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<p>Joejr50: Undo revision 152502 by Joejr50 (Talk)</p> <hr /> <div>I might write a story about my [[fun]] in DF later. But not now.</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=User:Joejr50&diff=152506 2011-08-19T17:17:04Z

<p>Joejr50: Undo revision 152503 by Joejr50 (Talk)</p> <hr /> <div>Okay, I feel like documenting an adventurer... I am (probably) rather crappy at adventuring, but losing ''is'' fun, right?<br /> [how do you out in a table of contents?]<br /> [something will go here in a few hours at most]<br /> [i don't really know how to use brackets either]</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=User:Joejr50&diff=152505 2011-08-19T17:16:22Z

<p>Joejr50: Undo revision 152504 by Joejr50 (Talk)</p> <hr /> <div>Okay, I feel like documenting an adventurer... I am (probably) rather crappy at adventuring, but losing ''is'' fun, right?<br /> <br /> [how do you out in a table of contents?]<br /> <br /> [something will go here in a few hours at most]<br /> <br /> [i don't really know how to use brackets either]</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=User:Joejr50&diff=152504 2011-08-19T16:22:33Z

<p>Joejr50: </p> <hr /> <div>Okay, I feel like documenting an adventurer... I am (probably) rather crappy at adventuring, but losing ''is'' fun, right?<br /> <br /> [how do you out in a table of contents?]<br /> <br /> [something will go here in a few hours at most]<br /> <br /> [i don't really know how to use brackets]</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=User:Joejr50&diff=152503 2011-08-19T16:22:18Z

<p>Joejr50: </p> <hr /> <div>Okay, I feel like documenting an adventurer... I am (probably) rather crappy at adventuring, but losing ''is'' fun, right?<br /> <br /> [how do you out in a table of contents?]<br /> <br /> [something will go here in a few hours at most]<br /> <br /> [i don't really know how to use brackets either]</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=User:Joejr50&diff=152502 2011-08-19T16:21:54Z

<p>Joejr50: </p> <hr /> <div>Okay, I feel like documenting an adventurer... I am (probably) rather crappy at adventuring, but losing ''is'' fun, right?<br /> [how do you out in a table of contents?]<br /> [something will go here in a few hours at most]<br /> [i don't really know how to use brackets either]</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31:Demon&diff=152501 2011-08-19T16:17:30Z

<p>Joejr50: Rated article &quot;Exceptional&quot; using the rating script</p> <hr /> <div>{{quality|Exceptional|16:17, 19 August 2011 (UTC)}}<br /> {{av}}<br /> {{spoiler}}<br /> ==Demons==<br /> <br /> Demons inhabit {{L|Hell}}. At this time it appears that they are randomly generated at worldgen, creating unique fun for every player. Examples of possible demons include giant centipedes made of ash that hunger for blood, eyeless mosquitoes that spit icicles, and emaciated fruitbats with giant clicking mandibles. Demons begin to spawn exactly one frame after you open Hell; the amount spawned can range from 10 to over 100. As long as Hell is unsealed, demons will continue to wander in from the edges of the map indefinitely, due to having populations that are apparently infinite.<br /> <br /> All demons share certain traits, however. They are represented by an ampersand (&amp;). They are all able to swim in and breathe water and magma, destroy buildings, speak and learn. Furthermore, they are immune to traps, pain, fear, nausea, stunning, exertion, dizziness, fevers, fire, any sort of poison, and extremes of heat and cold (even if made of materials that would suggest otherwise). They are very large (size 10000000, smaller than a megabeast, but significantly larger than a giant and 167 times the size of a dwarf). They don't require sleep, food, or drink. Many, but not all demons, are capable of flight. Inorganic or zombie demons are especially difficult to kill; literally tearing them apart (severing their lower and upper bodies) will kill them, but this is far beyond the capacities of an ordinary dwarf, and if the creature is a blob (whose lower and upper bodies are inseparable), it will be truly immortal. If you have deactivated compressed saves, the raws for given world's demons (as well as forgotten beasts and titans) can be found in the world.dat of its save folder.<br /> <br /> Certain types of demons, those described as &quot;being twisted into humanoid form&quot; and marked with [UNIQUE_DEMON] instead of [DEMON] in world.dat, will occasionally escape the underworld and earn/create statuses in goblin or human civilizations; among humans, they pose as gods, while they take over goblin civilizations through more direct means.<br /> <br /> ==Demon Generation==<br /> <br /> Although the exact algorithm used to produce demons is unknown, something of the algorithm can be gathered from the string dump and analysis of demons. When generating a demon, the game begins by picking a creature from a predefined list, which is fixed and includes creatures not found in vanilla DF (such as kangaroo, anteater, ankylosaurid) and more general shapes (blob, quadruped, and humanoid). It is granted spheres, with a preference for &quot;negative&quot; spheres like misery, death, and torture. If inorganic, a material will be chosen (such as salt, fire, ice, or vomit). If organic, it will get some sort of randomly-colored covering (such as feathers or hair) and/or have some feature (such as its eyes, nose or skin) removed. It will be granted a few &quot;extra&quot; features, like a tail, a trunk, or a shell, and a flavorful descriptor (such as &quot;it knows and intones the names of all it encounters&quot;). It may get some sort of special attack (such as a poisonous sting, toxic breath, fire breath). It will finally be given a name consisting of an adjective and a noun. The adjective will be based on the creature's color, its material (such as &quot;inferno&quot; or &quot;snow&quot;), what animal it's shaped like, or a descriptor (such as &quot;winged&quot; or &quot;skinless&quot;), and the noun chosen from the following list: demon, devil, fiend, brute, monster, spirit, ghost, banshee, haunt, phantom, specter, or wraith.<br /> <br /> ==Strategy==<br /> <br /> Of all of the challenges facing a player, defeating a demon horde is probably the most difficult.<br /> <br /> ===Containment===<br /> <br /> Containment is the simplest strategy for dealing with demons. A simple constructed wall will block any demon. Because of their building destroyer status, demons cannot be contained via locked doors. However, indestructible artifact-quality portals can stop them, as can bridges. It may be difficult to lure demons away from artifact furniture, should the area need to be accessed to reset a trap. If using bridges, be aware that any raising bridge that lands on a demon will deconstruct, and that demons can easily have internal temperatures greatly exceeding the melting points of steel or iron, leading to deconstruction as they pass over them. Because of their vast numbers, containment is an important part of any attempt to defeat them-- fighting two groups of 25 demons is much easier than fighting one group of 50.<br /> <br /> ===Traps===<br /> <br /> Because all demons avoid traps, trapping demons can be very difficult-- but not impossible. Demons become vulnerable to traps when they are webbed, so if you can find a way to get web onto your traps, the demons will be affected as any other creature (including your own dwarves!) would be.<br /> <br /> Alternatively, advanced triggered traps may be used. Demons do not set off pressure plates, but if you can contain them, retracting upright spikes, casting them into obsidian, or caving a portion of mountain onto them are all effective. Any plan involving these kind of traps must involve both a way to bait the demons to where you want them and a way to keep the demons where you want them. Tame animals appear to work well as bait, but need to be replaced as they're killed. Bridges can be used to contain the demons, but be wary of the risks of deconstruction as described above.<br /> <br /> Many traps need to be designed with the potential for extreme temperatures in mind. Obsidian trappers may find water used as the casting process boiling into steam before it contacts magma. Frequently, demons made of fire or steam explode on death, broiling nearby creatures and furniture. This effect can destroy upright spikes, leaving you with a trap chamber full of demons that you have no way to deal with. Demons do not destroy supports, but a hot enough demon may cause the destruction of nearby supports, just by virtue of the heat damage.<br /> <br /> ===Ranged Combat===<br /> <br /> Ranged combat sounds appealing, especially in the face of demons that explode with unimaginable heat upon death, but should be considered carefully. Most demons have vastly more powerful ranged attacks than marksdwarves have. Fire breath, deadly dust, and poisonous vapors are all common; a single exhalation of a deadly vapor can kill your marksdwarves before they can empty their quivers.<br /> <br /> Fortifications are appealing, as they can be dug directly into adamantine without ever exposing your fortress to a path to the demons, but be aware of reports that some demons may be capable of traveling through fortifications. More, demons with syndrome attacks may attack through fortifications even without a path, although they appear to do so less frequently than if they have a path.<br /> <br /> Still, should you isolate a group of demons that lack special attacks, marksdwarves can be very effective.<br /> <br /> ===Melee Combat===<br /> <br /> Demons can be very frightening melee opponents, as each one alone is nearly the size of a megabeast and extremely fast. That would be bad enough, but there tends to be pages of them rather than individuals. However, demons can still be defeated in melee combat.<br /> <br /> Despite their powerful attacks, many demons are made up of very flimsy materials, such as salt, snow, steam, or filth. A strong punch can decapitate creatures like this. Some demons, however, can be made of much harder materials, and it can be very difficult to bring down a demon composed of mineral or armor-quality metal. Blunt weapons can be reasonably effective against weaker material demons by severing limbs and body parts despite blunt status, but are not nearly as effective against demons as they are against earthly foes that suffer from pain and blood loss; without internal organs or blood loss, piercing weapons are relatively ineffective. Good slashing weapons can reliably take down demons of any material type.<br /> <br /> The challenge of melee combat is how to deal with an enormous number of strong combatants while protecting against area of effect syndrome attacks and death explosions. Restraining visibility via a labyrinthine battle ground is a good start. The area effects suggest meeting them with successive small waves of melee dwarves, but if the dwarves are too few, they'll be butchered by hundreds of angry demons before making a dent.<br /> <br /> ===Clean-up===<br /> <br /> Unfortunately, once the wave of demons has been dealt with, it's not yet over. Syndrome-bearing dust and blood may litter the battlefield and your survivors, and can be very difficult to isolate and contain. Some dwarves may carry burning items back from their encounters with very hot demons. Survivors should all pass through a shallow pool of water to wash them and their equipment of anything dangerous and to douse any flames. Any path used for the fight is best abandoned and walled up. Demons will continue to enter hell from its map edges, as wildlife do on the surface, but path differently from the initial wave, content to wander through hell even should a simple unobstructed path exist into your fortress.<br /> <br /> {{D for Dwarf}}<br /> Little do demons know that though their claws and fire cannot pierce the {{L|adamantine}} sealing them away, a simple {{L|copper}} {{L|pick}} can dig right through it with ease. Armok forbid these unholy creatures ever get their hands on one.<br /> <br /> [[ru:DF2010:Demon]]</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31_Talk:Honey_bee&diff=149796 2011-06-01T00:03:34Z

<p>Joejr50: /* Sting */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>Honey bee hives can spawn on the map even if there are no other hives when first embarking.<br /> <br /> == Sting ==<br /> <br /> One of my animals (specifically a stray yak calf) got stung by a honey bee. Any hints as to what this does? --[[User:Joejr50|Joejr50]] 00:03, 1 June 2011 (UTC)</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31:Wetland&diff=149692 2011-05-28T17:28:37Z

<p>Joejr50: Rated article &quot;Fine&quot; using the rating script</p> <hr /> <div>{{quality|Fine|17:28, 28 May 2011 (UTC)}}{{av}} <br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> &quot;When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built it all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. And that one sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, and then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Son, the strongest castle in all of England.&quot;<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> A '''wetland''' is a type of {{L|biome}}, flooded permanently or only periodically. Generally they have an abundance of {{L|plants|foliage}}, including heavy, specialized {{L|tree}}-growth and a vast ecosystem. The landscape is very flat, with only occasional, small gradients. {{L|Pond}}s are abundant. Wetlands tend to form around {{L|ocean}}ic coastlines, especially where {{L|river}}s meet the ocean.<br /> <br /> They generally have a high {{L|water}} table, meaning that an accessible {{L|aquifer}} is only a few tiles below the surface (and in occasionally unlucky circumstances, directly beneath the surface). It can be incredibly difficult to nigh-impossible to extract {{L|stone}}s from these areas, making the long-term feasibility of a fort doubtful; it is recommend that an additional, non-saturated biome be selected as well. The stratification is often hard to ascertain, as it is difficult to penetrate the aquifer. Generally there are a few layers of {{L|clay}} and {{L|loam}} followed, eventually, by stone and rock beneath.<br /> <br /> Wetlands with salt{{L|water}} make habitability more precarious, as the aquifer and surrounding ponds are not drinkable. The water first has to be {{L|Water#Salt_Water|desalinated}}.<br /> <br /> Specific categories of wetlands are '''marshes''' and '''swamps'''.<br /> The types of wetlands you will find are:<br /> <br /> * Temperate freshwater marsh<br /> * Temperate saltwater marsh<br /> * Tropical freshwater marsh<br /> * Tropical saltwater marsh<br /> * Temperate freshwater swamp<br /> * Temperate saltwater swamp<br /> * Tropical freshwater swamp<br /> * Tropical saltwater swamp<br /> ** Mangrove swamp<br /> <br /> <br /> == Temperate marshes ==<br /> (both freshwater and saltwater)<br /> <br /> === Wildlife ===<br /> <br /> ==== Creatures ====<br /> <br /> '''In temperate marshes appear:'''<br /> <br /> * {{L|Buzzard}}<br /> * {{L|Saltwater crocodile}}<br /> <br /> '''In savage temperate marshes appear:'''<br /> <br /> * {{L|Slugman}}<br /> * {{L|Snailman}}<br /> <br /> '''In evil temperate marshes appear:'''<br /> <br /> * {{L|Beak dog}}<br /> * {{L|Grimeling}}<br /> * {{L|Harpy}}<br /> <br /> ==== Vermin ====<br /> <br /> '''In temperate marshes appear:'''<br /> <br /> * {{L|Red-winged blackbird}}<br /> <br /> == Tropical marshes ==<br /> (both freshwater and saltwater)<br /> <br /> === Wildlife ===<br /> <br /> ==== Creatures ====<br /> <br /> '''In tropical marshes appear:'''<br /> <br /> * {{L|Saltwater crocodile}}<br /> <br /> '''In savage tropical marshes appear:'''<br /> <br /> * {{L|Slugman}}<br /> * {{L|Snailman}}<br /> * {{L|Tigerman}}<br /> <br /> '''In evil tropical marshes appear:'''<br /> <br /> * {{L|Beak dog}}<br /> * {{L|Grimeling}}<br /> * {{L|Harpy}}<br /> <br /> == Temperate swamps ==<br /> (both freshwater and saltwater)<br /> <br /> === Wildlife ===<br /> <br /> ==== Creatures ====<br /> <br /> '''In temperate swamps appear:'''<br /> <br /> * {{L|Alligator}}<br /> <br /> '''In savage temperate swamps appear:'''<br /> <br /> * {{L|Slugman}}<br /> * {{L|Snailman}}<br /> <br /> '''In evil temperate swamps appear:'''<br /> <br /> * {{L|Grimeling}}<br /> <br /> == Tropical swamps ==<br /> (freshwater and saltwater, as well as mangrove swamps)<br /> [[Image:Tropical freshwater swamp.png‎|thumb|right|A tropical freshwater swamp with some gorillas wandering along the brook.]]<br /> === Wildlife ===<br /> <br /> ==== Creatures ====<br /> <br /> '''In tropical swamps appear:'''<br /> <br /> * {{L|Gorilla}}<br /> * {{L|Saltwater crocodile}}<br /> * {{L|Tiger}}<br /> <br /> '''In savage tropical swamps appear:'''<br /> <br /> * {{L|Giant tiger}}<br /> * {{L|Slugman}}<br /> * {{L|Snailman}}<br /> * {{L|Tigerman}}<br /> <br /> '''In evil tropical swamps appear:'''<br /> <br /> * {{L|Grimeling}}<br /> <br /> {{Expand Topic}}<br /> <br /> {{World}}<br /> {{Category|World}}</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=User:Joejr50&diff=143079 2011-03-29T21:35:36Z

<p>Joejr50: Replaced content with 'I might write a story about my fun in DF later. But not now.'</p> <hr /> <div>I might write a story about my [[fun]] in DF later. But not now.</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=User:Joejr50&diff=143078 2011-03-29T21:04:18Z

<p>Joejr50: </p> <hr /> <div>I now start my personal saga of an adventurer. I am using game days for this. As I am very inexperienced in both story writing and adventuring, please excuse my poorly-written entries, and horribly &lt;s&gt;elven&lt;/s&gt; &lt;s&gt;goblin-influenced&lt;/s&gt; idiotic ideas. I am using v0.31.18.<br /> = Buzong Ustra =<br /> This is pocket world with very short history, very few civilizations, very many beasts, very many sites, and very high savagery. This'll be [[fun]].<br /> == Adventure #1 ==<br /> My name is Etram Smenrenepe. I am a human demigod outsider(yay!!! more [[fun]]!!), with superior strength, agility, toughness, and endurance, average recuperation, disease resistance, and focus, and very low everything else. I am a grandmaster spearman, with an emphasis on throwing. I'll train that eventually.<br /> === Day 1 ===<br /> I begin on the outskirts of tongspulls, a small, shopless settlement, with a copper spear and a large copper dagger. After talking to a potash maker, I learn that there is a bunch of horribly frightening things that would kill me to the west. I decide to try to bandit I was tasked to kill to the southwest. At least I ''think'' that wasn't where the bronze colossus was... After traveling through half the incredibly small world, I found the camp.<br /> <br /> I was expecting one maceman, like the potash maker said, not him plus two archers, an axeman and a lasher. Shows you how much experience I have. Nevertheless, I begin by throwing the dagger at the axeman. It hits an arrow shot from the guy behind him. I pick up some loamy sand and throw it at the second archer, the one nearer to the lasher. After seeing how dangerously close the axeman was, I ran away until I found some marble. I quickly found the pursuing axeman and lasher and threw the pebble at the axeman, only to find the announcements think the lasher dodged it. Hey, at least it would've hit a target if it wasn't moving, even if it was the wrong one. I then had the brilliant idea of recording the fight. I continually threw pebbles and dirt at them, pausing to run away when necessary. After a while, I accidentally stabbed the axeman. I decided it was for the best, and he died shortly afterwards of gaping holes in his brain. I continued throwing things at the lasher until I got his lung, and I decided to stab him too. That one didn't work. I kept throwing things. I got him weakened, discovered aimed attacks, and stabbed his brain too. Now for the much more deadly archers. Apparently I've gotten better, because after the second pebble the first archer gave in to pain. I then found my dagger I originally had thrown at the axeman. After more throwing, i moved in on the archer. As I went through the camp, a warlord started a conversation with me. He quickly introduced himself as he decided to kill me. Then the archers, brilliant as they were, discovered they had ''bows!'' I went up to the horribly injured archer and punched his head. His brain got crushed, thanks to my superior strength. Then the bandit I was assigned to kill appeared. As the remaining archer proceeded to watch in forget his bow, I threw a pebble through the maceman's head. The last person, the archer, rediscovered his bow and proceeded to give me the worst injuries of the fight as I punched his head. maybe I'll try for the heart on one of the next guys.<br /> :Loot:<br /> :Injuries:<br /> :Losses: copper spear<br /> <br /> I returned to the settlement and reported the news of the bandit's death, and got permission to stay for the night.</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=User:Joejr50&diff=142984 2011-03-28T21:34:32Z

<p>Joejr50: </p> <hr /> <div>I now start my personal saga of an adventurer. I am using game days for this. As I am very inexperienced in both story writing and adventuring, please excuse my poorly-written entries, and horribly &lt;s&gt;elven&lt;/s&gt; &lt;s&gt;goblin-influenced&lt;/s&gt; idiotic ideas. I am using v0.31.18.<br /> = Buzong Ustra =<br /> This is pocket world with very short history, very few civilizations, very many beasts, very many sites, and very high savagery. This'll be [[fun]].<br /> == Adventure #1 ==<br /> My name is Etram Smenrenepe. I am a human demigod outsider(yay!!! more [[fun]]!!), with superior strength, agility, toughness, and endurance, average recuperation, disease resistance, and focus, and very low everything else. I am a grandmaster spearman, with an emphasis on throwing. I'll train that eventually.<br /> === Day 1 ===<br /> I begin on the outskirts of tongspulls, a small, shopless settlement, with a copper spear and a large copper dagger. After talking to a potash maker, I learn that there is a bunch of horribly frightening things that would kill me to the west. I decide to try to bandit I was tasked to kill to the southwest. At least I ''think'' that wasn't where the bronze colossus was...<br /> <br /> After traveling through half the incredibly small world, I found the camp. I was expecting one maceman, like the potash maker said, not him plus two archers, an axeman and a lasher. Shows you how much experience I have. Nevertheless, I begin by throwing the dagger at the axeman. It hits an arrow shot from the guy behind him. I pick up some loamy sand and throw it at the second archer, the one nearer to the lasher. After seeing how dangerously close the axeman was, I ran away until I found some marble. I quickly found the pursuing axeman and lasher and threw the pebble at the axeman, only to find the announcements think the lasher dodged it. Hey, at least it would've hit a target if it wasn't moving, even if it was the wrong one. I then had the brilliant idea of recording the fight. I continually threw pebbles and dirt at them, pausing to run away when necessary. After a while, I accidentally stabbed the axeman. I decided it was for the best, and he died shortly afterwards of gaping holes in his brain. I continued throwing things at the lasher until I got his lung, and I decided to stab him too. That one didn't work. I kept throwing things. I got him weakened, discovered aimed attacks, and stabbed his brain too. Now for the much more deadly archers. Apparently I've gotten better, because after the second pebble the first archer gave in to pain. I then found my dagger I originally had thrown at the axeman. After more throwing, i moved in on the archer. As I went through the camp, a warlord started a conversation with me. He quickly introduced himself as he decided to kill me. Then the archers, brilliant as they were, discovered they had ''bows!'' I went up to the horribly injured archer and punched his head. His brain got crushed, thanks to my superior strength. Then the bandit I was assigned to kill appeared. As the remaining archer proceeded to watch in forget his bow, I threw a pebble through the maceman's head. The last person, the archer, rediscovered his bow and proceeded to give me the worst injuries of the fight as I punched his head. maybe I'll try for the heart on one of the next guys.<br /> :Spoils of the fight: several injuries, some armor, 4 levels of throwing, and a lost spear.<br /> <br /> I returned to the settlement and reported the news of the bandit's death, and got permission to stay for the night.</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=User:Joejr50&diff=142983 2011-03-28T21:33:36Z

<p>Joejr50: Day 1 of adventure 1 in my adventure story.</p> <hr /> <div>I now start my personal saga of an adventurer. I am using game days for this. As I am very inexperienced in both story writing and adventuring, please excuse my poorly-written entries, and horribly &lt;s&gt;elven&lt;/s&gt; &lt;s&gt;goblin-influenced&lt;/s&gt; idiotic ideas. I am using v0.31.18.<br /> = Buzong Ustra =<br /> This is pocket world with very short history, very few civilizations, very many beasts, very many sites, and very much savagery. This'll be [[fun]].<br /> == Adventure #1 ==<br /> My name is Etram Smenrenepe. I am a human demigod outsider(yay!!! more [[fun]]!!), with superior strength, agility, toughness, and endurance, average recuperation, disease resistance, and focus, and very low everything else. I am a grandmaster spearman, with an emphasis on throwing. I'll train that eventually.<br /> === Day 1 ===<br /> I begin on the outskirts of tongspulls, a small, shopless settlement, with a copper spear and a large copper dagger. After talking to a potash maker, I learn that there is a bunch of horribly frightening things that would kill me to the west. I decide to try to bandit I was tasked to kill to the southwest. At least I ''think'' that wasn't where the bronze colossus was...<br /> <br /> After traveling through half the incredibly small world, I found the camp. I was expecting one maceman, like the potash maker said, not him plus two archers, an axeman and a lasher. Shows you how much experience I have. Nevertheless, I begin by throwing the dagger at the axeman. It hits an arrow shot from the guy behind him. I pick up some loamy sand and throw it at the second archer, the one nearer to the lasher. After seeing how dangerously close the axeman was, I ran away until I found some marble. I quickly found the pursuing axeman and lasher and threw the pebble at the axeman, only to find the announcements think the lasher dodged it. Hey, at least it would've hit a target if it wasn't moving, even if it was the wrong one. I then had the brilliant idea of recording the fight. I continually threw pebbles and dirt at them, pausing to run away when necessary. After a while, I accidentally stabbed the axeman. I decided it was for the best, and he died shortly afterwards of gaping holes in his brain. I continued throwing things at the lasher until I got his lung, and I decided to stab him too. That one didn't work. I kept throwing things. I got him weakened, discovered aimed attacks, and stabbed his brain too. Now for the much more deadly archers. Apparently I've gotten better, because after the second pebble the first archer gave in to pain. I then found my dagger I originally had thrown at the axeman. After more throwing, i moved in on the archer. As I went through the camp, a warlord started a conversation with me. He quickly introduced himself as he decided to kill me. Then the archers, brilliant as they were, discovered they had ''bows!'' I went up to the horribly injured archer and punched his head. His brain got crushed, thanks to my superior strength. Then the bandit I was assigned to kill appeared. As the remaining archer proceeded to watch in forget his bow, I threw a pebble through the maceman's head. The last person, the archer, rediscovered his bow and proceeded to give me the worst injuries of the fight as I punched his head. maybe I'll try for the heart on one of the next guys.<br /> :Spoils of the fight: several injuries, some armor, 4 levels of throwing, and a lost spear.<br /> <br /> I returned to the settlement and reported the news of the bandit's death, and got permission to stay for the night.</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=User:Joejr50&diff=142980 2011-03-28T21:28:20Z

