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40d Talk:Important advice

2008-09-12T14:33:54Z

Dolohov:

Might want to change that, the last sentence doesn't make sense. - [[User:Schm0]]

Dwarf Fortress is about watching dwarves dying in unique fashions. Your job is really to create their arena. [[User:Klichka|Klichka]] 10:52, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

...And about watching what monumental fuckups the elves are at trading. [[User:Klichka|Klichka]] 11:00, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

according to experience, there are two priorities for the stone used for an ambiguous task: the nearest available and the most recently excavated. [[User:Eurytus|Eurytus]] 18:38 April 8 2008 (EDT)

I'm convinced that the game is actually a Lord of the Flies simulator. - [[User:Dolohov|Dolohov]] 10:33, 12 September 2008 (EDT)

User talk:RustyMcloon

2008-09-09T17:00:26Z

Dolohov:

I am indeed a Tolstoy fan :) (Sorry for the late response, I usually browse not-logged-in) [[User:Dolohov|Dolohov]] 14:27, 24 August 2008 (EDT)

Enjoy Anna Karenina! I love the opening line; I did my degree in robotics and was very fond of saying "The robots that work all work the same. The robots that don't work, don't work in their own special ways." -[[User:Dolohov|Dolohov]] 13:00, 9 September 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Metalsmith's forge

2008-09-08T01:55:26Z

Dolohov: Metal clothing skill?

I don't think pages like this need the Building template, maybe 'workshops', but is a related article on Cave-in's really necessary for a metalsmith's workshop? I think the building template is too bulky to be used on this page. --[[User:Markavian|Markavian]]

== Crossbows ==

*''TODO: I can't confirm that this does anything, as my metalsmith with all these skills won't make my copper crossbow --[[User:Markavian|Markavian]]''.
:I can confirm that crossbowmaking is the only skill required to make crossbows in this workshop. I had a crossbowmaker make a bee-line for the shop the moment I assigned the work order. His only other skill activated was carpentry and woodcutting.--[[User:Chthon|Chthon]] 11:56, 7 November 2007 (EST)
:I was tryig to make some crossbows and couldn't figure it out until I realized that they use crossbowmaking. When I turned the skill on my weaponsmith made them. [[User:Mindsnap|Mindsnap]] 15:23, 3 December 2007 (EST)
::In my 38c game, making crossbows at the forge requires weaponsmithing to start the job. I'm unclear as to whether the crossbow making skill figures into this at all. I have heard that high crossbow making skill gives a better result at the forge, but I am skeptical. Are there any other cases where a secondary skill figures into the quality of an object produced? [[User:Tulthix|Tulthix]] 12:58, 2 April 2008 (EDT)
*''TODO: Provide example or grouping inplace of ??? for Blacksmith and Metalcrafting''

::Keep hard information on the article pages and discussion on the discussion pages please. --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 15:14, 7 November 2007 (EST)

== Recommended Merger ==

The information in this page and [[Metalsmith]] needs to be merged. That one seems to have more info in it so I recommend keeping it, and making this redirect. (''The previous unsigned comment was added by [[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]].'')
:But metalsmith's forge is the proper name for the page. Why not make Metalsmith a redirect and move its contents here? --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMario]] 21:50, 18 November 2007 (EST)
::This page should be mostly replaced with the information on the [[Metalsmith]] page, and Metalsmith should redirect to here since the information pulled from the Metalsmith page would contain required information relating to the metalsmithing skill. That is what I would like to see, and I will do this in a few days myself if there are no disagreements. Please offer any other suggestions that you can think of. [[User:FFLaguna|FFLaguna]] 18:37, 2 December 2007 (EST)
:I don't think this page should not redirect to Metalsmith because it contains information about other smithing skills that aren't directly relevant to Metalsmithing. As such, I think it logical that they should either redirect here, or the Metalsmith page be stripped down to a simple description of: 'A '''metalsmith''' is a dwarf with the '''X skill''' capable of creating items in the [[Metalsmith's forge]].' I'd argue the workshop template shouldn't be on the metalsmith's page because it isn't a workshop page. --[[User:Markavian|Markavian]] 16:51, 4 December 2007 (EST)

