.onSelectProcess(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripButton.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
</pre>

:What version of windows are you running? —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:47, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

== .NET 3.5 errors: Tweak not Vista compatiale? ==

I have installed .NET 3.5 and tried to run Tweak on my computer. However, It instantly crashes. Is there anything else I should have installed? I am running windows Vista.

Thanks.

:Can you please paste the exact error, I cannot help with problems without knowing specifics. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:46, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

I Have the exact same problem, the error is the default vista error. i think this only happens with the newest version of tweak, as i used to beable to run it (though the tile editor never ran for me) —[[User:Corhen|Corhen]] 8:55, 15 July 2008

==Start Error==
Opening Tweak, the program crashes. There's no error message per se, it just doesn't open and give the default windows error message, and asks me if I want to send a report. Help?

:you need to install separately .NET 1.1 as well as .NET 2.0, .NET 3.5 does not install these previous versions....

Even with all versions of .NET that exist already installed, Tweak crashed on startup. I am using an up-to-date version of WinXP SP3. I hope that it causes no problems that I unfortunately have a German language version of XP. Proof of installed .NET versions: http://members.arstechnica.com/x/dio82/software.png

Error message:

EventType : clr20r3 P1 : gibbed.dwarffortress.tweak.exe P2 : 1.2.0.0
P3 : 47f19dc1 P4 : mscorlib P5 : 2.0.0.0 P6 : 471ebc5b P7 : 3404
P8 : 119 P9 : system.io.directorynotfound

Many thanks to potential fixes -[[User:Dio82|Dio82]] 08:36, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

I'd just like to note that I also have all three .NET versions downloaded and installed, and I still get the general Windows Vista error message (Tweak has stopped working, windows is searching for a solution... A program caused the program to stop working, windows will close the program). I've tried starting up Tweak before loading DF, during the DF title screen, and while playing a current fortress. I didn't, however, get the detailed error message described above. --[[User:Untelligent|Untelligent]] 21:57, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

:The above error message is part of the report that XP/Vista wants to send to Microsoft. Just click on details of the report when Vista prompts you about sending that report. --[[User:Dio82|Dio82]] 06:05, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

:It didn't prompt me for sending a report. --[[User:Untelligent|Untelligent]] 16:17, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

:This error is basically saying you did not extract Tweak correctly, the Tweak zip file contains several directories that Tweak needs to function correctly. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:46, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

==Reveal and Profile Edit Issue==

I've downloaded your program and managed to get a few features working, such as the one that allows you to change your starting dwarf number and points. The two modules I wanted to use most, however, Reveal and Profile Edit, don't seem to want to work at all, and as far as I can tell, I'm not getting a program error so much as... I don't know, a failure to recognize something. I'm not a programmer, you'll notice.

When attempting to use Reveal at the regional map, I get [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/Bitscape2000/RevealProblem.jpg this].

When attempting to use the Profile Editor at the "preparing carefully" screen, as it says, I get [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/Bitscape2000/ProfileProblem.jpg this], and if I click the OK button it says [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/Bitscape2000/ProfileProblem2.jpg this].

Apologies for the largish screenshots. Any idea what might help? --[[User:Anfini|Anfini]] 15:57, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

: The Reveal tool is only used while already embarked. Find a place to start your fortress, embark, and then run Reveal. And, keep in mind if you want to reveal all of the map you have to designate the bottom layer for digging completely then undesignated it BEFORE you run reveal--this will make DF load up the map for Reveal to find. As for the other errors, I'm not sure what is going on. Sorry. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 18:36, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

::Thanks for the help with Reveal, that worked perfectly. I suppose I misunderstood the module. The Profile dealie is the one I ''really'' want to use, though! If anyone has insight on how to work it, I would be grateful. Thanks! --[[User:Anfini|Anfini]] 19:24, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

== Tile Edit Tile ID List ==

Further explorations with Tweak leave me convinced we're missing another memory location that holds each block's type. Sandy clay Wall in one area doesn't match up with the data I gathered for my table of IDs, and there isn't enough data to be customized in Tile Edit to account for all the possibilities of ores and gems. Unfortunately I'm not knowledgable enough, nor am I patient enough, to find this memory location. →[[User:Valarnin|Valarnin]] 19:37, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

: Tile composition and gem type are special cases that are not held in tile data, and they have not been completely understood. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:58, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

:: Actually Gems and ore are understood. They are considered Events (from the memory hack page terms) and are flagged by a bitmap. The code sample I posted above, to add in finding only deposits of ore to Reveal, uses another 16x16 array to specify quickly that an event is taking place in that tile--then checks the bitmaps for what kind of ore (gem/ore/whatever) goes there. The events use the global tile ids which it gets from the raw files (and is in the order read in from those raw files). Using events you can add any type of deposit to the tile area (add sand to obsidian). When I was looking into the TileIDs I came to the conclusion that the IDs are in a pattern and the type of rock/soil is dependent on the biome set for that tile. IDs X -> Y for example will always be smooth walls, just of main biome material. What designates the Biome is probably another one of the 16x16 blocks of data--I just got on a side track and never figured out which one for sure. To test/confirm this, try finding a value that changes a stone type to a soil type then give that same soil TileID to a different kind of stone on another layer--it should turn into a soil type as well, but most likely not the same kind as before. Doing that on the first 2 layers of the map will make it easier since it usually has both rock and soil from the same biome. I started documenting this on my user page. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 20:34, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

::: I'm not sure why you wrote that blurb instead of linking to my page on it. I know the gem stuff is known, I should have been more clear, I meant the composition/type regional layer muckery. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:51, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

::::Sorry 'bout that. Which page are you talking about? There are so many, that when I was looking for info I really didn't know where to look for valid info. I wrote the blurb because he was talking about gems and ore specifically, and I guess I misunderstood your response. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 21:34, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

::::: [[User:Rick/Memory_research#Mineral_Event]] —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:01, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

:::::: OK, great, I wasn't sure if there was a newer one made. Now Valarnin has a link and a short explanation to go with it. So now he may be inspired to continue having fun digging in the memory :) --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 00:38, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

::::::: I'm not sure I understand exactly what's going on there. Is the vector a pointer to the mineral event's location? It would be so much easier if this was mapped out in Tile Edit. Speaking of Tile Edit, is the source available? I may be able to modify it to show the extra info. →[[User:Valarnin|Valarnin]] 13:37, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

::::::: Okay, I built Corc's modification to Reveal and learned a bit from that, but I have no example of a GUI and I'm a C++ programmer, not a C# programmer. I need an example of a GUI. →[[User:Valarnin|Valarnin]] 14:11, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

:::::::: I was trying to do something similar myself. Just in case you didn't see it, here is a link to Rick's Dev discussion ([[User_Talk:Rick/Tweak/Development]]) which might be a better place to talk about all this. What I did was just go through the c# gui sample and copy and paste stuff in while reading about what does what. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 14:26, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

== New Versions ==
Any Idea when we will have an update for the most recent versions? What is needed? What do us Noobs do to get it to work?--[[User:ERoberts|ERoberts]] 13:58, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

: I'm currently busy "in real life" with work so I can't tend to Tweak for the latest version of DF just yet. Aside from minor bugs with Tweak modules (such as the freezing bug with Tile Edit) there is no need for an update other than providing Tweak with data for the version you want to use it with. You can probably find the information needed for Tweak's XML files for the new version on Jifodus's user page. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 05:20, 18 July 2008 (EDT)

:: Sorry its been a while since I've done this, do I still just put that info in a memory.ini file?

