http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Trade_agreement&feed=atom&action=history40d Talk:Trade agreement - Revision history2024-03-28T23:49:40ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.35.11http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Trade_agreement&diff=257576&oldid=prevQuietust at 23:32, 23 March 20212021-03-23T23:32:49Z<p></p>
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</table>Quietusthttp://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Trade_agreement&diff=257571&oldid=prevNeenee: link suggestion2021-03-23T21:54:41Z<p>link suggestion</p>
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</table>Neeneehttp://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Trade_agreement&diff=69445&oldid=prevQuietBot: moved Talk:Broken/40d\x3aTrade agreement to 40d Talk:Trade agreement: Fixing talk page name (661/738)2010-03-08T21:54:12Z<p>moved <a href="/index.php?title=Talk:Broken/40d%5Cx3aTrade_agreement&action=edit&redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:Broken/40d\x3aTrade agreement (page does not exist)">Talk:Broken/40d\x3aTrade agreement</a> to <a href="/index.php/40d_Talk:Trade_agreement" title="40d Talk:Trade agreement">40d Talk:Trade agreement</a>: Fixing talk page name (661/738)</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So, what exactly DOES it mean when you bump a trade good desire over to the right a notch or two? I know it makes it more expensive to buy. I assume it makes it more likely to be sent over. However.. If you bump *ALL* trade goods over all the way to the right, do you get more trade goods, period? Or do you just get the same distribution, at twice the price? Does the preference just weight it? Does it weight it within the category, or total? See, one of my common strategies is to bump all leather, cut gems, bars, thread, drinks, and all foods one notch to the right, sometimes more (drinks go all the way). Am I just screwing myself over here, or is it really helping? --[[User:Sowelu|Sowelu]] 12:35, 25 November 2008 (EST)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So, what exactly DOES it mean when you bump a trade good desire over to the right a notch or two? I know it makes it more expensive to buy. I assume it makes it more likely to be sent over. However.. If you bump *ALL* trade goods over all the way to the right, do you get more trade goods, period? Or do you just get the same distribution, at twice the price? Does the preference just weight it? Does it weight it within the category, or total? See, one of my common strategies is to bump all leather, cut gems, bars, thread, drinks, and all foods one notch to the right, sometimes more (drinks go all the way). Am I just screwing myself over here, or is it really helping? --[[User:Sowelu|Sowelu]] 12:35, 25 November 2008 (EST)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The volume for caravans is determined by how good a customer you've been in the past. High profit margins, offerings, etc. Your trade agreements merely decide which goods they'll prefer to bring in the fixed volume they have. Some things will come along regardless of what you ask, though; leather and cloth, for example, tends to come along no matter what you ask for. The caravans have other customers, too! --[[User:ThunderClaw|ThunderClaw]] 12:53, 25 November 2008 (EST)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The volume for caravans is determined by how good a customer you've been in the past. High profit margins, offerings, etc. Your trade agreements merely decide which goods they'll prefer to bring in the fixed volume they have. Some things will come along regardless of what you ask, though; leather and cloth, for example, tends to come along no matter what you ask for. The caravans have other customers, too! --[[User:ThunderClaw|ThunderClaw]] 12:53, 25 November 2008 (EST)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Fuzzyhttp://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Trade_agreement&diff=46183&oldid=prevMaximus: requests do result in those goods2008-11-25T18:06:29Z<p>requests do result in those goods</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The volume for caravans is determined by how good a customer you've been in the past. High profit margins, offerings, etc. Your trade agreements merely decide which goods they'll prefer to bring in the fixed volume they have. Some things will come along regardless of what you ask, though; leather and cloth, for example, tends to come along no matter what you ask for. The caravans have other customers, too! --[[User:ThunderClaw|ThunderClaw]] 12:53, 25 November 2008 (EST)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The volume for caravans is determined by how good a customer you've been in the past. High profit margins, offerings, etc. Your trade agreements merely decide which goods they'll prefer to bring in the fixed volume they have. Some things will come along regardless of what you ask, though; leather and cloth, for example, tends to come along no matter what you ask for. The caravans have other customers, too! --[[User:ThunderClaw|ThunderClaw]] 12:53, 25 November 2008 (EST)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So, what exactly DOES it mean when you bump a trade good desire over to the right a notch or two? I know it makes it more expensive to buy. I assume it makes it more likely to be sent over. However.. If you bump *ALL* trade goods over all the way to the right, do you get more trade goods, period? Or do you just get the same distribution, at twice the price? Does the preference just weight it? Does it weight it within the category, or total? See, one of my common strategies is to bump all leather, cut gems, bars, thread, drinks, and all foods one notch to the right, sometimes more (drinks go all the way). Am I just screwing myself over here, or is it really helping? --[[User:Sowelu|Sowelu]] 12:35, 25 November 2008 (EST)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>So, what exactly DOES it mean when you bump a trade good desire over to the right a notch or two? I know it makes it more expensive to buy. I assume it makes it more likely to be sent over. However.. If you bump *ALL* trade goods over all the way to the right, do you get more trade goods, period? Or do you just get the same distribution, at twice the price? Does the preference just weight it? Does it weight it within the category, or total? See, one of my common strategies is to bump all leather, cut gems, bars, thread, drinks, and all foods one notch to the right, sometimes more (drinks go all the way). Am I just screwing myself over here, or is it really helping? --[[User:Sowelu|Sowelu]] 12:35, 25 November 2008 (EST)</div></td></tr>
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</table>ThunderClawhttp://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Trade_agreement&diff=46181&oldid=prevSowelu: What do the trade preferences do?2008-11-25T17:35:10Z<p>What do the trade preferences do?</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>So, what exactly DOES it mean when you bump a trade good desire over to the right a notch or two? I know it makes it more expensive to buy. I assume it makes it more likely to be sent over. However.. If you bump *ALL* trade goods over all the way to the right, do you get more trade goods, period? Or do you just get the same distribution, at twice the price? Does the preference just weight it? Does it weight it within the category, or total? See, one of my common strategies is to bump all leather, cut gems, bars, thread, drinks, and all foods one notch to the right, sometimes more (drinks go all the way). Am I just screwing myself over here, or is it really helping? --[[User:Sowelu|Sowelu]] 12:35, 25 November 2008 (EST)</div>Sowelu