User talk:Birthright

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Refuse/Stockpile merge

Merging is fine, but you shouldn't leave out parts that are relevant. (In this case, you left out the note that using diagonals is an exploit.) -Edward 23:48, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Because i don't consider it one. And relevance?? Lots of disc. about what is an exploit in DF. Not much diff. if you put a doubledoor instead. Besides, we have the exploit page for that. But if it hurts you, add it. --Birthright 00:20, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

If necessary, we can make an article on speculation of what changes will be made to DF mechanics in the future. Even if we do, though, that article isn't refuse stockpile. VengefulDonut 16:52, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Then all the other references to exploits need to be removed as well, which is rather foolish, as it simply serves to screw up newbies when something they didn't think would change, suddenly does, because they'll no longer know that certain things that are possible in-game, aren't the way they're intended to be. -Edward 23:43, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Your argument is based on the premise that the predictions of future changes are generally accurate. I'm not willing to accept that assumption. I think the guesses are wrong at least as often as they are right.

Also, I don't see how assorted change guesses scattered throughout the wiki will do anything to prepare a newbie when a new version comes around. If you think this is a serious problem, we would be better off consolidating known changes into some sort of release notes page when a new version rolls out.

Ad hoc mixing of fact and opinion in the same article is poor style, so I think you are correct (even if you didn't intend it that way) that other exploit comments in articles should be removed. They could be replaced with a "see also: exploits" link at the bottom of the relevant section. VengefulDonut 13:27, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

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