<p>Joejr50: </p> <hr /> <div>I now start my personal saga of an adventurer. I am using game days for this. As I am very inexperienced in both story writing and adventuring, please excuse my poorly-written entries, and horribly &lt;s&gt;elven&lt;/s&gt; &lt;s&gt;goblin-influenced&lt;/s&gt; idiotic ideas. I am using v0.31.18.<br /> = Buzong Ustra =<br /> This is pocket world with very short history, very few civilizations, very many beasts, very many sites, and very much savagery. This'll be [[fun]].<br /> == Adventure #1 ==<br /> I am a human demigod outsider(yay!!! more [[fun]]!!), with superior strength, agility, toughness, and endurance, average recuperation, disease resistance, and focus, and very low everything else. I am a grandmaster spearman, with an emphasis on throwing. I'll train that eventually.<br /> <br /> My name is Etram Smenrenepe.<br /> === Day 1 ===<br /> I begin on the outskirts of tongspulls, with a copper spear and a large copper dagger. After talking to a potash maker, I learn that there is a bunch of horribly frightening things that would kill me to the west. I decide to try to bandit I was tasked to kill to the southwest. At least I ''think'' that wasn't where the bronze colossus was...<br /> <br /> After traveling through half the incredibly small world, I found the camp. I was expecting one maceman, like the potash maker said, not him plus two archers, an axeman and a lasher. Shows you how much experience I have. Nevertheless, I begin by throwing the dagger at the axeman. It hits an arrow shot from the guy behind him. I pick up some loamy sand and throw it at the second archer, the one nearer to the lasher. After seeing how dangerously close the axeman was, I ran away until I found some marble. I quickly found the pursuing axeman and lasher and threw the pebble at the axeman, only to find the announcements think the lasher dodged it. Hey, at least it would've hit a target if it wasn't moving, even if it was the wrong one. I then had the brilliant idea of recording the fight. I continually threw pebbles and dirt at them, pausing to run away when necessary. After a while, I accidentally stabbed the axeman. I decided it was for the best, and he died shortly afterwards of gaping holes in his brain. I continued throwing things at the lasher until I got his lung, and I decided to stab him too. That one didn't work. I kept throwing things. I got him weakened, discovered aimed attacks, and stabbed his brain too. Now for the much more deadly archers. Apparently I've gotten better, because after the second pebble the first archer gave in to pain. I then found my dagger I originally had thrown at the axeman. After more throwing, i moved in on the archer. As I went through the camp, a warlord started a conversation with me. He quickly introduced himself as he decided to kill me. Then the archers, brilliant as they were, discovered they had ''bows!'' I went up to the horribly injured archer and punched his head. His brain got crushed, thanks to my superior strength. Then the bandit I was assigned to kill appeared. As the remaining archer proceeded to watch in forget his bow, I threw a pebble through the maceman's head. The last person, the archer, rediscovered his bow and proceeded to give me the worst injuries of the fight as I punched his head. maybe I'll try for the heart on one of the next guys.<br /> :Spoils of the fight: several injuries, some armor, 4 levels of throwing, and a lost spear.<br /> <br /> I returned to the settlement and reported the news.</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=User:Joejr50&diff=142968 2011-03-28T19:08:05Z

<p>Joejr50: Beginning my adventurer saga.</p> <hr /> <div>I now start my personal saga of an adventurer. As I am very inexperienced in both story writing and adventuring, please excuse my short entries and horribly &lt;s&gt;elfish&lt;/s&gt; idiotic ideas.</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=File_talk:Doors!.png&diff=135892 2011-02-10T01:24:44Z

<p>Joejr50: </p> <hr /> <div>==Privacy Shmivacy==<br /> &quot;Hey Urist. Don't mind me, just passing through.&quot;<br /> &quot;Magma burn it, Alåth, why don't you ever go through Umid's room?&quot;<br /> &quot;His room is not on the way to the alcohol stockpile, and you know it, Urist.&quot;<br /> &quot;Yeah, well. Still.&quot;<br /> &quot;No, the still is up by the forges.&quot;<br /> <br /> Lol. Epic.--[[User:Niggy|Niggy]] 09:31, 19 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> What version is this? --[[User:Joejr50|Joejr50]] 01:24, 10 February 2011 (UTC)</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31_Talk:Armor&diff=135881 2011-02-09T21:53:35Z

<p>Joejr50: /* Foreign Boots */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>==Armor raw changes==<br /> Main armor types have been renamed to &quot;breastplate&quot; and &quot;mail shirt&quot; respectively.<br /> Someone with some understanding of armor RAWs should work on the new page. I had to ask just to learn what the [STEP] tags did.<br /> <br /> Breastplates have no LBSTEP nor UBSTEP, and now have a simple [ARMORLEVEL:3] in place of all of the old modifiers. They also have no [VALUE] tag.<br /> <br /> :The community is still working on figuring out what all the different variables do(if anything there appear to be some placeholders in different parts of different raws), and how materials effect the results. The current best description is to say that, for armor, adamantine&gt;steel&gt;bronze(bismuth or not)&gt;iron&gt;=copper&gt;everything else and that adding more layers at least doesn't seem to hurt(except for weight/speed considerations). Some have gone a little further than that(http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=53571.msg1151052#msg1151052). --[[User:PencilinHand|PencilinHand]] 00:09, 11 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Having worked on the problem some I must point out that there is an important difference between having no LBSTEP or UBSTEP and having zero LBSTEP and UBSTEP. A lot of work still needs to be done, especially with regards to how materials work with armor. Also, could everybody remember to sign their work [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Dwarf_Fortress_Wiki:Community_Portal# like Zorro?] --[[User:PencilinHand|PencilinHand]] 06:20, 30 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> Extensive coverage testing of various armors and UB/LBSTEP reveals some buggy behavior:<br /> <br /> -The only way to protect [STANCE], [GRASP], [HEAD], or [UPPERBODY] parts (feet, hands, head, and upperbody) is with armor worn on them specifically(LOWERBODY parts may be protected by armor worn on the UPPERBODY as well as the LOWEBODY).<br /> <br /> -[LIMB]s (arms and legs) are correctly protected by armors, pants, gloves, and gauntlets with appropriate UBSTEP and LBSTEP values. For example, lower arms can be protected by body armor with UPSTEP &gt;=2 as well as gloves with LBSTEP&gt;=1.<br /> <br /> -Currently(31.03), the ONLY way to protect parts that are not [LIMB]s,[STANCE]s,[GRASP]s,[HEAD]s or [UPPER/LOWERBODY]s parts (such as facial features, toes, fingers, throat, vestigial wings, any cosmetic custom parts, etc)is by exploiting a bug. You need a robe, or a dress; an UPPERBODY armor with UBSTEP:MAX. Armor configured this way will protect all [LIMB]s that are do not qualify for LBSTEP coverage, as well as fingers and toes etc, but it will NOT protect, hands, feet, or heads. Gauntlets, boots, and helms currently protect hands, feet, and heads, but not fingers, toes, or facial features. This is both counter intuitive, and at odds with toady's comments on the subject.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Derigo|Derigo]] 05:15, 11 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> Whether or not we know the exact mechanics of the various STEPS, I have added them to the Armor Tables so we can at least have a reference to what armor has what. Also, they are now sortable by those #s, because that was really bugging me. <br /> <br /> Does anyone know what the BONE/LEATHER/ETC categories are tracking? Because I think it is a holdover from 40d, but I wasn't going to delete them until I knew for sure. --[[User:Flaede|Flaede]] 10:08, 20 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> === wooden armor ==== <br /> just curious -- how does it rate?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ==New armor layering rules==<br /> I added the new rules for layering armor. It is kind of complicated and I only typed it up so it will need to be presented in a more user friendly format at some point but it is past 2 am here so I am going to bed now. Also, we need to confirm that these rules hold for fortress mode. --[[User:PencilinHand|PencilinHand]] 06:20, 30 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I don't understand something--in the example, you say you can get 2x socks, 2x high boots. But if high boots have size 25 permit 15, how do you get the second pair on? Wouldn't the third rule be violated? &lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:74.104.157.229|74.104.157.229]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :I suspect he's accepting the fact that a dwarf has two feet - so he'd get one sock and one high boot on one foot, and one sock and one high boot on the other. But that's just my interpretation - I don't try and optimize my fortress-mode armoring any better than &quot;okay, high boots protect more than low boots, so I'll make those instead&quot;. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 07:41, 12 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Bugs==<br /> I just thought I'd point out the bar number bug is probably due to the fact that a steel bar is now 150 steel, much like cloth and thread. The smelting reactions require 150 units as input, but the forge reactions appear to be asking for number of bars instead of amount of metal. Input for a breastplate should then be 450 steel instead of 3. --[[User:Dapanman|Dapanman]] 22:00, 1 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I tested this by editing the raws; if you multiply all the material size tokens by 150 you get the correct results (breastplates take 3 bars, chain shirts/greaves take 2, etc). So a breastplate should have material size 1350. (And if you don't have enough, it will again misrepresent it as &quot;needs 450 bars&quot; but oh well.) You have to gen a new world though. [[Special:Contributions/96.224.166.17|96.224.166.17]] 02:27, 21 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Note that for optimal loadout in Fortress mode, be sure to select 'replace clothing' rather than 'over clothing' -- I tried to add breastplate, mail shirt and leather cloak to someone already wearing a shirt, and they'd just spin in 'Pickup Equipment' trying to overload themselves, swapping the mail shirt and breastplate. If you don't mind specifying every piece of garb in their uniform, it's easier if they start naked and you build up from there.<br /> <br /> ==Toga==<br /> i dont see these on the table, yet i can create them in the '[j]obs' menu, in the leatherworks, and in the clothier's shop in both cloth and silk. surely it should be on there?--[[User:DJ Devil|DJ Devil]] 15:23, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> :i also cant make robes or coats. did anyone check the accuracy of this page before it was put on here..?--[[User:DJ Devil|DJ Devil]] 15:30, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Dunno why you can't make robes or coats - for me, my leatherworks has robes as the third choice, coats at fifth, and yes togas at sixth. Cloth has 'em in the same order, and the same for silk. Not in a position to comment on their protective capabilities, me, but they definitely exist. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 16:43, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> :one possible reason could be that i'm still on 0.31.03, but i cant see that mattering too much - surely they didnt take any items out of that particular release which were in 40d, and then put it back in on 0.31.04? that'd be a bit bizarre.. but i cannot make robes or coats anywhere (i.e. not on the 'jobs' menu, or in the leatherworks, or in the clothier's). the list goes as such;<br /> * leather armour (only in the leatherworks)<br /> * dress<br /> * shirt<br /> * tunic<br /> * toga<br /> * vest<br /> * cloak<br /> * leggings (only in the leatherworks)<br /> * trousers<br /> * cap<br /> * helm (only in the leatherworks)<br /> * hood<br /> * glove<br /> * mitten<br /> * sock (only in the clothier's (both materials))<br /> * high boot (only in the leatherworks)<br /> * shoe<br /> very strange..--[[User:DJ Devil|DJ Devil]] 17:43, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> :The clothing objects you're able to make depend on your civilization - if you look, they're all in the raws. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 18:00, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::sorry, i dont quite understand. by 'civilisation', do you mean the race? i.e. goblin/human/dwarf? or do you mean specifically the settlement my town was created from? and in my raws it has robes and coats in the 'item_armor' file, along with togas, and the other stuff i CAN make.--[[User:DJ Devil|DJ Devil]] 18:15, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> :He does mean &quot;specifically the settlement&quot;, although the organization is not settlement-specific. Now that I look more closely, my leatherworks is missing &quot;shirt&quot; and &quot;vest&quot;, as is my clothier's shop. So yes, it varies depending on the civilization. You can get an idea of what your chosen civ has access to during the Embark phase. Just go to add a new item, and look at the Bodywear category. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 19:46, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I will edit the table to add togas and add a disclaimer about availability being based on civilization. --[[User:PencilinHand|PencilinHand]] 16:50, 12 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Metal raws concerning armor ==<br /> <br /> What raws are related to how good a metal is as an armor material? [[User:Richards|Richards]] 21:23, 21 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Article quality ==<br /> <br /> &lt;quote&gt;<br /> Exceptional Quality Articles have ALL of the following characteristics: <br /> <br /> Is properly categorized <br /> Has a decent amount of information (is &quot;complete&quot; for the purposes of new players looking for information<br /> &lt;/quote&gt;<br /> Source: http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Dwarf_Fortress_Wiki:Quality#Tattered#ixzz0vc6YZ2ES<br /> <br /> This article is mostly useless for a new play, badly formated for the information it does present, and utterly fails to give a wide range of information. how can this be &quot;exceptional?&quot;<br /> <br /> [[Special:Contributions/152.91.9.144|152.91.9.144]] 05:52, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Leather vs Chain vs Plate==<br /> <br /> Am I missing something, or is listing the distinction in the table between these types of armor an outdated concept? As far as I know, the game doesn't currently use these terms to categorize armor, and some of them don't even make sense anymore, like metal caps being categorized as &quot;leather&quot;. Surely the &quot;Armor Level&quot; column covers the concept comprehensively without causing confusion? --[[User:Soronhen|Soronhen]] 16:53, 15 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Human-sized armor ==<br /> <br /> Is there any issue with dwarves wearing human-made and human-sized armor pieces, e.g., &quot;large cap&quot;, &quot;large breastplate&quot;? (If dwarves can wear them, why can't they make them?) Elf-sized armor? And would humans be interested in elf-made armor pieces?<br /> It seems an obvious issue to ask about, but I haven't seen any answers... -- [[User:Maunder|Maunder]] 05:21, 26 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Any armor/clothing that is labeled as &quot;large&quot; or &quot;small&quot; cannot be equipped; thus, gear worn by {{L|Human}}s, {{L|Troll}}s, and {{L|Kobold}}s is useful only for melting or for trading. {{L|Goblin}}s and {{L|Elf|Elves}} are the same size as Dwarves, so your dwarves can wear them just fine. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 21:43, 27 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Adamantine dress and robe ==<br /> <br /> I verified that adamantine dresses and robes will protect everything except hands, feet, and heads. (Including toes, fingers, necks, and noses.) I believe that this makes adamantine robes the mose efficient use of the metal, granting near-immunity to piercing and slashing attacks. [[User:Decius|Decius]] 23:57, 7 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Changes in 0.31.17? ==<br /> <br /> I've just had a strike to a goblin toe deflected by his copper low boot. The article claims that it is impossible due to a bug. Recheck of armor coverage rules is in order.[[File:Foot_toe-deflected.png]]--[[User:Another|Another]] 16:37, 12 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :You must have updated to the latest version. 31.17 made toes and fingers covered by boots and gauntlets respectively.--[[User:Furlion|Furlion]] 17:24, 12 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Modding Gloves ==<br /> <br /> I'm working on a mod to be able to produce armor in adventure mode -- but I've hit a snag. Gloves of all sorts are in &quot;left&quot; and &quot;right&quot; pairs. I can't figure out the raws to stop producing &quot;cheetah leather glove&quot; as opposed to &quot;cheetah leather right glove&quot;. Anyone happen to know this? --[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 02:31, 27 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Growing attached ==<br /> One of my dwarves just grew attached his the left mitten. This means that armor probably can also be named like a weapon. I'll do mre research. --[[User:Blur|Blur]] 08:51, 27 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == quality of armor? ==<br /> <br /> I was wondering, how does the crafted quality of armor affect its performance in combat? --Mark 20:28, 21 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Foreign Boots ==<br /> <br /> I was preparing my military uniform, when it said high boots were foreign. They weren't foreign in my other save which is the same version. I have v.31.18. What's going on? --[[User:Joejr50|Joejr50]] 21:53, 9 February 2011 (UTC)</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31_Talk:Clothing&diff=135830 2011-02-08T00:25:41Z

<p>Joejr50: /* Process */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>== Article fixing ==<br /> This seems like a rather important article to be tattered. Anyone know what should go on this page? I'm thinking a bit about the industry to make clothes, and some information on how clothing degrades over time.<br /> * This article doesn't deserve it's current high rating without more information. I second the need for both of the above (at least a link to clothing industry), and I also suggest some info about the how clothing interacts with armor.<br /> * what clothing goes on which body part.<br /> <br /> == Discarded Clothing ==<br /> <br /> This article needs some words about what can and can't be done about discarded clothing lying all over the fortress.<br /> <br /> :Not difficult to handle if you are willing to use the d-b-h combination to hide it or d-b-d to dump. As well, if your dwarves own a chest, they will store clothing in it instead of leaving it about. Same goes for cabinets, I think, but am not sure. [[User:J|J]] 21:46 28 September, 2010.<br /> <br /> ::As far as I've seen, dumping doesn't work on owned items. Also, any suggestion to simply hide the item should probably include the caveat that hidden stuff can still be stolen (and, I'm guessing, can still interfere with building things on that square). Also, a dwarf that owns one chest can still leave his stuff around - I've had problems getting a dwarf that already owns a bedroom and cabinet to pull his socks out of the doorway until I assigned him a ''second'' room (with a second cabinet).[[Special:Contributions/202.156.10.234|202.156.10.234]] 06:30, 15 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm new to DF, but I'm finding worn-out clothes (X or XX) in my clothing bins when I trade, I assume dwarves are swapping their used clothes for new ones from the bins. Not all of my dwarves are doing this, so I'm not sure exactly what's going on, maybe it isn't them, or maybe they only do it if they have enough downtime. On a different note, maybe there can be some info about metal clothes in this article?--[[Special:Contributions/74.73.27.227|74.73.27.227]] 20:12, 6 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Note that items belonging to deceased dwarves may end up in the bins. If the departed had a spouse (not a lover) or a child, they inherit the owned stuff, but if not, it becomes community property (and gets stored in the stockpiles).[[Special:Contributions/202.156.10.234|202.156.10.234]] 06:30, 15 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == What do you make? ==<br /> <br /> What clothes do you make for the dwarves for when their old clothes wear away? [[User:Richards|Richards]] 19:17, 25 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Ownership ==<br /> What circumstances cause a dwarf to claim a piece of clothing? I have a cluttered workshop and piles full of clothes and naked dwarfs running around.<br /> :My dwarves will claim clothing when their old stuff decays, but they store it in their cabinets and run around naked also. Don't see anything about this mentioned on the bug tracker. --[[User:Octorok|Octorok]] 23:30, 4 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Process ==<br /> <br /> I have been playing DF for a long time now, but have never kept a fortress long enough to need new clothes. Now I have gotten much farther(108 dwarves) yet don't know how to make them. Can anyone tell me? --[[User:Joejr50|Joejr50]] 00:25, 8 February 2011 (UTC)</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31_Talk:Weapon&diff=135829 2011-02-08T00:16:11Z

