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Body token

2026-07-08T20:13:50Z

0x517A5D: typo in example "spike" raws, one character.

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'''Body tokens''' are one of the fundamental parts of creatures, and determine their bodily structure. There are two major types of body tokens: ''body templates'' (BODY) and ''body parts'' (BP).

A creature uses the {{token|BODY|c}} [[creature token]] to list all of the body templates it includes. Each part listed in each template is then included in the creature. In other words: a creature lists the ''body templates'' it is made of, and each ''body template'' contains a set of ''body parts''. Each ''body part'' specifies which other body part it is attached to.

Body parts can connect specifically to another body part, or generally to any body part of a certain category. These connections are handled by the CON and CONTYPE body part tokens respectively.

Body parts can be renamed with a [[bodygloss]], allowing someone to reuse an existing template instead of defining a similar template with only the names of the body parts changed.
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{| {{prettytable}}
|- bgcolor="#999999"
! Token
! Arguments
! Description

|-
| {{text anchor|BP}}
|
*ID
*name
*pluralized name
| Begin the definition of a body part with the given ID, name, and plural name. If the plural form would just add an 's' then it can be replaced with 'STP' (which stands for "Standard Plural").

|-
| {{text anchor|APERTURE}}
|
| Marks the body part as an opening in the body. If it is {{token|EMBEDDED|bo}}, it cannot be gouged.

|-
| {{text anchor|BREATHE}}
|
| Body part is used to breathe. If all body parts with [BREATHE] are damaged or destroyed, the creature will suffocate unless it has the {{token|NOBREATHE|c}} tag. Note that bruising counts as (fast-healing) damage.

|-
| {{text anchor|CATEGORY}}
|
*ID
| Assigns the body part to a user-defined category. Used by {{token|CON_CAT|bo}} to attach to other body parts.

|-
| {{text anchor|CON}}
|
*value
| Connects the body part to a specific other body part.

|-
| {{text anchor|CON_CAT}}
|
*value
| Connects the body part to all other body parts having the specified {{token|CATEGORY|bo}}.

|-
| {{text anchor|CONTYPE}}
|
*value
| Connects the body part to all other body parts having the specified type token. Valid values are [[body_token#UPPERBODY|UPPERBODY]], [[body_token#LOWERBODY|LOWERBODY]], [[body_token#HEAD|HEAD]], [[body_token#GRASP|GRASP]], or [[body_token#STANCE|STANCE]].

|-
| {{text anchor|CIRCULATION}}
|
| Body part is responsible for blood circulation. Exact effects not known.

|-
| {{text anchor|CONNECTOR}}
|
| Body part is used to connect other body parts together. Used for the neck and lower spine.

|-
| {{text anchor|DEFAULT_RELSIZE}}
|
*Size
| This command establishes the relative size of body parts within a creature. The numbers have no absolute meaning or units.

|-
| {{text anchor|DIGIT}}
|
| Defines part as a digit. Body parts that are digits, or have them as direct sub-parts, can perform gouging attacks within a wrestling hold.

|-
| {{text anchor|EMBEDDED}}
|
| Body part with this tag is embedded on the surface of parent body part. i.e.: eyes and mouth on head. It cannot be chopped off, can't be used to wrestle enemies and can't be grabbed by them.

|-
| {{text anchor|FLIER}}
|
| Flags the body part as being needed for flight. Damage to a certain number of FLIER body parts will prevent the creature from flying. Note that a creature can only fly if the creature has the {{token|FLIER|c}} tag in its creature definition, and that a flying creature does not actually need any FLIER body parts. This tag's only purpose is to identify body parts which will cause a creature to '''lose''' the ability to fly when damaged.

|-
| {{text anchor|GELDABLE}}
|
| Creatures with a body part containing this token may be [[gelder|gelded]], creating a sterile creature that is typically marked with {{DFtext|x{{char|11}}x}}. Gelding may also occur during combat if this body part is damaged sufficiently.
Despite its name, GELDABLE does not need to be combined with [[Creature token#MALE|MALE]]. A modded [[Creature token#FEMALE|FEMALE]] creature with a GELDABLE body part can be "gelded" through the regular gelding interface or through combat damage, resulting in a sterile creature marked {{DFtext|x{{char|12}}x}}.

|-
| {{text anchor|GRASP}}
|
| Creature can wield a picked-up weapon with the body part, and can use the part to initiate almost all wrestling moves. When creatures are spawned with a weapon and shield, one GRASP part will hold a weapon while '''all others''' will hold shields. A grasp-able bodypart is needed for Grasp-attacks, which are in turn needed to start a fist fight. Creatures throwing a tantrum, but missing a bodypart with the grasp-property, will be cancelling their fist fight, due to being 'too injured'.

|-
| {{text anchor|GUTS}}
|
| Body part is susceptible to low blows. Used for guts. Damage to this body part causes nausea and may make the creature lose turns, vomiting uncontrollably.

|-
| {{text anchor|HEAD}}
|
| Flags the body part as being able to wear head clothing like hats, helms, etc. If all heads are chopped off, the creature dies. Multiple heads '''are''' redundant - for example, [[hydra]]s can survive with several missing heads.

|-
| {{text anchor|HEAR}}
|
| Body part is used to hear. May be a requirement for the body part to wear earrings.

|-
| {{text anchor|INDIVIDUAL_NAME}}
|
*name
*plural
| Adding individual names tells the game what to call each individual part in a [[body_token#NUMBER|NUMBER]]ed bodypart. This command replaces "first upper front tooth" for example.

|-
| {{text anchor|INTERNAL}}
|
| Marks the body part as being inside the body. It is behind all the other tissues of the body part, cannot be severed, nor used for wrestling. It cannot be targeted directly in combat, but can be damaged by attacks to the parent body part.

|-
| {{text anchor|JOINT}}
|
| Body part is a joint. If the limb it's in is grabbed in a wrestling hold, it can be broken with bending force, disabling the parent limb. If the joint is modded to sit outside the body, grabbing and breaking it snaps the entire limb right off.

|-
| {{text anchor|LIMB}}
|
| Body part is a limb. It can be used to initiate most wrestling moves. If it is located between an {{token|UPPERBODY|bo}} part and a {{token|GRASP|bo}} body part, it is eligible to be covered by certain types of armor (body armors and gauntlets). If it is located between a {{token|LOWERBODY|bo}} part and a {{token|STANCE|bo}} body part, it is eligible to be covered by other types of armor (Leg armors like pants, etc.; trailing body armors like mail shirts and robes; and high boots).

|-
| {{text anchor|LOWERBODY}}
|
| Flags the body part as being able to wear lower body clothing like skirts, pants, etc. If all parts with this token are chopped off or pulped, the creature dies. If the creature has multiple parts with this token, they will not die until all parts with this token have been pulped or severed. No such creature exists in the base game, however.

|-
| {{text anchor|LEFT}}
|
| Marks body part as on the left side of the body and vulnerable to attacks from the left. Used in conjunction with tags in the b_detail_plan_default raw.

|-
| {{text anchor|MOUTH}}
|
| Body part is a mouth. Implication unknown.

|-
| {{text anchor|NUMBER}}
|
*value
| The number lets you stack identical body parts. These can be individually damaged by wounds, but you don't have to define them explicitly one by one. If you don't give them individual names (see teeth) they'll be preceded by ordinal numbers (first, second, etc.). In practice, though, they cannot be individually damaged - if you knock out one tooth, the entire group will be knocked out at once (and will be scattered across the area). Butchering doesn't respect this and produces only a single body part per group. The value is capped at 32.

|-
| {{text anchor|NERVOUS}}
|
| Body part is the hub of nervous function. Used for the parts of the spine. Damage disables everything in the parent bodypart and what's below it, causing death by suffocation in most cases.

|-
| {{text anchor|PREVENTS_PARENT_COLLAPSE}}
|
| Body part must be destroyed in order for the attached parent object to be considered destroyed. Found on skulls and spinal columns.

|-
| {{text anchor|RIGHT}}
|
| Marks body part as on the right side of the body and vulnerable to attacks from the right. Used in conjunction with tags in the b_detail_plan_default raw.

|-
| {{text anchor|SKELETON}}
|
| Body part is part of the creature's skeleton.

|-
| {{text anchor|STANCE}}
|
| Allows the creature to stand. Damage or loss of these body parts will cause the creature to fall over - loss of one STANCE part can be substituted with a crutch. Does not give the body part an ability to initiate wrestling moves, unlike {{token|GRASP|bo}} or {{token|LIMB|bo}}.

|-
| {{text anchor|SIGHT}}
|
| Body part is used to see. If the creature has no SIGHT body parts, or if all its sight body parts are damaged or destroyed, it can't see unless it has the {{token|EXTRAVISION|c}} tag in its creature definition.

|-
| {{text anchor|SMELL}}
|
| Body part is used to smell. Currently unused.

|-
| {{text anchor|SMALL}}
|
| "SMALL means that the part isn't displayed as part of the overall displayed body part lists, and can't be splinted. They are more often targeted for torture (although those situations might not occur anymore). They are removed in skeletons if they aren't specifically skeletons/joints/digits/apertures. They are more easily lost in world gen duels. They are the only gougable/pinchable parts ''(note: at least this is no longer the case.)''. SMALL is an old tag, so it has accumulated some weird functions which'll get split off over time. " --Toady

|-
| {{text anchor|SOCKET}}
|
| Body part breaks off and goes flying if broken, even with blunt force. Used on teeth to make them easy to knock out - rendered invalid by {{token|INTERNAL|bo}}.

|-
| {{text anchor|THROAT}}
|
| Body part can be strangled - latching bites that hit the head have a chance to target this instead. Note: this tag doesn't control any bleeding behavior.

|-
| {{text anchor|THOUGHT}}
|
| The central core of the body, used with the brain. Damage causes instant death, unless the creature has {{token|NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT|c}}/{{token|NOTHOUGHT|c}}.{{verify}}

If no body part has this token (and none of the above exclusions are specified), the creature will spawn injured and will be unable to stand or fly. If the creature is a {{token|FLIER|c}}, this can result in it spawning in mid-air, immediately plummeting to the ground, and dying of fall damage.

|-
| {{text anchor|TOTEMABLE}}
|
| This bodypart can be turned into a totem by craftsmen. Always drops from slaughtered creatures, no matter how small.

|-
| {{text anchor|UPPERBODY}}
|
| Flags the body part as being able to wear upper body clothing like coats, breastplates etc. If all parts with this token are pulped or chopped off, the creature dies. Multiple UPPERBODY parts are redundant, but no such creatures exist in the base game. All default creatures with bodies have the upper body as the root of the body tree, making it impossible to chop off.

|-
| {{text anchor|UNDER_PRESSURE}}
|
| Makes the body part pop out of the body when cut through - used on guts. Body part shows up as "~" and drags behind the victim when spilled.

|-
| {{text anchor|VERMIN_BUTCHER_ITEM}}
|
| Allows the item to be obtained from butchered or rotted vermin - used with [[shell]]s.

|}

==Example==
The following example creates an arrangement of spike parts that emerge from spike bases arranged along the upper and lower back. The parts are attached together in a flexible way that allows the creature definition to choose how many spikes bases are arranged on the body, how thick the spike bases are, and how many spikes emerge from each individual base.

{{code|defines spikes that are intended to looking something like this:
/\ <-SPIKE
<nowiki>||</nowiki>
_<nowiki>||</nowiki>_ <-SPIKE_BASE
____/ \____ <-SPIKE_LAYOUT (flush with existing skin)

[BODY:SPIKE_LAYOUT_8] arranges 8 spikes along the back
[BP:UBACK_SPIKE_AREA_UL:left upper back:STP][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][EMBEDDED][LEFT][CATEGORY:SPIKE_LAYOUT] the SPIKE_LAYOUT category marks where our spike bases will grow out of the body later
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:80]
[BP:UBACK_SPIKE_AREA_UR:right upper back:STP][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][EMBEDDED][RIGHT][CATEGORY:SPIKE_LAYOUT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:80]
[BP:UBACK_SPIKE_AREA_LL:left upper middle back:STP][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][EMBEDDED][LEFT][CATEGORY:SPIKE_LAYOUT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:80]
[BP:UBACK_SPIKE_AREA_LR:right upper middle back:STP][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][EMBEDDED][RIGHT][CATEGORY:SPIKE_LAYOUT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:80]
[BP:LBACK_SPIKE_AREA_UL:left lower middle back:STP][CONTYPE:LOWERBODY][EMBEDDED][LEFT][CATEGORY:SPIKE_LAYOUT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:80]
[BP:LBACK_SPIKE_AREA_UR:right lower middle back:STP][CONTYPE:LOWERBODY][EMBEDDED][RIGHT][CATEGORY:SPIKE_LAYOUT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:80]
[BP:LBACK_SPIKE_AREA_LL:left lower back:STP][CONTYPE:LOWERBODY][EMBEDDED][LEFT][CATEGORY:SPIKE_LAYOUT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:80]
[BP:LBACK_SPIKE_AREA_LR:right lower back:STP][CONTYPE:LOWERBODY][EMBEDDED][RIGHT][CATEGORY:SPIKE_LAYOUT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:80]

[BODY:SPIKE_LAYOUT_4] arranges 4 spikes in the middle of the back
[BP:UBACK_SPIKE_AREA_LL:left upper middle back:STP][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][EMBEDDED][LEFT][CATEGORY:SPIKE_LAYOUT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:80]
[BP:UBACK_SPIKE_AREA_LR:right upper middle back:STP][CONTYPE:UPPERBODY][EMBEDDED][RIGHT][CATEGORY:SPIKE_LAYOUT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:80]
[BP:LBACK_SPIKE_AREA_UL:left lower middle back:STP][CONTYPE:LOWERBODY][EMBEDDED][LEFT][CATEGORY:SPIKE_LAYOUT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:80]
[BP:LBACK_SPIKE_AREA_UR:right lower middle back:STP][CONTYPE:LOWERBODY][EMBEDDED][RIGHT][CATEGORY:SPIKE_LAYOUT]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:80]

[BODY:SPIKE_BASE_THIN] a small base for spike(s)
[BP:SB_THIN:thin spike base:STP][CON_CAT:SPIKE_LAYOUT][CATEGORY:SPIKE_BASE] a SB_THIN will grow out of every SPIKE_LAYOUT part we have added to the body
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:20]

[BODY:SPIKE_BASE_MED] a medium base for spike(s)
[BP:SB_MED:spike base:STP][CON_CAT:SPIKE_LAYOUT][CATEGORY:SPIKE_BASE] a SB_MED will grow out of every SPIKE_LAYOUT part
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:30]

[BODY:SPIKE_BASE_THICK] a large base for spike(s)
[BP:SB_THICK:thick spike base:STP][CON_CAT:SPIKE_LAYOUT][CATEGORY:SPIKE_BASE] a SB_THICK will grow out of every SPIKE_LAYOUT part
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:40]

[BODY:SPIKE_1] a single spike
[BP:S1:spike:STP][CON_CAT:SPIKE_BASE][CATEGORY:SPIKE] a S1 will grow out of every SPIKE_BASE part we have added to the body
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:30]

[BODY:SPIKE_2] a pair of spikes
[BP:S1:spike:STP][CON_CAT:SPIKE_BASE][CATEGORY:SPIKE] a S1 and S2 will grow out of every SPIKE_BASE part
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:30]
[BP:S2:spike:STP][CON_CAT:SPIKE_BASE][CATEGORY:SPIKE]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:30]

[BODY:SPIKE_3] a trio of spikes
[BP:S1:spike:STP][CON_CAT:SPIKE_BASE][CATEGORY:SPIKE] a S1, S2, and S3 will grow out of every SPIKE_BASE part
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:30]
[BP:S2:spike:STP][CON_CAT:SPIKE_BASE][CATEGORY:SPIKE]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:30]
[BP:S3:spike:STP][CON_CAT:SPIKE_BASE][CATEGORY:SPIKE]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:30]
}}
Usage:

``[BODY:QUADRUPED_NECK:SPIKE_LAYOUT_8:SPIKE_BASE_THICK:SPIKE_2]`` would create a creature with 8 thick spike bases that each hold 2 spikes.

``[BODY:QUADRUPED_NECK:SPIKE_LAYOUT_4:SPIKE_BASE_THIN:SPIKE_1]`` would create a creature with 4 thin spike bases that each hold a single spike.

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{{Category|Tokens}}
[[ru:Body token]]

User:0x517A5D

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== Build (very old) ==
I obsessively min-max my starting profile, even though it doesn't matter in the long run.

My latest build was intended for a resource-heavy wooded terrifying area in version {{version|0.31.03}}.

* 4 ambusher / 2 crossbowman / 1 negotiator / 1 judge of intent / 1 appraiser / 1 pacifier
:Immediately drafted as sole early protection. Starts with a free crossbow due to ambusher skill. May mine if area seems safe. Cross-trained as weaponsmith.
* 5 diagnostician / 4 surgeon / 1 wound dresser
:Woodcutting, mining. Cross-trained as weaponsmith.
* 5 grower / 5 brewer
:Fortress maintenance, incidental tasks. Mines until underground farm area is prepared. Cross-trained as armorsmith.
* 5 grower / 5 cook
:Fortress maintenance, wealth creation (prepared meals), incidental tasks. Mines until underground farm area is prepared. Cross-trained as armorsmith.
* 5 mechanic / 5 herbalist
:Fortress maintenance, wealth creation (mechanisms), plant gathering to allow above-ground farming, possibly some mining.
* 5 carpenter / 5 glassmaker
:Beds, furniture, floodgates, glass pumps, frees up a few sandbags to be seed bags, mining.
* 5 mason / 5 furnace operator
:Mining, blocks for buildings and pumps, maybe some furniture. Also makes coke and charcoal for glassmaking.

Note the lack of metalworking skills. I have decided that except possibly furnace operator, the metalworking skills are not important enough to buy at embark. Instead I attempt to direct strange moods by cross-training unskilled workers by doing a single job in the skill I want. Accordingly I keep most of the seven starters from starting with moodable skills, and do not assign them jobs that would yield moods I consider worthless. I'm looking at ''you'', tanning/leatherworking.

I am now mixing the early wealth creation roles with the fortress maintenance roles. This can be considered exploitative, as meals are worth too much, and mechanisms made out of iron ore are worth too much.

I am not convinced that there is much need to buy medical skills during embark. Diagnostician appears to be the most important of the medical skills.

I am growing colder on buying masonry at embark time. It is redundant to carpentry, glassmaking, and the metalworking skills.

* 4 copper picks
* no axes (use training axe exploit)
* 1 iron anvil (not really needed)
* 25 rock nuts
* 15 pig tail seeds
* 1 each of other seeds/spawn (for bags)
* 11 each of the 4 dwarven alcohols
* 16 plump helmets (for wine & seeds)
* 1 each of all 2P/4P meat/fish (for barrels)
* 1 of each available type of milk (for barrels)
* 20 bituminous coal (-> coke -> glass and metalworking)
* 2 pieces 5P leather (reserved for moods)
* 2 cave spider silk thread (reserved for moods)
* 1 10P small cut gem (reserved for moods)
* 4 kimberlite (for color-coded levers)
* 4 petrified wood (for color-coded levers)
* 4 olivine (for color-coded levers)
* 40 sand (for bags)
* 4 dogs (1 male, 3 female)
* as many logs as possible, around 20.
 
The rules this time:
* No moat-the-map or wall-the-map.
* No stonefall traps in places that are 'outside' — i.e. don't have a ceiling.
* Non-stonefall traps only in constructed or excavated & smoothed areas. Traps in excavated dirt areas must have a stone floor built on that tile.
* Metal mechanisms for all non-stonefall traps, all gears, all machines. Stone mechanisms are only for trade.
* <s>All furniture to be made of wood, metal, or glass.</s>
* All structures to be built with blocks or bars.
* Furnaces must be made out of fire-safe material; magma furnaces must be made out of magma-safe material. Non magma-safe pumps are allowed.
* GRASSTRAMPLE cut to 1 for civilized and domestic species, 0 for elves and cats.
* Flours and sugar modded out.

Depending on the map, the defender/mayor either becomes a soldier or a miner. (He starts with a free crossbow and bolts because of the ambusher skill.) Either way, turn off hunting. If he's a soldier, someone else trains the dogs and then assigns 2 to him and 2 to the herbalist.

The carpenter/glassmaker makes 6 tables and chairs, and 4 or so beds. 2 tables and chairs are made into offices for the bookkeeper and manager, 4 more are made into a dining room.

Depending on the map, the initially-unskilled miners may dig out large areas of soil to level up. Digging soil is much faster than digging rock and gives the same experience. This is best done in two or three stages: dig up-stairs, then remove them, then possibly dig down-stairs. This gives experience twice or three times per tile. Note that tiles with down-stairs cannot grow shrubs/trees.

I like to get immigrants as soon as possible, and as many as possible. I do this by digging out large swaths of dirt and by making mechanisms out of expensive ore to increase the fortress's created wealth. (The 30x multiplier on mechanisms may be seen as a bug exploit; you may wish to make 25x statues instead.)

Immediately set reserved barrels to 20 or so. You want those barrels for booze.

Start cooking all that food. <s>Forbid the booze barrels that are totally full; cook the rest of the booze.</s>Boozecooking is currently bugged{{version|0.31.03}}. Cook the seeds to recover their bags.

Later, you must remember to turn off booze cooking and reclaim the full booze barrels.

Still later, when you buy fish and seeds from the traders, you must remember to turn off cooking on each type.

Customize food piles to not accept booze, seeds, or dye plants. Booze barrels can stay in the still -- they hardly clutter it at all (unlike, say, prepared meals in the kitchen). It's too early for dyeing, so we don't want to waste the space. And a seedpile is best made near your farm.

Also set food piles to 0 barrels, except the seedpile should allow 1. This means you need more space devoted to food piles, but you can see at a glance how much food you have. (Note: supposedly you will lose more food to vermin this way.) (Now I think this should be done only for the prepared-food pile.)

Dig cisterns to hold pond water in case it evaporates. (Not necessary if the map is cold or has running water.) The cisterns must be in a rock layer to prevent evaporation.

The outdoor refuse pile should be customized to not accept rotten plants because the herbalists will be dropping dye plants as soon as they pick them, and we don't want to waste time hauling them when they wither.

I make heavy use of the "quantum stockpiles" that the dump designation and garbage zone allows. It allows much more control over item placement and disposition than stockpiles do.

Think big, there's lots of room. But remember to centralize as well.

Vertical connectivity is king. An up/down staircase takes no longer to dig than an empty square, and has much more potential. You can't put a building on an up/down, but you can put a stockpile or zone on it. If you can tolerate the flashing.

Make magma channels two-wide or more for faster filling, or use a pump to get it done even faster.

== Siege Checklist ==

* Turn off the [[Skill|Mechanic]] skill on all dwarves.
::This stops reloading of cage traps and stone traps.
::This is '''not necessary''' if all traps are forbidden, as discussed below.
* Turn off [[Standing_orders|animal gathering]] {{K|o}}{{K|a}}.
::This prevents gathering of occupied cages.
::This is '''not necessary''' if all traps are forbidden, as discussed below.
* Turn off [[Standing_orders|wood gathering]] {{K|o}}{{K|w}}.
* Turn off [[Standing_orders#Refuse_orders|collect outside refuse]] {{K|o}}{{K|r}}{{K|o}}.
* Turn on all [[Standing_orders|Forbid]] orders {{K|o}}{{K|F}}{{K|pcoit}}.
* Consider turning on [[Standing_orders|only soldiers can go outdoors]] {{K|o}}{{K|i}}.
* Lock someone in the lever room. (You do have a lever room, right?)
::Draft them, station them, relieve them of duty.
::Probably should use two dwarves in case one goes to sleep.
* [[Forbid_items/buildings|Forbid]] all traps {{K|d}}{{K|b}}{{K|f}} before enemies trigger them.
:This prevents clean trap and reset trap jobs and gathering of occupied cages.

=== Post-Siege Checklist ===

* Ensure that enemies have left the map. {{K|u}}nit list, between tame animals and deceased units.
* Bring some or all squads off-duty.
* Turn on [[Skill|Mechanic]] on [[Mechanic]] units and possibly some [[Legendary|legendary]] units.
* Turn on animal gathering.
* Turn on wood gathering.
* Re-set Forbid orders.
* Allow all dwarves to go outdoors.
* Unlock the lever room.
* Reclaim all dead bodies through stocks menu.
* Reclaim all trap components through stocks menu.
* Wait for bodies to be hauled to refuse piles and graveyards.
* Mass-mark enemy equipment for melting {{K|d}}{{K|b}}{{K|m}}.
::Alternatively mark all equipment for dumping {{K|d}}{{K|b}}{{K|d}}, then re-mark for melting {{K|d}}{{K|b}}{{K|m}}, which removes the dump tag. This results in dumping all non-metal items; the metal ones can then be hauled to weapon/armor piles near the smelters.
* Unmark trap components for dumping and/or melting through stocks menu.
* Reclaim the enemy equipment {{K|d}}{{K|b}}{{K|c}}.
* (Unknown)
* Profit!

23a:Diamond

2016-08-25T23:09:05Z

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{{quality|Fine|21:44, 23 September 2010 (UTC)}}{{Gem|name=Diamond|color=7:7:1
|properties=
* Precious
* [[Material value]] 40}}
{{av}}

'''Diamond''' is one of several precious [[gem]]s, found mainly beyond the [[chasm]] as well as rarely within clusters of [[opal]]s.

{{gamedata}}
{{gems}}

Bauxite

2016-01-17T21:34:48Z

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{{Quality|Superior|23:42, 17 May 2015 (UTC)}}
{{stonelookup/0}}{{av}}

'''Bauxite''' is a dark-red sedimentary [[stone]]. [[40d:Bauxite|Once]] highly prized as the only practical source of [[magma-safe]] [[mechanism]]s to create magma-proof devices, its importance has declined with the addition of many new heat-resistant forms of stone as well as the ability to make [[metal]] mechanisms from [[iron]] and [[steel]]. Nevertheless, it is still used by some long-time players for nostalgia and its rare, bloody appearance makes it an interesting aesthetic choice.

Bauxite may contain both [[sapphire]] and [[ruby]].

==In real life==
In real life, bauxite is an ore of [[aluminum]], but the technology required to extract it is beyond the level possessed by dwarves.

Bauxite is a stone comprised primarily of the minerals gibbsite (Aluminum Hydroxide: Al(OH)3), boehmite (Aluminum Oxide-Hydroxide: γ-AlO(OH)), and diaspore (Aluminum Oxide-Hydroxide: α-AlO(OH)) (none of which are individually present in Dwarf Fortress). Bauxite forms by the weathering and mineralization of various aluminum-rich soils or clays. Despite the correspondence in game, corundum, the mineral that makes up [[ruby]] and [[sapphire]] (Aluminum Oxide: Al2O3) does '''not''' form in bauxite.

Extracting aluminum from bauxite, even in the most primitive way, requires the use of the Hall–Héroult process: the electrolysis of bauxite which has been dissolved into molten [[cryolite]]. The development of this process transformed aluminum from an exceptionally rare metal to a cheap, utilitarian material. Dwarves have not yet discovered electricity, therefore they cannot make use of electrolysis to get aluminum from bauxite. (If it were implemented, lightning might work)

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DF2014 Talk:Physics

2014-10-19T17:58:38Z

0x517A5D:

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We must discuss impulse tracks. It seems discontinuity in the track creates energy somehow, but the exact mechanism is not known.
:Minecart track physics have been covered in incredible detail and remarkable clarity by Larix on the forums. This includes analysis of impulse ramps and a simple explanation of what must be happening in the game code for them to behave like they do. The thread is [[http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=144328.0 My very own Minecart Education Thread]]. [[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] ([[User talk:0x517A5D|talk]]) 17:58, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

v0.34 Talk:Block

2014-02-02T17:58:37Z

0x517A5D: /* Fast Construction with Blocks and Unskilled Labor */

==4 stone blocks out of 1 stone==

Did anyone else notice, that as of 34_08 one stone is made into 4 stone blocks? Is this meant to happen or a bug?
[[User:Ashameron|Ashameron]] 18:42, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

:Definitely intended. You get 1/4 as many stones from mining, and each stone gives 4 blocks. Also each ore stone gives 4 bars now. --[[User:Greycat|Greycat]] 19:18, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Can you make furniture out of blocks, or is it still only stone? If it's the former, I might actually start running out of stone for furniture now... --[[User:Nyotor Lizardhammers|Nyotor Lizardhammers]] 21:17, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

:You can't make crafts or furniture out of blocks, but most fixed-location objects (walls, workshops, bridges, etc.) can be made from blocks. -- [[User:HiEv|Hi]][[User talk:HiEv|Ev]] 00:27, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

==Magma Safe Bricks?==
Can anyone say if ceramic blocks (bricks) are magma-safe? Does it depend on type of clay (earthenware/stoneware)? -- [[User:Shorr|Shorr]] ([[User talk:Shorr|talk]]) 21:08, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
:Well, I could not build a magma smelter with fire clay bricks, so the answer is probably "No, they are not". -- [[User:Shorr|Shorr]] ([[User talk:Shorr|talk]]) 23:32, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

==Fast Construction with Blocks and Unskilled Labor==

If you make blocks & assign a number of semi-useless dwarves to masonry labor, you can set your mason's workshops to 'minimum: novice' and you can throw up constructions extremely fast. I checked and dabbling/no skill masons do not get any experience for this task and furthermore they do not do it slower than real masons. The simple test is to add a single dabbling dwarf to the mason labor and build a wall with a few blocks. If the timing is right all of the dwarves will start at the same time and finish at the same time. These dwarves are literally unskilled labor. --[[User:Riverc|Riverc]] ([[User talk:Riverc|talk]]) 04:19, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
:Yes, this works. If I'm building a big aboveground project or a long wall, I enable Masonry on my Hauler-class dwarves. Caveat: certain jobs will cause them to gain a bit of experience in Masonry, which will then guide any strange moods they have. These jobs are basically constructing any building (workshop, trade depot, pump, …) that uses a stone block as a material. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] ([[User talk:0x517A5D|talk]]) 17:58, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

v0.34:Strange mood

2013-07-23T17:43:49Z

0x517A5D: Covered by Overview point 1. Generally considered not a bug. Undo revision 190328 by 2602:30A:C0D1:C469:590C:7EAD:E644:4527 (talk)

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Periodically, individual dwarves are struck with an idea for a [[legendary artifact]] and enter a '''strange mood'''. Dwarves which enter a strange mood will stop whatever they are doing and pursue the construction of this artifact to the exclusion of all else. They will not stop to eat, drink, sleep, or even run away from dangerous creatures. If they do not manage to begin construction of the artifact within a handful of months, they will go [[#Failure|insane]] and die soon afterward.

Note: All controllable civilizations are currently able to enter strange moods, though in earlier versions of DF the only civilization this applies to is dwarves.

==Overview==

# The conditions necessary for a strange mood to occur are not fully understood, although they may possess even dwarf children.
# The game will pause, center on a dwarf, and announce that the dwarf has entered one of five different types of strange moods. The [[#Types of moods|types of moods]] are listed below. While in a mood, a dwarf will display a blinking exclamation point (see [[Status icon|status icons]]).
# For the duration of the mood, the dwarf will claim a workshop related to the skill that the mood affects (not all skills are eligible), kick out any dwarf who was using it, and render it otherwise unusable until the mood has been resolved. If a moody dwarf does not claim a workshop, it is because the appropriate workshop does not exist. (See [[#Skills and workshops|skills and workshops]] below to determine which workshop(s) might be required.) A moody dwarf will ''not'' be able to build a needed workshop; another dwarf with the appropriate [[labor]] designation must do so for them, if one is necessary. Furnaces are also counted as a workshop.
# After claiming a workshop, the dwarf will set about collecting the required materials for their artifact. If the dwarf remains idle inside the workshop, it's because they cannot find the right material. Reference the [[#Demands|demands]] section to determine what may be required. Important Note: They will only collect these materials in the order that they require them. In other words, you have to determine where they are on the list of required materials and then provide the next one before they will continue collecting other materials.
# Once all materials have been gathered, the game will once again pause and center, and the moody dwarf will begin construction. Upon completion the dwarf will create a semi-random artifact related to the skill affected and gain [[legendary]] (or higher) status in that skill (unless the mood type is [[#Possessed|possessed]]). See the [[#Skills and workshops|skills and workshops]] for information on which skills can be gained, or the [[#Artifacts created|artifacts created]] section for more details on the artifacts themselves.

== Types of moods ==
For each of the following types of moods, the first message is how the mood is [[Announcement|announced]]; the second message appears in the dwarf's profile when he or she is viewed with the {{K|v}} key. All moody dwarves will have "Strange Mood" listed as their active task and are "quite content", regardless of any recent [[thought]]s they may have had.

=== Fey ===
* {{Gametext|<dwarf> is taken by a fey mood!|7:1}}
: ''Has the aspect of one fey!''

This is the most basic strange mood. Fey dwarves will clearly state their demands when the workshop they are in is examined.

=== Secretive ===
* {{Gametext|<dwarf> withdraws from society...|7:0}}
: ''Peculiarly secretive...''

Secretive moods are the same as fey moods, except a secretive dwarf will sketch pictures of their required materials instead of clearly stating their demands if they cannot find what they need. Descriptions of all these [[#Demands|secretive requirements]] can be seen only by viewing the workshop that the moody dwarf has claimed, with {{k|q}}, and then only while the dwarf is waiting inside it. More than one "picture" is likely; these will cycle through the entire list automatically if any one is not available. (Since materials are gathered ''in order'', it's quite possible that only one of a long list is needed to allow the moody dwarf to continue on their project. If the dwarf has gathered some of the materials (seen as "tasked" when looking at the workshop with {{k|t}}), then the next in the list is what they are looking for.)

=== Possessed ===
* {{Gametext|<dwarf> has been possessed!|5:1}}
: ''Possessed by unknown forces!''

Possessed dwarves have cryptic material requests, and have the unfortunate distinction of not receiving any experience upon successful construction of an artifact. No controllable circumstances lead to a possessed mood instead of one of the more desirable fey or secretive moods. It is pure luck-based. Possessed dwarves will mutter the name of the artifact they are working on (which, under some circumstances, might end up being ''their own name'') once they have all the materials they need.

A possession is the only mood that does '''''not''''' result in a jump in [[experience]].

A possessed dwarf that "keeps muttering <name of the artifact>..." has already gathered everything it needs.

=== Fell ===
* {{Gametext|<dwarf> looses a roaring laughter, fell and terrible!|5:0}}
: ''Has a horrible fell look!''

A dwarf that goes into a fell mood will always take over a [[butcher's shop]] or a [[tanner's shop]]. If neither are available, any other workshop will be used instead. The dwarf will then ''murder'' the nearest dwarf (bonus if it's a noble), drag the corpse into the shop and make some sort of object out of dwarf [[leather]] or [[bone]]. Once the artifact is completed, the fell dwarf will become a legendary [[bone carver]] or [[leatherworker]]. Only unhappy dwarves may enter a fell mood.

Amusingly, it seems fell dwarves can murder [[ghost]]s as well.

Aside from the loss of a potentially important dwarf in the wrong place at the wrong time, there doesn't seem to be any downside to a fell mood. The end result is always an artifact and a legendary craftsdwarf. Since the only ingredient used (a dwarf) is available in abundance, a fell mood will only fail if the fell dwarf is completely isolated from other dwarves, or if the proper workshop does not exist.

If no one is around to witness the murder, whichever dwarf Urist McEmo decides to slaughter will be reported as missing some time after his death. If the murder is witnessed, the moody dwarf will be subject to dwarven [[justice]].

=== Macabre ===
* {{Gametext|<dwarf> begins to stalk and brood...|0:1}}
: ''Brooding darkly...''

Macabre moods are similar to fell moods, but the dwarf will not murder a fellow dwarf. A macabre dwarf may require bones, skulls{{verify}}, or vermin remains; if you do not happen to have any, you will have to make some, e.g. by butchering an animal and/or allowing a [[cat]] to go hunting, or let the moody dwarf go insane. Like fell moods, only unhappy dwarves can enter macabre moods.