== Blacksmithing ==

I believe that this is used to make furniture and essentially all non-weapon/militaty/craft goods at the forge. The current reference to "iron working" is misleading as they can work with materials other than iron. [[User:Mindsnap|Mindsnap]] 15:23, 3 December 2007 (EST)

== Fix some links ==

I was looking at this page and it looks good, but some of the links arent correct, such as the "bars" link at the end of the furniture section, it takes you to the bars link but not the metals page. I think We should change that.

== Metal clothing skill? ==

Maybe I'm not reading closely enough, but I can't tell what skill is used to forge adamantine clothing. -[[User:Dolohov|Dolohov]] 21:55, 7 September 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Sasquatch

2008-08-24T19:06:59Z

Dolohov: butchered sasquatch

I just butchered a sasquatch and got 9 meat, 9 bones, 9 chunks, a skin, and a skull. Is this a bug? -[[User:Dolohov|Dolohov]] 15:06, 24 August 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Dragon

2008-08-24T18:35:01Z

Dolohov: /* Disappointment */

== Tameable? ==

Are Dragons tameable in this version? Supposedly they were in the previous version, but I am not sure. [[User:KiTA|KiTA]] 18:59, 24 November 2007 (EST)

If you see a Hyrda in a fortress, will a Dragon ever appear, or will you forever see Hyrdas going forward? [[User:KiTA|KiTA]] 18:59, 24 November 2007 (EST)

: Yes, they can be tamed once you get the [[dungeon master]], just like before. --[[User:JT|JT]] 18:43, 24 November 2007 (EST)
:: What about multiple types of megabeasts showing up? Or is it "once a hyrda, always a hydra?"
::: I had both a hydra and bronze colossus show up in the same fort [[User:Coelocanth|Coelocanth]]
::: I had a Dragon, and then 3 months later a hydra show up as well. PS: I edited your comment. --[[User:Gotthard|Gotthard]] 11:08, 10 December 2007 (EST)
::::So far I'm 15 years into my fortress and I've had 3 Bronze Collusi, 2 Hydras, 1 Titan and 1 Dragon. I've tossed them all into a pit which I drop sieging armies into for my amusment... [[User:XRsyst|XRsyst]] 22:55, May 15 2008 (PDT)

== Disappointment ==

I was pretty disappointed with my first Dragon. It came during a goblin siege, and proceeded to make a bee line for them. The first goblin bolt grounded it as unconscious, and the second killed it. Highly anticlimactic, it didn't even singe anything. Would be nice if they were somewhat threatening. --Gotthard 13:50, 3 December 2007 (EST)
:This is not a problem with dragons, it's a recuring problem from ranged weapons. Did you ever try to send champions against a horde of bowmen? They'd die just as easily as recruits... --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 14:30, 3 December 2007 (EST)
::I would say it is somewhat a problem with megabeasts in general, though. Someone actually mentioned this to me in another context the other day, but megabeasts really need to have some special mechanics for them if they're going to be very mega.--[[User:Qalnor|Qalnor]] 15:01, 3 December 2007 (EST)
::If I read the raws correctly, it just looks like his only attack is a bite (with a good damage of 1-6). Shouldn't he have a tail swipe, or a wing buffet to complement his fire breathing ability? Perhaps an increased resistance to ranged attacks, although armor doesn't seem to do much to piercing damage. Very irritating. --Gotthard 17:21, 3 December 2007 (EST)
:I just saw something similar -- my hunter was out hunting, and came upon a dragon that had just invaded. He seems to have dodged the fire the dragon breathed at him, then knocked it unconscious with a bolt to the heart. The hunter must have agreed that this was anticlimactic, as he then shrugged and went to kill a mountain goat. [[User:Dolohov|Dolohov]] 14:35, 24 August 2008 (EDT)
A dragon raided my village, burning everything above ground. The flames consumed everything. Including the dragon itself. --[[User:Sebbekai|Sebbekai]] 16:31, 5 April 2008 (EDT)
:err... it burned itself to death? Are you sure? Because if you look at the object data for dragons in this article, it has the [FIREIMMUNE_SUPER] tag... --[[User:BahamutZERO|BahamutZERO]] 22:17, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

