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		<title>40d Talk:Magma</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MOOMANiBE: Name again.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Are you certain that steel is a requirement for metals in contact with magma? This info conflicts with the [[Magma smelter]] article, which state that using [[Fire-safe materials]] is enough. Don't have a fort with magma yet, but could someone check which one is correct?[[User:Thexor|Thexor]] 19:23, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:If i disable temperature can my dwarfs swim through the magma unharmed? Will it still cause water to steam? [[User:Diabl0658|Diabl0658]] 22:28, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Does the type of rock around the mountainous areas hint at magma? If you check out [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_rocks#Naming this article] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igneous_rock#Mineralogical_classification this site] list a bunch of common volcanic rocks: Granite, Rhyolite, Diorite, Andesite, Gabbro, Basalt, Peridotite and Komatite. Perhaps some clues as to where to find magma?&lt;br /&gt;
:It may be possible to find magma vents by searching for extrusive igneous rocks (such as basalt, felsite, rhyolite and andesite), but continental shelves and deep earth are just naturally made of intrusive igneous rock (such as granite, diorite and gabbro). It's generally indicative of rock that has been pushed up to the surface (or erosion has withered the rock down), and not a volcano.&lt;br /&gt;
::So areas with surface igneous rocks such as basalt, felsite, rhyolite and andesite have a high chance of finding a source of magma below the surface? I'd like to know if it's entirely random or if there is some order or pattern to it. [[User:Schm0|Schm0]] 08:38, 5 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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On a completely different topic: I keep setting up on magma vents but not actually having a magma chamber visible. I assumed one problem was the lack of a border on my plot (so somehow the volcano was actually outside my plot), but even after making it bigger there was still no magma (...but it did have a fancy cave)...This has happened the last 4 times I've tried to start on a volcano, and the world regenerating takes quite a while for ~10 named volcanoes, and then all of the livable ones don't actually have magma.--[[User:UltimaGecko|UltimaGecko]] 16:50, 3 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You might try using reveal.exe to see if the volcano is underground. I just built on a site with a volcano which was not visible from the surface, and used reveal to make sure I hadn't lost my mind (then I killed DF and restarted it so I wouldn't still have the map revealed) - The volcano was entirely underground, covered by layer(s) of rock. I've also added a note to the article saying that it is possible to find a volcano which is visible on the starting screen but not from the surface on-site.--[[User:SL|SL]] 21:54, 7 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think this is related to the temperature of the area. I've got a map with a magma vent in the middle of a glacier. There was no surface magma, but there was a nice flat, round patch of obsidian surrounded by ice. After digging down three levels through this &amp;quot;cap&amp;quot;, I hit live magma. It's actually a nice setup, as I've basically set up a small fort *in* the cap--basically my dwarves are living in the mouth of the volcano, with the basement level dedicated to magma smelters, forges, glass furnaces, etc. --[[User:RedKing|RedKing]] 04:26, 9 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Magmapool/pipe section ==&lt;br /&gt;
Zara, you recently added some info about all magma pipes having cliffs over them -- this is incorrect. I've played a very large number of magma pipe maps, and very often they are completely exposed to the air. I've also removed the line about them being &amp;quot;as small as two z-levels!&amp;quot;, because it needs better phrasing. I may fix it later. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 22:39, 26 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Added new section ==&lt;br /&gt;
I added a section regarding &amp;quot;Built objects vs. Magma&amp;quot;. I think it's absolutely vital we establish what does and doesn't melt in magma, in a clean list. There are quite a few things that could be added to that list (Constructed floors for one) so please, do add to it. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 17:31, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Have you tested the bridges? I conjecture that all buildings and constructions without mechanisms are perfectly fine with magma contact. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 10:37, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The bridges part was cut from another section of the article and moved in there. Since it was already here, I assumed it was accurate. I haven't actually checked myself. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 16:54, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I will verify bridges one way or the other. I'm pretty sure they cant melt, though. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 21:03, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::they dont melt, as they arent actually within the magma. that was copied over from the 2d wiki and nobody removed it -[[User:Chariot|Chariot]] 22:29, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I noticed you removed the line about bridges. It seems silly not to mention them at all, so I've written up a line about them working no matter what the material and stuck it in. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 23:12, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::yea they should definately be mentioned, wasnt thinking when i removed it completely(recovering from a bad cold and brain is still a bit foggy) -[[User:Chariot|Chariot]] 00:49, 20 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Tested. Non-magmaiproof bridges -over- magma are fine. Non-magma-proof submerged in magma will melt. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 12:39, 21 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Interesting. I'll edit the article to say as much. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 15:30, 21 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Replenishing Magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since magma replenishes now, I've rewritten that snippet from the article. If I've missed something(a kind of magma not regenerating, though this always worked for me on several maps), feel free to correct things. --[[User:Romantic Warrior|Romantic Warrior]] 15:47, 18 February 2008 (EST).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Temperature ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does magma increase the temperature of things around it? Can it be used to melt ice? --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 20:26, 3 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not sure how the temperature calculations are done, but I CAN tell you that magma will melt nearby ice. Check out http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-153-meltingwateronglacier to see it in action. [[User:Zaranthan|Zaranthan]] 15:23, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It should be a flow, just like the magma itself. One of the other visible results is warm stone. The same can probably be said for water and damp stone as well. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 17:01, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Flow?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have a magma pipe (pit) in my current fortress... I breached the pipe from the lowest level because of the diagonal bug when I discovered it, and it filled some long exploratory shafts. Since then, the top magma layer is down to 5/7 and 6/7 running all over the surface. After a little while, it's easy to see that magma act curiously: instead of bouncing from wall to wall like real water physics, in my game the 5/7 (the flow) seems to all move in the same direction at the same time. The direction change often, and seem to change randomly. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 22:43, 26 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is another way to stop a flow of magma that's moving through a tunnel. You can go one z-level higher, dig to a spot above the magma-filled tunnel, then build a channel above where the magma is flowing and assign it as a Pond Zone. So long as you have buckets and a viable Water Source zone, a dwarf will come along and drop water on the magma, instantly turning it into obsidian and blocking the tunnel. --[[User:Stromko]] January 6th, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
: I've tried this - it rarely works. Usually you just destroy 1/7 of the magma per bucket, along with the water from the bucket, and nothing turns to obsidian. You need to hit it with larger quantities of water at once to get reliable results. --[[User:SL|SL]] 10:35, 6 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, you have to hit it from two levels up. Just one won't do anything.--[[User:Demosthenes|Demosthenes]] 17:07, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Criteria for Magma Buildings==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there a special condition that must be met before Magma Smelters/Forges/Furnaces and so on will appear on the build menus?  I have a magma pit and some channels over it so that I can access it for magma, but I cannot build any magma-using buildings. - [[User:Confused Rat|Confused Rat]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Magma furnaces and forges need a hole somewhere on the ground where they are built. This is to allow the furnace/forge to take the heat from the magma as they are used. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 19:43, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:What he means is that the magma furnaces don't even appear in the build menu. This is because you haven't discovered magma through natural means. The only way this can happen is if you used reveal to find the magma. You'll have to use the [[Utilities#Enable_Magma_Buildings|Enable Magma Buildings]] utility to make them appear. --[[User:Valdemar|Valdemar]] 20:03, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Infinity Generators? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Because magma is currently a finite resource, would it be a good idea to add how to make an infinity generator as workarround untill Toady gives us some more of the stuff?&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—Preceding [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Highlord Asehujiko|Highlord Asehujiko]] ([[User talk:Highlord Asehujiko|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Highlord Asehujiko|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Not on the main article as it would easily be considered cheating. In here, or the [[cheating]] article itself would be fine, the latter probably more appropriate as it could be applied to water as well for those scorching maps. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 19:16, 27 January 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>40d Talk:Magma</title>