<p>Joejr50: </p> <hr /> <div>==I broke his head with my shield while training==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused as to what happened exactly, but I saw this turn of events:<br /> <br /> 1. Mayor has tantrum<br /> 2. sheriff has tantrum<br /> 3. another dworf was doing some sort of training demostration with sheriff<br /> 4. sherrif hits mayor with wooden buckler(I think), mayor has brain damage and dies<br /> 5. &quot;another dworf&quot; dies from some unknown cause (I dont recall :S)<br /> 6. Tantrum ends<br /> <br /> My question is, did they only get killed because it was a tantrum, or is it possible to kill a dwarf during training, using a shield (As its not classed as a &quot;training&quot; weapon? --[[User:Djsmiley2k|Djsmiley2k]] 10:01, 27 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Thijser wants people to test things==<br /> A lot of tests should be put here<br /> http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/User:Thijser/Test so that we can gather as many results as passble. Maybe someone could put this on the basic page aswell. &lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:85.147.110.73|85.147.110.73]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Weight of the weapon ==<br /> {{L|Weight}} now seems to play a significant factor in determining a weapon's effectiveness. A weapon that is very light ''(made of {{L|adamantine}}, for instance)'' will not be as effective as a heavier one. This needs more research.<br /> -Moved discussion material to the discussion page<br /> [[User:Studoku|Studoku]] 03:03, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Unfortunately it is a great deal more complicated than just the weight of a weapon. If the weapon an edge(such as a sword or axe) then the shear values of the material used become important. On the other hand, mass seems to be much more important to blunt type weapons such as mauls and war hammers. But it isn't know exactly how any of this works. It is all very unbalanced right now anyway, partly because Toady intends to add item damage to the combat system in the &quot;soon™&quot;. Some of the counter intuitive quirks that are observed are because of the incomplete physical modeling. Some are bugs, others are design decisions that seem to stem from compromises in other parts of DF. Explanations of how the weapon/armor/wound system work from Toady are needed to understand what is going on, though a broad understanding may be possible on the basis of empirical testing. Regardless, extensive empirical testing is necessary to establish and test balance issues. It is all very much still a work in progress, especially given the current rapid rate of bug fix roll outs. It might not be a bad idea to start by creating creature like format pages for each of the weapons and materials, sense they are all in the raws now. -[[User:PencilinHand|PencilinHand]] 18:27, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Table of weapons? ==<br /> I propose a table of weapons on this page. The list of weapons from the raws follows. --[[User:StrongAxe|StrongAxe]] 16:28, 15 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_WHIP]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_BATTLE]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HAMMER_WAR]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MACE]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_CROSSBOW]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_PICK]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_BOW]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_BLOWGUN]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_PIKE]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HALBERD]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_2H]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_LONG]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MAUL]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_GREAT]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_DAGGER_LARGE]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SCOURGE]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_FLAIL]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MORNINGSTAR]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SCIMITAR]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_TRAINING]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT_TRAINING]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR_TRAINING]<br /> <br /> --I wholeheartedly second this suggestion. This was quite helpful for making a custom shop, so it should either be put here or in a page about item_subtypes. 14:14, 15 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == TRAINING WEAPONS ==<br /> <br /> The military system is bugged as hell right now, but given that, how are training weapons '''intended''' to work? It seems like dwarves treat training weapons exactly as any other weapon, and will only train with training weapons if manually equipped or part of their uniform. Is it possible to have dwarves train with wooden weapons and then make a quick switch to real ones in case of an attack without having to wait on the arsenal dwarf to sign off on the changes? -Slothen<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/99.96.100.228|99.96.100.228]] 19:54, 18 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :As far as I can tell, it's simply incomplete. The only real function you could have for them now is to have separate training squads equipped with them. They seem rather irrelevant considering that the only training I've seen my dwarves do is individual combat drill.[[User:The Architect|The Architect]] 02:26, 19 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> : There's a minor bug, wooden training axes can be used to cut down trees. --[[User:TomiTapio|TomiTapio]] 22:57, 12 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Foreign Weapons ==<br /> <br /> === MOODS &amp; FOREIGN WEAPONS ===<br /> <br /> I had a dwarf make a blowgun via a mood. Is this expected behaviour or a bug? Either way I think it should be noted that you can create foreign weapons via moods. [[User:EvilGrin|EvilGrin]] 23:28, 14 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> : I have seen this too: my strange mood weaponsmith made an iron scourge. I've reworded the opening sentence to reflect this reality. [[User:Timbojones|Timbojones]] 00:22, 29 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Did the dwarf had a certain affinity for blowguns or was he a blowgunner?--[[Special:Contributions/190.231.136.138|190.231.136.138]] 23:09, 12 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> === Wooden Weapons? ===<br /> Each time I get elven traders, they have wooden weapons and armour for sale. e.g wooden long swords and wooden breast plates.<br /> It doesn't say that they are training weapons either. But in the wiki here, it says that you can't get wooden weapons.<br /> [[Special:Contributions/219.89.205.8|219.89.205.8]] 05:45, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :If you read the notice on the Foreign Weapons section, you would know that those &quot;allowed materials&quot; are actually useless for unmodded dwarf mode. Since I don't think this page is about modding, I'll remove the materials. --[[User:Dree12|Dree12]] 16:28, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Wait, what? I've traded for wooden swords et al. from the Elves. Are you saying my dwarves can't use them in melee? If that's true, please include it in this wiki page. I presume they're usable in weapon traps? Please clarify. -- [[User:Maunder|Maunder]] 05:28, 26 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::You can USE them (if they're not too large, like pikes and halberds), you just can't MAKE them. In general, the &quot;made of wood&quot; bad trumps the &quot;non-dwarven types&quot; good, and you're better off with homegrown weaponry. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 05:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> === Can Dwarves Use These? ===<br /> I noticed that the 2010 version has no notes about dwarves not being able to use things like pikes, mauls, two-handed swords, and great axes. Has this changed since 40D? I get a lot of pikedwarfs. [[User:Aussiemon|Aussiemon]] 16:13, 11 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> : I think they can use pikes and other large weapons if you decrease the weapon's required-user-size. --[[User:TomiTapio|TomiTapio]] 22:57, 12 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ammunition for Ranged Weapons ==<br /> <br /> How can I make bolts. Or I should trade them instead? &lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Trepach|Trepach]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :As crossbow bolts are native dwarven weapons, you can make bone and wood bolts at a {{l|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}, or metal ones at a {{l|Metalsmith's forge|forge}}. Try looking at the page for {{l|Bolt}}s instead of just the generic Weapon page. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 16:14, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ranged Foreign Weapons ==<br /> <br /> === Poison on ammunition/weapons ===<br /> All the underground races wear only spears or blowguns. The blowgun darts poison the attacked creature. How? Cause they are poisoned. And the poison is on the BLOWDARTS! Just View them and look at the blowdarts. As far as I saw they have either cave spider venom or GIANT cave spider venom on them. So you can poison you weapons by dropping poison on them, but how? --[[User:Niggy|Niggy]] 18:37, 2 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Dwarves don't have that option. We can extract venom from phantom spiders and cave spiders, but we can't apply it to anything. See [[Extracts]]. &lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Illeist|Illeist]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> === Immigrant skills ===<br /> I've had immigrant dwarves with skills to use bows and blowguns. So I gave them appropriate weapons I traded or fought for. But I can't make nor trade for the ammunition? What? This should be considered a bug. Either let us make arrows/darts, or don't give dwarves the skills. -- [[User:Maunder|Maunder]] 05:38, 26 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Elves often have arrows. Humans sometimes do. Darts are more a cave civilization thing, and you can't trade with them. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 05:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == One-handed or two-handed? ==<br /> <br /> It would be helpful if it showed whether weapons were one-handed or two-handed on the wiki. I looked in the raws and on each weapon there seems to be a two-handed tag with an accompanying number. I would assume that number is the minimum size at which a creature can wield the weapon one handed, but I'm not 100% sure about that. Also, I recall some talk in the forums about whether there is a bonus to wielding some weapons two-handed, stemming from a test wherein speardwarves without shields fared better than speardwarves with shields.<br /> I'm not sure how the weapon's one handed versus two-handed status would be shown, as it appears to vary based on the race you are playing, but if it can be shown without too much confusion, I feel it would be for the better. A section explaining one-handed versus two-handed weapon use would be useful, if only to have it officially unknown what the effects are.<br /> [[User:Monkeyfetus|Monkeyfetus]] 21:17, 11 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Maces vs. Hammers ==<br /> <br /> They are both blunt weapons of same size, so what is the difference between the two?<br /> <br /> :Training with a warhammer increases the hammer skill, which is also used by marksdwarves when they run out of ammo and beat their enemies with their crossbows. If your weaponsmith has a preference for either weapon it makes sense to make that one. According to {{L|Item value}}, warhammers are worth twice as much as maces. But whether there's any difference in combat between the two weapons, I don't think anyone can yet say. If there's a difference it should be discernible by testing in the arena. [[User:Bognor|Bognor]] 07:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The raws for the two weapons are as follows<br /> &lt;code&gt;[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HAMMER_WAR]<br /> [NAME:war hammer:war hammers]<br /> [SIZE:400]<br /> [SKILL:HAMMER]<br /> [TWO_HANDED:37500]<br /> [MINIMUM_SIZE:32500]<br /> [MATERIAL_SIZE:3]<br /> [ATTACK:BLUNT:10:200:bash:bashes:NO_SUB:2000]&lt;/code&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> &lt;code&gt;[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MACE]<br /> [NAME:mace:maces]<br /> [SIZE:800]<br /> [SKILL:MACE]<br /> [TWO_HANDED:37500]<br /> [MINIMUM_SIZE:32500]<br /> [MATERIAL_SIZE:3]<br /> [ATTACK:BLUNT:20:200:bash:bashes:NO_SUB:2000]&lt;/code&gt;<br /> :I remember hearing that the only difference in the initial DF2010 release was the smaller contact area of the warhammer, but it appears that the size of the mace has increased since then. Now, the mace has twice the size (and therefore, mass and weight) as well as contact area of a warhammer. The mace is heavier, and may slow your troops down slightly more, but it should deliver the same force per square inch (or whatever unit you wish to use), and do it over a larger area, which I 'think' would make it more deadly. I'm not an expert on Dwarf Fortress combat, so if you want more detail or more reliable answers you could check out the forums. [[User:Monkeyfetus|Monkeyfetus]] 21:52, 27 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I just tested them in 0.31.12 in the arena by a mass melee of 18 macedwarves vs. 18 hammerdwarves, all of them decked out in bronze armor with an iron mace/warhammer, and each at &quot;skilled&quot; level in all basic (non-weapon-specific) combat skills along with &quot;skilled&quot; the appropriate weapon skill (mace/hammer). It ended with 12 hammerdwarves still standing and all macedwarves dead, and in a second test with 13 hammerdwarves still standing.<br /> :I went on to test similar setups (regarding armor, skill setup, and iron weapons) with the other weapons. Swords and axes were close with swords being perhaps slightly better, with spears, maces, and hammers doing better than either of those. Spears seemed like a bit of a wild card; mostly they would overwhelmingly lose against maces or hammers, but sometimes they would just about break even (once with 20vs20 spears vs hammers, only 2 hammerdwarves survived). So, from my testing, it seems to me that against armored opponents, the progression is something like: axes&gt;swords&gt;&gt;&gt;spears&gt;&gt;maces&gt;&gt;hammers. I did a quick unarmored test out of curiosity with swords vs hammers (I did give them shields, though), and it's perhaps no surprise that the swordsdwarves won pretty overwhelmingly in that case two times in a row (11 and 13 surviving, respectively). I ran 4 unarmored hammer vs. mace battles, and hammers won 3 out of 4 of those with around half surviving, with the fourth battle being barely won by maces. So without armor, hammers still seem to be the better weapon of the two, if not by as much. Then again, the RNG might have just been throwing me some crazy results the whole time. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 19:20, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :One can analyze the arena combat logs in a spreadsheet, by sorting the events (by &quot;,in the bodypart&quot; and &quot;,through the X armor&quot;) and counting successful and failing hits. Pretty easy to do 30 vs 30 test, the boring part is adding the armor to the dwarves. --[[User:TomiTapio|TomiTapio]] 22:57, 12 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == We dont have wooden training hammers but... ==<br /> <br /> Can't we use ammoless wooden xbows as hammers?--[[Special:Contributions/190.231.136.138|190.231.136.138]] 23:13, 12 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Dammit, that's brilliant! Dunno why I never thought of that. I don't think training weapons are necessary for sparring (sparring injuries are rare or absent in 0.31.12), but this trick could extend the time for hammerdwarves to beat unarmed goblins or whatever in live training. [[User:Bognor|Bognor]] 10:38, 13 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Artifact Weapons ==<br /> <br /> How does a weapon made in a mood affect the weapons effectiveness? Does it at all? Also when weapons are named what difference does this make?<br /> :Artifact weapons have the highest quality modifier, which AFAIK makes them hit more accurately and penetrate/cut more effectively than lower-quality weapons. I don't think naming a weapon changes its performance, just whether it's mentioned in Legends mode and in artwork. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 05:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Columns Mean Whatnow? ==<br /> The data in these tables is not useful to new players, and there is no discussion of how to interpret these tables. What is the tradeoff between a larger penetration and greater velocity? Why are some of the numbers in parentheses? --[[User:Romeofalling|Romeofalling]] 20:05, 1 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :You're right - the numbers aren't useful. That's because we don't know what the formulae are. Judging from the variables present, Toady seems to be trying to model the physics much more accurately than your average RPG; if you're really interested in optimizing your combatants that much, digging out some university-level physics texts and running through the sections on elastic collisions and material deformation would be helpful. The parentheses, at least, indicate that the value present in the raws is irrelevant - BLUNT attacks don't actually penetrate.<br /> <br /> :If you're just being confused by the big lists o' numbers, forget 'em and ask yourself if you want your dwarves to be waving around axes or spears or whatnot. Then make lots of your choice. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 01:16, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Actually, I'm trying to figure out if I should equip my Talented Lasher immigrant with the (+iron scourge+) and/or 3 (bronze whips) harvested from my first goblin ambush. I've also got 4 Knife Users - Talented, Professional, Adequate and Novice. No daggers yet, though. (You've already given valuable advice about the availability of arrows for my Novice Bowdwarf, DeMatt. Thanks for that.) Trying to get a sense of relative damage potential by the skill/weapon combos is....well, impossible, I guess, given that we don't have the formulae. Still, it's cool that dwarves can now wear goblin-forged armor. --[[User:Romeofalling|Romeofalling]] 02:07, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==obsidian==<br /> still like steel? &lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:99.130.202.198|99.130.202.198]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :No.&lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:68.203.1.164|68.203.1.164]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> ==ore/weapon==<br /> battle axe evidently needs 4 wafers. Short sword needs 3&lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:99.130.202.198|99.130.202.198]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Hammers==<br /> Since blunt weapons damage is related to the weight of the weapon would it make sense to make War Hammers out of a heavy metal. like lead if that is possible.&lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:198.53.163.246|198.53.163.246]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :Yes. Silver is the easiest to make them out of.&lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:68.203.1.164|68.203.1.164]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Material effectiveness? ==<br /> <br /> I've seen mentions of the different materials having &quot;Sheer&quot; and &quot;Density&quot; qualities that make them good for slashing/piercing and bludgeoning attacks respectfully, but I haven't seen any explanation, or even a list of which materials are better than others for each category. Can someone help me here? --[[User:Twilightdusk|Twilightdusk]] 02:20, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Not well no.&lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:68.203.1.164|68.203.1.164]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> ::You could try looking at [[DF2010:Metal#Weapon_.26_Armor_Quality|the Metal page]], and see if that helps you out. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 05:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Decorations ==<br /> <br /> This question has been popping up forever and given the absurd amount of decorations possible (especially on artifacts) I think it is rather important that we learn; do decorations increase weight for weapon effectiveness? Has anyone tested this?&lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:68.203.1.164|68.203.1.164]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :No, decorations don't weigh anything. I've got a slate door artifact with nine decorations, two of which are of reasonably weighty materials (iron and more slate), and it weighs the same as a plain slate door. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 05:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Preferences and Attachments ==<br /> <br /> I have a (Swords)dwarf who has not killed anything other than boredom, and only recruited for about 6 months now. Already he has grown attached to two steel items. A steel spear, and a steel shield. After checking the preferences, I found that he is fond of steel. Maybe preferences influences attachment speed?--[[User:CrazyMcfobo|CrazyMcfobo]] 01:22, 8 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == How about picks? ==<br /> <br /> I tried picks -vs- axes in the arena. It seems like picks are much better at armor penetration that axes. But how do you make a pick user skillful in the arena?<br /> <br /> Can you arm soldiers with picks? Do they use mining skill to attack?<br /> <br /> :Picks use the mining skill in combat. Your legendary +5 miner would be quite effective as early defense against goblins snatchers, kobold thieves and macaques. As a civilian skil, mining cannot be adjusted in arena mode. --[[User:Blur|Blur]] 18:46, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Named weapons ==<br /> I got three weapons named, one spear, one mace, and one ''shield''. The dwarf which named shield and mace liked the material they were made of. This could also be important. The namend weapons do not have a kill list anymore. --[[User:Blur|Blur]] 15:46, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Material Cost ==<br /> <br /> Can someone please add a list of how many bars/wafers every weapon needs to be made? It would be very helpful for me.--[[User:Joejr50|Joejr50]] 04:43, 6 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> :One. Currently, due to a (minor and possibly intentional) bug, every forge product requires only one bar/wafer. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 23:01, 6 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> ::Thanks. But for future reference,(as in when its fixed, if at all) how many is each ''supposed'' to use? --[[User:Joejr50|Joejr50]] 00:16, 8 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> ----</div>

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<p>Joejr50: /* Material Cost */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>==I broke his head with my shield while training==<br /> <br /> I'm a little confused as to what happened exactly, but I saw this turn of events:<br /> <br /> 1. Mayor has tantrum<br /> 2. sheriff has tantrum<br /> 3. another dworf was doing some sort of training demostration with sheriff<br /> 4. sherrif hits mayor with wooden buckler(I think), mayor has brain damage and dies<br /> 5. &quot;another dworf&quot; dies from some unknown cause (I dont recall :S)<br /> 6. Tantrum ends<br /> <br /> My question is, did they only get killed because it was a tantrum, or is it possible to kill a dwarf during training, using a shield (As its not classed as a &quot;training&quot; weapon? --[[User:Djsmiley2k|Djsmiley2k]] 10:01, 27 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Thijser wants people to test things==<br /> A lot of tests should be put here<br /> http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/User:Thijser/Test so that we can gather as many results as passble. Maybe someone could put this on the basic page aswell. &lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:85.147.110.73|85.147.110.73]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Weight of the weapon ==<br /> {{L|Weight}} now seems to play a significant factor in determining a weapon's effectiveness. A weapon that is very light ''(made of {{L|adamantine}}, for instance)'' will not be as effective as a heavier one. This needs more research.<br /> -Moved discussion material to the discussion page<br /> [[User:Studoku|Studoku]] 03:03, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Unfortunately it is a great deal more complicated than just the weight of a weapon. If the weapon an edge(such as a sword or axe) then the shear values of the material used become important. On the other hand, mass seems to be much more important to blunt type weapons such as mauls and war hammers. But it isn't know exactly how any of this works. It is all very unbalanced right now anyway, partly because Toady intends to add item damage to the combat system in the &quot;soon™&quot;. Some of the counter intuitive quirks that are observed are because of the incomplete physical modeling. Some are bugs, others are design decisions that seem to stem from compromises in other parts of DF. Explanations of how the weapon/armor/wound system work from Toady are needed to understand what is going on, though a broad understanding may be possible on the basis of empirical testing. Regardless, extensive empirical testing is necessary to establish and test balance issues. It is all very much still a work in progress, especially given the current rapid rate of bug fix roll outs. It might not be a bad idea to start by creating creature like format pages for each of the weapons and materials, sense they are all in the raws now. -[[User:PencilinHand|PencilinHand]] 18:27, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Table of weapons? ==<br /> I propose a table of weapons on this page. The list of weapons from the raws follows. --[[User:StrongAxe|StrongAxe]] 16:28, 15 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_WHIP]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_BATTLE]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HAMMER_WAR]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MACE]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_CROSSBOW]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_PICK]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_BOW]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_BLOWGUN]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_PIKE]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HALBERD]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_2H]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_LONG]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MAUL]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_GREAT]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_DAGGER_LARGE]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SCOURGE]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_FLAIL]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MORNINGSTAR]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SCIMITAR]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_TRAINING]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_SHORT_TRAINING]<br /> *[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SPEAR_TRAINING]<br /> <br /> --I wholeheartedly second this suggestion. This was quite helpful for making a custom shop, so it should either be put here or in a page about item_subtypes. 14:14, 15 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == TRAINING WEAPONS ==<br /> <br /> The military system is bugged as hell right now, but given that, how are training weapons '''intended''' to work? It seems like dwarves treat training weapons exactly as any other weapon, and will only train with training weapons if manually equipped or part of their uniform. Is it possible to have dwarves train with wooden weapons and then make a quick switch to real ones in case of an attack without having to wait on the arsenal dwarf to sign off on the changes? -Slothen<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/99.96.100.228|99.96.100.228]] 19:54, 18 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :As far as I can tell, it's simply incomplete. The only real function you could have for them now is to have separate training squads equipped with them. They seem rather irrelevant considering that the only training I've seen my dwarves do is individual combat drill.[[User:The Architect|The Architect]] 02:26, 19 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> : There's a minor bug, wooden training axes can be used to cut down trees. --[[User:TomiTapio|TomiTapio]] 22:57, 12 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Foreign Weapons ==<br /> <br /> === MOODS &amp; FOREIGN WEAPONS ===<br /> <br /> I had a dwarf make a blowgun via a mood. Is this expected behaviour or a bug? Either way I think it should be noted that you can create foreign weapons via moods. [[User:EvilGrin|EvilGrin]] 23:28, 14 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> : I have seen this too: my strange mood weaponsmith made an iron scourge. I've reworded the opening sentence to reflect this reality. [[User:Timbojones|Timbojones]] 00:22, 29 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Did the dwarf had a certain affinity for blowguns or was he a blowgunner?--[[Special:Contributions/190.231.136.138|190.231.136.138]] 23:09, 12 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> === Wooden Weapons? ===<br /> Each time I get elven traders, they have wooden weapons and armour for sale. e.g wooden long swords and wooden breast plates.<br /> It doesn't say that they are training weapons either. But in the wiki here, it says that you can't get wooden weapons.<br /> [[Special:Contributions/219.89.205.8|219.89.205.8]] 05:45, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> :If you read the notice on the Foreign Weapons section, you would know that those &quot;allowed materials&quot; are actually useless for unmodded dwarf mode. Since I don't think this page is about modding, I'll remove the materials. --[[User:Dree12|Dree12]] 16:28, 5 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Wait, what? I've traded for wooden swords et al. from the Elves. Are you saying my dwarves can't use them in melee? If that's true, please include it in this wiki page. I presume they're usable in weapon traps? Please clarify. -- [[User:Maunder|Maunder]] 05:28, 26 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::You can USE them (if they're not too large, like pikes and halberds), you just can't MAKE them. In general, the &quot;made of wood&quot; bad trumps the &quot;non-dwarven types&quot; good, and you're better off with homegrown weaponry. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 05:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> === Can Dwarves Use These? ===<br /> I noticed that the 2010 version has no notes about dwarves not being able to use things like pikes, mauls, two-handed swords, and great axes. Has this changed since 40D? I get a lot of pikedwarfs. [[User:Aussiemon|Aussiemon]] 16:13, 11 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> : I think they can use pikes and other large weapons if you decrease the weapon's required-user-size. --[[User:TomiTapio|TomiTapio]] 22:57, 12 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ammunition for Ranged Weapons ==<br /> <br /> How can I make bolts. Or I should trade them instead? &lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Trepach|Trepach]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :As crossbow bolts are native dwarven weapons, you can make bone and wood bolts at a {{l|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}, or metal ones at a {{l|Metalsmith's forge|forge}}. Try looking at the page for {{l|Bolt}}s instead of just the generic Weapon page. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 16:14, 14 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ranged Foreign Weapons ==<br /> <br /> === Poison on ammunition/weapons ===<br /> All the underground races wear only spears or blowguns. The blowgun darts poison the attacked creature. How? Cause they are poisoned. And the poison is on the BLOWDARTS! Just View them and look at the blowdarts. As far as I saw they have either cave spider venom or GIANT cave spider venom on them. So you can poison you weapons by dropping poison on them, but how? --[[User:Niggy|Niggy]] 18:37, 2 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Dwarves don't have that option. We can extract venom from phantom spiders and cave spiders, but we can't apply it to anything. See [[Extracts]]. &lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Illeist|Illeist]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> === Immigrant skills ===<br /> I've had immigrant dwarves with skills to use bows and blowguns. So I gave them appropriate weapons I traded or fought for. But I can't make nor trade for the ammunition? What? This should be considered a bug. Either let us make arrows/darts, or don't give dwarves the skills. -- [[User:Maunder|Maunder]] 05:38, 26 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Elves often have arrows. Humans sometimes do. Darts are more a cave civilization thing, and you can't trade with them. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 05:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == One-handed or two-handed? ==<br /> <br /> It would be helpful if it showed whether weapons were one-handed or two-handed on the wiki. I looked in the raws and on each weapon there seems to be a two-handed tag with an accompanying number. I would assume that number is the minimum size at which a creature can wield the weapon one handed, but I'm not 100% sure about that. Also, I recall some talk in the forums about whether there is a bonus to wielding some weapons two-handed, stemming from a test wherein speardwarves without shields fared better than speardwarves with shields.<br /> I'm not sure how the weapon's one handed versus two-handed status would be shown, as it appears to vary based on the race you are playing, but if it can be shown without too much confusion, I feel it would be for the better. A section explaining one-handed versus two-handed weapon use would be useful, if only to have it officially unknown what the effects are.<br /> [[User:Monkeyfetus|Monkeyfetus]] 21:17, 11 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Maces vs. Hammers ==<br /> <br /> They are both blunt weapons of same size, so what is the difference between the two?<br /> <br /> :Training with a warhammer increases the hammer skill, which is also used by marksdwarves when they run out of ammo and beat their enemies with their crossbows. If your weaponsmith has a preference for either weapon it makes sense to make that one. According to {{L|Item value}}, warhammers are worth twice as much as maces. But whether there's any difference in combat between the two weapons, I don't think anyone can yet say. If there's a difference it should be discernible by testing in the arena. [[User:Bognor|Bognor]] 07:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The raws for the two weapons are as follows<br /> &lt;code&gt;[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_HAMMER_WAR]<br /> [NAME:war hammer:war hammers]<br /> [SIZE:400]<br /> [SKILL:HAMMER]<br /> [TWO_HANDED:37500]<br /> [MINIMUM_SIZE:32500]<br /> [MATERIAL_SIZE:3]<br /> [ATTACK:BLUNT:10:200:bash:bashes:NO_SUB:2000]&lt;/code&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> &lt;code&gt;[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_MACE]<br /> [NAME:mace:maces]<br /> [SIZE:800]<br /> [SKILL:MACE]<br /> [TWO_HANDED:37500]<br /> [MINIMUM_SIZE:32500]<br /> [MATERIAL_SIZE:3]<br /> [ATTACK:BLUNT:20:200:bash:bashes:NO_SUB:2000]&lt;/code&gt;<br /> :I remember hearing that the only difference in the initial DF2010 release was the smaller contact area of the warhammer, but it appears that the size of the mace has increased since then. Now, the mace has twice the size (and therefore, mass and weight) as well as contact area of a warhammer. The mace is heavier, and may slow your troops down slightly more, but it should deliver the same force per square inch (or whatever unit you wish to use), and do it over a larger area, which I 'think' would make it more deadly. I'm not an expert on Dwarf Fortress combat, so if you want more detail or more reliable answers you could check out the forums. [[User:Monkeyfetus|Monkeyfetus]] 21:52, 27 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I just tested them in 0.31.12 in the arena by a mass melee of 18 macedwarves vs. 18 hammerdwarves, all of them decked out in bronze armor with an iron mace/warhammer, and each at &quot;skilled&quot; level in all basic (non-weapon-specific) combat skills along with &quot;skilled&quot; the appropriate weapon skill (mace/hammer). It ended with 12 hammerdwarves still standing and all macedwarves dead, and in a second test with 13 hammerdwarves still standing.<br /> :I went on to test similar setups (regarding armor, skill setup, and iron weapons) with the other weapons. Swords and axes were close with swords being perhaps slightly better, with spears, maces, and hammers doing better than either of those. Spears seemed like a bit of a wild card; mostly they would overwhelmingly lose against maces or hammers, but sometimes they would just about break even (once with 20vs20 spears vs hammers, only 2 hammerdwarves survived). So, from my testing, it seems to me that against armored opponents, the progression is something like: axes&gt;swords&gt;&gt;&gt;spears&gt;&gt;maces&gt;&gt;hammers. I did a quick unarmored test out of curiosity with swords vs hammers (I did give them shields, though), and it's perhaps no surprise that the swordsdwarves won pretty overwhelmingly in that case two times in a row (11 and 13 surviving, respectively). I ran 4 unarmored hammer vs. mace battles, and hammers won 3 out of 4 of those with around half surviving, with the fourth battle being barely won by maces. So without armor, hammers still seem to be the better weapon of the two, if not by as much. Then again, the RNG might have just been throwing me some crazy results the whole time. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 19:20, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> :One can analyze the arena combat logs in a spreadsheet, by sorting the events (by &quot;,in the bodypart&quot; and &quot;,through the X armor&quot;) and counting successful and failing hits. Pretty easy to do 30 vs 30 test, the boring part is adding the armor to the dwarves. --[[User:TomiTapio|TomiTapio]] 22:57, 12 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == We dont have wooden training hammers but... ==<br /> <br /> Can't we use ammoless wooden xbows as hammers?--[[Special:Contributions/190.231.136.138|190.231.136.138]] 23:13, 12 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Dammit, that's brilliant! Dunno why I never thought of that. I don't think training weapons are necessary for sparring (sparring injuries are rare or absent in 0.31.12), but this trick could extend the time for hammerdwarves to beat unarmed goblins or whatever in live training. [[User:Bognor|Bognor]] 10:38, 13 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Artifact Weapons ==<br /> <br /> How does a weapon made in a mood affect the weapons effectiveness? Does it at all? Also when weapons are named what difference does this make?<br /> :Artifact weapons have the highest quality modifier, which AFAIK makes them hit more accurately and penetrate/cut more effectively than lower-quality weapons. I don't think naming a weapon changes its performance, just whether it's mentioned in Legends mode and in artwork. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 05:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Columns Mean Whatnow? ==<br /> The data in these tables is not useful to new players, and there is no discussion of how to interpret these tables. What is the tradeoff between a larger penetration and greater velocity? Why are some of the numbers in parentheses? --[[User:Romeofalling|Romeofalling]] 20:05, 1 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> :You're right - the numbers aren't useful. That's because we don't know what the formulae are. Judging from the variables present, Toady seems to be trying to model the physics much more accurately than your average RPG; if you're really interested in optimizing your combatants that much, digging out some university-level physics texts and running through the sections on elastic collisions and material deformation would be helpful. The parentheses, at least, indicate that the value present in the raws is irrelevant - BLUNT attacks don't actually penetrate.<br /> <br /> :If you're just being confused by the big lists o' numbers, forget 'em and ask yourself if you want your dwarves to be waving around axes or spears or whatnot. Then make lots of your choice. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 01:16, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Actually, I'm trying to figure out if I should equip my Talented Lasher immigrant with the (+iron scourge+) and/or 3 (bronze whips) harvested from my first goblin ambush. I've also got 4 Knife Users - Talented, Professional, Adequate and Novice. No daggers yet, though. (You've already given valuable advice about the availability of arrows for my Novice Bowdwarf, DeMatt. Thanks for that.) Trying to get a sense of relative damage potential by the skill/weapon combos is....well, impossible, I guess, given that we don't have the formulae. Still, it's cool that dwarves can now wear goblin-forged armor. --[[User:Romeofalling|Romeofalling]] 02:07, 2 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==obsidian==<br /> still like steel? &lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:99.130.202.198|99.130.202.198]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :No.&lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:68.203.1.164|68.203.1.164]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> ==ore/weapon==<br /> battle axe evidently needs 4 wafers. Short sword needs 3&lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:99.130.202.198|99.130.202.198]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Hammers==<br /> Since blunt weapons damage is related to the weight of the weapon would it make sense to make War Hammers out of a heavy metal. like lead if that is possible.&lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:198.53.163.246|198.53.163.246]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :Yes. Silver is the easiest to make them out of.&lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:68.203.1.164|68.203.1.164]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> == Material effectiveness? ==<br /> <br /> I've seen mentions of the different materials having &quot;Sheer&quot; and &quot;Density&quot; qualities that make them good for slashing/piercing and bludgeoning attacks respectfully, but I haven't seen any explanation, or even a list of which materials are better than others for each category. Can someone help me here? --[[User:Twilightdusk|Twilightdusk]] 02:20, 29 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Not well no.&lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:68.203.1.164|68.203.1.164]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> ::You could try looking at [[DF2010:Metal#Weapon_.26_Armor_Quality|the Metal page]], and see if that helps you out. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 05:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Decorations ==<br /> <br /> This question has been popping up forever and given the absurd amount of decorations possible (especially on artifacts) I think it is rather important that we learn; do decorations increase weight for weapon effectiveness? Has anyone tested this?&lt;small&gt;&amp;ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:68.203.1.164|68.203.1.164]]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :No, decorations don't weigh anything. I've got a slate door artifact with nine decorations, two of which are of reasonably weighty materials (iron and more slate), and it weighs the same as a plain slate door. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 05:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Preferences and Attachments ==<br /> <br /> I have a (Swords)dwarf who has not killed anything other than boredom, and only recruited for about 6 months now. Already he has grown attached to two steel items. A steel spear, and a steel shield. After checking the preferences, I found that he is fond of steel. Maybe preferences influences attachment speed?--[[User:CrazyMcfobo|CrazyMcfobo]] 01:22, 8 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == How about picks? ==<br /> <br /> I tried picks -vs- axes in the arena. It seems like picks are much better at armor penetration that axes. But how do you make a pick user skillful in the arena?<br /> <br /> Can you arm soldiers with picks? Do they use mining skill to attack?<br /> <br /> :Picks use the mining skill in combat. Your legendary +5 miner would be quite effective as early defense against goblins snatchers, kobold thieves and macaques. As a civilian skil, mining cannot be adjusted in arena mode. --[[User:Blur|Blur]] 18:46, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Named weapons ==<br /> I got three weapons named, one spear, one mace, and one ''shield''. The dwarf which named shield and mace liked the material they were made of. This could also be important. The namend weapons do not have a kill list anymore. --[[User:Blur|Blur]] 15:46, 26 December 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Material Cost ==<br /> <br /> Can someone please add a list of how many bars/wafers every weapon needs to be made? It would be very helpful for me.--[[User:Joejr50|Joejr50]] 04:43, 6 February 2011 (UTC)</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31_Talk:Figurine&diff=135719 2011-02-05T21:39:41Z