== Tiny? ==

Dragons can enter dwarf homes? That's a bit odd. A five story tall dragon probably should be a bit taller then the four-or-so foot dwarves. I'd imagine elves have a hard enough time as is. [[User:Minalkra|Minalkra]] 01:20, 2 May 2008 (EDT)

:Uhh.. This is Dwarf Fortress not the North American Scale and Size Convention (NASSC) ...Duh [[User:Hoborobo|Hoborobo]] 14:03, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

== Burning items ... ==

IMO the easiest way of dealing with fire breath is: Options -> Only military allowed outside.

Setting this ON as soon as the dragon arrives will result in dwarves not doing much (or more precisely cancelling any task that paths them outside), but should also prevent dwarves from picking up burning items (providing you kill the dragon while it's still outside the fortress.)

== They're [FANCIFUL]...? ==

I just noticed the object data for dragons has the [FANCIFUL] tag. I had been led to believe by [[Fanciful|this article]] that this tag was for creatures that were just mythical and didn't actually spawn in the game. But dragons certainly do spawn in the game. Is that article wrong or what? --[[User:BahamutZERO|BahamutZERO]] 22:26, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

:I think this makes dragons not spawn normally. Instead, they spawn when it's time for a dragon attack. --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMaria]] 22:32, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

::Ah, I just looked at the other megabeasts, and they have the tag too, along with the demons. So that's probably why. The [FANCIFUL] article is still somewhat wrong or misleading though. --[[User:BahamutZERO|BahamutZERO]] 22:36, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

== After being tamed ==

Will the defend themselves if they get attacked? I would love burning the bloody goblins who go after my dwarf families. It seems they won't move much if you let them out of their cages. It would also be fun to have a match with 2 mega beasts against each other.--[[User:Seaneat|Seaneat]] 13:37, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

== Spawning Injured? ==

I was just assaulted by a Dragon. With no legs. (Well... it was missing 2 legs... completely cut off)

It constantly was unconscious (although it did wake up every 5 minutes or so and take a couple steps forward)
I haven't checked up on the legends for that dragon yet, but I can assume it lost those body parts in a battle sometime back. Very... intreaguing. Should a note be made about mega-beasts spawning as such?

:This does sound rather intersting. When did Toady Introduce the fact that Megabeats exist in the world and can be encountered on numerous ocassions, given that you haven't killed them yet? And, Can you find mega-beasts in Adventure mode? [[User:Hoborobo|Hoborobo]] 08:17, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

User talk:RustyMcloon

2008-08-24T18:27:20Z

Dolohov: New page: I am indeed a Tolstoy fan :) (Sorry for the late response, I usually browse not-logged-in) ~~~~

I am indeed a Tolstoy fan :) (Sorry for the late response, I usually browse not-logged-in) [[User:Dolohov|Dolohov]] 14:27, 24 August 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Room

2007-11-15T15:55:53Z

Dolohov:

"Walls with ore or gems cannot be smoothed, much less detailed." Is this still true? I'd heard that smoothing/engraving of ore veins is now possible. And yet again, I can't test because I'm reading the wiki at work while waiting for a database query to finish... >_> --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 17:28, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

:I deleted the comment about not being able to smooth ore or gems, because you CAN in this version (they all count as different types of rocks). Boo whoever copy pasted the article without looking at it.