::: I've got something to do today, but if no one has done it yet, I'll try to get something available later tonight for people. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 11:42, 18 July 2008 (EDT)

:::: You get the hash for the newest version, open up versions.xml, and add a new line such as this:
<version name="0.27.176.39c" hash="8f8cf06b1cd5ea102881a7cced767d4f" />
:::: Then, you copy the newest version's folder you have in the versions folder and rename it to the newest version. Finally, you change the data in each xml file to match Jifodus's user page. I've uploaded the newest versions and the versions.xml file for 39b and 39c here:
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=309
:::: However, I couldn't get anything to do with creatures to work. I couldn't seem to find a value to put in for race_vector from Jifodus's page. Corc, if you happen to know, tell me and I'll update the file.

::::: Sorry to drop the ball. I don't think I could do much more than what was done already without spending a lot of time I don't have. Very grateful to whoever set that up (post your sig next time :P) --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 00:32, 20 July 2008 (EDT)

:::::: T'was me. I was a bit tired when I posted that. You could have checked the uploader on DFFD too. →[[User:Valarnin|Valarnin]] 02:47, 20 July 2008 (EDT)

::::::: Any chance of getting compatibility with 39e? --[[User:Deekin|Deekin]] 15:44, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

:Looks like Deekin beat me to the punch. Ditto on the 39e request. :) --Mozleron 12:46, 1 August 2008 (PDT)
:: Fix for 39e is here (hash included)EDIT: Only address lookup works: http://www.geocities.com/jifodus/tables/dwarvis/v0.28.181.39e.core.xml --[[User:Aluminus|Aluminus]] 11:12, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

If someone who knows how has the time, could you please add a section explaining how to get the hash for the new version? That way we can update this to work with new versions faster. [[User:Dangerous Beans|Dangerous Beans]] 01:54, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

Utility Talk:Tweak

2008-08-04T15:12:34Z

Aluminus: Added support for 39e

== Suggested Addition(s) ==

How hard would it be to adapt [http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Utilities#Regional_Prospector Regional Prospector] [http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/User_talk:0x517A5D#Seekret_Projekt 1] [http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/User:0x517A5D#Seekret_Projekt 2] to this application? 
From what I've seen of your newest tool, it looks like it should become the standard for future 'tweaks' :p 
Thanks tons for your contributions to the cause! --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 19:41, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

Oh, and one other idea...
Perhaps a small readme/guide for each of the tools? 
Something like those on the Utilities page would be fine. 

: It could probably be easily ported but I'm not sure I want to take someone elses work so quickly for Tweak. I am working on that kind of a list (see the Tile Edit link on the core modules list). —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:49, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

::List? RP doesn't make lists that I know of. And I know TileEdit can create magma/lava (which one is it btw? lava I'm guessing, since I don't think it can create a replenishing pipe in it's current form.) but unless I really get desperate, I'm not going to make a huge pool of lava to tap for various oddities. (i.e. traps/constructions) TileEdit's great for occasionally making a single tile of the stuff when it'd otherwise be a pain to get the liquid to the desired point, or for replenishing an already small source. Unless you're planning on making TileEdit capable of modifying regional tiles, (or alternatively, working like a designation for many tiles at once...) I don't see how it could relate to what RP does. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 17:31, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

:::As far as I can tell, the list in question is a list of readmes/guides like those on the Utilities page.
:::Magma = lava in an underground square. Lava = magma in an aboveground square. They are identical in all but name. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 19:52, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

::::Is there an as yet unidentified flag that causes replenishment? --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 00:15, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

:::By 'list' I meant looking up what mineral types, etc, are in the current map. The module is called 'Survey', for obvious reasons. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 00:39, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

::::Hmm.. well, unless you plan on doing that at an embark level, (as opposed to the in-fort level it sounds like,) it still won't be duplicating any effects that RP currently does. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 00:15, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

::::: I don't intend to duplicate the features of it. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 01:04, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

== Help for the Noob(s) ==

Just downloaded the tweaker after some confusion, for the sake of healing the sole broker of my fort so he can get up and trade smartly enough to save my fort (to be filled with lava, but that's beside the point). Once I started it on up, all the modules but the address lookup were red, and the lookup only turns up <address name="starting_dwarf_count" value="0x00f77927"'.

I'm not entirely sure where to go from here... Any guide forthcoming?

: Red modules mean they are incompatible, I'm going to assume you are running on .38b, the latest is .38c, which Tweak has full support for. I did not bother to provide full support for .38b. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 05:34, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

== Error report ==

For some reason, the latest version (1.2.0.1) crashes whenever I try to run it. This is with or without DF running. Version 1.1.0.0 on the other hand worked fine for me, and still does. This is the debugging info returned for the crash in 1.2.0.1:
An unhandled exception of type 'System.IO.FileNotFoundException' occurred in Gibbed.DwarfFortress.Tweak.exe

Additional information: Could not load file or assembly
'System.Core, Version=3.5.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089'
or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.
This is with it directly extracted from the zip with proper folder structure, no changes made. I've also tried moving it out to a root folder on the drive in case the long path was confusing it with no success. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 01:04, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

: Sounds like you don't have .NET 3.5 installed. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 01:53, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

:: Did version 1.1.0.0 not require it? That version has been working fine, and I could have sworn I had to install the .NET 3.5 Framework to get it working.
:: However, whatever the case, I've just (re?)installed the 3.5 framework and that does indeed seem to have taken care of it. Thanks. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 02:38, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

::: I wasn't using any features of 3.5 yet -- which changed with 1.2.0.0. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 03:40, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

Found an error in the adjust profile module, happens when I click the "reset profile" button when "reset/read/write all" is checked.
System.ArgumentException: 'child' is not a child control of this parent.
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlCollection.GetChildIndex(Control child, Boolean throwException)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlCollection.GetChildIndex(Control child)
at Rinn.DwarfFortress.Tools.AdjustProfile.Configuration.textBox_TextChanged(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnTextChanged(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.TextBoxBase.OnTextChanged(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.set_Text(String value)
at System.Windows.Forms.TextBoxBase.set_Text(String value)
at System.Windows.Forms.TextBox.set_Text(String value)
at Rinn.DwarfFortress.Tools.AdjustProfile.Configuration.buttonReset_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
[[User:Cheapweed|Cheapweed]] 18:01, 12 April 2008 (EDT)

: Please report that [[User_talk:Rinn/AdjustProfile|on Rinn's AdjustProfile talk page]] —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:33, 12 April 2008 (EDT)

== NET 3.5 Compatability ==
Just a quick FYI: Those of us on 2000 cannot (as far as I've been able to determine) install .NET 3.5, which makes it impossible to use the latest version of Tweak. Keeping the 1.1 version online maintains availability of this invaluable tool to those of us who refuse to be infected with the XP virus. —[[User:Rochndil|Rochndil]] 14:49, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

: While I do use .NET 3.5 features, I will see if I can move to .NET 2.0 (or make a 2.0 compatible version). —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:58, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

: Or leave it. Seeing as its an 8 year old Operating system that you can't buy any more. More to the point if you are running DF your computer is more than adequate for running Windows XP. --[[User:Gorfob|Gorfob]] 19:00, 14 July 2008 (EDT)

== Blue modules ==
I just installed Tweak for the first time and I seem to have a problem. The buttons beside all the modules are blue, not green like in the picture, and the modules don't appear to do anything. I am running DF version 0.27.176.38c and Tweak version 1.2.0.0. I tied to update to version 1.2.0.1 but it still shows as the old version.