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		<updated>2008-02-27T03:38:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MOOMANiBE: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Are you certain that steel is a requirement for metals in contact with magma? This info conflicts with the [[Magma smelter]] article, which state that using [[Fire-safe materials]] is enough. Don't have a fort with magma yet, but could someone check which one is correct?[[User:Thexor|Thexor]] 19:23, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:If i disable temperature can my dwarfs swim through the magma unharmed? Will it still cause water to steam? [[User:Diabl0658|Diabl0658]] 22:28, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Does the type of rock around the mountainous areas hint at magma? If you check out [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_rocks#Naming this article] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igneous_rock#Mineralogical_classification this site] list a bunch of common volcanic rocks: Granite, Rhyolite, Diorite, Andesite, Gabbro, Basalt, Peridotite and Komatite. Perhaps some clues as to where to find magma?&lt;br /&gt;
:It may be possible to find magma vents by searching for extrusive igneous rocks (such as basalt, felsite, rhyolite and andesite), but continental shelves and deep earth are just naturally made of intrusive igneous rock (such as granite, diorite and gabbro). It's generally indicative of rock that has been pushed up to the surface (or erosion has withered the rock down), and not a volcano.&lt;br /&gt;
::So areas with surface igneous rocks such as basalt, felsite, rhyolite and andesite have a high chance of finding a source of magma below the surface? I'd like to know if it's entirely random or if there is some order or pattern to it. [[User:Schm0|Schm0]] 08:38, 5 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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On a completely different topic: I keep setting up on magma vents but not actually having a magma chamber visible. I assumed one problem was the lack of a border on my plot (so somehow the volcano was actually outside my plot), but even after making it bigger there was still no magma (...but it did have a fancy cave)...This has happened the last 4 times I've tried to start on a volcano, and the world regenerating takes quite a while for ~10 named volcanoes, and then all of the livable ones don't actually have magma.--[[User:UltimaGecko|UltimaGecko]] 16:50, 3 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You might try using reveal.exe to see if the volcano is underground. I just built on a site with a volcano which was not visible from the surface, and used reveal to make sure I hadn't lost my mind (then I killed DF and restarted it so I wouldn't still have the map revealed) - The volcano was entirely underground, covered by layer(s) of rock. I've also added a note to the article saying that it is possible to find a volcano which is visible on the starting screen but not from the surface on-site.--[[User:SL|SL]] 21:54, 7 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think this is related to the temperature of the area. I've got a map with a magma vent in the middle of a glacier. There was no surface magma, but there was a nice flat, round patch of obsidian surrounded by ice. After digging down three levels through this &amp;quot;cap&amp;quot;, I hit live magma. It's actually a nice setup, as I've basically set up a small fort *in* the cap--basically my dwarves are living in the mouth of the volcano, with the basement level dedicated to magma smelters, forges, glass furnaces, etc. --[[User:RedKing|RedKing]] 04:26, 9 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Magmapool/pipe section ==&lt;br /&gt;
Zara, you recently added some info about all magma pipes having cliffs over them -- this is incorrect. I've played a very large number of magma pipe maps, and very often they are completely exposed to the air. I've also removed the line about them being &amp;quot;as small as two z-levels!&amp;quot;, because it needs better phrasing. I may fix it later.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Added new section ==&lt;br /&gt;
I added a section regarding &amp;quot;Built objects vs. Magma&amp;quot;. I think it's absolutely vital we establish what does and doesn't melt in magma, in a clean list. There are quite a few things that could be added to that list (Constructed floors for one) so please, do add to it. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 17:31, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Have you tested the bridges? I conjecture that all buildings and constructions without mechanisms are perfectly fine with magma contact. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 10:37, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The bridges part was cut from another section of the article and moved in there. Since it was already here, I assumed it was accurate. I haven't actually checked myself. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 16:54, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I will verify bridges one way or the other. I'm pretty sure they cant melt, though. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 21:03, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::they dont melt, as they arent actually within the magma. that was copied over from the 2d wiki and nobody removed it -[[User:Chariot|Chariot]] 22:29, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I noticed you removed the line about bridges. It seems silly not to mention them at all, so I've written up a line about them working no matter what the material and stuck it in. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 23:12, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::yea they should definately be mentioned, wasnt thinking when i removed it completely(recovering from a bad cold and brain is still a bit foggy) -[[User:Chariot|Chariot]] 00:49, 20 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Tested. Non-magmaiproof bridges -over- magma are fine. Non-magma-proof submerged in magma will melt. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 12:39, 21 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Interesting. I'll edit the article to say as much. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 15:30, 21 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Replenishing Magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since magma replenishes now, I've rewritten that snippet from the article. If I've missed something(a kind of magma not regenerating, though this always worked for me on several maps), feel free to correct things. --[[User:Romantic Warrior|Romantic Warrior]] 15:47, 18 February 2008 (EST).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Temperature ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does magma increase the temperature of things around it? Can it be used to melt ice? --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 20:26, 3 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not sure how the temperature calculations are done, but I CAN tell you that magma will melt nearby ice. Check out http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-153-meltingwateronglacier to see it in action. [[User:Zaranthan|Zaranthan]] 15:23, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It should be a flow, just like the magma itself. One of the other visible results is warm stone. The same can probably be said for water and damp stone as well. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 17:01, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Flow?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have a magma pipe (pit) in my current fortress... I breached the pipe from the lowest level because of the diagonal bug when I discovered it, and it filled some long exploratory shafts. Since then, the top magma layer is down to 5/7 and 6/7 running all over the surface. After a little while, it's easy to see that magma act curiously: instead of bouncing from wall to wall like real water physics, in my game the 5/7 (the flow) seems to all move in the same direction at the same time. The direction change often, and seem to change randomly. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 22:43, 26 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is another way to stop a flow of magma that's moving through a tunnel. You can go one z-level higher, dig to a spot above the magma-filled tunnel, then build a channel above where the magma is flowing and assign it as a Pond Zone. So long as you have buckets and a viable Water Source zone, a dwarf will come along and drop water on the magma, instantly turning it into obsidian and blocking the tunnel. --[[User:Stromko]] January 6th, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
: I've tried this - it rarely works. Usually you just destroy 1/7 of the magma per bucket, along with the water from the bucket, and nothing turns to obsidian. You need to hit it with larger quantities of water at once to get reliable results. --[[User:SL|SL]] 10:35, 6 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, you have to hit it from two levels up. Just one won't do anything.--[[User:Demosthenes|Demosthenes]] 17:07, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Criteria for Magma Buildings==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there a special condition that must be met before Magma Smelters/Forges/Furnaces and so on will appear on the build menus?  I have a magma pit and some channels over it so that I can access it for magma, but I cannot build any magma-using buildings. - [[User:Confused Rat|Confused Rat]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Magma furnaces and forges need a hole somewhere on the ground where they are built. This is to allow the furnace/forge to take the heat from the magma as they are used. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 19:43, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:What he means is that the magma furnaces don't even appear in the build menu. This is because you haven't discovered magma through natural means. The only way this can happen is if you used reveal to find the magma. You'll have to use the [[Utilities#Enable_Magma_Buildings|Enable Magma Buildings]] utility to make them appear. --[[User:Valdemar|Valdemar]] 20:03, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Infinity Generators? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Because magma is currently a finite resource, would it be a good idea to add how to make an infinity generator as workarround untill Toady gives us some more of the stuff?&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—Preceding [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Highlord Asehujiko|Highlord Asehujiko]] ([[User talk:Highlord Asehujiko|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Highlord Asehujiko|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Not on the main article as it would easily be considered cheating. In here, or the [[cheating]] article itself would be fine, the latter probably more appropriate as it could be applied to water as well for those scorching maps. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 19:16, 27 January 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Magma&amp;diff=10436</id>
