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Evilishies: Update some of the key shortcuts for cages

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:''For information on cage traps, see [[Trap#Cage_Trap|traps]].''

'''Cages''' are used in [[cage trap]]s, [[jail]]s, [[zoo]]s, [[Activity_zone#Pit/Pond|pit]]s and aquariums. A glass cage is called a '''terrarium''' or, if filled with [[water]] for holding [[Captured live fish|captured]] live aquatic [[vermin]], an '''aquarium'''.

Cages are stored in an animal [[stockpile]] (unless they have been [[Wear|worn out]] somehow, in which case they are stored in a refuse stockpile). Dwarves will attempt to collect and store cages in stockpiles if the "Dwarves Gather Animals" [[Standing_orders|order]] ({{k|y}} - '''Standing orders''' tab - '''Hauling''' tab) is enabled.

Empty cage storage can be controlled by toggling the "empty cages" option for animal stockpiles.

==Building and using a cage==
[[File:cage_preview.jpg|thumb|270px|right|Cages work well for humanoids as well.]][[File:cage_trap_preview.jpg|thumb|270px|right|Capturing that thing was the "easy" part. ''Art by kruggsmash'']]

A cage can be constructed from a log of [[wood]] at a [[carpenter's workshop]], three bars of [[metal]] at a [[metalsmith's forge]], or from [[glass]] at a [[glass furnace]].

You can then either build them on a tile via {{k-|b|r|g}} (this is needed for linking a [[lever]] to them, or assigning a tame animal to it) or simply keep them stockpiled so they can be used to load cage [[trap]]s.

When building a cage, you can choose a cage that already has something inside. To precisely select which cage to use, you can expand the list of cages with {{k|x}}.

===Creature containment===

To assign creatures to a cage, first build the cage in the location you want using {{k-|b|r|g}}. You can only assign creatures to a cage that is not part of a dungeon zone. Cages in a dungeon will have prisoners assigned automatically as part of the [[Justice#Cages_and_Chains|justice]] system. To assign a creature to the cage, first select the cage, and then press the "+" button on its status page. Use {{k|Shift}} and the mouse wheel to quickly scroll up and down the list of [[creatures]], and {{k|click}} to assign them to the cage. Creatures currently assigned to the cage are listed at the top; the rest of the creatures are listed in order of arrival on the map (including any inaccessible creatures). Note that tame grazing creatures will starve if left in cages, though pet owners may feed their pets. Instead of caging grazers, assign them to a [[zone|pasture]] that has plenty of tasty [[grass]] and/or [[cave moss]].

Multiple creatures can be assigned to the same cage with no penalty. It is possible to fit hundreds of [[dog|puppies]] with dozens of [[dragon]]s, and whatever other animals are on hand, in a single cage with no ill effects. This has led some players to conclude that cages include some sort of hidden "cage space" that allows infinitely tight packing of creatures.

There is no particular labor for releasing creatures from built cages. Select the cage to examine it (it must first be "built," not just stored - use {{k-|b|r|g}} to build a cage, and then to toggle the animal(s) currently inside (animals assigned to the cage will show up on the cage's page). Any available dwarf will perform the job, so beware of pitting untamed or hostile creatures with a weak dwarf.

Alternatively, creatures can be released from un-built cages provided that they are able to be assigned to a pasture, ie. animals, tame or otherwise. Once assigned to a pasture, a dwarf will automatically remove them from their cage and lead them to their assigned pasture. Note that if the cage containing the creature is already within the pasture, the creature will '''not''' be released, as it is considered to be already in its pasture.

Caged citizens of (and visitors to) your fort, if wounded, will be freed by the "Recover Wounded" job and taken to the nearest hospital zone. This mostly occurs during loyalty cascades, when separatists are knocked unconscious while fighting on a cage trap. If the hauling dwarf is from the other faction, it is possible that they lay the patient in bed and then immediately attack her.

You can get details about the creatures which are in a built cage by pressing {{k|t}} and then {{k|enter}}. There, you can scroll the list of creatures and get details, for example, you can tell whether a creature is male or female, which is useful if you are preparing a breeding program.

[[Vermin]] can also be assigned to cages, to save space or [[animal trap]]s. However, if you try to release them ({{k|q}} and then {{k|a}}), the dwarf will pickup an animal trap and put the poor creature back in a stock cage. To explicitly release an animal, instead "pull" the animal somewhere else: either assign the animal to a [[pit]] (which could simply be a hillside outside your fortress), or a pasture. This has the benefit of making it clear where the animal is being released. However, keep in mind the dwarf will uncage the animal first and then lead it to the release, so large/dangerous animals may escape en route. Consider using the [[dump]] command to move the cage before release, or assign the animal stockpile next to the pit/pasture.