: If your Tile Edit is 1.1, not 1.0, you have 1.2.0.1. As for blue modules, you need to 'Select Process' before you can use anything. There is an option to automatically select a process on startup. Once you do this, modules will either turn red or green as like before. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:58, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

== Windows Installer 3.1 ==

It says I need Windows Installer 3.1. Help? --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 19:12, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

:Tweak does, or the .NET 3.5 install does? —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:58, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

::Sorry. .NET 3.5 install does. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 11:41, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

:::What operating system are you using? [http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=889482fc-5f56-4a38-b838-de776fd4138c&displaylang=en Windows Installer 3.1 Redistributable] —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 12:16, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

::::Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack 2.
::::Out of curiosity, what does that 3.1 installer do? --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 15:55, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

:::::It's for MSI installers I would assume. Though I'm not sure how you don't have the Windows Installer 3.1 on XP. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:49, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

== Freezing Tile Edit ==

For some reason, whenever I edit a tile using the Tile Edit programme, the next dwarf to step on the tile freezes to death (as will the many dwarves who come to loot the corpse). In the tile edit window, in the temperature section, it shows 0 in the first box (always) and another number of around 12000 in the second. The values by themselves give no indication as to the temperature, and even when I leave them alone, simply changing the tile will result in it becoming a freezing tile of death.
I have no idea if anyone else is experiencing this with tile edit, or whether I'm doing something horribly wrong.
{{unsigned|Maw3193}}

:I get this whenever I try to add water to a square. The water freezes into a block of absolute-zero ice, and freezes to death anybody who steps on it. It doesn't happen when I add magma, or change magma depth. The title bar says version 1.2.0.0, but TileEdit is 1.1 so I guess it's actually 1.2.0.1 (see above) [[User:Anydwarf|Anydwarf]] 12:56, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
::Tile Edit is broken like this. You need to manually set a temperature for EVERY tile you edit. Rick, fix it! >8( --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMario]] 15:44, 3 May 2008 (EDT)
::Also, as an addendum, the top temperature is the NEW temperature for the tile, the bottom temperature is the CURRENT temperature. --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMario]] 15:45, 3 May 2008 (EDT)
::It's not just absolute-zero. According to the Dwarf Fortress temperature scale, it's over nine thousand degrees below absolute-zero :) – [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Maw3193|Maw3193]]

:::Before editing any of the tile, press Reset first, it should fill the first temperature in for you. --[[User:SP2|SP2]] 19:20, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

::::Still doesn't work for me, I've tried all of this. I've set the temperature about five different times.. still the freezing tile of DOOM. --[[User:Jaxstrife|Jaxstrife]] 20:51, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

:::::I've identified the bug and it will be fixed in the next release. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 08:16, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

== Developer page ==

I'm interested in making a module for Tweak, will there be more info soon about contributing to it?
(if there is a page I couldn't find that talks about it, feel free to let me know :)
--[[User:Corc|Corc]]

: There hasn't really been any demand for it, but now that there is I'll fill out some info for you. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 01:33, 27 April 2008 (EDT)

:: [[User:Rick/Tweak/Development|I've added some preliminary information to the development page]]. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 17:41, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

How easy would it be to get started with writing a module? I assume Tweak handles the memory editing, but does it hand the module a bunch of bytes, or a fully parsed structure? I'd be interested in at least trying to write up a module.. Maybe you could just post the source for Heal or one of the other simple modules. [[User:Anydwarf|Anydwarf]] 18:57, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

I would just like to add my vote for a .NET 2.0 version since 3+ causes severe problems on my system trying to connect to M$ all the time :P

:I downloaded 3.5 and even got the express versions of Visual Studio to play with. I believe there is an option to "check" when you install that will stop it from contacting MS--I was asked a few times.
:--[[User:Corc|Corc]] 23:57, 28 April 2008 (EDT)

: Tweak's memory access doesn't deal with structures, but does allow for easy reading of common data types (and raw memory, if that's your deal). Reading structures may come in the future, though. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 17:41, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

== Adjust Start: Less Than Seven Dwarves Crashes Game Upon Embarking ==

Crash replicated on two different computers both running windows XP both using .38c version of DF. Different parameter set worlds and different local areas still results in crash, as does both embarking carefully and not carefully. When it crashes I get an error message from windows saying that "dwarffort.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close." I have tested this for 1, 4, and 6 dwarves with the game crashing, and found that with 10 dwarves it did not crash.

== Reveal ==

(Debated about putting this here or on your sample code discussion.) To test out making a new module (very easy btw, awesome) I modified reveal to just reveal interesting stuff like ore and gems. Instead of releasing a whole new (very similar and 99% your code) module maybe you could add a quick if statement/popup that people could check when they run it? Basically what I did was inside the nested for loops I added in getting the "type" data and if the type was for an event, <code>B8 01</code>, then I'd let it do your unhide bit.

<pre>
memory.Read(block + designation, ref data);
memory.Read(block + typeoffset, ref types); // added types, half the size of data, (256 * 2)
for (int i = 0; i < 16 * 16; i++)
{
byte[] temp = BitConverter.GetBytes(BitConverter.ToInt16(types, i * 2)); // actual type
if (temp[0] == 184) // I found that 0xB8 is all that is needed to check
{
byte[] newdata = BitConverter.GetBytes(BitConverter.ToUInt32(data, i * 4) & ~0x200);
data[(i * 4) + 0] = newdata[0];
data[(i * 4) + 1] = newdata[1];
data[(i * 4) + 2] = newdata[2];
data[(i * 4) + 3] = newdata[3];
}
}
</pre>

This unhides only Gems, Ore, "Special" Stone like Orthocast, adamantine and any other out of the ordinary biome stone.

I thought about making a crazy convoluted module that would scan the map for types of events and let the user enable the ones they wanted unhidden and then unhide them. But, after going into the event list and finding event IDs (I've got a complete list now) I found it to be too crazy... actually as I typed that I figured out how I could do it with about a forth of what I had coded earlier.
--[[User:Corc|Corc]] 04:04, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

== .NET install freeze? ==

Does .NET ever finish installing? As I write this it's been sitting with a full progress bar for 35 minutes, and took an inordinate amount of time to even get there. (And the bootstrap downloader was completely unusable, kept losing progress.) 
As far as I can tell, it's not even spinning the HDD... though it went through long periods of that before, too. 
Addendum: Rebooting on its own didn't help, but rebooting and aggressively killing running processes down to the bare-bones did... finally.– [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Shurhaian|Shurhaian]]

:That's some highly unusual behavior, and I would recommend a through virus and adware scan using atleast two versions of each. 
:For Viruses, [http://housecall.trendmicro.com/ Trend Micro] has a good online scanner, and [http://free.grisoft.com/ AVG] is a good offline scanner. 
:For Adware, [http://www.safer-networking.org/en/spybotsd/index.html Spybot S&D] is just about as good as it gets, and [http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx Microsoft] has a semi-decent one as well. 
:All of these are free. Hope this helps! If not, *could be* some core OS files have been damaged somehow, and *may* require a re-install. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 21:40, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

== Another on the 3.5 bug list ==

Allright; I have .net Framework 3.5 installed and its giving me the same error a guy midway up had;
the.......... IO.notfound thing

Okay scratch that i unzipped tweak again and its running fine.
it seems tweak doesnt like XP.

