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v0.31 Talk:Soap

2010-12-08T19:08:11Z

Ademrudin: /* Buckets? */

I was under the impression that soap is bugged very badly right now. Specifically, with the introduction of the new "glob" unit, soap is now produced in globs, but every potential use for soap is programmed to use bars. This can be easily fixed:

Open reaction_other.txt in your save raws and/or default raws folder and change

Code: [Select]

[PRODUCT:100:1:GLOB:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:B:SOAP_MAT]

to-->

Code: [Select]

[PRODUCT:100:1:BAR:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:B:SOAP_MAT]

: With the bugfix version, soap is now in bars. --[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 16:44, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Fox the Undead, http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=52996.0

If someone wants to post this on the main page, go ahead. I'm still new here and I don't want to mess anything up.

-[[User:Theothersteve7|Theothersteve7]] 15:23, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== This command must be entered through the Manager ==

Why doesn't the Soap Maker allow you to add the task directly? Isn't this a bug missing from the Bug section of the page?

[[User:Neebat|Neebat]] 18:08, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Is Soap needed? ==

More specifically what happens if your hospital zone has no soap?
:Wounded dwarves won't be cleaned, which (probably) leads to an infection which is very bad. --[[Special:Contributions/dUMBELLS|dUMBELLS]] 05:31, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
::Actually they will be cleaned but only with water. It probably is more likely they will get an infection without soap. --[[Special:Contributions/202.124.123.107|202.124.123.107]] 03:01, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, this happened to me, where I had a legendary mason who was injured in a cave-in, and was all patched up and casted at the hospital, but went from faint to pale and then died while resting. The announcement said he died from infection. I decided to try making soap after that one.

==Soap Quality Question==

Does soap have quality modifiers (like food and statues) or not (like coke and cut gems)? That is to say, do I need to pay attention to the skill levels of my soapmakers?

== Buckets? ==
My dwarves put lye in buckets, but the soaper cancels, asking for lye bearing '''barrel'''.

Will they fill the lye in barrels when i have 5? or 10? --[[Special:Contributions/92.202.121.225|92.202.121.225]] 00:02, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:They'll do it once there's an empty (or lye-containing) barrel sitting in a Food stockpile which accepts lye, though it may take a while before a dwarf takes the initiative to actually '''do''' it. A single barrel should be able to hold up to 100 units of lye, assuming it hasn't changed since 40d. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 00:06, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::I think I've discovered a bit of a bug in regards to this. Dwarves use buckets to clean patients and provide water to wounded & prisoners... but this doesn't use up the entire bucket of water, leaving you with a bucket containing "stagnant water [x]". Lye-makers don't care that the bucket has water in it, so they go ahead and put lye into it, giving you a bucket with both water and lye. Then, said bucket sits in your ashery. Why? Dwarves who want to empty out the lye see the water and forget it, while dwarves who want to use up the water see the lye and forget that. It might've been fixed after .31.04 (what I'm playing with right now). --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 21:52, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

:::I'm running .12 and have the same problem. [[Special:Contributions/202.156.10.234|202.156.10.234]] 01:37, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

::: And again in .14 an .15 (though I hadn't figured out how the buckets were getting filled). What's worse, you can't dump the liquid any more than you can dump blood or ichor out of a barrel. --[[User:Romeofalling|Romeofalling]] 07:24, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Still an issue in .16; I'm attempting to get around this by designating a burrow containing an ash stockpile, an empty barrel stockpile, and an empty bucket stockpile, in addition to the ashery, wood furnace, and carpenter's shop. We'll see how this works. [[User:Ademrudin|Ademrudin]] 04:52, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Note: I believe this is fixed in .18 [[User:Ademrudin|Ademrudin]] 19:08, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

== Pets ==

I have several pets (cats and racoons seen so far) carrying around bars of soap in their mouths. I am not sure if it is their "cleaning" task or if it is something else. [[User:Matakuka|Matakuka]] 13:04, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

==how much soap is used==
After using some soap does it get used up?