Bees show up in the list of creatures that can be assigned to a cage, but the dwarves will not start the task, and it will not be shown in the {{k|j}}obs list.

Creatures in cages cannot be attacked (though any existing attack orders will '''not''' automatically cancel, leaving your militiadwarves milling around the cage uselessly). Most caged creatures are also unable to attack, although some special attacks (such as gaseous noxious secretions) can still be used. Creatures in cages are also immune to damage from falling, and falling objects. [[Breeding]] creatures are unable to get pregnant if caged, although they will give birth while caged if they were already pregnant. Creatures in cages also age, so [[kitten]]s in a cage will eventually become adult cats. Creatures in cages are affected by extreme temperatures, and [[dwarven atom smasher|atom smashing]] the cage will also obliterate the occupants, even if they are normally immune to smashing. Casting a cage in [[obsidian]] will not harm the occupants (though the temperature might, if the cage is subjected to magma for very long).

Beware of cages that contain creature(s) with very high internal temperature, such as [[fire imp]]s. They cannot harm your dwarves directly while caged, but their body heat ''can''; by heating up the tile that the cage occupies. If the cage-hauler is very slow and weak, they may spend enough time in each tile to feel the effects of the heat, and they will, dutifully but foolishly, continue to haul the cage until their head melts off. To move "hot" cages safely over long distances, make sure that a strong or fast dwarf hauls it.

"Deconstructing" a cage via {{k-|q|x}} with creatures in it does not harm the cage, the dwarves will return the cage (with the creatures in it) to the nearest animal stockpile.

If you melt the cages, creatures inside will be released.

===Prisons===

To set a cage as a [[jail]], {{k|q}}uery the cage, designate it as a {{k|r}}oom, and then set it to be used for {{k|j}}ustice. Only [[metal]] cages may be used in this way, despite [[wood]]en cages being strong enough to hold [[dragon]]s.

If the cage is already located within a designated Jail room, it will be automatically included in the jail.

===Remotely opening cages===

A built cage can be linked to a [[lever]] to remotely open it. When the cage opens, the occupant(s) inside are released, the cage and [[mechanism]] deconstruct and can be returned to their respective stockpiles. Note that you have to use a "built" cage as described above, it won't work with cages on your stockpile. Also note that the mechanism attached to the lever will '''not''' automatically deconstruct; you have to manually deconstruct the lever to get back the mechanism used to open the cage.

Alternately, when traders are around, you can select "move good to trading depot" and select the cage of choice. When a hauler takes the cage, any untameable creatures inside will be released; be sure to disarm the creature beforehand... This is also the easiest way of releasing caged dwarves.

A way to release creatures from stockpiled cages (which have not been built) is to assign the creatures to a [[pasture]] (which is possible for any living thing except dwarves). The same precautions as for trading the cage should be taken first.

Another way is to use the [[container]] spilling effect: cages [[Trap_design#Shotgun|hurled from a colliding minecart]] ''also'' spill their contents upon collision (see [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=109460.msg3340230#msg3340230 this forum message]). This combines timing control of a lever or pressure plate with the reusability of pitting. If you want to deliver Goblin snatchers into your target practice room despite [[Thief|thieves]]' ability to wriggle out of normal pitting, or a bunch of [[cave floater]]s toward invaders, this method may be preferable.

===Cages and fluids===

A cage will protect a creature inside it from [[swimmer|drowning]], so if you want to drown a creature in a cage, you must open it remotely, as explained in the above section (as a corollary, if your fortress is drowning in water, you can cage your dwarves and rescue them later). However, built cages will not protect caged creatures from [[magma]], making this a somewhat faster option, as it doesn't require linking each cage to a lever. Cages which are not [[magma-safe]] will be degraded and/or destroyed by this process, and cages which are made of flammable materials (such as wood) may be set on [[fire]]. Any items the creature had equipped will teleport {{verify}} to wherever the creature was caged, typically a tile with a [[cage trap]] on it. These items may or may not be on fire; no case of teleporting !!large cave spider silk sock!!s have yet been observed, but this doesn't prove it can't happen. Exercise caution.

It's also possible to cage fluids(done by pushing uncaged animals/invaders over armed cage traps with water.) The cage containing the liquid must be built to remove the liquid. *magma not tested (yet)

===Buying cages ===
Traders may bring cages for sale. If those contain a [[tame]]d [[creature]] or [[vermin]], the item will be listed as ''(creature) cage'', and the material will only be mentioned in parentheses behind the item name, e.g. Wolf Cage (Oaken).