==Caveats==
* Shells are perhaps the most difficult to obtain material for a strange mood, though they can be acquired more easily in DF2012 than in earlier versions. Previously, [[turtle]]s, [[mussel]]s, [[oyster]]s, [[cave lobster]]s, and certain [[titan]]s were the only source of shells. DF2012 adds several {{catlink|Shell|other creatures}} that produce shells. Some of these, such as [[armadillo]]s and [[common snapping turtle]]s, are butcherable. DF2012 also adds [[nautilus|another vermin fish]] that can serve as sources of shells when cleaned at a fishery. Nevertheless, shells are rare and hard to acquire. Currently, the only way of trading for shells is to hope that the [[elven]] caravan brings some tamed shell-producing large creature. Traded [[cave lobster]]s and [[turtle]]s are ''processed'' fish (with the shells already removed). Tamed vermin with shells cannot be butchered for their shells, since the only way to get a vermin's shell is to [[Fish cleaning|clean]] it. Since all shelled non-vermin animals are [[exotic pet|exotic]], only elves will bring them{{verify}}. If you should be fortunate enough to acquire some breeding shelled butcherable animals, it's probably worth keeping a breeding pair around in case of future need. Only dwarves with a [[preference]] for shells will demand shells in a strange mood.
* Should the claimed workshop be a [[magma forge]] and lose power due to insufficient magma beneath it, the mood will fail immediately and the dwarf will go [[insanity|insane]]. Should the forge be in danger of losing power, you should forbid it before it is claimed and wait until it is powered up reliably. Once magma forges are built, at least some dwarves will no longer be satisfied with a regular forge.
* The following can happen (v .31.12) "OVERWROTE JOB: Strange Mood BY Starting Fist Fight".
* The mood's primary material will only be mentioned ''once'' in the dwarf's requests, even if the dwarf wants more than one unit of it. [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=75139.0;topicseen]
* The item type of the artifact to be created is not decided until the instant the mood ''ends''. Saving (even after a dwarf has begun to gather materials) will allow you to reload and the result may be a different artifact (unless the moody dwarf's preferences force a particular item type). If you want to get an artifact platinum warhammer, make sure to have platinum nearby and/or block access to any other materials. You can reload the artifact creating process, even after the dwarf has gathered most of components by forbidding the claimed items (use {{k|t}} to view the contents of the workshop, select the undesired material, and press {{k|f}} to forbid it). If other items of that type are available, the dwarf will immediately switch to them.
* Requests for bones are actually requests for any kind of bone stacks, not individual bones. Slaughter a puppy. [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=105002.0]

==Bugs==
* There are bugs reported related to moody dwarves. As has been the case in 40d, most turned out to be (understandable) failures of the player to grasp the mechanics of artifact creation and demands. Bug tracker: [http://bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view_all_bug_page.php]
* Moody Dwarves don't respect burrows when grabbing a workshop, but DO when looking for items. If his claimed workshop is outside his assigned burrow, the dwarf will continue to grab materials until all materials of the needed type are exhausted within his assigned burrow, this is similar to the [[Main:Planepacked|Planepacked]] glitch.
* If a dwarf dies because of failing to complete an artifact, a memorial made to the dwarf will read that the dwarf did create it, despite the failure, and will even list the name of the artifact that never came to be.
* When producing an item that is normally made in pairs (gloves, boots, etc.), only a single legendary item will be created.

== Demands ==
Once a workshop is claimed, the dwarf will begin collecting materials. Each artifact will require between one and ten materials to complete. The dwarf may well need several items of one material! If the moody dwarf remains idle, then the necessary materials are not available. [[Forbid|Forbidden]] items must be reclaimed ({{K|d}} - {{K|b}} - {{K|c}}) before they may be used, but moody dwarves will ignore settings regarding [[economic stone]]. Press {{K|q}} and highlight the workshop to receive a series of clues about what the dwarf needs. Hints that stay active for longer than 2 seconds mean that multiple pieces of that material will be required; each single demand will be displayed for 2 seconds, so if it says "gems... shining" for 6 seconds, 3 gems are demanded. However, occasionally a hint shown for only 2 seconds will require more than one item to fulfill it; this behavior seems to occur mainly (only?) with the primary material (the base material of the artifact, and the first item gathered).{{Verify}} Materials will always be fetched ''in order'', so if at least one item has already been retrieved (the items will show up with "TSK" ("task") next to them when the workshop is viewed with the {{K|t}} context menu), it will usually be possible to tell what item is required next.

If you want your dwarves to construct their artifacts out of valuable materials instead of whatever useless thing happens to be close at hand, you can selectively forbid types of material through the stocks screen so that only the material you want them to use is available; though this might interfere with the normal crafting operations of your fortress, the disruption is generally short-lived (as long as you remember to unforbid them again afterwards!). You can even forbid something a moody dwarf is carrying (which may be necessary sometimes, since while they are not waiting in the workshop they will not tell you what they need); the dwarf will finish hauling it to the workshop, but then immediately go searching for another. This trick can mean the difference between a bauxite statue decorated with moss agates and a native platinum statue encrusted with diamonds. Be aware that this may not always work - see below for more information.

Burrows allow even better control over moody dwarf's material usage. Simply by creating a burrow around claimed workshop and another part over desired material, moody dwarf can be controlled without forbidding every single stone in fortress. A moody dwarf will follow the burrow-definitions just like a regular worker, but be mindful that they will not leave the burrow to get materials that are outside of their assigned burrow. A problem can arise when bones from an outside refuse stockpile are needed by a moody dwarf that is assigned to a burrow.

The various demands are translated here:

:{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:left;width:90%;"
|-
! Material
! Fey
! Secretive
! Possessed
|-
|
| <dwarf> screams "I must have <demand>!"
| <dwarf> sketches pictures of <demand>.
| <dwarf> mutters "<artifact> needs <demand>..."
|-
| [[Stone]]
| rock
| a quarry
| stone... rock
|-
| Stone/metal [[block]]s
| rock blocks
| square blocks
| blocks... bricks
|-
| [[Wood]]
| wood logs
| a forest
| tree... life
|-
| Metal [[bar]]
| metal bars
| shining bars of metal
| bars... metal
|-
| [[Gem]]s (cut)
| cut gems
| cut gems
| gems... shining
|-
| [[Gem]]s (raw)
| rough gems
| rough gems
| rough... color
|-
| Green [[glass]]
| raw green glass
| glass
| raw... green
|-
| Clear glass
| raw clear glass{{verify}}
| glass and burning wood
| raw... clear
|-
| Crystal glass
| raw crystal glass{{verify}}
| rough gems and glass
| raw... crystal
|-
| [[Bone]] [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=105002.0;topicseen stack] {{verify}}
| bones
| skeletons
| bones... yes
|-
| [[Shell]]{{verify}}
| shells
| shells
| a shell...
|-
| [[Leather]]
| tanned hides
| stacked leather
| leather... skin
|-
| [[Cloth]] (plant fiber)
| plant cloth
| stacked cloth
| cloth... thread
|-
| [[Cloth]] (silk)
| silk cloth
| stacked cloth
| cloth... thread
|-
| [[Cloth]] (yarn)
| yarn cloth
| stacked cloth
| cloth... thread
|-
| [[Skull]]{{verify}}
| body parts
| death
| a corpse
|}

Dwarves in macabre moods will list their demands in the same fashion as those in fey moods (though with them brooding "Yes. I need <item>." instead of screaming "I must have <item>!"). They may also say "Leave me. I need... things... certain things", in which case they want special items such as [[skull]]s or vermin [[remains]].

Related to the above behavior, moody dwarves demanding rock blocks will also accept blocks forged from metal bars.

*Moody metalworkers will demand their favorite type of metal as their artifact's primary material '''if''' you have smelted any bars of it - for secretive moods and possessions, take a look at the dwarf's material preferences to see which metal the dwarf wants to use. If you have any [[adamantine]] wafers available, then they will demand that instead.
*Moody clothiers and weavers who have a preference for any type of plant fiber cloth, silk, or yarn will demand that generic type (e.g. a dwarf that likes cave spider silk will require ''any'' type of silk). If you have any [[adamantine]] cloth available, then they will demand that instead.
*Moody glassmakers will demand their preferred type of glass, but only if you've actually produced some of it - if not, they will randomly select one type of glass you've produced. Acquiring raw glass from a caravan does '''not''' count as producing it.
*Moody bone carvers will demand shells if they like a type of shell; if not, they will demand bones.
*Moody gem cutters and gem setters have a chance of only gathering a single rough gem and nothing else, producing a perfect gem with a single decoration.

Once all materials have been gathered, viewing the workshop with {{K|q}} will display a special message depending on the type of mood:
* Fey - "<dwarf> works furiously!"
* Secretive - "<dwarf> works secretly..."
* Possessed - "<dwarf> keeps muttering <artifact>..."
* Macabre - "<dwarf> works, darkly brooding..."
* Fell - "<dwarf> works with menacing fury!"

== The mechanics of moods ==

=== Frequency===
When a fortress is started, an internal counter is set to 1000. Every 100 frames (12 times per day), this counter is decremented by 1, running down to zero in about 3 months. When the counter would ordinarily be decremented when it has already reached zero, there is a 1 in 500 chance that a strange mood will strike. This means that, once all conditions are met and the clock is ticking, while there is approximately a 2.4% chance of a strange mood per day, or ''very approximately'' a 50% chance of a strange mood per month, there is no guarantee when a mood will strike - might be sooner, might be (almost) never.

=== Conditions ===
In order for a dwarf to be struck with a strange mood, three conditions must be met:
:* There is no currently active strange mood,
:* The maximum number of artifacts is not met,
:* There are at least 20 eligible dwarves ''(see below)'', including dwarves who have already created artifacts.

If all three of these conditions are true, the game may trigger a strange mood according to the frequency.

==== Maximum number of artifacts ====
The maximum number of artifacts in any one fortress is limited by the lower of:
* The number of items created divided by 100.1 Mined-out rock '''does''' count as an "item created", though it is not clear whether bolts or units of drink are counted individually.
* The number of revealed [[subterranean]] tiles divided by 2304 (this is an area equivalent to a 48x48 square). Once you discover and explore the [[cavern]]s and [[magma sea]], this limit becomes largely irrelevant, and using a [[utilities#DFHack|"reveal" utility]] will eliminate it altogether.
:1 - actually the sum of all items by type '''and''' by type+subtype+material, divided by 200. Furthermore, destroying items does '''not''' decrement these counters, so casting and mining [[obsidian]] will count toward this.

==== Eligibility ====
The deciding factor for eligibility is a dwarf's actual [[profession]]. ''(Note that "[[Skill#Custom profession labels|custom professions]]" have no effect on this!)'' Thus, dwarves may enter strange moods regardless of what skills they have or don't have, so long as they are of an acceptable profession. Dwarves who have already created an artifact are not eligible to create another, and since every mood ends in either an artifact or death, every dwarf may enter at most one mood. Dwarves who have obtained one or more legendary skills without creating artifacts '''may''' enter strange moods and will simply become even ''more'' legendary.

Dwarves with a [[Soldier#Soldier professions|military profession]] other than "Recruit" '''cannot''' enter moods. Incidental military skills make no difference - eligibility (and weighting) depends purely on the actual ''[[profession]]'' as listed at the time, so soldiers '''can''' enter moods if they are ''off duty'' and thus in Civilian mode. Children may enter moods, but babies will not.

Any other profession is eligible to enter a mood, but not all have the same ''chance'' to enter a mood...

:''('''Note''' - Specifically, and to avoid previous misunderstandings, [[Strand extractor]], [[Clerk]]/[[Administrator]]/[[Trader]], [[Doctor]] (and related), [[Building designer|Architect]], [[Soldier#Recruits|Recruit]] and [[Child]] '''are''' moodable professions.)''

There are several additional factors which will prevent a dwarf from entering a mood:
* Being unable to pick up items ("cannot grasp")
* Being dragged by another unit (off to [[jail]])
* Dragging another unit (leading livestock to a [[cage]], [[chain]], [[pasture]], [[Activity zone#Pit/Pond|pit/pond zone]], or to the [[butcher's shop]])

=== Chance ===
When determining who will have a strange mood, each eligible dwarf is put into a weighted lottery. The odds are assigned a higher or lower weight based on the dwarf's [[profession]]. The default weight is 6, but some professions are more likely to enter a strange mood than others. (This is like most dwarves getting 6 tickets to the lottery, and others getting more.)

{| class="wikitable" cellspacing="0" border="2" cellpadding="5"
|-
! Weighting
! Professions

|-
| 21 ||Armorer, Blacksmith, Bone Carver, Clothier, Craftsdwarf, Jeweler, Gem Cutter, Gem Setter, Glassmaker, Leatherworker, Metalcrafter, Metalsmith, Stonecrafter, Weaponsmith, Weaver, Woodcrafter
|-
| 11 ||Bowyer, Carpenter, Stoneworker, Mason, Woodworker
|-
| 6 ||Engraver, Mechanic, Miner, Tanner, & all other [[profession]]s (including Peasant).

|}

:'''''Example:''' What this means is: if you had 21 dwarves, made up of 20 eligible farmers, furnace operators, miners, woodcutters etc. (with 6 chances each) plus one Armorer (with 21 chances), that one Armorer would have a 21 in 141 chance (20 dwarves x 6 chances each = 120 + 21 chances more = 141 total) of the mood striking them. That's about 1 in 7, while the other 20 have a 6 in 141 chance each, or about 1 in 24. The odds are still against the armorer, but much better than for any other single dwarf.''

Note that not every profession is from a moodable skill. A Soaper, Architect, Furnace Operator or Strand Extractor can be taken by a mood, but that will not make those skills legendary, nor will they create an artifact bar of soap, building, bar of metal or wafer of adamantine.

=== Skills and workshops ===

{| class="wikitable sortable" cellpadding="4" style="border:1px solid black;border-collapse:collapse;text-align:left;float:right;margin:0 0 20px 30px;vertical-align:top;"
|-
! Highest skill
! Workshop required
|-
| [[Armorsmith]]
| [[Metalsmith's forge]] (or [[Magma forge]])
|-
| [[Bone carver]]
| [[Craftsdwarf's workshop]]
|-
| [[Bowyer]]
| [[Bowyer's workshop]]
|-
| [[Carpenter]]
| [[Carpenter's workshop]]
|-
| [[Clothier]]
| [[Clothier's shop]]
|-
| [[Engraver]]
| [[Craftsdwarf's workshop]]
|-
| [[Gem cutter]]
| [[Jeweler's workshop]]
|-
| [[Gem setter]]
| [[Jeweler's workshop]]
|-
| [[Glassmaker]]
| [[Glass furnace]] (or [[Magma glass furnace]])
|-
| [[Leatherworker]]
| [[Leather works]]
|-
| [[Mason]]
| [[Mason's workshop]]
|-
| [[Mechanic]]
| [[Mechanic's workshop]]
|-
| [[Metal crafter]]
| [[Metalsmith's forge]] (or [[Magma forge]])
|-
| [[Metalsmith]]
| [[Metalsmith's forge]] (or [[Magma forge]])
|-
| [[Miner]]
| [[Mason's workshop]]
|-
| [[Stone crafter]]
| [[Craftsdwarf's workshop]]
|-
| [[Tanner]]
| [[Leather works]]
|-
| [[Weaponsmith]]
| [[Metalsmith's forge]] (or [[Magma forge]])
|-
| [[Weaver]]
| [[Clothier's shop]]
|-
| [[Wood crafter]]
| [[Craftsdwarf's workshop]]
|-
| <none>
| [[Craftsdwarf's workshop]]
|}

A dwarf will claim a workshop according to their highest applicable skill, and upon completion of the artifact, gain 20,000 [[experience]] in that skill (excepting [[Strange mood#Possessed|possessed]] dwarves). This will give the dwarf a legendary-level [[skill]] (specifically, "legendary+1" or higher, depending on the dwarf's initial skill level). The table to the right describes all applicable skills and their potential workshop requirements - there are only 20 skills that determine the workshop and that can be affected by a mood (sometimes referred to as '''moodable''' skills.) If a dwarf does not possess at least one of the moodable skills listed to the right, they will take over a [[craftsdwarf's workshop]] and gain one of [[bone carver]], [[stone crafter]], or [[wood crafter]] skills, producing an artifact [[craft]].

This fact can be utilized to maximize the possibility of getting a dwarf with the specific legendary skill you want: since ''non''-moodable skills are ignored, whenever possible make sure that each dwarf's highest ''moodable'' skill is one of those you want*. Have all your peasants, [[farmer]]s, non-professional military and other dwarves without any moodable skills do a tiny bit of work in the skill(s) you most want; if a "[[experience|dabbling]]" skill is the highest moodable skill they have, that is the skill that will be used.

[[Weaponsmith]], [[Armorsmith]], [[Bowyer]], [[Leatherworker]], [[Clothier]], and [[Mechanic]] are the only skills that provide a uniquely beneficial item other than an extremely valuable trinket or piece of furniture. Note that artifact furniture is useful for increasing [[room value]].

== Artifacts created ==
The type of artifact created depends on the type of mood, the dwarf's highest moodable skill, and the base material. Masons and miners will always create some kind of stone furniture; bone carvers, a bone or shell object (including furniture); carpenters, a piece of wooden furniture; engravers and stone crafters, a stone craft; metalworkers, metal crafts, weapons, or armor (depending on the type of metalworker); weavers and clothiers, an article of clothing; tanners and leatherworkers, a leather armor or object. If a dwarf has no moodable skills, they will randomly select stone crafting, wood crafting, or bone carving as their mood skill and produce their artifact accordingly. The precise type of craft created is usually somewhat random, but if a dwarf has a personality preference for a particular thing, such as gauntlets or floodgates or crowns, and that thing is an available choice given the dwarf's profession, they are guaranteed to create an object of that type (if multiple preferences match, one will be randomly selected).

The first object grabbed by the dwarf will be the base material; all other materials will be used as [[decoration]]s. If a dwarf grabs a piece of [[chalk]] and makes a statue, for instance, it will be a "chalk statue", but an artifact can potentially include bone, cloth, gems, leather, metal, shell, stone, and wood decorations all at once. In some cases, a moody dwarf will produce an item which normally cannot be made from that material, leading to such odd constructions as an [[obsidian]] [[bed]], [[ruby]] [[floodgate]], or turtle [[shell]] [[cage]], but the actual item types available for each mood type are still very much restricted (e.g. only a glassmaker or jeweler can make a [[window]], and a moody clothier cannot produce an article of clothing that could not normally be made from cloth).

{| class="wikitable" cellpadding="4" style="border:1px solid black;border-collapse:collapse;text-align:left;"
|-
! Mood / Skill
! Artifact type
|-
| [[Armorsmith]]
| Mail shirt, breastplate, leggings, greaves, gauntlet, low boot, high boot, cap, helm, mask, any shield
|-
| [[Bone carver]] (bone)
| Leggings, greaves, gauntlet, helm, any shield, instrument, toy, door, bed, chair, table, statue, coffer, bin, armor stand, weapon rack, cabinet, coffin, floodgate, hatch cover, grate, chain, cage, animal trap, figurine, amulet, scepter, crown, ring, earring, bracelet, any weapon, any trap component†
|-
| [[Bone carver]] (shell)
| Leggings, gauntlet, helm, figurine, amulet, crown, ring, earring, bracelet, chain, cage, animal trap, instrument, toy
|-
| [[Bowyer]]
| Crossbow, bow, blowgun
|-
| [[Carpenter]]
| Door, bed, chair, table, statue, chest, bin, armor stand, weapon rack, cabinet, coffin, floodgate, hatch cover, grate, cage, barrel, bucket, animal trap, splint, crutch
|-
| [[Clothier]]
| rowspan=2| Dress, shirt, tunic, toga, vest, robe, coat, cloak, cape, trousers, loincloth, thong, short skirt, skirt, long skirt, braies, glove, mitten, sock, sandal, shoe, chausses, cap, hood, mask, turban, head veil, face veil, headscarf, bag, rope
|-
| [[Weaver]]
|-
| [[Engraver]]
| Figurine, amulet, scepter, crown, ring, earring, bracelet, goblet, instrument, toy
|-
| Fell Mood
| rowspan=3| Dress, shirt, tunic, toga, vest, robe, coat, cloak, cape, armor, trousers, loincloth, thong, short skirt, skirt, long skirt, braies, leggings, glove, mitten, sock, sandal, shoe, chausses, low boot, high boot, cap, hood, mask, turban, head veil, face veil, headscarf, helm, any shield, bag, backpack, quiver, instrument
|-
| [[Leatherworker]]
|-
| [[Tanner]]
|-
| [[Gem cutter]]
| rowspan=3| Door, bed, chair, table, statue, box, armor stand, weapon rack, cabinet, coffin, floodgate, hatch cover, grate, figurine, amulet, scepter, crown, ring, earring, bracelet, chain, flask, goblet, cage, barrel, bucket, animal trap, window, instrument, toy
|-
| [[Gem setter]]
|-
| [[Glassmaker]]
|-
| Macabre Mood (vermin remains)
| Amulet, bracelet, earring
|-
| [[Mason]]
| rowspan=2| Door, bed, chair, table, statue, quern, millstone, coffer, armor stand, weapon rack, cabinet, coffin, floodgate, hatch cover, grate
|-
| [[Miner]]
|-
| [[Mechanic]]
| Mechanism
|-
| [[Metal crafter]]
| Figurine, amulet, scepter, crown, ring, earring, bracelet, chain, flask, goblet, instrument, toy
|-
| [[Metalsmith]]
| Door, bed, chair, table, statue, coffer, armor stand, weapon rack, cabinet, anvil, coffin, floodgate, hatch cover, grate, cage, barrel, bucket, animal trap, pipe section†, splint, crutch
|-
| [[Stone crafter]]
| Figurine, amulet, scepter, crown, ring, earring, bracelet, goblet, instrument, toy
|-
| [[Weaponsmith]]
| Any weapon, any trap component†
|-
| [[Wood crafter]]
| Figurine, amulet, scepter, crown, ring, earring, bracelet, goblet, instrument, toy
|}
:† ''chance of selection for this entry is reduced by 90%''

If your dwarf does not have a preference for any possible items, the game will randomly select one from the list. Entries with "any" are treated as collective entries with a single chance, and only include items your civilization is capable of making. This explains why bowyers and clothiers will regularly produce foreign artifacts, while weaponsmiths will not.

== Success ==
Once created, most [[artifact]]s will be available for use just like a normal item of its type. Artifact [[armor]] and [[weapon]]s gain extra bonuses in combat, while artifact clothing is immune to [[wear]]. Artifact furniture is useful for raising the value of a [[noble]]'s room. Artifact mechanisms, trap components, or weapons in [[weapon trap|weapon trap]]s can also boost a room's value considerably. Other artifacts that can be used in construction (such as [[barrel]]s, [[bucket]]s, and [[anvil]]s) may be used similarly. Artifact [[door]]s and [[hatch]]es are immune to [[building destroyer]]s. Artifact crafts are currently useless.

Successfully creating an artifact grants a very strong happy [[thought]], enough to make the creator totally ecstatic for several months, as well as granting the creator partial ''immunity to insanity'' - even if your fortress enters a [[tantrum]] spiral, any dwarf who has created an artifact is exempt from going [[insane]] due to prolonged unhappiness.

== Failure ==
If you can't provide the desired workshop and all the required component materials within a couple of months, the dwarf will go [[insanity|insane]], which cancels the mood and the artifact. As if that's not bad enough, any dwarf who goes insane will soon die, one way or another.

A dwarf who is '''stark raving mad''' or '''melancholy''' is harmless to others (until they die and start a [[tantrum]] spiral), but a '''berserk''' dwarf will attack other dwarves and possibly pull levers at random. You may want to station a squad nearby or assign a few war dogs to the dwarf on the chance that they will lash out. If you build your workshops inside enclosed rooms with doors you can also lock the moody dwarf in the room until he or she starves. In extreme cases, building a wall around an open workshop is the best precaution.

{{Category|Dwarves}}

v0.34 Talk:Thought

2013-07-03T21:44:16Z

0x517A5D: /* Answered: Many thoughts are now missing */

--Saw the thought "admired own fine, tastefully arranged, statue lately". Tastefully arranged is a new one to me.
Anyone know how or why it arises? [[User:Headjack|Headjack]] 04:43, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
:[[Sculpture garden]]. All furniture within is considered "tastefully arranged". I'm assuming it was assigned to that dwarf as well given the "own" modifier. -- [[User:Qazmlpok|Qazmlpok]] 14:43, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Animal Trainers can get a [http://i47.tinypic.com/5ezexe.png (good?) thought] from [http://i48.tinypic.com/33eiyjq.png forming a relationship] with the animals. I have no idea how it happens, only one out of multiple trainers has done this. Checking something... added "He has lost an animal training partner to tragedy recently" and dropped mood from ecstatic to happy after slaughtering one.--[[Special:Contributions/98.232.209.203|98.232.209.203]] 09:44, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

== Many thoughts are now missing ==

This page's new look is great, but I am surprised to see that several thoughts have been removed unaccountably. (Compare the current revision of this page with an older one, such as [http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=DF2012:Thought&oldid=186325]). What is the reason for this?
[[User:Pie Maker|Pie Maker]] ([[User talk:Pie Maker|talk]]) 16:03, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
:The page explicitly says it's a selection of common thoughts, and references a complete [[List of Dwarven Thoughts]]. (Note that the older revision you referenced only listed 90-odd thoughts, not all 225 that the [[Utility:DFHack|DFHack utility]] knows about.) —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] ([[User talk:0x517A5D|talk]]) 21:44, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

User talk:Quietust

2012-06-17T18:44:24Z

0x517A5D: /* Comments; Quietust Talk */

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Past discussion are archived here: [[User talk:Quietust/archive|1]]

==Comments==
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=== Would My Username Be Rejected? ===
I was reading the [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] page, and was rather dismayed by all of the spammer usernames signing up, then being blocked. I do appreciate your hard work. It must feel like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sysiphus Sysiphus' labor] sometimes.

But then it occurred to me... My name looks like a spammer's! If I signed up today, would I be blocked immediately? —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 18:44, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

===Registration Spam===
Q, methinks the method shown under "Comment Spam defeated at last" on Steve Hanov's Blog stevehanov.ca would save you a lot of work.
*You're talking to the wrong person - tell this to Briess or Emi. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 13:09, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

===Blocking===
You always beat me to the punch! sadface --23:30, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

===More spammer blocking===
I see that in the last few batches of spammer blocking, [[User talk:KidsShoes|KidsShoes]] and [[User talk:DypeniWang|DypeniWang]], who I reported on May 8, were not included. Is there a better way to make these reports than on [[Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Spamreport]]? Or should I continue placing a note here if the first report doesn't work? --[[User:Cali|Cali]] 23:12, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
:I've just reported [[User talk:Harry123|Harry123]] and noticed that my previous two reports on [[User talk:Justinakmw7640|Justinakmw7640]] and [[User talk:FixToolbox|FixToolbox]] have fallen through the cracks. --[[User:Cali|Cali]] 01:22, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

===Blocking Vroomvroom1970===
I've reported [[User talk:Vroomvroom1970|Vroomvroom1970]] twice for spam on [[Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Spamreport]] at or near the same time as two other spamming users. While the other users were blocked ([[User talk:MikePlane1971|MikePlane1971]] and [[User talk:Meetcheese123|Meetcheese123]]), [[User talk:Vroomvroom1970|Vroomvroom1970]] has been overlooked both times, so I thought leaving a message here might work. --[[User:Cali|Cali]] 01:21, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

===Clean up some deleted pages===
Hey Quietust, you seem to be the most active admin around. Could you look into deleting some of the pages currently marked for deletion? Most of them are obsolete, outdated, or otherwise superfluous. Thanks! [[User:Dree12|Dree12]] 00:23, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

===Creaturelookup/0 and Creaturedesc templates===
There seems to be an issue with the [[Template:Creaturelookup/0]] and/or [[Template:Creaturedesc]] and how they interact with the [[Giant badger]] and [[v0.31:Giant badger]] articles. I have no idea how they work so I can't really fix them myself, and I thought you might be able to help since I noticed you created them. --[[User:Reilwin|Reilwin]] 01:28, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
:It's the same problem that affected the [[giant eagle]] - the raw file contains some extended ASCII characters encoded in Latin-1, but the wiki is expecting them to be UTF-8 and is choking on them. It'll be fixed once Emily updates the raws on the wiki servers. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 01:37, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
::How should they be handled then? Remove the templates so the users can read what's present or leave it in there until the update? --[[User:Reilwin|Reilwin]] 02:15, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

===See Bot request===
Please see my request under bot requests, I believe you may have overlooked it. I would appreciate a response.
--[[User:Reilwin|Reilwin]] 22:42, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

===Gravitates/animal men===
Adjusted size of animal men per what you said, but token on token page doesn't quite say the same thing. Are adult animal men 70k regardless of size of animal?--[[User:Vasiln|Vasiln]] 20:16, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
===DFRawFunctions===
I noticed that [[DF2012:Giant eagle]] was completely blank the other day, and have deduced that the problem lies in the following line used as part of a template on the /raw page:

<nowiki>{{#df_raw:DF2012:creature_birds_new.txt|CREATURE|GIANT_EAGLE|not found}}</nowiki>

I don't know why, but wherever this line is placed, it makes the entire page blank. Template calls on the giant eagle page have been commented out for now, so there's at least something visible on the page. I'm sure you know better than me what might cause this, the only thing I can see out of the ordinary here is some sponsorship text in the .txt right after the entry for giant eagles. Thanks for all you do around here! --[[Special:Contributions/74.105.187.80|74.105.187.80]] 08:05, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
*Read the [[DF2012 talk:Giant eagle|talk page]] - I already know exactly what the problem is and how to fix it. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 12:35, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

===Re:DFRawFunctions===
Pulled. I'll think up a way to make the process a little more automated. [[user:Emi|Emi]] [[user_talk:Emi|[T]]] 22:30, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

===Error submiting updates to DF2012:Creatures===
I have some more changes to make to the Creatures page, but when I try submitting them I get a blank page and no change is made to the page. Is this a problem with the server/page too big, or did I trip some anti-spamer protection with my series of edits? [[User:Organised chaos|Organised chaos]] 14:11, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

===Re: Stuff===
Gonna go do it right now. [[user:Emi|Emi]] [[user_talk:Emi|[T]]] 21:59, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
===Good job===
Wiki update looks good - thanks for putting in the time to make it happen.--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 23:29, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
=== A new list ===
Im a newbie at editing wiki's and what im looking for is a list of objects that cant be placed on the edge of the map (like the trade depot) Can you help me make such a page if one dosent already exist? [[Special:Contributions/97.103.243.208|97.103.243.208]] 18:28, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

=== Frostbite ===
Is it a good idea to report [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=DF2010:Climate&curid=17187&diff=153614&oldid=153613 this] as a bug? [[User:Kogut|Kogut]] 10:22, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
:Wouldn't hurt, though there might already be a more general report for the other assorted problems with organic materials (e.g. body fat melting at 110°F, muscle/organs not taking heat damage until 282°F even though they'd have been thoroughly overcooked by then). --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 13:13, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

===Creature Logic + diagrams===
Thanks for the edits to creature logic. It's probably not obvious, but I made an effort to use a preferred format, and all I found was [[Template:RT]] linked to from the community portal page, so I tried to imitate the example given on that page. If there is a preferred method, maybe someone (lol "someone," although really I'd be happy to do it if I knew enough/was important enough) can make a page and link the community portal to it rather than [[Template:RT]]? Might save you from some future tedium, unless of course you enjoy those kind of edits.

Also curious-- I don't know anything about electronics or computing, but I find myself distinguishing between half and full signals (or full and double signals, if you'd prefer-- opens vs open-closes) all the time. Within the electronics metaphor, are there appropriate words to distinguish between these two kinds of signals? That is, if an edge detector detects an "edge" signal, what kind of signal does it transmit?[[User:Vasiln|Vasiln]] 00:14, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
:There isn't really a difference between the signal types, just how you react to them - a level-sensitive trigger does one thing if the signal is on and another thing if the signal is off, while an edge-sensitive trigger does one thing when the signal '''changes''' from off->on and a different thing when the signal changes from on->off. See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interrupt#Types_of_Interrupts this article] for more information. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 02:53, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

===Most annoying bugs===
Just curious what bugs are on the top of your list? I haven't played in several months, waiting for certain bugs to be fixed. I got the military to mostly work (besides all the labors being reset) so that wasn't a big deal. I think all the little bugs added up for me. --[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 17:21, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
:I've reported over a hundred bugs on the tracker and 82 of them are still open, some more serious than others. If I had to name the most annoying ones I've reported myself, they'd be: "Missing nobles (dungeon master, tax collector, etc.)", "Swimming FBs don't bother getting out of the water", "Soldiers equip golden salve vials as waterskins", "Caravan pack animals stand on top of floor hatches over ramps", "Building destroyers destroy floor grates over open space", "Caravans don't bring wagons", and "Siege trolls lag the game to hell"; for ones others have reported, "Soldiers don't eat/drink while stationed", "Flowing water pushes items into hammerspace", "Magma kills things WAY too slowly", "Dwarves don't wear new clothes", "Dwarves give water to dwarves already drinking from booze barrels" + "Dwarves leave water buckets lying all over the fortress" + "Dwarves use water buckets when making lye", "Metalsmithing jobs only use one bar", and "Gem items don't get stockpiled". I don't mind the "Humans have no guild representatives", "Elves have no diplomats", and "You can't make crystal glass" bugs, since I've fixed all of them myself. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 20:22, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
::I know you've reported a lot, which is great. I've only reported 12, 7 still open. Did you figure out a workaround for the missing nobles? I noticed you were doing a lot of research on that area. How does "Soldiers don't eat/drink while stationed" affect you? The dwarfs leaving their food to rot all over? I don't let my military carry ratios. My soldiers do get a bad thought, but the happiness system is pretty out of wack now, so all they have to do is dine in a nice place and they're in heaven! I agree that the buckets coupled to the healthcare is a hassle. That and the transporting of barrels to the depot. Metalsmithing jobs only using one bar is a balancing issue, so it doesn't bother me much. I just reviewed my watch list and others that bother me are "Items are hauled to bins before the bins are installed into the correct stockpile." "Dwarves choose far-away stones instead of nearby ones", "Civilians assigned to burrows while hauling something spam "dropoff inaccessible"", not being able to toggle the usability of obsidian, and "Equipment mismatch error message means nothing". That last one makes setting up a military a bit tough. Those would have to be the most annoying to me. Sometimes I really miss the 40d days. I tried going back, but all the keys are different and it is too frustrating.--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 23:56, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
:::The "soldiers don't eat/drink while stationed" bug causes soldiers to just get increasingly hungry/thirsty when on patrol duty, and hungry/thirsty dwarves get skill penalties and are presumably more likely to get injured. I forgot about the "dropoff inaccessible spam" one, though I was afflicted with the "item inaccessible" variant (when the stockpile is inside the burrow but the item isn't), and I also find the economic obsidian bug mildly irritating (though you only need to fix it once in the entire lifetime of your fortress). I don't consider the "hauling bins" and "distant stones" ones to be real bugs, just design flaws (which I'm pretty sure were also present in 40d and probably even 23a). Of course, I've just now remembered another very irritating issue: multiple soldiers being assigned the same piece of equipment, usually a named item. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 00:07, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
::::That is funny. So many of the "bugs" influence the way I play the game. Because of the bugs, I gave up on burrows being useful. Thus all the bugs with burrows don't bother me. The concept is really powerful, but how to implement it without the bugs hobbling it! I also don't use most fo the military options (like food/water, patrol duties, stations) and instead have train/no train schedules. I find it funny when dwarfs carry around 3 weapons, or the enraged badgers. I agree the distant stones and hauling bins are design flaws, but they are annoying when you notice a bunch of dwarves traverse 80 Z levels to take something to a bin, only to arrive and find the bin has been now moved to 80Z levels down! It would also be nice to be able to save military uniforms as well (like embark profiles). Does the fact that the order of items in the trade item list changes bother you or have you figured out a workaround for that?--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 16:25, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

==Bot Requests==
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=== DF:2012 Namespace ===
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::I believe you might have been the one who created the bot which handled the versioning namespace change. I posted on [[User_talk:Emi|Emi's discussion page]] but have yet to receive a response.
::I'd like to suggest the following change to the bot for any future namespace changes, although this might be futile if the bot lacks the relevant privileges.
::For every article moved to a previous version namespace, create a new article in the new namespace with the <nowiki>{{av}}</nowiki> tag so that users can (1) see that it hasn't been updated and (2) have an easy link to the outdated article so they at least have something too look up. It would also make it easier for normal editors to update the new articles since they've already been created.