<p>Joejr50: </p> <hr /> <div>== Inspiration ==<br /> <br /> What does it mean by &quot;inspiration&quot;? I have ideas, but it still doesn't make much sense.--[[User:Joejr50|Joejr50]] 21:39, 5 February 2011 (UTC)</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31_Talk:Figurine&diff=135718 2011-02-05T21:38:49Z

<p>Joejr50: Inspiration</p> <hr /> <div>== Inspiration ==<br /> <br /> What does it mean by &quot;inspiration&quot;? I have ideas, but it still doesn't make much sense.</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31_Talk:Known_bugs_and_issues&diff=135700 2011-02-04T22:53:44Z

<p>Joejr50: /* More equipment stuff */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>==Submerged fortifications==<br /> Submerged fortifications will not block the passage of aquatic (or amphibious) creatures. I didn't check .17 but it's still present in .16 The bug was present in 40d as well. Strangely enough it's not listed here. Is it reported on bugtracker? --[[User:HYBRID BEING|HYBRID BEING]] 22:16, 21 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I've already mentioned this on the page for {{L|fortification}} - incidentally, it's already reported on the bug tracker ({{bug|3327}}). --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 23:01, 21 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===bug tracker is confusing==<br /> please explain how to use it.<br /> <br /> ==Cleanup Edit==<br /> Ok, I just cleaned up the main page as best I could. Merged duplicate reports, made formatting consistent, found a bunch of mantis links, tried to combine comments, etc. I'm sorry I removed a lot of comments, but I don't have the time to copy them all to the talk page myself. If you would like to continue a previous discussion, I'd suggest opening the older version and copy-pasting the relevant part onto the '''talk''' page so that it won't clutter up the main page. Also, it's probably a good idea to keep most of the bug discussion on the Bug Tracker itself, and merely provide a link to the tracker entry. That way people can still look deeper into a particular bug, but they'll be able to have an overview of the bugs on this page.<br /> <br /> Just my two cents, if the community feels that this cleanup was uneeded or overzealous you are welcome to revert (though I did find a lot of mantis links, so you may want to merge those in.) --[[User:Kyle Solo|Kyle Solo]] 17:25, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Guidelines?==<br /> What exactly are the guidelines for editing this page? It's a mess of rumors, speculation, and not-bugs. Anyone trying to see if the behavior they are encountering is a bug has to wade through user comments. It's really messy the way it is now, and it's only going to get worse as more versions are released.<br /> My suggestions:<br /> *Remove/condense the comments and add a (Fixed in (df version that the bug was fixed in) (mantis/forum link)) after them.<br /> *The Not Bugs section should only contain behaviors which MANY players think are bugs, but are actually intended features or merely difficult to understand. They shouldn't contain discussions or lengthy decriptions, instead, link them to the relevant article that explains the behavior.<br /> *Move/keep the discussion of the bugs on the talk page and have the main page contain only descriptions of the bugs and workarounds.<br /> <br /> Sound like a plan? --[[User:Kyle Solo|Kyle Solo]] 14:48, 7 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Where to Report Crashes?==<br /> It's been a long while since I used this wiki... where can I report a crash bug other than the official site (which is down)? The details: Opened the new version of Dwarf Fortress fullscreen, and it froze up during the opening sequence, when the dwarf at the end is peering through the hole. [[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 15:19, 1 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> * Further information: started it in non-fullscreen mode and it worked fine. Now seeing if the fullscreen crash happens again or if it was just the fact that I was posting a Livejournal comment in the background... or possibly a first-time initialization that I'll be unable to reproduce. :P [[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 15:27, 1 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> * And it did NOT reproduce. Great. [[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 15:29, 1 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> *http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/login_page.php is the new bug reporting tool. [[User:Enjia2000|Enjia2000]] 15:31, 1 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> * Just putting this down here while the above site is non-responsive:<br /> ** World gen roads are off, sometimes they'll have floor above ramps, which prevent passage<br /> ** Vermin remains do not decay [[User:Todestool|Todestool]] 19:53, 1 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Acid Rain Bug==<br /> Rarely, it will rain, and any dwarves caught outside in that rain will start MELTING, and bleed to death very quickly. There are no messages before &quot;______ has bled to death&quot;, so it seems like they just start melting and don't even care. This happens to animals and dwarves.<br /> http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/964/iwillsurvive.png<br /> Unknown cause.<br /> :I managed to catch one of my dwarves just before it died of blood loss. It looks like it only happens to their fingers?<br /> <br /> <br /> :By rarely you mean 'not every time it rains'? I'm in a jungle, it's raining half the time, but I haven't seen these issues. Could it be a new 'feature'? Could it be a reaction between the water and something your dwarves are playing in? (Do your other dwarves have contaminents listed on their hands, and does soaking them by other means cause issues?) Just some thoughts [[User:Granite26|Granite26]] 13:16, 9 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I've read that in 'Scorching' climates the rain will reach boiling temperatures as it falls, melting the dwarves/creatures as it hits them. Seems to be a part of the new steam/frost addition Toady mentioned.<br /> <br /> :::I think I was only in a 'Warm' climate though.<br /> <br /> ==Labor Menu Bug==<br /> Sometimes only four categories will show up under {{k|v}},{{k|p}},{{k|l}}. If this occurs the game is very unplayable since dwarves cannot be assigned most labors. I have seen this bug myself but am so far unable to reliably reproduce it. With the bug I saw the following list. [[User:Doctorzuber|Doctorzuber]] 20:55, 1 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *Mining<br /> *Healthcare<br /> *Hauling<br /> *Other Jobs<br /> <br /> The correct list should be. <br /> <br /> *Mining<br /> *Woodworking<br /> *Stoneworking<br /> *Hunting/Related<br /> *Healthcare<br /> *Farming/Related<br /> *Fishing/Related<br /> *Metalsmithing<br /> *Jewelry<br /> *Crafts<br /> *Engineering<br /> *Hauling<br /> *Other Jobs<br /> <br /> Most of these menus also have sub-menus now as well. I am unsure if it is relevant but when I only saw four labor groups I also saw absolutely nothing in the nobles menu. If anyone can figure out how to reproduce this one please speak up. [[User:Doctorzuber|Doctorzuber]] 20:55, 1 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> *I'm not sure if this helps, but I've just suffered from the same bug. Can't assign any jobs except those catagories. If you give them skills in the embark screen they still do it fine. Also, as you said, my nobles screen is completely blank too. Not too sure what I did to produce this though, unfortunately, but I'll see if I can reproduce it.--[[User:Sepheris|Sepheris]] 10:00, 28 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Couple things. In legends, there's a skin monster who's called the [adjective] of , skin monster. Need to fill that in.<br /> Also, undiscovered items can be seen in the stocks menu.<br /> <br /> == Clarifications ==<br /> * When you see the Pets twice on the embark menu, I believe this is due to the fact the game is showing the difference between male and female. Therefore you can purchase 1male dog and 4 female dogs if you wish. This may be the same reason that fish show up twice but I cannot determine if this is the case or not. [[User:Kataklistika|Kataklistika]] 06:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> *Added a note that animal bones work for the &quot;body parts&quot; request from fey dwarves. Seems to be a summary of material types and not quite as shocking as it sounds, and suggest this to be changed to &quot;not a bug&quot; if there are no further problems. --[[User:Ashmore|Ashmore]] 19:54, 4 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Minor points and addition ==<br /> <br /> Hi!<br /> <br /> So, we are not supposed to edit the article directly, or how are we to interpret the screening.<br /> :Feel free to add new bugs to the main page with &quot;(confirm)&quot; after it. Confirmations could (should?) be kept to the talk page, but people seem to be filling in the main page instead, which works. This page will need some reformatting eventually anyway. --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 08:01, 4 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Anyway, there are a few things I feel need to be added/corrected:<br /> <br /> Farming on soil is only broken for underground farming. Surface farming gets an unnecessary warning but works fine.<br /> :I like how it's broken. It actually makes some sense from a biological standpoint... Above-ground tiles get enough water from rain for plants to grow, but underground soil never gets water unless it's irrigated, after which the silt left behind dries out slowly (if at all) due to being confined underground. In fact, it could be chalked up to the quirky subterranean biome that grows underground... the biome evolved to use excess water and reactions between chemicals present in runoff as a substitute for sunlight. They can't even grow in any location that's ever been touched by sunlight, because poisonous sunlight-adapted spores and molds will set up shop and devour the seeds of anything edible you plant. As for why your dwarves will track in wild subterranean nethercap spores but not the outdoor spores, or why water and magma evaporate but mud never dries... hey, it's just a game.<br /> <br /> Vermin remains do not decay because they are made of chitin or bone which do not rot. Footkerchief explained that in some thread (sorry, I forgot to mark that).<br /> <br /> Skeletons can be turned into bones and skulls at the butcher shop. I have automatic butcher shop activated, and suddenly, my butcher dragged off a deer corpse that had decayed into the butcher shop and do the conversion. Unfortunately, I forgot to check what the job was called. I have not found a way to order that (nothing in the butcher shop menu seems to work). Animals slaughtered do not yield skeletons but bones and skulls as always.<br /> <br /> I have also found butchering wild animals for meat to be impossible. At least deers and foxes not killed by a hunter have been left to rot without any butcher animal job spawned in the butchery and any manual butcher job gets a standard error message.<br /> <br /> Deathworks<br /> :Previously (40d) you had to train wild animals and then have them butchered. If you tried to butcher them without training them, the dwarf would release the creature from the cage and then run away because the animal was wild. Also, if the animal was killed elsewhere (say by a caravan) then the refuse orders need to be modified to collect refuse from outside. Then the dwarfs will bring it to a refuse pile, which will spawn a &quot;butcher animal&quot; job. In 40d I was being attacked by Orcs on beak dogs, and the dogs were butchered after every battle.<br /> :Currently, I am not able to train wild animals at all. I haven't checked the other posts yet, but I assume it has been noted. Also, don't lock your dwarfs in. I had one that got locked in mining. I noticed he was dehydrated, so I let him out. But, he never got a &quot;drink&quot; job and ended up dieing. Too bad, legendary jem cutter!<br /> :I have also found that previously kittens yielded bones/skull/1meat but now they don' yield bones/skulls. I need to check the raws on that.--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 14:57, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Distance==<br /> Not sure what's causing it but I have, under &quot;distance&quot; in the &quot;selecting material&quot; dialogue for constructing a wall, a distance of -66870. Yeah, negative. No idea what's causing it and it doesn't seem to be causing any problems, but it *is* a bug.<br /> :have this problem right after cave in, some seconds later distances return to normal...<br /> <br /> == Mantis ==<br /> <br /> Since DF now uses mantis bugtracker, maybe it is better to put link to mantis ticket at each 'known' bug, so it would be possible to track progress and make sure it is actually known by Toady? - [[User:RusAnon|RusAnon]] 09:55, 5 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ----<br /> <br /> == Talk == <br /> *What's going on with this page guys? Is this a list of unconfirmed bugs, or should all this be on the actual known bugs page? If this is unconfirmed bugs, should the ones on the page be moved here? --[[User:StrongAxe|StrongAxe]] 12:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> *There are a lot of people editing this page who don't seem to understand the formatting or linking standards (how to create bullets, link to same namespace pages). --[[User:StrongAxe|StrongAxe]] 12:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Craftsdwarf's Workshop ==<br /> <br /> I'm putting this here just to get it out there, please edit to be in the proper format and tuff. Obviously it all needs confirmation. I seem to be getting wooden swords from a craftsdwarf's workshop after adding create stone swords tasks. I didn't see if they were actually grabbing wood, or made wooden swords from stone. Also, setting a &quot;create shell crafts&quot; task causes the craftsdwarf to just sit in the workshop with a piece of shell, but not ever completing the job. If I have a repeating shell crafts and a repeating stone crafts, it looks like it still cycles through, but no shell crafts are ever created.<br /> <br /> :I encountered the same problem with shell crafts: made my Legendary Bone Crafter useless, or so I thought -- decorating with shell still works.<br /> <br /> == Food Stockpiles ==<br /> <br /> Has anybody noticed a bug with food stockpiles with barrels? I had a stockpile with lots of booze, plants, etc and then I changed it to have a maximum of ZERO barrels. The dwarfs proceeded to empty out all the barrels to empty places in the area, even the booze ones!<br /> <br /> Also, my kitchen screen doesn't list any meat that I embark with. You cannot use them for cooking?--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 17:03, 7 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Have you tried butchering it? Just curious. [[Special:Contributions/68.43.43.52|68.43.43.52]] 05:57, 8 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I'm not sure how to butcher meat. But, no matter, the bug was fixed in 40.02--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 15:02, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Unknown Military Crash ==<br /> <br /> I've got an odd issue here. I have a single squadron led by (and only populated by) the militia commander, and when I open the military screen, it works fine; however, when my immigrant wave comes and I bolster the ranks with some of the newcomers, the next time I try opening the Military screen, the program crashes. Any ideas? I'll keep testing in the meantime, and see if changing uniform / squad leadership / etc. will fix it. --[[User:Eddie|Eddie]] 16:20, 8 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> EDIT-Found that deleting and remaking the squad fixed this. I haven't saved yet, if anyone wants my save to take a crack at figuring this bug out. --[[User:Eddie|Eddie]] 16:27, 8 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Masterwork food Bug==<br /> <br /> When [[cook]]s make [[masterwork]] [[food]] they suffer art defacement if someone eats it. Has ended 2 fortresses in [[tantrum]] spiral so far.--[[User:Mrdudeguy|Mrdudeguy]] 17:07, 8 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :That's not actually what's happening - others have reported that it's actually due to trying to make food entirely from liquid components (e.g. cooking booze or dwarven syrup and nothing else) and the roasts (with their masterfully minced ingredients) spontaneously melting back into their components, often when a dwarf claims one of them for a meal. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 17:12, 8 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Req for Comments - 'Buggy' template ==<br /> <br /> I've created a template that shows a warning like so:<br /> {{buggy}}<br /> I would like to include this template in articles for features that are currently buggy. I would also like to create a section called 'Bugs' or something similar at the bottom of each article on a currently buggy feature. Example of an article I've done this with: [[Ambusher]].<br /> <br /> The template has one parameter, 'bugsection', which is to be the section heading containing the bugs. In the case of the ambusher article, the section is called &quot;Bugs&quot;, but this is inconsistent across the entire wiki, which is why I've included the parameter. [[User:Garanis|Garanis]] 03:34, 9 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : I also think the bugs section should contain references to specific bug tracker entries. This way, if a person comes to the wiki after finding a bug, they can see at a glance that it has already been reported, or they can add a note, or watch the bug in the tracker if they want. [[User:Garanis|Garanis]] 03:38, 9 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This is Dwarf Fortress. ''All'' bugs are outstanding. -Anonymous (until I overcome laziness and get an account)<br /> <br /> ==Dead Dwarf keeps task and building locked==<br /> <br /> I can't get on the forum now, so this'll have to do. I have a Mason's Workshop with a Construct Rock Table task that is both repeating and currently active. If I go to the (u) screen, there is no dwarf listed with this task. Going to (j)obs, there is a dwarf, one Dumat Tatloshakrul, a Mason. It turns out this dwarf is dead. [[User:Granite26|Granite26]] 13:28, 9 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Although, it'd be cool if the partial corpse was crawling around trying to finish the job.<br /> ::That's not a bug, that's a feature. Now workshops can be haunted! JK. [[User:Garanis|Garanis]] 13:53, 9 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Bedrooms ==<br /> <br /> My dwarves don't seem to prefer their bedrooms anymore. Sometimes they sleep in the barracks (not assigned to squad, and barracks not assigned for sleeping), or the hospital, or a dorm when they have a room assigned, or dont have a room assigned but there are free rooms. Sometimes they even sleep in someone else's bedroom even though they don't have a relationship with that dwarf.<br /> <br /> <br /> == Pathing ==<br /> There seems to be an issue in my &quot;stockpile&quot; z-level where dwarves building walls and placing doors will become completely stuck next to the wall or inside the room where they just replaced the door, unless i deconstruct a wall near them. I had a row of 4 dwarves unable to drink or eat because they had all recently placed a wall in a row, refusing to move until i deconstructed each of their walls. Additionally, upon trying to reconstruct the wall, it will show something along the lines of<br /> &lt;br /&gt;&quot;material distance&quot;&lt;br /&gt;<br /> &quot;diorite -184900&quot;<br /> <br /> == Forging creates different item ==<br /> When I go to forge copper goblets (as right now all I have is copper), the reaction uses the materials like normal but produces gold goblets instead.--[[Special:Contributions/184.59.128.146|184.59.128.146]] 05:21, 25 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> UPDATE: This bug seems to occur with all metals, not just copper. Tried with lead, tin, nickel silver, copper, and electrum.--[[Special:Contributions/184.59.128.146|184.59.128.146]] 21:23, 26 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Goblin attackers don't cause dwarves to interrupt their jobs ==<br /> I've had this with both ambushes and seiges, but strangely not with individual thieves. I'd be interested to know if this happens with everyone, or if it's just me. It seems a little ridiculous that a lone fox or groundhog will frighten every dwarf within a square mile, but they will all happily stroll into a group of goblins. [8/5/2010]<br /> <br /> == Named (or Legendary) Weapon bug ==<br /> <br /> This has happened to me twice: someone gets attached to their weapon and much later names it. The first instance was a cave swallowman spearwoman who fought an unkillable forgotten beast (that also couldn't attack) for something like 5 years. At the end, she started naming the spear, but she did it over and over again until another beast killed her. I figured it was a one time thing until recently my swordmaster named his adamantine short sword (the blade has help kill 100 creatures). Again, he's doing it every 2 minutes. I don't see the bug listed anywhere on this page or on the Names page and I wanted to see if anyone has had a similar issue before I report it. --[[Special:Contributions/69.149.72.238|69.149.72.238]] 02:50, 16 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == alt-tab causes program lockup ==<br /> <br /> in 31.04 if I alt-tab to another window and then come back to DF, the game is locked up and I have to kill the process, losing all my work.--[[Special:Contributions/208.81.12.34|208.81.12.34]] 15:12, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> :I tried this in .10 without trouble, but that doesn't prove much. I ''have'' had the .08 version I think lock up shortly after starting it up (no commands like designate would work) but save still worked. Before version 31 I sometimes had lockups that could be fixed by hitting F11 twice to reinitialize the screen. Perhaps a page with general advice for lockups would be good to have here. [[User:Dorf and Dumb|Dorf and Dumb]] 19:12, 16 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Mantis? ==<br /> <br /> Big headline about please use mantis bugtracker, with link, but I can't get the system to send me the email to make my account. What gives? I've tried a couple different email addresses, checked spam folders, etc.[[Special:Contributions/98.212.62.219|98.212.62.219]] 23:07, 1 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Smelter Fuel issue ==<br /> <br /> I seem to be having some issues with the smelter. The workshop gets locked up as if I have no fuel if the coal is just one z level below the smelter. When I put the fuel on the same z level it works fine.--[[User:Flying Dwarves Hurt|Flying Dwarves Hurt]] 16:17, 14 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Are you sure it's the FUEL that's the problem? Remember, [[bituminous coal]] is not fuel - it has to be smelted into [[coke]] to make it into fuel. Also keep in mind that the smelter isn't able to use bars of fuel if they're already in use for a different task, like being moved to a stockpile. 'Cuz I just fired up DF, and I can't recreate your problem. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 17:47, 14 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I am sure, I had charcoal sitting in a stockpile doing nothing a z lvl under the smelter and the smelter said I had no fuel. Maybe it was just a one time bug.--[[User:Flying Dwarves Hurt|Flying Dwarves Hurt]] 19:03, 14 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::I can't recreate it. Seems to been a one time error, possibly caused by pathing.--[[User:Flying Dwarves Hurt|Flying Dwarves Hurt]] 19:12, 14 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::This problem just arose for me. A pathing issue occured when all of my fuel was placed in bins on a different floor. Moving my smelter to the same floor as my stockpile allowed it to work.--[[User:lvlobius|lvlobius]] 19:29, 27 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Cat having kittens with no mate ==<br /> <br /> My one female Cat that I embarked with just had kittens... there are no male cats and it is my fifth year in the fortress. <br /> Unless there can be cross-species mating I have no clue how this could have come about. <br /> I bought some cougers from the elves but they are both female. I have plenty of Dogs and a mating pair of foxs (from the elves).<br /> Any Ideas as to why the stupid cat had kids?--[[User:Flying Dwarves Hurt|Flying Dwarves Hurt]] 15:21, 17 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Both kittens are female as well.... Have cats found a viable way of reproducing with no males? This could be the end of the dwarven rain over the blasted felines!--[[User:Flying Dwarves Hurt|Flying Dwarves Hurt]] 15:25, 17 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Did one of the previous merchants have a male cat up for sale? Just 'cuz you didn't buy it doesn't mean it couldn't fertilize your cats. I think. Certainly works that way for pack animals. And then it just took this long for your females to give birth. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 04:15, 19 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::No Cats came my way in trade caravans, I had just Elves and Humans show up neither bringing Cats. The Dwarven caravan didn't come because the civilization had been practically wiped out by Mega-beasts during world gen and there where no rulers, just two tiny settlements and some abandoned forts. I want to know if anyone could duplicate it. Would involve putting a female cat in a locked room for many years. :D--[[User:Flying Dwarves Hurt|Flying Dwarves Hurt]] 05:39, 19 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::Something to note, is that animals can be impregnated through walls or anywhere, a cat in the bottom of the caverns could impregnate your newest purchased cat regardless of pathing/walls/z levels/ect.<br /> :::::Thats just messed up :P --[[User:Flying Dwarves Hurt|Flying Dwarves Hurt]] 02:16, 23 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::::We've seen dorfen hygiene. A cat humps someone's leg, and before long the whole fortress is &quot;pollinated&quot;... ;) [[User:Dorf and Dumb|Dorf and Dumb]] 19:14, 16 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Fish really fixed? ==<br /> <br /> I downloaded the .06 version and noticed lifeless lakes and a lifeless ocean, except for sea nettles. The fishermen never catch anything, nettles included, and announce every season or so that there is nothing to catch in either place. But this page says the bug was fixed... [[User:Dorf and Dumb|Dorf and Dumb]] 07:29, 18 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Well the rivers are fixed for sure, its just that the fish seem to stay submerged for long periods of time. It might be something like that with the ocean, the fish not coming to the surface or the shore. Some of my recent forts have been over feed by one fisherman who decided to go all legendary and catch a ton of fish.--[[User:Flying Dwarves Hurt|Flying Dwarves Hurt]] 10:57, 18 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Zone -&gt; flow -&gt; ESC = crash ==<br /> <br /> This seems reproducible in .06, but I'm not sure where there's detailed information to see if it's fixed yet. You hit &quot;i&quot; for zone, choose the flow option with &quot;e&quot;, then hit ESC to cancel... crashes every time. [[User:Dorf and Dumb|Dorf and Dumb]] 19:07, 24 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Well... since .31.0'''8''' is out... download the new version. I can't trigger a crash like that, and I'm using .08. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 20:18, 24 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm getting this reproducibly in 31.10 in Windows Vista, not inclined to create a bug tracker.<br /> <br /> This happens to me in the newest version(I'm using W7 if it matters)[[Special:Contributions/24.121.0.194|24.121.0.194]] 05:48, 24 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ecological devastation by cats: complete lack of vermin ==<br /> <br /> On version .08, with a map started on .06, I've encountered a weird problem: a handful of cats have been so effective in exterminating every last vermin, that nothing rots. I have fresh forgotten beast meat that's a year old, the &quot;partial skeletons&quot; of creatures I can't remember fighting that have never turned into bones; I've had to dump old withered produce into piles because it filled up hundreds and hundreds of squares; even the corpses of the migrants who came in right over the high moat where the elks were grazing... nothing rots, except corpses put up a miasma before turning into partial skeletons. I think the cats must have cleaned out every last creature that rots stuff, though every once in a while I spot them dragging in another vermin corpse (which won't rot either). I see this page says that a bug with vermin not rotting was fixed in .04. [[User:Dorf and Dumb|Dorf and Dumb]] 14:57, 28 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Vermin corpses WILL rot and vanish if they're on the surface. If they're underground, then they'll stop at &quot;Rotten remains&quot;. Bones tend to last a very very long time - bone doesn't rot easily, and that's why vermin-rotting needed the change in .04 (they were mostly bone, so they didn't rot). Vermin do encourage stuff to rot (food outside of barrels will get nibbled on much more easily), but AFAIK are not necessary for the process. If you're really having problems with unwanted stuff, you can always use a [[Dwarven atom smasher]] or [[Magma]] to permanently remove things. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 18:15, 28 June 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Bugs/Features ==<br /> <br /> I just tried version .10 for a bit of a battle with a Blind Cave Ogre. But the Blind Cave Ogre wouldn't fight - all the dorfs kept cancelling their tasks, running right past it, with no conflict. Well, it ''is'' blind... but I think it had more to do with the plump helmet spawn a scared dorf dropped in the doorway. The ogre was two squares away... I think it kept trying and trying to break down the door, but since the seed kept it jammed open, he couldn't close it, so he couldn't break it down. ;) Well, it ''is'' an ogre...<br /> <br /> So I drafted almost every dorf in the fortress in three squads of 10, and with most of them clustered in a terrified huddle by the up-stair, I was actually able to get them to attack it more or less at once. Two were gravely wounded, one of whom went straight from a nobody to an Elite Wrestler as far as I could tell... they almost immediately got it down to yellow, and soon down to unconscious. Unfortunately, an unarmed dorf cannot harm an ''unconscious'' ogre, no matter how long he tries, except for prying ears, nose, and fingers down to red. To avoid death by hunger and thirst, I rotated the squads on the ogre, specifying a few specific weapons manually (with 30+ dorfs, no arsenal dorf position was available). Somehow the rotated squads got up the stairs to drink, even though the civilians had previously clustered downstairs. Eventually some dorf somehow got hold of an axe - not sure if it was just by accident to chop down a tree - and the unconscious overexerted winded ogre finally gurgled his last.<br /> <br /> Though it looks like a properly &quot;seeded&quot; door can apparently serve as a secure barrier against building destroyers, there is a price... the frightened dorfs spammed thirty-plus screens of red ink announcements, which makes it harder to look up those lucky mineral strikes for mining purposes.<br /> <br /> Another odd &quot;feature&quot; is that once an area is designated in brown for mining, the brown carries over to ''anything'' later discovered in the spot. So you get herbalists who can't find the path to a bush that starts blinking in the middle of the long corridor you designated. (choppers work the same way with trees). Though they will collect them if they can get to them. [[User:Dorf and Dumb|Dorf and Dumb]] 19:03, 16 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Another flask bug? ==<br /> <br /> A game started and played in .10 has dorfs using plain &quot;flasks&quot; made from assorted leather. They display in the equipment list on one line as &quot;flask, (rope reed fabric X)&quot;, where the second item is whatever is worn on the Upper Body of that dorf. I suppose it might be an odd way of classifying it, but it smells like a data structure problem. [[User:Dorf and Dumb|Dorf and Dumb]] 03:35, 20 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Individual Combat Training Fixation==<br /> <br /> Hey! Sorry if I'm doing anything horribly wrong in posting this here like this; I'm rather new at this. I know that the main bug page already lists this glitch, where training tasks never finish or cancel, so even after leaving the military, many dwarves continue to train. The main page suggests destroying the barracks where they train. I found more success blocking access to the barracks; by preventing them from getting close enough to a designated training location, one can get the game to cancel the annoying task. My theory is that they have to at some point not have any tasks to do, like drinking, so that the combat drill task kicks in, and then, upon realization of no possible path, is &lt;s&gt;severely beaten to death by a large raccoon&lt;/s&gt; removed by the game. The task, that is; not the dwarves. There is no announcement of cancellation however, although the barrier can be removed afterwords, and assuming dwarves aren't set to start training again, all should be good. Obviously, dwarves need to be on the side of the barrier that the barracks is not on. I don't know if this method is new or people already know it. Please confirm bug fix if new, and add mention on main page if good.<br /> --[[User:Peglegpenguin|Peglegpenguin]] 18:34, 31 July 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Infinite blood ==<br /> <br /> By allowing water to wash over a large number of animals, it is possible for pools of a single dorf's blood to appear all over the floor and walls of a very large room. (v .10-.12) [[User:Dorf and Dumb|Dorf and Dumb]] 15:07, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == lockup in points/routes interface ==<br /> <br /> Using v. .12, it seems the route submenu can get the UI stuck. Accessing notes via 'N', then routes via 'r', if no route exists, 'n' (and 'd', etc) is greyed out, however typing 'n' causes the UI to behave like it's trying to rename a seleced -point- rather than a route, i.e. flashing underbar cursor at the end of the existing name. However from that point it's stuck - typing/backspace doesn't respond, 'enter' doesn't finish editing, 'esc' does nothing - the only key i've found that still does something is 'tab'. Wound up there by accident a couple of times trying to edit names or note text with an unresponsive 'n' or 't' key. Can't find a way out of it other than kill/restart (and hopefully autosave was on..) Known issue? [[Special:Contributions/202.156.10.234|202.156.10.234]] 01:13, 1 September 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == 'make vial' at glass furnace ==<br /> <br /> in v. .12, noticed my (ordinary, non-magma) glass furnace was cluttered. Had previously ordered a few green glass vials, and had noticed the glassmaker happily dragging sand and fuel into the workshop. On checking the clutter, I find.. not glass vials, but flasks.. flasks made of coal...(!). Methinks the fuel and the item to be heated got swapped around. Raw glass still works fine in the same furnace, not sure whether other item production is affected. Workaround seems to be to use magma, which I've previously seen working correctly.<br /> :nvm, this is fixed in the current version (v. .31.16)<br /> <br /> == cages ==<br /> some of my cages have plump helmet spawn in them and it seems like they aren't being recognized as non-furnature and empty -- is this a bug?<br /> <br /> == Plants growing on tiles occupied by trees ==<br /> <br /> I've been suffering from a serious bug - some of my underground trees have been transmogrifying into underground plants and tree saplings. This wouldn't be a big deal or even noticed if trees weren't part of my anti-forgotten beast barrier. There are plenty of workarounds, but man is it annoying. Anyone else suffering from this? --[[User:Peglegpenguin|Peglegpenguin]] 23:57, 13 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Suggestion for total cleanup ==<br /> <br /> What is the point in listing bugs here?<br /> <br /> There are over 1500 reported bugs, everybody can use Mantis to view them. Serious are explained in &quot;Bug&quot; sections. And keeping fixed ones is even more useless.<br /> <br /> Suggestion:<br /> keep: general information, link to mantis, not-a-bug<br /> add link to mantis guide, or copy it here ( http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=52185.0 ).<br /> <br /> And part of discussion may be moved to archive talk page.<br /> <br /> [[Special:Contributions/149.156.96.15|149.156.96.15]] 11:13, 26 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == More equipment stuff ==<br /> <br /> I was setting up my (so far, fairly pathetic) military for training, giving them steel breastplates, shields, &amp; battle axes, when I noticed my dwarves equipping wooden equipment I (accidentally) stole from some elves, plus some other non-steel stuff. It happened after I made them equip ''metal'' equipment, then saw I had the resources to make a ton of steel. I got them to equip the right equipment by making them get rid of everything, then making them get it back. Not too much of a problem, but still annoying and hard to notice.</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31_Talk:Undead&diff=135458 2011-01-28T00:50:43Z