===Selling caged creatures ===
If you want to sell an animal, you need to assign it to a constructed cage first (see above) and then deconstruct the cage by {{K|q}}uerying it and pressing {{K|x}}. You can then select the cage in the trading menu.

Note that only tamed animals can be traded safely. The dwarf assigned to hauling a container will look through its contents and chuck out anything that can't be traded. In the case of cages, this means anything sentient - including such nasties as [[cyclops|cyclopes]].{{Bug|4065}} Letting such monsters loose in the middle of your fort is good [[fun]].

=== How to disarm hostiles in cages ===
An easy way to take away all prisoner-held armor and clothing is via the mass designation tool. Designate an area with {{K|d}}-{{K|b}}-{{K|c}} to claim and {{K|d}}-{{K|b}}-{{K|d}} to dump an area (i.e. your animal [[stockpile]], filled with caged prisoners). Afterwards, hit {{K|k}}, and go over each cage and press {{K|d}} for each of them - this stops the dumping on the cages themselves. You will need a [[DF2012:Activity zone#Garbage Dump|garbage dump]] set up already for the dwarves to take the dumped items to. The dwarves will strip the prisoners naked and haul the items away. The cages themselves (and the creatures within) will remain in place. The items will end up in the garbage dump zone. If you want to reuse the items, you need only to designate claim {{K|d}}-{{K|b}}-{{K|c}} on your garbage dump zone to reclaim the items after they are dumped there. If your animal stockpile is outdoors, you need to have the "Dwarves Gather Refuse from Outside" {{K|o}}-{{K|r}}-{{K|o}} order set.

An easier way to selectively disarm prisoners is to designate mass forbid {{K|d}}-{{K|b}}-{{K|f}} and mass dump {{K|d}}-{{K|b}}-{{K|d}} on all of the caged prisoner stockpile. You will need a [[bookkeeper]] for this. Press {{K|z}} and go to the [[stocks]] screen. Find an item category with items marked '''F''' and '''D'''. Press {{K|f}} to remove the '''F''' for those items, but don't remove the '''D'''. This will unforbid them, but they will remain marked for dumping. When you exit the stocks screen, the dwarves will haul those items from the cages and drop them into the garbage dump. When the dwarves have finished the hauling tasks, designate a mass claim {{K|d}}-{{K|b}}-{{K|c}} and mass undump {{K|d}}-{{K|b}}-{{K|D}} on the same area as earlier to remove the forbid and dump designations from the cages and the rest of the contents.

This method can be used to confiscate specific items from caged prisoners, like weapons, armor or bags containing stolen property or kidnapped children. It can be more useful to just remove their weapons if you want to use your caged prisoners for target practice; they will be more durable with their clothes and armor equipped, but not very dangerous without their weapons.

To selectively remove only weapons from caged prisoners, first claim the entire prisoner stockpile, then {{K|d}}-{{K|b}}-{{K|h}} to hide everything including cages, buildings and prisoner equipment. Go in to your standard (non-dfhack) stock screen and browse the weapons section. Anything tagged with a blue '''H''' is a hidden prisoners' weapon, dump them. Once you have selectively removed only their weapons, use {{K|d}}-{{K|b}}-{{K|H}} to unhide everything. This works with everything like shields and armor, not just weapons.

[http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=81601.0 Source.]

Alternatively, [https://dfhack.readthedocs.io/en/stable/docs/_auto/base.html#stripcaged dfhack 'stripcaged'] is available, but the 'weapons' switch also removes their shields.

'''An updated process for v50 can be found in the following reddit conversation:''' https://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/comments/zluzq6/disarming_caged_prisoners/

=== Emptying refuse ===
If you [[animal trainer|tame an animal]] while it is inside a cage (a process which involves feeding a plant to the caged animal), you may leave seeds inside the cage. To get these out, you must mark them for [[activity zone#Garbage_Dump|dumping]], designate a garbage zone, and wait for a dwarf to dump the seeds in the garbage zone. Then you can reclaim them.

Animals that expire in a cage (built in a [[zoo]], or just sitting in an animal stockpile) also clutter up the cage until removed. If the cage is unbuilt and the animal is [[butcher]]able, your dwarves may haul the animal, cage included, to the butcher shop for processing. If not, you will need to manually clean the cage by dumping the corpse and any other items.