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v0.34 Talk:Strange mood

2012-05-14T13:27:02Z

0x517A5D: /* Fell Moods */

Does anyone know if the murder during a fell mood will now be reportet as crime and taken legal actions against it? --[[User:Kami|Kami]] 09:45, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

==Produced Items==
Through a bit of disassembly diving, I've determined exactly what moody dwarves are capable of producing. All items have a weight of '100' except when indicated otherwise, and entries with "each" occur as individual items with their own weight, while "any" are a single entry with a collective weight:
;Weaponsmith
:Any weapon, any trap component (weight 10, so 1/11 chance)
;Armorsmith
:Each metal-allowed body armor, each metal-allowed pants, each metal-allowed gloves, each metal-allowed shoes, each metal-allowed helm, any shield
;Metalsmith
:Door, bed, chair, table, statue, coffer, armor stand, weapon rack, cabinet, anvil, coffin, floodgate, hatch cover, grate, cage, barrel, bucket, animal trap, pipe section (weight 10, so 1/201 chance), splint, crutch
;Metal crafter
:Figurine, amulet, scepter, crown, ring, earring, bracelet, chain, flask, goblet, instrument, toy
;Jeweler or Glassmaker
:Door, bed, chair, table, statue, box, armor stand, weapon rack, cabinet, coffin, floodgate, hatch cover, grate, figurine, amulet, scepter, crown, ring, earring, bracelet, chain, flask, goblet, cage, barrel, bucket, animal trap, window, instrument, toy
;Mason or Miner
:Door, bed, chair, table, statue, quern, millstone, coffer, armor stand, weapon rack, cabinet, coffin, floodgate, hatch cover, grate
;Stone crafter, Wood crafter, or Engraver
:Figurine, amulet, scepter, crown, ring, earring, bracelet, goblet, instrument, toy
;Mechanic
:Mechanism
;Carpenter
:Door, bed, chair, table, statue, chest, bin, armor stand, weapon rack, cabinet, coffin, floodgate, hatch cover, grate, cage, barrel, bucket, animal trap, splint, crutch
;Bowyer
:Each ranged weapon
;Leatherworker or Fell Mood
:Each leather-allowed body armor, each leather-allowed pants, each leather-allowed gloves, each leather-allowed shoes, each leather-allowed helm, any shield, bag, backpack, quiver, instrument
;Bone carver
:Each bone-allowed body armor, each bone-allowed pants, each bone-allowed gloves, each bone-allowed shoes, each bone-allowed helm, any shield, instrument, toy, door, bed, chair, table, statue, coffer, bin, armor stand, weapon rack, cabinet, coffin, floodgate, hatch cover, grate, chain, cage, animal trap, figurine, amulet, scepter, crown, ring, earring, bracelet, any weapon, any trap component (weight 10, so REALLY low chances)
;Macabre mood claiming vermin remains as primary item
:Amulet, bracelet, earring
;Clothier
:Each soft-allowed body armor, each soft-allowed pants, each soft-allowed gloves, each soft-allowed shoes, each soft-allowed helm, bag, rope
--[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 16:23, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
:Are you certain that weaponsmith moods can lead to exotic weapons? I've seen bowyers make exotic weapons, but I've never seen, not even in somebody's screenshot, an exotic melee weapon. -- [[User:Vasiln|Vasiln]] 00:38, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
::According to the code, it simply adds WEAPON:NONE as a possibility for weaponsmith moods - my guess is that it then goes through the same logic as with normal item creation to select a random subtype within the constraints of the current civilization. Moody bowyers explicitly permit each ranged weapon type, which is why 2/3 of all boywer moods give either a bow or a blowgun (unless, presumably, the dwarf had a preference for a particular type). --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 21:53, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

==Fell Moods==
Page currently says other dwarves don't mind when a fell mood dwarf kills somebody. This is wrong. I am on 34.07, just got a fell mood dwarf, he murdered a farmer in the food stockpile and I received 28 witness reports that he was the murderer. I convicted him and he was beaten. --[[User:Jimi12|Jimi12]]

I've also seen this. --[[Special:Contributions/99.20.91.212|99.20.91.212]] 04:54, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

:So fix it. That sentence is ''at least'' 4½ years old. It was added to the .40d article on November 1, 2007, and that edit is labelled as being a 'copy from the archive wiki'. I'm not surprised that it's wrong. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 13:27, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

== Adamantine cloth ==

Clothiers sometimes use not only plant/silk/yarn cloth, but woven adamantine too. [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=87753.0 An example.] 17:53, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Administrative intervention against vandalism

2011-11-07T21:42:43Z

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==Reports==

Reporting user [[User:DivinaLittlefield|DivinaLittlefield]] for a number of edits. - [[User:Knight Otu|Knight Otu]] 20:46, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
:Concur, 3 more edits by [[User:DivinaLittlefield|DivinaLittlefield]] around 21:00 today. Invisible direct and redirection links to a site hawking weight control. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 21:42, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Reporting users [[User:Shushu|Shushu]], [[User:Liliyuan|Liliyuan]], [[User:Smalltrees|Smalltrees]], and [[User:Bingbingyuan|Bingbingyuan]] for user tallk page spam. - [[User:Knight Otu|Knight Otu]] 09:07, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Reporting user Ameriplan - bunch of spammy stuff in User talk:Ameriplan
[[Special:Contributions/194.200.65.239|194.200.65.239]] 11:25, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Reporting user [[User talk:Aiai00125|Aiai00125]] for [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=Dwarf_Fortress_Wiki:Centralized_Discussion&curid=14457&diff=153375&oldid=153097 this edit to the Centralized discussion page]. The user's talk page also contains linkage spam. -- [[User:Khym Chanur|Khym Chanur]] 03:45, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
:Also on [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=23a:Creature_small_mammals.txt&curid=15135&diff=153376&oldid=102951 23a:Creature_small_mammals.txt]. Both vandalized pages are reverted.
:[[User:Knight Otu|Knight Otu]] 11:22, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Reporting user [[User:AWurth93|AWurth93]] for this [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=Consolidated_Development:_Arcs,_core-items,_bloats,_Reqs_and_Powergoals&curid=17308&diff=153356&oldid=149506]. Yep, there's at least one link in that mess. - [[User:Knight Otu|Knight Otu]] 16:17, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Reporting user [[User:JBinkley89|JBinkley89]] for this [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Strange_mood] wait. I think this list is actually the same as Sgragg88's. -- [[User:RedHerring|Redherring]] 7:59 23/09/2011 GMT+2 (First time editing, sorry for the mess)
:I would suggest looking into users [[User:AWurth93|AWurth93]] and [[User:EKruse55|EKruse55]]. Their names follow the same pattern as Binkley and Gragg - if they are spam accounts then like those, they are probably to lie dormant for a few days before they start their spam.
:[[User:Knight Otu|Knight Otu]] 12:40, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Reporting user [[User:SGragg88|SGragg88]] for this [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=DF2010:Water_wheel&diff=153193&oldid=prev edit], this [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=40d:String_dump&diff=153194&oldid=prev edit], this [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=40d:Weapon_token&diff=153195&oldid=prev edit], and this [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=DF2010:Creature_token&diff=153196&oldid=prev edit]. I'd be remiss to not include this [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=40d:Lead&diff=153197&oldid=prev edit], this [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=40d:Advanced_world_generation&diff=153198&oldid=prev edit], this [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=23a:Weapon_token&diff=153199&oldid=prev edit], or this [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=40d:Armor&diff=153200&oldid=prev edit]. And who could forget such classics as this [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=40d:Strange_mood&diff=153201&oldid=prev edit], this [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=40d:Armor_user&diff=153202&oldid=prev edit], this [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=DF2010:Release_information&diff=153203&oldid=prev edit], and everbody's favorite: this [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=Caravans&diff=153204&oldid=prev edit]? But wait! There's more! This [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=DF2010:Strange_mood&diff=153205&oldid=152796 edit] free with purchase! --[[User:Jwest23|Jwest23]] 21:00, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Reporting user [[Special:Contributions/75.163.224.80|75.163.224.80]] for this [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=DF2010:Adventure_mode_quick_start&curid=18784&diff=152872&oldid=152303 edit] --[[User:Cali|Cali]] 04:20, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
:At Wikipedia we'd call that a "test edit" - most likely the first ever wiki edit by a young person who didn't quite believe they could change the internet. My bet is that there won't be any further disruption from that IP address, so no administrator action is required. [[User:Bognor|Bognor]] 14:56, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
:: I tend to agree here. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 07:06, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Pre-emptive, but I'm guessing the following are not genuine new-user registrations... 
(User creation log); 09:14 . . Download Love That Girl! - Season One 1080p movie New user account 
(User creation log); 08:44 . . Download 60 Minutes Australia - 2011 Full movie New user account 
[[Special:Contributions/194.200.65.239|194.200.65.239]] 10:29, 10 August 2011 (UTC) 
#Reporting IP Address 124.6.181.189 for an [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=DF2010:Soil&oldid=152086 edit] which I have reverted. --[[User:Jwest23|Jwest23]] 16:03, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
#Reporting IP Address 124.6.181.183 for an [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=DF2010:Soil&diff=prev&oldid=151941 edit] which I have reverted. --[[User:Jwest23|Jwest23]] 19:05, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
#Reporting user [[User_talk:Jose|Jose]] for an [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=DF2010:Nail&oldid=151747 edit] which I have reverted. --[[User:Jwest23|Jwest23]] 18:06, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

There was a link insertion at [[Talk:Main_Page/Quote/archive1]] by an anonymous IP. I undid it, not sure if other measures need to be taken.
[[User:Knight Otu|Knight Otu]] 19:10, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

There was a vandalism at "http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Ruin". -- Dragongutz
:No there wasn't - the article history clearly indicates that the article has '''never''' had any content. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 21:41, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

reporting user [[User:Jalohear]] [[http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=135938 link]]
:Interestingly, that user (and 2 others) signed up over a week ago and sat dormant this entire time. The bastards are trying to get sneaky... --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 21:50, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
::I've seen vandalized main pages like that on the other wikis under attack. I'm not sure, but I think they start doing that only after they've "burrowed" into the site for an extended period of time. I believe the goal is to keep their spam links a part of the wiki for as long as possible. [[User:Uristocrat|Uristocrat]] 08:18, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
:::I suspect they were remaining dormant in order to get past the "new user" stage and gain the ability to edit semi-protected pages. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 17:21, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
::::I've modified new user stage so that you have to have made 10 edits before you can edit semiprotected articles or create new articles, in addition to the 3 day wait period. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 17:30, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::I'm glad. Sounds like that should help. Although, I just tried to create my user profile ([[User:Thundercraft|Thundercraft]]) and it gave me a '''Permission error''', it said "You do not have permission to create new pages." (I do not have 10 edits yet.) Perhaps you should make user profiles exempt from this rule? Also, I would recommend mentioning to new members about these requirements. Otherwise, it could mean a lot of confused new members at a lot of complaints. You would not have to be specific, however. You could just say that "several edits" are required before that privilege is granted. --[[User:Thundercraft|Thundercraft]] 23:01:23, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::I made your user profile page for you. An admin will have to do anything else. Also, I have confirmation now that the webspam team at Google is taking a look at this. They're interested because it's not just this wiki, there are thousands of others being vandalized by spammers and their real goal is to get their crap into the search engines. That probably won't stop the spambots from vandalizing things, but it will help keep them from profiting from this. [[User:Uristocrat|Uristocrat]] 08:39, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::I'll look into permissions today and see if I can get user page creation working for newly registered users. Also, you're probably right about needing a notice of some sort for this change. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 16:56, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Both [[User_talk:DaisyBarrett DaisyBarrett]] ([http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=DF2010:Soil&diff=prev&oldid=151347 example]) and [[User_talk:SunshineMcfadden SunshineMcfadden]] ([http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=DF2010:Sand&diff=prev&oldid=151343 example]) have added link-spam marked as minor edits. Link spam is the only edits these two users have done. -- [[User:Khym Chanur|Khym Chanur]] 20:44, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
:Did you not notice that their edits were undone and '''I banned both of them 9 hours ago'''? --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 21:15, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

There was a single spam edit by 124.6.181.171, which I've reverted. [[User:Bognor|Bognor]] 07:21, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
:^Same story for DScheer82. [[User:Bognor|Bognor]] 10:41, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

40d:Strange mood

2011-11-07T21:35:24Z

0x517A5D: Undo revision 154313 by DivinaLittlefield (talk) -invisible link to commercial weight control site, wikispam

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Periodically, individual dwarves are struck with an idea for a {{L|legendary artifact}} and enter a '''strange mood'''. Dwarves which enter a strange mood will stop whatever they are doing and pursue the construction of this artifact to the exclusion of all else. This will be based on a particular {{L|skill}} that creates a finished end product that can have a {{L|quality}}, rather than intermediary material such as bars of metal or raw food. They will not stop to eat, drink, sleep, or even run away from dangerous creatures. If they do not manage to begin construction of the artifact within a handful of months, they will go {{L|Strange mood#Failure|insane}} and die soon afterward.

A dwarf will only be struck by a mood once in their lifetime. Upon completion of their artifact they will usually become {{L|legendary}} in that skill, and will then return to their normal life in the fortress with their newfound skill. A fortress can have at most one dwarf in a strange mood at any one time.

==Overview==
The entire process can be summarized as follows:
# Strange moods can only occur when the below necessary [[#Conditions|conditions]] are met. {{L|baby|Babies}} and activated {{L|Soldier}}s with military skills cannot enter moods, nor {{L|Noble#Immigrant_Nobles|immigrant nobles}}, but any other dwarf can, including {{L|child}}ren.
# The game will pause, center on a dwarf, and announce that the dwarf has entered one of five different types of strange moods. The [[#Types of moods|types of moods]] are listed below. While in a mood, a dwarf will display a blinking exclamation point (see {{L|status icons}}).
# For the duration of the mood, the dwarf will claim a workshop related to the skill that the mood affects (not all skills are eligible), kick out any dwarf who was using it, and render it otherwise unusable until the mood has been resolved. If a moody dwarf does not claim a workshop, it is because the appropriate workshop does not exist. (See [[#Skills and workshops|skills and workshops]] below to determine which workshop(s) might be required.) A moody dwarf will ''not'' be available to build a needed workshop; another dwarf with the appropriate {{L|labor}} designation must do so for them, if one is necessary.
# After claiming a workshop, the dwarf will set about collecting the required materials for their artifact. If the dwarf remains idle inside the workshop, it's because they cannot find the right material. Reference the [[#Demands|demands]] section to determine what may be required.
# Once all materials have been gathered, the game will once again pause and center, and the moody dwarf will begin construction. Upon completion the dwarf will create a semi-random artifact related to the skill affected and gain {{L|legendary}} (or higher) status in that skill (unless the mood type is [[#Possessed|possessed]]). See the [[#Skills and workshops|skills and workshops]] for information on which skills can be gained, or the [[#Artifacts created|artifacts created]] section for more details on the artifacts themselves.

== Types of moods ==
For each of the following types of moods, the first message is how the mood is {{L|Announcement|announced}}; the second message appears in the dwarf's profile when he or she is viewed with the {{K|v}} key. All moody dwarves will have "Strange Mood" listed as their active task.

=== Fey ===
* {{Gametext|<dwarf> is taken by a fey mood!|7:1}}
: ''Has the aspect of one fey!''

This is the most basic strange mood. Fey dwarves will clearly state their demands when the workshop they are in is examined.

A fey dwarf's happiness is automatically set to 'quite content'.

=== Secretive ===
* {{Gametext|<dwarf> withdraws from society...|7:0}}
: ''Peculiarly secretive...''

Secretive moods are the same as fey moods, except a secretive dwarf will sketch pictures of their required materials instead of clearly stating their demands if they cannot find what they need. Descriptions of all these {{L|Mood#Demands|secretive requirements}} can be seen only by viewing the workshop that the moody dwarf has claimed, with {{k|q}}, and then only while the dwarf is waiting inside it. More than one "picture" is likely; these will cycle through the entire list automatically if any one is not available. (Since materials are gathered ''in order'', it's quite possible that only one of a long list is needed to allow the moody dwarf to continue on their project. If the dwarf has gathered some of the materials (seen as "tasked" when looking at the workshop with {{k|t}}), then the next in the list is what they are looking for.)

A secretive dwarf's happiness is automatically set to 'quite content'.

=== Possessed ===
* {{Gametext|<dwarf> has been possessed!|5:1}}
: ''Possessed by unknown forces!''

Possessed dwarves have cryptic material requests, and have the unfortunate distinction of not receiving any experience upon successful construction of an artifact. It is unknown if controllable circumstances lead to a possessed mood instead of one of the more desirable fey or secretive moods. Possessed dwarves will mutter the name of the artifact they are working on once they have all the materials they need.

A possession is the only mood that does ''not'' result in a jump in {{L|experience}}.

A possessed dwarf's happiness is automatically set to 'quite content'.

=== Fell ===
* {{Gametext|<dwarf> looses a roaring laughter, fell and terrible!|5:0}}
: ''Has a horrible fell look!''

A dwarf that goes into a fell mood will always take over a {{L|butcher's shop}} or a {{L|tanner's shop}}. If neither are available, any other workshop will be used instead. The dwarf will then ''murder'' the nearest dwarf, drag the corpse into the shop and make some sort of object out of dwarf {{L|leather}} or {{L|bone}}. Once the artifact is completed, the fell dwarf will become a legendary {{L|bone carver}} or {{L|leatherworker}}. Strangely, none of the other dwarves seem to mind the murder. Only unhappy dwarves may enter a fell mood.

Aside from the potential loss of an important dwarf in the wrong place at the wrong time, there doesn't seem to be any downside to a fell mood. The end result is always an artifact and a legendary craftsdwarf. Since the only ingredient used (a dwarf) is available in abundance, a fell mood will only fail if the fell dwarf is completely isolated from other dwarves, or if the proper workshop does not exist.

=== Macabre ===
* {{Gametext|<dwarf> begins to stalk and brood...|0:1}}
: ''Brooding darkly...''

Macabre moods are similar to fell moods, but the dwarf will not murder a fellow dwarf. A macabre dwarf may require bones, skulls, and chunks/remains; if you do not happen to have any, you will have to "make" some, or let the moody dwarf go insane. Like fell moods, only unhappy dwarves can enter macabre moods.

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== Demands ==
Once a workshop is claimed, the dwarf will begin collecting materials. Each artifact will require between one and ten materials to complete. If the moody dwarf remains idle, then the necessary materials are not available. {{L|Forbidden}} items must be reclaimed ({{K|d}} - {{K|b}} - {{K|c}}) before they may be used, but moody dwarves will ignore settings regarding {{L|economic stone}}. Press {{K|q}} and highlight the workshop to receive a series of clues about what the dwarf needs. Hints that stay active for longer than 2 seconds mean that multiple pieces of that material will be required; each single demand will be displayed for 2 seconds, so if it says "gems... shining" for 6 seconds, 3 gems are demanded. Materials will always be fetched ''in order'', so if at least one item has already been retrieved (the items will show up with "TSK" ("task") next to them when the workshop is viewed with the {{K|t}} context menu), it will usually be possible to tell what item is required next.

You can use this to your advantage to get your dwarf to pick specific types of items, even if the moody dwarf has already started storing materials in their workshop: if a fey weaponsmith starts piling up copper bars, forbid those bars and he'll go pick another bar instead. If you forbid all metals except say steel (the stocks screen makes this fairly convenient), then he'll skip all those other metals and make his artifact weapon out of strong, valuable steel instead of whatever random inferior metal he might have picked otherwise. Don't forbid any of his materials after your dwarf has begun building his artifact - he won't go back to collecting materials once started and will end up going insane.

Note though that if a dwarf has a demand for a specific item, such as a {{L|bar|bar of metal}}, raw {{L|gem}}, or {{L|shell}}, then that item type will be ''required''. For this reason, it is usually a good idea to keep an example of each item type on hand, particularly cut and raw gems, shells, bones, leather, raw (green) glass, both silk and plant cloth.

In somewhat rarer cases, a dwarf with a personality preference for a specific material, such as steel or silver {{L|bar}}s, will demand exactly that specific sub-type of material. For this reason, it is a good idea to keep as many types of material on hand as possible, including the three different kinds of glass. Forbidding materials won't let you get around this either: if they want a specific material subtype and you forbid it in favor of something else, they'll just sulk in their workshop until you unforbid the material or they are able to find it some other way - or they go {{L|insane}}. Asking a liaison for likely materials ''in advance'' is a good plan - "next year" is far too long for a moody dwarf to last. Check your dwarves' {{L|preference}}s if you care.

Once you have struck {{L|Adamantine}}, all moods which use cloth or metal as a primary component will insist on using Adamantine cloth or wafers over all other materials; moody dwarves which happen to want metal for decorations will still choose bars based on distance or preference. Moods involving stone crafting or masonry will not prefer {{L|raw adamantine}} over other stones.

The various demands are translated here:

:{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:left;width:90%;"
|-
! Material
! Fey
! Secretive
! Possessed
|-
|
| <dwarf> screams "I must have <demand>!"
| <dwarf> sketches pictures of <demand>.
| <dwarf> mutters "<artifact> needs <demand>..."
|-
| {{L|Stone}}
| rock
| a quarry
| stone... rock
|-
| Stone {{L|block}}
| rock blocks
| square blocks
| blocks... bricks
|-
| {{L|Wood}}
| wood logs
| a forest
| tree... life
|-
| Metal {{L|bar}}
| metal bars
| shining bars of metal
| bars... metal
|-
| {{L|Gem}}s (cut)
| cut gems
| cut gems
| gems... shining
|-
| {{L|Gem}}s (raw)
| rough gems
| rough gems
| rough... color
|-
| {{L|Glass}} (green)
| raw green glass
| glass
| raw... green
|-
| {{L|Glass}} (clear)
| clear glass{{verify}}
| glass and burning wood
| raw... clear
|-
| {{L|Glass}} (crystal)
| crystal glass{{verify}}
| rough gems and glass
| raw... crystal
|-
| {{L|Bone}}
| bones
| skeletons
| bones... yes
|-
| {{L|Shell}}
| shells
| a shell
| a shell...
|-
| {{L|Leather}}
| tanned hides
| stacked leather
| leather... skin
|-
| {{L|Cloth}} (plant)
| plant fiber cloth
| stacked cloth
| cloth... thread
|-
| {{L|Cloth}} (silk)
| silk cloth
| stacked cloth
| cloth... thread
|}

Dwarves in macabre moods will list their demands in the same fashion as those in fey moods (though with them brooding "Yes. I need <item>." instead of screaming "I must have <item>!"). They may also say "Leave me. I need... things... certain things", in which case they want special items such as {{L|skull}}s or vermin {{L|remains}}.

Once all materials have been gathered, viewing the workshop with {{K|q}} will display a special message depending on the type of mood:
* Fey - "<dwarf> works furiously!"
* Secretive - "<dwarf> works secretly..."
* Possessed - "<dwarf> keeps muttering <artifact>..."
* Macabre - "<dwarf> works, darkly brooding..."
* Fell - "<dwarf> works with menacing fury!"

====Known quirk====
On maps with magma, dwarves* who intend to create an artifact at a {{L|forge}} or {{L|glass furnace}} may only be willing to use a standard (non-magma) version, or only a magma version, and will find the other completely unacceptable. If they are just standing around, then they won't use the type you have, and you will have to build the other type for them (though no {{L|fuel}} will be required if using a standard, non-magma version).
:''(* This would include most all {{L|armorsmith}}s, {{L|blacksmith}}s, {{L|metalsmith}}s, {{L|weaponsmith}}s, and {{L|glassmaker}}s, and any whose mood is dictated by the relevant skills.)''

== The mechanics of moods ==

=== Frequency===
When a fortress is started, an internal counter is set to 1000. Around 11 or 12 times per day, this counter is decremented by 1, running down to zero in about 3 months. When the counter would ordinarily be decremented when it has already reached zero, there is a 1 in 500 chance that a strange mood will strike. This means that, once all conditions are met and the clock is ticking, while there is approximately a 2.4% chance of a strange mood per day, or ''very approximately'' a 50% chance of a strange mood per month, there is no guarantee when a mood will strike - might be sooner, might be (almost) never.

=== Conditions ===
In order for a dwarf to be struck with a strange mood, three conditions must be met:
:* There is no currently active strange mood,
:* The maximum number of artifacts is not met,
:* There are at least 20 eligible dwarves ''(see below)''.

If all three of these conditions are true, the game may trigger a strange mood according to the frequency.

==== Maximum number of artifacts ====
The maximum number of artifacts in any one fortress is limited by the lower of:
* The number of items created divided by 200. It is unknown whether mined-out rock counts as an "item created", or whether bolts and units of drink are counted individually.
* The number of revealed {{L|subterranean}} tiles divided by 2308 (this is an area equivalent to a 48x48 square). Using {{L|Exploratory mining|exploratory methods}} is a great way to increase your artifact limit.
[http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=46803.0 Anecdotal evidence] indicates that obsidian farming will affect at least one of these limits.

==== Eligibility ====
The deciding factor for eligibility is a dwarf's actual {{L|profession}}. ''(Note that "{{L|Skill#Custom profession labels|custom professions}}" have no effect on this!)'' Thus, dwarves may enter strange moods regardless of what skills they have or don't have, so long as they are of an acceptable profession. Dwarves who have already created an artifact are not eligible to create another, and since every mood ends in either an artifact or death, every dwarf may enter at most one mood. Dwarves who have obtained one or more legendary skills without creating artifacts may enter strange moods.

Appointed {{L|noble}}s may enter moods as per their default profession, but {{L|Noble#Immigrant Nobles|immigrant nobles}} are '''not''' eligible for moods. That includes:
:Advisor, Baron/ess, Baron/ess Consort, Count/ess, Countess Consort, Duke/Duchess, Duke/Duchess Consort, Dungeon Master, Hammerer, King/Queen, King/Queen Consort, Philosopher, and Tax Collector.

Further, dwarves with a {{L|Soldier#Soldier professions|military profession}} other than "Recruit" can '''not''' enter moods. Incidental military skills make no difference - eligibility (and weighting) depends purely on the actual ''{{L|profession}}'', as listed at the time. Military professions include:
:Axedwarf, Axe Lord, Champion, Crossbowdwarf, Elite Crossbowdwarf, Hammerdwarf, Hammer Lord, Macedwarf, Mace Lord, Marksdwarf, Elite Marksdwarf, Speardwarf, Spearmaster, Swordsdwarf, Swordmaster, Wrestler, and Elite Wrestler.

Babies may '''not''' enter moods.

Any other profession is eligible to enter a mood, but not all have the same ''chance'' to enter a mood...

:''('''Note''' - Specifically, and to avoid previous misunderstandings, {{L|Strand extractor}}, {{L|Clerk}}, {{L|Administrator}}, {{L|Trader}}, {{L|Building designer|Architect}}, {{L|Alchemist's laboratory|Alchemist}}, {{L|Soldier#Recruits|Recruit}} and {{L|Child}} '''are''' moodable professions.)''

=== Chance ===
When determining who will have a strange mood, each eligible dwarf is put into a weighted lottery. The odds are assigned a higher or lower weight based on the dwarf's {{L|profession}}. The default weight is 6, but some professions are more likely to enter a strange mood than others. (This is like most dwarves getting 6 tickets to the lottery, and others getting more.)

{| class="wikitable" cellspacing="0" border="2" cellpadding="5"
|-
! Weighting
! Professions

|-
| 21 ||Armorer, Blacksmith, Bone Carver, Clothier, Craftsdwarf, Jeweler, Gem Cutter, Gem Setter, Glassmaker, Leatherworker, Metalcrafter, Metalsmith, Stonecrafter, Weaponsmith, Weaver, Woodcrafter
|-
| 11 ||Bowyer, Carpenter, Stoneworker, Mason, Woodworker
|-
| 6 ||Engraver, Mechanic, Miner, Tanner, & all other {{L|profession}}s.

|}

:'''''Example:''' What this means is: if you had 21 dwarves, made up of 20 eligible farmers, furnace operators, miners, woodcutters etc. (with 6 chances each) plus one Armorer (with 21 chances), that one Armorer would have a 21 in 141 chance (20 dwarves x 6 chances each = 120 + 21 chances more = 141 total) of the mood striking them. That's about 1 in 7, while the other 20 have a 6 in 141 chance each, or about 1 in 24. The odds are still against the armorer, but much better than for any other single dwarf.''

Note that not every profession is from a moodable skill. An Alchemist, Architect, Furnace Operator or Strand Extractor can be taken by a mood, but that will not make those skills legendary, nor will they create an artifact bar of soap, building, bar of metal or wafer of adamantine.

:NOTE: ''If your game was saved shortly before one of you dwarves acquired a mood, reloading that game will most likely cause the chances to be completely re-figured, resulting in a different mood at a different time for a different dwarf with different materials. This is true for most all random events and results in Dwarf Fortress.''

=== Skills and workshops ===

{| class="wikitable" cellpadding="4" style="border:1px solid black;border-collapse:collapse;text-align:left;float:right;margin:0 0 20px 30px;"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background-color:#eee;border-bottom:1px solid black;text-align:center;" | Artifact Skill Rewards
|-
! Highest skill
! Workshop used
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Armorsmith}}
| {{L|Magma forge}} or {{L|Metalsmith's forge}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Bone carver}}
| {{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Bowyer}}
| {{L|Bowyer's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Carpenter}}
| {{L|Carpenter's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Clothier}}
| {{L|Clothier's shop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Engraver}}
| {{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Gem cutter}}
| {{L|Jeweler's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Gem setter}}
| {{L|Jeweler's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Glassmaker}}
| {{L|Glass furnace}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Leatherworker}}
| {{L|Leather works}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Mason}}
| {{L|Mason's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Mechanic}}
| {{L|Mechanic's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Metal crafter}}
| {{L|Magma forge}} or {{L|Metalsmith's forge}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Metalsmith}}
| {{L|Magma forge}} or {{L|Metalsmith's forge}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Miner}}
| {{L|Mason's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Stone crafter}}
| {{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Tanner}}
| {{L|Leather works}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Weaponsmith}}
| {{L|Magma forge}} or {{L|Metalsmith's forge}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Weaver}}
| {{L|Clothier's shop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Wood crafter}}
| {{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}
|}

A dwarf will claim a workshop according to their highest applicable skill, and upon completion of the artifact, gain 20,000 {{L|experience}} in that skill (excepting {{L|Strange mood#Possessed|possessed}} dwarves). This will give the dwarf a legendary-level {{L|skill}} (specifically, "legendary+1" or higher, depending on the dwarf's initial skill level) and a number of {{L|attribute}} gains. The table to the right describes all applicable skills and their potential workshop requirements - there are only 20 skills that determine the workshop and that can be affected by a mood (sometimes referred to as '''moodable''' skills.) If a dwarf does not possess at least one of the moodable skills listed to the right, they will take over a {{L|craftsdwarf's workshop}} and gain one of {{L|bone carver}}, {{L|stone crafter}}, or {{L|wood crafter}} skills, producing an artifact {{L|craft}}.

If a dwarf has the same experience points in two skills (as opposed to same experience title), the first listed for that dwarf will be the one affected by the mood (the exact experience can only be made visible with 3rd party {{L|utilities}}).

When multiple workshops are listed, the dwarf may require one or the other, so ensure that ''both'' are available, if possible. If you have one, and the dwarf is not interested, then build the other, right away. (i.e. If you have only {{L|magma forge}}s, you may have to build a standard {{L|forge}} for the moody dwarf).

Below is a list of all ''non''-moodable skills; if all of a dwarf's skills are found on this list and none from the table to the right, then they have no moodable skills and will construct their artifact at a {{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}, producing an appropriate craft as described above:

{|
|- style="vertical-align:top;"
| style="padding-right:30px;" |
* {{L|Ambusher}}
* {{L|Animal caretaker}}
* {{L|Animal dissector}}
* {{L|Animal trainer}}
* {{L|Appraiser}}
* {{L|Building designer|Architect}}
* {{L|Brewer}}
* {{L|Butcher}}
* {{L|Cheese maker}}
* {{L|Cook}}
* {{L|Dyer}}
* {{L|Fish cleaner}}
* {{L|Fish dissector}}
* {{L|Fisherdwarf}}
* {{L|Furnace operator}}
* {{L|Grower}}
* {{L|Herbalist}}
|
* {{L|Lye maker}}
* {{L|Milker}}
* {{L|Miller}}
* {{L|Potash maker}}
* {{L|Pump operator}}
* {{L|Record keeper}}
* {{L|Siege engineer}}
* {{L|Siege operator}}
* {{L|Soaper}}
* {{L|Strand extractor}}
* {{L|Thresher}}
* {{L|Trapper}}
* {{L|Wood cutter}}
* {{L|Wood burner}}
* All {{L|military}} skills
* All {{L|social skill}}s
|}

This fact can be utilized to maximize the possibility of getting a dwarf with the specific legendary skill you want: since ''non''-moodable skills are ignored, when ever possible make sure that each dwarf's highest ''moodable'' skill is one of those you want*. Have all your peasants, {{L|farmer}}s, non-professional military and other dwarves without any moodable skills do a tiny bit of work in the skill(s) you most want; if a "{{L|experience|dabbling}}" skill is the highest moodable skill they have, that is the skill that will be used.

:''(* {{L|Armorsmith}}, {{L|Weaponsmith}}, {{L|Metal crafter}} and {{L|Metalsmith}} are possibly the most-desired legendary skills, but much depends on your fortress, your current mix of skills, and your play style.)''

:''(Note that {{L|Tanner}} is a moodable skill, the only {{L|Farmer}} category skill that is moodable.)''

== Artifacts created ==
The type of artifact created will depend on the dwarf's highest skill. Masons and miners will always create some kind of stone furniture; bone Carvers, a bone or shell object; carpenters, a wood object, etc. Engravers and stone crafters will turn out a stone craft; metalworkers, metal crafts, weapons, or armor (depending on the type of metalworker); weavers, an article of clothing; tanners, a leather armor or object. If a dwarf has no moodable skills, they will take over a {{L|craftsdwarf's workshop}} and create a bone, stone or wood craft of some type. The precise type of craft created is usually somewhat random but if a dwarf has a personality preference for a particular thing, such as gauntlets or floodgates or crowns, and that thing is an available choice given the dwarf's profession, they will generally create an object of that type.

The first object grabbed by the dwarf will be the "primary" substance; all other materials will be used to decorate the artifact. If a dwarf grabs a piece of {{L|chalk}} and makes a statue, for instance, it will be a "chalk statue", but an artifact can potentially be composed of bone, cloth, gems, leather, metal, shell, stone, and wood all at once. In some cases, a moody dwarf will produce an item which normally cannot be made from that material, leading to such odd constructions as an {{L|obsidian}} {{L|bed}}, {{L|ruby}} {{L|floodgate}}, or turtle {{L|shell}} {{L|cage}}.

Once created, most {{L|artifact}}s will be available for use just like a normal item of its type. Artifact furniture is useful for high value {{L|noble}} rooms. {{L|Weapon}}s and {{L|armor}} will only be used by heroes and champions. Artifact weapons in {{L|Trap#Weapon Trap|weapon traps}} can also boost a room's value considerably, as in the case of artifact trap components.

== Failure ==
If you can't provide the desired workshop and all the required component materials within a couple of months, the dwarf will go {{L|insanity|insane}}, which cancels the mood and the artifact. As if that's not bad enough, any dwarf who goes insane will soon die, one way or another.

A dwarf who is '''stark raving mad''' or '''melancholy''' is harmless to others (until they die and start a {{L|tantrum}} spiral), but a '''berserk''' dwarf will attack other dwarves and possibly pull levers at random. You may want to station a squad nearby or assign a few war dogs to the dwarf on the chance that they will lash out. If you build your workshops inside enclosed rooms with doors you can also lock the moody dwarf in the room until he or she starves. In extreme cases, building a wall around an open workshop is the best precaution.

Most events that would ordinarily interrupt a dwarf will not deter a moody dwarf - for example, while passing out from pain will cancel most tasks, a moody dwarf will continue working as soon as he wakes up. Giving birth while in a strange mood does not interrupt the dwarf either; the new mother will ignore the baby until her mood is resolved and it will happily wander off in the meantime.

Severe distractions such as hostile creatures, however, can interrupt a strange mood, resulting in immediate insanity; similar results will happen if the workshop suddenly becomes unavailable, whether from being destroyed (by a cave-in or a dwarf throwing a tantrum) or from losing power (in the case of magma workshops). Note that the insanity can happen even when the dwarf is not deadlocked on an item; there have been observed instances where a dwarf goes insane while in the process of carrying a required item back to the commandeered workshop.

----

'''See also'''
:*{{L|Insanity}}
:*{{L|Artifact}}
:*{{L|Profession}}
:*{{L|Legendary}}

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For use on standard weapons.