<p>Joejr50: Ghostly Miner</p> <hr /> <div>== Ghostly Miner ==<br /> <br /> I ran out of drink and had a tantrum spiral (I'm still not very good at this, ok?). I started recovering (yay!) and I found a dead miner in my farm as a ghost. I'ts labeled ''Ghostly Miner''. What is this?</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31_Talk:Sasquatch&diff=135456 2011-01-28T00:17:30Z

<p>Joejr50: Aggression</p> <hr /> <div>== Aggression ==<br /> <br /> Are sasquatches aggressive? I found one right next to some new immigrants and want to avoid their death.--[[User:Joejr50|Joejr50]] 00:17, 28 January 2011 (UTC)</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31:Cage&diff=134688 2011-01-06T22:58:11Z

<p>Joejr50: Rated article &quot;Exceptional&quot; using the rating script</p> <hr /> <div>{{quality|Exceptional|22:58, 6 January 2011 (UTC)}}{{av}}<br /> <br /> <br /> {{furniture|name=Cage<br /> |tile=‼|col=0:6:0<br /> |wood=y<br /> |metal=y<br /> |glass=y<br /> |rooms=<br /> * {{L|Jail}} (if metal)<br /> }}<br /> For cage traps, see [[Traps#Cage_Trap|traps]].<br /> <br /> '''Cages''' are used in {{L|cage trap}}s, {{L|jail}}s, and zoos, {{L|pit}}s and aquariums.<br /> <br /> A glass cage is called a terrarium or, if filled with water for holding {{L|Captured live fish|captured}} live {{L|fish}}, an aquarium.<br /> <br /> Cages are stored on the Animal Stockpile.<br /> <br /> ==Building and using a cage==<br /> Cages can be constructed from {{L|wood}} at a {{L|carpenter's workshop}}, from {{L|metal}} at a {{L|metalsmith's forge}}, and from {{L|glass}} at a {{L|glass furnace}}.<br /> <br /> You can then either build them to a tile via {{k|b}} - {{k|j}} (this is needed for linking a lever to them, or assigning a pet to it) or simply keep them stockpiled so they can be used to load cage {{L|trap}}s.<br /> <br /> When building a cage, you can use a cage that already has something inside. To precisely choose which cage to use, you can expand the list of the cages of a certain type via {{k|x}}.<br /> <br /> ===Creature containment===<br /> <br /> To assign creatures to a cage, press {{k|q}} and move the cursor over the cage. Use {{k|+}} and {{k|-}} to scroll up and down the list of {{L|creatures}}, and {{k|Enter}} to assign them to the cage.<br /> <br /> Multiple creatures can be assigned to the same cage with no penalty. It is completely possible to fit hundreds of {{L|dog|puppies}} in a cage with dozens of {{L|blind cave ogre}}s with no ill effects or a {{L|dragon}}, a thousand cats plus more, leading some players to conclude that cages include some sort of hidden &quot;cage space&quot; that allows infinitely tight packing of creatures.<br /> <br /> There is no particular labor for releasing creatures in cages. Use {{k|q}} to examine the cage, {{k|a}} to assign, and then use {{k|enter}} to toggle the animal(s) currently inside (animals assigned to the cage will have a green &quot;+&quot; next to them). Any available dwarf will perform the job, so beware of pitting untamed or hostile creatures with a weak dwarf. For more information, see {{L|captured creatures}}.<br /> <br /> You can get details about the creatures which are in a built cage by pressing {{k|t}} and then {{k|enter}}. There, you can scroll the list of creatures and get details, for example, you can tell whether a Donkey is male or female, which is interesting if your intention is to keep milkable animals near a farmer's workshop.<br /> <br /> ===Prisons===<br /> <br /> To set a cage as a {{L|jail}}, {{k|q}}uery the cage, designate it as a {{k|r}}oom, and then set it to be used for {{k|j}}ustice. Only {{L|metal}} cages may be used in this way, despite {{L|wood}}en cages being strong enough to hold {{L|dragon}}s.<br /> <br /> Dwarves in cages must be fed by other dwarves.<br /> <br /> ===Remotely Opening Cages===<br /> <br /> A built cage can be linked to a {{L|lever}} to remotely open it. When the cage opens, the occupant(s) inside are released, the cage and {{L|mechanism}} deconstruct and can be returned to their respective stockpiles. Note that you have to use a &quot;built&quot; cage as described above, it won't work with cages on your stockpile.<br /> <br /> ===Alternate way of Opening Cages===<br /> <br /> When traders are around, you can select &quot;move good to trading depot&quot; and select the cage of choice.<br /> When a hauler takes the cage, the creature inside will be released. be sure to disarm the creature beforehand...<br /> <br /> ===Cages and Fluids===<br /> <br /> A cage will protect a creature inside it from {{L|swimmer|drowning}}, so if you want to drown a creature in a cage, you must open it remotely, as explained in the above section (as a corollary, if your fortress is drowning in water, you can cage your dwarves and rescue them later). However, built cages will not protect caged creatures from {{L|magma}}, making this a somewhat faster option, as it doesn't require linking each cage to a lever. Cages which are not {{L|magma-safe}} will be degraded and/or destroyed by this process, and cages which are made of flammable materials (such as wood) may be set on {{L|fire}}. Any items the creature had equipped will teleport to wherever the creature was caged, typically a tile with a {{L|cage trap}} on it. These items may or may not be on fire; no case of teleporting !!large cave spider silk sock!!s have yet been observed, but this doesn't prove it can't happen. Exercise caution.<br /> <br /> ===Buying Cages ===<br /> Traders may bring cages for sale. If these cages contain a {{L|tame}}d {{L|creature}}, the item will be listed as (creature) cage, and will not describe the material the cage is made out of. However, the cage may contain a tamed {{L|vermin}}, in which case it will be listed in the trading dialogue as by the material the cage is made out of. In such cases, the expanded cage description will list the contents of the cage.<br /> <br /> {{buildings}}<br /> <br /> ==Bugs==<br /> <br /> Creatures in cages that come from dead merchants cannot be freed. They can only be transferred between cages.</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31:Dwarven_economy&diff=132563 2010-11-28T20:24:16Z

<p>Joejr50: Rated article &quot;Tattered&quot; using the rating script</p> <hr /> <div>{{quality|Tattered|20:24, 28 November 2010 (UTC)}}{{AV}}<br /> <br /> In DF2010 the economy does not activate anymore. [[Toady One]] has stated that it may come back in after sweeping changes are made to make it less broken.</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31:Adventurer_mode&diff=132536 2010-11-28T02:18:48Z