Marking refuse for dumping can be done by pressing {{k|k}} for an unbuilt cage ({{k|t}} for a built cage), then selecting the cage and pressing {{k|Enter}}, then selecting the item and pressing {{k|Enter}} again, and finally pressing {{k|d}} to mark the item (rather than the cage) for dumping. Or if there is a lot of refuse, you can use {{k|d}}-{{k|b}}-{{k|d}} to mass-dump everything in the tile, and then un-mark the cage itself.

=== How to quickly empty out many cages ===
If you have many [[Trap#Cage_Trap|cage traps]] then you may have trouble emptying out cages quickly enough at times. See [[Mass pitting]] for suggestions on how to quickly recycle cages. Be advised that there are now reports of frequent escapes while using this method (confirmed for v0.40.10).

Another easy way to quickly empty cages is to simply send the imprisoned creatures to a pasture, where your squad can slaughter them.
(Your dwarves can drag every goblin except thieves).
The easiest way is to place the pasture right next to the cages and let your dwarves shoot them down. This way you can kill the thieves and monsters too.

Another fun method is to put a 1x1 pasture in the middle of your barracks. Next, tell a squad to kill the target creature in the cage and watch them line up around the prisoner. Finally, assign the prisoner to the pasture in the middle of the barracks. A dwarf will be along shortly to drag the prisoner from the stockpile to the pasture, while your squad beats on them enroute. Even thieves that can't be dragged are still mobbed by your squad waiting as soon as the cage is opened.

== Comparison of cage types ==
As stated before, cages can be made either of wood, metal, or glass. The choice of material reflects the cage's usefulness at certain tasks. To compare:
* '''Wooden''' cages are [[weight|light]] and [[value|cheap]], and easy to mass produce in most [[biome]]s. They are notably not resistant to [[fire]], and will burn up in a forest fire, even when already loaded into an otherwise fire-safe [[cage trap]]. Wooden cages can also be bought from [[elf|elven]] [[caravan]]s if your site has no access to wood itself.

* '''Metal''' cages have the advantage of not being flammable. These are usually [[fire-safe]], and a few types are [[magma-safe]] as well, but this varies depending on what [[metal]] they are made of. These cages are inferior for usage in cage traps, though, because of their high [[weight]] they take ''a lot'' of time to be hauled back and forth. Cages made of cheap metals (copper, tin, zinc, nickel, lead) can be bought in bulk from [[human]] and [[dwarf|dwarven]] merchants, and are the only type of cages these merchants will ever sell.

* '''Glass''' terrariums can be made at a [[glass furnace]] from as little as a [[bag]] of renewable [[sand]]. The three types of glass have exactly the same physical properties, they differ only in [[value]]. All are magma-safe, having a melting temperature higher than any metal. They are heavier than wooden, but much lighter than metal ones, and their weight usually does not inhibit hauling jobs. For all non-decorative uses, green glass should be chosen, as it requires less ingredients and takes less time to be produced than other types of glass.

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==Bugs==

* Creatures in cages that come from dead merchants can only be freed by assigning them to a [[Zone#Pen/Pasture|pen/pasture zone]] and then when they have been put there, deassigning them from the pen/pasture.
* When bringing a cage to the Trade Depot in order to trade it, any untameable creatures inside the cage will be freed. Tamed (and presumably also wild but tameable) animals can be safely traded. {{Bug|4065}}
* Aquariums cannot be used to store large fish (they will drown), though vermin fish work just fine. {{Bug|1590}}
* Dwarves trapped in cages cannot be directly freed. They can only be released by building the cage and connecting a [[lever]] to it, or ordering the cage be brought to a trade depot. {{bug|3070}}

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| elvish = ofúru
| goblin = obtux
| human = tin
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Evilishies: /* Talk page requests */ update request with username

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== Article requests ==


*Request: [[Unusual volcanic wall]] - Right now there's a small section for this new (added in v50) structure/formation under the page for [[obsidian]] but I think it's notable/complex enough for its own page [[User:KM942|KM942]] ([[User talk:KM942|talk]]) 03:50, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

* Request: I would like to upload a few pictures (that I made and edited for clarity) to demonstrate a modular [[Minecart]] thumper design. [[User:2Bob|2Bob]] ([[User talk:2Bob|talk]]) 15:23, 2 January 2023 (UTC)2Bob

*Request: I would like to create [[The Long Night]] and several associated articles [[The Long Night: Civilizations]], [[The Long Night: Creatures]], [[The Long Night: Materials]], [[The Long Night: Weapons]], and [[The Long Night: Armor]] to form a more easily navigated guide to the new features found in the mod of the same name. [[Special:Contributions/98.212.135.225|98.212.135.225]] 23:51, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
** Since this is a mod, it should go under the mod namespace. I've created [[Mod:The Long Night]]; as it expands, I would suggest creating subpages like [[Mod:The Long Night/Creatures]]. —[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 01:25, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