==Still bugged?==
I'm having no problems with soap in my fortress, I've got soap, I've got dorfs and pets, but no error message spam. I am getting an unable to reach area clean self error, but I'm pretty sure that's cause I need another well or ten, since there's only two tiles that can access my current well.

As far as the lye bucket/barrel issue, I usually use magma forges, so I prefer not to burn wood anyways(not an elf or anything, just would rather use the results of my clearcutting for furniture and cages etc), I just embark with 10 to 25 lye, and request it each time from the caravan, and I've never needed to make any. I'm not even sure of all the steps actually.

I'm using the latest release.--[[User:MadGreyOne|MadGreyOne]]
: The "Urist cancels Clean Self: Area Inaccessible" ''is'' the error message spam currently associated with soap. [[User:Niveras|Niveras]] 01:27, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

: Yeah, I'm noticing now, I was confused by the talk about pets carrying soap in their mouth because the mouth was the only part needing cleaned on the dwarfs generating messages. Then I saw some bloody eyeballs etc too. I have still not seen it from pets, but I'm using cages to keep FPS up so maybe I'm just missing them. Hmmm, makes me wonder if dwarfs have an aversion to washing thier mouths out with soap. I know I wouldn't want to. Great, now we need toothpaste too. Come on guys, you're dwarves that blood in your mouth, that's for next time you get thirsty, haven't you ever gone adventuring. --[[User:MadGreyOne|MadGreyOne]]

I wasn't getting these messages but I've started getting them. It's obviously associated with specific dirty areas.--[[Special:Contributions/58.122.40.118|58.122.40.118]] 13:38, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Briess

2010-11-08T20:30:02Z

Ademrudin: /* Site Announcements */

{{archive|*[[User_talk:Briess/archive1|archive 1]]}}
==Possibly exploitable bug==
When searching for "Pit/Pond" it returns
"Warning: preg_match() [function.preg-match]: Unknown modifier 'p' in /var/www/dfwiki/includes/SearchEngine.php on line 1169"
Possibly dangerous to have PHP errors print to the browser, regarding injection/buffer overflows and whatnot.
:Not to mention the fact that the search feature is seemingly treating search terms as if they are regular expressions without escaping any of their contents (it should at least be escaping slashes)... --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 15:32, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

==Confirmation E-Mails not working?==
It seems that confirmation e-mails aren't properly sent. I registered as xtank5 and forgot my password several weeks later. I had it send me an e-mail reminder but I forgot that I had not received the confirmation e-mail. So I have not reset my password. I re-registered as XtankFive and still have not received the confirmation e-mail. I have a gmail account for e-mail if that affects anything. You mind fixing it? --[[User:XtankFive|Xtank5]] 00:10, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

==Download the wiki?==
Is there any way to make the entire wiki availible for download? I do not have internet at my house, and this wiki is an awesome resource that I check frequently when I don't understand what a certain workshop does or what labor to enable to get a dwarf to make charcoal. It would be great if there was a periodically updated link to a zip or rar that contained the either the entire wiki the most important sections, like what Wikipedia has (perhaps minus most images to save space?) You wouldn't even have to host this file yourself, if bandwidth is a problem. It would be a super useful addition, though users are still going to have to check back here for the latest info. Please consider it? --[[Special:Contributions/12.2.142.12|12.2.142.12]] 19:12, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

==Offsite Images?==

I've been trying to figure out how to display images from offsite (ie imageshack links) without uploading them to the wiki. I'm looking to move a 92-image post from the Bay12 forums to one of my userpages (rather large images at that) and if I can't use offsite linking I can't do it. According to what I could find on Wikipedia about wikitext this isn't possible, but I'm not one hundred percent sure, just doublechecking. Or if there was a way to get around this, that'd be jolly good too. --[[User:Retro|Retro]] 21:56, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