<p>Joejr50: Rated article &quot;Fine&quot; using the rating script</p> <hr /> <div>{{quality|Fine|02:18, 28 November 2010 (UTC)}}{{av}} <br /> <br /> In '''adventurer mode''', you pick a race ({{L|dwarf}}, {{L|human}}, or {{L|elf}}) and start out in either a {{L|Site|town}} of your race or in a previous {{L|fortress}} you played on. You can receive {{L|quest}}s, venture into the wilderness to find {{L|caves}}, abandoned towers and other {{L|Site|villages}}. You can even visit your old {{L|Fortress|fortresses}} and find whatever riches were left to be guarded by the {{L|creatures}} that sealed the fate of your {{L|fortress}}.<br /> <br /> The user interface differs somewhat from {{L|fortress mode}}; you may want to refer to the {{L|Adventure Mode quick reference|quick reference}} guide, or examine the detailed {{L|controls}} page. {{L|Site map}} may also prove useful.<br /> <br /> To jump right into things, see the [[DF2010:Adventure mode quick start|quick start guide]].<br /> <br /> ==Changes==<br /> <br /> ===Changes from 40d===<br /> <br /> Fast-travel, {{k|shift}}+{{k|t}} to enter, and {{k|shift}}+{{k|.}} (Pretend you are making the '&gt;' downstairs symbol) to exit, no longer heals all of your wounds instantly, nor can fast-travel be used when bleeding out. Some wounds do heal over time.<br /> <br /> Cave systems are accessible to adventurers but you are virtually guaranteed to get lost exploring them.<br /> - But if you can return to the general area where you entered the cave, you can fast {{k|T}}ravel, even if you can't find the exit. You can navigate. Tested 15 levels below the cave entrance - Need to be confirmed if it works regardless of how many z-levels under the entrance you are.<br /> <br /> Material changes are extremely noticeable in adventure mode. Elves with wood are noticeably weaker, and throwing/ranged weapons somewhat reduced in effectiveness.<br /> <br /> As of the current release, adventurers start out more powerful than they had in 40d, with certain builds(use all skill points) granting super-----ly tough/strong/agile at start.<br /> <br /> &quot;Stuck-in&quot; weapons no longer are endlessly twisted in the wound until the creature bleeds to death, or the weapon is yanked out. There is now a roll to see who controls the stuck-in weapon on the turn following the &quot;stuck-in&quot; attack.<br /> <br /> Human towns have only bronze weapons and armor, and large clothing.<br /> <br /> Swimming, sneaking, fighting, etc. seem to improve the associated skills only. Attributes (strength, etc.) remain the same even after a long and active period of adventuring.<br /> <br /> Combat is much more forgiving than in 40d. Bolts and arrows are less deadly, because they can be blocked with a shield. Armor protects you much better versus bolts and arrows -- when wearing plate, it's rare for one to get through. Don't assume you're arrow proof, but you can take a bit more punishment now. {{verify}} Also, no metal armor can protect one's throat. {{verify}}<br /> <br /> Based on what civilizations are allied with humans you may be able to play Kobolds or Goblins, but only random names can be used.<br /> <br /> === Changes in 0.31.17 ===<br /> <br /> When generating an adventurer you now have points to assign to {{L|attributes}} as well as to skills. You can reduce unwanted attributes down to 1 to get more points for other attributes.<br /> <br /> The travel-mode map is now more zoomed-in than before. To see a fully zoomed-out map during travel mode, press {{key|m}}, and one will appear at the right.<br /> <br /> The bar at the top of the travel-mode screen shows the position of the sun, giving you an easy indication of how much daylight is left.<br /> <br /> You become sleepy during travel mode. You can choose to sleep or wait for a specific time using (by default) {{k|shift}}+{{k|Z}}. If you sleep outside during the night you can be ambushed by bogeymen or a myriad of other night monsters. Sleeping inside a building (including the temples and lairs of vanquished monsters) will protect you from this.<br /> <br /> There are now hamlets (Æ and æ) and castles (○) in addition to towns (+) (NOTE: those symbols are how they appear in the world map (fully zoomed-out)). When in a town or hamlet clusters of buildings will be marked as ▐ in the mini-map in the lower-left hand corner. Only towns have shops, which appear as yellow ▐ in both the travel map and the mini-map.<br /> <br /> You can get quests from any person in a town/hamlet, and from any soldier in a castle after you've gained enough reputation from completing a few quests. Quests to kill titans, dragons and hydras you can only get from leaders found in castles, and only after you've gained a lot of reputation.<br /> <br /> The ability to recruit soldiers now depends on reputation from completing quests, rather than how skilled you are compared to them. At hero or demigod level, you start off with a maximum of two companions, with the max increasing by one for each quest you complete, topping off at 19 companions.<br /> <br /> == Your first adventure ==<br /> <br /> === Picking a race ===<br /> When it comes to picking a race, there is difference in {{L|skills}}. {{L|Dwarves}} cannot wear {{L|human}} sized {{L|armor}}, and are somewhat limited in the {{L|weapons}} they can wield due to their size. {{L|Elves}} have a slightly different set of {{L|skills}} and start with wooden weapons. {{L|Humans}} are generally fairly well-balanced, and are the easiest to acquire quests from. Additionally, human towns are the only places which have shops, which gives another means for upgrading equipment and getting food. Each race fares differently in combat; you may wish to look at the races' pages for the finer details.<br /> <br /> === Choosing skills ===<br /> Basically, if you want to start with a {{L|weapon}}, you need to avoid having the most points spent in unarmored/{{L|wrestling}}. If you, for example, choose to start out with most points in {{L|swordsman}}, you will start out with a {{L|sword}}. When you have chosen your preferred set of {{L|skills}}, you can press {{key|Enter}} to embark. The weapon skill you choose will also determine what armor you start out with - swordsmen, macemen, axemen, hammermen, spearmen, and lashers start with chain armor and a shield, pikemen start with chain armor but no shield, bowmen and crossbowmen start with leather armor and no shield, and wrestlers start with no armor at all.<br /> <br /> All the {{L|skills}} you see CAN be improved through use in game, so don’t worry about spreading them out completely evenly. In general, pick the {{L|skills}} you think you’re going to use. The {{L|skills}} are pretty self explanatory but its recommended that you put at least a few points into {{L|shield user}} and into a type of weapon. Be warned that {{L|weapon}} {{L|skills}} generally take a while to level up, so placing a good deal of points into a single weapon may be to your advantage. Also keep in mind that your skills determine what kind of equipment you have in the beginning, ie high sword skill means you’ll start with a sword. For information on the weapons and the other aspects of combat, please check the combat section. It is also a good idea to use a point or two for {{L|Swimming}}, otherwise you might end up drowning in a puddle.<br /> <br /> === Setting out ===<br /> <br /> ==== Getting Quests ====<br /> <br /> If you chose human, you will start out in a human town or hamlet; the @ sign is your character. In the lower left-hand corner of the screen is a mini-map, with the @ sign showing your relative location to other things in the town/hamlet. The ▐ symbols are small collections of buildings. The buildings can be spaced rather far apart, so even when you get your @ on top of a ▐ it might take some wandering about to find a building. Once you find a building, step through the door. It should have multiple Ü's, each of which is a human. Press {{K|k}} to talk to one, then select &quot;Service&quot; to get a quest. You can do this multiple times to get several quests.<br /> <br /> Now that you have some quests, press {{K|Q}} to look at them (this screen is called the Adventure Log). The world map is on the left, with your current location highlighted by a blinking &quot;O&quot;, while on the right is the list of your quests. You can select a quest and press {{K|z}} to find the location of the quest site: the blinking &quot;O&quot; will move to the quest site, with a green line drawing the path you need to take. Pressing {{K|m}} will tell you the species of the monster you're supposed to kill. You can also use the arrow keys to move the &quot;O&quot; around to examine the surrounding terrain and sites.<br /> <br /> Note that once you complete a quest that you can report your success to ''any'' human. Once you tell one human, everyone in the same civilization will know about it. The Adventure Log will tell you to report back to a particular hamlet/town/castle, but you can safely ignore that.<br /> <br /> ==== Traveling ====<br /> <br /> Getting to the quest sites and back would be extremely tedious if you had to move as you're moving now. Fortunately, there's a &quot;quick travel&quot; mode which can be activated by pressing {{K|T}}. This will put you in a somewhat zoomed-out map, with the hamlet/town you're in represented by a cluster of ▐s, with your current location marked by a &quot;@&quot;. Pressing {{K|m}} will put a fully zoomed-out map on the right side of the screen, with your current location marked by a blinking &quot;X&quot;. Move in the direction of the quest site until the blinking &quot;X&quot; is on top of the symbols indicated in the Adventure Log (you can press {{K|Q}} at any time to look at it again).<br /> <br /> At this point the quest site might not be visible, or its symbol might be the same color as the surrounding terrain and thus hard to see. If this is the case, then exit quick travel mode by pressing {{K|&gt;}}. In the upper left-hand corner of the screen will be a box with symbols running down the left-hand side. At the top of the box will be the symbol of your quest site, with the compass direction to the site at to its right, and &quot;TSK&quot; to the right of the direction indicating an unfinished quest at that site. Press {{K|T}} again to re-enter quick travel mode, and repeat the process until you get to the quest site.<br /> <br /> Once you get to the quest site, you'll be unable to enter it when using quick travel mode. Attempting to do so will give the message &quot;You cannot travel through the [site]&quot;. You must exit quick travel mode by pressing {{K|&gt;}} and move the rest of the way using the normal movement mode. The box in the upper left-hand corner will tell you the direction to go. When you complete the quest the &quot;TSK&quot; will be gone from the site's line in the box, and looking at the Adventure Log ({{K|Q}}) will show &quot;Report Death of ...&quot; instead of &quot;Kill ...&quot;. You then have to move off the site using the slow travel method before entering quick travel mode again with {{K|T}} (trying to do so on the site will tell you &quot;You cannot travel until you leave this site&quot;.)<br /> <br /> ==== Nighttime: survival and sleeping ====<br /> When using quick travel mode the top line of the screen will indicate the position of the sun in the sky with a yellow &quot;☼&quot;; further to the right of the screen is earlier in the day and further to the left is later in the day. If you're traveling alone when night comes you'll be in danger of being attacked by [[bogeymen]]. To avoid this while traveling solo you need to make it to a human habitation before nightfall and sleep the night away inside a building. Enter a building, use {{K|k}} to talk to a human, and ask for permission to stay the night. Next press {{K|Z}} to sleep, {{K|d}} to sleep until dawn, then {{K|Enter}} to confirm. ('''NOTE''': If you stay the night in a castle, you have to sleep in the keep which houses the lord/lady of the castle. Sleeping inside the castle but outside the keep still leaves you vulnerable to attack.)<br /> <br /> Though sleeping inside can be safe, it's also limiting: any quest site you want to go to has to be within a daytime's round-trip time of a human habitation, and you have to make your way to there by hopping from one habitation to the next, sleeping at each along the way. A way to avoid this is to travel with companions. If you have any companions with you then [[bogeymen]] won't attack you. You'll still have to sleep at night, though, both to avoid sleep deprivation and because there's no visibility at night. You can still be ambushed at night by wildlife, but that's much less likely than being ambushed by [[bogeymen]] when traveling alone. If you find yourself alone at night with nowhere safe to sleep, the safest best is to keep travelling until dawn, even if that means running around in circles. You will eventually feel unwell from sleep deprivation, but this can take a considerable time. You can make up for lost sleep once you've found your way to safety.<br /> <br /> === Food and Drink ===<br /> The easiest way to stay hydrated and full when starting out is by finding and fighting something weak (a vulture, say, or a racoon, or a fox). You will almost certainly end up covered in blood. You can drink any liquid covering you using 'e' and then simply selecting the fluid - perhaps a little salty in real life, but in Dwarf Fortress it works. The corpse can then be butchered for edible parts, to cure your hunger - the first two problems are solved.<br /> <br /> As of 31.17, the need to eat and drink has been removed pending further changes.<br /> <br /> === Civilization? ===<br /> Elves live out in the forest, literally. Although defined to specific regions on the map, they have no structural wealth whatsoever. Some trees are named.<br /> <br /> Humans live in towns comprised of buildings and often a paved road. Human villages are highly modular. The small 5x5 buildings are citizen houses and are marked with an &quot;H&quot; on the town auto-map. Medium buildings are stores, marked with a symbol that indicates what they sell - weapons, armor, food, clothing, trinkets. As of the current version, you start in the mead hall which is marked with an &quot;M&quot; on the automap. There are one or two apartment buildings which are two stories, with six rooms a story; they are also marked with an &quot;H.&quot; There are two really large buildings - the &quot;T&quot;emple and the a fort-like building that is marked with &quot;K.&quot; Temples tend to have two or three levels, and a pool of water, while the &quot;K&quot; buildings are three or four floors high and are almost entirely empty (they will occationally contain random smatterings of clothing though, if you're looking for things to sell.)<br /> <br /> Dwarves live underground. Their entrances are large square pits with stairs around the perimeter, and a row of leading down into the fortress halls at the bottom. The main halls are wide and have pillars near the walls, long and occasionally turn corners. Different levels in the fortress are marked by a row of ramps with two pillars on the side (walk towards the side of the ramp that has the pillars) and, although the number of floors in a fortress can vary, they are usually little and only become deep if the lay of the land above is variable. There are two-tile-wide hallways, empty 5x5 rooms, and scant Dwarves in these pre-fab fortresses. It's obvious the computer is playing a completely different game than you are in {{L|Fortress Mode}}!<br /> <br /> Goblins live in {{L|obsidian}} towers, usually found built in twos, though they both don't necessarily have to be built up. One could be a &quot;tower,&quot; one could be an over-glorified &quot;basement.&quot; There is probably a temple nearby, completely similar to human temples. Goblin towers have tight 1-wide hallways, spacious and empty rooms, and strange hall extensions that end in remote cross-like dead-ends. Like dwarf fortresses, there is rarely anything in a Goblin tower asides from Goblins, and they have a strange tendency not to attack non-Goblin visitors. They seem to have lots of children.<br /> <br /> You may come across what the map defines as a &quot;Goblin&quot; city that is actually populated by Humans or Dwarves living in or around the towers.<br /> <br /> === Shops ===<br /> <br /> ==== Trading (barter) ====<br /> In human towns (not hamlets or castles), you can find {{L|building|shops}}. Once you're inside of a shop and right next to any of the NPCs, you can use {{K|k}} to talk to him/her, then select trade. Use {{K|Enter}} to select which items to trade, left/right arrow keys to switch between the list of shop items and your items, and up/down arrow keys to scroll through the lists. Once done, press {{K|t}} to trade. The shopkeeper won't get angry if you're not offering enough in trade, so you can start offering just a few items, keep trying again with a little more until the trade is accepted. Once the trade is accepted all of the items you offered will be on the floor underneath you.<br /> <br /> After buying an item, you must pick it up manually from somewhere in the shop. {{K|l}}ook around for an item without $ signs around it. If NPCs are standing directly over the items you just bought, go prone with the {{K|s}} key so you can move onto the same space as them and pick them up.<br /> <br /> Due to some limitations, there are only &quot;human town&quot; {{L|shopkeeper}}s in a pre-fab Adventure mode civilization.<br /> <br /> ====Theft====<br /> You may also pick up the item before buying it, but you should never walk out of a shop carrying an unbought item, as that is theft. It is punishable by death if you are caught, and excommunication if you are not. On any occasion when you have stolen goods from a store, ie goods bounded by the $$ signs, the game requires you to exit the site ''and'' move a considerable distance before allowing you to quick travel. This may make a getaway more difficult if your adventurer is not already faster than anyone else. This only applies to goods in stores; killing townsfolk and taking their personal things, including those of the shopkeep still only requires exiting the site. The moment you are out of sight, you will be able to warp out as usual. Theft and murder remain within entities; even depopulating one country and stealing all its things will not generate ill response in another country.<br /> <br /> '''Note that if you steal anything, then nobody in that civilization will talk to you anymore, making it impossible for you to get new quests, use the shops, or get new companions.'''<br /> <br /> ==== Selling and buying with money ====<br /> In addition to bartering, you can sell items to a shop for coins, then use the coins to buy stuff at another shop. Just select the items you want to sell or buy, and then set a price using the following format{{verify}}:<br /> * {{k|a}} asking for 9000☼<br /> * {{k|s}} +100☼<br /> * {{k|d}} +10☼<br /> * {{k|f}} +1☼<br /> * {{k|g}} reset to 0☼<br /> * {{k|h}} -1☼ (offering)<br /> * {{k|j}} -10☼<br /> * {{k|k}} -100☼<br /> * {{k|l}} offer 9000☼<br /> <br /> The use of these keys may seem non-intuitive, and this is further complicated by the limit on your available offers by your current financial health.<br /> <br /> Shopkeepers are used to adventurers with inflated ideas about the value of their goods, so it may be simplest to ask for 9000☼ for your goods, or offer 1☼ for theirs and suggest a {{k|t}}rade. The shopkeeper will counteroffer with the actual value of the goods, and will be quite delighted to accept a {{k|t}}rade at the price they've just quoted to you. You can then purchase things with your store credit. One turn after the trade session ends, the balance of your coins will appear on a small table next to a chest.<br /> <br /> ====Managing coins====<br /> Coins can and will encumber your adventurer, eventually reducing your speed. To reduce that effect you can try to exchange your copper and silver coins for gold ones. To do that you can purchase goods from a merchant to the sum of your copper coins, then sell them back. Check the merchant's chest to see how much gold and silver coins they have. You can delay the problem by selling your loot to many merchants, as they will try to pay you in higher denomination currency first.<br /> <br /> A few goods are strictly superior to all forms of coinage as a store of value, most commonly giant cave spider silk items. A suitably sneaky (or powerful) adventurer can murder a few dwarves or goblins for such items for trade and sale for human goods. Giant cave spider silk is a non-renewable resource in a given world - please harvest responsibly.<br /> <br /> ==== Where to get items to sell ====<br /> The best place to get items to sell is at bandit camps, after you've slaughtered all the bandits. You can loot the clothes and equipment off of the corpses of the bandits (and off your fallen companions, too), plus at the very center of camp there'll be a few scattered weapons and a few bags/chests containing various goods.<br /> <br /> The next best way to get items to sell is to kill non-talking monsters, butcher their corpses (see below for how), and pick up the edible bits.<br /> <br /> At the bottom of the list comes {{k|L}}ooking Carefully and selling any small creatures you might find.<br /> <br /> === Equipping your adventurer === <br /> After acquiring {{L|armor}} from one source or another, you'll most likely want to equip it. To do this, first make sure it is in your possession--not on the ground. You can then {{key|w}}ear it, granted you don't already have too much on that equipment slot already. You can {{key|r}}emove or {{key|d}}rop inferior equipment as necessary.<br /> <br /> {{L|Weapons}} and {{L|Armor#Shields and Bucklers|shields}} are handled differently. There is no explicit equipment command. Instead, they are automatically equipped when you either {{k|g}}et them from the ground or {{k|r}}emove them from your {{L|backpack}} - provided the hand that would wield them is free. So in order to change {{L|weapons}} or {{L|Armor#Shields and Bucklers|Shields}} you would need to {{k|p}}ut your equipped weapon into your {{L|backpack}} and then {{k|r}}emoving your new desired weapon. You do not need to drop weapons and equip new ones etc. Simply remember the {{k|r}}emove command and the {{k|p}}ut into container command.<br /> <br /> It should be noted that the world of DF seems to have a lot of left handers, so do not be surprised if your character holds the weapon with the left hand and the {{L|Armor#Shields and Bucklers|shield}} with the right hand. (actually, it's common for right-handers to hold shields in their right hand as shields tend to be rather heavy and also need to absorb a lot of force when struck){{verify}}<br /> <br /> ==Adventure Mode Skills==<br /> Physical attributes are influenced by the skills selected in character generation, in the beginning ''and'' in maximum potential. Starting with fewer skill points spent will leave you a significantly weaker charater; choosing the &quot;Play Now&quot; option generates a character with no skills and the poorest attributes, for the most challenging playthrough.<br /> <br /> Adventurers can now perform buildingless reactions. To access the reaction menu, press {{k|x}}. Worlds generated before {{l|Release information/0.31.09|version 0.31.09}} cannot perform knapping in Adventure Mode, and new worlds must be generated if custom adventurer reactions are added.<br /> <br /> '''Knapping''' allows an adventurer to sharpen a rock. '''Knapping does not work with stones in containers, only ones on the ground or in your hand.'''&lt;br /&gt;Stones can only be {{k|d}}ropped if the stone type does not naturally exist in the biome you are in, so to use ground stones it is worthwhile to {{k|T}}ravel far from the area you {{k|g}}ot the stones. Otherwise, you can place both stones into your hands. This can be achieved by {{k|d}}ropping whatever is held in your left and right hands, then {{k|g}}etting small stones from the ground. Next, press {{k|x}} to open the action menu, and press {{k|c}}reate and then {{k|→}} to select &quot;Make sharp stone&quot;. You will be prompted to choose a rock to sharpen (&quot;tool stone&quot;), and then the hammerstone. The tool stone will be replaced in your hand by a sharp version.<br /> <br /> '''Butchering''' acts similarly to Fortress Mode's {{l|Butchery}} by converting a corpse into edible products, bones, and skin. A corpse must be {{k|d}}ropped onto the ground to be butchered, or held in one hand. With a sharp object (such as a dagger or knapped stone) in your hand or on the same tile of the corpse, press {{k|x}}, {{k|b}}, and {{k|→}} to select the corpse, and then the sharp tool. The corpse will be replaced by its butchering returns.<br /> <br /> == Combat ==<br /> <br /> Any creature can be attacked by standing next to it and pressing {{k|shift}}+{{k|A}}. Attacking a friendly creature (which includes wild animals for elves) will further require a confirmation, given using {{k|alt}}+{{k|y}}. Attacking a creature using this method, will allow you to make an aimed attack. You must first select the body part that you want to attack. Look at the difficulty rating for various possible attacks. Impossible attacks will be... impossible to land and Easier attacks will be very easy to land. Don't be afraid to try Trickier attacks, especially against easier enemies. Attacks will also land more or less squarely. Square and very square attacks will deal more damage {{verify}}. Attacks which &quot;can't land squarely&quot; are generally still effective.<br /> <br /> Hostile creatures can also be attacked using a non-aimed attack. To make a non-aimed attacked, simply advance towards your enemy using the arrow keys. Doing a non-aimed attack will also free up any stuck weapon.<br /> <br /> To attack with a ranged weapon press the {{k|f}} key and select the square where you want to attack.<br /> <br /> Attacks aimed at the head are the most effective, a single attack to the cranium with a weapon will usually put an end to the fight. Depending on the situation, it may be worth trying to take even a &quot;Difficult&quot; shot at the head.<br /> <br /> === The Weapons ===<br /> <br /> Weapons are basically divided into axe, sword, spear, pike, mace, whip, bow and hammer, with various versions of these taking up the gray area.<br /> <br /> === Non-weapon ===<br /> <br /> Besides your weapons you have two other major forms of attack: Wrestling and throwing.<br /> <br /> Wrestling: Wrestling can be performed by standing next to an enemy and pressing {{k|shift}}+{{k|A}} and then {{k|enter}} to switch to wrestling. You can wrestle any enemy.<br /> <br /> Throwing: Throwing is the skill of... well, basically throwing stuff. And vomit. And bugs and spears and rocks so on. Just about anything can be thrown, sometimes with devastating results.<br /> <br /> === Wounds ===<br /> <br /> If you get wounded during combat, there's not much that you can do. Your wounds will heal over time, so just travel around or sleep in a safe place. Some wounds however may never heal, leaving you permanently crippled.<br /> <br /> If you have some bolts or arrow stuck in your body, they can be removed by using the complex interaction menu {{k|I}}. Select the stuck bolt or arrow from the list and then pull it out with {{k|a}}<br /> <br /> == Tips/FAQ ==<br /> <br /> '''Q1: How do I get past NPCs which are in my way?'''<br /> <br /> A: Press {{K|s}} to sit, then move to crawl between their legs. Once you're done press {{K|s}} to stand again.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> '''Q2: How do I find an entrance to the underworld?'''<br /> <br /> A: As of v0.31.17 quest monsters no longer live in caves, so you can't find caves by asking for quests. Instead, repeatedly ask NPCs about the surroundings, and they might tell you about the the location of a cave. If this doesn't show any caves, travel to a hamlet/town/castle some distance away and try again.<br /> <br /> ==See also==<br /> *[[Adventure Mode quick reference]]<br /> *[[DF2010:Adventure mode quick start|quick start guide]]<br /> <br /> {{Category|Adventurer mode}}</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31:Adventure_mode_quick_reference&diff=132535 2010-11-28T02:12:34Z

<p>Joejr50: Rated article &quot;Fine&quot; using the rating script</p> <hr /> <div>{{quality|Fine|02:12, 28 November 2010 (UTC)}}{{av}}<br /> These are the keys used in {{L|Adventure mode}}.<br /> ==Key Bindings==<br /> {| class=&quot;wikitable&quot; style=&quot;border:1px solid #ccc;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! align=&quot;center&quot; | Keys<br /> ! align=&quot;center&quot; | Meaning<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|8}} {{k|2}} {{k|4}} {{k|6}} {{k|7}} {{k|9}} {{k|1}} {{k|3}}<br /> | Move<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|↑}} {{k|↓}} {{k|←}} {{k|→}}<br /> | Move<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|Alt}} and a direction key<br /> | Move carefully / Deliberately enter dangerous terrain<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|&lt;}} or {{k|Shift}}+{{key|5}} (num lock off)<br /> | Ascend<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|&gt;}} or {{k|Ctrl}}+{{key|5}} (num lock off)<br /> | Descend<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|.}}<br /> | Wait for a step<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|Space}}<br /> | Advance/Clear Messages<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|a}}<br /> | View Announcements<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|c}}<br /> | View companion interface<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|d}}<br /> | Drop an item<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|e}}<br /> | Eat or drink something<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|g}}<br /> | Pickup an item<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|f}}<br /> | Fire a projectile<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|i}}<br /> | Inventory<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|l}}<br /> | Look around<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|k}}<br /> | Talk to somebody<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|p}}<br /> | Put an item into a container<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|r}}<br /> | Remove an item you are wearing or from a container<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|s}}<br /> | Stand or lie down (moving while laying down (crawling) will let you move past NPCs which are standing in your way)<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|t}}<br /> | Throw an item<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|u}}<br /> | Interact with building, furniture, or mechanism<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|w}}<br /> | Wear an item<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|x}}<br /> | Perform action (butcher, create item...)<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|z}}<br /> | Status<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|A}}<br /> | Attack a adjacent creature. Change Mode to {{L|wrestle}}.<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|C}}<br /> | Open combat preferences interface<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|D}}<br /> | Date/Time<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|I}}<br /> | Interact with an object in an advanced way. (unstick a weapon, refill waterskin etc)<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|L}}<br /> | Search the nearby area very carefully<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|P}}<br /> | Temperature<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|Q}}<br /> | Adventure log (tasks, map, et cetera...)<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|S}}<br /> | Sneak<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|T}}<br /> | Travel<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|W}}<br /> | Weather<br /> |-<br /> | {{k|Z}}<br /> | Sleep<br /> |}<br /> <br /> If you want to get a specific item (eg. wield weapon or knapping tool) from your backpack to your right hand:&lt;br /&gt;first drop current item from right hand, drop wanted item from backpack, pick up wanted item. Optionally pick up first dropped item.<br /> <br /> Alternativelly, use (r)emove.<br /> <br /> {{Category|Guides}}<br /> {{Category|Adventurer mode}}</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=Talk:Music&diff=128241 2010-09-26T16:48:41Z