{| {{prettytable}}
|- bgcolor="#ddd"
! Token
! Arguments
! Description

|-
| NAME
| singular:plural
| What this item will be called ingame.

|-
| ADJECTIVE
| adjective
| Appears before the name of the weapon's material. Eg. "large Obsidian dagger"

|-
| [DAMAGE:''<damage amount>'':''<damage type>'']
| dmg amount - value
dmg type - (slash, burn, etc.)
| Sets the amount and the type of {{L|Damage}}

|-
| WEIGHT
| value
| How much an item weighs.

|-
| STICK_CHANCE
| value
| The chance of a weapon sticking in a target.

|-
| SKILL
| weapon skill type (axe, sword, etc.)
| The type of weapon skill that experience is gained in when this weapon is wielded in melee fighting. For a list of skill tokens see {{L|Skill token}}s.

|-
| RANGED:''<skill type>'':''<ammo type>''
| skill type - weapon skill type
ammo type - anything
| This sets what weapon skill will be gained when this weapon is fired and what type of ammo can be fired by this weapon. Ammunition definitions have DAMAGE and CLASS - CLASS determines what ammo type it matches. Also allows this weapon to be constructed at a bowyer's workshop. For a list of skill tokens see {{L|Skill token}}s.

|-
| CRIT_BOOST:
| value
| Increases the chance of a weapon piercing internal organs.

|-
| TWO_HANDED
| value
| Creatures wielding this weapon that are above the minimum size but their size is below this number must wield this weapon with two hands. (''Currently only affects fortress mode as an adventurer can wield anything in one hand.'')

|-
| MINIMUM_SIZE:
| value
| The size a creature must be in order to use this weapon.

|-
| CAN_STONE
|
| Can be made out of SHARP (unmodded: obsidian) stone.

|-
| MATERIAL_SIZE:
| value
| How much material is needed to make the item. Is most important with bars. The number of bars needed is the value divided by three.
|}

{{Category|Modding}}
{{Category|Tokens}}

v0.31:Strange mood

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{{minorspoiler}}
Periodically, individual dwarves are struck with an idea for a {{L|legendary artifact}} and enter a '''strange mood'''. Dwarves which enter a strange mood will stop whatever they are doing and pursue the construction of this artifact to the exclusion of all else. They will not stop to eat, drink, sleep, or even run away from dangerous creatures. If they do not manage to begin construction of the artifact within a handful of months, they will go [[#Failure|insane]] and die soon afterward.

==Overview==

# The conditions necessary for a strange mood to occur are not fully understood, although they may possess even dwarf children.
# The game will pause, center on a dwarf, and announce that the dwarf has entered one of five different types of strange moods. The [[#Types of moods|types of moods]] are listed below. While in a mood, a dwarf will display a blinking exclamation point (see {{L|status icons}}).
# For the duration of the mood, the dwarf will claim a workshop related to the skill that the mood affects (not all skills are eligible), kick out any dwarf who was using it, and render it otherwise unusable until the mood has been resolved. If a moody dwarf does not claim a workshop, it is because the appropriate workshop does not exist. (See [[#Skills and workshops|skills and workshops]] below to determine which workshop(s) might be required.) A moody dwarf will ''not'' be available to build a needed workshop; another dwarf with the appropriate {{L|labor}} designation must do so for them, if one is necessary.
# After claiming a workshop, the dwarf will set about collecting the required materials for their artifact. If the dwarf remains idle inside the workshop, it's because they cannot find the right material. Reference the [[#Demands|demands]] section to determine what may be required. Important Note: They will only collect these materials in the order that they require them. In other words, you have to determine where they are on the list of required materials and then provide the next one before they will continue collecting other materials.
# Once all materials have been gathered, the game will once again pause and center, and the moody dwarf will begin construction. Upon completion the dwarf will create a semi-random artifact related to the skill affected and gain {{L|legendary}} (or higher) status in that skill (unless the mood type is [[#Possessed|possessed]]). See the [[#Skills and workshops|skills and workshops]] for information on which skills can be gained, or the [[#Artifacts created|artifacts created]] section for more details on the artifacts themselves.

== Types of moods ==
For each of the following types of moods, the first message is how the mood is {{L|Announcement|announced}}; the second message appears in the dwarf's profile when he or she is viewed with the {{K|v}} key. All moody dwarves will have "Strange Mood" listed as their active task.

=== Fey ===
* {{Gametext|<dwarf> is taken by a fey mood!|7:1}}
: ''Has the aspect of one fey!''

This is the most basic strange mood. Fey dwarves will clearly state their demands when the workshop they are in is examined.

A fey dwarf's happiness is automatically set to 'quite content'.

=== Secretive ===
* {{Gametext|<dwarf> withdraws from society...|7:0}}
: ''Peculiarly secretive...''

Secretive moods are the same as fey moods, except a secretive dwarf will sketch pictures of their required materials instead of clearly stating their demands if they cannot find what they need. Descriptions of all these [[#Demands|secretive requirements]] can be seen only by viewing the workshop that the moody dwarf has claimed, with {{k|q}}, and then only while the dwarf is waiting inside it. More than one "picture" is likely; these will cycle through the entire list automatically if any one is not available. (Since materials are gathered ''in order'', it's quite possible that only one of a long list is needed to allow the moody dwarf to continue on their project. If the dwarf has gathered some of the materials (seen as "tasked" when looking at the workshop with {{k|t}}), then the next in the list is what they are looking for.)

A secretive dwarf's happiness is automatically set to 'quite content'.

=== Possessed ===
* {{Gametext|<dwarf> has been possessed!|5:1}}
: ''Possessed by unknown forces!''

Possessed dwarves have cryptic material requests, and have the unfortunate distinction of not receiving any experience upon successful construction of an artifact. No controllable circumstances lead to a possessed mood instead of one of the more desirable fey or secretive moods. It is pure luck-based. Possessed dwarves will mutter the name of the artifact they are working on once they have all the materials they need.

A possession is the only mood that does ''not'' result in a jump in {{L|experience}}.

A possessed dwarf's happiness is automatically set to 'quite content'.

A possessed dwarf that is muttering nonsense has already gathered everything it needs

=== Fell ===
* {{Gametext|<dwarf> looses a roaring laughter, fell and terrible!|5:0}}
: ''Has a horrible fell look!''

A dwarf that goes into a fell mood will always take over a {{L|butcher's shop}} or a {{L|tanner's shop}}. If neither are available, any other workshop will be used instead. The dwarf will then ''murder'' the nearest dwarf (bonus if its a noble), drag the corpse into the shop and make some sort of object out of dwarf {{L|leather}} or {{L|bone}}. Once the artifact is completed, the fell dwarf will become a legendary {{L|bone carver}} or {{L|leatherworker}}. Strangely, none of the other dwarves seem to mind the murder. Only unhappy dwarves may enter a fell mood.

Aside from the loss of a potentially important dwarf in the wrong place at the wrong time, there doesn't seem to be any downside to a fell mood. The end result is always an artifact and a legendary craftsdwarf. Since the only ingredient used (a dwarf) is available in abundance, a fell mood will only fail if the fell dwarf is completely isolated from other dwarves, or if the proper workshop does not exist.

=== Macabre ===
* {{Gametext|<dwarf> begins to stalk and brood...|0:1}}
: ''Brooding darkly...''

Macabre moods are similar to fell moods, but the dwarf will not murder a fellow dwarf. A macabre dwarf may require bones{{verify}}, skulls{{verify}} or remains (this includes vermin remains and many otherwise unusable items); if you do not happen to have any, you will have to make some, e.g. by butchering an animal, or let the moody dwarf go insane. Like fell moods, only unhappy dwarves can enter macabre moods.

==Caveats==
* Shells are a common request in moods and are only produced from preparing raw {{l|turtle}}s, {{L|mussel}}s, {{L|oyster}}s, or {{L|cave lobster}}s at a fishery. That is, you must be able to fish them at your site - there is no way of trading for them, since traded {{L|cave lobster}}s and {{L|turtle}}s are ''processed'' fish (with the shells already removed). Version 0.31.12 and beyond should have much fewer shell requests.
* Should the claimed workshop be a {{L|magma forge}} and lose power due to insufficient magma beneath it, the mood will fail immediately and the dwarf will go {{L|insane}}. Should the forge be in danger of losing power, you should forbid it before it is claimed and wait until it is powered up reliably. Once magma forges are built, at least some dwarfes will no longer be satisfied with a regular forge.
* The following can happen (v .31.12) "OVERWROTE JOB: Strange Mood BY Starting Fist Fight".
* The mood's primary material will only be mentioned ''once'' in the dwarf's requests, even if the dwarf wants more than one unit of it. [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=75139.0;topicseen]
* The item to be built is not set at the beginning of the mood. Saving (even after a dwarf has begun to gather materials) will allow you to reload and the result may be a different artifact. If you want to receive artifact adamantine breastplate, make sure to have adamantine nearby and forbid/move away any other materials. You can reload the artifact creating process, even after the dwarf has gathered most of components by forbidding the claimed items. If other items of that type are available, dwarf will immediately switch to them.

==Bugs==
{{version|0.31.03}}
* There are bugs reported related to moody dwarves. As has been the case in 40d, most turned out to be (understandable) failures of the player to grasp the mechanics of artifact creation and demands. Bug tracker: [http://bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view_all_bug_page.php]
* Dwarves may request "rock bars" -- This is satisfied by metal bars.
{{version|0.31.10}}
* Moody Dwarves don't respect burrows when grabbing a workshop, but DO when looking for items. If his claimed workshop is outside his assigned burrow, the dwarf will continue to grab materials until all materials of the needed type are exhausted within his assigned burrow, this is similar to the [[Planepacked]] glitch.
* If a dwarf dies because of failing to complete an artifact, a memorial made to the dwarf will read that the dwarf did create it, despite the failure, and will even list the name of the artifact that never came to be.

== Demands ==
Once a workshop is claimed, the dwarf will begin collecting materials. Each artifact will require between one and ten materials to complete. The dwarf may well need several items of one material! If the moody dwarf remains idle, then the necessary materials are not available. {{L|Forbidden}} items must be reclaimed ({{K|d}} - {{K|b}} - {{K|c}}) before they may be used, but moody dwarves will ignore settings regarding {{L|economic stone}}. Press {{K|q}} and highlight the workshop to receive a series of clues about what the dwarf needs. Hints that stay active for longer than 2 seconds mean that multiple pieces of that material will be required; each single demand will be displayed for 2 seconds, so if it says "gems... shining" for 6 seconds, 3 gems are demanded. However, occasionally a hint shown for only 2 seconds will require more than one item to fulfill it; this behavior seems to occur mainly (only?) with the primary material (the base material of the artifact, and the first item gathered).{{Verify}} Materials will always be fetched ''in order'', so if at least one item has already been retrieved (the items will show up with "TSK" ("task") next to them when the workshop is viewed with the {{K|t}} context menu), it will usually be possible to tell what item is required next.

If you want your dwarves to construct their artifacts out of valuable materials instead of whatever useless thing happens to be close at hand, you can selectively forbid types of material through the stocks screen so that only the material you want them to use is available; though this might interfere with the normal crafting operations of your fortress, the disruption is generally short-lived (as long as you remember to unforbid them again afterwards!). You can even forbid something a moody dwarf is carrying (which may be necessary sometimes, since while they are not waiting in the workshop they will not tell you what they need); the dwarf will finish hauling it to the workshop, but then immediately go searching for another. This trick can mean the difference between a bauxite statue decorated with moss agates and a native platinum statue encrusted with diamonds. Be aware that this may not always work - moody {{L|metalsmith}}s will occasionally insist on a specific type of metal with which to make their artifact, and forbidding other metals to force them to use a more valuable material will simply cause them to sit in the workshop until you give them what they want. This metal is usually the one listed in their Thoughts and Preferences page as their favorite metal. Weaponsmiths and armorers are likely to insist on adamantine wafers should any exist in your fortress, forbidden or not, regardless of the particular dwarf's preferences{{verify}}.

As of DF2010, burrows seem to allow even better control over moody dwarf's material usage. Simply by creating a burrow around claimed workshop and another part over desired material, moody dwarf can be controlled without forbidding every single stone in fortress. A moody dwarf will follow the burrow-definitions just like a regular worker, but be mindful that they will not leave the burrow to get materials that are outside of their assigned burrow. A problem can arise when bones from an outside refuse stockpile are needed by a moody dwarf that is assigned to a burrow.

The various demands are translated here:

:{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:left;width:90%;"
|-
! Material
! Fey
! Secretive
! Possessed
|-
|
| <dwarf> screams "I must have <demand>!"
| <dwarf> sketches pictures of <demand>.
| <dwarf> mutters "<artifact> needs <demand>..."
|-
| {{L|Stone}}
| rock
| a quarry
| stone... rock
|-
| Stone/metal {{L|block}}s
| rock blocks
| square blocks
| blocks... bricks
|-
| {{L|Wood}}
| wood logs
| a forest
| tree... life
|-
| Metal {{L|bar}}
| rock bars
| shining bars of metal
| bars... metal
|-
| {{L|Gem}}s (cut)
| cut gems
| cut gems
| gems... shining
|-
| {{L|Gem}}s (raw)
| rough gems
| rough gems
| rough... color
|-
| Green {{L|glass}}
| raw green glass
| glass
| raw... green
|-
| Clear glass
| raw clear glass{{verify}}
| glass and burning wood
| raw... clear
|-
| Crystal glass
| raw crystal glass{{verify}}
| rough gems and glass
| raw... crystal
|-
| {{L|Bone}}{{verify}}
| bones
| skeletons
| bones... yes
|-
| {{L|Shell}}{{verify}}
| shells
| shells
| a shell...
|-
| {{L|Leather}}
| tanned hides
| stacked leather
| leather... skin
|-
| {{L|Cloth}} (plant fiber)
| plant cloth
| stacked cloth
| cloth... thread
|-
| {{L|Cloth}} (silk)
| silk cloth
| stacked cloth
| cloth... thread
|-
| {{L|Cloth}} (yarn)
| yarn cloth
| stacked cloth
| cloth... thread
|-
| {{L|Bone}}, possibly {{L|Skull}}, {{L|Horn}}, {{L|Ivory}}
| body parts
| death
| a corpse
|}

Dwarves in macabre moods will list their demands in the same fashion as those in fey moods (though with them brooding "Yes. I need <item>." instead of screaming "I must have <item>!"). They may also say "Leave me. I need... things... certain things", in which case they want special items such as {{L|skull}}s or vermin {{L|remains}}.

Fey dwarves will sometimes ask for rock bars. This is just a typographical error, caused by stones and metals having been joined into a single "inorganic" material type in version 0.31 - they are actually asking for metal bars.

Related to the above behavior, moody dwarves demanding rock blocks will also accept blocks forged from metal bars.

Moody metalworkers may occasionally require a specific type of metal as their artifact's primary material - for secretive moods and possessions, take a look at the dwarf's material preferences to see which metal the dwarf wants to use.

Once all materials have been gathered, viewing the workshop with {{K|q}} will display a special message depending on the type of mood:
* Fey - "<dwarf> works furiously!"
* Secretive - "<dwarf> works secretly..."
* Possessed - "<dwarf> keeps muttering <artifact>..."
* Macabre - "<dwarf> works, darkly brooding..."
* Fell - "<dwarf> works with menacing fury!"

== The mechanics of moods ==

==== Eligibility ====
The deciding factor for eligibility is a dwarf's actual {{L|Unit type token|profession}}. ''(Note that "{{L|Skill#Custom profession labels|custom professions}}" have no effect on this!)'' Thus, dwarves may enter strange moods regardless of what skills they have or don't have, so long as they are of an acceptable profession. Dwarves who have already created an artifact are not eligible to create another, and since every mood ends in either an artifact or death, every dwarf may enter at most one mood. Dwarves who have obtained one or more legendary skills without creating artifacts may enter strange moods.

Dwarves with a {{L|Soldier#Soldier professions|military profession}} other than "Recruit" can '''not''' enter moods. Incidental military skills make no difference - eligibility (and weighting) depends purely on the actual ''{{L|profession}}'' as listed at the time, so soldiers '''can''' enter moods if they are ''off duty'' and thus in Civilian mode. Babies may '''not''' enter moods.

Any other profession is eligible to enter a mood, but not all have the same ''chance'' to enter a mood...

:''('''Note''' - Specifically, and to avoid previous misunderstandings, {{L|Strand extractor}}, {{L|Clerk}}/{{L|Administrator}}/{{L|Trader}}, {{L|Doctor}} (and related), {{L|Building designer|Architect}}, {{L|Soldier#Recruits|Recruit}} and {{L|Child}} '''are''' moodable professions.)''

=== Chance ===
When determining who will have a strange mood, each eligible dwarf is put into a weighted lottery. The odds are assigned a higher or lower weight based on the dwarf's {{L|profession}}. The default weight is 6, but some professions are more likely to enter a strange mood than others. (This is like most dwarves getting 6 tickets to the lottery, and others getting more.)

{| class="wikitable" cellspacing="0" border="2" cellpadding="5"
|-
! Weighting
! Professions

|-
| 21 ||Armorer, Blacksmith, Bone Carver, Clothier, Craftsdwarf, Jeweler, Gem Cutter, Gem Setter, Glassmaker, Leatherworker, Metalcrafter, Metalsmith, Stonecrafter, Weaponsmith, Weaver, Woodcrafter
|-
| 11 ||Bowyer, Carpenter, Stoneworker, Mason, Woodworker
|-
| 6 ||Engraver, Mechanic, Miner, Tanner, & all other {{L|profession}}s (including Peasant).

|}

:'''''Example:''' What this means is: if you had 21 dwarves, made up of 20 eligible farmers, furnace operators, miners, woodcutters etc. (with 6 chances each) plus one Armorer (with 21 chances), that one Armorer would have a 21 in 141 chance (20 dwarves x 6 chances each = 120 + 21 chances more = 141 total) of the mood striking them. That's about 1 in 7, while the other 20 have a 6 in 141 chance each, or about 1 in 24. The odds are still against the armorer, but much better than for any other single dwarf.''

Note that not every profession is from a moodable skill. A Soaper, Architect, Furnace Operator or Strand Extractor can be taken by a mood, but that will not make those skills legendary, nor will they create an artifact bar of soap, building, bar of metal or wafer of adamantine.

:NOTE: ''If your game was saved shortly before one of you dwarves acquired a mood, reloading that game will most likely cause the chances to be completely re-figured, resulting in a different mood at a different time for a different dwarf with different materials. This is true for most all random events and results in Dwarf Fortress.''

=== Skills and workshops ===

{| class="wikitable" cellpadding="4" style="border:1px solid black;border-collapse:collapse;text-align:left;float:right;margin:0 0 20px 30px;"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background-color:#eee;border-bottom:1px solid black;text-align:center;" | Artifact Skill Rewards
|-
! Highest skill
! Workshop used
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Armorsmith}}
| {{L|Metalsmith's forge}} (or {{L|Magma forge}})
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Bone carver}}
| {{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Bowyer}}
| {{L|Bowyer's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Carpenter}}
| {{L|Carpenter's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Clothier}}
| {{L|Clothier's shop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Engraver}}
| {{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Gem cutter}}
| {{L|Jeweler's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Gem setter}}
| {{L|Jeweler's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Glassmaker}}
| {{L|Glass furnace}} (or {{L|Magma glass furnace}})
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Leatherworker}}
| {{L|Leather works}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Mason}}
| {{L|Mason's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Mechanic}}
| {{L|Mechanic's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Metal crafter}}
| {{L|Magma forge}} (or {{L|Metalsmith's forge}})
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Metalsmith}}
| {{L|Magma forge}} (or {{L|Metalsmith's forge}})
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Miner}}
| {{L|Mason's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Stone crafter}}
| {{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Tanner}}
| {{L|Leather works}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Weaponsmith}}
| {{L|Magma forge}} (or {{L|Metalsmith's forge}})
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Weaver}}
| {{L|Clothier's shop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| {{L|Wood crafter}}
| {{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}
|- style="border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;"
| Anyone Else
| {{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}
|}

A dwarf will claim a workshop according to their highest applicable skill, and upon completion of the artifact, gain 20,000 {{L|experience}} in that skill (excepting {{L|Strange mood#Possessed|possessed}} dwarves). This will give the dwarf a legendary-level {{L|skill}} (specifically, "legendary+1" or higher, depending on the dwarf's initial skill level). The table to the right describes all applicable skills and their potential workshop requirements - there are only 20 skills that determine the workshop and that can be affected by a mood (sometimes referred to as '''moodable''' skills.) If a dwarf does not possess at least one of the moodable skills listed to the right, they will take over a {{L|craftsdwarf's workshop}} and gain one of {{L|bone carver}}, {{L|stone crafter}}, or {{L|wood crafter}} skills, producing an artifact {{L|craft}}.

This fact can be utilized to maximize the possibility of getting a dwarf with the specific legendary skill you want: since ''non''-moodable skills are ignored, whenever possible make sure that each dwarf's highest ''moodable'' skill is one of those you want*. Have all your peasants, {{L|farmer}}s, non-professional military and other dwarves without any moodable skills do a tiny bit of work in the skill(s) you most want; if a "{{L|experience|dabbling}}" skill is the highest moodable skill they have, that is the skill that will be used.

:''(* {{L|Armorsmith}}, {{L|Weaponsmith}}, {{L|Metal crafter}} and {{L|Metalsmith}} are possibly the most-desired legendary skills, but much depends on your fortress, your current mix of skills, and your play style.)''

== Artifacts created ==
The type of artifact created will depend on the dwarf's highest skill. Masons and miners will always create some kind of stone furniture; bone carvers, a bone or shell object; carpenters, a wood object, etc. engravers and stone crafters will turn out a stone craft; metalworkers, metal crafts, weapons, or armor (depending on the type of metalworker); weavers, an article of clothing; tanners, a leather armor or object. If a dwarf has no moodable skills, they will take over a {{L|craftsdwarf's workshop}} and create a bone, stone or wood craft of some type. The precise type of craft created is usually somewhat random but if a dwarf has a personality preference for a particular thing, such as gauntlets or floodgates or crowns, and that thing is an available choice given the dwarf's profession, they will generally create an object of that type.

The first object grabbed by the dwarf will be the "primary" substance; all other materials will be used to decorate the artifact. If a dwarf grabs a piece of {{L|chalk}} and makes a statue, for instance, it will be a "chalk statue", but an artifact can potentially be composed of bone, cloth, gems, leather, metal, shell, stone, and wood all at once. In some cases, a moody dwarf will produce an item which normally cannot be made from that material, leading to such odd constructions as an {{L|obsidian}} {{L|bed}}, {{L|ruby}} {{L|floodgate}}, or turtle {{L|shell}} {{L|cage}}.

Once created, most {{L|artifact}}s will be available for use just like a normal item of its type. Artifact furniture is useful for high value {{L|noble}} rooms. Artifact weapons in {{L|weapon trap}}s can also boost a room's value considerably, as in the case of artifact trap components and mechanisms.

Unless the mood was a Possession, the dwarf will gain 20,000 points of {{L|experience}} in the skill used to produce the artifact, enough to boost them to Legendary.

== Failure ==
If you can't provide the desired workshop and all the required component materials within a couple of months, the dwarf will go {{L|insanity|insane}}, which cancels the mood and the artifact. As if that's not bad enough, any dwarf who goes insane will soon die, one way or another.

A dwarf who is '''stark raving mad''' or '''melancholy''' is harmless to others (until they die and start a {{L|tantrum}} spiral), but a '''berserk''' dwarf will attack other dwarves and possibly pull levers at random. You may want to station a squad nearby or assign a few war dogs to the dwarf on the chance that they will lash out. If you build your workshops inside enclosed rooms with doors you can also lock the moody dwarf in the room until he or she starves. In extreme cases, building a wall around an open workshop is the best precaution.

v0.31:Strange mood

2011-10-14T17:08:55Z

0x517A5D: undo edit by 24.130.53.146: it's not just 40d, it happens in current too.{verified}

v0.31:Experience

2011-07-20T17:23:14Z

0x517A5D: 30. 30. It's been 30 since the 2D days.

{{quality|Fine|06:10, 27 December 2010 (UTC)}}{{av}}

'''Experience''' represents how much a certain dwarf (or other intelligent creature) has learned about a certain subject or profession. It affects proficiency in skills. Precise points in experience are never displayed directly, except in Adventurer mode.

Every experience point earned is associated with a [[skill]]. Every time a dwarf uses this skill, experience is gained. When a skill is unused for a while, the skill will become [[rusty]] and experience will decrease, eventually permanently.

Most skills give 30 XP per use, {{L|smoothing}}, {{L|engraving}} and {{L|mining}} give 10 XP per use, and military skills are variable, with more XP gained from real combat than from training.

A more skilled dwarf will do work better and faster than an unskilled one. The better work results in higher quality items. The speed of work is most notable in legendary miners, who will barely touch the walls to make them crumble.

{| style="margin: 0 auto; border: 1px solid black; border-spacing: 0"
|-
| width="33%" style="border-right: 1px solid black;" |
{| width="100%"
! Lvl !! Title !! XP
|-
| 0 || Dabbling ||align="right"| 1
|-
| 1 || Novice ||align="right"| 500
|-
| 2 || Adequate ||align="right"| 1100
|-
| 3 || Competent ||align="right"| 1800
|-
| 4 || Skilled ||align="right"| 2600
|-
| 5 || Proficient * ||align="right"| 3500
|-
| 6 || Talented ||align="right"| 4500
|}
| width="33%" style="border-right: 1px solid black;" |
{| width="100%"
! Lvl !! Title !! XP
|-
| 7 || Adept ||align="right"| 5600
|-
| 8 || Expert ||align="right"| 6800
|-
| 9 || Professional ||align="right"| 8100
|-
| 10 || Accomplished ||align="right"| 9500
|-
| 11 || Great † ||align="right"| 11000
|-
| 12 || Master ||align="right"| 12600
|-
| 13 || High Master ||align="right"| 14300
|}
| width="33%" |
{| width="100%"
! Lvl !! Title !! XP
|-
| 14 || Grand Master ||align="right"| 16100
|-
| 15 || Legendary ||align="right"| 18000
|-
| 16 || Legendary+1 ‡ ||align="right"| 20000
|-
| 17 || Legendary+2 ‡ ||align="right"| 22100
|-
| 18 || Legendary+3 ‡ ||align="right"| 24300
|-
| 19 || Legendary+4 ‡ ||align="right"| 26600
|-
| 20 || Legendary+5 ‡ ||align="right"| 29000
|}
|}
::::''Notes:''
:::::<nowiki> *</nowiki> This is the highest skill level possible for one of your starting dwarves.
:::::† Once soldiers reach this level in a weapon skill, they will become a {{L|Soldier#Heroes|hero}} and no longer complain about long patrol duty.
:::::‡ These levels are not shown in game, but they do have an effect. An ordinary legendary dwarf produces a significant proportion of superior quality goods while a legendary+5 dwarf is guaranteed at least exceptional quality, barring effects like tiredness and hunger. It seems to be possible to have a skill over Legendary+5, at least in adventure mode. This is clearly seen by looking at the experience required for the next level and comparing how much you level up. The easiest way to see this is to remove your weapon, choose not to dodge or move around, and simply wait while something harmless tries to kill you. Tested in version 31.10, probably unchanged since then.{{verify}}

v0.31 Talk:Experience

2011-07-09T16:40:56Z

0x517A5D: /* XP gain chart */

==What is Experience?==
(I'm brand new so let me know if I'm doing something wrong here)
It would be nice if this page had info more on what xp is instead of just details on it. Maybe, how xp is earned, how you know you have earned it, where you can view how much xp a dwarf has earned, ect... [[User:Zerocyde|Zerocyde]] 08:37, 21 August 2010

==Legendary +1...==
Do we have any proof - or even any hint - that these still exist?--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 21:49, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:Only in the sense that they *used to* exist. I left it on the table; if someone else is braver than I, they can remove it until such time as they are proved to exist and matter. [[Special:Contributions/129.2.164.85|129.2.164.85]]
::At least in adventure mode it is possible to have a higher level than 500. I had a wrestler and fighter skill of about [*****/50000], which would be a level of (50000/100(for the experience))-5(for starting experience) which is about level 495. I got this by wrestling a bronze <s>titan</s>colossus after I dropped him into a murky pool. I have still a pic of THAT but not of the experience. I haven't modded the game nor used cheats/hacks. <s>I try to redo that (deleted the save) and make PICS!</s> Not needed you can use the battle arena to do this. Just make a bronze colossus in the water and another creature on the ground above the water. Then attack/wrestle it. You easy get a very high wrestling skill since EVERY attack of wrestling increases wrestling and fighter about 5000-30000 points.
On this topic, I have evidence (if not proof) that Legendary +1 (etc.) exist. I have two miners, both legendary, but one of whom has been mining for a quite a bit longer, and mines appreciably faster (50% faster or so). So, there could be other factors at work here, but the obvious answer is Legendary+1. [[User:Rodya mirov|Rodya mirov]]
:Whatever Dwarf Therapist uses for it seems to think so because it's still listed as legandary +x. [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 18:53, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
::Technically, skill beyond Legendary wouldn't have any effect on miners, but it '''would''' have an effect on anybody producing goods - a straight Legendary mason would occasionally produce *superior* goods, while Legendary+5 would be strictly ≡exceptional≡ and ☼masterwork☼ goods. Considering this behavior has been present ever since the 2D version, it's '''highly''' unlikely that it would have been removed now. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 19:24, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:::It's not been removed - levels 16-20 still show in memory. The effects of levels 16-20 on produced item quality could have changed (but do not appear to based on anecdotal tests of legendary engravers). [[User:Bpuk|Bpuk]] 22:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
::::I second this, tho for a different reason - I've had my broker switch to "administrator" type from "miner" (he is legendary at both, and had just bought about 11k of goods). Give him a pick and set him to mine, soon enough he's back to "miner" type. Despite being legendary in both a few years back. - Nimblewright (forgot to sign in)
:::::I most definitely have a Legendary +5 Gem Cutter, if that means anything.
::::::Why do we still have the verifies? It's in the memory, so I guess we can at least say the skills are 'assumed' to have an effect instead? Also, skills go up to skill 255, after that it either overflows to dabbling (skill 0) or there is code to prevent that (which the disassembler does not show, leading me to believe it does infact overflow). The adventure mode statistics are, memory-wise, correct, but the thing that needs to be verified is wheather those higher skills have '''any''' use. Looking at my craftdwarf's workshops, it seems that the 40d Leg+x skill bonuses still apply, but that may be statistical error. --[[User:Dree12|Dree12]] 21:25, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::I have several Legendary+5 Dwarves according to Dwarf Therapist, they have yet to produce a single object of less than exceptional quality. So I consider the existance of these skill level pretty much proven.

==Experience amounts==
The experience amounts listed in this table are wrong. They are not 1..2..3.. etc. They are the same as the 40d table. [[User:Garanis|Garanis]] 02:38, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

==Atrophy of skills==
I started a game with a proficient farmer but never planted anything. I can verify that after 5 game years, my proficient farmer "rusted" to be skilled. So, I assume he lost experience like Toady noted would be included in this release. I don't know when exactly it happened, but on those scales it doesn't really bear mentioning. If you had a legendary it would never really come into play. I don't know if it even bears mentioning on the page. Anyone? --[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 21:48, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

I can confirm this. A proficient Bowyer became skilled after years without work. It was after around five years too. Dwarf Therapist shows that the progress of experience of the Dwarf is 0% towards next level. Because he has never worked as Bowyer, it might be that the experience is set to the pevious level with or without the progress. --[[User:Blur|Blur]] 11:43, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

== Experience, fey moods and masterwork ==

Hi, I don't have an account here yet so I guess I'm just anonymous, but I noticed that when a dwarf suddenly does a masterpiece their experience level jumps realllly high. I had a Competent Trapper do some Engraving, but then she turned out a series of masterpieces and she became Legendary. She still consistently makes masterpiece engravings; she can even fill an entire announcement page of masterpieces in minutes.