Your program has good tastes sir.

== Problem not otherwise found on here. ==
When trying to select a process, I get this error. Net framework 3.5 is installed.
<pre>
************** Exception Text **************
System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. ---> System.InvalidOperationException: This implementation is not part of the Windows Platform FIPS validated cryptographic algorithms.
at System.Security.Cryptography.MD5CryptoServiceProvider..ctor()
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeConstructor(Object[] args, SignatureStruct& signature, IntPtr declaringType)
at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeConstructor(Object[] args, SignatureStruct signature, RuntimeTypeHandle declaringType)
at System.Reflection.RuntimeConstructorInfo.Invoke(BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture)
at System.Security.Cryptography.CryptoConfig.CreateFromName(String name, Object[] args)
at System.Security.Cryptography.MD5.Create(String algName)
at System.Security.Cryptography.MD5.Create()
at Gibbed.DwarfFortress.Tweak.GameVersionLoader.GetProcessHash(Process process)
at Gibbed.DwarfFortress.Tweak.ModulePicker.onSelectProcess(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripButton.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
</pre>

:What version of windows are you running? —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:47, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

== .NET 3.5 errors: Tweak not Vista compatiale? ==

I have installed .NET 3.5 and tried to run Tweak on my computer. However, It instantly crashes. Is there anything else I should have installed? I am running windows Vista.

Thanks.

:Can you please paste the exact error, I cannot help with problems without knowing specifics. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:46, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

I Have the exact same problem, the error is the default vista error. i think this only happens with the newest version of tweak, as i used to beable to run it (though the tile editor never ran for me) —[[User:Corhen|Corhen]] 8:55, 15 July 2008

==Start Error==
Opening Tweak, the program crashes. There's no error message per se, it just doesn't open and give the default windows error message, and asks me if I want to send a report. Help?

:you need to install separately .NET 1.1 as well as .NET 2.0, .NET 3.5 does not install these previous versions....

Even with all versions of .NET that exist already installed, Tweak crashed on startup. I am using an up-to-date version of WinXP SP3. I hope that it causes no problems that I unfortunately have a German language version of XP. Proof of installed .NET versions: http://members.arstechnica.com/x/dio82/software.png

Error message:

EventType : clr20r3 P1 : gibbed.dwarffortress.tweak.exe P2 : 1.2.0.0
P3 : 47f19dc1 P4 : mscorlib P5 : 2.0.0.0 P6 : 471ebc5b P7 : 3404
P8 : 119 P9 : system.io.directorynotfound

Many thanks to potential fixes -[[User:Dio82|Dio82]] 08:36, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

I'd just like to note that I also have all three .NET versions downloaded and installed, and I still get the general Windows Vista error message (Tweak has stopped working, windows is searching for a solution... A program caused the program to stop working, windows will close the program). I've tried starting up Tweak before loading DF, during the DF title screen, and while playing a current fortress. I didn't, however, get the detailed error message described above. --[[User:Untelligent|Untelligent]] 21:57, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

:The above error message is part of the report that XP/Vista wants to send to Microsoft. Just click on details of the report when Vista prompts you about sending that report. --[[User:Dio82|Dio82]] 06:05, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

:It didn't prompt me for sending a report. --[[User:Untelligent|Untelligent]] 16:17, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

:This error is basically saying you did not extract Tweak correctly, the Tweak zip file contains several directories that Tweak needs to function correctly. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:46, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

==Reveal and Profile Edit Issue==

I've downloaded your program and managed to get a few features working, such as the one that allows you to change your starting dwarf number and points. The two modules I wanted to use most, however, Reveal and Profile Edit, don't seem to want to work at all, and as far as I can tell, I'm not getting a program error so much as... I don't know, a failure to recognize something. I'm not a programmer, you'll notice.

When attempting to use Reveal at the regional map, I get [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/Bitscape2000/RevealProblem.jpg this].

When attempting to use the Profile Editor at the "preparing carefully" screen, as it says, I get [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/Bitscape2000/ProfileProblem.jpg this], and if I click the OK button it says [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/Bitscape2000/ProfileProblem2.jpg this].

Apologies for the largish screenshots. Any idea what might help? --[[User:Anfini|Anfini]] 15:57, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

: The Reveal tool is only used while already embarked. Find a place to start your fortress, embark, and then run Reveal. And, keep in mind if you want to reveal all of the map you have to designate the bottom layer for digging completely then undesignated it BEFORE you run reveal--this will make DF load up the map for Reveal to find. As for the other errors, I'm not sure what is going on. Sorry. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 18:36, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

::Thanks for the help with Reveal, that worked perfectly. I suppose I misunderstood the module. The Profile dealie is the one I ''really'' want to use, though! If anyone has insight on how to work it, I would be grateful. Thanks! --[[User:Anfini|Anfini]] 19:24, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

== Tile Edit Tile ID List ==

Further explorations with Tweak leave me convinced we're missing another memory location that holds each block's type. Sandy clay Wall in one area doesn't match up with the data I gathered for my table of IDs, and there isn't enough data to be customized in Tile Edit to account for all the possibilities of ores and gems. Unfortunately I'm not knowledgable enough, nor am I patient enough, to find this memory location. →[[User:Valarnin|Valarnin]] 19:37, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

: Tile composition and gem type are special cases that are not held in tile data, and they have not been completely understood. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:58, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

:: Actually Gems and ore are understood. They are considered Events (from the memory hack page terms) and are flagged by a bitmap. The code sample I posted above, to add in finding only deposits of ore to Reveal, uses another 16x16 array to specify quickly that an event is taking place in that tile--then checks the bitmaps for what kind of ore (gem/ore/whatever) goes there. The events use the global tile ids which it gets from the raw files (and is in the order read in from those raw files). Using events you can add any type of deposit to the tile area (add sand to obsidian). When I was looking into the TileIDs I came to the conclusion that the IDs are in a pattern and the type of rock/soil is dependent on the biome set for that tile. IDs X -> Y for example will always be smooth walls, just of main biome material. What designates the Biome is probably another one of the 16x16 blocks of data--I just got on a side track and never figured out which one for sure. To test/confirm this, try finding a value that changes a stone type to a soil type then give that same soil TileID to a different kind of stone on another layer--it should turn into a soil type as well, but most likely not the same kind as before. Doing that on the first 2 layers of the map will make it easier since it usually has both rock and soil from the same biome. I started documenting this on my user page. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 20:34, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

::: I'm not sure why you wrote that blurb instead of linking to my page on it. I know the gem stuff is known, I should have been more clear, I meant the composition/type regional layer muckery. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:51, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