* request: [[DF2014:Altar]] [[Special:Contributions/35.191.8.17|35.191.8.17]] 00:11, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
** Done. DF also refers to these as "offering place"s in the {{k|b}} menu, but I didn't see existing pages where either of these were mentioned from a quick search. —[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 00:03, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

* Request: I would like to create [[DF2014:Messenger]] specifically with the information that they are assigned on the locations screen [[User:Keupo|Keupo]] ([[User talk:Keupo|talk]]) 06:56, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
** You already have permission to do this since you've made 3 edits now. —[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 17:31, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

* Request: I would like to create [[Civilization/World_Info_menu]] [[User:Azeroth2b|Azeroth2b]] ([[User talk:Azeroth2b|talk]]) 18:33, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

* Request: I would like to create [[DF2014:Kisat Dur]] [[Special:Contributions/174.27.44.232|174.27.44.232]] 00:14, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
** Done. [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=148015.0 Forum thread] for reference. —[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 02:09, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

* Request: [[DF2014:Reaction examples]] Simply copy the old page from v0.31 for more resources. Many old pages on modding haven't been pushed through versions even when they are still accurate. [[Special:Contributions/2606:A000:FD44:7A00:B58A:AB43:BD25:B51C|2606:A000:FD44:7A00:B58A:AB43:BD25:B51C]] 22:23, 28 March 2016 (UTC)Ryga_
** Done.--[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 19:47, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

* Request: I would like to create [[DF2014:Philosopher]] and [[DF2014:Sage]] because these are new scholar jobs in 42.xx [[User:Lead Cafe|Lead Cafe]] ([[User talk:Lead Cafe|talk]]) 22:33, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
** Both are profession titles associated with scholars; I created them as redirects to [[DF2014:Scholar]].--[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 04:08, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

*[[DF2014:Citizenship]] — here's one article on a new mechanic not currently covered by the wiki, we most definitely need to work on this. — [[Special:Contributions/94.19.200.59|94.19.200.59]] 20:39, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
**Done. —[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 22:17, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

*[[Masterwork:Titanite]]: I can't find any information about Masterwork's Titanite, either from the wiki or Google. After mining some, I can only cut it like gems. Also need a to-do for this: build a crucible to determine if [[Masterwork:Titanium]] can be extracted from titanite. 1 Jan 2016
**Done. —[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 22:17, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

*[[DF2014:Giant firefly]]: Just found one in my latest save of 0.42.05, realized a page didn't exist. [[User:ArcaneMusic|ArcaneMusic]] ([[User talk:ArcaneMusic|talk]]) 22:07, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
** I just added a list of all the new creatures (probably contains some errors) on the talk pages of the [[graphic set]] and [[creature]] pages. Most of those probably need to be added as new pages too. In addition the page [[Back_bear_man]] should be deleted (mistyped b-L-ack bear man). In the future, it would be nice to have a script that simply goes through the creature raws and suggests new pages to be created for missing creature entries. [[User:CLA|CLA]] ([[User talk:CLA|talk]]) 15:12, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
***The admins have bots that can create the pages automatically. Part of the hold-up is that the wiki's raws haven't been updated, so new creature pages aren't able to "autofill" with the appropriate details from the raws (and we prefer not to enter all that information manually).--[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 20:38, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

*[[Masterwork:Drake]] The article is blank. Since these are a domestic animal that players can grab on embark, there should be some information about them for people new to the mod. [[User:Apollo Densin|Apollo Densin]] ([[User talk:Apollo Densin|talk]]) 02:00, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
** Done.--[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 23:50, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

*Version 0.47.1 added [[DF2014:Fort]], [[DF2014:Constructed creatures]], and perhaps [[DF2014:Intelligent undead]]. It also allows to [[DF2014:Mount]] creatures. A lot of other new features deserve their pages. Perhaps we should create a DF2020 version of pages.

== Talk page requests ==

Requesting new talk page for https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Dwarf_Fortress_Wiki:Centralized_Discussion/page_describing_47_v50_differences [[User:Evilishies|Evilishies]]

I would like a page describing the differences between the 2014 (v0.47) and Steam (v0.50) versions. As a new player, a page outlining these differences would be massively helpful and allow me to read existing documentation and forums more easily, as well as make updates to the v0.50 pages.