Another dwarf of mine, a Competent Gem Setter, was hit by a fey mood and constructed an artifact amulet. He became Legendary after that. Couldn't sell the artifact. Wish I could, though; it's worth 72000 DB. --Unnoskol--
:Masterpieces don't boost experience - it's just that Engraving trains up more quickly at higher skill levels, and high skill levels result in more frequent Masterwork products. As for strange moods, a successful mood (provided it wasn't a Possession) grants 20,000 experience points, which is enough to boost to Legendary+1. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 15:26, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:Well, I also have a Carpenter who reached High Master from Adequate after a string of masterpiece beds. And I also have a Competent Leatherworker who shot up to High Master after a few masterpiece bags. I'm serious; please verify. [[User:Unnoskol|Unnoskol]] 15:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
::I put a debugger trap on experience gain and ran a new fort for 5 seasons.{{Version|0.31.12}}  I filtered out all gains of 30 points, gains of 10 points associated with mining and engraving, gains of 1 point associated with masonry, and all military and social skills. The trap caught gains of n*500 to random skills when migrants, merchants, and liaisons were generated, and one gain of 20,000 to carpentry when a strange mood succeeded. No bonuses for creating or engraving a masterwork were detected. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 06:47, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:::As someone unfamiliar with the mechanics behind the system, these numbers mean little to me. Can you explain your conclusions based on this data? --[[User:Romeofalling|Romeofalling]] 19:54, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Basically I'm saying that I saw no bonuses related to masterworks.
::::* Nearly every task completed earns 30 exp. Catching a fish, failing to catch a fish, crafting a mug, distilling some booze, felling a tree, everything.
::::* Mining and smoothing/engraving earn 10 exp per tile.
::::* Large buildings (those which require architecture) earn many 1 point gains during their construction — I think this is because their construction can be interrupted and resumed by a different dwarf.
::::* A successful non-possession strange mood results in a 20,000 exp gain to one skill.
::::* Those, and unit creation, were the only exp gains I saw.
::::This does not completely refute the possibility of exp bonuses for masterworks, but any hypothetical bonus would need to be the same 30 points as the normal gain, just applied multiple times. Which seems a very odd way to code it. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 21:36, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
==Long Patrol duty==

"† Once soldiers reach this level in a weapon skill, they will become a hero and no longer complain about long patrol duty. "

I agree with the first part. The second part seems strange to me. Have you verified this is the case? Make a squad of one with a demand for 10 and have a full train schedule?--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 16:56, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
:I've got a bunch of elite soldiers in my current fortress and none of them are unhappy about long patrol duty. 40d (and 23a) was the same way. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 18:16, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
::I wanted to see if I could schedule uninterrupted training and mitigate the effects of complaints about long patrol duty, or if I had to include breaks in the schedule. I checked the forums and found [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=73043.msg1802550#msg1802550 this], coincidentally written by Quietust, which indicated that not only was a solid training schedule possible, but that at elite level, bad patrol duty thoughts would go away. I also found [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=82684.msg2201676#msg2201676 this], which tied the cessation of long duty complaints to reaching Great skill level. The section in the wiki that I linked to regarding heroes also mentioned the effects of reaching Great skill level, but didn't explicitly state that it removed bad thoughts about patrol duty. (Hm, I should add this information to that page.) So, I put 2 soldiers in a squad, set to minimum 2, and had them train constantly, to the point where one of them got depressed from long patrol duty. When he reached Great level, though, his mood improved and "long patrol duty" no longer showed up in his thoughts. I don't know how long the gap was between him attaining Great level and me checking his thoughts, since I doubt it simply disappearred, but he had enough time to admire new things for it to not appear in his recent thoughts. --[[User:Cali|Cali]] 22:56, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
:::I tried to reproduce the "long patrol duty" and couldn't! I embarked with 5 axe dwarves and had a squad (5/5 ax) set to train year round. They never got the "long patrol duty" thought! What specifically do you have to do to get that bad thought?--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 21:03, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
::::Using a new fortress, I once again had 2 soldiers, minimum 2 active, training full-time starting in late spring. I checked their thoughts at the beginning of each month and they began grumbling about long patrol duty in early autumn, four months after training started. They achieved Great skill in mid-autumn, and no longer had long patrol complaints in their recent thoughts by early winter. My soldiers were engaged in regular training with no actual battles during this time; did you use a danger room and/or send your soldiers out to kill wildlife or defend against snatchers? If so, they may have just skilled up faster than mine and reached Great in less than four months, which would mean that they didn't have time to get grumpy about long patrol duty. --[[User:Cali|Cali]] 14:41, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::my ax dwarves trained continuously and I did try the danger room. Boy, danger rooms are really effective! The dwarf went from proficient to great in no time at all! Due to the "loosing all labors" bug, I want to avoid having "great" military. Can I design a schedule to avoid the "long patrol duty" bad thought, or do I need to manually move them from active/training to inactive? Lets say I have <great ax dwarves who have been training for three months. If they go off duty a month, when they go back on duty will they get the "long patrol duty" bad thought after a months time?--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 20:18, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
::::::Your main goal seems to be having a military below Great skill level so that they can retain their civilian labors without getting bad thoughts from long patrol. Does that mean you plan to retire your veterans before they become elite and continually train up new troops? I tend not to put anyone in the military whose civilian skills I want to keep in order to avoid this issue. Anyway, I haven't done much experimenting with active vs. inactive schedules; with a fully active schedule, my soldiers were free of long patrol complaints for three months, but the bottom of the {{L|Thought#Unhappy Thoughts|unhappy thoughts list}} says that complaints about long patrol duty happen after only one month. My suggestion, then, is to form three squads and set the first to be inactive every other month, the second to be inactive after every two months, and the third to be inactive after three months and see which one can go the longest without patrol bad thoughts. Once you figure out the sweet spot for your dwarves, you should be able to set a final schedule for the squads without needing to manually switch them back and forth. If they go off duty before generating a long patrol bad thought, I think they are fine when they return to duty without any accumulated ill will, but I haven't tested this. If you already have Great skill level dwarves, though, be aware that {{L|Soldier#Heroes|heroes}} apparently get a very bad thought from being removed from duty.--[[User:Cali|Cali]] 02:08, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::::You are correct, I prefer to have a national guard style army. Typically I have them train as marksdwarves on their own time (if they have good ethics). Then, once they are decent at that I'll move them into another area. If you move them around between weapons, they can be legendary at shield/armor before ever hitting great at a weapon skill. I didn't realize that hammerdwarves are seriously unbalanced, though. Have you noticed that? I do have several heros (on accident) this time, though. My heros go off duty all the time, and I haven't noticed any bad thoughts. Maybe because they are legendary in their civilian jobs? I'll set up the schedules like you suggested and see what the sweat spot is.--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 03:03, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
::::::::I favor edged weapons for my military so I have little experience with hammerdwarves. I also don't take my heroes off duty and was basing my caution solely on what was stated on that page. I think your theory has merit, though; I wouldn't be surprised if that was an additional benefit of being legendary. --[[User:Cali|Cali]] 04:12, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

== XP gain chart ==

Should the XP gain chart in the 40d article be copied over to this one? [[Special:Contributions/70.231.247.165|70.231.247.165]] 18:17, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
:As the person who found <strike>most</strike> many of the values, I would recommend not. Instead, a paragraph stating that almost every task gains 30 exp, with mining and smoothing gaining 10, and military tasks having variable gains, would do the trick. It's pretty obvious that experience gain ''still'' hasn't been tuned. If and when, we'll want a table, but IMO a table with all 30's is unnecessary detail. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 16:40, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

v0.31 Talk:Strange mood

2011-07-02T18:16:00Z

0x517A5D: /* Possessed Mood Causes */

== Fell/Macabre Moods ==
I never had any of the moods that required dwarves to be depressed in 40d but I have a high master milker in a fey mood asking for body parts. will commit Dorfcide for science[[User:Cpad|Cpad]]
:'''''SCIENCE!!!'''''--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 01:19, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
man dwarves are hard to shred.killed a bunch of dwarves but the only parts that came off were teeth(Note use more violence next time) and the milker just sat in the craft shop then went berserk. Interestingly a dwarves "z" screen loses all the personality info when they go insane[[User:Cpad|Cpad]]

For what it's worth, I've seen a couple moods, saved to attempt different methods of reacting to them, and have noticed that Fey and Secretive work exactly as they did in 40d, apart from dwarves now requesting more different kinds of things. Perhaps we can update the 2010 page with some of the stuff from the 40d page at this point? --[[User:AzureShadow|AzureShadow]] 02:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

according to the bone article bones are now counted as body parts so I'm assuming that's what he was after [[User:Cpad|Cpad]] 13:15, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

A fey dwarf of mine just grabbed a shell that was laying about. So apparently those count too. (NINJAEDIT: Yes, he was screaming for body parts and not specifically shell)[[Special:Contributions/81.225.92.197|81.225.92.197]] 13:44, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, bone and shell as category are gone, they are now 'body parts'. Asking for them is common in a fey mood and you won't have to kill a dwarf for that. In fact, it wont even help you satisfy his needs. --[[User:Confused|Confused]]

I think most of my dwarves were unhappy about one of my starting dwarves dying, but I didn't check at the time. I've now got someone in a mood who has collected 3 large roach remains, and 1 firefly remains. She's brooding darkly, and the message is "Leave me. I need things... certain things"--[[Special:Contributions/78.151.176.4|78.151.176.4]] 15:59, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

It might be worth stating that the personal preferences of the moody dwarf seem to influence the material requirements. I had an armorsmith who had a preference for silver and wouldn't accept any of my ready metal bars. Once I smelted enough silver items she promptly got to work. Currently the page only states that the preferences affect the created item, but since the material requirements are what mostly confuse people it might be worth to spell this out explicitly. --[[User:Roblob|Roblob]] 09:08, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

From what I've seen 'till now, they only pick from stuff that's already available, but don't care if there's ''enough'' available. So if you have, say, 1 bar of silver and 10 of copper, and the dwarf needs 2 bars of silver, he'll still stand there demanding bars. --[[Special:Contributions/190.160.169.53|190.160.169.53]] 02:38, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

== Never Claiming a Workshop? ==
I have a dwarf hanging out in my dining hall in a secretive mood. He has not claimed ANY workshops, nor moved in nearly a month. He's about to go crazy, but I can't seem to even get him to a shop. Note, all workshops have been created (including fully powered magma forges/glass and non-magma equivalents) and every possible workshop is open and fully accessible. I'm not sure what to do :( His highest skill is in plant processing (13). Any suggestions for if this happens again? 00:59, 29 July 2010 69.134.0.97
:Please list all of his skills and the skill levels in them. Plant processing was not a "moodable" skill, one that can be selected as the skill that defines a strange mood, in old 40d, and I doubt that's changed. Check (t, then cursor over workshops) if any building component (marked with a <nowiki>[B]</nowiki> of any workshop is {forbidden}. And, if you have any burrows defined, be sure the moody dwarf is not a member of any of them. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 03:37, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
::His only other available skill was stonecrafting at level 1. Otherwise he totally lacked any industrial skills. I triple checked the three craftsdwarf stations I had, none of them were blocked, forbidden or otherwise inaccessible. No burrows had been generated. I scrapped the game or I could have posted the files. I'll see if it happens again, I'd never had the issue before. It is more than likely that I was at fault somehow, but I just couldn't find why. [[User:Nubcake|Nubcake]] 07:16, 29 July 2010

I just had this same issue. DF2010. Guy got fey mood and also happens to be expedition leader. Dabbling grower. Skilled appraiser. Novice Organizer. Talented Record Keeper. He's set as expedition leader, manager, bookkeeper, and broker. Did what 0x517A5D said above, no dice. Hope this helps --[[User:W-dueck|w-dueck]] 04:24, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:Did you have a craftsdwarfs workshop, which is what dwarfs with no moodable skills take?--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 06:01, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

I have this issue as well. high master armormsith, novice metal crafter, and adept pump operator. Obviously, he could take a metalsmith's forge, but he refuses to take either the conventional, or the magma versions. Just stands around at my well. [[User:Psychobones|Psychobones]] 00:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

== Body Parts? ==
I had a fey dorf scream for 'body parts' while four perfectly good raccoon bones stood nearby in a refuse stockpile. As the poor child was on the cusp of insanity, I slaughtered a mule and two puppies in desperation. Surprisingly, as soon as the puppy bones were made available, Urist McBonescreamer took them over to the Craftdwarf's Workshop without so much as a "how do you do". Why is there this distinction between different kinds of bone? [[Special:Contributions/81.86.135.171|81.86.135.171]] 22:34, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
quick edit: Mother of God, I've never seen anything like this. The child was only content with - I kid you not - '''''21''''' puppy bones in the end. Why so much goddamn bone? Seriously? 22:39, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

== Stopping at Nothing ==
It seems no matter what a dwarf will try to fulfill his mood. Even if his leg (and ribs) are broken he'll jump out of bed and find a workshop.--[[Special:Contributions/99.67.238.66|99.67.238.66]] 00:19, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
:Should've checked 40d first as it's confirmed that they do this in that version. I would like to know if the moody dwarves suffer the same effects of non moody dwarves with injuries while trying to find workshops (fainting, vomiting etc.).--[[Special:Contributions/99.67.238.66|99.67.238.66]] 00:24, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
== I think we need to do complete rearrange on mood materials ==

I got fey mood and dorf kept screaming for "rock bars" and logs. He picked up logs, but not rock blocks. This is either bug, or new stuff I haven't figured out yet.
--[[Special:Contributions/94.237.66.205|94.237.66.205]] 08:16, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Rock bars means metal bars, I think. That what satisfied my fey dorf.

:I can confirm this. I had no metal bars and ordered one to be smelted (it was iron bar), mood'd dwarf rushed to pick it up and finished construction. Most likely this is just a typo (rock -> metal) and nothing complicated like import bars etc. (as in comments below) [[User:Fuco|Fuco]] 02:05, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

:Are you sure it's not charcoal (edit: I meant coke) that they want? They could easily be considered 'rock' bars. I'm going to see now, I haven't got either now that he's collected my steel bars, so can check what he wants.--[[Special:Contributions/92.29.248.178|92.29.248.178]] 15:12, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

:My fey dwarf was not satisfied by my massive stockpile of metal bars, or the large amounts of (ore and not-ore) uncut stone, or the stone blocks I demanded produced en masse. I think rock bars are actually what he is looking for, and as they cannot be produced, I was forced to lose a metalsmith in a craftsdwarf's to a berserk rage, followed by two wrestlers and a pack of dogs. Tell him that it's a typo. --[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 03:15, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

:For me, ordinary metal bars were ignored until I made an adamantine wafer, but ymmv. --[[User:zergl|zergl]]

:On mine it's just taken an iron bar before the lazy bugger began working on his mysterious construction. --[[User:Mrchinchin25|Mrchinchin25]] 21:23, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

:: I just had a guy ask for "rock bars" and he took two steel bars from my stocks. Possible thing -- they were imported. Maybe only imported metal bars? --[[User:Waladil|Waladil]] 02:42, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

:::I can confirm, Asked for wood, rock blocks, rock bars; took fungiwood, dolomite blocks, and imported steel bars. Haven't had a second mood to try non-imports. --andrei901 21:04, 4 August 2010

:: I had a guy ask for "rock bars" and he wouldn't do anything until I realized my blocks were in my trade depot. He then took my gold bars. [

::In 0.31.06, my metalsmith interprets "rock bars" as rock block, which is rather confusing, because he also asked for "rock blocks". Item asked: Rocks, Rock bars, Rock blocks, Cut gems, Silk cloths, Metal bars. Items taken: Copper bars, Olivine blocks, Red beryls, Dacite, Giant cave spider silk cloth, Tanzanites, Dacite blocks, Wood opals. --[[User:Arkatufus|Arkatufus]] 13:44, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

::In my case "rock bars" meant iron bar as well, so it suggests metal bars. [[User:Boldwyn|Boldwyn]] 22:08, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

::I just had a fey dwarf asking for "rock bars". He wouldn't accept: rocks, rock blocks, grates, charcoal, iron bars (non-imported), electrum bars (non-imported), copper bars (bought at embark, marked ingame as imported), pig iron bars. Unfortunately he was "stricken by melancholy" just before I smelted some steel bars. v0.31.12 --[[Special:Contributions/91.193.86.67|91.193.86.67]] 10:36, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Shame. Armoursmith only wanted one bar. If anyone else gets a chance, I'd love to see a charcoal / coke armoured wrestler take on a magma man ;P 92.29.248.178, 18:39, 11 April 2010

I had a strange mood (possessed) with 17 dwarves, so the 'at least 20 dwarves' condition should be removed. Also, the dwarf was struck with the mood right after he migrated to my fort. Right after, as in he was still 2 tiles away from the edge of the map. 78.23.137.83, 15:32, 20 April 2010 
:I can confirm, 20 dwarfs are not needed for a mood.-[[User:Mhyder|mhyder]]
:So it does appear that mood trigger conditions have changed. I'll try to do some disassembly and report what I find. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 20:56, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
::(If anyone can find Truth, it's 0x5. He is personally responsible for 75%+ of the 40d info. You da man!)--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 21:05, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Every time I have one ask for rock bars, coke, charcoal, ash, or any kind of metal bar works. (Though, one time, the dwarf used soap.)(No, I don't know, either.) So, evidently, rocjk bars just means bars of any material.

- When my dwarf asked for Rock Bars I could fix it by making some iron bars.

I'm getting *rock bars* and have everything in my fortress. Is this a confirmed bug? Never imported metal or metal bars in my fortress history and reading the above it may be related to *imported* metal bars or perhaps crafting metal bars from imported metal (which would explain why some can craft a metal bar and have it work, while others are locked to imported..) however can we get to the bottom of this? I'm not losing a man.. uh.. dwarf over the situation..

I just got a dwarf demanding body parts, rock bars, rock blocks, and rock bars in 31.25. I'm not sure whether it's due to all the rearranging of the bar/block section that's been going on, but NOTHING is satisfying the rock bars request. (He has a stack of dog bones collected already.) Tried coke, ash, potash, pearlash, metal bars of all kinds (including an aluminum metal bar and an imported pig iron bar), and at least one block of every kind of rock, metal, and clay I could gather. Nothing works.

== Saving & reloading not changing mood type ==

Thanks to a crash, I had to reload my fortress, saved about a month before a strange mood. It occurred at roughly the same time, with the same dwarf, with the same type of mood. The item was different however.-[[User:Studoku|Studoku]] 14:06, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

:I believe that's expected behavior. The mood type, if I recall, is based on happiness of the dwarf, and thus should be consistent over loads. The type of craft is determined by their highest skill, unless they have no quality-based skill, in which case it's a toss up between useless woodcrafting, near-useless stonecrafting, and sweet sweet bonecarving. --[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 14:20, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::Mood types are ''generally'' not based on happiness and also not that hardwired to the state of the fort, meaning they are likely to change on reload. There are higher probabilities for some skills to get a mood and that makes it likely the same dwarf is chosen, esp. if the fort is small. There is a chance counter running down, usually resulting in a mood in the same time window on reload. What in fact has changed is that the item produced is determined on completion now, not on start out, allowing for even more <s>exploit</s> tweaking. --[[Special:Contributions/92.202.66.218|92.202.66.218]] 16:03, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== Body Parts ==

Just got a fey mood dwarf asking for them. -[[User:Studoku|Studoku]] 00:22, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

:He means bones or turtle shells. Get him some. --[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 02:01, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

:I think the word here is "or", I have a dwarf shouting for body parts while bones pile high around him, so I'm guessing it really is Bones '''or''' shell, not either. -The Anon

:I had this happen as well - I had six mussel shells laying around, nothing. Built a Butchery, slaughtered a horse, and he immediately snapped up the 13 bones, kept screaming for body parts and logs. So I sent a poor puppy to its doom for another 4 bones, and he immediately went to work. Debnetig, a enormous horse bone corkscrew! (That just sounds so wrong.)

:Confirmed: had ample bones and no shell. Processed some turtles into shells, and the fey dwarf made a dash for them and began a construction. Edit the "Strange mood" page to represent this? --[[User:Ritesign|Ritesign]] 02:56, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

== Possible Bug ==

I'm having an issue where occasionally a dwarf won't collect items I'm 100% sure I have available, i.e. he'll get leather and then ask for more even when more is clearly there, he'll ask for bones/wood when there's a stockpile right next to him, etc. I've tried just about everything including manually dumping the needed supplies on the Craftdwarf's workshop. Nothing seems to work and since it's happened to me many times, I'm thinking bug.--[[Special:Contributions/69.149.72.106|69.149.72.106]] 05:45, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

:Dwarves in moods will continue to ask for the same list they started out asking for, regardless of which items they've already collected. They also collect them in order. So if he asks for:

*leather
*body parts
*plant cloth
*rough gems
*leather

:and he already has leather, bones, and plant cloth, he'll keep repeating the same list until rough gems are available, then go get them, then get more leather, then begin a mysterious construction.--[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 12:19, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

::I may be seeing the same issue as above. I have a dwarf in a possessed mood locked in a workshop looking for:
::*rough...colour
::*stone...rock (has bauxite)
::*gems...shining (has indigo tourmalines)
::*tree...life (has palm logs)
::*bones...yes (has mule bones. I liked that mule)

::I'm unsure of the order they originally came up in, but of course I have uncut gems lying all over the place (including a store pile of cut and uncut gems about ten tiles away.)

::I'm also very new to DF, so I could be missing something. I'm going to save a copy of it as it is currently. [[User:Eddy the lip|Eddy the lip]] 19:25, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

:::He may want rough glass, instead of normal gems. Dwarves can be picky. --[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 19:27, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
::::If he wanted raw glass, he should've been mumbling "raw... [green/clear/crystal]". It was only in the old 2D version where "rough gems" (and its secretive/possessed equivalents) could occasionally mean "raw glass". --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 19:54, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

::::Yeah, rough glass didn't do it. I suppose there's the possibility that he requires a specific kind of rough gem. He has a preference for moss opals (I only have jelly opals.) If I can find some, and that works, I'll post back. Otherwise, I'll have to get work on the catacombs! [[User:Eddy the lip|Eddy the lip]] 20:18, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

::::Burrows also affect moody dwarves. If you have only a rock stockpile designated for the poor guy, he's trying to find bones and gems from within that burrow (stockpile).

== Magma Workshops ==
So, I just a had a Glassmaker be possessed and be unwilling (unable?) to claim a Magma glass furnace. When I built a regular furnace, he claimed it just fine and went on about his business. Not sure if this applies to all other magma disciplines, but if you're having this problem, try building a regular one (then deconstruct it afterwards, I guess). [[User:Rodya mirov|Rodya mirov]]
: A magma forge worked for me. Just make sure it doesn't get unpowered after it has been claimed because the dwarf immediately ran amok when this happened. [[Special:Contributions/84.46.87.224|84.46.87.224]] 11:45, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

I just had the same problem with a Magma forge; I used the same anvil to build a Metalsmith's forge below the old site and the dwarf happily claimed the MS F.[[Special:Contributions/76.29.33.118|76.29.33.118]] 18:35, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

I had the same problem with magma glass furnaces. Only normal glass furnaces will work.--[[Special:Contributions/24.8.192.250|24.8.192.250]] 21:36, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

== Obsidian Farming SCIENCE ==
Someone needs to figure out definitely whether obsidian farming allows more moods.

== 'Nother Possible Bug ==
Today I was tending the fortress when my bookkeeper went into a secretive mood while on break in the dining hall. He did not claim a workshop, he did not sketch anything. He just sat there, slowly losing his mind until he finally went insane. I'm not sure what I did wrong. Right now the game is paused with the still-insane dwarf just sitting amongst all the others. I'm afraid to unpause it because I really don't want to see what's going to happen to the little bastard. [[User:PurelyAtomic|PurelyAtomic]]

::Maybe you didn't have the workshop he needed? The symptoms seem to match. --[[User:Speed112|Speed112]] 01:01, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

:Later that year a different dwarf, a Stonecrafter, was possessed. He holed himself up in his workshop and made a Claystone scepter called the Stin Shadmal. It's worth a ridiculous amount. [[User:PurelyAtomic|PurelyAtomic]] 00:57, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== Yet another possible bug ==

My leatherworker was possessed, claimed a leather works, then wanted leather and cut gems. I tan a hide, cut about 7 or 8 gems, then about 20 minutes later, I see "Degel Zefonusan has begun a mysterious construction!". I go over, look at the items in the workshop, and find out he took 3 units of donkey leather. I think there should be some way of finding out how many of a certain thing he needs. This caused a lot of confusion for me.--[[User:Joejr50|Joejr50]] 20:18, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
: You can estimate the number of items by duration of each scream/sketch/muttering. If some particular material request shows longer than other, it means crafter needs several items of that type. But I never got requests of more than 3 items of one type. --[[User:Peregarrett|Peregarrett]] 12:12, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

== And another bug... ==

I've now had two dwarfs produce bone items from strange moods. In both cases, bone was requested (dwarfs had no skill) as well as various other goods - gems, cloth, leather, and rock - but the final artifact was a bone artifact with zero decoration. One dwarf was possessed, the other was a mysterious mood.

Anyone experience similar?--[[User:Nimblewright|Nimblewright]] 17:42, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:Yes - in fact, it was reported 3 weeks ago on the bug tracker: {{bug|2806}} --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 18:32, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

== Fell mood murder ==

I think it requires some clarification. Does the moody dwarf attack their victim, drag them to workshop and insta-kill them or insta-kill them on the place and then drag the corpse? --[[User:Someone-else|Someone-else]] 20:22, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:In 40d, the moody dwarf would insta-kill his victim wherever he/she was standing (without the victim even being able to defend itself, much like slaughtering), then drag the corpse to the workshop. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 20:45, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:I also had a fell mood murder in DF2010. It seems like it uses the same game mechanics as slaughtering (instant-kill without combat mechanics). --18:46, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

::I just had a Fell mood in 31.12. The Dwarf who undertook the mood first claimed a Tanner's shop then stalked the (corpse-strewn, gradually flooding) halls of my fortress for quite a while. Eventually, he grabbed an alread-dead Dwarf's corpse and hauled it back to the Tannery. And now... I have a lovely Dwarf Bone Cage which sadly will be lost soon when my fortress finishes self-destructing in an orgy of tantrums and doomsday-level flooding. [[Special:Contributions/71.232.137.20|71.232.137.20]] 04:59, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

:::Interesting, very interesting. I thought fell moods always involved a murder. Is there any chance that the dead dwarf was alive when the mood started? —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 12:16, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

::::I can not rule it out; at the time, Dwarves were dropping from starvation (as the food stockpile was cut off from the upper levels by flooded intermediate levels), so the "material" might have expired after the mood started. Its noteworthy that the Dwarf with the mood spent a lot of time first sitting on the workshop (as if he was missing a material), then wandering seemingly randomly through the fort. [[Special:Contributions/71.232.137.20|71.232.137.20]] 17:26, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

:In 31.11 my Fell mood dwarf claimed a magma forge, he proceeded to mull around the area and at a whim proceeded to murder my dwarf operating a magma furnace. He dragged the corpse to my magma forge and produced a dwarf bone short sword. So as far as I can tell, he kills them on site, not at the place they intend to process the dwarf. --[[User:Knossos|Knossos]] 08:10, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

== Skills affected by artifact creation ==

My miner got a fey mood, claimed mason workshop and created hematite table, decorated with giant toad bone and tube agate. Before getting mood he had miner, carpenter and bowyer labor skills, and now he is a legendary MINER! Making stone furniture now counts as digging experience?! --[[User:Peregarrett|Peregarrett]] 12:46, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:Oops. my fault. I always thought miner is not-moodable skill, but it was moodable even at 40d --[[User:Peregarrett|Peregarrett]] 13:48, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

== Possessed Mood Causes ==

Do we know for sure what causes Possessed moods? A few seconds after crushing twenty or so dwarves and various livestock beneath a drawbridge (great fun, lemme tell ya) a dwarf woke from his sleep due to a Possessed mood, and made an Aventurine scepter. Also, ''"On the item is an image of Zefon Stopchamber the dwarf in aventurine. Zefon Stopchamber is cringing. The artwork relates to the crushing of the dwarf Zefon Stopchamber under a drawbridge in Helmsball in the midautumn of 202."'' So, maybe Possessed moods are caused by recent deaths, or deceased friends? Just guessing here, maybe it was just coincidence, but interesting all the same. [[Special:Contributions/174.31.104.180|174.31.104.180]] 00:02, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
:Coincidence - as far as anybody knows, they're entirely random. The only moods that result from recent deaths or deceased friends are Fell/Macabre moods, and only because they happen when an unhappy dwarf enters a strange mood. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 00:18, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
:You might be on to something: I recall Toady mentioning ghosts a while ago. My newest fort also succumbed to thirst (2 miners survived) and I got 2 possessions for next two moods after migration (but due to rock bars problem it kinda didn't work out for them as I had sold my anvil for). [[Special:Contributions/90.191.16.52|90.191.16.52]] 10:39, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:: I'm aware of the next comment (about disassembly) and do believe it - yet I got another possession in the same damn castle; 3 out of 4. Is it possible that code is compiled yet never used? Still, chance works like this too. [[Special:Contributions/90.191.16.52|90.191.16.52]] 11:43, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Nope. A short glance at DF .08 with a [http://www.hex-rays.com/idapro/ disassembler that tracks code flow] shows only one path that reaches the message " has been possessed!" and it comes directly from the 0..2 random number test mentioned below. It's random, you've had slightly bad luck, but your experience is well within statistically expected results. You've essentially rolled a die four times, and gotten a 1 or 2 on three of the rolls. You might want to read about the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy Gambler's fallacy] a.k.a. the so-called [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_averages law of averages] and the fallacy of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization hasty generalization]. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 03:41, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:It's all a coincidence. I just disassembled the bit of the 0.31.08 strange mood that chooses mood type. It hasn't changed since the .40d days, except for excessive optimization by the compiler.
:*First, a random number between 0 and 49 is generated.
:*If that number is ''higher'' than the dwarf's current happiness scalar,
:**then a random number between 0 and 1 is generated.
:**0 results in a fell mood.
:**1 results in a macabre mood.
:*Otherwise,
:**a random number between 0 and 2 is generated.
:**0 results in a fey mood.
:**1 results in a secretive mood.
:**2 results in a possessed mood.
:Purely random. Disassembly available on request. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 04:19, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
::i have read and understood the above, but i'm not exactly sure that the '0/1/2' number is generated COMPLETELY at random. i think one of the factors at work is the dwarf's skills once they're selected for a 'strange mood' - if he has a 'moodable' skill, even 'dabbling'(prob.) or 'novice', then the dwarf will go to the corresponding workshop and increase that skill (quite possibly to legendary) with the +20,000 skillpoints on completion of the artifact. however, if the dwarf has no 'moodable' skill (i.e. only military skills, social skills or administrative skills), then they become 'possessed'. i'm basing this on the fact that i have had only ONE non-possessed mood, out of about 12; a clothier (who's now legendary). the rest have all, incredibly disappointingly, been 'possessed' (and yeah, i'm aware of the law of averages/etc). the reason my dwarves dont have any other skills is because they were all specialised from embark or migration, or military/haulers. thus, i only have 18 dwarves actively training a 'moodable' profession, out of 150+. the rest have probably lost their 'moodable' skills over the years from the 'rusting' effect, or simply not been selected. thoughts?--[[User:DJ Devil|DJ Devil]] 16:36, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
:::It's all a coincidence. Purely random. Disassembly available on request. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 14:57, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
:I just had my first Possessed Dwarf and it was a bonecrafter with no workshop. Didn't take much to work out what I needed to build but could the lack of a workshop related to their profession be a factor in the equation? I know as a fact that death isn't needed for one to happen as it's the 1st mood of a new fort and not even a tame stray has died yet. --[[Special:Contributions/124.180.132.157|124.180.132.157]] 06:07, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
::i do not think having a workshop (or not) affects which type of mood is selected. i think it's more like... 'happiness > skills > random number'. in effect; if your dwarf is happy, it will not be a 'fell' or 'macabre' mood. if your dwarf does NOT have a 'moodable' skill, then he'll be 'possessed'. if he DOES have a 'moodable' skill, it's a random number out of 3 for 'fey', 'secretive' or 'possessed'. and i would also like to confirm that 'dabbling' is enough to be counted as good enough for a mood - i had a dabbling mechanic (with no other 'moodable' skills) claim a mechanic's workshop, and surprisingly make a mechanism... and he wasnt 'possessed' like the others, he was 'fey'.--[[User:DJ Devil|DJ Devil]]
:::The availability of moodable skills has '''no effect at all''' on the type of mood - a completely unskilled Peasant is perfectly capable of going Fey or Secretive. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 21:38, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
::::I don't want to create an argument, just to clear it up. You ''claim'' that a Peasant can go Fey or Secretive, but is there evidence of it? If even a single dwarf were to enter a Fey or Secretive mood, who ''did not have any moodable skills prior'' (even at dabbling), this would disprove DJ Devil's hypothesis. Present a case where this has happened, and he should be satisfied. I would also like to see this evidence, as the only Possessed dwarves I've had were those without moodable skills - and those with had all (if I remember correctly) Fey or Secretive. --[[User:Drake1500|Drake1500]] 00:48, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
:::::Humans are really good as spotting patterns. We're so good at it that sometimes we see patterns where none actually exist. Mix in something as important to the game and as rare as strange moods, well, it's understandable that a player would want to know how to control them. But the reality is, moods are purely random. There are only two inputs into mood type selection, exactly as I said a year ago in this very section. The only control you have to prevent a possessed mood is to keep your dwarfs unhappy enough that all moods are fell or macabre. Here's the proof. This is part of the disassembly of the current version{{version|0.31.25}}'s mood selection code. I have shown all of the calculations for "good" moods, but skipped the choice between the two "bad" moods. Also, I have shown only one of the five pieces of code that set the mood type. They all work the same.
{{Spoil small|
<pre>
; This is the test that determines whether the dwarf will get a fell or
; macabre mood, or one of the happier moods.

; This HORRIBLE piece of code derives a random number in the inclusive
; range [0..49] decimal. It is so awful because it was compiled using
; full optimization (on a piece of code that runs once per hour at best.
; The whole binary is like this.)

; I am not going to work through all the math here, but I did run a
; test on this snippet. For all possible inputs, the output is in
; [0..49]. I assume it is normally distributed in the statistical sense.

call MT_RAND ; MT_RAND is the well-known Mersenne
; Twister random number generator.
mov ecx, eax
mov eax, 3
mul ecx
mov eax, ecx
sub eax, edx
shr eax, 1
add eax, edx
shr eax, 1Eh
imul eax, 80000001h
add ecx, eax
mov eax, 0C7FFFFFDh
mul ecx
mov ecx, a_creature_vector.Start ; This is one of the creature vectors.
; It is not the one that Dwarf Therapist uses,
; so it's probably not "main_creature_vector".
; This vector might contain only dwarfs.
mov eax, [ecx+edi*4] ; EDI is an index into that vector, so this
; selects the dwarf that is going to get a mood.
shr edx, 19h ; EDX now contains a random number in [0..49].

; !!!!!! THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PART !!!!!!
cmp edx, [eax+710h] ; 710 is the offset of the happiness scalar of
; the dwarf. (Verified with Dwarf Therapist.)

jge @@do_unhappy_mood ; We compared the random number with the dwarf's
; happiness. This chooses between good and bad
; moods.

; If we get here, we're doing a good mood.
; Now we generate a second random number, this time in [0..2].
; Again, I have verified that for all possible inputs, the output is in [0..2].

call MT_RAND

mov ecx, eax
mov eax, 3
mul ecx
mov eax, ecx
sub eax, edx
shr eax, 1
add eax, edx
shr eax, 1Eh
imul eax, 80000001h
add ecx, eax
mov eax, 0BFFFFFFFh
mul ecx
shr edx, 1Dh ; EDX now contains a random number in [0..2].

; !!!!!! THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PART !!!!!!
; We have generated a random number that is 0, 1, or 2. Now we figure out
; which of those possibilities it actually was, and branch accordingly.
sub edx, ZERO ; The ZERO is actually the EBX register, which
; was zeroed at the beginning of the routine
; and remains zero throughout.
jz @@fey_mood

dec edx
jz short @@secretive_mood

dec edx
jnz @@end_of_mood_setup ; This jump would skip the case statement if
; the tested value was not in [0..2].
; Above, we have seen that that can't happen.
@@possessed_mood:
mov ecx, a_creature_vector.Start
mov edx, [ecx+edi*4]
mov eax, 2 ; 2 is possessed mood.
mov [edx+210h], ax ; 210 is the offset for mood type.
mov ecx, a_creature_vector.Start
mov ecx, [ecx+edi*4]
push ZERO
lea edx, [esp+1F0h+a_message_string]
call prep_string_var

push 14h
mov eax, offset HasBeenPossessed ; " has been possessed!"
lea ecx, [esp+1F0h+a_message_string]
call fixedlength_ascii_to_string

mov edx, 5
mov word ptr [esp+1ECh+var_1BC+2], dx
mov byte ptr [esp+1ECh+var_1B8], 1
jmp @@end_of_mood_setup
</pre>
|Disassembly of mood choice code}}
:::::The takeaway here is that the branches in the code that choose moods (that's the instructions that start with 'j') depend solely on random numbers. There is nothing to tweak that will change this random outcome. Training doesn't affect it. Skill rust doesn't affect it. Availability of a workshop doesn't affect it. Whether the dwarf is wearing lucky socks doesn't affect it. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 20:20, 23 June 2011 (UTC) Edited to hide disassembly [[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 18:15, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

== Shells ==

Mussel shells count as shells along with turtle shells and cave lobster shells. Should change the page to include them .
: Cave lobsters don't produce shells anymore. Only turtle, oyster and mussel do - see [[DF2010:Shell|shell]] page.[[User:Peregarrett|Peregarrett]] 06:50, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

== Materials in hospitals ==

What I have found is that materials a dwarf need that that only exist in containers in hospitals will not be claimed until the container is removed and the material is liberated. Need a second check on this then it might be worth putting on this page. 05:34, 17 June 2010 Bungler
:That kind of makes sense, similar to how trader's goods can't be used. Did you try setting the level of material required by the hospital to 0? Incidentally, four tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> signs your talk page posts. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 10:21, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

== Metal working dwarves and magma workshops... ==

I doubt that this is a bug, but i think it needs further confirmation, i had a possessed metalsmith, who claimed a magma forge the moment the channel under it filled to workable status, but due to the fact that it wasn't completely full and lava was moving, the workshop momentarily lost "power". The dwarf immediately canceled the mood and went berserk. Now, i doubt that ''every'' moody metalsmith would do that, but more just do the general insanity thing and go any of the possible moods. Can anyone confirm this with their dorfs? v31.08 here, just for reference - [[User:Vrga|Vrga]] 06:51, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
*It's always been this way, even in 40d. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 14:46, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
**didn't know that, as its not stated ''anywhere'' at all... - [[User:Vrga|Vrga]] 11:38, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== Possessed Mood and Experience ==

So far under v31 I've had a handful of dorfs get possessed and build themselves an artifact. The wiki still says that Possessed dwarfs don't gain xp, but mine have all ended up Legendary in whatever skill they used at completion.
:Coincidence. Remember that the moodable skill with the highest experience level is the one chosen; it just happened that your possessed dwarves were already legendary. I just checked my disassembly of 0.31.06. All successful moods ''except possession'' gain 20,000 experience points; possessions go not gain anything. This is the same as its always been. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 02:37, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Mining exp? ==

A couple times my dwarves made artifacts (not possessed) at a mason's workshop, to become legendary miners. They do not appear to have gained skill in masonry or anything else like that. --[[User:Peglegpenguin|Peglegpenguin]] 20:11, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes mining is a moodable skill.It does not have a workshop so you must think of it like they made it with their picks. If I'm correct they will take either a masonry or crafsworkshop and make their artifact there.

== Population of 20+==

According to Tarn in Dwarf Talk 7, in order for a fey mood to occur you must have a population of 20 or more for the mood to occur. So I really think we should have this in the article. [[User:Sadron|Sadron]] 19:00, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
:That was specifically removed from the article because two people, Anonymous-78.23.137.83 and [[User:mhyder|mhyder]], have reported moods with less than 20 dwarves. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 22:27, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
::I see, however were they able to provide evidence for it? [[User:Sadron|Sadron]] 01:51, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:::The claims are on this page, about halfway down. No evidence was presented, nor requested. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 18:29, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
I have had one with 11 dwarfs.
(I had had twenty, nine were slaughtered by goblins, (And zombies) and before more came, one went into a fey mood.)

::::Could it be that you need to BREAK a pop of 20 for one to be able to trigger? Perhaps even as specific as when the mood is brewing (before your notified) you have to have more then 20 but that stop it in the case of say a goblin slaughter...
::::--[[Special:Contributions/124.180.132.157|124.180.132.157]] 06:11, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

:::::No, that is not the case. I've just played two quick forts, and my first mood happened very quickly after the first of the two scripted immigration waves both games. I started with 14 dwarves both games.
::::: The first game was 14 + 7 = 21 Dwarves before the mood happened, 2 days after the immigrants arrived.
::::: The second game was 14 + 3 = 17 Dwarves before the mood happened, 8 days after the immigrants arrived.