		<title>40d:Magma</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MOOMANiBE: Removing inaccurate magma pipe info, please check discussion page for comments&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Magma serves as an energy source, powering [[magma forge]]s, [[magma glass furnace]]s and [[magma smelter]]s.  It is extremely dangerous.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Finding magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While in previous versions of Dwarf Fortress, every map was guaranteed to have magma, since v0.27.169.32a magma is now a feature of terrain and may or may not be present.&lt;br /&gt;
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Magma occurs in three different features; Magma pools, Magma Pipes, and [[Volcano|Volcanoes]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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* A Magma Pool is a reservoir of magma that occupies only a few Z-Levels in the mountain, without reaching the surface. Magma Pools can be very small, and may have few suitable locations for buildings that rely on magma. Magma in these pools is limited, and pools will not refill with magma once emptied.&lt;br /&gt;
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* A Magma Pipe is a reservoir of magma that is connected to the earth's mantle. The magma will start at the lowest z-level, and extend in a pipe shape to its very highest level, which may be visible on the surface, or may be several z-levels underground. Magma Pipes gradually refill with magma. {{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* A [[Volcano]] is a magma pipe that completely reaches the surface. This gives a volcano that advantage of being a geographical feature that is visible on the [[location]] screen. See the page on volcanoes for more information.&lt;br /&gt;
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Magma that reaches all the way to the surface (Primarily Magma Pipes and Volcanos) is visible on the &amp;quot;local&amp;quot; screen in the starting location chooser. It is represented as a red ≈ mark (a double tilde) - essentially it looks like red water.  Note that red ≈ marks in the &amp;quot;region&amp;quot; screen mean something different entirely (e.g. red sand). However, it IS actually possible for a volcano that shows up on the &amp;quot;local&amp;quot; and region screen in the starting location chooser to be entirely underground - Although you could see it in the starting location chooser, it would not be visible from the surface once your dwarves have arrived at the fort's site.&lt;br /&gt;
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While picking a starting location, the easiest place to look for magma is on or near a [[volcano]] (a red ^ mark in the &amp;quot;region&amp;quot; screen).  There are often volcanic islands (easy to find, since they are the sole land in the middle of oceans), but since sea travel is not yet implemented, trade with other races may not be possible on such islands.  Instead, find a volcano on land, and (optionally) start looking for a vent in nearby squares.  &amp;quot;Nearby squares&amp;quot; can mean anything from literally on top of the volcano, to adjacent, to quite a long distance away indeed.  The placement of magma seems to be related to the distance from volcanoes, but is still essentially random.&lt;br /&gt;
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Magma vents occur exclusively in world map tiles that are primarily igneous extrusive. That is to say, if you select an entire tile on the embarkation screen and press F1 to highlight the most common terrain, the tile will only have magma if the top stone is dark gray, signifying igneous extrusive rock. Magma does not necessarily form in this geological zone/biome, rather anywhere in the tile. Even if magma is not evident on the surface, it's almost certain to be underground somewhere, though the chances of finding it without reveal.exe are still slim.&lt;br /&gt;
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Much harder than simply finding a magma vent is finding a magma vent that is also near suitable terrain for building.  Depending on your requirements - you may be looking for a source of running water, or a mountain for minerals, or a healthy tree population, or even all three - suitable building sites can be extremely scarce.&lt;br /&gt;
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Since volcanoes show up on the region finder, and magma vents do not, you may find it easier to simply check all volcanoes on a map for suitability, and generate a new world if none are suitable, rather than scouring tile after tile for magma vents.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you're willing to search exhaustively, you might want to consider finding magma vents that are not near volcanoes at all.  Very occasionally, magma will be visible in the middle of forests, plains, or other terrain nowhere near a volcano or even mountains.  There is no way to spot these on the region map, so the only way to identify them is to scroll past hundreds of local maps while keeping an eye out for the distinctive red ≈ symbol.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You can also occasionally find magma that does not extend all the way to the surface, and therefore is not visible on the local map.  