== Raw subpages ==

I've noticed that the current trend seems to be putting the various raws into subpages specific to each "entity". I feel I should point out that this might be a bad idea, because it will result in people clicking "Random page" occasionally being directed to one of said /raw pages. I know because I ran into the '''exact''' same problem on the KoL wiki - all of the various in-game items (of which there are several thousand) had been given data pages (containing templates of the form <nowiki>{{#switch:{{{1}}}|name=whatever|image=something.gif|plural=somethings|{{{2|}}}}}</nowiki> for the purposes of easy data retrieval by other templates), and said data pages had been placed as "item name/data", leading to them coming up during searches and "random page" clicks; in the end, we created a separate namespace to contain them, but that probably won't work very well here because all of the "entity" pages are already in their own namespaces. VengefulDonut was considering using his regular expression voodoo templates to automatically extract all of the relevant raws for an entity (just as is done with the mineral/metal/gem infoboxes, but just grabbing the entire blob rather than parsing out individual fields), something that would only require a single "raws" page for each version and would be much simpler to update when new releases come along and fix a whole bunch of errors in the raws. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 12:49, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:Seems it was a lot easier than I figured it'd be - all creatures from 23a now grab their raws from the appropriate creature raw pages, and once I import each of the raw pages for 40d and 0.31, they'll automagically start working there as well. A few additional changes to {{tl|gamedata}} should allow it to reliably fetch raws for other object types (specifically, MATGLOSS for old stones/metals/plants, INORGANIC for new stones/metals, and PLANT for new plants). --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 19:26, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

== Recent changes page ==

I know this is probably some sort of hack. But is there any way that we can get recent changes to be like search in the sense that we can use checkboxes to select multiple namespaces? Like all the "talk" pages? Minor deal, don't kill yourself/the wiki trying to do it, but if it's not exceedingly hard, it'd be useful. Thanks [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 16:29, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:Understood, thanks for looking into it. [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 01:44, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Game data template==

Allright, i didn't want to break anything. Just wanted to improve, because the way it currently looks is a bit cruel. Could you please tell me what other templates relate to the gamedata one.
Greetings -- [[User:Used|Used]] 09:39, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

: Ah, i have been surfing in the wiki, now i know what you mean =) Thx --[[User:Used|Used]] 15:47, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

== Quick page check request==
I was wondering if you could quickly comment on this list: DF2010:Industry Mostly if any industres are missing, and I really don't like some of the names.[[User:GiantTiger11|GiantTiger11]] 20:39, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

* Your cat got run over by a car? That's so sad. :[ --[[User:ToonyMan|ToonyMan]] 03:09, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

== 502 Bad Gateway ==

After uploading all of the raws for 0.31.03, the DF2010 pages for Dwarf, Human, Elf, and Goblin are all giving "502 Bad Gateway" almost immediately. Other creatures within creature_standard.txt (the largest of the raw files, weighing in at 185kb) are loading just fine. Back when VengefulDonut was working on the stonelookup/contains stuff, the page for Chromite was doing the same thing, specifically when it tried to look up the list of gems contained within it (said list consists only of Demantoid, and the entire raw file for gems is only 30K), though it looks like some other changes to the raw templates were able to solve that particular issue. If the size of the template is an issue, it should be reasonably easy to split it in half - it'd just be a matter of editing [[DF2010:Creature file lookup]] and redirecting some of the entities to different pages. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 23:57, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
:As a side test, I tried doing the same regex match on my Windows XP box using PHP 5.2.9, and trying to match against the DWARF raws caused it to silently crash (apparently due to a stack overflow within PCRE - adding <tt>ini_set("pcre.recursion_limit", 25000);</tt> removes the crash but also causes the match to fail) while the others seemed to be okay; however, on my FreeBSD server (amd64, running inside VMware on the aforementioned Windows XP box) running PHP 5.2.11, they all worked fine. The latest version of PHP 5.2.x is 5.2.13 (and the latest overall version is 5.3.2), while the site itself is running 5.2.10, so it's possible that something was fixed in the meanwhile, though I don't see anything in the changelog that looks to be related. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 00:44, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
::I've rewritten the regular expression used in {{tl|raw2}} and it seems to no longer choke on creature_standard.txt, though for now I'm leaving it split in 3 pieces. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 02:32, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