:::::Could be coincidence, but I'm guessing the new trigger is either between 15 and 17 dwarves, or not related to the number of dwarves. --[[User:Naros|Naros]] 07:23, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

== Other requests ==

Right now i'm having a dorf (metal crafter) who is in a fey mood and asks for "adamantine wafers", exactly. Of course, he got it, just stopped on "body parts", which i have 200 at hand, no burrows. He's just a little bitch.
Oh, sorry, DF 31.10, [[Special:Contributions/78.140.48.35|78.140.48.35]] 08:12, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:It happens fairly often (and even back in 40d) that a moody metalsmith will insist on a very specific metal. In most cases, that metal would be the dwarf's favorite metal, but I always observed that once I had struck raw adamantine, all moody metalsmiths would insist on using adamantine wafers. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 12:53, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

== Strange problem with moods ==

I was wondering if anyone else had this problem. I've already had 2 dwarves go insane because they couldn't get materials for an artifact. Everything they ask for is in my fort, and there are no burrow restrictions or anything forbidden. It seems to only happen when they take over a clothier's workshop (which has no restrictions on it, BTW) and ask for cloth - even though there is a huge stockpile of cloth right next to the workshop. I have a third dwarf currently doing the same thing and I actually want to save his life for once. [[Special:Contributions/98.228.196.111|98.228.196.111]] 21:39, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
: Do you have both silk and plant cloth? Both are requested as "stacked cloth" but aren't equivalent for secretive moody dwarf. Same for posessed one.[[User:Peregarrett|Peregarrett]] 06:55, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
: Also, it's possible that he wants a piece of cloth which is stored in a hospital. He can't take it out of there and so he'll go insane waiting to get it. My solution was to de-zone the hospital and unbuild all the chests inside it, allowing him to grab the cloth that he wants.--[[Special:Contributions/208.81.12.34|208.81.12.34]] 12:57, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Woodcrafter mood? ==

I had a woodcrafter get a secretive mood. He claimed a mechanics shop. Clearly he should have claimed a craftsdwarf shop. I checked his stats and sure enough, both woodcrafting and mechanics were proficient, among other mood skills. I don't use any other DF tools, so I couldn't see the exact experience levels. My hypothesis is one of two things. First, perhaps the skill had rusted, but that the change doesn't get reflected in their professions? Second, perhaps both were exactly the same skill level. Moods pick a random one, or pick one different from the one the title uses? Anyone seen something like this?--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 12:10, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
:Were both skills equal? Perhaps he migrated in as a proficient woodcrafter and mechanic? It may be that it only regards the level of their proficiency rather than their EXP value for it. --[[User:Eurytus|Eurytus]] 20:21, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::In the previous major release, the skill with the most experience points was used; the level was not considered. I don't see any reason for that to have changed. I would suspect rust. Savegame? —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 21:24, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Old, but for posterity - dwarf profession only changes when the old profession is *outleveled* by the new profession. So its perfectly possible your Woodcrafter had more xp in Mechanics, just not enough to put him a level of mechanics over his woodcrafter level and thus change his profession to Mechanic. --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 05:26, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

== Magma Forge vs. Normal Forge ==

I had a Dwarf who got the Fey mood and didnt want to claim a Workshop. I built any possible Workshop, except a Forge, since I had a Magma Forge. The Dwarf didnt accept the Magma Forge but when i disassemled it and built a Normal Metlsmiths Forge he claimed it immediately. So it seems for moody dwarfs thats not the same. -- Blue Crake 30.10.10
:Yes, this sometimes happens. Reported above, item #9. Also reported several times on the 40d Talk Strange Mood page. I'm glad you figured out the workaround. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 22:40, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
I wrote that to tell, that this is the case for the forge too, not only the glassmaker. I can`t find anything about this in the mainpage of DF2010 Moods. Shouldn`t it be here as well, as long as this bug (is it a bug or rather a caveat?) exists? Needing a normal forge is kinda counterintuitive, as moody dwarfs dont use fuel anyway. Also do moody dwarfs always take nonmagma-buildings or just sometimes? --[[User:Blue Crake|Blue Crake]] 10:42, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

This seems like a bug to me, why does normal vs. magma matter? It really shouldn't. Just want to make sure this is noted as bug. – [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Pathaugen|Pathaugen]]
: It's not a bug, it's a feature. Maybe the dwarf doesn't like worrying about having his shiny artifact, or the components thereof, falling into a pool of magma through a careless elbow. Maybe the dwarf prefers working in a cooler environment. Or maybe the decision software merely selects the first type of workshop that can handle the strange mood, and it would be annoying to the developer to make it select magma workshops if you have only them, and non-magma workshops if you have only those. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 21:38, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

:: Being alpha, it's important to note intended vs. 'for now' interworkings so there is a nice wish list of how the game can improve in the future. Sure that's how it may work because of the programming, but with that mindset, the game is done and nothing else needs to change? I just think it's healthy having discussion instead of just putting all ideas off as nonsense because that's the way it is and always should be. [[User:Pathaugen|Pathaugen]] 05:22, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

:::I thoroughly agree with DeMatt here. This wiki is about how the game ''does'' operate, not how it ''should'' operate. There's no point in putting future-development wish-lists here - those belong on the bay12games forums. [[Special:Contributions/202.156.10.234|202.156.10.234]] 02:30, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

::::Not his point, it should be listed as a known bug if it is such. As you said it is the ''alpha'' so we can expect changes, especially the removal of bugs. That way as a wiki we can keep readers informed of likely version changes. :P
::::--[[Special:Contributions/124.180.132.157|124.180.132.157]] 06:15, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

== Highest experience skill not chosen ==

I just had a dwarf have a fey mood who had 3180 xp in metalcrafting and 3000 in all the other metalworking skills. I was expecting to get a legendary blacksmith out of the deal, which I really could have used, but instead she ended up making a crossbow and being a legendary weapon smith (which I already had...) So apparently they don't always take the highest xp, perhaps its actually just picked at random amongst the highest talent level, since by level all 4 moodable skills were equal.
[[User:Barbarossa6969|Barbarossa6969]] 15:26, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== multiple items not always displayed longer ==

Regarding the "2 seconds per item needed" rule, I've found that it doesn't always apply. I've seen certain materials displayed for the same 2 seconds as everything else, but sometimes (not always) multiples of the material are collected. I've seen it happen with (at least) wood, bone, and cloth, and usually (always?) in threes. I think it also tends to be the ''primary'' material (1st thing gathered, and the thing the artifact is eventually listed as being made from), but I'm not as sure about that. It's an important point, and might be the cause of many of the complaints of "he said he needed X, and I had plenty of X around!" (i.e. he actually needed more X-1) [[Special:Contributions/202.156.10.234|202.156.10.234]] 01:54, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

:Just had this happen again, this time with rough gems as the primary material. "rough gems" displayed the normal two seconds, two rough gems gathered, (not three). The same artifact also required 2 logs (as secondary materials, not primary) and "wood logs" was displayed the expected 4 seconds, which seems to confirm it's the primary material that does it. I'll add it to the page with a verify tag.

::I just had a child take over a craftshop for a fey mood. She demanded "body parts" and "rocks", both displayed for two seconds each. When she finally started working on her artifact it was only after grabbing two different stacks of bones. The artifact was a deer bone short sword with hanging rings of badger bone and spikes of mudstone. I'm running v0.31.25. [[User:Krenshala|Krenshala]]

== Random mood crafting. ==

One of my dwarves got a possessed mood during a stage where I'm still setting up my various workshops. The only moodable skill he had was Tanning, so I built a leatherworks and tanner's shop, but he still just hung around the meeting area. I decided to ignore him and set up a craftsdwarf workshop for another reason, and suddenly this dwarf goes and claims it. Is it possible that moods, possibly just possessed moods, can choose skills that the dwarf does not have in the slightest? will update when the item is finished --[[User:Twilightdusk|Twilightdusk]] 02:58, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

:I'm thinking he's using the craftdwarf's workshop because of its "Make leather crafts" option. --[[User:Peglegpenguin|Peglegpenguin]] 03:36, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

:I have a possessed bonecrafter and I made the 'incredible' guess of what workshop (a craftdwarf's workshop) i needed to build to get the lazy sod out of bed. I'm confident it's atleast highly probable they will pick a skill they have, probability increasing with exp in that (or those) skills.
:--[[Special:Contributions/124.180.132.157|124.180.132.157]] 06:18, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

== Rock Blocks in Strange Mood ==
One of my clothesmaker dwarves decided to get a strange mood, so I afforded him all his needed materials, except for one thing: rock blocks. He most certainly asked for them, and I decided to make metal blocks, just to see if he would take them. I made an electrum block and he took it right away and began to work. I suggest stone blocks be changed to stone/metal blocks in the demands section.
--[[Special:Contributions/173.48.59.215|173.48.59.215]] 23:45, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

== Farmer + Strange Mood = Legendary Weaponsmith ==
Not complaining, but I just had a High Master Grower / Adequate Herbalist "withdraw from society...", I examined her skills to see what was coming, and not seeing any moodable skills, fully expected her to claim a craftdwarf's workshop, but was pleasantly surprised to find she had claimed a metalsmith's forge and created a golden crossbow, elevating her to legendary weaponsmith! There was nothing in her personality to explain this odd occurrence (she does however, like chestnuts for their chestnuts). This is of course contrary to what the [[Strange Mood]] page states. Perhaps the rules have changed. --[[User:Uninvited Guest|Uninvited Guest]] 21:07, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
:Perhaps she arrived with some Weaponsmith skill that completely rusted away while you had her do farming instead? --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 00:46, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
::I thought about that as well, but I didn't realize that skills actually disappeared. The [[Skills]] page does not state that but looking closer in the talk page, it appears to be true. All things considered, your theory is quite likely. Thanks. --[[User:Uninvited Guest|Uninvited Guest]] 01:28, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

== Starvation/Dehydration ==
Can a dwarf die from either while in a mood?

:No, AFAIK it's like when they Trance in combat. All need for food / water / sleep vanishes for the duration. Could be wrong. May require !!science!!.

== Dwarf not using available materials? ==

Do the materials that a dwarf in a mood wants have to be on the same z-level/in a stockpile/nearby? I had one in a fey mood who appeared to be asking for jet (at least, that's what it said when I viewed the workshop he was using with the q key), and I had ridiculous amounts of jet two levels down, but he never moved to get it and eventually just went insane. (I tried to get the other dwarves to move some up to where he was, but they didn't do anything. ><)--[[Special:Contributions/118.208.147.173|118.208.147.173]] 09:39, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:Dwarves don't demand specific types of stones - if he didn't gather the material, you probably didn't have it at all. What '''exactly''' was the dwarf asking for (and what had the dwarf gathered so far)? --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 13:48, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
::He asked for two things: rock and body parts. He'd already got the body parts. I had plenty of other kinds of stone as well, so maybe I missed a line or something? --[[Special:Contributions/118.208.147.173|118.208.147.173]] 10:34, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

== "The type of artifact created will depend on the dwarf's highest skill." - what with soaper? ==

Yes, talented soaper. [[Special:Contributions/213.134.175.225|213.134.175.225]] 22:04, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

== Fun fact ==
Clothier dorf can pick a clothier's workshop, go pick up adamantine cloth (not normally workable at a clothier's), attempt to make a rope out of it (because you can do that at a clothier's), and wind up making an adamantine chain. —[[User:Chaos|Chaos]] 21:20, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
:Indeed - I've had that happen at least once back in 40d. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 22:01, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

==Yet Another Bone Carving Bug==
I had a possessed bone carver claim a Craftdwarf's workshop, immediately run off and grab a bone, start a mysterious construction, sit in the workshop for months, then go insane. I honestly have no idea what to think about that. —[[User:Exploratory Mushroom|Exploratory Mushroom]] 22:44, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

:Just speculation, but was the workshop cluttered? Some animals leave huge stacks of bone (e.g Jabberer can be >200), and certain animal skulls (e.g. Jabberer, again) can make a workshop **CLT** all by itself. With the length of time some artifacts take to construct, I can imagine a maximally cluttered workshop might stretch the creation time out for months [[Special:Contributions/202.156.10.234|202.156.10.234]] 22:48, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

== Clothier won't take materials ==

I have a possessed clothier who needs cloth and silk. I have both, but she just sits at the workshop and will go insane unless I figure out why she won't take the materials. They are both giant cave spider materials right next to each other up the staircase right by the workshop. I also have rope reed thread somewhere that I bought from an elven caravan, but she won't take that either. What's going on?
:There are two versions of "cloth... thread" that "possessed" Dwarves could be asking for. What they are saying is a little misleading; rather than them wanting actual thread, they are only asking for cloth. It is likely that the affected Dwarf wants ''plant fiber cloth'', '''not''' silk cloth or plant fiber thread. If you have some plant fiber cloth thread, as you said, make it into cloth and it should work. For future reference, this is a talk page about the Strange mood article, not a discussion forum. Please ask questions like this on the [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?board=7.0 Official Dwarf Fortress Forums], [http://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/ /r/dwarffortress at reddit.com],or the other Dwarf Fortress community of your choice. --[[User:Gzalzi|Gzalzi]] 14:45, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
::Oh, thanks. I asked this here because every other topic seems to be discussion, but okay... [[User:OrangePikmin|OrangePikmin]] 19:47, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Yeah, they are all discussions, but they're not supposed to be. --[[User:Gzalzi|Gzalzi]] 21:13, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

== Fell Moods with different workshops? ==
Just played a round of DF and my little fortress got besieged, several dwarfes died. One dwarf then got a Fell mood and went to CARPENTER Workshop. He claimed it and went off to kill the nearest dwarf. Is it possible that the fell moods only prefer butcher- and tanner workshops, but they will work with other workshops as well? Seemed a little bit odd to me that he used a carpentry workshop...

==Do Dwarves Steal==
I had a dwarf refusing to do anything but demand rock. Which is weird in itself, as rocks are plentiful underground. Then, just as I gave her up for lost, I saw her grab a hunk of galena from the trade depot. It was in ( ), and I certainly didn't trade for it, as I have galena in the fortress. Did she grab it off a merchant? [[Special:Contributions/68.197.174.59|68.197.174.59]] 19:16, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
:I think starving dwarves will steal food from traders. So I'm not too surprised that a moody dwarf would take something that is technically fortress property. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 23:49, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
::I've observed Dwarves stealing from caravans for moods on more than one occasion. It doesn't appear to happen with every mood where they're missing something, so it might have to do with the type of mood or the personality of the moody dwarf. --[[User:SethCreiyd|SethCreiyd]] 17:31, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

==cloth... thread...==
i think i can confirm this also means 'cloth(yarn)' for possessed dwarves, based on having both silk and plant fibre cloth AND thread available, in stockpiles nearby, but my possessed dwarf not going for either. there were also a number of other items on his list, but he'd found them all, and had them 'TSK'ed in the workshop. unfortunately, i'd left him to it too long (thinking he had all the items at his disposal, and would get going with it unsupervised) before i'd recognised he wasnt interested in the cloth available, and wanted some of the new yarn. he'd gone insane before i could sheer any animals, and weave it into cloth.--[[User:DJ Devil|DJ Devil]] 16:50, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

==Infinite logs loop?==
This might possibly be because my dwarf likes mahogany logs and only has one of them, but it seems that all of the TSK'd items (more than 30 already) are logs and there are still things that my dwarf needs. Like metal bars, thread, etc. I had to set burrows to get my dwarf out of the workshop to get more items as well. 07:57, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
:See [[Planepacked]]. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 14:58, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

==New skills not moodable==
I haven't checked the entirety of the FOTF forum thread, but has anything been said about the new craftsdwarf skills like Potter and Waxworker becoming moodable. I like having a full complement of legendary craftsdwarves... because I'm anal retentive like that. [[Special:Contributions/199.67.140.44|199.67.140.44]] 00:46, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
:I've checked against a disassembly, and I can't find evidence that any of the new skills are moodable - there's a big table that maps moodable skills to the actual Strange Mood job selected (i.e. which workshop they claim and what kind of item they produce), and that table only goes up to the "Mechanic" skill. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 03:01, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

== Profession != Highest skill ==
Just thought I should point this out. The article states: "The deciding factor for eligibility is a dwarf's actual profession." however, evidence here suggests that it is the ''highest skill'' of the dwarf that matters. In most cases these are the same thing, but not always. AFAIK a peasant needs to reach novice skill before changing profession, so would a peasant with dabbling weaponsmith skill entering a mood choose to make a weapon, or enter an 'unskilled' mood? --[[Special:Contributions/213.121.247.101|213.121.247.101]] 13:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
:The profession check is for '''whether a dwarf can enter a mood at all''' - Soldiers (excluding Recruits) and Babies can '''never''' enter a strange mood (and neither can some special ones that you can't get anyways, such as Merchant or Drunk), but all others are eligible. Note that the profession is also what determines a dwarf's '''likelihood''' of entering a strange mood - armorers, blacksmiths, etc. are 4 times as likely to get mood as than engravers or miners (see the "Chance" table). Once the dwarf is chosen to enter a mood, '''then''' it checks for their highest moodable skill - a Peasant with Dabbling skill in Weaponsmithing (and no other moodable skills) will claim a metalsmith's forge and produce an artifact weapon. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 13:10, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

v0.31 Talk:Strange mood

2011-06-23T20:20:10Z

0x517A5D: /* Possessed Mood Causes */

== Fell/Macabre Moods ==
I never had any of the moods that required dwarves to be depressed in 40d but I have a high master milker in a fey mood asking for body parts. will commit Dorfcide for science[[User:Cpad|Cpad]]
:'''''SCIENCE!!!'''''--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 01:19, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
man dwarves are hard to shred.killed a bunch of dwarves but the only parts that came off were teeth(Note use more violence next time) and the milker just sat in the craft shop then went berserk. Interestingly a dwarves "z" screen loses all the personality info when they go insane[[User:Cpad|Cpad]]

For what it's worth, I've seen a couple moods, saved to attempt different methods of reacting to them, and have noticed that Fey and Secretive work exactly as they did in 40d, apart from dwarves now requesting more different kinds of things. Perhaps we can update the 2010 page with some of the stuff from the 40d page at this point? --[[User:AzureShadow|AzureShadow]] 02:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

according to the bone article bones are now counted as body parts so I'm assuming that's what he was after [[User:Cpad|Cpad]] 13:15, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

A fey dwarf of mine just grabbed a shell that was laying about. So apparently those count too. (NINJAEDIT: Yes, he was screaming for body parts and not specifically shell)[[Special:Contributions/81.225.92.197|81.225.92.197]] 13:44, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, bone and shell as category are gone, they are now 'body parts'. Asking for them is common in a fey mood and you won't have to kill a dwarf for that. In fact, it wont even help you satisfy his needs. --[[User:Confused|Confused]]

I think most of my dwarves were unhappy about one of my starting dwarves dying, but I didn't check at the time. I've now got someone in a mood who has collected 3 large roach remains, and 1 firefly remains. She's brooding darkly, and the message is "Leave me. I need things... certain things"--[[Special:Contributions/78.151.176.4|78.151.176.4]] 15:59, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

It might be worth stating that the personal preferences of the moody dwarf seem to influence the material requirements. I had an armorsmith who had a preference for silver and wouldn't accept any of my ready metal bars. Once I smelted enough silver items she promptly got to work. Currently the page only states that the preferences affect the created item, but since the material requirements are what mostly confuse people it might be worth to spell this out explicitly. --[[User:Roblob|Roblob]] 09:08, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

From what I've seen 'till now, they only pick from stuff that's already available, but don't care if there's ''enough'' available. So if you have, say, 1 bar of silver and 10 of copper, and the dwarf needs 2 bars of silver, he'll still stand there demanding bars. --[[Special:Contributions/190.160.169.53|190.160.169.53]] 02:38, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

== Never Claiming a Workshop? ==
I have a dwarf hanging out in my dining hall in a secretive mood. He has not claimed ANY workshops, nor moved in nearly a month. He's about to go crazy, but I can't seem to even get him to a shop. Note, all workshops have been created (including fully powered magma forges/glass and non-magma equivalents) and every possible workshop is open and fully accessible. I'm not sure what to do :( His highest skill is in plant processing (13). Any suggestions for if this happens again? 00:59, 29 July 2010 69.134.0.97
:Please list all of his skills and the skill levels in them. Plant processing was not a "moodable" skill, one that can be selected as the skill that defines a strange mood, in old 40d, and I doubt that's changed. Check (t, then cursor over workshops) if any building component (marked with a <nowiki>[B]</nowiki> of any workshop is {forbidden}. And, if you have any burrows defined, be sure the moody dwarf is not a member of any of them. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 03:37, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
::His only other available skill was stonecrafting at level 1. Otherwise he totally lacked any industrial skills. I triple checked the three craftsdwarf stations I had, none of them were blocked, forbidden or otherwise inaccessible. No burrows had been generated. I scrapped the game or I could have posted the files. I'll see if it happens again, I'd never had the issue before. It is more than likely that I was at fault somehow, but I just couldn't find why. [[User:Nubcake|Nubcake]] 07:16, 29 July 2010

I just had this same issue. DF2010. Guy got fey mood and also happens to be expedition leader. Dabbling grower. Skilled appraiser. Novice Organizer. Talented Record Keeper. He's set as expedition leader, manager, bookkeeper, and broker. Did what 0x517A5D said above, no dice. Hope this helps --[[User:W-dueck|w-dueck]] 04:24, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:Did you have a craftsdwarfs workshop, which is what dwarfs with no moodable skills take?--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 06:01, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

I have this issue as well. high master armormsith, novice metal crafter, and adept pump operator. Obviously, he could take a metalsmith's forge, but he refuses to take either the conventional, or the magma versions. Just stands around at my well. [[User:Psychobones|Psychobones]] 00:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

== Body Parts? ==
I had a fey dorf scream for 'body parts' while four perfectly good raccoon bones stood nearby in a refuse stockpile. As the poor child was on the cusp of insanity, I slaughtered a mule and two puppies in desperation. Surprisingly, as soon as the puppy bones were made available, Urist McBonescreamer took them over to the Craftdwarf's Workshop without so much as a "how do you do". Why is there this distinction between different kinds of bone? [[Special:Contributions/81.86.135.171|81.86.135.171]] 22:34, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
quick edit: Mother of God, I've never seen anything like this. The child was only content with - I kid you not - '''''21''''' puppy bones in the end. Why so much goddamn bone? Seriously? 22:39, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

== Stopping at Nothing ==
It seems no matter what a dwarf will try to fulfill his mood. Even if his leg (and ribs) are broken he'll jump out of bed and find a workshop.--[[Special:Contributions/99.67.238.66|99.67.238.66]] 00:19, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
:Should've checked 40d first as it's confirmed that they do this in that version. I would like to know if the moody dwarves suffer the same effects of non moody dwarves with injuries while trying to find workshops (fainting, vomiting etc.).--[[Special:Contributions/99.67.238.66|99.67.238.66]] 00:24, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
== I think we need to do complete rearrange on mood materials ==

I got fey mood and dorf kept screaming for "rock bars" and logs. He picked up logs, but not rock blocks. This is either bug, or new stuff I haven't figured out yet.
--[[Special:Contributions/94.237.66.205|94.237.66.205]] 08:16, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Rock bars means metal bars, I think. That what satisfied my fey dorf.

:I can confirm this. I had no metal bars and ordered one to be smelted (it was iron bar), mood'd dwarf rushed to pick it up and finished construction. Most likely this is just a typo (rock -> metal) and nothing complicated like import bars etc. (as in comments below) [[User:Fuco|Fuco]] 02:05, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

:Are you sure it's not charcoal (edit: I meant coke) that they want? They could easily be considered 'rock' bars. I'm going to see now, I haven't got either now that he's collected my steel bars, so can check what he wants.--[[Special:Contributions/92.29.248.178|92.29.248.178]] 15:12, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

:My fey dwarf was not satisfied by my massive stockpile of metal bars, or the large amounts of (ore and not-ore) uncut stone, or the stone blocks I demanded produced en masse. I think rock bars are actually what he is looking for, and as they cannot be produced, I was forced to lose a metalsmith in a craftsdwarf's to a berserk rage, followed by two wrestlers and a pack of dogs. Tell him that it's a typo. --[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 03:15, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

:For me, ordinary metal bars were ignored until I made an adamantine wafer, but ymmv. --[[User:zergl|zergl]]

:On mine it's just taken an iron bar before the lazy bugger began working on his mysterious construction. --[[User:Mrchinchin25|Mrchinchin25]] 21:23, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

:: I just had a guy ask for "rock bars" and he took two steel bars from my stocks. Possible thing -- they were imported. Maybe only imported metal bars? --[[User:Waladil|Waladil]] 02:42, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

:::I can confirm, Asked for wood, rock blocks, rock bars; took fungiwood, dolomite blocks, and imported steel bars. Haven't had a second mood to try non-imports. --andrei901 21:04, 4 August 2010

:: I had a guy ask for "rock bars" and he wouldn't do anything until I realized my blocks were in my trade depot. He then took my gold bars. [

::In 0.31.06, my metalsmith interprets "rock bars" as rock block, which is rather confusing, because he also asked for "rock blocks". Item asked: Rocks, Rock bars, Rock blocks, Cut gems, Silk cloths, Metal bars. Items taken: Copper bars, Olivine blocks, Red beryls, Dacite, Giant cave spider silk cloth, Tanzanites, Dacite blocks, Wood opals. --[[User:Arkatufus|Arkatufus]] 13:44, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

::In my case "rock bars" meant iron bar as well, so it suggests metal bars. [[User:Boldwyn|Boldwyn]] 22:08, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

::I just had a fey dwarf asking for "rock bars". He wouldn't accept: rocks, rock blocks, grates, charcoal, iron bars (non-imported), electrum bars (non-imported), copper bars (bought at embark, marked ingame as imported), pig iron bars. Unfortunately he was "stricken by melancholy" just before I smelted some steel bars. v0.31.12 --[[Special:Contributions/91.193.86.67|91.193.86.67]] 10:36, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Shame. Armoursmith only wanted one bar. If anyone else gets a chance, I'd love to see a charcoal / coke armoured wrestler take on a magma man ;P 92.29.248.178, 18:39, 11 April 2010

I had a strange mood (possessed) with 17 dwarves, so the 'at least 20 dwarves' condition should be removed. Also, the dwarf was struck with the mood right after he migrated to my fort. Right after, as in he was still 2 tiles away from the edge of the map. 78.23.137.83, 15:32, 20 April 2010 
:I can confirm, 20 dwarfs are not needed for a mood.-[[User:Mhyder|mhyder]]
:So it does appear that mood trigger conditions have changed. I'll try to do some disassembly and report what I find. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 20:56, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
::(If anyone can find Truth, it's 0x5. He is personally responsible for 75%+ of the 40d info. You da man!)--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 21:05, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Every time I have one ask for rock bars, coke, charcoal, ash, or any kind of metal bar works. (Though, one time, the dwarf used soap.)(No, I don't know, either.) So, evidently, rocjk bars just means bars of any material.

- When my dwarf asked for Rock Bars I could fix it by making some iron bars.

I'm getting *rock bars* and have everything in my fortress. Is this a confirmed bug? Never imported metal or metal bars in my fortress history and reading the above it may be related to *imported* metal bars or perhaps crafting metal bars from imported metal (which would explain why some can craft a metal bar and have it work, while others are locked to imported..) however can we get to the bottom of this? I'm not losing a man.. uh.. dwarf over the situation..

I just got a dwarf demanding body parts, rock bars, rock blocks, and rock bars in 31.25. I'm not sure whether it's due to all the rearranging of the bar/block section that's been going on, but NOTHING is satisfying the rock bars request. (He has a stack of dog bones collected already.) Tried coke, ash, potash, pearlash, metal bars of all kinds (including an aluminum metal bar and an imported pig iron bar), and at least one block of every kind of rock, metal, and clay I could gather. Nothing works.

== Saving & reloading not changing mood type ==

Thanks to a crash, I had to reload my fortress, saved about a month before a strange mood. It occurred at roughly the same time, with the same dwarf, with the same type of mood. The item was different however.-[[User:Studoku|Studoku]] 14:06, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

:I believe that's expected behavior. The mood type, if I recall, is based on happiness of the dwarf, and thus should be consistent over loads. The type of craft is determined by their highest skill, unless they have no quality-based skill, in which case it's a toss up between useless woodcrafting, near-useless stonecrafting, and sweet sweet bonecarving. --[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 14:20, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::Mood types are ''generally'' not based on happiness and also not that hardwired to the state of the fort, meaning they are likely to change on reload. There are higher probabilities for some skills to get a mood and that makes it likely the same dwarf is chosen, esp. if the fort is small. There is a chance counter running down, usually resulting in a mood in the same time window on reload. What in fact has changed is that the item produced is determined on completion now, not on start out, allowing for even more <s>exploit</s> tweaking. --[[Special:Contributions/92.202.66.218|92.202.66.218]] 16:03, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== Body Parts ==

Just got a fey mood dwarf asking for them. -[[User:Studoku|Studoku]] 00:22, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

:He means bones or turtle shells. Get him some. --[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 02:01, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

:I think the word here is "or", I have a dwarf shouting for body parts while bones pile high around him, so I'm guessing it really is Bones '''or''' shell, not either. -The Anon

:I had this happen as well - I had six mussel shells laying around, nothing. Built a Butchery, slaughtered a horse, and he immediately snapped up the 13 bones, kept screaming for body parts and logs. So I sent a poor puppy to its doom for another 4 bones, and he immediately went to work. Debnetig, a enormous horse bone corkscrew! (That just sounds so wrong.)

:Confirmed: had ample bones and no shell. Processed some turtles into shells, and the fey dwarf made a dash for them and began a construction. Edit the "Strange mood" page to represent this? --[[User:Ritesign|Ritesign]] 02:56, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

== Possible Bug ==

I'm having an issue where occasionally a dwarf won't collect items I'm 100% sure I have available, i.e. he'll get leather and then ask for more even when more is clearly there, he'll ask for bones/wood when there's a stockpile right next to him, etc. I've tried just about everything including manually dumping the needed supplies on the Craftdwarf's workshop. Nothing seems to work and since it's happened to me many times, I'm thinking bug.--[[Special:Contributions/69.149.72.106|69.149.72.106]] 05:45, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

:Dwarves in moods will continue to ask for the same list they started out asking for, regardless of which items they've already collected. They also collect them in order. So if he asks for:

*leather
*body parts
*plant cloth
*rough gems
*leather

:and he already has leather, bones, and plant cloth, he'll keep repeating the same list until rough gems are available, then go get them, then get more leather, then begin a mysterious construction.--[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 12:19, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

::I may be seeing the same issue as above. I have a dwarf in a possessed mood locked in a workshop looking for:
::*rough...colour
::*stone...rock (has bauxite)
::*gems...shining (has indigo tourmalines)
::*tree...life (has palm logs)
::*bones...yes (has mule bones. I liked that mule)

::I'm unsure of the order they originally came up in, but of course I have uncut gems lying all over the place (including a store pile of cut and uncut gems about ten tiles away.)

::I'm also very new to DF, so I could be missing something. I'm going to save a copy of it as it is currently. [[User:Eddy the lip|Eddy the lip]] 19:25, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

:::He may want rough glass, instead of normal gems. Dwarves can be picky. --[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 19:27, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
::::If he wanted raw glass, he should've been mumbling "raw... [green/clear/crystal]". It was only in the old 2D version where "rough gems" (and its secretive/possessed equivalents) could occasionally mean "raw glass". --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 19:54, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

::::Yeah, rough glass didn't do it. I suppose there's the possibility that he requires a specific kind of rough gem. He has a preference for moss opals (I only have jelly opals.) If I can find some, and that works, I'll post back. Otherwise, I'll have to get work on the catacombs! [[User:Eddy the lip|Eddy the lip]] 20:18, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

::::Burrows also affect moody dwarves. If you have only a rock stockpile designated for the poor guy, he's trying to find bones and gems from within that burrow (stockpile).

== Magma Workshops ==
So, I just a had a Glassmaker be possessed and be unwilling (unable?) to claim a Magma glass furnace. When I built a regular furnace, he claimed it just fine and went on about his business. Not sure if this applies to all other magma disciplines, but if you're having this problem, try building a regular one (then deconstruct it afterwards, I guess). [[User:Rodya mirov|Rodya mirov]]
: A magma forge worked for me. Just make sure it doesn't get unpowered after it has been claimed because the dwarf immediately ran amok when this happened. [[Special:Contributions/84.46.87.224|84.46.87.224]] 11:45, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

I just had the same problem with a Magma forge; I used the same anvil to build a Metalsmith's forge below the old site and the dwarf happily claimed the MS F.[[Special:Contributions/76.29.33.118|76.29.33.118]] 18:35, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

I had the same problem with magma glass furnaces. Only normal glass furnaces will work.--[[Special:Contributions/24.8.192.250|24.8.192.250]] 21:36, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

== Obsidian Farming SCIENCE ==
Someone needs to figure out definitely whether obsidian farming allows more moods.

== 'Nother Possible Bug ==
Today I was tending the fortress when my bookkeeper went into a secretive mood while on break in the dining hall. He did not claim a workshop, he did not sketch anything. He just sat there, slowly losing his mind until he finally went insane. I'm not sure what I did wrong. Right now the game is paused with the still-insane dwarf just sitting amongst all the others. I'm afraid to unpause it because I really don't want to see what's going to happen to the little bastard. [[User:PurelyAtomic|PurelyAtomic]]

::Maybe you didn't have the workshop he needed? The symptoms seem to match. --[[User:Speed112|Speed112]] 01:01, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

:Later that year a different dwarf, a Stonecrafter, was possessed. He holed himself up in his workshop and made a Claystone scepter called the Stin Shadmal. It's worth a ridiculous amount. [[User:PurelyAtomic|PurelyAtomic]] 00:57, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== Yet another possible bug ==

My leatherworker was possessed, claimed a leather works, then wanted leather and cut gems. I tan a hide, cut about 7 or 8 gems, then about 20 minutes later, I see "Degel Zefonusan has begun a mysterious construction!". I go over, look at the items in the workshop, and find out he took 3 units of donkey leather. I think there should be some way of finding out how many of a certain thing he needs. This caused a lot of confusion for me.--[[User:Joejr50|Joejr50]] 20:18, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
: You can estimate the number of items by duration of each scream/sketch/muttering. If some particular material request shows longer than other, it means crafter needs several items of that type. But I never got requests of more than 3 items of one type. --[[User:Peregarrett|Peregarrett]] 12:12, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

== And another bug... ==

I've now had two dwarfs produce bone items from strange moods. In both cases, bone was requested (dwarfs had no skill) as well as various other goods - gems, cloth, leather, and rock - but the final artifact was a bone artifact with zero decoration. One dwarf was possessed, the other was a mysterious mood.