<p>Joejr50: Created page with 'I can't seem to get music to work in DF2010. Is anybody else having this problem?--~~~~'</p> <hr /> <div>I can't seem to get music to work in DF2010. Is anybody else having this problem?--[[User:Joejr50|Joejr50]] 16:48, 26 September 2010 (UTC)</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31_Talk:Strange_mood&diff=114613 2010-05-23T20:18:11Z

<p>Joejr50: /* Yet another possible bug */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>I never had any of the moods that required dwarves to be depressed in 40d but I have a high master milker in a fey mood asking for body parts. will commit Dorfcide for science[[User:Cpad|Cpad]]<br /> :'''''SCIENCE!!!'''''--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 01:19, 5 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> man dwarves are hard to shred.killed a bunch of dwarves but the only parts that came off were teeth(Note use more violence next time) and the milker just sat in the craft shop then went beserk.Interestingly a dwarves &quot;z&quot; screen loses all the personality info when they go insane[[User:Cpad|Cpad]]<br /> <br /> For what it's worth, I've seen a couple moods, saved to attempt different methods of reacting to them, and have noticed that Fey and Secretive work exactly as they did in 40d, apart from dwarves now requesting more different kinds of things. Perhaps we can update the 2010 page with some of the stuff from the 40d page at this point? --[[User:AzureShadow|AzureShadow]] 02:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> according to the bone article bones are now counted as body parts so I'm assuming thats what he was after [[User:Cpad|Cpad]] 13:15, 7 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> A fey dwarf of mine just grabbed a shell that was laying about. So apparently those count too. (NINJAEDIT: Yes, he was screaming for body parts and not specifically shell)[[Special:Contributions/81.225.92.197|81.225.92.197]] 13:44, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Yes, bone and shell as category are gone, they are now 'body parts'. Asking for them is common in a fey mood and you won't have to kill a dwarf for that. In fact, it wont even help you satisfy his needs. --[[User:Confused|Confused]]<br /> <br /> <br /> I think most of my dwarves were unhappy about one of my starting swarves dying, but I didn't check at the time. I've now got someone in a mood who has collected 3 large roach remains, and 1 firefly remains. She's brooding darkly, and the message is &quot;Leave me. I need things... certain things&quot;--[[Special:Contributions/78.151.176.4|78.151.176.4]] 15:59, 10 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == I think we need to do complete rearrange on mood materials ==<br /> <br /> I got fey mood and dorf kept screaming for &quot;rock bars&quot; and logs. He picked up logs, but not rock blocks. This is either bug, or new stuf I haven't figured out yet.<br /> --[[Special:Contributions/94.237.66.205|94.237.66.205]] 08:16, 7 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Rock bars means metal bars, I think. That what satisfied my fey dorf.<br /> <br /> :Are you sure it's not charcoal (edit: I meant coke) that they want? They could easily be considered 'rock' bars. I'm going to see now, I haven't got either now that he's collected my steel bars, so can check what he wants.--[[Special:Contributions/92.29.248.178|92.29.248.178]] 15:12, 11 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :My fey dwarf was not satisfied by my massive stockpile of metal bars, or the large amounts of (ore and not-ore) uncut stone, or the stone blocks I demanded produced en masse. I think rock bars are actually what he is looking for, and as they cannot be produced, I was forced to lose a metalsmith in a craftsdwarf's to a berserk rage, followed by two wrestlers and a pack of dogs. Tell him that it's a typo. --[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 03:15, 20 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :For me, ordinary metal bars were ignored until I made an adamantine wafer, but ymmv. --[[User:zergl|zergl]]<br /> <br /> Shame. Armoursmith only wanted one bar. If anyone else gets a chance, I'd love to see a charcoal / coke armoured wrestler take on a magma man ;P &lt;sup&gt;92.29.248.178, 18:39, 11 April 2010&lt;/sup&gt;<br /> <br /> I had a strange mood (possessed) with 17 dwarves, so the 'atleast 20 dwarves' condition should be removed. Also, the dwarf was struck with the mood right after he migrated to my fort. Right after, as in he was still 2 tiles away from the edge of the map. &lt;sup&gt;78.23.137.83, 15:32, 20 April 2010 &lt;/sup&gt;<br /> :I can confirm, 20 dwarfs are not needed for a mood.-[[User:Mhyder|mhyder]]<br /> :So it does appear that mood trigger conditions have changed. I'll try to do some disassembly and report what I find. &lt;br/&gt;&amp;mdash;[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 20:56, 20 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::(If anyone can find Truth, it's 0x5. He is personally responsible for 75%+ of the 40d info. You da man!)--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 21:05, 20 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Saving &amp; reloading not changing mood type ==<br /> <br /> Thanks to a crash, I had to reload my fortress, saved about a month before a strange mood. It occured at roughly the same time, with the same dwarf, with the same type of mood. The item was different however.-[[User:Studoku|Studoku]] 14:06, 22 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I believe that's expected behavior. The mood type, if I recall, is based on happiness of the dwarf, and thus should be consistent over loads. The type of craft is determined by their highest skill, unless they have no quality-based skill, in which case it's a toss up between useless woodcrafting, near-useless stonecrafting, and sweet sweet bonecarving. --[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 14:20, 22 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Mood types are ''generally'' not based on happiness and also not that hardwired to the state of the fort, meaning they are likely to change on reload. There are higher probabilities for some skills to get a mood and that makes it likely the same dwarf is chosen, esp. if the fort is small. There is a chance counter running down, usually resulting in a mood in the same time window on reload. What in fact has changed is that the item produced is determined on completion now, not on start out, allowing for even more &lt;s&gt;exploit&lt;/s&gt; tweaking. --[[Special:Contributions/92.202.66.218|92.202.66.218]] 16:03, 28 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Body Parts ==<br /> <br /> Just got a fey mood dwarf sking for them. -[[User:Studoku|Studoku]] 00:22, 26 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :He means bones or turtle shells. Get him some. --[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 02:01, 26 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think the word here is &quot;or&quot;, I have a dwarf shouting for body parts while bones pile high around him, so I'm guessing it really is Bones '''or''' shell, not either. -The Anon<br /> <br /> == Possible Bug ==<br /> <br /> I'm having an issue where occasionally a dwarf won't collect items I'm 100% sure I have available, i.e. he'll get leather and then ask for more even when more is clearly there, he'll ask for bones/wood when there's a stockpile right next to him, etc. I've tried just about everything including manually dumping the needed supplies on the Craftdwarf's workshop. Nothing seems to work and since it's happened to me many times, I'm thinking bug.--[[Special:Contributions/69.149.72.106|69.149.72.106]] 05:45, 28 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Dwarves in moods will continue to ask for the same list they started out asking for, regardless of which items they've already collected. They also collect them in order. So if he asks for:<br /> <br /> *leather<br /> *body parts<br /> *plant cloth<br /> *rough gems<br /> *leather<br /> <br /> :and he already has leather, bones, and plant cloth, he'll keep repeating the same list until rough gems are available, then go get them, then get more leather, then begin a mysterious construction.--[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 12:19, 28 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I may be seeing the same issue as above. I have a dwarf in a possessed mood locked in a workshop looking for:<br /> ::*rough...colour<br /> ::*stone...rock (has bauxite)<br /> ::*gems...shining (has indigo tourmalines)<br /> ::*tree...life (has palm logs)<br /> ::*bones...yes (has mule bones. I liked that mule)<br /> <br /> ::I'm unsure of the order they originally came up in, but of course I have uncut gems lying all over the place (including a store pile of cut and uncut gems about ten tiles away.)<br /> <br /> ::I'm also very new to DF, so I could be missing something. I'm going to save a copy of it as it is currently. [[User:Eddy the lip|Eddy the lip]] 19:25, 30 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::He may want rough glass, instead of normal gems. Dwarves can be picky. --[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 19:27, 30 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::::If he wanted raw glass, he should've been mumbling &quot;raw... [green/clear/crystal]&quot;. It was only in the old 2D version where &quot;rough gems&quot; (and its secretive/possessed equivalents) could occasionally mean &quot;raw glass&quot;. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 19:54, 30 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Yeah, rough glass didn't do it. I suppose there's the possibility that he requires a specific kind of rough gem. He has a preference for moss opals (I only have jelly opals.) If I can find some, and that works, I'll post back. Otherwise, I'll have to get work on the catacombs! [[User:Eddy the lip|Eddy the lip]] 20:18, 30 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Burrows also affect moody dwarves. If you have only a rock stockpile designated for the poor guy, he's trying to find bones and gems from within that burrow (stockpile).<br /> <br /> == Magma Workshops ==<br /> So, I just a had a Glassmaker be possessed and be unwilling (unable?) to claim a Magma glass furnace. When I built a regular furnace, he claimed it just fine and went on about his business. Not sure if this applies to all other magma disciplines, but if you're having this problem, try building a regular one (then deconstruct it afterwards, I guess). [[User:Rodya mirov|Rodya mirov]]<br /> : A magma forge worked for me. Just make sure it doesn't get unpowered after it has been claimed because the dwarf immediately ran amok when this happened. [[Special:Contributions/84.46.87.224|84.46.87.224]] 11:45, 9 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Obsidian Farming SCIENCE ==<br /> Someone needs to figure out definitely whether obsidian farming allows more moods.<br /> <br /> == 'Nother Possible Bug ==<br /> Today I was tending the fortress when my bookkeeper went into a secretive mood while on break in the dining hall. He did not claim a workshop, he did not sketch anything. He just sat there, slowly losing his mind until he finally went insane. I'm not sure what I did wrong. Right now the game is paused with the still-insane dwarf just sitting amongst all the others. I'm afraid to unpause it because I really don't want to see what's going to happen to the little bastard. [[User:PurelyAtomic|PurelyAtomic]]<br /> <br /> ::Maybe you didn't have the workshop he needed? The symptoms seem to match. --[[User:Speed112|Speed112]] 01:01, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Later that year a different dwarf, a Stonecrafter, was possessed. He holed himself up in his workshop and made a Claystone scepter called the Stin Shadmal. It's worth a ridiculous amount. [[User:PurelyAtomic|PurelyAtomic]] 00:57, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Yet another possible bug ==<br /> <br /> My leatherworker was possessed, claimed a leather works, then wanted leather and cut gems. I tan a hide, cut about 7 or 8 gems, then about 20 minutes later, I see &quot;Degel Zefonusan has begun a mysterious construction!&quot;. I go over, look at the items in the workshop, and find out he took 3 units of donkey leather. I think there should be some way of finding out how many of a certain thing he needs. This caused a lot of confusion for me.--[[User:Joejr50|Joejr50]] 20:18, 23 May 2010 (UTC)</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31:Strange_mood&diff=114603 2010-05-23T19:27:46Z

<p>Joejr50: </p> <hr /> <div>{{quality|Tattered|08:00, 22 May 2010 (UTC)}}{{av}}<br /> <br /> {{buggy|bugsection=Bugs}}<br /> Periodically, individual dwarves are struck with an idea for a [[legendary artifact]] and enter a '''strange mood'''. Dwarves which enter a strange mood will stop whatever they are doing and pursue the construction of this artifact to the exclusion of all else. They will not stop to eat, drink, sleep, or even run away from dangerous creatures. If they do not manage to begin construction of the artifact within a handful of months, they will go [[#Failure|insane]] and die soon afterward.<br /> <br /> ==Overview==<br /> <br /> # The conditions necessary for a strange mood to occur: ''fill in here''<br /> # The game will pause, center on a dwarf, and announce that the dwarf has entered one of five different types of strange moods. The [[#Types|types of mood]] are listed below. While in a mood, a dwarf will display a blinking exclamation point (see [[status icons]]).<br /> # For the duration of the mood, the dwarf will claim a workshop related to the skill that the mood affects (not all skills are eligible), kick out any dwarf who was using it, and render it otherwise unusable until the mood has been resolved. If a moody dwarf does not claim a workshop, it is because the appropriate workshop does not exist. (See [[#Skills and workshops|skills and workshops]] below to determine which workshop(s) might be required.) A moody dwarf will ''not'' be available to build a needed workshop; another dwarf with the appropriate [[labor]] designation must do so for them, if one is necessary.<br /> # After claiming a workshop, the dwarf will set about collecting the required materials for their artifact. If the dwarf remains idle inside the workshop, it's because they cannot find the right material. Reference the [[#Demands|demands]] section to determine what may be required. Important Note: They will only collect these materials IN THE ORDER THAT THEY REQUIRE THEM. In other words, you have to determine where they are on the list of required materials and then provide the next one before they will continue collecting other materials.<br /> # Once all materials have been gathered, the game will once again pause and center, and the moody dwarf will begin construction. Upon completion the dwarf will create a semi-random artifact related to the skill affected and gain [[legendary]] (or higher) status in that skill (unless the mood type is [[#Possessed|possessed]]). See the [[#Skills and workshops|skills and workshops]] for information on which skills can be gained, or the [[#Artifacts created|artifacts created]] section for more details on the artifacts themselves.<br /> <br /> == Types of moods ==<br /> For each of the following types of moods, the first message is how the mood is [[40d:Announcement|announced]]; the second message appears in the dwarf's profile when he or she is viewed with the {{K|v}} key. All moody dwarves will have &quot;Strange Mood&quot; listed as their active task.<br /> <br /> === Fey ===<br /> * {{Gametext|&lt;dwarf&gt; is taken by a fey mood!|7:1}}<br /> : ''Has the aspect of one fey!''<br /> <br /> This is the most basic strange mood. Fey dwarves will clearly state their demands when the workshop they are in is examined.<br /> <br /> A fey dwarf's happiness is automatically set to 'quite content'.<br /> <br /> === Secretive ===<br /> * {{Gametext|&lt;dwarf&gt; withdraws from society...|7:0}}<br /> : ''Peculiarly secretive...''<br /> <br /> Secretive moods are the same as fey moods, except a secretive dwarf will sketch pictures of their required materials instead of clearly stating their demands if they cannot find what they need. Descriptions of all these [[#Demands|secretive requirements]] can be seen only by viewing the workshop that the moody dwarf has claimed, with {{k|q}}, and then only while the dwarf is waiting inside it. More than one &quot;picture&quot; is likely; these will cycle through the entire list automatically if any one is not available. (Since materials are gathered ''in order'', it's quite possible that only one of a long list is needed to allow the moody dwarf to continue on their project. If the dwarf has gathered some of the materials (seen as &quot;tasked&quot; when looking at the workshop with {{k|t}}), then the next in the list is what they are looking for.)<br /> <br /> A secretive dwarf's happiness is automatically set to 'quite content'.<br /> <br /> === Possessed ===<br /> * {{Gametext|&lt;dwarf&gt; has been possessed!|5:1}}<br /> : ''Possessed by unknown forces!''<br /> <br /> Possessed dwarves have cryptic material requests, and have the unfortunate distinction of not receiving any experience upon successful construction of an artifact. It is unknown if controllable circumstances lead to a possessed mood instead of one of the more desirable fey or secretive moods. Possessed dwarves will mutter the name of the artifact they are working on once they have all the materials they need.<br /> <br /> A possession is the only mood that does ''not'' result in a jump in [[experience]].<br /> <br /> A possessed dwarf's happiness is automatically set to 'quite content'.<br /> <br /> === Fell {{verify}} ===<br /> * {{Gametext|&lt;dwarf&gt; looses a roaring laughter, fell and terrible!|5:0}}<br /> : ''Has a horrible fell look!''<br /> <br /> A dwarf that goes into a fell mood will always take over a [[40d:butcher's shop|butcher's shop]] or a [[40d:tanner's shop|tanner's shop]]. If neither are available, any other workshop will be used instead. The dwarf will then ''murder'' the nearest dwarf, drag the corpse into the shop and make some sort of object out of dwarf [[40d:leather|leather]] or [[40d:bone|bone]]. Once the artifact is completed, the fell dwarf will become a legendary [[40d:bone carver|bone carver]] or [[40d:leatherworker|leatherworker]]. Strangely, none of the other dwarves seem to mind the murder. Only unhappy dwarves may enter a fell mood.<br /> <br /> Aside from the potential loss of an important dwarf in the wrong place at the wrong time, there doesn't seem to be any downside to a fell mood. The end result is always an artifact and a legendary craftsdwarf. Since the only ingredient used (a dwarf) is available in abundance, a fell mood will only fail if the fell dwarf is completely isolated from other dwarves, or if the proper workshop does not exist.<br /> <br /> <br /> === Macabre ===<br /> * {{Gametext|&lt;dwarf&gt; begins to stalk and brood...|0:1}}<br /> : ''Brooding darkly...''<br /> <br /> Macabre moods are similar to fell moods, but the dwarf will not murder a fellow dwarf. A macabre dwarf may require bones{{verify}}, skulls{{verify}} or remains; if you do not happen to have any, you will have to make some, e.g. by butchering an animal{{verify}}, or let the moody dwarf go insane. Like fell moods, only unhappy dwarves can enter macabre moods.<br /> <br /> ==Caveats==<br /> * Shells are a common request in moods and are only produced from preparing raw turtles or lobsters at a fishery. That is, you must be able to fish them at your site, there is no way of trading for them.<br /> * Dwarves may request &quot;rock bars&quot; -- This is satisfied by metal bars.<br /> <br /> ==Bugs==<br /> {{version|0.31.03}}<br /> * There are bugs reported related to moody dwarves. As has been the case in 40d, most turned out to be (understandable) failures of the player to grasp the mechanics of artifact creation and demands. Bug tracker: [http://bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view_all_bug_page.php]<br /> <br /> <br /> {{Spoiler}}<br /> <br /> == Demands ==<br /> Once a workshop is claimed, the dwarf will begin collecting materials. Each artifact will require between one and ten materials to complete. If the moody dwarf remains idle, then the necessary materials are not available. [[Forbidden]] items must be reclaimed ({{K|d}} - {{K|b}} - {{K|c}}) before they may be used, but moody dwarves will ignore settings regarding [[economic stone]]. Press {{K|q}} and highlight the workshop to receive a series of clues about what the dwarf needs. Hints that stay active for longer than 2 seconds mean that multiple pieces of that material will be required; each single demand will be displayed for 2 seconds, so if it says &quot;gems... shining&quot; for 6 seconds, 3 gems are demanded. Materials will always be fetched ''in order'', so if at least one item has already been retrieved (the items will show up with &quot;TSK&quot; (&quot;task&quot;) next to them when the workshop is viewed with the {{K|t}} context menu), it will usually be possible to tell what item is required next.<br /> <br /> If you want your dwarves to construct their artifacts out of valuable materials instead of whatever useless thing happens to be close at hand, you can selectively forbid types of material through the stocks screen so that only the material you want them to use is available; though this might interfere with the normal crafting operations of your fortress, the disruption is generally short-lived (as long as you remember to unforbid them again afterwards!). You can even forbid something a moody dwarf is carrying (which may be necessary sometimes, since while they are not waiting in the workshop they will not tell you what they need); the dwarf will finish hauling it to the workshop, but then immediately go searching for another. This trick can mean the difference between a bauxite statue decorated with moss agates and a native platinum statue encrusted with diamonds.<br /> <br /> As of DF2010, burrows seem to allow even better control over moody dwarfs' material usage. Simply by creating a burrow around claimed workshop and another part over desired material, moody dwarf can be controlled without forbidding every single stone in fortress. <br /> Moody dwarf will follow the burrow-definitions just like a regular worker.<br /> <br /> The various demands are translated here:<br /> <br /> :{| class=&quot;wikitable&quot; style=&quot;text-align:left;width:90%;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! Material<br /> ! Fey<br /> ! Secretive<br /> ! Possessed<br /> |-<br /> |<br /> | &lt;dwarf&gt; screams &quot;I must have &lt;demand&gt;!&quot;<br /> | &lt;dwarf&gt; sketches pictures of &lt;demand&gt;.<br /> | &lt;dwarf&gt; mutters &quot;&lt;artifact&gt; needs &lt;demand&gt;...&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | [[Stone]]<br /> | rock<br /> | a quarry<br /> | stone... rock<br /> |-<br /> | Stone [[block]]<br /> | rock blocks<br /> | square blocks<br /> | blocks... bricks<br /> |-<br /> | [[Wood]]<br /> | wood logs<br /> | a forest<br /> | tree... life<br /> |-<br /> | Metal [[bar]]<br /> | metal bars<br /> | shining bars of metal<br /> | bars... metal<br /> |-<br /> | [[Gem]]s (cut)<br /> | cut gems<br /> | cut gems<br /> | gems... shining<br /> |-<br /> | [[Gem]]s (raw)<br /> | rough gems<br /> | rough gems<br /> | rough... color<br /> |-<br /> | [[Glass]] (green)<br /> | raw green glass<br /> | glass<br /> | raw... green<br /> |-<br /> | [[Glass]] (clear)<br /> | clear glass{{verify}}<br /> | glass and burning wood<br /> | raw... clear<br /> |-<br /> | [[Glass]] (crystal)<br /> | crystal glass{{verify}}<br /> | rough gems and glass<br /> | raw... crystal<br /> |-<br /> | [[Bone]]<br /> | bones<br /> | skeletons<br /> | bones... yes<br /> |-<br /> | [[Shell]]<br /> | shells<br /> | a shell<br /> | a shell...<br /> |-<br /> | [[Leather]]<br /> | tanned hides<br /> | stacked leather<br /> | leather... skin<br /> |-<br /> | [[Cloth]] (plant)<br /> | plant fiber cloth<br /> | stacked cloth<br /> | cloth... thread<br /> |-<br /> | [[Cloth]] (silk)<br /> | silk cloth<br /> | stacked cloth<br /> | cloth... thread<br /> |-<br /> | [[Bones]] or [[Shell]]<br /> | body parts<br /> |<br /> |<br /> |}<br /> <br /> Fey dwarves will sometimes ask for rock bars. This is just a typographical error, and they are actually asking for one of several objects. &lt;sup&gt;(Disputed -- [[DF2010 Talk:Strange mood|Discuss]])&lt;/sup&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> === Skills and workshops ===<br /> <br /> {| class=&quot;wikitable&quot; cellpadding=&quot;4&quot; style=&quot;border:1px solid black;border-collapse:collapse;text-align:left;float:right;margin:0 0 20px 30px;&quot;<br /> |-<br /> ! colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#eee;border-bottom:1px solid black;text-align:center;&quot; | Artifact Skill Rewards<br /> |- <br /> ! Highest skill<br /> ! Workshop used<br /> |- style=&quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&quot;<br /> | {{L|Armorsmith}}<br /> | {{L|Magma forge}} or {{L|Metalsmith's forge}}<br /> |- style=&quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&quot;<br /> | {{L|Bone carver}}<br /> | {{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}<br /> |- style=&quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&quot;<br /> | {{L|Bowyer}}<br /> | {{L|Bowyer's workshop}}<br /> |- style=&quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&quot;<br /> | {{L|Carpenter}}<br /> | {{L|Carpenter's workshop}}<br /> |- style=&quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&quot;<br /> | {{L|Clothier}}<br /> | {{L|Clothier's shop}}<br /> |- style=&quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&quot;<br /> | {{L|Engraver}}<br /> | {{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}} or {{L|Mason's workshop}}<br /> |- style=&quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&quot;<br /> | {{L|Gem cutter}}<br /> | {{L|Jeweler's workshop}}<br /> |- style=&quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&quot;<br /> | {{L|Gem setter}}<br /> | {{L|Jeweler's workshop}}<br /> |- style=&quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&quot;<br /> | {{L|Glassmaker}}<br /> | {{L|Glass furnace}} or {{L|Magma glass furnace}}<br /> |- style=&quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&quot;<br /> | {{L|Leatherworker}}<br /> | {{L|Leatherworks}}<br /> |- style=&quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&quot;<br /> | {{L|Mason}}<br /> | {{L|Mason's workshop}}<br /> |- style=&quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&quot;<br /> | {{L|Mechanic}}<br /> | {{L|Mechanic's workshop}}<br /> |- style=&quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&quot;<br /> | {{L|Metal crafter}}<br /> | {{L|Magma forge}} or {{L|Metalsmith's forge}}<br /> |- style=&quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&quot;<br /> | {{L|Metalsmith}}<br /> | {{L|Magma forge}} or {{L|Metalsmith's forge}}<br /> |- style=&quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&quot;<br /> | {{L|Miner}}<br /> | {{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}} or {{L|Mason's workshop}}<br /> |- style=&quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&quot;<br /> | {{L|Stone crafter}}<br /> | {{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}<br /> |- style=&quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&quot;<br /> | {{L|Tanner}}<br /> | {{L|Tanner's shop}} or {{L|Leather works}}<br /> |- style=&quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&quot;<br /> | {{L|Weaponsmith}}<br /> | {{L|Magma forge}} or {{L|Metalsmith's forge}}<br /> |- style=&quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&quot;<br /> | {{L|Weaver}}<br /> | {{L|Clothier's shop}}<br /> |- style=&quot;border-top:1px solid #aaa;vertical-align:top;&quot;<br /> | {{L|Wood crafter}}<br /> | {{L|Craftsdwarf's workshop}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> == Artifacts created ==<br /> The type of artifact created will depend on the dwarf's highest skill. Masons will always create some kind of stone object, usually furniture; bone Carvers, a bone or shell object; carpenters, a wood object, etc. Miners and engravers will usually turn out a stone craft or piece of furniture; metalworkers, metal crafts, weapons, or armor (depending on the type of metalworker); weavers, an article of clothing; tanners, a leather armor or object. If a dwarf has no moodable skills, they will take over a [[craftsdwarf's workshop]] and create a bone, stone or wood craft of some type. The precise type of craft created is usually somewhat random but if a dwarf has a personality preference for a particular thing, such as gauntlets or floodgates or crowns, and that thing is an available choice given the dwarf's profession, they will generally create an object of that type.<br /> <br /> The first object grabbed by the dwarf will be the &quot;primary&quot; substance; all other materials will be used to decorate the artifact. If a dwarf grabs a piece of [[chalk]] and makes a statue, for instance, it will be a &quot;chalk statue&quot;, but an artifact can potentially be composed of bone, cloth, gems, leather, metal, shell, stone, and wood all at once. In some cases, a moody dwarf will produce an item which normally cannot be made from that material, leading to such odd constructions as an [[obsidian]] [[bed]], [[ruby]] [[floodgate]], or turtle [[shell]] [[cage]].<br /> <br /> Once created, most [[artifact]]s will be available for use just like a normal item of its type. Artifact furniture is useful for high value [[noble]] rooms. Artifact weapons in [[weapon trap]]s can also boost a room's value considerably, as in the case of artifact trap components.<br /> <br /> == Failure ==<br /> If you can't provide the desired workshop and all the required component materials within a couple of months, the dwarf will go {{L|insanity|insane}}, which cancels the mood and the artifact. As if that's not bad enough, any dwarf who goes insane will soon die, one way or another.<br /> <br /> A dwarf who is '''stark raving mad''' or '''melancholy''' is harmless to others (until they die and start a {{L|tantrum}} spiral), but a '''berserk''' dwarf will attack other dwarfs and possibly pull levers at random. You may want to station a squad nearby or assign a few war dogs to the dwarf on the chance that they will lash out. If you build your workshops inside enclosed rooms with doors you can also lock the moody dwarf in the room until he or she starves. In extreme cases, building a wall around an open workshop is the best precaution.</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31:Construction&diff=114353 2010-05-22T23:24:30Z