These are in fact much more numerous than surface-visible magma vents; however, they are almost impossible to find without cheating via one of the [[utilities]] like &amp;quot;reveal.exe&amp;quot;, since unlike proper magma vents these smaller deposits must be almost literally mined into to see (you will get a warning about &amp;quot;warm stone&amp;quot; before you actually breach the deposit).  These smaller magma deposits appear in the same places as normal magma vents - near volcanoes, or, failing that, near other known magma.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Using magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On a map with a magma vent, the magma will be clearly visible from every level ground and below, unless the map is in a Freezing area. In Freezing areas, the top few levels of the vent will have cooled to form an obsidian &amp;quot;cap&amp;quot;. This should still be readily recognizable however, as it will comprise a circular area. The minerals directly adjacent to the magma vent will also be immediately visible, even at the lowest level of the map, which can give some hints about where to prospect for ores.&lt;br /&gt;
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The vent has a similar, circular shape on each level.  However, it is not identical from one level to the next; some levels will have a larger or somewhat misshapen circle of magma.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The primary use for magma is to power [[magma smelter]]s, [[magma glass furnace]]s and [[magma forge]]s.  (There are other uses, including defense and possibly even garbage disposal.)  To build forges, etc. on magma, at least one of the external eight squares must be above a square of magma.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This can be done most easily by simply building on ground level.  The magma is visible from ground level but is actually contained one level below ground level, just like any ground-level water source.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To build underground, you will need to dig at least one tile of a [[channel]] above the location you wish to build the smelter or forge.  Underneath this channel there must be magma, either directly from the vent or channeled from the vent.  You can simply build a tunnel straight into the magma, or use channels to tap into the magma on the level below safely - this latter is easier if there is more magma on the lower level than the level on which you wish to build.  Tapping into magma directly is quite safe, provided that you are prepared for it.  Magma is much slower than water, and can be stopped by a simple floodgate.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Volcanoes slowly replenish their supply of magma{{version|0.27.176.38a}}. Other sources of magma do not{{verify}}, limiting the use of magma for traps, moats, etc on maps lacking a volcano.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Magma vs. Built Objects ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some objects that come in contact with magma will function fine, no matter what their material. Others will melt or cease to work properly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Workshops that come in contact with the magma (such as forges) need not be built of steel to function.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Constructed walls of any material, even those that are not &amp;quot;Magma-proof&amp;quot;, will hold magma in without issues. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Bridges that are built &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;over&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; magma may be constructed of any material. However, bridges that are &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;submerged&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; in magma must be constructed of a magma-proof material.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Most items that can have mechanisms attached to them must be made of steel or bauxite to function in magma. This includes Floodgates and Screw Pumps{{verify}}.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Stone mechanisms attached to a construction will melt in magma unless made of bauxite, even if the construction itself is made of steel. In addition, if the mechanisms melt off of a floodgate, the floodgate will cease to be &amp;quot;constructed&amp;quot; and become an unplaced item again.{{version|0.27.176.38a}} At this point, the magma will flow over it freely.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Temperature settings ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Magma is almost harmless if temperature is disabled in the Dwarf Fortress init file.  It can still trap and suffocate or simply starve your dwarves in some situations.  It will not melt bridges, etc. constructed of non-[[magma-proof]] materials.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Magma reactions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Water: If magma happens to contact water it produces some steam and obsidian. This means there is no chance of using a prolonged contact between the two to create a steam trap.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rocks: [[stone|Rock]]s left over from mining will melt if magma covers them.&lt;br /&gt;
*Speed: Magma moves relatively slowly. While it is impossible to try to seal off water let loose, magma is slow enough for your dwarves to build a floodgate or door, or even wall off the flooding area, if you happen to let magma loose by mistake.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Physics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Anvil&amp;diff=19379</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Anvil</title>