Anyone experience similar?--[[User:Nimblewright|Nimblewright]] 17:42, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:Yes - in fact, it was reported 3 weeks ago on the bug tracker: {{bug|2806}} --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 18:32, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

== Fell mood murder ==

I think it requires some clarification. Does the moody dwarf attack their victim, drag them to workshop and insta-kill them or insta-kill them on the place and then drag the corpse? --[[User:Someone-else|Someone-else]] 20:22, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:In 40d, the moody dwarf would insta-kill his victim wherever he/she was standing (without the victim even being able to defend itself, much like slaughtering), then drag the corpse to the workshop. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 20:45, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:I also had a fell mood murder in DF2010. It seems like it uses the same game mechanics as slaughtering (instant-kill without combat mechanics). --18:46, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

::I just had a Fell mood in 31.12. The Dwarf who undertook the mood first claimed a Tanner's shop then stalked the (corpse-strewn, gradually flooding) halls of my fortress for quite a while. Eventually, he grabbed an alread-dead Dwarf's corpse and hauled it back to the Tannery. And now... I have a lovely Dwarf Bone Cage which sadly will be lost soon when my fortress finishes self-destructing in an orgy of tantrums and doomsday-level flooding. [[Special:Contributions/71.232.137.20|71.232.137.20]] 04:59, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

:::Interesting, very interesting. I thought fell moods always involved a murder. Is there any chance that the dead dwarf was alive when the mood started? —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 12:16, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

::::I can not rule it out; at the time, Dwarves were dropping from starvation (as the food stockpile was cut off from the upper levels by flooded intermediate levels), so the "material" might have expired after the mood started. Its noteworthy that the Dwarf with the mood spent a lot of time first sitting on the workshop (as if he was missing a material), then wandering seemingly randomly through the fort. [[Special:Contributions/71.232.137.20|71.232.137.20]] 17:26, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

:In 31.11 my Fell mood dwarf claimed a magma forge, he proceeded to mull around the area and at a whim proceeded to murder my dwarf operating a magma furnace. He dragged the corpse to my magma forge and produced a dwarf bone short sword. So as far as I can tell, he kills them on site, not at the place they intend to process the dwarf. --[[User:Knossos|Knossos]] 08:10, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

== Skills affected by artifact creation ==

My miner got a fey mood, claimed mason workshop and created hematite table, decorated with giant toad bone and tube agate. Before getting mood he had miner, carpenter and bowyer labor skills, and now he is a legendary MINER! Making stone furniture now counts as digging experience?! --[[User:Peregarrett|Peregarrett]] 12:46, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:Oops. my fault. I always thought miner is not-moodable skill, but it was moodable even at 40d --[[User:Peregarrett|Peregarrett]] 13:48, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

== Possessed Mood Causes ==

Do we know for sure what causes Possessed moods? A few seconds after crushing twenty or so dwarves and various livestock beneath a drawbridge (great fun, lemme tell ya) a dwarf woke from his sleep due to a Possessed mood, and made an Aventurine scepter. Also, ''"On the item is an image of Zefon Stopchamber the dwarf in aventurine. Zefon Stopchamber is cringing. The artwork relates to the crushing of the dwarf Zefon Stopchamber under a drawbridge in Helmsball in the midautumn of 202."'' So, maybe Possessed moods are caused by recent deaths, or deceased friends? Just guessing here, maybe it was just coincidence, but interesting all the same. [[Special:Contributions/174.31.104.180|174.31.104.180]] 00:02, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
:Coincidence - as far as anybody knows, they're entirely random. The only moods that result from recent deaths or deceased friends are Fell/Macabre moods, and only because they happen when an unhappy dwarf enters a strange mood. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 00:18, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
:You might be on to something: I recall Toady mentioning ghosts a while ago. My newest fort also succumbed to thirst (2 miners survived) and I got 2 possessions for next two moods after migration (but due to rock bars problem it kinda didn't work out for them as I had sold my anvil for). [[Special:Contributions/90.191.16.52|90.191.16.52]] 10:39, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:: I'm aware of the next comment (about disassembly) and do believe it - yet I got another possession in the same damn castle; 3 out of 4. Is it possible that code is compiled yet never used? Still, chance works like this too. [[Special:Contributions/90.191.16.52|90.191.16.52]] 11:43, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Nope. A short glance at DF .08 with a [http://www.hex-rays.com/idapro/ disassembler that tracks code flow] shows only one path that reaches the message " has been possessed!" and it comes directly from the 0..2 random number test mentioned below. It's random, you've had slightly bad luck, but your experience is well within statistically expected results. You've essentially rolled a die four times, and gotten a 1 or 2 on three of the rolls. You might want to read about the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy Gambler's fallacy] a.k.a. the so-called [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_averages law of averages] and the fallacy of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization hasty generalization]. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 03:41, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:It's all a coincidence. I just disassembled the bit of the 0.31.08 strange mood that chooses mood type. It hasn't changed since the .40d days, except for excessive optimization by the compiler.
:*First, a random number between 0 and 49 is generated.
:*If that number is ''higher'' than the dwarf's current happiness scalar,
:**then a random number between 0 and 1 is generated.
:**0 results in a fell mood.
:**1 results in a macabre mood.
:*Otherwise,
:**a random number between 0 and 2 is generated.
:**0 results in a fey mood.
:**1 results in a secretive mood.
:**2 results in a possessed mood.
:Purely random. Disassembly available on request. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 04:19, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
::i have read and understood the above, but i'm not exactly sure that the '0/1/2' number is generated COMPLETELY at random. i think one of the factors at work is the dwarf's skills once they're selected for a 'strange mood' - if he has a 'moodable' skill, even 'dabbling'(prob.) or 'novice', then the dwarf will go to the corresponding workshop and increase that skill (quite possibly to legendary) with the +20,000 skillpoints on completion of the artifact. however, if the dwarf has no 'moodable' skill (i.e. only military skills, social skills or administrative skills), then they become 'possessed'. i'm basing this on the fact that i have had only ONE non-possessed mood, out of about 12; a clothier (who's now legendary). the rest have all, incredibly disappointingly, been 'possessed' (and yeah, i'm aware of the law of averages/etc). the reason my dwarves dont have any other skills is because they were all specialised from embark or migration, or military/haulers. thus, i only have 18 dwarves actively training a 'moodable' profession, out of 150+. the rest have probably lost their 'moodable' skills over the years from the 'rusting' effect, or simply not been selected. thoughts?--[[User:DJ Devil|DJ Devil]] 16:36, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
:::It's all a coincidence. Purely random. Disassembly available on request. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 14:57, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
:I just had my first Possessed Dwarf and it was a bonecrafter with no workshop. Didn't take much to work out what I needed to build but could the lack of a workshop related to their profession be a factor in the equation? I know as a fact that death isn't needed for one to happen as it's the 1st mood of a new fort and not even a tame stray has died yet. --[[Special:Contributions/124.180.132.157|124.180.132.157]] 06:07, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
::i do not think having a workshop (or not) affects which type of mood is selected. i think it's more like... 'happiness > skills > random number'. in effect; if your dwarf is happy, it will not be a 'fell' or 'macabre' mood. if your dwarf does NOT have a 'moodable' skill, then he'll be 'possessed'. if he DOES have a 'moodable' skill, it's a random number out of 3 for 'fey', 'secretive' or 'possessed'. and i would also like to confirm that 'dabbling' is enough to be counted as good enough for a mood - i had a dabbling mechanic (with no other 'moodable' skills) claim a mechanic's workshop, and surprisingly make a mechanism... and he wasnt 'possessed' like the others, he was 'fey'.--[[User:DJ Devil|DJ Devil]]
:::The availability of moodable skills has '''no effect at all''' on the type of mood - a completely unskilled Peasant is perfectly capable of going Fey or Secretive. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 21:38, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
::::I don't want to create an argument, just to clear it up. You ''claim'' that a Peasant can go Fey or Secretive, but is there evidence of it? If even a single dwarf were to enter a Fey or Secretive mood, who ''did not have any moodable skills prior'' (even at dabbling), this would disprove DJ Devil's hypothesis. Present a case where this has happened, and he should be satisfied. I would also like to see this evidence, as the only Possessed dwarves I've had were those without moodable skills - and those with had all (if I remember correctly) Fey or Secretive. --[[User:Drake1500|Drake1500]] 00:48, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
:::::Humans are really good as spotting patterns. We're so good at it that sometimes we see patterns where none actually exist. Mix in something as important to the game and as rare as strange moods, well, it's understandable that a player would want to know how to control them. But the reality is, moods are purely random. There are only two inputs into mood type selection, exactly as I said a year ago in this very section. The only control you have to prevent a possessed mood is to keep your dwarfs unhappy enough that all moods are fell or macabre. Here's the proof. This is part of the disassembly of the current version{{version|0.31.25}}'s mood selection code. I have shown all of the calculations for "good" moods, but skipped the choice between the two "bad" moods. Also, I have shown only one of the five pieces of code that set the mood type. They all work the same.
<pre>
; This is the test that determines whether the dwarf will get a fell or
; macabre mood, or one of the happier moods.

; This HORRIBLE piece of code derives a random number in the inclusive
; range [0..49] decimal. It is so awful because it was compiled using
; full optimization (on a piece of code that runs once per hour at best.
; The whole binary is like this.)

; I am not going to work through all the math here, but I did run a
; test on this snippet. For all possible inputs, the output is in
; [0..49]. I assume it is normally distributed in the statistical sense.

call MT_RAND ; MT_RAND is the well-known Mersenne
; Twister random number generator.
mov ecx, eax
mov eax, 3
mul ecx
mov eax, ecx
sub eax, edx
shr eax, 1
add eax, edx
shr eax, 1Eh
imul eax, 80000001h
add ecx, eax
mov eax, 0C7FFFFFDh
mul ecx
mov ecx, a_creature_vector.Start ; This is one of the creature vectors.
; It is not the one that Dwarf Therapist uses,
; so it's probably not "main_creature_vector".
; This vector might contain only dwarfs.
mov eax, [ecx+edi*4] ; EDI is an index into that vector, so this
; selects the dwarf that is going to get a mood.
shr edx, 19h ; EDX now contains a random number in [0..49].

; !!!!!! THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PART !!!!!!
cmp edx, [eax+710h] ; 710 is the offset of the happiness scalar of
; the dwarf. (Verified with Dwarf Therapist.)

jge @@do_unhappy_mood ; We compared the random number with the dwarf's
; happiness. This chooses between good and bad
; moods.

; If we get here, we're doing a good mood.
; Now we generate a second random number, this time in [0..2].
; Again, I have verified that for all possible inputs, the output is in [0..2].

call MT_RAND

mov ecx, eax
mov eax, 3
mul ecx
mov eax, ecx
sub eax, edx
shr eax, 1
add eax, edx
shr eax, 1Eh
imul eax, 80000001h
add ecx, eax
mov eax, 0BFFFFFFFh
mul ecx
shr edx, 1Dh ; EDX now contains a random number in [0..2].

; !!!!!! THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PART !!!!!!
; We have generated a random number that is 0, 1, or 2. Now we figure out
; which of those possibilities it actually was, and branch accordingly.
sub edx, ZERO ; The ZERO is actually the EBX register, which
; was zeroed at the beginning of the routine
; and remains zero throughout.
jz @@fey_mood

dec edx
jz short @@secretive_mood

dec edx
jnz @@end_of_mood_setup ; This jump would skip the case statement if
; the tested value was not in [0..2].
; Above, we have seen that that can't happen.
@@possessed_mood:
mov ecx, a_creature_vector.Start
mov edx, [ecx+edi*4]
mov eax, 2 ; 2 is possessed mood.
mov [edx+210h], ax ; 210 is the offset for mood type.
mov ecx, a_creature_vector.Start
mov ecx, [ecx+edi*4]
push ZERO
lea edx, [esp+1F0h+a_message_string]
call prep_string_var

push 14h
mov eax, offset HasBeenPossessed ; " has been possessed!"
lea ecx, [esp+1F0h+a_message_string]
call fixedlength_ascii_to_string

mov edx, 5
mov word ptr [esp+1ECh+var_1BC+2], dx
mov byte ptr [esp+1ECh+var_1B8], 1
jmp @@end_of_mood_setup
</pre>
:::::The takeaway here is that the branches in the code that choose moods (that's the instructions that start with 'j') depend solely on random numbers. There is nothing to tweak that will change this random outcome. Training doesn't affect it. Skill rust doesn't affect it. Availability of a workshop doesn't affect it. Whether the dwarf is wearing lucky socks doesn't affect it. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 20:20, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

== Shells ==

Mussel shells count as shells along with turtle shells and cave lobster shells. Should change the page to include them .
: Cave lobsters don't produce shells anymore. Only turtle, oyster and mussel do - see [[DF2010:Shell|shell]] page.[[User:Peregarrett|Peregarrett]] 06:50, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

== Materials in hospitals ==

What I have found is that materials a dwarf need that that only exist in containers in hospitals will not be claimed until the container is removed and the material is liberated. Need a second check on this then it might be worth putting on this page. 05:34, 17 June 2010 Bungler
:That kind of makes sense, similar to how trader's goods can't be used. Did you try setting the level of material required by the hospital to 0? Incidentally, four tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> signs your talk page posts. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 10:21, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

== Metal working dwarves and magma workshops... ==

I doubt that this is a bug, but i think it needs further confirmation, i had a possessed metalsmith, who claimed a magma forge the moment the channel under it filled to workable status, but due to the fact that it wasn't completely full and lava was moving, the workshop momentarily lost "power". The dwarf immediately canceled the mood and went berserk. Now, i doubt that ''every'' moody metalsmith would do that, but more just do the general insanity thing and go any of the possible moods. Can anyone confirm this with their dorfs? v31.08 here, just for reference - [[User:Vrga|Vrga]] 06:51, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
*It's always been this way, even in 40d. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 14:46, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
**didn't know that, as its not stated ''anywhere'' at all... - [[User:Vrga|Vrga]] 11:38, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== Possessed Mood and Experience ==

So far under v31 I've had a handful of dorfs get possessed and build themselves an artifact. The wiki still says that Possessed dwarfs don't gain xp, but mine have all ended up Legendary in whatever skill they used at completion.
:Coincidence. Remember that the moodable skill with the highest experience level is the one chosen; it just happened that your possessed dwarves were already legendary. I just checked my disassembly of 0.31.06. All successful moods ''except possession'' gain 20,000 experience points; possessions go not gain anything. This is the same as its always been. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 02:37, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Mining exp? ==

A couple times my dwarves made artifacts (not possessed) at a mason's workshop, to become legendary miners. They do not appear to have gained skill in masonry or anything else like that. --[[User:Peglegpenguin|Peglegpenguin]] 20:11, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes mining is a moodable skill.It does not have a workshop so you must think of it like they made it with their picks. If I'm correct they will take either a masonry or crafsworkshop and make their artifact there.

== Population of 20+==

According to Tarn in Dwarf Talk 7, in order for a fey mood to occur you must have a population of 20 or more for the mood to occur. So I really think we should have this in the article. [[User:Sadron|Sadron]] 19:00, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
:That was specifically removed from the article because two people, Anonymous-78.23.137.83 and [[User:mhyder|mhyder]], have reported moods with less than 20 dwarves. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 22:27, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
::I see, however were they able to provide evidence for it? [[User:Sadron|Sadron]] 01:51, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:::The claims are on this page, about halfway down. No evidence was presented, nor requested. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 18:29, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
I have had one with 11 dwarfs.
(I had had twenty, nine were slaughtered by goblins, (And zombies) and before more came, one went into a fey mood.)

::::Could it be that you need to BREAK a pop of 20 for one to be able to trigger? Perhaps even as specific as when the mood is brewing (before your notified) you have to have more then 20 but that stop it in the case of say a goblin slaughter...
::::--[[Special:Contributions/124.180.132.157|124.180.132.157]] 06:11, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

:::::No, that is not the case. I've just played two quick forts, and my first mood happened very quickly after the first of the two scripted immigration waves both games. I started with 14 dwarves both games.
::::: The first game was 14 + 7 = 21 Dwarves before the mood happened, 2 days after the immigrants arrived.
::::: The second game was 14 + 3 = 17 Dwarves before the mood happened, 8 days after the immigrants arrived.

:::::Could be coincidence, but I'm guessing the new trigger is either between 15 and 17 dwarves, or not related to the number of dwarves. --[[User:Naros|Naros]] 07:23, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

== Other requests ==

Right now i'm having a dorf (metal crafter) who is in a fey mood and asks for "adamantine wafers", exactly. Of course, he got it, just stopped on "body parts", which i have 200 at hand, no burrows. He's just a little bitch.
Oh, sorry, DF 31.10, [[Special:Contributions/78.140.48.35|78.140.48.35]] 08:12, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:It happens fairly often (and even back in 40d) that a moody metalsmith will insist on a very specific metal. In most cases, that metal would be the dwarf's favorite metal, but I always observed that once I had struck raw adamantine, all moody metalsmiths would insist on using adamantine wafers. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 12:53, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

== Strange problem with moods ==

I was wondering if anyone else had this problem. I've already had 2 dwarves go insane because they couldn't get materials for an artifact. Everything they ask for is in my fort, and there are no burrow restrictions or anything forbidden. It seems to only happen when they take over a clothier's workshop (which has no restrictions on it, BTW) and ask for cloth - even though there is a huge stockpile of cloth right next to the workshop. I have a third dwarf currently doing the same thing and I actually want to save his life for once. [[Special:Contributions/98.228.196.111|98.228.196.111]] 21:39, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
: Do you have both silk and plant cloth? Both are requested as "stacked cloth" but aren't equivalent for secretive moody dwarf. Same for posessed one.[[User:Peregarrett|Peregarrett]] 06:55, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
: Also, it's possible that he wants a piece of cloth which is stored in a hospital. He can't take it out of there and so he'll go insane waiting to get it. My solution was to de-zone the hospital and unbuild all the chests inside it, allowing him to grab the cloth that he wants.--[[Special:Contributions/208.81.12.34|208.81.12.34]] 12:57, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Woodcrafter mood? ==

I had a woodcrafter get a secretive mood. He claimed a mechanics shop. Clearly he should have claimed a craftsdwarf shop. I checked his stats and sure enough, both woodcrafting and mechanics were proficient, among other mood skills. I don't use any other DF tools, so I couldn't see the exact experience levels. My hypothesis is one of two things. First, perhaps the skill had rusted, but that the change doesn't get reflected in their professions? Second, perhaps both were exactly the same skill level. Moods pick a random one, or pick one different from the one the title uses? Anyone seen something like this?--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 12:10, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
:Were both skills equal? Perhaps he migrated in as a proficient woodcrafter and mechanic? It may be that it only regards the level of their proficiency rather than their EXP value for it. --[[User:Eurytus|Eurytus]] 20:21, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::In the previous major release, the skill with the most experience points was used; the level was not considered. I don't see any reason for that to have changed. I would suspect rust. Savegame? —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 21:24, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Old, but for posterity - dwarf profession only changes when the old profession is *outleveled* by the new profession. So its perfectly possible your Woodcrafter had more xp in Mechanics, just not enough to put him a level of mechanics over his woodcrafter level and thus change his profession to Mechanic. --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 05:26, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

== Magma Forge vs. Normal Forge ==

I had a Dwarf who got the Fey mood and didnt want to claim a Workshop. I built any possible Workshop, except a Forge, since I had a Magma Forge. The Dwarf didnt accept the Magma Forge but when i disassemled it and built a Normal Metlsmiths Forge he claimed it immediately. So it seems for moody dwarfs thats not the same. -- Blue Crake 30.10.10
:Yes, this sometimes happens. Reported above, item #9. Also reported several times on the 40d Talk Strange Mood page. I'm glad you figured out the workaround. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 22:40, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
I wrote that to tell, that this is the case for the forge too, not only the glassmaker. I can`t find anything about this in the mainpage of DF2010 Moods. Shouldn`t it be here as well, as long as this bug (is it a bug or rather a caveat?) exists? Needing a normal forge is kinda counterintuitive, as moody dwarfs dont use fuel anyway. Also do moody dwarfs always take nonmagma-buildings or just sometimes? --[[User:Blue Crake|Blue Crake]] 10:42, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

This seems like a bug to me, why does normal vs. magma matter? It really shouldn't. Just want to make sure this is noted as bug. – [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Pathaugen|Pathaugen]]
: It's not a bug, it's a feature. Maybe the dwarf doesn't like worrying about having his shiny artifact, or the components thereof, falling into a pool of magma through a careless elbow. Maybe the dwarf prefers working in a cooler environment. Or maybe the decision software merely selects the first type of workshop that can handle the strange mood, and it would be annoying to the developer to make it select magma workshops if you have only them, and non-magma workshops if you have only those. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 21:38, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

:: Being alpha, it's important to note intended vs. 'for now' interworkings so there is a nice wish list of how the game can improve in the future. Sure that's how it may work because of the programming, but with that mindset, the game is done and nothing else needs to change? I just think it's healthy having discussion instead of just putting all ideas off as nonsense because that's the way it is and always should be. [[User:Pathaugen|Pathaugen]] 05:22, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

:::I thoroughly agree with DeMatt here. This wiki is about how the game ''does'' operate, not how it ''should'' operate. There's no point in putting future-development wish-lists here - those belong on the bay12games forums. [[Special:Contributions/202.156.10.234|202.156.10.234]] 02:30, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

::::Not his point, it should be listed as a known bug if it is such. As you said it is the ''alpha'' so we can expect changes, especially the removal of bugs. That way as a wiki we can keep readers informed of likely version changes. :P
::::--[[Special:Contributions/124.180.132.157|124.180.132.157]] 06:15, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

== Highest experience skill not chosen ==

I just had a dwarf have a fey mood who had 3180 xp in metalcrafting and 3000 in all the other metalworking skills. I was expecting to get a legendary blacksmith out of the deal, which I really could have used, but instead she ended up making a crossbow and being a legendary weapon smith (which I already had...) So apparently they don't always take the highest xp, perhaps its actually just picked at random amongst the highest talent level, since by level all 4 moodable skills were equal.
[[User:Barbarossa6969|Barbarossa6969]] 15:26, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== multiple items not always displayed longer ==

Regarding the "2 seconds per item needed" rule, I've found that it doesn't always apply. I've seen certain materials displayed for the same 2 seconds as everything else, but sometimes (not always) multiples of the material are collected. I've seen it happen with (at least) wood, bone, and cloth, and usually (always?) in threes. I think it also tends to be the ''primary'' material (1st thing gathered, and the thing the artifact is eventually listed as being made from), but I'm not as sure about that. It's an important point, and might be the cause of many of the complaints of "he said he needed X, and I had plenty of X around!" (i.e. he actually needed more X-1) [[Special:Contributions/202.156.10.234|202.156.10.234]] 01:54, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

:Just had this happen again, this time with rough gems as the primary material. "rough gems" displayed the normal two seconds, two rough gems gathered, (not three). The same artifact also required 2 logs (as secondary materials, not primary) and "wood logs" was displayed the expected 4 seconds, which seems to confirm it's the primary material that does it. I'll add it to the page with a verify tag.

== Random mood crafting. ==

One of my dwarves got a possessed mood during a stage where I'm still setting up my various workshops. The only moodable skill he had was Tanning, so I built a leatherworks and tanner's shop, but he still just hung around the meeting area. I decided to ignore him and set up a craftsdwarf workshop for another reason, and suddenly this dwarf goes and claims it. Is it possible that moods, possibly just possessed moods, can choose skills that the dwarf does not have in the slightest? will update when the item is finished --[[User:Twilightdusk|Twilightdusk]] 02:58, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

:I'm thinking he's using the craftdwarf's workshop because of its "Make leather crafts" option. --[[User:Peglegpenguin|Peglegpenguin]] 03:36, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

:I have a possessed bonecrafter and I made the 'incredible' guess of what workshop (a craftdwarf's workshop) i needed to build to get the lazy sod out of bed. I'm confident it's atleast highly probable they will pick a skill they have, probability increasing with exp in that (or those) skills.
:--[[Special:Contributions/124.180.132.157|124.180.132.157]] 06:18, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

== Rock Blocks in Strange Mood ==
One of my clothesmaker dwarves decided to get a strange mood, so I afforded him all his needed materials, except for one thing: rock blocks. He most certainly asked for them, and I decided to make metal blocks, just to see if he would take them. I made an electrum block and he took it right away and began to work. I suggest stone blocks be changed to stone/metal blocks in the demands section.
--[[Special:Contributions/173.48.59.215|173.48.59.215]] 23:45, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

== Farmer + Strange Mood = Legendary Weaponsmith ==
Not complaining, but I just had a High Master Grower / Adequate Herbalist "withdraw from society...", I examined her skills to see what was coming, and not seeing any moodable skills, fully expected her to claim a craftdwarf's workshop, but was pleasantly surprised to find she had claimed a metalsmith's forge and created a golden crossbow, elevating her to legendary weaponsmith! There was nothing in her personality to explain this odd occurrence (she does however, like chestnuts for their chestnuts). This is of course contrary to what the [[Strange Mood]] page states. Perhaps the rules have changed. --[[User:Uninvited Guest|Uninvited Guest]] 21:07, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
:Perhaps she arrived with some Weaponsmith skill that completely rusted away while you had her do farming instead? --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 00:46, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
::I thought about that as well, but I didn't realize that skills actually disappeared. The [[Skills]] page does not state that but looking closer in the talk page, it appears to be true. All things considered, your theory is quite likely. Thanks. --[[User:Uninvited Guest|Uninvited Guest]] 01:28, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

== Starvation/Dehydration ==
Can a dwarf die from either while in a mood?

:No, AFAIK it's like when they Trance in combat. All need for food / water / sleep vanishes for the duration. Could be wrong. May require !!science!!.

== Dwarf not using available materials? ==

Do the materials that a dwarf in a mood wants have to be on the same z-level/in a stockpile/nearby? I had one in a fey mood who appeared to be asking for jet (at least, that's what it said when I viewed the workshop he was using with the q key), and I had ridiculous amounts of jet two levels down, but he never moved to get it and eventually just went insane. (I tried to get the other dwarves to move some up to where he was, but they didn't do anything. ><)--[[Special:Contributions/118.208.147.173|118.208.147.173]] 09:39, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:Dwarves don't demand specific types of stones - if he didn't gather the material, you probably didn't have it at all. What '''exactly''' was the dwarf asking for (and what had the dwarf gathered so far)? --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 13:48, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
::He asked for two things: rock and body parts. He'd already got the body parts. I had plenty of other kinds of stone as well, so maybe I missed a line or something? --[[Special:Contributions/118.208.147.173|118.208.147.173]] 10:34, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

== "The type of artifact created will depend on the dwarf's highest skill." - what with soaper? ==

Yes, talented soaper. [[Special:Contributions/213.134.175.225|213.134.175.225]] 22:04, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

== Fun fact ==
Clothier dorf can pick a clothier's workshop, go pick up adamantine cloth (not normally workable at a clothier's), attempt to make a rope out of it (because you can do that at a clothier's), and wind up making an adamantine chain. —[[User:Chaos|Chaos]] 21:20, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
:Indeed - I've had that happen at least once back in 40d. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 22:01, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

==Yet Another Bone Carving Bug==
I had a possessed bone carver claim a Craftdwarf's workshop, immediately run off and grab a bone, start a mysterious construction, sit in the workshop for months, then go insane. I honestly have no idea what to think about that. —[[User:Exploratory Mushroom|Exploratory Mushroom]] 22:44, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

:Just speculation, but was the workshop cluttered? Some animals leave huge stacks of bone (e.g Jabberer can be >200), and certain animal skulls (e.g. Jabberer, again) can make a workshop **CLT** all by itself. With the length of time some artifacts take to construct, I can imagine a maximally cluttered workshop might stretch the creation time out for months [[Special:Contributions/202.156.10.234|202.156.10.234]] 22:48, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

== Clothier won't take materials ==

I have a possessed clothier who needs cloth and silk. I have both, but she just sits at the workshop and will go insane unless I figure out why she won't take the materials. They are both giant cave spider materials right next to each other up the staircase right by the workshop. I also have rope reed thread somewhere that I bought from an elven caravan, but she won't take that either. What's going on?
:There are two versions of "cloth... thread" that "possessed" Dwarves could be asking for. What they are saying is a little misleading; rather than them wanting actual thread, they are only asking for cloth. It is likely that the affected Dwarf wants ''plant fiber cloth'', '''not''' silk cloth or plant fiber thread. If you have some plant fiber cloth thread, as you said, make it into cloth and it should work. For future reference, this is a talk page about the Strange mood article, not a discussion forum. Please ask questions like this on the [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?board=7.0 Official Dwarf Fortress Forums], [http://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/ /r/dwarffortress at reddit.com],or the other Dwarf Fortress community of your choice. --[[User:Gzalzi|Gzalzi]] 14:45, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
::Oh, thanks. I asked this here because every other topic seems to be discussion, but okay... [[User:OrangePikmin|OrangePikmin]] 19:47, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Yeah, they are all discussions, but they're not supposed to be. --[[User:Gzalzi|Gzalzi]] 21:13, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

== Fell Moods with different workshops? ==
Just played a round of DF and my little fortress got besieged, several dwarfes died. One dwarf then got a Fell mood and went to CARPENTER Workshop. He claimed it and went off to kill the nearest dwarf. Is it possible that the fell moods only prefer butcher- and tanner workshops, but they will work with other workshops as well? Seemed a little bit odd to me that he used a carpentry workshop...

==Do Dwarves Steal==
I had a dwarf refusing to do anything but demand rock. Which is weird in itself, as rocks are plentiful underground. Then, just as I gave her up for lost, I saw her grab a hunk of galena from the trade depot. It was in ( ), and I certainly didn't trade for it, as I have galena in the fortress. Did she grab it off a merchant? [[Special:Contributions/68.197.174.59|68.197.174.59]] 19:16, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
:I think starving dwarves will steal food from traders. So I'm not too surprised that a moody dwarf would take something that is technically fortress property. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 23:49, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
::I've observed Dwarves stealing from caravans for moods on more than one occasion. It doesn't appear to happen with every mood where they're missing something, so it might have to do with the type of mood or the personality of the moody dwarf. --[[User:SethCreiyd|SethCreiyd]] 17:31, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

==cloth... thread...==
i think i can confirm this also means 'cloth(yarn)' for possessed dwarves, based on having both silk and plant fibre cloth AND thread available, in stockpiles nearby, but my possessed dwarf not going for either. there were also a number of other items on his list, but he'd found them all, and had them 'TSK'ed in the workshop. unfortunately, i'd left him to it too long (thinking he had all the items at his disposal, and would get going with it unsupervised) before i'd recognised he wasnt interested in the cloth available, and wanted some of the new yarn. he'd gone insane before i could sheer any animals, and weave it into cloth.--[[User:DJ Devil|DJ Devil]] 16:50, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

==Infinite logs loop?==
This might possibly be because my dwarf likes mahogany logs and only has one of them, but it seems that all of the TSK'd items (more than 30 already) are logs and there are still things that my dwarf needs. Like metal bars, thread, etc. I had to set burrows to get my dwarf out of the workshop to get more items as well. 07:57, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
:See [[Planepacked]]. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 14:58, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

==New skills not moodable==
I haven't checked the entirety of the FOTF forum thread, but has anything been said about the new craftsdwarf skills like Potter and Waxworker becoming moodable. I like having a full complement of legendary craftsdwarves... because I'm anal retentive like that. [[Special:Contributions/199.67.140.44|199.67.140.44]] 00:46, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
:I've checked against a disassembly, and I can't find evidence that any of the new skills are moodable - there's a big table that maps moodable skills to the actual Strange Mood job selected (i.e. which workshop they claim and what kind of item they produce), and that table only goes up to the "Mechanic" skill. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 03:01, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

v0.31 Talk:Strange mood

2011-05-14T14:57:04Z

0x517A5D: /* Possessed Mood Causes */

== Fell/Macabre Moods ==
I never had any of the moods that required dwarves to be depressed in 40d but I have a high master milker in a fey mood asking for body parts. will commit Dorfcide for science[[User:Cpad|Cpad]]
:'''''SCIENCE!!!'''''--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 01:19, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
man dwarves are hard to shred.killed a bunch of dwarves but the only parts that came off were teeth(Note use more violence next time) and the milker just sat in the craft shop then went berserk. Interestingly a dwarves "z" screen loses all the personality info when they go insane[[User:Cpad|Cpad]]

For what it's worth, I've seen a couple moods, saved to attempt different methods of reacting to them, and have noticed that Fey and Secretive work exactly as they did in 40d, apart from dwarves now requesting more different kinds of things. Perhaps we can update the 2010 page with some of the stuff from the 40d page at this point? --[[User:AzureShadow|AzureShadow]] 02:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

according to the bone article bones are now counted as body parts so I'm assuming that's what he was after [[User:Cpad|Cpad]] 13:15, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

A fey dwarf of mine just grabbed a shell that was laying about. So apparently those count too. (NINJAEDIT: Yes, he was screaming for body parts and not specifically shell)[[Special:Contributions/81.225.92.197|81.225.92.197]] 13:44, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, bone and shell as category are gone, they are now 'body parts'. Asking for them is common in a fey mood and you won't have to kill a dwarf for that. In fact, it wont even help you satisfy his needs. --[[User:Confused|Confused]]

I think most of my dwarves were unhappy about one of my starting dwarves dying, but I didn't check at the time. I've now got someone in a mood who has collected 3 large roach remains, and 1 firefly remains. She's brooding darkly, and the message is "Leave me. I need things... certain things"--[[Special:Contributions/78.151.176.4|78.151.176.4]] 15:59, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

It might be worth stating that the personal preferences of the moody dwarf seem to influence the material requirements. I had an armorsmith who had a preference for silver and wouldn't accept any of my ready metal bars. Once I smelted enough silver items she promptly got to work. Currently the page only states that the preferences affect the created item, but since the material requirements are what mostly confuse people it might be worth to spell this out explicitly. --[[User:Roblob|Roblob]] 09:08, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

From what I've seen 'till now, they only pick from stuff that's already available, but don't care if there's ''enough'' available. So if you have, say, 1 bar of silver and 10 of copper, and the dwarf needs 2 bars of silver, he'll still stand there demanding bars. --[[Special:Contributions/190.160.169.53|190.160.169.53]] 02:38, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

== Never Claiming a Workshop? ==
I have a dwarf hanging out in my dining hall in a secretive mood. He has not claimed ANY workshops, nor moved in nearly a month. He's about to go crazy, but I can't seem to even get him to a shop. Note, all workshops have been created (including fully powered magma forges/glass and non-magma equivalents) and every possible workshop is open and fully accessible. I'm not sure what to do :( His highest skill is in plant processing (13). Any suggestions for if this happens again? 00:59, 29 July 2010 69.134.0.97
:Please list all of his skills and the skill levels in them. Plant processing was not a "moodable" skill, one that can be selected as the skill that defines a strange mood, in old 40d, and I doubt that's changed. Check (t, then cursor over workshops) if any building component (marked with a <nowiki>[B]</nowiki> of any workshop is {forbidden}. And, if you have any burrows defined, be sure the moody dwarf is not a member of any of them. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 03:37, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
::His only other available skill was stonecrafting at level 1. Otherwise he totally lacked any industrial skills. I triple checked the three craftsdwarf stations I had, none of them were blocked, forbidden or otherwise inaccessible. No burrows had been generated. I scrapped the game or I could have posted the files. I'll see if it happens again, I'd never had the issue before. It is more than likely that I was at fault somehow, but I just couldn't find why. [[User:Nubcake|Nubcake]] 07:16, 29 July 2010

I just had this same issue. DF2010. Guy got fey mood and also happens to be expedition leader. Dabbling grower. Skilled appraiser. Novice Organizer. Talented Record Keeper. He's set as expedition leader, manager, bookkeeper, and broker. Did what 0x517A5D said above, no dice. Hope this helps --[[User:W-dueck|w-dueck]] 04:24, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:Did you have a craftsdwarfs workshop, which is what dwarfs with no moodable skills take?--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 06:01, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

I have this issue as well. high master armormsith, novice metal crafter, and adept pump operator. Obviously, he could take a metalsmith's forge, but he refuses to take either the conventional, or the magma versions. Just stands around at my well. [[User:Psychobones|Psychobones]] 00:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

== Body Parts? ==
I had a fey dorf scream for 'body parts' while four perfectly good raccoon bones stood nearby in a refuse stockpile. As the poor child was on the cusp of insanity, I slaughtered a mule and two puppies in desperation. Surprisingly, as soon as the puppy bones were made available, Urist McBonescreamer took them over to the Craftdwarf's Workshop without so much as a "how do you do". Why is there this distinction between different kinds of bone? [[Special:Contributions/81.86.135.171|81.86.135.171]] 22:34, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
quick edit: Mother of God, I've never seen anything like this. The child was only content with - I kid you not - '''''21''''' puppy bones in the end. Why so much goddamn bone? Seriously? 22:39, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

== Stopping at Nothing ==
It seems no matter what a dwarf will try to fulfill his mood. Even if his leg (and ribs) are broken he'll jump out of bed and find a workshop.--[[Special:Contributions/99.67.238.66|99.67.238.66]] 00:19, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
:Should've checked 40d first as it's confirmed that they do this in that version. I would like to know if the moody dwarves suffer the same effects of non moody dwarves with injuries while trying to find workshops (fainting, vomiting etc.).--[[Special:Contributions/99.67.238.66|99.67.238.66]] 00:24, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
== I think we need to do complete rearrange on mood materials ==

I got fey mood and dorf kept screaming for "rock bars" and logs. He picked up logs, but not rock blocks. This is either bug, or new stuff I haven't figured out yet.
--[[Special:Contributions/94.237.66.205|94.237.66.205]] 08:16, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Rock bars means metal bars, I think. That what satisfied my fey dorf.