::what was the point in aechiving old wiki if people are going to copy and paste, please people if you are going to copy paste thourghly read the article to ensure all info is correct, i didnt read past this so there may be more but rooms are no longer diamonds, this is somehing really obvious and should have been picked up on by whoever copy pasted it otherwise we may as well stick with edditing old wiki. [[User:Thatguyyaknow|Thatguyyaknow]] 20:08, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

Is there a way to check what price a room currently has without counting it yourself? Just wanted to know if I counted right. --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 15:33, 4 November 2007 (EST)

::if the economy has started you might be able to, past that though probably not :( --[[User:Frostedfire|Frostedfire]] 18:17, 8 November 2007 (EST)

My dwarves' thoughts have lately included reference to dining in a "legendary" dining room, but the best one I currently have is listed as "Fine" when I assign it to someone. Does this correspond directly to the value of the room (I intend to bring it up to Royal to find out) or is there something else at work there? [[User:Dolohov|Dolohov]] 10:55, 15 November 2007 (EST)

40d:Utilities

2007-11-13T23:02:37Z

Dolohov: /* reveal.exe */ Specified that DF must be running -- took me forever to figure that out.

Here are third party applications (that were not written by Bay12Games) developed for Dwarf Fortress:

== Movies, Screenshots, Map Files ==

=== DF Map Compressor / DF Map Archive ===

*[http://shadowlord13.googlepages.com/dfmap-index.html SL's DF Map Compressor - Website]
*[http://mkv25.net/dfma/ Dwarf Fortress Map Archive]

The map compressor was created by Shadowlord in May 2007. Extract from the website :
:"The '''DF Map Compressor''' is a program I made to encode Dwarf Fortress fortress or world map images into a much smaller format than is possible with normal image formats. Here's a quick summary of how it works: It determines the size of your tiles from your DF font file (or asks you), splits the map up into tiles, identifies duplicate tiles, writes out every unique tile image, and then writes out a list of ID#s for each tile position which points to the tile image for that tile. What it outputs is piped through the LZMA compressor (the one used in 7-zip), to compress it further. The .df-map file which it writes out is usually less than 100 KB in size. (By comparison, a PNG of the same map can exceed 2 megabytes, depending on how well you compress it, whether you change the color depth, and whether you are using a graphical tileset or detailed font)."

The compressed '''(.FDF-MAP)''' map can then be submitted to the [http://mkv25.net/dfma/ Dwarf Fortress Map Archive]; an online repository website which uses a Flash based viewer to view the map in your browser. (Read more about the [[User:Markavian#DF_Map_Archive|DF Map Archive]] on Markavian's [User page.)

=== CMVPlayer ===

[http://www.geocities.com/jifodus/CMVPlayer.zip Download CMVPlayer.zip]

First released by Jifodus in April 2007. This application enables playback of the DF movies (.cmv) without starting DF. It also provides some more functionalities, such as :
* Rewind
* Pause
* Play frame per frame

To use, simply unzip the file, and drop and drag the movie on CMVPlayer.exe.

== [[User:Rick|Rick]]'s utilities ==
Fabulous tools made by the marvelous Rick. All Hail Rick!

Outdated tools (v0.27.169.32a): [http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=5465reveal.zip reveal.exe] [http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=tileinfo_2.zip tileinfo.exe]

Current tools ('''v0.27.169.33a'''):

=== adjuststart.exe ===
[http://kisskapsel.se/adjuststart.exe Download adjuststart.exe]   Modifies the starting number of dwarves and/or the starting points.

=== heal.exe ===
[http://kisskapsel.se/heal.exe Download heal.exe]   Heals creature limbs (any creature you can highlight with V basically). You can optionally hurt a creature by specifying -hurt on the command-line arguments.

=== reveal.exe ===
[http://kisskapsel.se/reveal.exe Download reveal.exe]   Makes as much of the map visible as it can (eg, it can't reveal unallocated map blocks) Run while Dwarf Fortress is running.

If you want to reveal the entire map, go to the furthest Z level down you can get to, and designate the entire bottom to be mined, then remove the designation, then run reveal.