::::Sorry 'bout that. Which page are you talking about? There are so many, that when I was looking for info I really didn't know where to look for valid info. I wrote the blurb because he was talking about gems and ore specifically, and I guess I misunderstood your response. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 21:34, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

::::: [[User:Rick/Memory_research#Mineral_Event]] —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 22:01, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

:::::: OK, great, I wasn't sure if there was a newer one made. Now Valarnin has a link and a short explanation to go with it. So now he may be inspired to continue having fun digging in the memory :) --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 00:38, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

::::::: I'm not sure I understand exactly what's going on there. Is the vector a pointer to the mineral event's location? It would be so much easier if this was mapped out in Tile Edit. Speaking of Tile Edit, is the source available? I may be able to modify it to show the extra info. →[[User:Valarnin|Valarnin]] 13:37, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

::::::: Okay, I built Corc's modification to Reveal and learned a bit from that, but I have no example of a GUI and I'm a C++ programmer, not a C# programmer. I need an example of a GUI. →[[User:Valarnin|Valarnin]] 14:11, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

:::::::: I was trying to do something similar myself. Just in case you didn't see it, here is a link to Rick's Dev discussion ([[User_Talk:Rick/Tweak/Development]]) which might be a better place to talk about all this. What I did was just go through the c# gui sample and copy and paste stuff in while reading about what does what. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 14:26, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

== New Versions ==
Any Idea when we will have an update for the most recent versions? What is needed? What do us Noobs do to get it to work?--[[User:ERoberts|ERoberts]] 13:58, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

: I'm currently busy "in real life" with work so I can't tend to Tweak for the latest version of DF just yet. Aside from minor bugs with Tweak modules (such as the freezing bug with Tile Edit) there is no need for an update other than providing Tweak with data for the version you want to use it with. You can probably find the information needed for Tweak's XML files for the new version on Jifodus's user page. —[[User:Rick|Rick]] 05:20, 18 July 2008 (EDT)

:: Sorry its been a while since I've done this, do I still just put that info in a memory.ini file?

::: I've got something to do today, but if no one has done it yet, I'll try to get something available later tonight for people. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 11:42, 18 July 2008 (EDT)

:::: You get the hash for the newest version, open up versions.xml, and add a new line such as this:
<version name="0.27.176.39c" hash="8f8cf06b1cd5ea102881a7cced767d4f" />
:::: Then, you copy the newest version's folder you have in the versions folder and rename it to the newest version. Finally, you change the data in each xml file to match Jifodus's user page. I've uploaded the newest versions and the versions.xml file for 39b and 39c here:
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=309
:::: However, I couldn't get anything to do with creatures to work. I couldn't seem to find a value to put in for race_vector from Jifodus's page. Corc, if you happen to know, tell me and I'll update the file.

::::: Sorry to drop the ball. I don't think I could do much more than what was done already without spending a lot of time I don't have. Very grateful to whoever set that up (post your sig next time :P) --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 00:32, 20 July 2008 (EDT)

:::::: T'was me. I was a bit tired when I posted that. You could have checked the uploader on DFFD too. →[[User:Valarnin|Valarnin]] 02:47, 20 July 2008 (EDT)

::::::: Any chance of getting compatibility with 39e? --[[User:Deekin|Deekin]] 15:44, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

:Looks like Deekin beat me to the punch. Ditto on the 39e request. :) --Mozleron 12:46, 1 August 2008 (PDT)
:: Fix for 39e is here (hash included): http://www.geocities.com/jifodus/tables/dwarvis/v0.28.181.39e.core.xml --[[User:Aluminus|Aluminus]] 11:12, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

If someone who knows how has the time, could you please add a section explaining how to get the hash for the new version? That way we can update this to work with new versions faster. [[User:Dangerous Beans|Dangerous Beans]] 01:54, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

Category talk:Designations

2008-07-28T02:50:07Z

Aluminus: Updating to 39+

Most aren't very complicated, we should probably just merge all these articles on [[Designation]] (or maybe [[Designations]] or [[List of designations]]). I'll put it on my to-do, unless someone disagrees. --[[User:Turgid Bolk|Turgid Bolk]] 22:20, 4 November 2007 (EST)

== Updating to 39+ ==

We should add the new "Set Building/Item Properties" to the Designation list, because it include things like {{k|d}}ump, {{k|r}}eclaim and {{k|m}}elt that players will find very helpful.
Some mention of mass constructions should be on here somewhere as well. [[User:Aluminus|Aluminus]] 22:50, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Legends

2008-07-27T19:13:08Z

Aluminus: Updating to 39+

I don't think that the "Exporting Maps" section belongs here... --[[User:Penguinofhonor|Penguinofhonor]] 19:29, 27 November 2007 (EST)
:Woops, it does! Never mind then. --[[User:Penguinofhonor|Penguinofhonor]] 23:00, 13 December 2007 (EST)

Doesn't the {{K|p}}-exported map's size depend on tileset used?--[[User:Dorten|Dorten]] 23:40, 13 January 2008 (EST)

== Updating to 39+ ==

Legends needs a major upgrade or even a rewrite for 39a-e. Suggestions:
*Explanation of Historical Figure changes/improvements
*Explanation of the difference between Sites, Structures, Regions and Civilizations
*How-to view the Historical Maps
*Ages, Wars, Battles between civs
*Other changes
[[User:Aluminus|Aluminus]] 15:13, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Bauxite

2008-07-18T20:47:51Z

Aluminus: Question relating to aluminum

Doesn't Bauxite contain Aluminum Oxide? That means we should be able to somehow get Aluminum out of it. Unless the historical aspect of the game means that the dwarves do not have thhe technology to do high-temperature electrolysis. [[User:Aluminus|Aluminus]] 16:47, 18 July 2008 (EDT)

Bloodline:Girdertrampled/Chapter 3:

2008-06-14T02:45:35Z

Aluminus: Chapter three added

Chapter 3: In which an uninvited guest appears late to the party 
From the Bloodline game [[ Bloodline:Girdertrampled | Girdertrampled]]. 
[http://mkv25.net/dfma/map-2909-girdertrampled-girdertrampled Map] 
Below are excerpts from the diary of 'Aluminus' Zasdarod the Consultant, who arrived at Gridertrampled in 1053.
==1st Granite, 1053==
As I crest the hill, I can see the valley and the river. Looks like the right place. I’ve been commissioned as a consultant to come here from ‘Swordrose’. Apparently these dwarfs need my help. A ditch bars entry into the fortress which I can see is buried several furlongs into the mountain. I cross the bridge, I pass the trade depot. Empty. Not a good sign. Then it’s down four flights of stairs (four!) to meet with the dwarfs. It’s time to turn this place around.
==2nd Granite, 1053==
I forgot to mention yesterday the magnetite I saw sticking out of the mountain north of the fortress. Look like it’s worth investigating. 
[[Image:Girdertrampled_1053_magnetite.PNG]]
==11th Granite, 1053==
I wonder whose idea it was to put those stairs there. The dwarfs avoid me when I mention it. 
[[Image:Girdertrampled_1053_mysterystairs.PNG]]
==12th Granite, 1053==
Platinum! 
[[Image:Girdertrampled_1053_platinum.PNG]]
==21st Granite, 1053==
The Elves have arrived and the cats are chasing vermin. Finally, one of these two groups is good for something it seems. The Dungeon Master has arrived. 
[[Image:Girdertrampled_1053_cats.PNG]]
==1st Slate, 1053==
I have begun training war dogs in anticipation of combat. The kobolds are bound to show up soon. The hydro power engineering project has stalled due to a lack of water pressure from the tiny brook. I am investigating this with the mechanics.
==14th Slate, 1053==
This water project boggles me. The floodgate that is preventing the river from flooding the basement cannot be reached by any dwarf, so it can be connected to a lever. That means that the cistern cannot be filled because the floodgate is stuck closed. The bridge works fine, thankfully. Also, our population has almost doubled with the recent immigration wave.
==14th Felsite, 1053==
A dwarf has gone fey and we are without tanned hides. Armok have mercy.
==19th Hematite, 1053==
The humans brought two wagons. They also helped to kill a few goblins in the area. Standard Trade agreement. 
[[Image:Girdertrampled_1053_goblin.PNG]]
==25th Malachite, 1053==
Even though a dwarf was killed by one of the goblins, the rest of the dwarfs are ecstatic because of our legendary dinging room. The stock records are being updated, and the work orders are flowing smoothly, though the layout of the fortress is seriously hurting efficiency.
==2nd Galena, 1053==
And the fortress has become a Village! This should attract more immigrants. The dwarfs are working full time smelting ore and making rock crafts. At last the waterfall has engaged. I checked the water levels on all floors and it appears that it is working smoothly. The dwarfs are holding a party in honour of the new exhibit; never mind the random goblin corpse in the middle of the room. 
[[Image:Girdertrampled_1053_waterfall.PNG]]
==16th Limestone, 1053==
The dwarven caravan brought five wagons. This is a sign that Girdertrampled is looking more attractive as a trading post. This particular engraving could be a bad sign. 
[[Image:Girdertrampled_1053_demon_eng.PNG]]
I’ve set up a room for milling plants. A windmill above the gears supplies power.
==17th Sandstone, 1053==
Girdertrampled is officially suffering from a catsplosion. A few back of the envelope calculations show the number of cats increasing exponentially. I order the detainment of all stray cats. The Dungeon Master is pleased.
==1st Moonstone, 1053==
These hunting tactics do not look very kosher. 
[[Image:Girdertrampled_1053_poorhorse.PNG]]
==27th Moonstone, 1053==
A HYDRA! 
[[Image:Girdertrampled_1053_hydra.PNG]] A limestone crown has jammed the door open! [[Image:Girdertrampled_1053_crashtheparty.PNG]]
Holy Hell a snatcher inside the fortress! 
[[Image:Girdertrampled_1053_snatcherinside.PNG]] 
I order a dwarf to pull the drawbridge lever immediately.
==13th Obsidian, 1053==
Our liaison from the Mountainhomes is stuck inside here with us. The administrator was arranging a trade deal when the hydra arrived. He seems melancholy…wait… don’t go outside! 
[[Image:Girdertrampled_1053_diplo_stymie.PNG]]
==24th Obsidian, 1053==
Now the dwarfs are going fey. 
[[Image:Girdertrampled_1053_mood.PNG]]

I can still hear the hydra growling outside. I walk up to a random dwarf. I hand him my contract. 
“I’m officially out of the consulting business” I say. 
“I don’t blame you” he replies. 

I return to my room, and hope for the best.
-‘Aluminus’ Zasdarod, Consultant

File:Girdertrampled 1053 waterfall.PNG

2008-06-14T02:18:49Z

Aluminus: The dwarfs like it, so I guess we should keep this running.

The dwarfs like it, so I guess we should keep this running.

File:Girdertrampled 1053 snatcherinside.PNG

2008-06-14T02:17:52Z

Aluminus: How'd he get in here?

How'd he get in here?

File:Girdertrampled 1053 poorhorse.PNG

2008-06-14T02:17:30Z

Aluminus: Ewww.

Ewww.

File:Girdertrampled 1053 platinum.PNG

2008-06-14T02:17:15Z

Aluminus: Struck it even richer.

Struck it even richer.

File:Girdertrampled 1053 mysterystairs.PNG

2008-06-14T02:16:59Z

Aluminus: In case they're important, I'll just leave them be.

In case they're important, I'll just leave them be.

File:Girdertrampled 1053 mood.PNG

2008-06-14T02:16:30Z

Aluminus: Things just keep getting worse.

Things just keep getting worse.

File:Girdertrampled 1053 magnetite.PNG

2008-06-14T02:16:07Z

Aluminus: Struck it rich.

Struck it rich.

File:Girdertrampled 1053 hydra.PNG

2008-06-14T02:15:49Z

Aluminus: A vile force of... wait a minute.

A vile force of... wait a minute.

File:Girdertrampled 1053 hum trade.PNG

2008-06-14T02:15:22Z

Aluminus: Make this stuff. It is worth a lot to them.

Make this stuff. It is worth a lot to them.

File:Girdertrampled 1053 goblin.PNG

2008-06-14T02:14:48Z

Aluminus: Saved by the humans.

Saved by the humans.

File:Girdertrampled 1053 diplo stymie.PNG

2008-06-14T02:14:20Z

Aluminus: Poor guy.

Poor guy.

File:Girdertrampled 1053 demon eng.PNG

2008-06-14T02:14:01Z

Aluminus: I prefer not to ask the dwarfs about this one.

I prefer not to ask the dwarfs about this one.

File:Girdertrampled 1053 crashtheparty.PNG

2008-06-14T02:13:21Z

Aluminus: The Hydra approacheth.

The Hydra approacheth.

File:Girdertrampled 1053 cats.PNG

2008-06-14T02:12:33Z

Aluminus: The cats are chasing vermin.

The cats are chasing vermin.

Bloodline:Girdertrampled

2008-06-14T02:01:26Z

Aluminus: /* Chapters */ Note for chapter 2

[[Category:Bloodline Games|Girdertrampled]]
The Tale of Girdertrampled is one of mystery, intrigue and... well we only just started so stay tuned!

== About The Game ==
See the [http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=19469&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a Dwarf Fortress thread on the xkcd forums]
The idea of starting a succession game was thrown around for a while. One poster suggested a community fortress, where every player starts off on the same map at the same location, and then designs their own individual fortresses. However, [[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]] started this bloodline game and offered other players to join. So begins the tale of Girdertrampled.
=== Succession Players ===
#Schmendreck
#Xaddak
#Aluminus
#berengal
#annals
#Azrael001
#AKAnotu

== Chapters ==
[[Bloodline:Girdertrampled/Introduction: Strike The Earth|Introduction: Strike The Earth]] In which dwarfs embark on a treacherous journey ([[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]]) 
[[Bloodline:Girdertrampled/Chapter 1: New Beginnings|Chapter 1: New Beginnings]] In which dwarfs make a home for themselves([[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]]) 
[[Bloodline:Girdertrampled/Chapter 2:|Chapter 2:]] In which things are organized... hopefully ([[User:Xaddak|Xaddak]]) 
[[Bloodline:Girdertrampled/Chapter 3:|Chapter 3:]] In which an uninvited guest appears late to the party ([[User:Aluminus|Aluminus]]) 
[[Bloodline:Girdertrampled/Chapter 4:|Chapter 4:]] ([[User:berengal|berengal]]) 
[[Bloodline:Girdertrampled/Chapter 5:|Chapter 5:]] ([[User:annals|annals]]) 
[[Bloodline:Girdertrampled/Chapter 6:|Chapter 6:]] ([[User:Azrael001|Azrael001]]) 
[[Bloodline:Girdertrampled/Chapter 7:|Chapter 7:]] ([[User:AKAnotu|AKAnotu]])