== [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] ==

Sometimes the sidebar has the community portal/current events stuff, and i have to go to the above place and save (w/o changes) to get it to come up. Is that a wiki problem, or my own browser problem? Thanks. [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 17:16, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

== External links ==

I posted a mantis bug link and was prompted with an external link captcha box. Seems like bay12games.com ought to be considered an internal domain by this spam-avoid feature. Is there a domain whitelist? [[User:Timbojones|Timbojones]] 16:58, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

== Magmawiki Skin ==

I can't help but notice the sidebar is nonexistant in the Magmawiki Skin - this makes it hard to navigate back to the first page, as there is no link to do so. Obviously I can just use the address bar to go back, but it's a hassle. --[[User:DrMelon|DrMelon]] 20:50, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit:
Now I feel like a fool.

== Wiki Confirmation E-mails ==

I signed up about 12 hours ago and still haven't received my confirmation e-mail. Is this because I used a free web-based yahoo email, or is there something else wrong?
I have this same issue with the official DF mantis bug tracker. --[[User:DreadKatak|DreadKatak]] 16:42, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

== I lost my password and I need help. ==

My account name is Toybasher and I forgot my password and I didnt give my email so I cant give it back.

If you dont believe me you can even check my IP address.--[[Special:Contributions/24.2.194.255|24.2.194.255]] 23:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

== Image map extension? ==

I have an ambitious idea for [[DF2010:Menu]], but it would require this extension.

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap

Interested in adding it? :) [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 19:39, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

== Admin contact? ==

June 23 2010 How the heck do we contact you? ktaipan@pris.ca – [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:208.181.180.157|208.181.180.157]]

== Templates ==

<pre>{{stonelookup/0}}</pre>
I have RegexFunctions (v1.3) and ParserFunctions (v1.1.1) but this template doesn't work correctly in the Russian wiki. It didn't return a values from raw-files for Melting point, Boiling point, Ignition point, etc.
I want to ask, what settings of wiki you changed and where? --[[User:Igoreklim|igoreklim]] 12:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:You've got the regular expression limit set too low - it's only evaluating 10 regexes per page, which is nowhere near enough. By comparison, this wiki has the limit set to 100. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 14:28, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks, man --[[User:Igoreklim|igoreklim]] 05:06, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
== Suggestion namespace ==

Hey Briess, I want to start working on a few projects helping with suggestions and using the wiki to index common ideas for the game. I thought having a suggestions namespace that can specifically be searched (and random page'd!) could be useful. What do you think? [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 21:34, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

== Another Confirmation Email Problem ==
I registered a few days ago and haven't gotten the confirmation email I requested. I requested it a total of three times (spaced apart by many hours) and I checked the spam folders. Any help is appreciated! [[User:Cjfoster|Cjfoster]] 03:49, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

== Test. ==

Test.

== Email Fixed ==

Thank you, Briess! I got my confirmation email exactly as expected. --[[User:Jwest23|Jwest23]]

== Site Announcements ==

Hey, would you mind telling me how the [[Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Announcements|site announcements]] works? I'd really like to implement this on a private wiki that I help run, and it doesn't look like you guys are using an off-the-shelf extension; I couldn't find it in your Common.js or Common.css either. Thanks; -- [[User:Ademrudin|Ademrudin]] 09:39, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:<nowiki>*facepalm*</nowiki>, I did not realize that [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]] existed at all, much less in the default MediaWiki installation. Now I've figured out how 99% of it works, including using custom namespaces to limit editing access on [[Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Announcements]]. I'm still figuring out the javascript and custom cookies to keep it hidden if it's been hidden beofre/force showing it when there's a new one... But I think I can muddle through now. Thanks! [[User:Ademrudin|Ademrudin]] 20:30, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

v0.31 Talk:Soap

2010-11-03T04:52:26Z

Ademrudin: /* Buckets? */

I was under the impression that soap is bugged very badly right now. Specifically, with the introduction of the new "glob" unit, soap is now produced in globs, but every potential use for soap is programmed to use bars. This can be easily fixed:

Open reaction_other.txt in your save raws and/or default raws folder and change

Code: [Select]

[PRODUCT:100:1:GLOB:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:B:SOAP_MAT]to

Code: [Select]

[PRODUCT:100:1:BAR:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:B:SOAP_MAT]

: With the bugfix version, soap is now in bars. --[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 16:44, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Fox the Undead, http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=52996.0

If someone wants to post this on the main page, go ahead. I'm still new here and I don't want to mess anything up.