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== foreman.exe ==
[http://www.pavlovian.net/foreman/]   Makes switching jobs on and off for large numbers of dwarves simple. Dwarves are grouped by their profession, or custom profession if they have one. By clicking on the graph you can enable any job for all dwarves with that profession. Still in alpha for this version of DF, if it doesn't recognise one of the new professions, check the file '''debug.txt''' in the directory you run foreman from.

Though prone to crashing currently, saving and exiting DF, starting foreman and then starting DF again will usually get it working again.

It is not recommended that you change the jobs of visiting merchants or outpose liasons, though it is ''highly'' recommended if you hate lazy dwarven children, because you can force them to plant seeds and gather plants by turning on '''farming(fields)''' and '''plant gathering'''.

This handy utility would be an ideal complent to an updated LabourDF.

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== Enable Magma Buildings ==
Helper utility for Rick's reveal.exe
[http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=enable_magma_buildings_33a.zip enable_magma_buildings_33a.zip]

You need this utility in the case that you used the reveal utility, and
there is a magma pool or pipe on your map that does not reach the surface.
(If the hide utility is ever updated, you could also hide a few magma
tiles and then dig them out. That worked in the old version.)

Because there is no actual flag that controls whether magma has been seen
(the game searches a list, probably a list of notable events), I had to
patch the game's code. This means you need to run the patch every time
you start dwarfort.exe.

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== Teleport ==
[http://angband.org/~erasmus/df/teleport20.zip teleport20.zip] -- Teleport dwarves and other creatures

Version 2.0 for DF 33a.

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== [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macro_%28computer_science%29 Macro Programs] ==
A program that lets you program scripts/macros so that when you press a certain key combination, or in any other fashion activates the program, a series of keystrokes is sent to the active program instead.

=== [http://www.autohotkey.com/ AutoHotKey] ===
AHK lets you define global hotkeys to send a sequence of keystrokes. For example, you can have {{key|alt}}+{{key|w}} replace {{key|b}}-{{key|C}}-{{key|w}}-{{key|Enter}}-{{key|Enter}} to make wall building much easier.

40d Talk:Elf

2007-11-12T15:53:52Z

Dolohov: Fortress in Elf Territory

I have successfuly traded them Silk items in 0.27.169.32a--[[User:Draco18s|Draco18s]] 00:01, 4 November 2007 (EDT)

:Thanks for testing it, I removed the verify tag. --[[User:Turgid Bolk|Turgid Bolk]] 20:43, 4 November 2007 (EST)

I have to wonder why elves wouldn't accept anything made out of wood, when all they want to trade me is animals in wooden cages, and alcohol in wooden barrels and bows and bolts made out of wood...you know what, almost everything they wanted to trade me was made from wood... --[[User:UltimaGecko|UltimaGecko]] 01:32, 4 November 2007 (EDT)

:It's because the elves ask nicely when they take wood from a tree. Dwarves go out and TAKE IT!--[[User:Xazak|Xazak]] 14:38, 4 November 2007 (EST)

I accidentally tried to trade a wooden bucket with them. The elves scolded me, but still allowed me to trade my stone mugs and scepters. They don't leave straight away anymore.{{Verify}} --[[User:Mechturk|Mechturk]] 01:44, 5 November 2007 (EST)

:Ah, I'm glad they're more forgiving now. Fixed. --[[User:Turgid Bolk|Turgid Bolk]] 02:14, 5 November 2007 (EST)

== Fortress in Elf Territory ==

I set one up for fun, and so far (1st winter) there's been no effect. The weirdest part is the large number of named trees; I've avoided cutting them down, and the elves haven't bothered me. I've had hunters chase and kill deer right in their midst with no ill effect as well -- it remains to be seen what happens if he misses the deer and hits an elf, though. Will report back when I find something interesting. [[User:Dolohov|Dolohov]] 10:53, 12 November 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Tree

2007-11-12T15:48:24Z

Dolohov: question about named trees

So what's the deal with named trees near elf settlements? They seem to stop a short distance from the location of the closest elf. I think I accidentally cut one down, but the elves haven't responded. [[User:Dolohov|Dolohov]] 10:48, 12 November 2007 (EST)