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		<title>v0.34 Talk:Baron</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;DragDen: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I've done an experiment and it seems that [[Sheriff]] or [[Captain of the guard]] is another prerequisite to obtain a baron: Grow a fortress to 250 inhabitants without law enforcement and the diplomat will not suggest a barony. However as soon as there is a guard...&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:MathFox|MathFox]] 00:31, 10 April 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I haven't appointed a [[Sheriff]] or [[Captain of the guard]] and was asked if I wanted a barron, also I am only just over 200!&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:66.168.42.24|66.168.42.24]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::Agreed. Due to the failings of dwarven [[justice]] I never appoint those positions, and I haven't noticed any difficulty becoming a barony. It may presumably be included as an optional &amp;quot;requirement&amp;quot;, but I have [http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=DF2012:Baron&amp;amp;diff=185534&amp;amp;oldid=183361 removed the statement] from the article until it can be clarified. --[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 19:15, 10 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Fine with me. I still wonder what causes my general lack of nobility... --[[User:MathFox|MathFox]] ([[User talk:MathFox|talk]]) 20:07, 11 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I've also received a baron without appointing these positions. I don't remember what my exact population was, but I'm pretty sure it was under 200. --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 21:29, 10 May 2013 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Me too. Diplomat made an offer for barony, when my population was somewhere between 80 and 100. By the way, is it true that offer can be permanently refused? I told him that we want to remain our distance from homeland, but he just kept arriving every year after that with same offer. [[User:DragDen|DragDen]] ([[User talk:DragDen|talk]]) 10:22, 29 August 2013 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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