-[[User:Theothersteve7|Theothersteve7]] 15:23, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== This command must be entered through the Manager ==

Why doesn't the Soap Maker allow you to add the task directly? Isn't this a bug missing from the Bug section of the page?

[[User:Neebat|Neebat]] 18:08, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Is Soap needed? ==

More specifically what happens if your hospital zone has no soap?
:Wounded dwarves won't be cleaned, which (probably) leads to an infection which is very bad. --[[Special:Contributions/dUMBELLS|dUMBELLS]] 05:31, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
::Actually they will be cleaned but only with water. It probably is more likely they will get an infection without soap. --[[Special:Contributions/202.124.123.107|202.124.123.107]] 03:01, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, this happened to me, where I had a legendary mason who was injured in a cave-in, and was all patched up and casted at the hospital, but went from faint to pale and then died while resting. The announcement said he died from infection. I decided to try making soap after that one.

==Soap Quality Question==

Does soap have quality modifiers (like food and statues) or not (like coke and cut gems)? That is to say, do I need to pay attention to the skill levels of my soapmakers?

== Buckets? ==
My dwarves put lye in buckets, but the soaper cancels, asking for lye bearing '''barrel'''.

Will they fill the lye in barrels when i have 5? or 10? --[[Special:Contributions/92.202.121.225|92.202.121.225]] 00:02, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:They'll do it once there's an empty (or lye-containing) barrel sitting in a Food stockpile which accepts lye, though it may take a while before a dwarf takes the initiative to actually '''do''' it. A single barrel should be able to hold up to 100 units of lye, assuming it hasn't changed since 40d. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 00:06, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::I think I've discovered a bit of a bug in regards to this. Dwarves use buckets to clean patients and provide water to wounded & prisoners... but this doesn't use up the entire bucket of water, leaving you with a bucket containing "stagnant water [x]". Lye-makers don't care that the bucket has water in it, so they go ahead and put lye into it, giving you a bucket with both water and lye. Then, said bucket sits in your ashery. Why? Dwarves who want to empty out the lye see the water and forget it, while dwarves who want to use up the water see the lye and forget that. It might've been fixed after .31.04 (what I'm playing with right now). --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 21:52, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

:::I'm running .12 and have the same problem. [[Special:Contributions/202.156.10.234|202.156.10.234]] 01:37, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

::: And again in .14 an .15 (though I hadn't figured out how the buckets were getting filled). What's worse, you can't dump the liquid any more than you can dump blood or ichor out of a barrel. --[[User:Romeofalling|Romeofalling]] 07:24, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Still an issue in .16; I'm attempting to get around this by designating a burrow containing an ash stockpile, an empty barrel stockpile, and an empty bucket stockpile, in addition to the ashery, wood furnace, and carpenter's shop. We'll see how this works. [[User:Ademrudin|Ademrudin]] 04:52, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

== Pets ==

I have several pets (cats and racoons seen so far) carrying around bars of soap in their mouths. I am not sure if it is their "cleaning" task or if it is something else. [[User:Matakuka|Matakuka]] 13:04, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

==how much soap is used==
After using some soap does it get used up?

v0.31 Talk:Soap

2010-11-02T19:28:12Z

Ademrudin: /* Buckets? */

User:Ademrudin

2010-10-27T11:37:50Z

Ademrudin: Created page with 'I'm a pretty experienced Mediawiki user, but a novice DF player. [mailto:adem.rudin@gmail.com adem.rudin@gmail.com]'

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User talk:Briess

2010-10-27T09:39:51Z

Ademrudin: