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DF2014 Talk:Monarch

2015-04-01T04:47:20Z

Afghani84:

I just had a king appear in my fort with a migrant wave that brought me from 13 dwarves to 24. I haven't discovered adamantine, have only traded a few rough gems (appraiser said they were worth less than 200 total), haven't made ANY offerings to caravans, haven't smelted a single bar worth of ore, and the only craft I made was an artifact my jeweler made while possessed. I haven't even made beds yet. Can someone explain to me how this is possible? -[[User:Elvenchakra|Elvenchakra]] ([[User talk:Elvenchakra|talk]]) 14:29, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

:It might be that your fortress is the only site left. Make a copy, retire and check in Legends what happened to the rest of your civ.--[[User:Afghani84|Afghani84]] ([[User talk:Afghani84|talk]]) 04:47, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

== Additional Notes: ==

this page should mention somewhere that the liaison comes along with the monarch. 
perhaps also aproximately how long before the monarch to arrives, though the time probably varies. in my case the monarch came in late spring.[[User:Disacorns|Disacorns]] ([[User talk:Disacorns|talk]]) 20:10, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

== Dead Civ ==
I think it should be added what happens if you embark with all other sites of your civilization being gone. Usually one of your dwarves will soon be declared king/queen and be completely obnoxious and useless from then on.--[[User:Afghani84|Afghani84]] ([[User talk:Afghani84|talk]]) 04:47, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

DF2014 Talk:Monarch

2015-04-01T04:47:09Z

Afghani84:

DF2014 Talk:Bridge

2015-03-12T07:15:43Z

Afghani84: /* Value calculation */

== Missing Information ==

From the Pressure Plate page: "(See the individual device pages for complete details of how open and close signals affect each device.)"

This page is lacking *complete* details about how signals effect bridges. I'm not sure myself so would prefer someone else add the information. -[[User:AnnanFay|AnnanFay]] ([[User talk:AnnanFay|talk]]) 01:24, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
: Most of the information seems to be on [[Lever#On.2FOff_states]]. I am uncertain if there are any differences or the best way to solve the above inconsistency. -[[User:AnnanFay|AnnanFay]] ([[User talk:AnnanFay|talk]]) 01:28, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

== Value calculation ==

It would be interesting to add something about value calculation of bridges. Does someone know what multipliers are used? In my case for example, my finely-designed and finely-built bridge had 25 displayed added (5*stone blocks) and 125 architecture. Is that simply x5 for the design then? I personally don't know, otherwise I'd add it myself.--[[User:Afghani84|Afghani84]] ([[User talk:Afghani84|talk]]) 07:11, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

DF2014 Talk:Bridge

2015-03-12T07:11:33Z

Afghani84: /* Value calculation */ new section

== Missing Information ==

From the Pressure Plate page: "(See the individual device pages for complete details of how open and close signals affect each device.)"

This page is lacking *complete* details about how signals effect bridges. I'm not sure myself so would prefer someone else add the information. -[[User:AnnanFay|AnnanFay]] ([[User talk:AnnanFay|talk]]) 01:24, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
: Most of the information seems to be on [[Lever#On.2FOff_states]]. I am uncertain if there are any differences or the best way to solve the above inconsistency. -[[User:AnnanFay|AnnanFay]] ([[User talk:AnnanFay|talk]]) 01:28, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

== Value calculation ==

It would be interesting to add something about value calculation of bridges. Does someone know what multipliers are used for e.g. finely-designed and finely-built? I personally don't know, otherwise I'd add it myself.--[[User:Afghani84|Afghani84]] ([[User talk:Afghani84|talk]]) 07:11, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

DF2014 Talk:Wall

2015-03-09T06:43:05Z

Afghani84:

I've been getting alternating values for the walls (all diorite blocks) I build: some add 14 to architecture, some only 8. Is there a reason why the value is not constant?--[[User:Afghani84|Afghani84]] ([[User talk:Afghani84|talk]]) 07:03, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

:My guess would be that the walls which add a (visible) floor on the level above gain the extra value for that floor. If the tile above already contains something then no new floor gets created, and no bonus value is added. Also, building a wall on top of another wall could conceivably remove the value for the covered floor and add value for a new uncovered floor above, resulting in a value bonus of 0. Hypothetically, it is possible that constructing a wall on an implied floor with another wall in the tile above would have a net architectural value of only 2.--[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 16:29, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

:: There are some trees with leaves hanging over parts of the wall. That might be it then. I'll build some more to see whether that's the reason. That should also mean that I get the architecture boost once I cut down the trees, right?--[[User:Afghani84|Afghani84]] ([[User talk:Afghani84|talk]]) 06:43, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

DF2014 Talk:Wall

2015-03-08T07:03:52Z

Afghani84: Created page with "I've been getting alternating values for the walls (all diorite blocks) I build: some add 14 to architecture, some only 8. Is there a reason why the value is not constant?--~~~~"

DF2014 Talk:Gem

2015-01-12T19:53:00Z

Afghani84: /* Change in gem values? */

The article currently claims that "Gem stockpiles cannot be set to permit or restrict cabochons, so dwarfs won't recognize stockpile settings when storing them. This may lead to odd behavior, such as dwarfs moving cabochons from cut gem stockpiles to rough gem stockpiles, regardless of established stockpile/workshop links." Given that cabochons are nothing more than '''cut gems with an assigned shape''', I don't see how this could be a thing - does this actually happen? --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] ([[User talk:Quietust|talk]]) 13:02, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
:{{bugl|6444}} looks like what this is referring to - I'm not exactly clear on what occurs, but it sounds like certain combinations of "Allow/Block all" end up controlling cabochons, despite them not being listed. —[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 13:56, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
::Both the note in the article and the bug description are misleading, since I'm pretty sure it only applies to '''stone''' cabochons and not '''gem''' cabochons (which would make sense, because the stone types are hidden from the stockpile menu but still get toggled with the Allow/Block All commands. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] ([[User talk:Quietust|talk]]) 15:01, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

== Change in gem values? ==

It seems that gem values changed at some point in time. In my embark (v 40.19) I found pipe opal (value 30 instead of 10), citrine (6 instead of 2) and tube agate (6 instead of 2). I just updated those ones and will do for the rest once I find them. If I'm mistaken, please respond and feel free to revert my changes. --[[User:Afghani84|Afghani84]] ([[User talk:Afghani84|talk]]) 20:19, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

: There were no changes. The numbers given are the material ''multipliers'', not the values of raw stones. A raw gem has a base value of 3☼, so the 30☼ for a raw pipe opal (mul. 10) is the correct value as derived from the table. I'll revert.--[[User:Larix|Larix]] ([[User talk:Larix|talk]]) 21:25, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

:: Thanks for clearing that up!--[[User:Afghani84|Afghani84]] ([[User talk:Afghani84|talk]]) 19:53, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Gem

2015-01-11T20:58:11Z

Afghani84:

{{Quality|Exceptional|18:34, 30 December 2014 (UTC)}}
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Small clusters of rough '''gems''' can be found almost anywhere while [[mining]]. After they have been mined by a [[miner]] and cut by a [[gem cutter]], a [[gem setter]] can use them to [[encrust]] [[furniture]], [[crafts]], and [[ammunition]]. In addition, raw [[rock crystal]]s are required to make crystal glass goods. '''Cut gems''' can also be used to create [[window]]s and are often required as a source material for [[legendary artifact]]s. Gem encrusted [[weapon]]s and [[armor]] can be found in game, but cannot be made in fortress mode. Stones, including the various types of clay, can also be cut into gems.

A large variety of cut gems can be brought by and requested from the dwarven caravan. Rough gems must be procured by your own miners, you cannot import them. Human and dwarven caravans will also bring raw [[glass]] gems.

Exactly 5% of all rough gems will be cut into a single [[Useless_crap|craft]] or '''large gem''' (with 1 craft for every 8 large gems), and the same occurs with raw glass (but with different ratios - 33% of all jobs, producing 11 crafts for every 16 large gems). Note that these will ''replace'' a cut gem and cannot be used to encrust goods. The value of such crafts can easily reach hundreds, even several thousand in the case of valuable gems and good craftsdwarfship. A dwarf with a [[strange mood]] can take a single gem and cut it into a [[legendary artifact]] known as a "perfect gem" - this is simply a special name for an artifact large gem.

If you have any bags of sand, you can also manufacture [[Glass|raw glass]], which is the same as a lower-value, uncut gem.

[[Gizzard stone]]s are found as a by-product when butchering some animals, and can be used like cut gems. Only few animal species give gizzard stones, but each member of such a species butchered will yield one, which can lead to a decent supply when you manage to set up an ostrich farm.

== Value ==
Gems have base [[value]] of 3 in rough form, which is multiplied by the appropriate value modifier from the table below. They gain value after they are cut in a [[jeweler's workshop]]. Cut gems have a base value of 5. Items can be decorated (encrusted) with cut gems; all such decorations have a value of 10 times the gem type's value multiplier. See [[Gem cutting]] and [[Gem setting]]. Large gems have a base value of 10, and can also have a [[quality]] modifier which increases value.

== Varieties ==
Gems come in many varieties, with their own color and value multipliers:
{{Gem table head}}

{{Gem table row|rarity=[[#Glass|Synthetic]]|name=[[green glass]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼♦|2:0}}2:0|fwhere=[[Glass furnace]]|fhow=Manufactured}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=[[#Glass|Synthetic]]|name=[[clear glass]]|value=5|color={{Raw Tile|☼♦|3:0}}3:0|fwhere=[[Glass furnace]]|fhow=Manufactured}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=[[#Glass|Synthetic]]|name=[[crystal glass]]|value=10|color={{Raw Tile|☼♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=[[Glass furnace]]|fhow=Manufactured}}

{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[amber opal]]|value=10|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:0}}6:0|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[aventurine]]|value=3|color={{Raw Tile|☼|2:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|2:0}}2:0|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[banded agate]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:0}}4:0|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[bloodstone]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:0}}4:0|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[blue jade]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|1:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|1:1}}1:1|fwhere=[[Alluvial]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[bone opal]]|value=10|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:0}}7:0|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[brown jasper]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:0}}6:0|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[carnelian]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:0}}4:0|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[cherry opal]]|value=10|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:1}}4:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[chrysocolla]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|3:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|3:1}}3:1|fwhere=[[Malachite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[chrysoprase]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|2:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|2:1}}2:1|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[citrine]]|value=6|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:1}}6:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[clear tourmaline]]|value=10|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:0}}7:0|fwhere=[[Metamorphic]], [[Sedimentary]], [[Granite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[dendritic agate]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:0}}7:0|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[fire agate]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:0}}6:0|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[fortification agate]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[gold opal]]|value=10|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:1}}6:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[gray chalcedony]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:0}}7:0|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[jasper opal]]|value=10|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[lace agate]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|1:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|1:1}}1:1|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[lapis lazuli]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|1:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|1:1}}1:1|fwhere=[[Igneous intrusive]], [[Marble]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[lavender jade]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|5:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|5:0}}5:0|fwhere=[[Alluvial]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[milk opal]]|value=10|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[milk quartz]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[moonstone]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=[[Metamorphic]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[morion]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|0:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|0:1}}0:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[moss agate]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|2:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|2:0}}2:0|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[moss opal]]|value=10|color={{Raw Tile|☼|2:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|2:0}}2:0|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[onyx opal]]|value=10|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[onyx]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|0:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|0:1}}0:1|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[picture jasper]]|value=3|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:0}}6:0|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[pineapple opal]]|value=10|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[pink jade]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|5:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|5:1}}5:1|fwhere=[[Alluvial]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[pipe opal]]|value=30|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[plume agate]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:0}}6:0|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[prase opal]]|value=10|color={{Raw Tile|☼|2:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|2:0}}2:0|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[prase]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|2:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|2:0}}2:0|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[pyrite]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:1}}6:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[resin opal]]|value=10|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:1}}6:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[rock crystal]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[rose quartz]]|value=3|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:1}}4:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[sardonyx]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:0}}4:0|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[sard]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:0}}4:0|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[schorl]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|0:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|0:1}}0:1|fwhere=[[Metamorphic]], [[Sedimentary]], [[Granite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[shell opal]]|value=10|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:0}}7:0|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[smoky quartz]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:0}}6:0|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[sunstone]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:1}}6:1|fwhere=[[Basalt]], [[Gneiss]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[tiger iron]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:1}}6:1|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[tigereye]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:1}}6:1|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[tube agate]]|value=6|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:0}}6:0|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[turquoise]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|3:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|3:1}}3:1|fwhere=[[Igneous extrusive]], [[Kaolinite]], [[Granite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[variscite]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|2:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|2:0}}2:0|fwhere=[[Bauxite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[wax opal]]|value=10|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:0}}6:0|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[white chalcedony]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[white jade]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=[[Alluvial]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[wood opal]]|value=10|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:0}}6:0|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Ornamental|name=[[yellow jasper]]|value=2|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:1}}6:1|fwhere=[[Sedimentary]]|fhow=Small clusters}}

{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[alexandrite]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|5:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|5:1}}5:1|fwhere=[[Granite]], [[Schist]], [[Marble]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[almandine]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:0}}4:0|fwhere=[[Metamorphic]], [[Diorite]], [[Gabbro]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[amethyst]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|5:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|5:1}}5:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[aquamarine]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|3:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|3:1}}3:1|fwhere=[[Granite]], [[Schist]], [[Marble]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[bandfire opal]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[black opal]]|value=30|color={{Raw Tile|☼|0:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|0:1}}0:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[black pyrope]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|0:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|0:1}}0:1|fwhere=[[Metamorphic]], [[Kimberlite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[black zircon]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|0:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|0:1}}0:1|fwhere=All [[igneous]], [[Metamorphic]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[blue garnet]]|value=30|color={{Raw Tile|☼|1:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|1:0}}1:0|fwhere=[[Metamorphic]], [[Granite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[brown zircon]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:0}}6:0|fwhere=All [[igneous]], [[Metamorphic]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[cat's eye]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=[[Granite]], [[Schist]], [[Marble]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[chrysoberyl]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|2:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|2:1}}2:1|fwhere=[[Granite]], [[Schist]], [[Marble]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[cinnamon grossular]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:0}}6:0|fwhere=[[Marble]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[claro opal]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|1:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|1:1}}1:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[clear garnet]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:0}}7:0|fwhere=[[Metamorphic]], [[Granite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[clear zircon]]|value=25|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=All [[igneous]], [[Metamorphic]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[crystal opal]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[demantoid]]|value=30|color={{Raw Tile|☼|2:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|2:0}}2:0|fwhere=[[Chromite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[fire opal]]|value=15|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:1}}4:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[golden beryl]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:1}}6:1|fwhere=[[Granite]], [[Schist]], [[Marble]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[goshenite]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=[[Granite]], [[Schist]], [[Marble]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[green jade]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|2:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|2:1}}2:1|fwhere=[[Alluvial]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[green tourmaline]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|2:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|2:0}}2:0|fwhere=[[Metamorphic]], [[Sedimentary]], [[Granite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[green zircon]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|2:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|2:0}}2:0|fwhere=All [[igneous]], [[Metamorphic]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[harlequin opal]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[heliodor]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|2:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|2:1}}2:1|fwhere=[[Granite]], [[Schist]], [[Marble]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[honey yellow beryl]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:0}}6:0|fwhere=[[Granite]], [[Schist]], [[Marble]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[indigo tourmaline]]|value=25|color={{Raw Tile|☼|1:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|1:0}}1:0|fwhere=[[Metamorphic]], [[Sedimentary]], [[Granite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[jelly opal]]|value=15|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:0}}6:0|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[kunzite]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|5:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|5:1}}5:1|fwhere=[[Granite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[levin opal]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:1}}6:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[light yellow diamond]]|value=30|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=[[Kimberlite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[melanite]]|value=15|color={{Raw Tile|☼|0:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|0:1}}0:1|fwhere=[[Marble]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[morganite]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|5:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|5:1}}5:1|fwhere=[[Granite]], [[Schist]], [[Marble]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[peridot]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|2:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|2:1}}2:1|fwhere=[[Gabbro]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[pinfire opal]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[pink garnet]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|5:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|5:1}}5:1|fwhere=[[Metamorphic]], [[Granite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[pink tourmaline]]|value=15|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:1}}4:1|fwhere=[[Metamorphic]], [[Sedimentary]], [[Granite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[precious fire opal]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:1}}4:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[purple spinel]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|5:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|5:0}}5:0|fwhere=[[Metamorphic]], [[Diorite]], [[Gabbro]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[red beryl]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:1}}4:1|fwhere=[[Granite]], [[Schist]], [[Marble]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[red flash opal]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:1}}4:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[red grossular]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:0}}4:0|fwhere=[[Marble]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[red pyrope]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:0}}4:0|fwhere=[[Metamorphic]], [[Kimberlite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[red spinel]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:0}}4:0|fwhere=[[Metamorphic]], [[Diorite]], [[Gabbro]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[red tourmaline]]|value=15|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:0}}4:0|fwhere=[[Metamorphic]], [[Sedimentary]], [[Granite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[red zircon]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:0}}4:0|fwhere=All [[igneous]], [[Metamorphic]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[rhodolite]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|5:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|5:0}}5:0|fwhere=[[Metamorphic]], [[Kimberlite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[rubicelle]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:1}}6:1|fwhere=[[Metamorphic]], [[Diorite]], [[Gabbro]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[tanzanite]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|5:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|5:1}}5:1|fwhere=[[Gabbro]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[topazolite]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:1}}6:1|fwhere=[[Marble]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[topaz]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:1}}6:1|fwhere=[[Granite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[tsavorite]]|value=30|color={{Raw Tile|☼|2:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|2:0}}2:0|fwhere=[[Marble]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[violet spessartine]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|5:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|5:1}}5:1|fwhere=[[Metamorphic]], [[Granite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[white opal]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=All [[stone]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[yellow grossular]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:1}}6:1|fwhere=[[Marble]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[yellow spessartine]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:1}}6:1|fwhere=[[Metamorphic]], [[Granite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Semi-Precious|name=[[yellow zircon]]|value=20|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:1}}6:1|fwhere=All [[igneous]], [[Metamorphic]]|fhow=Small clusters}}

{{Gem table row|rarity=Precious|name=[[emerald]]|value=40|color={{Raw Tile|☼|2:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|2:0}}2:0|fwhere=[[Granite]], [[Schist]], [[Marble]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Precious|name=[[faint yellow diamond]]|value=40|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:0}}6:0|fwhere=[[Kimberlite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Precious|name=[[ruby]]|value=40|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:0}}4:0|fwhere=[[Bauxite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Precious|name=[[sapphire]]|value=40|color={{Raw Tile|☼|1:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|1:0}}1:0|fwhere=[[Bauxite]]|fhow=Small clusters}}

{{Gem table row|rarity=Rare|name=[[black diamond]]|value=60|color={{Raw Tile|☼|0:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|0:1}}0:1|fwhere=[[Faint yellow diamond]]|fhow=Single gem}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Rare|name=[[blue diamond]]|value=60|color={{Raw Tile|☼|1:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|1:0}}1:0|fwhere=[[Faint yellow diamond]]|fhow=Single gem}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Rare|name=[[clear diamond]]|value=60|color={{Raw Tile|☼|7:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|7:1}}7:1|fwhere=[[Faint yellow diamond]]|fhow=Single gem}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Rare|name=[[green diamond]]|value=60|color={{Raw Tile|☼|2:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|2:0}}2:0|fwhere=[[Faint yellow diamond]]|fhow=Single gem}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Rare|name=[[red diamond]]|value=60|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:0}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:0}}4:0|fwhere=[[Faint yellow diamond]]|fhow=Single gem}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Rare|name=[[star ruby]]|value=60|color={{Raw Tile|☼|4:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|4:1}}4:1|fwhere=[[Ruby]]|fhow=Single gem}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Rare|name=[[star sapphire]]|value=60|color={{Raw Tile|☼|1:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|1:1}}1:1|fwhere=[[Sapphire]]|fhow=Single gem}}
{{Gem table row|rarity=Rare|name=[[yellow diamond]]|value=60|color={{Raw Tile|☼|6:7:1}}{{Raw Tile|♦|6:1}}6:1|fwhere=[[Faint yellow diamond]]|fhow=Single gem}}

|}
See [https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Auy0R4dx5JF6dEdwQ3B5WkdCeUp0SjZYSl9vc3lteFE&hl=en_US#gid=0 here] or [https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApoOG6GC8_0RdHR5QkNDZlYwa1RYeUpCSzJSNUZIRkE&hl=en_US here] for a sortable, print-friendly spreadsheet with all gems and their values.

Unlike other gems, diamonds can [[Fire|ignite]] if they come into contact with [[magma]].

== Gem Cuts ==

Finished gems have a particular cut. These cuts do not affect the gem's value. A gem can have multiple cuts, such as a "square brilliant" cut or "tapered baguette" cut. Some gem cuts are also known as "cabochons." Cabochons have a basic "shape" cut but not any more complicated cut. Gizzard stones do not have cuts.

List of cuts:
* baguette
* brilliant
* briolette
* cushion
* emerald
* marquise
* octagon
* oval
* pear
* point
* radiant
* rectangular
* round
* single
* square
* table
* tapered
* trillion

== Rare Gems ==
Faint yellow diamonds only appear in [[kimberlite]] (which itself only appears in [[gabbro]] layers) and sapphires and rubies only appear in [[bauxite]] (which occurs in any sedimentary layers). Colored diamonds only occur in pre-existing clusters of faint yellow diamonds. Star sapphires and rubies only occur within clusters of their peers.

== [[Glass]] ==
Raw glass is treated as an uncut gem. There are three subtypes of raw glass (and, once cut, of cut glass gems):

Gems

{| style="border-spacing: 0"
|-
! Gem name
! Value
! Color
! Requires
|-
|green glass||2×||{{Raw Tile|☼♦|2:0}}||[[bag]] full of [[sand]]
|-
|clear glass||5×||{{Raw Tile|☼♦|3:0}}||[[bag]] full of [[sand]] + [[pearlash]]
|-
|crystal glass||10×||{{Raw Tile|☼♦|7:1}}||rough [[rock crystal]] + [[pearlash]]
|}

Making raw glass requires a dwarf with the [[glassmaking]] [[labor]] designated, and, just like working [[metal]], it also requires [[fuel]] (either [[coke]] or [[charcoal]]) at a normal glass furnace, or [[magma]] at a magma [[glass furnace]]. Like all gems, raw glass has no [[quality]] modifiers.

Raw gems are only one of the many things your [[glassmaker]]s can make from glass. See [[glass]] and [[glass industry]] for more information.

{{Category|Materials}}

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Just FYI, dwarves can now polish non-gemstone rocks into cabochons in the jewelers workshop. Even slate!--[[User:Auric|Auric]] 18:26, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

== Gem cuts ==

If I'm reading it correctly, raw/objects/entity_default.txt defines what cuts of gem a civ can produce:

{| class="wikitable"
!  ||Dwarf||Human||Goblin||Elf / Kobold / Animal men
|-
!STONE_SHAPE:
|
*OVAL_CABOCHON
*ROUND_CABOCHON
*CUSHION_CABOCHON
*RECTANGULAR_CABOCHON
|
*OVAL_CABOCHON
*ROUND_CABOCHON
*CUSHION_CABOCHON
*RECTANGULAR_CABOCHON
|
*RECTANGULAR_CABOCHON
|
*OVAL_CABOCHON
|-
!GEM_SHAPE:
|
*OVAL_CABOCHON
*ROUND_CABOCHON
*CUSHION_CABOCHON
*RECTANGULAR_CABOCHON
----
*POINT_CUT_GEM
*TABLE_CUT_GEM
*SINGLE_CUT_GEM
*ROSE_CUT_GEM
*BRIOLETTE_CUT_GEM
*EMERALD_CUT_GEM
*MARQUISE_CUT_GEM
*OVAL_CUT_GEM
*PEAR_CUT_GEM
*SQUARE_BRILLIANT_CUT_GEM
*RADIANT_CUT_GEM
*TRILLION_CUT_GEM
*ROUND_BRILLIANT_CUT_GEM
*BAGUETTE_CUT_GEM
*TAPERED_BAGUETTE_CUT_GEM
*CUSHION_CUT_GEM
*OCTAGON_CUT_GEM
*SQUARE_CUT_GEM
|
*OVAL_CABOCHON
*ROUND_CABOCHON
*CUSHION_CABOCHON
*RECTANGULAR_CABOCHON
----
*POINT_CUT_GEM
*TABLE_CUT_GEM
*SINGLE_CUT_GEM
*ROSE_CUT_GEM
*BRIOLETTE_CUT_GEM
|
*RECTANGULAR_CABOCHON
----
*POINT_CUT_GEM
|
*OVAL_CABOCHON
----
|}
Based on this, is the article incorrect in its assessment of how cuts are decided? It would seem "brilliant" is never used alone, and "rose" isn't on our list. I would like someone to check my findings before I edit the article, since I'm not that experienced with looking into the raws. Thanks. --[[User:Timrem|timrem]] 01:09, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

== Moving large gems ==

Large gems can be used as bait in [[animal trap]]s, upon destruction of the animal trap, this gems is dropped next to where the animal trap was. So, this is a method for moving gems, though not a very reliable one. Also 'large gems' can be chosen as one of the types of 'finished goods' for a stockpile. Once a large gem is encrusted with other items, dwarves will move it to such a stockpile.

== Rarity of gems ==

I've done some tests with the '''prospect''' tool of DFHack on four different locations. Certain gems, like the grossulars and [[Goshenite]], which seem to spawn on marble, are exceedingly rare. Not found a single grossular, I only found Goshenite on 2 maps, one having 3 gems and the other having 133, being at most the third least abundant gem in the map.

I remember there was some sort of bug where a sort of mineral wouldn't spawn due to the presence of another (can't remember but I believe it's related with silver or tin), maybe this is related.

Also, I remember that gems increase the scarser mineral frequency is, although again I don't have the source for this, although it would make sense as most gems don't spawn within mineral clusters.

I could post the prospects (as I've piped them to text) but the map was custom-made, hence somewhat unreliable.--[[User:Doktoro Reichard|Doktoro Reichard]] ([[User talk:Doktoro Reichard|talk]]) 16:36, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

I've picked up the [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=79018.msg2063804#msg2063804 good work] made by Shandra, treated it according to gems, and found some results. However, those results are... ugly, to say the least. I'll try to supply the Excel spreadsheet, as graphing the results is really really ugly, but I can safely assume the following:

# Biomes affect the gem distribution. As I didn't find some varieties of [[Diamond|Diamonds]] or Agate in any of the samples, stands to reason that even by messing with mineral frequency one can't make gems appear where they don't belong (e.g. agates can only appear in sedimentary layers).
# [[Advanced_world_generation#Mineral_Scarcity|Mineral Scarcity]] affects the distribution in a strange way. Some gems like [[Onyx]] will only appear, and at low quantities, at the lowest setting (hence the biggest frequency), although this might be related to the former point. Other gems, such as [[Bandfire opal]] seem to have some sort of tiers, that actually increase with decreasing mineral frequency. And there are others that peak at intermediate ranges.

The dataset, however, is quite noisy, and fails because it's a single location, and as such can not encompass all different types of layers. If one were to take the maximum value of the gems in all the sets, it would come out something like the following:

{{Spoil_small|
AMETHYST 84773
ALMANDINE 76398
BROWN ZIRCON 73466
SPINEL_PURPLE 73371
RUBICELLE 73100
BLACK ZIRCON 73020
PINEAPPLE OPAL 72908
CHERRY OPAL 72752
OPAL_WHITE 72589
WAX OPAL 72493
OPAL_LEVIN 72478
OPAL_PINFIRE 72414
PIPE OPAL 72394
MILK QUARTZ 70570
SPINEL_RED 64513
MOSS OPAL 63742
QUARTZ_ROSE 49308
YELLOW ZIRCON 48020
PRASE 44369
ONYX OPAL 43648
RED ZIRCON 41437
SMOKY QUARTZ 38893
RESIN OPAL 37697
OPAL_CRYSTAL 32563
BONE OPAL 29050
GREEN ZIRCON 28195
LAPIS LAZULI 25090
MILK OPAL 24293
CRYSTAL_ROCK 19910
TANZANITE 18570
YELLOW SPESSARTINE 18486
CITRINE 18246
CLEAR ZIRCON 18073
JELLY OPAL 17982
OPAL_CLARO 17200
MORION 16048
JASPER OPAL 14722
RED TOURMALINE 14634
FIRE OPAL 14582
BLUE GARNET 14539
PINK TOURMALINE 14533
VIOLET SPESSARTINE 14506
SHELL OPAL 14297
OPAL_REDFLASH 14207
OPAL_HARLEQUIN 13818
HELIODOR 13092
BLACK PYROPE 12944
OPAL_PFIRE 12750
PRASE OPAL 12721
GOLD OPAL 12547
WOOD OPAL 12456
MORGANITE 12441
PYRITE 12369
AMBER OPAL 12028
OPAL_BLACK 12003
RED BERYL 11669
RHODOLITE 11637
CHRYSOBERYL 11560
CINNAMON GROSSULAR 11466
GREEN TOURMALINE 10247
INDIGO TOURMALINE 10225
OPAL_BANDFIRE 10154
MOONSTONE 10004
TOPAZ 9281
PERIDOT 9206
GOSHENITE 8956
SCHORL 8811
PINK GARNET 8719
CLEAR GARNET 8695
CLEAR TOURMALINE 8044
TURQUOISE 7716
EMERALD 7384
TSAVORITE 7160
ALEXANDRITE 6793
GOLDEN BERYL 6221
RED PYROPE 6148
CAT'S EYE 5985
HONEY YELLOW BERYL 5232
AQUAMARINE 3918
KUNZITE 3386
YELLOW GROSSULAR 2530
FORTIFICATION AGATE 2332
TIGEREYE 2285
BANDED AGATE 2276
GRAY CHALCEDONY 2273
CHRYSOPRASE 2266
CHRYSOCOLLA 2235
BLOODSTONE 2205
BLUE JADE 1852
WHITE CHALCEDONY 1653
SARD 1598
MELANITE 1566
RED GROSSULAR 1455
SUNSTONE 1394
TOPAZOLITE 1359
SARDONYX 1110
DIAMOND_FY 975
DIAMOND_LY 813
CARNELIAN 578
AVENTURINE 432
PINK JADE 389
BROWN JASPER 264
PICTURE JASPER 257
ONYX 254
WHITE JADE 233
DEMANTOID 196
GREEN JADE 142
YELLOW JASPER 121
LAVENDER JADE 101
RUBY 92
TIGER IRON 79
LACE AGATE 70
SAPPHIRE 17
PLUME AGATE 15
DENDRITIC AGATE 0
DIAMOND_BLACK 0
DIAMOND_BLUE 0
DIAMOND_CLEAR 0
DIAMOND_GREEN 0
DIAMOND_RED 0
DIAMOND_YELLOW 0
FIRE AGATE 0
MOSS AGATE 0
RUBY_STAR 0
SAPPHIRE_STAR 0
TUBE AGATE 0
VARISCITE 0
|Rarity of gems}}

In regards to what lead me here, [[Cinnamon grossular|Cinnamon grossulars]] happen to be infrequent (and not as rare as I thought), as it sits in the middle of the table, but as I said earlier, I did search some sites and found no evidence of it's existence. Also, these grossulars seem to appear ''only'' on Mineral Scarcity ranges nearing 25000 (e.g. Rare to Very Rare). This would benefit from a more extensive search, but for now this is what exists so far.--[[User:Doktoro Reichard|Doktoro Reichard]] ([[User talk:Doktoro Reichard|talk]]) 16:07, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Finally got around to add the .xls in a Dropbox. The file is [https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27314922/Dwarf%20Fortress/Gems2.xls here]. Besides the data presented above, there is data on all distributions by scarcity. It's very very ugly though.--[[User:Doktoro Reichard|Doktoro Reichard]] ([[User talk:Doktoro Reichard|talk]]) 14:55, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

v0.34 Talk:Gem

2015-01-11T20:55:33Z

Afghani84: /* Change in gem values? */

v0.34 Talk:Gem

2015-01-11T20:19:29Z

Afghani84: /* Change in gem values? */ new section

DF2014 Talk:Tree

2015-01-04T15:01:52Z

Afghani84: /* Time needed to harvest trees */ new section

So, before anyone works on the tree page here, what should we do? Do we need gifs of new trees since I could make some but I dont feel like writing an article. -- I suggest setting up the tree part as a cross section, showing what the roots are and such. Also, we could change the current tree icon(spades or clubs) to the 1/4 signs since its the leaf colours that matter – [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:209.197.142.167|209.197.142.167]] 02:56, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
:I suggest making a new version of the table template that shows all tiles for each species, though I'm not sure what would be the best way to organize it.--[[User:Amena Ralikema|Amena Ralikema]] ([[User talk:Amena Ralikema|talk]]) 13:12, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

What the current way of organising it, with the root trunk, leavs is fairly good. I approve of it. also praise Amena Ralikema! The tree page is looking quite better- oddstranger

== Burning trees ==
Burning trees collapse, and forest fires cause immense pause+recenter spam of trees collapsing.
Perhaps something to mention(and warn for forest fires, aside from the obvious dangers). [[Special:Contributions/83.83.21.167|83.83.21.167]] 15:18, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

== Fruit ==
How do you get the fruits the new trees drop? – [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:66.177.96.41|66.177.96.41]] 14:52, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

In adventurer mode i believe you can eat directly from the tree with e or use g to pick up the fruit form the tree. I dont think it's in fortress mode since he mentioned hes still working on harvesting.-stranger – [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:72.38.18.124|72.38.18.124]] 13:09, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

== Cutting Trees in Fortress Mode ==

I'd like to put this bit of page for discussing and confirming... well, what's in the title.

Some things I've noticed so far:

* when cutting a tree at a trunk tile '''above''' the ground level ( = the lowest z-level the tree occupies), it's possible to produce some sort of a cave-in; presumably, the woodcutter chops the trunk that s/he's standing on.
** Can anyone replicate this behavior?
** Has anyone received any quasi-cave-ins by cutting trees at ground level? --[[User:StrikaAmaru|StrikaAmaru]] 15:25, 12 July 2014‎ (UTC)
:What do you mean by "cave in"? A message about something collapsing? I remember seeing something like that on the bug tracker. --[[User:Amena Ralikema|Amena Ralikema]] ([[User talk:Amena Ralikema|talk]]) 15:31, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
:: Yes, exactly like a cave-in; my woodcutter was happily chopping a branch, then I get the message, the game re-centers, and the dorf is on the ground, stunned but uninjured. Actually, when considering that cutting a branch cuts down the whole tree, a cave-in is exactly what happened: she was sitting on the tree, then the tree stopped existing. Cue one dropping dwarf. I'm inclined to think this is normal behavior, but still something that we need to take into account. BTW: the bug about cave-ins is probably about the completely unrelated, and definitely buggy, random "Something has collapsed on the surface!" messages that keep popping up with no rhyme or reason. --[[User:StrikaAmaru|StrikaAmaru]] 17:15, 13 July 2014‎ (UTC)

* Trees grow every year; a freshly-matured tree only extends 2 z-levels, and produces comparatively little wood (7 in my case). Still has fruit, even though it was a sapling when flowering season passed.--[[User:StrikaAmaru|StrikaAmaru]] 15:25, 12 July 2014‎ (UTC)
:As for the fruiting, I don't think pollination is implemented yet. :) Fruit just grows at a set time.--[[User:Amena Ralikema|Amena Ralikema]] ([[User talk:Amena Ralikema|talk]]) 15:31, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
::More interested in verifying tree growth across multiple years; the fruit thing was a minor quirk, seeing how fruits are useless now :( --[[User:StrikaAmaru|StrikaAmaru]] 17:20, 13 July 2014‎ (UTC)

== I need help reading the raws ==

I have a problem reading the raws: the new table format requires tiles for the different growths, but the characters I've extracted from the raws don't match what's displayed in the game, especially for flowers/growths. I think there may be different tiles for growths if they are on or off the tree. Any idea how to interpret the tags?--[[User:Amena Ralikema|Amena Ralikema]] ([[User talk:Amena Ralikema|talk]]) 08:21, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

== Explosive leaves and fruit ==

I've lost several dwarves in a freak Oak leaf shedding accident; some sort of bug makes tree-leaves and fruit about the same weight as a constructed wall-- with the same amount of impact force that it could cause from falling such a height.

An oak dispersed its leaves normally after autumn rolled around, but little did my passing stone hauler know what he was about to become.

The force of the falling oak-leaves shattered the dwarf's skull and sent his fingers, arms, a leg, and teeth flying in several directions. Each possessed the force of some carnal meteor that burrowed through the mess of wood and bone of the surrounding environment-- a tooth had even gone so far as to destroy a hovering, unwary Kea many z-levels above the intial impact. The dwarf's left arm struck and killed my only carpenter, going so far as to pulp both his head and upper-body-- his already dead corpse being sent off my drawbridge's unsealed walls and into the abyss. The other arm flew several feet away and into the canopy of another Oak tree as though an omen of things to come. The poor stone-pusher's fingers, somehow detached from the arms they once occupied by the velocity of the impact, simply fell to the ground beneath the squashed dwarf. None could find his missing left-leg; some believed it ended up somewhere inside the unfortunate dwarf's remaining body, others believe it transcended space and time with the sheer amount of speed it acquired from the initial earth-shattering oak leaf-fall.

It's not limited to fruit-baring trees you see. – [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:184.166.69.80|184.166.69.80]]

== Forrests on world map ==
The old tree tiles are still used for world map forests containing that particular tree, so that information needs to be displayed somewhere. I don't know how to modify the table to do that. [[User:King Mir|King Mir]] ([[User talk:King Mir|talk]]) 20:01, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
:Already listed on [[map legend]]. —[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 20:13, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
::It's not really correct, or complete. Map forrests use the tile of the tree they contain, plus 3 special tiles. See here: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=137096.msg5481446#msg5481446. Ergo you need to list each tree's tile somewhere. I suppose that information could be put on that page instead of here. [[User:King Mir|King Mir]] ([[User talk:King Mir|talk]]) 20:32, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

== Destructive tree growth ==

Tree growth can deconstruct buildings. I had a small "indoor/light" area that I had bridged over for indoorish farming of above-ground crops, and refuse. A few tiles weren't buildings/stockpiles, and one ended up growing a sapling. Subsequently, I witnessed a spectacular explosion when the tree burst through the ceiling, deconstructing it and sending blocks and logs flying. I didn't get any alert or auto-pause of the sort you get when trees spontaneously collapse on the surface. Probably a fact worth noting in the page. This might also be related to why there are spontaneous collapses of trees—trees growing across portions of each other, and causing tree deconstruction? --[[User:Jaygengelbach|Jaygengelbach]] ([[User talk:Jaygengelbach|talk]]) 05:10, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

:Trees bursting through ceilings are a bug that was supposedly fixed. If it's still happening, it's not intended. Trees deconstructing things might not be. [[User:King Mir|King Mir]] ([[User talk:King Mir|talk]]) 05:25, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

== Time needed to harvest trees ==

Hi guys,
how long does it take for a sapling to grow into a full-grown tree that can be chopped down? I cannot find this information in the thread and think it would be interesting to add it!--[[User:Afghani84|Afghani84]] ([[User talk:Afghani84|talk]]) 15:01, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Masterwork:Steppe aurochs

2014-02-27T05:34:05Z

Afghani84: Added list of butchered items

{{av}}

{{Creaturelookup/0
|bone=26
|skin=22
|meat=33
|fat=12
|skull=1
|horn=2
|hoof=4
|wool=14
|soul=1
|intestines=1
|heart=1
|stomach=1

|contrib=no
}}

{{creaturedesc}}

{{gamedata}}
{{Creatures}}

Template talk:Creaturelookup/0

2014-02-05T09:40:42Z

Afghani84: /* Masterwork mod */ new section

==Alternative arguments==
Hey, Loci and other editors. I noticed that the game uses <code>intestines</code> while this template uses <code>intestine</code>. Also, <code>gizzard</code> in DF is called <code>gizzard_stone</code> in this template. Based on [[User:Lethosor/Wiki sandbox/Default args|this page]], it looks like alternative but identical arguments can be implemented like this:
<pre>{{{arg1 | {{{arg2|default}}} }}}</pre> I would go in and edit it, but I'm not as experienced with this template and I'd probably miss something or break the template. Also, editing it has a nasty tendency to clear [[:Category:DF2012:Flying|categories like this]], so I'm reluctant to make a change like this myself. Do you think we should allow alternative arguments like this or just keep the template the way it is? --[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User_talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 22:09, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

:That certainly seems reasonable, and it would help make the template less "fiddly" when people try to add butchering returns. Unless anybody objects feel free to add this in, or I can make this change the next time I modify the template. I would like to note, however, that "gizzard" and "gizzard_stone" are two different things: a [[DF2012:gizzard stone|gizzard stone]] is a piece of rock stored in a [[gizzard]] (organ) for grinding food or ballast. Not all creatures with gizzards will have gizzard stones, so those two should be kept separate. --[[User:Loci|Loci]] 19:59, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

== Category suggestions ==

These are a few ideas I had for categorizing creatures, which could probably be implemented in this template (but I'm not exactly sure how). I'll leave them here in case someone else has better ideas on how to implement them.
I'm putting these in their own section to make it easier to add new ones. --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 02:14, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