Requesting new talk page for https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Template_talk:DF2014_labors please & thank you [[User:Blitz4|Blitz4]] ([[User talk:Blitz4|talk]]) 02:23, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

I would like a talk page for [[DF2014:Bauxite]] and [[DF2014:Aluminum]]. [[User:Magic9mushroom|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom|talk]]) 04:24, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
:Done. -- [[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 18:58, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Request: Talk page for [[DF2012:Repeater]] [[Special:Contributions/68.6.123.36|68.6.123.36]] 03:38, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
:Done. —[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 03:44, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Masterwork_Talk:Guildhall [[Special:Contributions/68.46.84.117|68.46.84.117]] 14:02, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
:Done. --[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 15:01, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Hello, would you be able to create a Talk page with the following question for me?:

"Do children born during fortress mode (or worldgen if you can find out) adopt the dieties of their friends/parents, or are they assigned a random diety? Is this with immediate effect from birth?

Thanks.

Josh"

Thank you! :)

Hello, I'd like to open another talk/discussion page for "Size" (http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Size) with the following question:

Are there any combat benefits to SMALL dwarves?

On one of the pages for an older version of DF it notes that large creatures like elephants have a hard time landing a hit on small creatures like cavies. Would this alleged bonus to-dodge and/or penalty to-hit modifier translate in any meaningul way for smaller dwarves?
:[[DF2012 talk:Size|Done]]. --[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 19:05, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

I'd like to open a talk page for [[DF2012_Talk:Relationships]] with the following note (two paragraphs):

The royalty section is inaccurate. I have a second-generation native-born dwarf in one of my fortresses who has a plentitude of aunts and uncles and listed maternal and paternal grandparents. I'm not sure why having those relationships is only noticed for royalty, but I think it's partially because shorter worlds mean smaller lineages and partially because most forts don't last long enough to see native-born children grow up, get married, and have children of their own. I really don't think there's any reason why extended family would be limited to royalty in any case.

Anyway, I added parents to the Types section, and also grandparents because I hadn't noticed the Royalty section. I'd add Aunts/Uncles but I'm not sure where they fall in on the list, and baby Sarvesh doesn't have any cousins yet.

Thank you! --[[User:Lielac|Lielac]] ([[User talk:Lielac|talk]]) 02:41, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
:Done. —[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 03:37, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I feel that [[DF2012:World_generation]] should cover what goes into history simulation, as it is obviously different to simulation in fortress mode.
However, this is not a matter I am educated on. I would put this request on the page, but I cannot yet create a talk page.
:Done. —[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 19:05, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

* https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Template_talk:DF2014_labors
[[User:Blitz4|Blitz4]] ([[User talk:Blitz4|talk]]) 02:23, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Edits made by 76.116.204.8 were made by me while I was away from school/university on summer/winter vacation at my dad's. I wanted to make a note on [[User talk:76.116.204.8]] claiming attribution for the edits. Additionally, I would like to request the creation of [[Talk:Gem]] so that we can discuss a current bug where the new "cut gem" job never creates a large gem or gem craft (as of 0.50.03). – [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:ArmokGoB|ArmokGoB]]

:You appear to have the ability to create pages now. —[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 04:31, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

