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'''Trade good''' is a term frequently used to refer to items that are lightweight and only useful for {{L|trading}} until after the {{L|dwarven economy}} begins, when they will become wanted trinkets among some {{L|dwarves}}.  They include '''crafts''', '''goblets''', '''instruments''', '''toys''', '''large gems''', and '''totems''', some of which have several sub-types.  Once produced, all of the various types and sub-types of trade goods are identical except for their {{L|weight}}; rings and earrings are the lightest with a base weight of 1, but the heavier trade goods with a base weight of 10 are still much lighter than items such as {{L|furniture}} or most {{L|armor}}.  All types of trade goods are stored in {{L|finished goods}} stockpiles.
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'''Trade good''' is a term frequently used to refer to items that are lightweight and only useful for [[trading]] until after the [[dwarven economy]] begins, when they will become wanted trinkets among some [[dwarves]].  They include '''crafts''', '''goblets''', '''instruments''', '''toys''', '''large gems''', and '''totems''', some of which have several sub-types.  Once produced, all of the various types and sub-types of trade goods are identical except for their [[weight]]; rings and earrings are the lightest with a base weight of 1, but the heavier trade goods with a base weight of 10 are still much lighter than items such as [[furniture]] or most [[armor]].  All types of trade goods are stored in [[finished goods]] stockpiles.
  
 
There is no way to issue a job order for a specific subtype of a good with multiple subtypes.  If you have a mandate to make mini-forges, the best you can do is to order toys and hope for the best.
 
There is no way to issue a job order for a specific subtype of a good with multiple subtypes.  If you have a mandate to make mini-forges, the best you can do is to order toys and hope for the best.
  
Some types of trade goods can be produced in multiples.  It is possible to get up to three crafts from a single resource.  The chance of multiples is increased with more {{L|experience}} in the craftsdwarf skill.  Mugs will ''always'' be made in threes, so they are more productive in terms of value than other trade goods.
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Some types of trade goods can be produced in multiples.  It is possible to get up to three crafts from a single resource.  The chance of multiples is increased with more [[experience]] in the craftsdwarf skill.  Mugs will ''always'' be made in threes, so they are more productive in terms of value than other trade goods.
  
 
==Types of trade goods==
 
==Types of trade goods==
  
 
===Crafts===
 
===Crafts===
'''Crafts''' include '''idols''', '''rings''', '''earrings''', '''amulets''', '''bracelets''', '''scepters''', and '''crowns'''.  In {{L|Adventurer mode}}, some types of crafts (such as earrings) can be worn, but are still better used as deadly {{L|Thrower|projectiles}}.
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'''Crafts''' include '''idols''', '''rings''', '''earrings''', '''amulets''', '''bracelets''', '''scepters''', and '''crowns'''.  In [[Adventurer mode]], some types of crafts (such as earrings) can be worn, but are still better used as deadly [[Thrower|projectiles]].
  
 
===Goblets===
 
===Goblets===
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===Totems===
 
===Totems===
'''Totems''' have no subtypes.  They are made from {{L|skull}}s.
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'''Totems''' have no subtypes.  They are made from [[skull]]s.
  
 
===Large gems===
 
===Large gems===
'''Large gems''' have no subtypes.  It is not possible to issue a job order for large gems; instead, cutting any {{L|gem}} or raw {{L|glass}} has a chance to produce a large gem instead of ordinary cut gems.  Gems also have a chance to be cut into crafts this way, but raw glass does not.
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'''Large gems''' have no subtypes.  It is not possible to issue a job order for large gems; instead, cutting any [[gem]] or raw [[glass]] has a chance to produce a large gem (or a random type of craft) instead of ordinary cut gems.
  
 
==Materials==
 
==Materials==
Most materials can be used to make trade goods.  On occasion, a {{L|dwarf}} in a {{L|strange mood}} will make a trade good out of a material not normally suited for it (e. g., a cloth instrument){{verify}}.
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Most materials can be used to make trade goods.  On occasion, a [[dwarf]] in a [[strange mood]] will make a trade good out of a material not normally suited for it (e. g., a cloth instrument){{verify}}.
  