:I can confirm this. I had no metal bars and ordered one to be smelted (it was iron bar), mood'd dwarf rushed to pick it up and finished construction. Most likely this is just a typo (rock -> metal) and nothing complicated like import bars etc. (as in comments below) [[User:Fuco|Fuco]] 02:05, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

:Are you sure it's not charcoal (edit: I meant coke) that they want? They could easily be considered 'rock' bars. I'm going to see now, I haven't got either now that he's collected my steel bars, so can check what he wants.--[[Special:Contributions/92.29.248.178|92.29.248.178]] 15:12, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

:My fey dwarf was not satisfied by my massive stockpile of metal bars, or the large amounts of (ore and not-ore) uncut stone, or the stone blocks I demanded produced en masse. I think rock bars are actually what he is looking for, and as they cannot be produced, I was forced to lose a metalsmith in a craftsdwarf's to a berserk rage, followed by two wrestlers and a pack of dogs. Tell him that it's a typo. --[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 03:15, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

:For me, ordinary metal bars were ignored until I made an adamantine wafer, but ymmv. --[[User:zergl|zergl]]

:On mine it's just taken an iron bar before the lazy bugger began working on his mysterious construction. --[[User:Mrchinchin25|Mrchinchin25]] 21:23, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

:: I just had a guy ask for "rock bars" and he took two steel bars from my stocks. Possible thing -- they were imported. Maybe only imported metal bars? --[[User:Waladil|Waladil]] 02:42, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

:::I can confirm, Asked for wood, rock blocks, rock bars; took fungiwood, dolomite blocks, and imported steel bars. Haven't had a second mood to try non-imports. --andrei901 21:04, 4 August 2010

:: I had a guy ask for "rock bars" and he wouldn't do anything until I realized my blocks were in my trade depot. He then took my gold bars. [

::In 0.31.06, my metalsmith interprets "rock bars" as rock block, which is rather confusing, because he also asked for "rock blocks". Item asked: Rocks, Rock bars, Rock blocks, Cut gems, Silk cloths, Metal bars. Items taken: Copper bars, Olivine blocks, Red beryls, Dacite, Giant cave spider silk cloth, Tanzanites, Dacite blocks, Wood opals. --[[User:Arkatufus|Arkatufus]] 13:44, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

::In my case "rock bars" meant iron bar as well, so it suggests metal bars. [[User:Boldwyn|Boldwyn]] 22:08, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

::I just had a fey dwarf asking for "rock bars". He wouldn't accept: rocks, rock blocks, grates, charcoal, iron bars (non-imported), electrum bars (non-imported), copper bars (bought at embark, marked ingame as imported), pig iron bars. Unfortunately he was "stricken by melancholy" just before I smelted some steel bars. v0.31.12 --[[Special:Contributions/91.193.86.67|91.193.86.67]] 10:36, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Shame. Armoursmith only wanted one bar. If anyone else gets a chance, I'd love to see a charcoal / coke armoured wrestler take on a magma man ;P 92.29.248.178, 18:39, 11 April 2010

I had a strange mood (possessed) with 17 dwarves, so the 'at least 20 dwarves' condition should be removed. Also, the dwarf was struck with the mood right after he migrated to my fort. Right after, as in he was still 2 tiles away from the edge of the map. 78.23.137.83, 15:32, 20 April 2010 
:I can confirm, 20 dwarfs are not needed for a mood.-[[User:Mhyder|mhyder]]
:So it does appear that mood trigger conditions have changed. I'll try to do some disassembly and report what I find. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 20:56, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
::(If anyone can find Truth, it's 0x5. He is personally responsible for 75%+ of the 40d info. You da man!)--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 21:05, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Every time I have one ask for rock bars, coke, charcoal, ash, or any kind of metal bar works. (Though, one time, the dwarf used soap.)(No, I don't know, either.) So, evidently, rocjk bars just means bars of any material.

- When my dwarf asked for Rock Bars I could fix it by making some iron bars.

I'm getting *rock bars* and have everything in my fortress. Is this a confirmed bug? Never imported metal or metal bars in my fortress history and reading the above it may be related to *imported* metal bars or perhaps crafting metal bars from imported metal (which would explain why some can craft a metal bar and have it work, while others are locked to imported..) however can we get to the bottom of this? I'm not losing a man.. uh.. dwarf over the situation..

I just got a dwarf demanding body parts, rock bars, rock blocks, and rock bars in 31.25. I'm not sure whether it's due to all the rearranging of the bar/block section that's been going on, but NOTHING is satisfying the rock bars request. (He has a stack of dog bones collected already.) Tried coke, ash, potash, pearlash, metal bars of all kinds (including an aluminum metal bar and an imported pig iron bar), and at least one block of every kind of rock, metal, and clay I could gather. Nothing works.

== Saving & reloading not changing mood type ==

Thanks to a crash, I had to reload my fortress, saved about a month before a strange mood. It occurred at roughly the same time, with the same dwarf, with the same type of mood. The item was different however.-[[User:Studoku|Studoku]] 14:06, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

:I believe that's expected behavior. The mood type, if I recall, is based on happiness of the dwarf, and thus should be consistent over loads. The type of craft is determined by their highest skill, unless they have no quality-based skill, in which case it's a toss up between useless woodcrafting, near-useless stonecrafting, and sweet sweet bonecarving. --[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 14:20, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
::Mood types are ''generally'' not based on happiness and also not that hardwired to the state of the fort, meaning they are likely to change on reload. There are higher probabilities for some skills to get a mood and that makes it likely the same dwarf is chosen, esp. if the fort is small. There is a chance counter running down, usually resulting in a mood in the same time window on reload. What in fact has changed is that the item produced is determined on completion now, not on start out, allowing for even more <s>exploit</s> tweaking. --[[Special:Contributions/92.202.66.218|92.202.66.218]] 16:03, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== Body Parts ==

Just got a fey mood dwarf asking for them. -[[User:Studoku|Studoku]] 00:22, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

:He means bones or turtle shells. Get him some. --[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 02:01, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

:I think the word here is "or", I have a dwarf shouting for body parts while bones pile high around him, so I'm guessing it really is Bones '''or''' shell, not either. -The Anon

:I had this happen as well - I had six mussel shells laying around, nothing. Built a Butchery, slaughtered a horse, and he immediately snapped up the 13 bones, kept screaming for body parts and logs. So I sent a poor puppy to its doom for another 4 bones, and he immediately went to work. Debnetig, a enormous horse bone corkscrew! (That just sounds so wrong.)

:Confirmed: had ample bones and no shell. Processed some turtles into shells, and the fey dwarf made a dash for them and began a construction. Edit the "Strange mood" page to represent this? --[[User:Ritesign|Ritesign]] 02:56, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

== Possible Bug ==

I'm having an issue where occasionally a dwarf won't collect items I'm 100% sure I have available, i.e. he'll get leather and then ask for more even when more is clearly there, he'll ask for bones/wood when there's a stockpile right next to him, etc. I've tried just about everything including manually dumping the needed supplies on the Craftdwarf's workshop. Nothing seems to work and since it's happened to me many times, I'm thinking bug.--[[Special:Contributions/69.149.72.106|69.149.72.106]] 05:45, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

:Dwarves in moods will continue to ask for the same list they started out asking for, regardless of which items they've already collected. They also collect them in order. So if he asks for:

*leather
*body parts
*plant cloth
*rough gems
*leather

:and he already has leather, bones, and plant cloth, he'll keep repeating the same list until rough gems are available, then go get them, then get more leather, then begin a mysterious construction.--[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 12:19, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

::I may be seeing the same issue as above. I have a dwarf in a possessed mood locked in a workshop looking for:
::*rough...colour
::*stone...rock (has bauxite)
::*gems...shining (has indigo tourmalines)
::*tree...life (has palm logs)
::*bones...yes (has mule bones. I liked that mule)

::I'm unsure of the order they originally came up in, but of course I have uncut gems lying all over the place (including a store pile of cut and uncut gems about ten tiles away.)

::I'm also very new to DF, so I could be missing something. I'm going to save a copy of it as it is currently. [[User:Eddy the lip|Eddy the lip]] 19:25, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

:::He may want rough glass, instead of normal gems. Dwarves can be picky. --[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 19:27, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
::::If he wanted raw glass, he should've been mumbling "raw... [green/clear/crystal]". It was only in the old 2D version where "rough gems" (and its secretive/possessed equivalents) could occasionally mean "raw glass". --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 19:54, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

::::Yeah, rough glass didn't do it. I suppose there's the possibility that he requires a specific kind of rough gem. He has a preference for moss opals (I only have jelly opals.) If I can find some, and that works, I'll post back. Otherwise, I'll have to get work on the catacombs! [[User:Eddy the lip|Eddy the lip]] 20:18, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

::::Burrows also affect moody dwarves. If you have only a rock stockpile designated for the poor guy, he's trying to find bones and gems from within that burrow (stockpile).

== Magma Workshops ==
So, I just a had a Glassmaker be possessed and be unwilling (unable?) to claim a Magma glass furnace. When I built a regular furnace, he claimed it just fine and went on about his business. Not sure if this applies to all other magma disciplines, but if you're having this problem, try building a regular one (then deconstruct it afterwards, I guess). [[User:Rodya mirov|Rodya mirov]]
: A magma forge worked for me. Just make sure it doesn't get unpowered after it has been claimed because the dwarf immediately ran amok when this happened. [[Special:Contributions/84.46.87.224|84.46.87.224]] 11:45, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

I just had the same problem with a Magma forge; I used the same anvil to build a Metalsmith's forge below the old site and the dwarf happily claimed the MS F.[[Special:Contributions/76.29.33.118|76.29.33.118]] 18:35, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

I had the same problem with magma glass furnaces. Only normal glass furnaces will work.--[[Special:Contributions/24.8.192.250|24.8.192.250]] 21:36, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

== Obsidian Farming SCIENCE ==
Someone needs to figure out definitely whether obsidian farming allows more moods.

== 'Nother Possible Bug ==
Today I was tending the fortress when my bookkeeper went into a secretive mood while on break in the dining hall. He did not claim a workshop, he did not sketch anything. He just sat there, slowly losing his mind until he finally went insane. I'm not sure what I did wrong. Right now the game is paused with the still-insane dwarf just sitting amongst all the others. I'm afraid to unpause it because I really don't want to see what's going to happen to the little bastard. [[User:PurelyAtomic|PurelyAtomic]]

::Maybe you didn't have the workshop he needed? The symptoms seem to match. --[[User:Speed112|Speed112]] 01:01, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

:Later that year a different dwarf, a Stonecrafter, was possessed. He holed himself up in his workshop and made a Claystone scepter called the Stin Shadmal. It's worth a ridiculous amount. [[User:PurelyAtomic|PurelyAtomic]] 00:57, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== Yet another possible bug ==

My leatherworker was possessed, claimed a leather works, then wanted leather and cut gems. I tan a hide, cut about 7 or 8 gems, then about 20 minutes later, I see "Degel Zefonusan has begun a mysterious construction!". I go over, look at the items in the workshop, and find out he took 3 units of donkey leather. I think there should be some way of finding out how many of a certain thing he needs. This caused a lot of confusion for me.--[[User:Joejr50|Joejr50]] 20:18, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
: You can estimate the number of items by duration of each scream/sketch/muttering. If some particular material request shows longer than other, it means crafter needs several items of that type. But I never got requests of more than 3 items of one type. --[[User:Peregarrett|Peregarrett]] 12:12, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

== And another bug... ==

I've now had two dwarfs produce bone items from strange moods. In both cases, bone was requested (dwarfs had no skill) as well as various other goods - gems, cloth, leather, and rock - but the final artifact was a bone artifact with zero decoration. One dwarf was possessed, the other was a mysterious mood.

Anyone experience similar?--[[User:Nimblewright|Nimblewright]] 17:42, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:Yes - in fact, it was reported 3 weeks ago on the bug tracker: {{bug|2806}} --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 18:32, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

== Fell mood murder ==

I think it requires some clarification. Does the moody dwarf attack their victim, drag them to workshop and insta-kill them or insta-kill them on the place and then drag the corpse? --[[User:Someone-else|Someone-else]] 20:22, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:In 40d, the moody dwarf would insta-kill his victim wherever he/she was standing (without the victim even being able to defend itself, much like slaughtering), then drag the corpse to the workshop. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 20:45, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:I also had a fell mood murder in DF2010. It seems like it uses the same game mechanics as slaughtering (instant-kill without combat mechanics). --18:46, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

::I just had a Fell mood in 31.12. The Dwarf who undertook the mood first claimed a Tanner's shop then stalked the (corpse-strewn, gradually flooding) halls of my fortress for quite a while. Eventually, he grabbed an alread-dead Dwarf's corpse and hauled it back to the Tannery. And now... I have a lovely Dwarf Bone Cage which sadly will be lost soon when my fortress finishes self-destructing in an orgy of tantrums and doomsday-level flooding. [[Special:Contributions/71.232.137.20|71.232.137.20]] 04:59, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

:::Interesting, very interesting. I thought fell moods always involved a murder. Is there any chance that the dead dwarf was alive when the mood started? —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 12:16, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

::::I can not rule it out; at the time, Dwarves were dropping from starvation (as the food stockpile was cut off from the upper levels by flooded intermediate levels), so the "material" might have expired after the mood started. Its noteworthy that the Dwarf with the mood spent a lot of time first sitting on the workshop (as if he was missing a material), then wandering seemingly randomly through the fort. [[Special:Contributions/71.232.137.20|71.232.137.20]] 17:26, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

:In 31.11 my Fell mood dwarf claimed a magma forge, he proceeded to mull around the area and at a whim proceeded to murder my dwarf operating a magma furnace. He dragged the corpse to my magma forge and produced a dwarf bone short sword. So as far as I can tell, he kills them on site, not at the place they intend to process the dwarf. --[[User:Knossos|Knossos]] 08:10, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

== Skills affected by artifact creation ==

My miner got a fey mood, claimed mason workshop and created hematite table, decorated with giant toad bone and tube agate. Before getting mood he had miner, carpenter and bowyer labor skills, and now he is a legendary MINER! Making stone furniture now counts as digging experience?! --[[User:Peregarrett|Peregarrett]] 12:46, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:Oops. my fault. I always thought miner is not-moodable skill, but it was moodable even at 40d --[[User:Peregarrett|Peregarrett]] 13:48, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

== Possessed Mood Causes ==

Do we know for sure what causes Possessed moods? A few seconds after crushing twenty or so dwarves and various livestock beneath a drawbridge (great fun, lemme tell ya) a dwarf woke from his sleep due to a Possessed mood, and made an Aventurine scepter. Also, ''"On the item is an image of Zefon Stopchamber the dwarf in aventurine. Zefon Stopchamber is cringing. The artwork relates to the crushing of the dwarf Zefon Stopchamber under a drawbridge in Helmsball in the midautumn of 202."'' So, maybe Possessed moods are caused by recent deaths, or deceased friends? Just guessing here, maybe it was just coincidence, but interesting all the same. [[Special:Contributions/174.31.104.180|174.31.104.180]] 00:02, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
:Coincidence - as far as anybody knows, they're entirely random. The only moods that result from recent deaths or deceased friends are Fell/Macabre moods, and only because they happen when an unhappy dwarf enters a strange mood. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 00:18, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
:You might be on to something: I recall Toady mentioning ghosts a while ago. My newest fort also succumbed to thirst (2 miners survived) and I got 2 possessions for next two moods after migration (but due to rock bars problem it kinda didn't work out for them as I had sold my anvil for). [[Special:Contributions/90.191.16.52|90.191.16.52]] 10:39, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:: I'm aware of the next comment (about disassembly) and do believe it - yet I got another possession in the same damn castle; 3 out of 4. Is it possible that code is compiled yet never used? Still, chance works like this too. [[Special:Contributions/90.191.16.52|90.191.16.52]] 11:43, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Nope. A short glance at DF .08 with a [http://www.hex-rays.com/idapro/ disassembler that tracks code flow] shows only one path that reaches the message " has been possessed!" and it comes directly from the 0..2 random number test mentioned below. It's random, you've had slightly bad luck, but your experience is well within statistically expected results. You've essentially rolled a die four times, and gotten a 1 or 2 on three of the rolls. You might want to read about the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy Gambler's fallacy] a.k.a. the so-called [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_averages law of averages] and the fallacy of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization hasty generalization]. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 03:41, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:It's all a coincidence. I just disassembled the bit of the 0.31.08 strange mood that chooses mood type. It hasn't changed since the .40d days, except for excessive optimization by the compiler.
:*First, a random number between 0 and 49 is generated.
:*If that number is ''higher'' than the dwarf's current happiness scalar,
:**then a random number between 0 and 1 is generated.
:**0 results in a fell mood.
:**1 results in a macabre mood.
:*Otherwise,
:**a random number between 0 and 2 is generated.
:**0 results in a fey mood.
:**1 results in a secretive mood.
:**2 results in a possessed mood.
:Purely random. Disassembly available on request. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 04:19, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
::i have read and understood the above, but i'm not exactly sure that the '0/1/2' number is generated COMPLETELY at random. i think one of the factors at work is the dwarf's skills once they're selected for a 'strange mood' - if he has a 'moodable' skill, even 'dabbling'(prob.) or 'novice', then the dwarf will go to the corresponding workshop and increase that skill (quite possibly to legendary) with the +20,000 skillpoints on completion of the artifact. however, if the dwarf has no 'moodable' skill (i.e. only military skills, social skills or administrative skills), then they become 'possessed'. i'm basing this on the fact that i have had only ONE non-possessed mood, out of about 12; a clothier (who's now legendary). the rest have all, incredibly disappointingly, been 'possessed' (and yeah, i'm aware of the law of averages/etc). the reason my dwarves dont have any other skills is because they were all specialised from embark or migration, or military/haulers. thus, i only have 18 dwarves actively training a 'moodable' profession, out of 150+. the rest have probably lost their 'moodable' skills over the years from the 'rusting' effect, or simply not been selected. thoughts?--[[User:DJ Devil|DJ Devil]] 16:36, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
:::It's all a coincidence. Purely random. Disassembly available on request. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 14:57, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
:I just had my first Possessed Dwarf and it was a bonecrafter with no workshop. Didn't take much to work out what I needed to build but could the lack of a workshop related to their profession be a factor in the equation? I know as a fact that death isn't needed for one to happen as it's the 1st mood of a new fort and not even a tame stray has died yet.
--[[Special:Contributions/124.180.132.157|124.180.132.157]] 06:07, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
::i do not think having a workshop (or not) affects which type of mood is selected. i think it's more like... 'happiness > skills > random number'. in effect; if your dwarf is happy, it will not be a 'fell' or 'macabre' mood. if your dwarf does NOT have a 'moodable' skill, then he'll be 'possessed'. if he DOES have a 'moodable' skill, it's a random number out of 3 for 'fey', 'secretive' or 'possessed'. and i would also like to confirm that 'dabbling' is enough to be counted as good enough for a mood - i had a dabbling mechanic (with no other 'moodable' skills) claim a mechanic's workshop, and surprisingly make a mechanism... and he wasnt 'possessed' like the others, he was 'fey'.--[[User:DJ Devil|DJ Devil]]

== Shells ==

Mussel shells count as shells along with turtle shells and cave lobster shells. Should change the page to include them .
: Cave lobsters don't produce shells anymore. Only turtle, oyster and mussel do - see [[DF2010:Shell|shell]] page.[[User:Peregarrett|Peregarrett]] 06:50, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

== Materials in hospitals ==

What I have found is that materials a dwarf need that that only exist in containers in hospitals will not be claimed until the container is removed and the material is liberated. Need a second check on this then it might be worth putting on this page. 05:34, 17 June 2010 Bungler
:That kind of makes sense, similar to how trader's goods can't be used. Did you try setting the level of material required by the hospital to 0? Incidentally, four tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> signs your talk page posts. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 10:21, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

== Metal working dwarves and magma workshops... ==

I doubt that this is a bug, but i think it needs further confirmation, i had a possessed metalsmith, who claimed a magma forge the moment the channel under it filled to workable status, but due to the fact that it wasn't completely full and lava was moving, the workshop momentarily lost "power". The dwarf immediately canceled the mood and went berserk. Now, i doubt that ''every'' moody metalsmith would do that, but more just do the general insanity thing and go any of the possible moods. Can anyone confirm this with their dorfs? v31.08 here, just for reference - [[User:Vrga|Vrga]] 06:51, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
*It's always been this way, even in 40d. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 14:46, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
**didn't know that, as its not stated ''anywhere'' at all... - [[User:Vrga|Vrga]] 11:38, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== Possessed Mood and Experience ==

So far under v31 I've had a handful of dorfs get possessed and build themselves an artifact. The wiki still says that Possessed dwarfs don't gain xp, but mine have all ended up Legendary in whatever skill they used at completion.
:Coincidence. Remember that the moodable skill with the highest experience level is the one chosen; it just happened that your possessed dwarves were already legendary. I just checked my disassembly of 0.31.06. All successful moods ''except possession'' gain 20,000 experience points; possessions go not gain anything. This is the same as its always been. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 02:37, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Mining exp? ==

A couple times my dwarves made artifacts (not possessed) at a mason's workshop, to become legendary miners. They do not appear to have gained skill in masonry or anything else like that. --[[User:Peglegpenguin|Peglegpenguin]] 20:11, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes mining is a moodable skill.It does not have a workshop so you must think of it like they made it with their picks. If I'm correct they will take either a masonry or crafsworkshop and make their artifact there.

== Population of 20+==

According to Tarn in Dwarf Talk 7, in order for a fey mood to occur you must have a population of 20 or more for the mood to occur. So I really think we should have this in the article. [[User:Sadron|Sadron]] 19:00, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
:That was specifically removed from the article because two people, Anonymous-78.23.137.83 and [[User:mhyder|mhyder]], have reported moods with less than 20 dwarves. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 22:27, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
::I see, however were they able to provide evidence for it? [[User:Sadron|Sadron]] 01:51, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
:::The claims are on this page, about halfway down. No evidence was presented, nor requested. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 18:29, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
I have had one with 11 dwarfs.
(I had had twenty, nine were slaughtered by goblins, (And zombies) and before more came, one went into a fey mood.)

::::Could it be that you need to BREAK a pop of 20 for one to be able to trigger? Perhaps even as specific as when the mood is brewing (before your notified) you have to have more then 20 but that stop it in the case of say a goblin slaughter...
::::--[[Special:Contributions/124.180.132.157|124.180.132.157]] 06:11, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

:::::No, that is not the case. I've just played two quick forts, and my first mood happened very quickly after the first of the two scripted immigration waves both games. I started with 14 dwarves both games.
::::: The first game was 14 + 7 = 21 Dwarves before the mood happened, 2 days after the immigrants arrived.
::::: The second game was 14 + 3 = 17 Dwarves before the mood happened, 8 days after the immigrants arrived.

:::::Could be coincidence, but I'm guessing the new trigger is either between 15 and 17 dwarves, or not related to the number of dwarves. --[[User:Naros|Naros]] 07:23, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

== Other requests ==

Right now i'm having a dorf (metal crafter) who is in a fey mood and asks for "adamantine wafers", exactly. Of course, he got it, just stopped on "body parts", which i have 200 at hand, no burrows. He's just a little bitch.
Oh, sorry, DF 31.10, [[Special:Contributions/78.140.48.35|78.140.48.35]] 08:12, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:It happens fairly often (and even back in 40d) that a moody metalsmith will insist on a very specific metal. In most cases, that metal would be the dwarf's favorite metal, but I always observed that once I had struck raw adamantine, all moody metalsmiths would insist on using adamantine wafers. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 12:53, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

== Strange problem with moods ==

I was wondering if anyone else had this problem. I've already had 2 dwarves go insane because they couldn't get materials for an artifact. Everything they ask for is in my fort, and there are no burrow restrictions or anything forbidden. It seems to only happen when they take over a clothier's workshop (which has no restrictions on it, BTW) and ask for cloth - even though there is a huge stockpile of cloth right next to the workshop. I have a third dwarf currently doing the same thing and I actually want to save his life for once. [[Special:Contributions/98.228.196.111|98.228.196.111]] 21:39, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
: Do you have both silk and plant cloth? Both are requested as "stacked cloth" but aren't equivalent for secretive moody dwarf. Same for posessed one.[[User:Peregarrett|Peregarrett]] 06:55, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
: Also, it's possible that he wants a piece of cloth which is stored in a hospital. He can't take it out of there and so he'll go insane waiting to get it. My solution was to de-zone the hospital and unbuild all the chests inside it, allowing him to grab the cloth that he wants.--[[Special:Contributions/208.81.12.34|208.81.12.34]] 12:57, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Woodcrafter mood? ==

I had a woodcrafter get a secretive mood. He claimed a mechanics shop. Clearly he should have claimed a craftsdwarf shop. I checked his stats and sure enough, both woodcrafting and mechanics were proficient, among other mood skills. I don't use any other DF tools, so I couldn't see the exact experience levels. My hypothesis is one of two things. First, perhaps the skill had rusted, but that the change doesn't get reflected in their professions? Second, perhaps both were exactly the same skill level. Moods pick a random one, or pick one different from the one the title uses? Anyone seen something like this?--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 12:10, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
:Were both skills equal? Perhaps he migrated in as a proficient woodcrafter and mechanic? It may be that it only regards the level of their proficiency rather than their EXP value for it. --[[User:Eurytus|Eurytus]] 20:21, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::In the previous major release, the skill with the most experience points was used; the level was not considered. I don't see any reason for that to have changed. I would suspect rust. Savegame? —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 21:24, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Old, but for posterity - dwarf profession only changes when the old profession is *outleveled* by the new profession. So its perfectly possible your Woodcrafter had more xp in Mechanics, just not enough to put him a level of mechanics over his woodcrafter level and thus change his profession to Mechanic. --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 05:26, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

== Magma Forge vs. Normal Forge ==

I had a Dwarf who got the Fey mood and didnt want to claim a Workshop. I built any possible Workshop, except a Forge, since I had a Magma Forge. The Dwarf didnt accept the Magma Forge but when i disassemled it and built a Normal Metlsmiths Forge he claimed it immediately. So it seems for moody dwarfs thats not the same. -- Blue Crake 30.10.10
:Yes, this sometimes happens. Reported above, item #9. Also reported several times on the 40d Talk Strange Mood page. I'm glad you figured out the workaround. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 22:40, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
I wrote that to tell, that this is the case for the forge too, not only the glassmaker. I can`t find anything about this in the mainpage of DF2010 Moods. Shouldn`t it be here as well, as long as this bug (is it a bug or rather a caveat?) exists? Needing a normal forge is kinda counterintuitive, as moody dwarfs dont use fuel anyway. Also do moody dwarfs always take nonmagma-buildings or just sometimes? --[[User:Blue Crake|Blue Crake]] 10:42, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

This seems like a bug to me, why does normal vs. magma matter? It really shouldn't. Just want to make sure this is noted as bug. – [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Pathaugen|Pathaugen]]
: It's not a bug, it's a feature. Maybe the dwarf doesn't like worrying about having his shiny artifact, or the components thereof, falling into a pool of magma through a careless elbow. Maybe the dwarf prefers working in a cooler environment. Or maybe the decision software merely selects the first type of workshop that can handle the strange mood, and it would be annoying to the developer to make it select magma workshops if you have only them, and non-magma workshops if you have only those. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 21:38, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

:: Being alpha, it's important to note intended vs. 'for now' interworkings so there is a nice wish list of how the game can improve in the future. Sure that's how it may work because of the programming, but with that mindset, the game is done and nothing else needs to change? I just think it's healthy having discussion instead of just putting all ideas off as nonsense because that's the way it is and always should be. [[User:Pathaugen|Pathaugen]] 05:22, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

:::I thoroughly agree with DeMatt here. This wiki is about how the game ''does'' operate, not how it ''should'' operate. There's no point in putting future-development wish-lists here - those belong on the bay12games forums. [[Special:Contributions/202.156.10.234|202.156.10.234]] 02:30, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

::::Not his point, it should be listed as a known bug if it is such. As you said it is the ''alpha'' so we can expect changes, especially the removal of bugs. That way as a wiki we can keep readers informed of likely version changes. :P
::::--[[Special:Contributions/124.180.132.157|124.180.132.157]] 06:15, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

== Highest experience skill not chosen ==

I just had a dwarf have a fey mood who had 3180 xp in metalcrafting and 3000 in all the other metalworking skills. I was expecting to get a legendary blacksmith out of the deal, which I really could have used, but instead she ended up making a crossbow and being a legendary weapon smith (which I already had...) So apparently they don't always take the highest xp, perhaps its actually just picked at random amongst the highest talent level, since by level all 4 moodable skills were equal.
[[User:Barbarossa6969|Barbarossa6969]] 15:26, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== multiple items not always displayed longer ==

Regarding the "2 seconds per item needed" rule, I've found that it doesn't always apply. I've seen certain materials displayed for the same 2 seconds as everything else, but sometimes (not always) multiples of the material are collected. I've seen it happen with (at least) wood, bone, and cloth, and usually (always?) in threes. I think it also tends to be the ''primary'' material (1st thing gathered, and the thing the artifact is eventually listed as being made from), but I'm not as sure about that. It's an important point, and might be the cause of many of the complaints of "he said he needed X, and I had plenty of X around!" (i.e. he actually needed more X-1) [[Special:Contributions/202.156.10.234|202.156.10.234]] 01:54, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

:Just had this happen again, this time with rough gems as the primary material. "rough gems" displayed the normal two seconds, two rough gems gathered, (not three). The same artifact also required 2 logs (as secondary materials, not primary) and "wood logs" was displayed the expected 4 seconds, which seems to confirm it's the primary material that does it. I'll add it to the page with a verify tag.

== Random mood crafting. ==

One of my dwarves got a possessed mood during a stage where I'm still setting up my various workshops. The only moodable skill he had was Tanning, so I built a leatherworks and tanner's shop, but he still just hung around the meeting area. I decided to ignore him and set up a craftsdwarf workshop for another reason, and suddenly this dwarf goes and claims it. Is it possible that moods, possibly just possessed moods, can choose skills that the dwarf does not have in the slightest? will update when the item is finished --[[User:Twilightdusk|Twilightdusk]] 02:58, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

:I'm thinking he's using the craftdwarf's workshop because of its "Make leather crafts" option. --[[User:Peglegpenguin|Peglegpenguin]] 03:36, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

:I have a possessed bonecrafter and I made the 'incredible' guess of what workshop (a craftdwarf's workshop) i needed to build to get the lazy sod out of bed. I'm confident it's atleast highly probable they will pick a skill they have, probability increasing with exp in that (or those) skills.
:--[[Special:Contributions/124.180.132.157|124.180.132.157]] 06:18, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

== Rock Blocks in Strange Mood ==
One of my clothesmaker dwarves decided to get a strange mood, so I afforded him all his needed materials, except for one thing: rock blocks. He most certainly asked for them, and I decided to make metal blocks, just to see if he would take them. I made an electrum block and he took it right away and began to work. I suggest stone blocks be changed to stone/metal blocks in the demands section.
--[[Special:Contributions/173.48.59.215|173.48.59.215]] 23:45, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

== Farmer + Strange Mood = Legendary Weaponsmith ==
Not complaining, but I just had a High Master Grower / Adequate Herbalist "withdraw from society...", I examined her skills to see what was coming, and not seeing any moodable skills, fully expected her to claim a craftdwarf's workshop, but was pleasantly surprised to find she had claimed a metalsmith's forge and created a golden crossbow, elevating her to legendary weaponsmith! There was nothing in her personality to explain this odd occurrence (she does however, like chestnuts for their chestnuts). This is of course contrary to what the [[Strange Mood]] page states. Perhaps the rules have changed. --[[User:Uninvited Guest|Uninvited Guest]] 21:07, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
:Perhaps she arrived with some Weaponsmith skill that completely rusted away while you had her do farming instead? --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 00:46, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
::I thought about that as well, but I didn't realize that skills actually disappeared. The [[Skills]] page does not state that but looking closer in the talk page, it appears to be true. All things considered, your theory is quite likely. Thanks. --[[User:Uninvited Guest|Uninvited Guest]] 01:28, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

== Starvation/Dehydration ==
Can a dwarf die from either while in a mood?

:No, AFAIK it's like when they Trance in combat. All need for food / water / sleep vanishes for the duration. Could be wrong. May require !!science!!.

== Dwarf not using available materials? ==

Do the materials that a dwarf in a mood wants have to be on the same z-level/in a stockpile/nearby? I had one in a fey mood who appeared to be asking for jet (at least, that's what it said when I viewed the workshop he was using with the q key), and I had ridiculous amounts of jet two levels down, but he never moved to get it and eventually just went insane. (I tried to get the other dwarves to move some up to where he was, but they didn't do anything. ><)--[[Special:Contributions/118.208.147.173|118.208.147.173]] 09:39, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:Dwarves don't demand specific types of stones - if he didn't gather the material, you probably didn't have it at all. What '''exactly''' was the dwarf asking for (and what had the dwarf gathered so far)? --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 13:48, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
::He asked for two things: rock and body parts. He'd already got the body parts. I had plenty of other kinds of stone as well, so maybe I missed a line or something? --[[Special:Contributions/118.208.147.173|118.208.147.173]] 10:34, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

== "The type of artifact created will depend on the dwarf's highest skill." - what with soaper? ==

Yes, talented soaper. [[Special:Contributions/213.134.175.225|213.134.175.225]] 22:04, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

== Fun fact ==
Clothier dorf can pick a clothier's workshop, go pick up adamantine cloth (not normally workable at a clothier's), attempt to make a rope out of it (because you can do that at a clothier's), and wind up making an adamantine chain. —[[User:Chaos|Chaos]] 21:20, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
:Indeed - I've had that happen at least once back in 40d. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 22:01, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

==Yet Another Bone Carving Bug==
I had a possessed bone carver claim a Craftdwarf's workshop, immediately run off and grab a bone, start a mysterious construction, sit in the workshop for months, then go insane. I honestly have no idea what to think about that. —[[User:Exploratory Mushroom|Exploratory Mushroom]] 22:44, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

:Just speculation, but was the workshop cluttered? Some animals leave huge stacks of bone (e.g Jabberer can be >200), and certain animal skulls (e.g. Jabberer, again) can make a workshop **CLT** all by itself. With the length of time some artifacts take to construct, I can imagine a maximally cluttered workshop might stretch the creation time out for months [[Special:Contributions/202.156.10.234|202.156.10.234]] 22:48, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

== Clothier won't take materials ==

I have a possessed clothier who needs cloth and silk. I have both, but she just sits at the workshop and will go insane unless I figure out why she won't take the materials. They are both giant cave spider materials right next to each other up the staircase right by the workshop. I also have rope reed thread somewhere that I bought from an elven caravan, but she won't take that either. What's going on?
:There are two versions of "cloth... thread" that "possessed" Dwarves could be asking for. What they are saying is a little misleading; rather than them wanting actual thread, they are only asking for cloth. It is likely that the affected Dwarf wants ''plant fiber cloth'', '''not''' silk cloth or plant fiber thread. If you have some plant fiber cloth thread, as you said, make it into cloth and it should work. For future reference, this is a talk page about the Strange mood article, not a discussion forum. Please ask questions like this on the [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?board=7.0 Official Dwarf Fortress Forums], [http://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/ /r/dwarffortress at reddit.com],or the other Dwarf Fortress community of your choice. --[[User:Gzalzi|Gzalzi]] 14:45, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
::Oh, thanks. I asked this here because every other topic seems to be discussion, but okay... [[User:OrangePikmin|OrangePikmin]] 19:47, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Yeah, they are all discussions, but they're not supposed to be. --[[User:Gzalzi|Gzalzi]] 21:13, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

== Fell Moods with different workshops? ==
Just played a round of DF and my little fortress got besieged, several dwarfes died. One dwarf then got a Fell mood and went to CARPENTER Workshop. He claimed it and went off to kill the nearest dwarf. Is it possible that the fell moods only prefer butcher- and tanner workshops, but they will work with other workshops as well? Seemed a little bit odd to me that he used a carpentry workshop...

==Do Dwarves Steal==
I had a dwarf refusing to do anything but demand rock. Which is weird in itself, as rocks are plentiful underground. Then, just as I gave her up for lost, I saw her grab a hunk of galena from the trade depot. It was in ( ), and I certainly didn't trade for it, as I have galena in the fortress. Did she grab it off a merchant? [[Special:Contributions/68.197.174.59|68.197.174.59]] 19:16, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
:I think starving dwarves will steal food from traders. So I'm not too surprised that a moody dwarf would take something that is technically fortress property. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 23:49, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
::I've observed Dwarves stealing from caravans for moods on more than one occasion. It doesn't appear to happen with every mood where they're missing something, so it might have to do with the type of mood or the personality of the moody dwarf. --[[User:SethCreiyd|SethCreiyd]] 17:31, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

==cloth... thread...==
i think i can confirm this also means 'cloth(yarn)' for possessed dwarves, based on having both silk and plant fibre cloth AND thread available, in stockpiles nearby, but my possessed dwarf not going for either. there were also a number of other items on his list, but he'd found them all, and had them 'TSK'ed in the workshop. unfortunately, i'd left him to it too long (thinking he had all the items at his disposal, and would get going with it unsupervised) before i'd recognised he wasnt interested in the cloth available, and wanted some of the new yarn. he'd gone insane before i could sheer any animals, and weave it into cloth.--[[User:DJ Devil|DJ Devil]] 16:50, 8 May 2011 (UTC)