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== Redirect requests ==

*[[Hot tub]] should redirect to [[Magma Sea]]—not very common slang, but I've heard it consistently. [[Special:Contributions/68.56.148.200|68.56.148.200]] 06:57, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
**Do you have an example? I've never heard this. —[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 20:14, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
*[[DF2014:Fun]] to [[DF2014:Losing]]
[[dfhack]], [[DFHack]] and [[DF2012:DFHack]] to [[Utility:DFHack]]. --[[User:Lurker|Lurker]] ([[User talk:Lurker|talk]]) 14:07, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
:Done. --[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 17:48, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
* Page "Taming" should redirect to "DF2012:Tame" [[User:Latias1290|Latias1290]] ([[User talk:Latias1290|talk]]) 18:02, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
**[[DF2012:Tame]] is a redirect to [[DF2012:Animal trainer]]. Created [[Taming]] and [[DF2012:Taming]] as redirects. --[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 19:33, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
* Page "Gcs" should redirect to [[DF2014:Giant_cave_spider]]. [[Special:Contributions/199.60.104.18|199.60.104.18]] 19:00, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
:Done. Just do it yourself next time. Just create the page and add "#REDIRECT" followed by a space and the link to the page.[[User:CLA|CLA]] ([[User talk:CLA|talk]]) 22:19, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
::The reason this page exists is because anonymous users can't create pages. —[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 12:09, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
:::Oh, that makes sense. Should have figured that out on my own.
* [[DF2014:Combat log]] could redirect to [[DF2014:Reports]], I think it's the phrase new players will search for. [[User:Okdewit|Okdewit]] ([[User talk:Okdewit|talk]]) 18:58, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
**Done. [[User:Jwoodward48|Jwoodward48]] ([[User talk:Jwoodward48|talk]]) 00:05, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
* create redirect page "World Activation" and redirect to World_activities [[User:Untrustedlife|Untrustedlife]] ([[User talk:Untrustedlife|talk]]) 00:13, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
-- Got it done [[User:Untrustedlife|Untrustedlife]] ([[User talk:Untrustedlife|talk]]) 00:16, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
* Page [[DF2014:Guineahen]] and [[DF2014:Keet]] could redirect to [[DF2014:Guineafowl]] the same way [[DF2014:Guineacock]] does currently. [[Special:Contributions/2A01:C50E:D66A:5500:0:0:0:10|2A01:C50E:D66A:5500:0:0:0:10]] 17:43, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
* Create redirect page for "Retire", "Unretiring", and "Retiring" and redirect to "Reclaim Fortress Mode" [[User:Benderdragon|Benderdragon]] ([[User talk:Benderdragon|talk]]) 16:21, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
** Created [[Retire]]; [[Unretire]] already existed, and I'm hesitant to create redirects for the gerund forms - we don't have guidelines that specifically discourage them, but {{Rule|N}} and {{Rule|E}} are similar, and partial searches for "retir" or "unretir" should bring up the relevant pages in the search box anyway. —[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 00:12, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
*redirect "ringleader" and potentially several other possible titles for crime bosses to [[DF2014:Boss]][[User:Rugnir|Rugnir]] ([[User talk:Rugnir|talk]]) 21:47, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

== Other requests ==


* Could there please be a smaller version of the "D for Dwarf" template, maybe one that leaves the text ''joke'' near a sentence, so that we don't have a big-ass banner for little one-off jokes in articles and reserve the "D for Dwarf" template for entire sections or articles? [[Special:Contributions/68.56.148.200|68.56.148.200]] 23:15, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

* Can someone include a discussion about how dwarfs choose which jobs/tasks to do if they have enabled multiple labors and there are jobs in multiple labors on the DF2012:Labor page? Is it based on which job is created first? Their skills / traits / attributes? Which labor they are highest ranked or their titled profession? This seems to be an issue in the LPs I've been watching early on when there are only the 7 starting dwarves, sometimes extending into the first migration. I know a solution is to deactivate other labors, or use burrows, but I'm still curious how it works. Thank you, [[Special:Contributions/108.243.77.185|108.243.77.185]] 03:08, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

* Hello. I wanted to know how to make the tiles uniform for the ground. I'm sure to have read somewhere once that it was possible to change the tiles to be all "." (I am currently searching for a Goblin Snatcher for a while now ^^). I searched for "ground" what has yielded me a link to above ground page. There was no link there. Could make one to the relevant article or indicate the settings to do please? [[Special:Contributions/31.164.176.33|31.164.176.33]] 20:04, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
** Done: [[Ground]]. --[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 21:57, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

* Hi, im new and just want to start translation of the wiki into german. im really into this game and i guess i still could learn a shitload of new stuff by doing this. AND there would maybe be more players around if and when i/we translate. not every german is fluent in english. -f4nt4sy [[User:F4nt4sy|F4nt4sy]] ([[User talk:F4nt4sy|talk]]) 15:01, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
:See [[DF:Centralized Discussion/Translating the wiki|here]]. It's been suggested before, but it's been hard to set something up on this wiki. —[[User:Lethosor|Lethosor]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|talk]]) 03:22, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

* I'd like to create a page under the centralized discussion for a proposal of subnamespaces for stuff like creatures, skills, etc. under a specific version. Stuff like DF2014:Rat becoming DF2014:Creatures:Rat. I'm not sure if the software allows this, but I thought I'd say it anyway.

* I'd like to add an image of the 'animated bedroom design' section I added to bedroom design. I uploaded a short screen cast here [https://imgur.com/XIGR8Ce], but to get it to below the 2 MB limit I also converted it to a GIF here [https://imgur.com/x86h2u4]. I feel like just adding an imgur link has to be frowned upon so I didn't want to just link to it in the article. [[User:Austin|Austin]] ([[User talk:Austin|talk]]) 05:43, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Cougar man

2023-01-07T23:26:13Z

Evilishies: Add warning that cougar men are carnivourous and will starve if meat is not available

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'''Cougar men''' are [[animal people]] variants of the common [[cougar]] who can be found in [[savage]] [[temperate]] and [[tropical]] regions. They spawn in groups of 1-5 individuals and may pick fights with [[dwarves]] who provoke them, which may lead to death if the dwarf is just a [[peasant]]. In terms of size, they are halfway between dwarves and [[human]]s.

Like other savage animal people, they can join [[civilization]]s, become [[historical figure]]s, appear as [[visitor]]s and be playable in [[adventurer mode]]. Cougar men are able to wear human-sized and dwarf-sized equipment, making them a rather good choice for adventurers.

As with cougars, cougar men are [[Creature token#CARNIVORE|carnivorous]], and will starve if not allowed access to [[meat]].

Some dwarves [[Preferences|like]] cougar men for their ''cunning''.

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Contrary to popular belief, '''cougar men''', or as they are sometimes called, puma men, cannot fly, like a moron or otherwise.

Cougar women are said to follow young male dwarves very closely. Although there are no cases of cougar people attacking and eating dwarves, they tend to refer to them as predators nonetheless.
[[File:cougar_man.jpg|thumb|230px|center|The female variants heard all the jokes. ''Art by Nora Potwora'']]
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Hatch cover

2023-01-06T07:47:25Z

Evilishies: Mason's workshop -> Stoneworker's workshop, updated keyboard shortcuts

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A '''hatch cover''' (also called a '''floor hatch''' or just '''hatch''') is, in effect, a [[door]], but controlling the passage between Z-levels instead of along the same Z-level. They can be placed over [[stairs]] or [[ramp]]s, or open space as long as they are supported by an adjacent floor tile.

Like doors, they can be linked with [[mechanism]]s, or locked, or kept tightly closed to keep out water, pets and foes alike. They can be set as internal, but as [[room]]s cannot occupy multiple Z-levels, this has no effect.

When closed, hatches appear as {{Raw Tile|¢|0:7:1}}; they are not visible when open. A hatch cover's color is determined by the [[material]] it is made from.

As [[building destroyer]]s can only destroy buildings on other z-levels under [[Building destroyer#Destroying from underneath|certain conditions]], hatch covers can be quite effective at keeping out enemies if used properly.

They can be constructed from a [[Stoneworker's workshop]], [[Metalsmith's forge]], [[Carpenter's workshop]], or [[Glass furnace]] from [[stone]], [[metal]], [[wood]], or [[glass]] respectively. Once built, they may be placed with {{k|b}}-{{k|p}}-{{k|h}}.

A dwarf falling down stairs will be stopped by a closed floor hatch. A dwarf standing on a floor hatch over stairs will not start falling if the hatch is opened. A dwarf standing on a floor hatch above a ramp or open space will start falling if the hatch is opened. While the falling dwarf may be able to climb to escape injury, he will drop any items he was hauling, possibly injuring dwarves below.

If a hatch cover is placed over a hole (natural or [[channel]]ed), a [[garbage dump]] designated on the hatch will cause items to be dumped in a pile on top of the hatch. If the hatch is subsequently opened (by means of a triggered mechanism), the items will fall into the hole. If the hatch is opened at the time of dumping, the items will be thrown directly into the hole.

If a garbage dump is designated ''next to'' a hole with a hatch cover on it, the behavior depends on the state of the hatch cover. If the hatch cover is not linked to a mechanism at all, items will be piled on the hatch cover. If the hatch cover is linked and opened, the items will be thrown directly into the hole. If the hatch cover is linked and closed, the items will be piled on the ground (in the garbage dump tile).

== Forging and Melting ==

* Metal hatch covers cost '''three''' [[metal]] bars to [[forge]], or '''nine''' [[adamantine]] wafers.
* When a non-adamantine metal hatch cover is [[melt|melted down]], it will return '''1''' metal bar, for an '''efficiency of 33%'''.
* When an adamantine hatch cover is melted down, it will produce '''1''' wafer, for an '''efficiency of 11%'''.

== Adventurer mode ==

Hatch covers are common building elements in generated [[dungeon]]s, [[lair]]s, and other structures. When placed above stairs, adventurers can use the ordinary stair-climbing commands {{k|<}} and {{k|>}} to traverse them. On the other hand, when placed above ramps—as is typical of lairs and towers in [[keep]]s and [[dark pit]]s—the player must instead use {{k|Alt}}-direction while standing adjacent to or directly under a hatch cover in order to pass through it. (Alternately, {{k|Ctrl}}-direction and {{k|Shift}}-direction may be used when above or below a hatch cover, respectively, as well.)

[[File:iron_hatch_cover.jpg|thumb|230px|center|An outside iron hatch cover.]]

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