<p>Joejr50: </p> <hr /> <div>{{av}}{{Quality|Tattered|23:24, 22 May 2010 (UTC)}} <br /> <br /> '''Constructions''' are buildings such as {{L|floor|floors}}, {{L|wall|walls}} and {{L|stair|stairs}}. They can be made of any solid material, {{L|wood}}, {{L|stone}}, {{L|metal}} or {{L|glass}}, and are accessed by pressing the {{k|b}}uild-{{k|C}}onstruction keys.</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31:Smelter&diff=110863 2010-05-17T23:01:21Z

<p>Joejr50: </p> <hr /> <div>{{av}}<br /> {{Furnace|name=Smelter|key=s|job={{L|Furnace operator}}<br /> |construction=<br /> 1 of<br /> * {{L|Stone}}<br /> * {{L|Block}}<br /> |construction_job=<br /> * {{L|Architecture}}<br /> |use=<br /> * {{L|Ore}}<br /> * {{L|Coke}} or {{L|Charcoal}} ({{L|Fuel}})<br /> * Meltable {{L|metal}} item<br /> * {{L|Bituminous coal}}<br /> * {{L|Lignite}}<br /> * {{L|Flux}}<br /> |production=<br /> * Metal {{L|Bar}}s<br /> * {{L|Coke}}<br /> }}<br /> {{Quality|Tattered}}<br /> <br /> A Smelter uses [[fuel]] to smelt [[ores]] into items or to melt existing metal objects.<br /> <br /> {{Workshops}}</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31:Steam&diff=110371 2010-05-17T00:17:30Z

<p>Joejr50: </p> <hr /> <div>{{av}}<br /> {{Quality|Tattered}}<br /> '''Steam''' is created from the mixing of {{L|magma}} and {{L|water}}. This is distinct from {{L|mist}}, a similar looking product of water falling, or {{L|smoke}}.<br /> <br /> In older versions, steam would cause massive {{L|wound|injuries}} and death. Currently steam is harmless but still rendered. <br /> <br /> Another product of water and magma mixing is {{L|obsidian}}.<br /> <br /> [[Category:World]]</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31:Shale&diff=110370 2010-05-17T00:06:09Z

<p>Joejr50: </p> <hr /> <div>{{layerlookup/0}}{{av}}{{Quality|Tattered}}<br /> <br /> {{gamedata}}<br /> {{Rocks}}</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=File_talk:DFG3.jpg&diff=107820 2010-05-09T16:37:56Z

<p>Joejr50: </p> <hr /> <div>Sooo...one dwarf watches in amazement as the other eats a tree? -Hippoman<br /> <br /> What you need to do is set each chair as its own study/throne room. --[[User:CrazyMcfobo|CrazyMcfobo]] 20:05, 14 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> That is an everyday scene of a dwarf eating a plump helmet.--[[User:Joejr50|Joejr50]] 16:37, 9 May 2010 (UTC)</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31_Talk:Farming&diff=103465 2010-05-05T02:31:06Z

<p>Joejr50: /* Farming Chart */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>Placing a farm on rock<br /> Needs Soil or mud<br /> No Mud for underground farm<br /> Mud is left by water<br /> <br /> Placing a farm on surface soil<br /> No Mud for underground farm<br /> Mud is left by water<br /> <br /> Placing a farm on mud found in an underground complex<br /> &lt;&lt;No Error Message&gt;&gt;<br /> <br /> So This is either a major bug, or a mechanics change and a minor text inconsistency.[[User:Doctorzuber|Doctorzuber]] 22:35, 1 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :This is a bug. You're supposed to be able to farm on soil. I'll try to track down the forum thread, one moment --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 22:37, 1 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Aha, so saith the Baughn: http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=51951.msg1123336#msg1123336<br /> :--[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 22:41, 1 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Merge ==<br /> I don't see why we need a separate page for [[Farm Plot]] and [[Farming]]. Merger anyone? [[User:Kenji 03|Kenji 03]] 12:28, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Also, labors are typically described in their respective skill page. In this case, [[DF2010:Farmer|Farmer]] --[[User:Eagle0600|Eagle0600]] 13:05, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Both pages exist as full pages in the 40d namespace, in addition to a farmer page. This suggests that there is sufficient material for all three pages, although someone would need to spend more time reviewing how the topic space was divided in 40d to figure out why. --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 13:44, 6 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Farming desribes the concept, plant uses, importance, possibilites and caveats; Overview. Farm plot goes right down to 'key-pressing' and 'cursor-moving', that is, details and step-to-step. Ultimately it is an article on a building. I don't recall ever using the page Farm plot, but I think we should keep the 2. Looking over the old versions, I think the distinction should be made clearer, though. --[[User:Birthright|Birthright]] 14:34, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::I agree, but with all the new info and users this approach seems not viable for now. --[[User:Confused|Confused]] 18:56, 13 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Farming Chart ==<br /> <br /> [[Image:Df-crops-diagram.png|thumb|200px|General farming flowchart.]]<br /> I found this chart to the right in the 40d farming page. I was just wondering if it is still current, so we can put it in the current page.</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=File_talk:AbortedCrisis.png&diff=102132 2010-05-02T01:29:44Z

<p>Joejr50: </p> <hr /> <div>Shouldn't it be &quot;AvertedCrisis&quot;? --[[User:Dexterddawg|Dexterddawg]] 12:02, 14 July 2009 (UTC)<br /> : because it's stopping [[Fun]] [[User:Soul4hdwn|Soul4hdwn]] 09:38, 18 August 2009 (UTC)<br /> :: Nope, &quot;Crisis aborted&quot; is regularly used. [[User:Pariah|Pariah]] 17:09, 11 November 2009 (UTC)<br /> This would be great for a dwarven Monty Hall game. &quot;Will you pick door number 1, door number 2, or door number 3?&quot; &quot;I choose door number 2!&quot; &quot;You get ... Magma!&quot; [[User:Strant|Strant]] 18:11, 27 September 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> There's a stone wall inside the door...<br /> <br /> <br /> What is that graphics set? --[[User:Natti|Natti]] 13:06, 20 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> aw, you could've had lots of [[fun]].</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31:Cheating&diff=101268 2010-04-30T20:36:17Z

<p>Joejr50: </p> <hr /> <div>{{AV}}<br /> {{fine}}<br /> {{mod}}<br /> <br /> '''Cheating''' is altering the game to make dwarf fortress easier. This is distinctly different from [[exploits]]. There are two main ways to alter the game: changing the game's raw source files (which are really just text files), and directly altering the game's memory (which requires special tools).<br /> <br /> <br /> =Raw Editing=<br /> <br /> Raw files are located in the raw/objects directory<br /> <br /> The most common use of editing raw files is to get free items, such as gems, adamantine, or flux. <br /> <br /> When changing the raw files, you may or may not need to create a new world in order for your changes to be reflected.<br /> <br /> Generally speaking, ''modifications'' to an existing entry in a raw file don't require a new world. Altering existing reactions or creatures is an example of this.<br /> <br /> However, when adding or deleting entries, you need to create a new world for the changes to take place, and when deleting, it can and probably will render your old world unplayable as attempting to play worlds generated before the deletion will cause an error.<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Creature Token Modifications==<br /> Modifying creature files does not require the creation of a new world. You can modify the physical attributes of a creature, make animals tamable and trainable, make your dwarves into short little bearded terminators, and much more.<br /> <br /> ===Speedy Dwarves===<br /> Getting bored with slow dwarves?<br /> <br /> Go into the creature_standard file and add the [SPEED:1] in somewhere in the top section of the entry.(or SPEED:0 if you're up to some psychedelic light speed traveling)<br /> <br /> This will make your dwarves do the majority of their actions '''''super''''' fast, including moving, digging and workshop actions.<br /> <br /> This may, ironically, lower FPS when a high population is present, but no more than what doing many actions at once would.<br /> <br /> ===No Needs Dwarves===<br /> <br /> Not wanting to care for your dwarves? simply add [NO_EAT], [NO_SLEEP], and [NO_DRINK] to your dwarves raws and never care for them again.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> As an added bonus, try adding [NOFEAR], [NOBREATHE], [NOSTUN], [NONAUSEA], [NOPAIN], [NO_DIZZINESS], [NO_FEVERS], and [NOEXERT] as well.<br /> <br /> ===Pets for everyone===<br /> Ever want Cave dragons, Giant cave spiders, or even Helmet snakes for pets? Simply add [PET] and [COMMON_DOMESTIC] to the creature of your choice then generate a new world. Enjoy killing the local elephant population with your army of Giant cave spiders.<br /> <br /> ''Note: Pets may be '''expensive'''. ''<br /> <br /> ==Reaction Additions==<br /> There are now two reaction files: reaction_smelter and reaction_other. Additions to these lists will not take effect until you generate a new world. Note that if you edit an existing reaction entry (leaving the [REACTION:NAME] line unchanged) rather than add a new one, you will not need to generate a new world. Don't forget to add [PERMITTED_REACTION:(reaction)] under [ENTITY:MOUNTAIN] in entity_default raw.<br /> <br /> ===Free Gems===<br /> Fill in the name of a gem from the inorganic_stone_gem file and paste this in the reaction_smelter file to make your smelter spew out gems.<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> [REACTION:FREE_(gem name here)]<br /> [NAME:make (gem name here)]<br /> [BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]<br /> [PRODUCT:100:10:ROUGH:NO_SUBTYPE:STONE:(gem name {from raws})]<br /> [SKILL:SMELT]<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> Note: You can change the skill used and the workshop, but make sure to keep it in the correct reaction file.<br /> For convience, here are all the precious gems in the game.<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> [REACTION:FREE_DIAMOND_LY]<br /> [NAME: make light yellow diamonds]<br /> [BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]<br /> [PRODUCT:100:10:ROUGH:NO_SUBTYPE:STONE:DIAMOND_LY]<br /> [SKILL:SMELT]<br /> <br /> [REACTION:FREE_DIAMOND_FY]<br /> [NAME: make faint yellow diamonds]<br /> [BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]<br /> [PRODUCT:100:10:ROUGH:NO_SUBTYPE:STONE:DIAMOND_FY]<br /> [SKILL:SMELT]<br /> <br /> [REACTION:FREE_EMERALD]<br /> [NAME: make emeralds]<br /> [BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]<br /> [PRODUCT:100:10:ROUGH:NO_SUBTYPE:STONE:EMERALD]<br /> [SKILL:SMELT]<br /> <br /> [REACTION:FREE_RUBY]<br /> [NAME: make rubies]<br /> [BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]<br /> [PRODUCT:100:10:ROUGH:NO_SUBTYPE:STONE:RUBY]<br /> [SKILL:SMELT]<br /> <br /> [REACTION:FREE_SAPPHIRE]<br /> [NAME: make sapphires]<br /> [BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]<br /> [PRODUCT:100:10:ROUGH:NO_SUBTYPE:STONE:SAPPHIRE]<br /> [SKILL:SMELT]<br /> <br /> [REACTION:FREE_DIAMOND_CLEAR]<br /> [NAME: make clear diamonds]<br /> [BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]<br /> [PRODUCT:100:10:ROUGH:NO_SUBTYPE:STONE:DIAMOND_CLEAR]<br /> [SKILL:SMELT]<br /> <br /> [REACTION:FREE_DIAMOND_RED]<br /> [NAME: make red diamonds]<br /> [BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]<br /> [PRODUCT:100:10:ROUGH:NO_SUBTYPE:STONE:DIAMOND_RED]<br /> [SKILL:SMELT]<br /> <br /> [REACTION:FREE_DIAMOND_GREEN]<br /> [NAME: make green diamond]<br /> [BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]<br /> [PRODUCT:100:10:ROUGH:NO_SUBTYPE:STONE:DIAMOND_GREEN]<br /> [SKILL:SMELT]<br /> <br /> [REACTION:FREE_DIAMOND_BLUE]<br /> [NAME: make blue diamonds]<br /> [BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]<br /> [PRODUCT:100:10:ROUGH:NO_SUBTYPE:STONE:DIAMOND_BLUE]<br /> [SKILL:SMELT]<br /> <br /> [REACTION:FREE_DIAMOND_YELLOW]<br /> [NAME: make yellow diamonds]<br /> [BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]<br /> [PRODUCT:100:10:ROUGH:NO_SUBTYPE:STONE:DIAMOND_YELLOW]<br /> [SKILL:SMELT]<br /> <br /> [REACTION:FREE_DIAMOND_BLACK]<br /> [NAME: make black diamonds]<br /> [BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]<br /> [PRODUCT:100:10:ROUGH:NO_SUBTYPE:STONE:DIAMOND_BLACK]<br /> [SKILL:SMELT]<br /> <br /> [REACTION:FREE_RUBY_STAR]<br /> [NAME: make star rubies]<br /> [BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]<br /> [PRODUCT:100:10:ROUGH:NO_SUBTYPE:STONE:RUBY_STAR]<br /> [SKILL:SMELT]<br /> <br /> [REACTION:FREE_SAPPHIRE_STAR]<br /> [NAME: make star sapphires]<br /> [BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]<br /> [PRODUCT:100:10:ROUGH:NO_SUBTYPE:STONE:SAPPHIRE_STAR]<br /> [SKILL:SMELT]<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ===Easy Adamantine===<br /> To get free adamantine wafers, add this to your reaction_smelter.<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> [REACTION:FREE_ADAMANTINE_WAFERS]<br /> [NAME:create adamantine wafers]<br /> [BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]<br /> [PRODUCT:100:10:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:ADAMANTINE][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]<br /> [SKILL:SMELT]<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> It appears that, in some cases, starting out a new world with this in the reaction file can lead to all civilizations being Forgotten Beasts; thus, it may be better to add it after world creation, since Forgotten Beasts cannot work.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> For adamantine thread it would be:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> [REACTION:FREE_ADAMANTINE_THREAD]<br /> [NAME:create adamantine thread]<br /> [BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]<br /> [PRODUCT:100:1:THREAD:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:ADAMANTINE][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:15000]<br /> [SKILL:SMELT]<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> ===Easy Flux, Sand, and Ore===<br /> Add [REACTION_CLASS:FLUX] to any stone you have to turn it into a flux. This is in inorganic_stone_mineral, or inorganic_stone_layer Or, add [METAL_ORE:{metal name}:100] to turn it into an ore. It also bears noting that the metal can easily be an alloy, like steel or brass. Likewise, open inorganic_stone_soil and add [SOIL_SAND] to any soil to turn it into sand suitable for making glass with. <br /> <br /> None of these cheats require creating a new world. Turn peat into glass, basalt into platinum, and combine iron, diorite, and coal to make steel.<br /> <br /> <br /> ===Easy Metal===<br /> Open reaction_smelter and change any reactions you like. Remove the [FUEL] tag.<br /> to make them require no fuel. Remove the line(s) headed with [REAGENT:whatever] to make them require no reagents. You can pick any metal that exists in the game, as long as you pick the right raw name. (For example: IRON, PEWTER_LAY, and NICKEL_SILVER makes iron, lay pewter, and nickle silver respectively.)<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> [REACTION:FREE_(metal name here)]<br /> [NAME:create (metal name here)]<br /> [BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]<br /> [PRODUCT:100:1:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:(metal name {from raws})][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]<br /> [SKILL:SMELT]<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> These cheats do not require a new world (because they only modify existing reactions), and allow my smelters to create steel and adamantine from nothing. It's probably easier, though, to mod some bulk stone into the ore you need and go from there.<br /> <br /> ===Create Wood===<br /> To create wood for free, Add this to reaction_smelter. (don't forget the wood type. Like OAK, PINE, TOWER_CAP, or FUNGIWOOD.)<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> [REACTION:FREE_WOOD]<br /> [NAME:create wood]<br /> [BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]<br /> [PRODUCT:100:5:WOOD:NO_SUBTYPE:PLANT_MAT:(wood name {from raws}):WOOD][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]<br /> [SKILL:SMELT]<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31_Talk:Cheating&diff=101266 2010-04-30T20:30:24Z

<p>Joejr50: /* more bonuses */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>==Free Food==<br /> Anyone know how to update my &quot;Free Food&quot; hack?--[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 05:11, 8 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> : The following works. Don't forget to add it to raw/objects/entity_default.text and then regen your world like the others. Modify as needed for any other plant.<br /> <br /> ::&lt;pre&gt;<br /> ::[REACTION:F_PLUMP_HELMETS]<br /> ::[NAME:create plump helmets]<br /> ::[BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]<br /> ::[PRODUCT:100:10:PLANT:NO_SUBTYPE:PLANT_MAT:MUSHROOM_HELMET_PLUMP][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]<br /> ::[SKILL:SMELT]<br /> ::&lt;/pre&gt;<br /> :-20:18, 20 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> ::Is the PRODUCT_DIMENSION actually necessary? --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 20:24, 20 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :::I'm not actually sure. I just modified the Free_Wood reaction that was listed on the page to create plump helmets. -21:10, 23 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Relevance==<br /> Does the site finder stuff still have relevance? If not, I don't think it has any business being here. [[User:Deimos56|Deimos]] 21:33, 9 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Such features do not even exist in the old sense, they've either been removed or integrated into the current world geography in such a way that &quot;finding&quot; them would be pointless. Regardless of that reasoning, I tested it and it does not reveal anything. Removing... [[User:Trorbes|Trorbes]] 05:25, 11 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Help== <br /> Anyone know why the pre-made rawhacks available on this page don't work for me? I've created a new world, everything...<br /> *I believe you have to add the reaction to the civilisation's entity definition now - look in entity_default.txt --[[User:Samthere|Samthere]] 01:30, 11 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> **Thanks. I'll try that.<br /> <br /> ==Reengineered==<br /> <br /> *Is there a reason why you replaced functional additions to raws with incomplete additions to raws and modifications to existing raws that mess up original reactions?<br /> <br /> Please check that whatever you add is correct and complete material.<br /> *the reactions were working just fine for me as they are, so I assumed it was unnecessary. Presumably there was some sort of fluke for me. -[[User:Reengineered|Reengineered]]<br /> **the reactions you listed would do nothing on their own for anyone else who added them because they also require coresponding entries of PERMITTED_REACTION to entity_default.txt under ENTITY:MOUNTAIN. I suggest you read the material you deleted to see how reactions are done properly or consult modding tutorials on the forum. There should be a minimum quality standard on wiki so that the content is whole and useful.<br /> <br /> ==Shells==<br /> Anyone have a method to allow you to get shells in a map without turtles without creating a new world. Everything I've tried so far has failed miserably.<br /> * you can add shell as body part to existing animal by making additions to their raws and then butcher them for shell, search the modding sub-forum for details<br /> <br /> == more bonuses ==<br /> <br /> in addition to [NOFEAR] and others, you could add [EXTRAVISION], [NOTHOUGHT], AND [NOEMOTION] as well. I actually got them from the bronze collossus.</div>

Joejr50 https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=v0.31:Aluminum&diff=100133 2010-04-27T14:27:08Z

<p>Joejr50: </p> <hr /> <div>{{av}}<br /> {{elven}}<br /> {{Metal<br /> |name=Aluminum<br /> |color={{COLOR:7:0:1}} <br /> |bgcolor={{COLOR:0:7:0}} <br /> |uses=<br /> * {{L|Metalsmith's forge|Metal crafting}}<br /> |ore=<br /> * {{L|Native aluminum}} <br /> |properties=<br /> * {{L|Material value}} 40<br /> }}<br /> <br /> {{gamedata<br /> }}<br /> <br /> Other than adamantine, aluminum is one of the two highest-valued common metals in the game (the other being {{l|platinum}}). It is the second lightest metal, next to adamantine again.<br /> <br /> Aluminum can be used as decoration, or to create {{l|furniture}} and other objects. Aluminum cannot be forged into {{l|weapons}} or {{l|armor}}.<br /> <br /> {{Category|Metals}}</div>

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