:The problem I have with adding categories that depend on /raw information is that they will turn out exactly like [[:Category:DF2012:Flying]]; that is, mostly empty and non-functional. I specifically did not create categories for [http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=Template:Attrib_proc&diff=prev&oldid=181612 my recent additions] to creature attributes because I believe non-functional categories reflect poorly on the wiki. That being said, creating an administrative category for [[:Category:DF2012:Incomplete butchering returns|incomplete butchering returns]] shouldn't cause any problems. A "quick-link" to creature variations is an interesting idea, but significantly more difficult to implement. I will try to think of an acceptable way to handle variation information. --[[User:Loci|Loci]] 20:32, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

:: About the quick-links for variations - I thought of searching for <code>[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION]</code>, but I'm not even sure if it would be visible to a template - see the aardvark man raws, for example. If it's possible, a creature with that tag would provide an easy reference to the base creature (but it wouldn't be so easy to look up creatures that inherit from the base creature). --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 21:29, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

:: I tried making a rudimentary page at [[:Template:Creature/variation links]]. My idea was to extract the name of the base creature (since no creature variations that I know of change base names), using [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Remove_first_word this template] as an example, but it seems that this wiki doesn't support <code>#invoke</code> (or several other useful parser functions). I intended to have the template parse out the creature name, then include a secondary template which would simply display the links. Do you happen to know of any alternatives for string processing like this? --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 22:57, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

::I was apparently mistaken about butchering returns. The Creaturelookup template uses logic to disable butchering returns for [[DF2012:Learns|intelligent]] creatures, which is determined by processing the /raw values. That means the [[:Category:DF2012:Incomplete butchering returns|incomplete butchering returns category]] automatically includes those creatures which should have been excluded as non-butcherable. Adding "contrib=no" to these creatures will still remove them from the category, but that's a lot of extra work for no appreciable gain. --[[User:Loci|Loci]] 20:39, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

:::My original thought was that, because animalmen inherit the NOT_BUTCHERABLE tag from their base creature, it wouldn't show up when searched for, but [[nightwing]], a normal creature, appears in the category. Another interesting observation: the raws on [[aardvark man]] are different than the ones on [[DF2012:Aardvark man/raw]] - the latter ''includes'' the inherited tags. I honestly don't know why, since the gamedata template doesn't seem to call #df_raw anywhere. In any case, it turns out creature'''info''' is what places contrib=yes pages into a category. This is even more confusing, since it looks like the category should only be included when the contribution message appears, which is not the case with [[aardvark man]]. --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 21:20, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
:::: On second glance, it also turns out that you added that category, so I guess you would know about it. --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 21:29, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
:::: I managed to track down [[:Template:Variation raw]], which uses <code>no_decode</code> to prevent expanding creature variations. I guess that's a relief, since it means both the un-expanded and expanded raws are accessible. --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 21:36, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

::::Right. When '''you''' view [[aardvark man]] you don't see the "contrib" message because the Creaturelookup template sets "death=nobutcher" based on certain values in the /raws, then the CreatureInfo template suppresses the "contrib" message because "death=nobutcher". When '''the automated update process''' views [[aardvark man]], though, the /raws are not accessible, so the "death=nobutcher" line is not included, so the "contrib" message (and associated category) ''are'' included. This is the exact same bug that affects every other category that depends on information from the /raws. --[[User:Loci|Loci]] 21:15, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

===Suggested categories===
* Pages missing butchering returns entirely: there isn't an easy way to find all pages that lack butchering information. Most "tattered" creature pages don't have butchering returns, but some do, and some that don't have it are rated higher than "tattered". Of course, this category shouldn't include animalmen, or other creatures that can't be butchered. It seems like checking for a single body part would do the trick, but [[jackal]]s don't seem to produce hearts. [[Rabbit]]s only produce a skull (which might work, but a few creatures might not even produce that - I'll have to check).
* My feeble attempt on [[:Category:DF2012:Hermaphrodite]] could use a little work (if you're wondering, they're basically creatures without a male and female caste, so they can't reproduce). I know there are more than the 2 I bothered to mark, and if we integrate it here we could delete the template I created to cover it.
* This is probably unrelated to attributes, but quick access to creature variations (giant, animalman, etc) could be useful in some cases. They're hard to find in the creature template, and it's especially hard when the base creature is a vermin (although in that case it uses vermininfo instead, which makes it a lot harder to set up links between creatures since they use different templates. Using a separate template to look up creature variations given a creature name could work, similar to [[:Template:Tame attrib proc]].)
* Adding a category for creatures with <code>contrib=yes</code> would make it easier to track down pages that need more information (this is probably the easiest, just adding a simple <code><nowiki>{{#if:{{{contrib}}}| {{Category|Incomplete butchering returns}}}}</nowiki></code> should do the trick, but I'm not sure if it should be added on this template or under creatureinfo. Also, while I would prefer to use the category template to split the category into namespaces, using a link might be preferable in a few cases which I have yet to discover).

== interwiki ==

Please add <nowiki>{{interwiki|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}</nowiki> as in Template:Plantlookup/aux. It should make possible to jump (back) to the russian version... (Maybe it's not the best place for it?). --[[User:Aklad|Aklad]] ([[User talk:Aklad|talk]]) 20:57, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
:I added the interwiki template to the {{tl|creaturedesc}} template instead--the interwiki links should still automatically appear on creature pages, and this template is already excessively complex.--[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 20:28, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks! --[[User:Aklad|Aklad]] ([[User talk:Aklad|talk]]) 07:11, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

== Masterwork mod ==

Hi there,
I've been trying to add data to animal pages from the mod. Since the mod changed the butchered items (no spleen, sweetbread, lungs etc - but wool, pelt etc added), I was wondering whether it is possible to alter the template to adjust to those changes. I tried simply adding/deleting certain categories but the preview still shows the old ones. Any ideas?--[[User:Afghani84|Afghani84]] ([[User talk:Afghani84|talk]]) 09:40, 5 February 2014 (UTC)