 
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| {{L|Stone}}||{{L|Stone crafter|Stonecrafting}}||{{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}||Y||Y||Y||Y||N
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| [[Stone]]||[[Stone crafter|Craftsworking]]||[[Craftsdwarf's workshop]]||Y||Y||Y||Y||N
 
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| {{L|Wood}}||{{L|Woodcrafting}}||{{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}||Y||Y||Y||Y||N
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| [[Wood]]||[[Wood crafter|Craftsworking]]||[[Craftsdwarf's workshop]]||Y||Y||Y||Y||N
 
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| {{L|Leather}}||{{L|Leatherworking}}||{{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}||Y||N||N||N||N
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| [[Leather]]||[[Leatherworker|Leatherworking]]||[[Craftsdwarf's workshop]]||Y||N||N||N||N
 
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| {{L|Cloth}}||{{L|Clothier|Clothesmaking}}||{{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}||Y||N||N||N||N
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| [[Cloth]]||[[Clothes maker|Clothes making]]||[[Craftsdwarf's workshop]]||Y||N||N||N||N
 
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|-
| {{L|Bone}}<sup>1</sup>||{{L|Bone carving}}||{{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}||Y||N||N||N||N
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| [[Bone]]<sup>1</sup>||[[Bone carver|Craftsworking]]||[[Craftsdwarf's workshop]]||Y||N||N||N||N
 
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| {{L|Shell}}||{{L|Bone carving}}||{{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}||Y||N||N||N||N
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| [[Shell]]||[[Bone carver|Craftsworking]]||[[Craftsdwarf's workshop]]||Y||N||N||N||N
 
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| {{L|Metal}}||{{L|Metalcrafting}}||{{L|Metalsmith's forge}} or {{L|Magma forge}}||Y||Y||Y||Y||N
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| [[Metal]]||[[Metal crafter|Metalsmithing]]||[[Metalsmith's forge]] or [[Magma forge]]||Y||Y||Y||Y||N
 
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| {{L|Glass}}||{{L|Glassmaking}}||{{L|Glass furnace}} or {{L|Magma glass furnace}}<sup>2</sup>||N||Y||Y||Y||Y<sup>2</sup>
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| [[Glass]]||[[Glassmaker|Glassmaking]]||[[Glass furnace]] or [[Magma glass furnace]]<sup>2</sup>||Y<sup>2</sup>||Y||Y||Y||Y<sup>2</sup>
 
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| {{L|Gems}}||{{L|Gem cutting}}||{{L|Jeweler's workshop}}||Y<sup>2</sup>||N||N||N||Y<sup>2</sup>
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| [[Gem]]s||[[Gem cutter|Jeweling]]||[[Jeweler's workshop]]||Y<sup>2</sup>||N||N||N||Y<sup>2</sup>
 
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:<sup>1</sup> Skull totems, like bone crafts, are also made by a bone carver at a craftsdwarf's workshop.
 
:<sup>1</sup> Skull totems, like bone crafts, are also made by a bone carver at a craftsdwarf's workshop.
:<sup>2</sup> See {{L|Trade good#Large gems|Large gems}} above.  Large glass gems are cut at a jeweler's workshop, not a glass furnace.
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:<sup>2</sup> See [[Trade good#Large gems|Large gems]] above.  Large glass gems are cut at a jeweler's workshop, not a glass furnace.
  
{{L|Stone crafter|Stonecrafting}} is a timeconsuming but easy to set up way to make {{L|export}} goods early, as your {{L|stone crafter}} will have access to tons of {{L|stone}} in a typical fortress. {{L|Stone}} goods are not that valuable and quite heavy, but many of these can be made and they will be accepted by any {{L|trade}}rs.  A legendary stone crafter with a stockpile of high value stone or ore can make some very valuable crafts.
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[[Stone crafter|Stonecrafting]] is a timeconsuming but easy to set up way to make [[export]] goods early, as your [[stone crafter]] will have access to tons of [[stone]] in a typical fortress. [[Stone]] goods are not that valuable and quite heavy, but many of these can be made and they will be accepted by any [[trade]]rs.  A legendary stone crafter with a stockpile of high value stone or ore can make some very valuable crafts.
  