User talk:Aluminus

2008-06-09T17:54:48Z

Aluminus: Replacing page with 'No worries. Just try to use the preview button in the future. --Savok 08:45, 9 June 2008 (EDT)'

[[Bloodline_Talk:Girdertrampled|No worries]]. Just try to use the preview button in the future. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 08:45, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Bloodline:Girdertrampled/Introduction: Strike The Earth

2008-06-09T03:51:26Z

Aluminus:

== The Tale of Girdertrampled: Introduction: Strike The Earth ==
''From the journals of 'Schmendreck' Avuzkekim''
=== 20 Obsidian 1050 ===
I have been recently informed by our fortress' nobles that I am to be the leader of a new fortress.

===23 Obsidian 1050===
Tomorrow I will meet the fellow dwarfs who will accompany my on this endeavor.

===24 Obsidian 1050===
I met my fellow dwarfs.

We are doomed.

They are among the laziest and most slovenly of any dwarfs I have yet encountered. There is another miner, a mason, two planters who double as cook and brewer, a carpenter, and finally one dwarf who seemed to specialize in as many areas as he could (building designer, stonecrafter, mechanic, judge of intent.)

===25 Obsidian 1050===
I have been given a map of the location which we are supposed to settle.
[[Image:Girdertrampled_embark.png]]

At least its not in the desert.
===26 Obsidian 1050===
We embark.

===1 Granite 1051===
We arrive

Of course the first thing every one wants to do is stand on the edge of a cliff.
[[Image:Girdertrampled_embark_cliff.png]]
Goddammit.

Bloodline Talk:Girdertrampled/Introduction: Strike The Earth

2008-06-09T03:47:29Z

Aluminus: New page: Schmendreck I hope you don't mind I did the introduction for you. Do you like the format? ~~~~

Schmendreck I hope you don't mind I did the introduction for you. Do you like the format? [[User:Aluminus|Aluminus]] 23:47, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Bloodline:Girdertrampled/Introduction: Strike The Earth

2008-06-09T03:46:38Z

Aluminus:

== The Tale of Girdertrampled ==
=== Introduction: Strike The Earth ===
''From the journals of 'Schmendreck' Avuzkekim''
==== 20 Obsidian 1050 ====
I have been recently informed by our fortress' nobles that I am to be the leader of a new fortress.

====23 Obsidian 1050====
Tomorrow I will meet the fellow dwarfs who will accompany my on this endeavor.

====24 Obsidian 1050====
I met my fellow dwarfs.

We are doomed.

They are among the laziest and most slovenly of any dwarfs I have yet encountered. There is another miner, a mason, two planters who double as cook and brewer, a carpenter, and finally one dwarf who seemed to specialize in as many areas as he could (building designer, stonecrafter, mechanic, judge of intent.)

====25 Obsidian 1050====
I have been given a map of the location which we are supposed to settle.
[[Image:Girdertrampled_embark.png]]

At least its not in the desert.

====26 Obsidian 1050====
We embark.

====1 Granite 1051====
We arrive

Of course the first thing every one wants to do is stand on the edge of a cliff.
[[Image:Girdertrampled_embark_cliff.png]]
Goddammit.

File:Girdertrampled embark cliff.png

2008-06-09T03:45:53Z

Aluminus: Our intrepid adventurers find themselves between a rock and a... cliff.

Our intrepid adventurers find themselves between a rock and a... cliff.

Bloodline:Girdertrampled/Introduction: Strike The Earth

2008-06-09T03:44:43Z

Aluminus: New page: == The Tale of Girdertrampled == === Introduction: Strike The Earth === ''From the journals of 'Schmendreck' Avuzkekim'' ==== 20 Obsidian 1050 ==== I have been recently informed by our fo...

User:Aluminus

2008-06-09T03:38:46Z

Aluminus: New page: == Currently Playing == Bloodline:Girdertrampled

== Currently Playing ==
[[Bloodline:Girdertrampled]]

Bloodline Talk:Girdertrampled

2008-06-09T03:33:22Z

Aluminus:

Sorry for so many edits. I was testing out the wiki interface and I want the Girdertrampled page to look awesome.[[User:Aluminus|Aluminus]] 23:33, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Bloodline Talk:Girdertrampled

2008-06-09T03:33:10Z

Aluminus: New page: Sorry for so many edits. I was testing out the wiki interface and I want the Girdertrampled page to look awesome.

Sorry for so many edits. I was testing out the wiki interface and I want the Girdertrampled page to look awesome.

Bloodline:Girdertrampled

2008-06-08T23:48:27Z

Aluminus: /* Chapters */

[[Category:Bloodline Games|Girdertrampled]]
The Tale of Girdertrampled is one of mystery, intrigue and... well we only just started so stay tuned!

== About The Game ==
See the [http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=19469&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a Dwarf Fortress thread on the xkcd forums]
The idea of starting a succession game was thrown around for a while. One poster suggested a community fortress, where every player starts off on the same map at the same location, and then designs their own individual fortresses. However, [[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]] started this bloodline game and offered other players to join. So begins the tale of Girdertrampled.
=== Succession Players ===
#Schmendreck
#Xaddak
#Aluminus
#berengal
#annals
#Azrael001

== Chapters ==
[[Introduction: Strike The Earth]] In which dwarfs embark on a treacherous journey ([[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]]) 
[[Chapter 1: New Beginnings]] In which dwarfs make a home for themselves([[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]]) 
[[Chapter 2:]] In which dwarfs do some stuff that hasn't happened yet ([[User:Xaddak|Xaddak]]) 
[[Chapter 3:]] ditto ([[User:Aluminus|Aluminus]]) 
[[Chapter 4:]] ([[User:berengal|berengal]]) 
[[Chapter 5:]] ([[User:annals|annals]]) 
[[Chapter 6:]] ([[User:Azrael001|Azrael001]])

Bloodline:Girdertrampled

2008-06-08T23:46:56Z

Aluminus: /* Chapters */

[[Category:Bloodline Games|Girdertrampled]]
The Tale of Girdertrampled is one of mystery, intrigue and... well we only just started so stay tuned!

