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I'd have to agree on how the page is being stretched way too far, especially in the biomes. I should add that, while I'm not one to enforce how people should add new creatures, I'd like to keep only biome information in the biome catagory and so on with all catagories. I ask that everyone should stop adding creatures until we sort out how we want to display the information. '''Edit:''' Also, if this page shows too many catagories I'd say we cut out the (in order of least to greatest importance) General Child Name, Notes, and Description catagories. This page shouldn't include so much detail that individual creature pages are almost useless, and I'll admit to going overboard on how much information is presented. Right now it is a pain to add creatures. '''Edit2:''' After giving it some thought I think I've come up with what might work. My idea is that there would be multiple tables placed under headlines in the article describing the type of creatures listed (Civilized Races, Megabeasts, etc.). The tables would include four categories describing the symbol, the name, where the creature is found (not necessarily biome tags), and alignment. We should discuss this further in the [[Template:CreatureCurrent table head]] article and make changes there until we're satisfied. --[[User:DUMBELLS|dUMBELLS]] 05:44, 9 April 2010 (UTC) | I'd have to agree on how the page is being stretched way too far, especially in the biomes. I should add that, while I'm not one to enforce how people should add new creatures, I'd like to keep only biome information in the biome catagory and so on with all catagories. I ask that everyone should stop adding creatures until we sort out how we want to display the information. '''Edit:''' Also, if this page shows too many catagories I'd say we cut out the (in order of least to greatest importance) General Child Name, Notes, and Description catagories. This page shouldn't include so much detail that individual creature pages are almost useless, and I'll admit to going overboard on how much information is presented. Right now it is a pain to add creatures. '''Edit2:''' After giving it some thought I think I've come up with what might work. My idea is that there would be multiple tables placed under headlines in the article describing the type of creatures listed (Civilized Races, Megabeasts, etc.). The tables would include four categories describing the symbol, the name, where the creature is found (not necessarily biome tags), and alignment. We should discuss this further in the [[Template:CreatureCurrent table head]] article and make changes there until we're satisfied. --[[User:DUMBELLS|dUMBELLS]] 05:44, 9 April 2010 (UTC) | ||
− | :A key part of the value of a table is comparison. Right now, it's a jumble, with "'''Blacktip shark'''" next to "'''Blind cave ogre'''" - not the most useful. If we use the same header, but break up the listings into discrete | + | :A key part of the value of a table is comparison. Right now, it's a jumble, with "'''Blacktip shark'''" next to "'''Blind cave ogre'''" - not the most useful. If we use the same header, but break up the listings into discrete categories (taking a cue from the RAW's), the diff tables becomes much more organic and functional at that level - "Domestic Animals", "Fresh Water", "Salt Water", "Underground", "Temperate", "Tropical", "Tundra" - maybe a couple others, we have a something that is much more useful. A TOC directs readers to the sub-sections, and we're good. |
− | :As for columns within the table(s), we should ask ''"What does this page want to offer that the individual creature articles won't/can't?"'' And again, I see that as: "immediate side-by-side comparison" - so we should only include things that are key for comparison, namely symbol, whether it's a predator/aggressive or not, "size" (if we can find that), whether it's a food source or not (some few won't be butcherable?), pet/mod value, perhaps some specifics on biome/alignment within the larger table category - and a final column slot for important notes (i.e. only something critical to know/be aware of, like fire-breathing or [[ | + | :As for columns within the table(s), we should ask ''"What does this page want to offer that the individual creature articles won't/can't?"'' And again, I see that as: "immediate side-by-side comparison" - so we should only include things that are key for comparison, namely symbol, whether it's a predator/aggressive or not, "size" (if we can find that), whether it's a food source or not (some few won't be butcherable?), pet/mod value, perhaps some specifics on biome/alignment within the larger table category - and a final column slot for important notes (i.e. only something critical to know/be aware of, like fire-breathing or [[DF2010:Syndrome|syndrome]]-causing or webbing, etc) - and that's it. If the Reader wants a description, if they want specifics, each listing will be a link to the article.--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 06:44, 9 April 2010 (UTC) |
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==How scary is a creature?== | ==How scary is a creature?== | ||
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(This is all for an [[elk bird]], btw). Anyone make starting to make heads/tails of any of this yet?--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 21:25, 7 April 2010 (UTC) | (This is all for an [[elk bird]], btw). Anyone make starting to make heads/tails of any of this yet?--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 21:25, 7 April 2010 (UTC) | ||
− | Take a look at the annotated dwarf code [[ | + | Take a look at the annotated dwarf code [[DF2010:Annotated Dwarf Code|here]], anything that is not mentioned I have no clue about. To answer your question about size, the different body sizes mean how large the creature is at different times in it's life.--[[User:DUMBELLS|dUMBELLS]] 22:43, 7 April 2010 (UTC) |
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