Making crafts from bone or shell is easy to set up if you have any {{L|dwarves}} hunt or fish, but it is easy for production to outstrip supply with legendary bonecrafters.  Additionally, bones and shell have potentially more important uses, such as producing bone {{L|ammo}} and {{L|crossbow}}s, or shell {{L|armor}}.  Skulls, however, have no uses other than totems, so making totems has essentially no drawback.
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Making crafts from bone or shell is easy to set up if you have any [[dwarves]] hunt or fish, but it is easy for production to outstrip supply with legendary bonecrafters.  Additionally, bones and shell have potentially more important uses, such as producing bone [[ammo]] and [[crossbow]]s, or shell [[armor]].  Skulls, however, have no uses other than totems, so making totems has essentially no drawback. Note that making shell crafts will never produce scepters.
  
Cloth and leather crafts tend to be very light, and can be more {{L|quality|valuable}} than stone crafts, but it takes more effort to produce cloth and leather than it does raw stone. Cloth and leather can also be used to make {{L|clothing}}, which is as lightweight as most trade goods and, in some cases, is automatically produced in pairs.
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Cloth and leather crafts tend to be very light, and can be more [[quality|valuable]] than stone crafts, but it takes more effort to produce cloth and leather than it does raw stone, and they can only be used to make amulets, earrings, and bracelets. Cloth and leather can also be used to make [[clothing]], which is as lightweight as most trade goods and, in some cases, is automatically produced in pairs.  
  
Wooden trade goods have low value, the same value as common, non-economic and non-{{L|obsidian}} stone, and cannot be traded to elves.  Unless you have a highly skilled {{L|wood crafter}} and a surplus of wood, making these is not generally useful.
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Wooden trade goods have low value, the same value as common, non-economic and non-[[obsidian]] stone, and cannot be traded to elves.  Unless you have a highly skilled [[wood crafter]] and a surplus of wood, making these is not generally useful.
  
Metal goods can be highly profitable, particularly those made from metals not suitable for making {{L|weapon}}s and {{L|armor}}; however, you may prefer to save metal for {{L|furniture}} instead, particularly to satisfy demands from {{L|noble}}s.
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Metal goods can be highly profitable, particularly those made from metals not suitable for making [[weapon]]s and [[armor]]; however, you may prefer to save metal for [[furniture]] instead, particularly to satisfy demands from [[noble]]s.
  
Green glass goods are as valuable as those made from {{L|flux}} stone, and clear glass goods are significantly more valuable.  However, glass goods are difficult to produce in large quantities due to the requirement of having to gather sand first; clear glass also requires {{L|pearlash}} (putting a strain on your {{L|wood}} supplies) and is equal in value to {{L|bronze}}, and crystal glass production is further limited by what few rough {{L|rock crystal}}s you are able to locate and successfully mine out, though said goods are equal in value to those made of {{L|iron}} or {{L|silver}}.
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Green glass goods are as valuable as those made from [[flux]] stone, and clear glass goods are significantly more valuable.  However, glass goods are difficult to produce in large quantities due to the requirement of having to gather sand first; clear glass also requires [[pearlash]] (putting a strain on your [[wood]] supplies) and is equal in value to [[bronze]], and crystal glass production is further limited by what few rough [[rock crystal]]s you are able to locate and successfully mine out, though said goods are equal in value to those made of [[iron]] or [[silver]].
  
 
Gem crafts and large gems can be very valuable depending on the type of gem, but the most valuable gems are fairly rare and it is impossible to control whether or not a craft is produced.
 
Gem crafts and large gems can be very valuable depending on the type of gem, but the most valuable gems are fairly rare and it is impossible to control whether or not a craft is produced.
  
 
{{Category|Items}}
 
{{Category|Items}}

Latest revision as of 17:52, 17 May 2013

This article is about an older version of DF.

Trade good is a term frequently used to refer to items that are lightweight and only useful for trading until after the dwarven economy begins, when they will become wanted trinkets among some dwarves. They include crafts, goblets, instruments, toys, large gems, and totems, some of which have several sub-types. Once produced, all of the various types and sub-types of trade goods are identical except for their weight; rings and earrings are the lightest with a base weight of 1, but the heavier trade goods with a base weight of 10 are still much lighter than items such as furniture or most armor. All types of trade goods are stored in finished goods stockpiles.

There is no way to issue a job order for a specific subtype of a good with multiple subtypes. If you have a mandate to make mini-forges, the best you can do is to order toys and hope for the best.

Some types of trade goods can be produced in multiples. It is possible to get up to three crafts from a single resource. The chance of multiples is increased with more experience in the craftsdwarf skill. Mugs will always be made in threes, so they are more productive in terms of value than other trade goods.

Types of trade goods[edit]

Crafts[edit]

Crafts include idols, rings, earrings, amulets, bracelets, scepters, and crowns. In Adventurer mode, some types of crafts (such as earrings) can be worn, but are still better used as deadly projectiles.

Goblets[edit]

Goblets have no subtypes, but have different names depending on the material from which they are made: rock goblets are called mugs, and wooden goblets are called cups.

Instruments[edit]

Instruments include drums, flutes, harps, trumpets, and piccolos.

Toys[edit]

Toys include mini-forges, toy hammers, toy axes, toy boats, and puzzleboxes.

Totems[edit]

Totems have no subtypes. They are made from skulls.

Large gems[edit]

Large gems have no subtypes. It is not possible to issue a job order for large gems; instead, cutting any gem or raw glass has a chance to produce a large gem (or a random type of craft) instead of ordinary cut gems.

Materials[edit]

Most materials can be used to make trade goods. On occasion, a dwarf in a strange mood will make a trade good out of a material not normally suited for it (e. g., a cloth instrument)[Verify].

Material Labor Workshop Crafts Goblets Instruments Toys Large Gems
Stone Craftsworking Craftsdwarf's workshop Y Y Y Y N
Wood Craftsworking Craftsdwarf's workshop Y Y Y Y N
Leather Leatherworking Craftsdwarf's workshop Y N N N N
Cloth Clothes making Craftsdwarf's workshop Y N N N N
Bone1 Craftsworking Craftsdwarf's workshop Y N N N N
Shell Craftsworking Craftsdwarf's workshop Y N N N N
Metal Metalsmithing Metalsmith's forge or Magma forge Y Y Y Y N
Glass Glassmaking Glass furnace or Magma glass furnace2 Y2 Y Y Y Y2
Gems Jeweling Jeweler's workshop Y2 N N N Y2
1 Skull totems, like bone crafts, are also made by a bone carver at a craftsdwarf's workshop.
2 See Large gems above. Large glass gems are cut at a jeweler's workshop, not a glass furnace.

Stonecrafting is a timeconsuming but easy to set up way to make export goods early, as your stone crafter will have access to tons of stone in a typical fortress. Stone goods are not that valuable and quite heavy, but many of these can be made and they will be accepted by any traders. A legendary stone crafter with a stockpile of high value stone or ore can make some very valuable crafts.

Making crafts from bone or shell is easy to set up if you have any dwarves hunt or fish, but it is easy for production to outstrip supply with legendary bonecrafters. Additionally, bones and shell have potentially more important uses, such as producing bone ammo and crossbows, or shell armor. Skulls, however, have no uses other than totems, so making totems has essentially no drawback. Note that making shell crafts will never produce scepters.

Cloth and leather crafts tend to be very light, and can be more valuable than stone crafts, but it takes more effort to produce cloth and leather than it does raw stone, and they can only be used to make amulets, earrings, and bracelets. Cloth and leather can also be used to make clothing, which is as lightweight as most trade goods and, in some cases, is automatically produced in pairs.

Wooden trade goods have low value, the same value as common, non-economic and non-obsidian stone, and cannot be traded to elves. Unless you have a highly skilled wood crafter and a surplus of wood, making these is not generally useful.

Metal goods can be highly profitable, particularly those made from metals not suitable for making weapons and armor; however, you may prefer to save metal for furniture instead, particularly to satisfy demands from nobles.

Green glass goods are as valuable as those made from flux stone, and clear glass goods are significantly more valuable. However, glass goods are difficult to produce in large quantities due to the requirement of having to gather sand first; clear glass also requires pearlash (putting a strain on your wood supplies) and is equal in value to bronze, and crystal glass production is further limited by what few rough rock crystals you are able to locate and successfully mine out, though said goods are equal in value to those made of iron or silver.

Gem crafts and large gems can be very valuable depending on the type of gem, but the most valuable gems are fairly rare and it is impossible to control whether or not a craft is produced.