== About The Game ==
See the [http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=19469&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a Dwarf Fortress thread on the xkcd forums]
The idea of starting a succession game was thrown around for a while. One poster suggested a community fortress, where every player starts off on the same map at the same location, and then designs their own individual fortresses. However, [[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]] started this bloodline game and offered other players to join. So begins the tale of Girdertrampled.
=== Succession Players ===
#Schmendreck
#Xaddak
#Aluminus
#berengal
#annals
#Azrael001

== Chapters ==
[[Introduction: Strike The Earth]] In which dwarfs embark on a treacherous journey ([[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]]) 
[[Chapter 1: New Beginnings]] In which dwarfs are made to haul ([[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]]) 
[[Chapter 2:]] In which dwarfs do some stuff that hasn't happened yet ([[User:Xaddak|Xaddak]]) 
[[Chapter 3:]] ditto ([[User:Aluminus|Aluminus]]) 
[[Chapter 4:]] ([[User:berengal|berengal]]) 
[[Chapter 5:]] ([[User:annals|annals]]) 
[[Chapter 6:]] ([[User:Azrael001|Azrael001]])

Bloodline:Girdertrampled

2008-06-08T23:45:03Z

Aluminus:

[[Category:Bloodline Games|Girdertrampled]]
The Tale of Girdertrampled is one of mystery, intrigue and... well we only just started so stay tuned!

== About The Game ==
See the [http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=19469&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a Dwarf Fortress thread on the xkcd forums]
The idea of starting a succession game was thrown around for a while. One poster suggested a community fortress, where every player starts off on the same map at the same location, and then designs their own individual fortresses. However, [[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]] started this bloodline game and offered other players to join. So begins the tale of Girdertrampled.
=== Succession Players ===
#Schmendreck
#Xaddak
#Aluminus
#berengal
#annals
#Azrael001

== Chapters ==
[[Introduction: Strike The Earth]] In which dwarfs embark on a treacherous journey ([[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]]) 
[[Chapter 1: New Beginnings]] ([[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]]) 
[[Chapter 2:]] In which dwarfs do some stuff that hasn't happened yet ([[User:Xaddak|Xaddak]]) 
[[Chapter 3:]] ditto ([[User:Aluminus|Aluminus]]) 
[[Chapter 4:]] ([[User:berengal|berengal]]) 
[[Chapter 5:]] ([[User:annals|annals]]) 
[[Chapter 6:]] ([[User:Azrael001|Azrael001]])

Bloodline:Girdertrampled

2008-06-08T23:44:41Z

Aluminus:

[[Category:Bloodline Games|Girdertrampled]]
[[Image:Girdertrampled_embark.png]]
The Tale of Girdertrampled is one of mystery, intrigue and... well we only just started so stay tuned!

== About The Game ==
See the [http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=19469&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a Dwarf Fortress thread on the xkcd forums]
The idea of starting a succession game was thrown around for a while. One poster suggested a community fortress, where every player starts off on the same map at the same location, and then designs their own individual fortresses. However, [[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]] started this bloodline game and offered other players to join. So begins the tale of Girdertrampled.
=== Succession Players ===
#Schmendreck
#Xaddak
#Aluminus
#berengal
#annals
#Azrael001

== Chapters ==
[[Introduction: Strike The Earth]] In which dwarfs embark on a treacherous journey ([[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]]) 
[[Chapter 1: New Beginnings]] ([[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]]) 
[[Chapter 2:]] In which dwarfs do some stuff that hasn't happened yet ([[User:Xaddak|Xaddak]]) 
[[Chapter 3:]] ditto ([[User:Aluminus|Aluminus]]) 
[[Chapter 4:]] ([[User:berengal|berengal]]) 
[[Chapter 5:]] ([[User:annals|annals]]) 
[[Chapter 6:]] ([[User:Azrael001|Azrael001]])

File:Girdertrampled embark.png

2008-06-08T23:42:54Z

Aluminus: This is what the embark screen of the xkcd Girdertrampled bloodline game looked like.

This is what the embark screen of the xkcd Girdertrampled bloodline game looked like.

Bloodline:Girdertrampled

2008-06-08T23:34:56Z

Aluminus: Bloodline:XKCD moved to Bloodline:Girdertrampled: The name of the fortress is not XKCD. The gmame page was created before the fortress actually had a name.

[[Category:Bloodline Games|Girdertrampled]]
The Tale of Girdertrampled is one of mystery, intrigue and... well we only just started so stay tuned!

== About The Game ==
See the [http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=19469&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a Dwarf Fortress thread on the xkcd forums]
The idea of starting a succession game was thrown around for a while. One poster suggested a community fortress, where every player starts off on the same map at the same location, and then designs their own individual fortresses. However, [[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]] started this bloodline game and offered other players to join. So begins the tale of Girdertrampled.
=== Succession Players ===
#Schmendreck
#Xaddak
#Aluminus
#berengal
#annals
#Azrael001

== Chapters ==
[[Introduction: Strike The Earth]] In which dwarfs embark on a treacherous journey ([[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]]) 
[[Chapter 1: New Beginnings]] In which dwarfs are made to haul ([[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]]) 
[[Chapter 2:]] In which dwarfs do some stuff that hasn't happened yet ([[User:Xaddak|Xaddak]]) 
[[Chapter 3:]] ditto ([[User:Aluminus|Aluminus]]) 
[[Chapter 4:]] ([[User:berengal|berengal]]) 
[[Chapter 5:]] ([[User:annals|annals]]) 
[[Chapter 6:]] ([[User:Azrael001|Azrael001]])

Bloodline:Girdertrampled

2008-06-08T23:31:07Z

Aluminus:

[[Category:Bloodline Games|Girdertrampled]]
The Tale of Girdertrampled is one of mystery, intrigue and... well we only just started so stay tuned!

== About The Game ==
See the [http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=19469&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a Dwarf Fortress thread on the xkcd forums]
The idea of starting a succession game was thrown around for a while. One poster suggested a community fortress, where every player starts off on the same map at the same location, and then designs their own individual fortresses. However, [[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]] started this bloodline game and offered other players to join. So begins the tale of Girdertrampled.
=== Succession Players ===
#Schmendreck
#Xaddak
#Aluminus
#berengal
#annals
#Azrael001

== Chapters ==
[[Introduction: Strike The Earth]] In which dwarfs embark on a treacherous journey ([[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]]) 
[[Chapter 1: New Beginnings]] In which dwarfs are made to haul ([[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]]) 
[[Chapter 2:]] In which dwarfs do some stuff that hasn't happened yet ([[User:Xaddak|Xaddak]]) 
[[Chapter 3:]] ditto ([[User:Aluminus|Aluminus]]) 
[[Chapter 4:]] ([[User:berengal|berengal]]) 
[[Chapter 5:]] ([[User:annals|annals]]) 
[[Chapter 6:]] ([[User:Azrael001|Azrael001]])

Bloodline:Girdertrampled

2008-06-08T23:18:01Z

Aluminus: /* Chapters */

[[Category:Bloodline Games|XKCD]]

=== Succession Players ===
#Schmendreck
#Xaddak
#Aluminus
#berengal
#annals
#Azrael001

== Chapters ==
[[Introduction: Strike The Earth]] In which dwarfs embark on a treacherous journey ([[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]]) 
[[Chapter 1: New Beginnings]] In which dwarfs are made to haul ([[User:Schmendreck|Schmendreck]]) 
[[Chapter 2:]] In which dwarfs do some stuff that hasn't happened yet ([[User:Xaddak|Xaddak]]) 
[[Chapter 3:]] ditto ([[User:Aluminus|Aluminus]]) 
[[Chapter 4:]] ([[User:berengal|berengal]]) 
[[Chapter 5:]] ([[User:annals|annals]]) 
[[Chapter 6:]] ([[User:Azrael001|Azrael001]])