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		<updated>2008-02-23T04:21:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MOOMANiBE: Cleaning this, too.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Cleaning the page == &lt;br /&gt;
I've made some cleanup alterations, both to the article and this discussion page. Hope you all don't mind. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 23:21, 22 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bars needed to make ==&lt;br /&gt;
I've noticed this page doesn't list how many bars are required to make an anvil. Anyone who knows offhand? Seems like it'd be useful info. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 17:37, 22 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:3. --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 18:43, 22 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Getting an anvil from the caravan ==&lt;br /&gt;
So is it possible to easily procure an anvil within the first 1-2 years? because if it is, then I'm going to ditch it on the embark screen and spend those 1000pts on turtles.&lt;br /&gt;
:Thats a lot of turtles. Get dogs instead. Imagine a swarm of pooches descending on a goblin fortress, taking no prisoners, and leaving no goblin child behind! --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 15:33, 4 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:In my experience the first dwarven caravan brings one.  However they will charge you dearly for it (~1000$), moreso if the anvil is steel (~3000$). Prices are from memory. [[User:Anonymousphrase|Anonymousphrase]] 15:51, 4 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The caravan has a high chance of bringing one, it is not certain. --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 09:27, 8 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Dearly yes, but a well made stack of food will cover the cost of a steel one so it's not hard to buy out the caravan. I had one caravan turn up with two steel anvils and a stack of plump helmet (5). Seems that was all they could carry :( --10:21, 8 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::True, but that does take some planning. I never got enough cash (what is the correct dwarven word, the value word...) to buy the anvil in the first year, but I'm stupid and focus on creating goblets, and making enough beds etc for my dwarfs. --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 13:57, 8 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I'd definitely been left high and dry by the first dwarven caravan before.  Took me three long years before I was finally able to get my hands on an anvil!&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—Preceding [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:DaveLawson|DaveLawson]] ([[User talk:DaveLawson|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/DaveLawson|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Odd anvil materials ==&lt;br /&gt;
I have created a zinc anvil (value 200). Is this a bug?&lt;br /&gt;
::Anvil (100) made of zinc (x2) with no quality modifier (x1). 100 x2 x1 =&amp;gt; 200. Looks right to me. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 12:29, 14 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oh! Wait a minute. You aren't supposed to be able to make anvils out of zinc. What version are you using? I remember there was a bug where dwarves would use a different metal than the one assigned in the task, letting even pig iron be used to make stuff. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 12:31, 14 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Heh, I'd like to have an archive of that version; I want a bismuth anvil. XD --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 11:55, 15 February 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Anvil&amp;diff=2087</id>
		<title>40d:Anvil</title>
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		<updated>2008-02-23T04:18:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MOOMANiBE: Reorganizing the page a bit. It's rather messy. Have some sections, page!&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Anvils are required to build a [[metalsmith's forge]]. They are a vital item if your fortress intends to do any metalworking whatsoever.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Anvil Properties == &lt;br /&gt;
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Anvils may be made of [[iron]], [[steel]] or [[adamantine]].  The material used does not seem to affect the performance of the forge. Neither does the anvil's quality, although anvils have a high base cost, so quality greatly increases their value. Smithing an anvil requires three bars of metal.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Acquiring an Anvil ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You may bring an anvil with you on embark, at the cost of 1000 points. However, some players choose to forego this and instead spend the points for other purposes. An anvil will usually be available for purchase from the dwarven caravan in the first autumn, but it is not known whether the presence of an anvil is guaranteed. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Items]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Magma&amp;diff=10432</id>
		<title>40d:Magma</title>
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		<updated>2008-02-23T01:02:42Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;Magma serves as an energy source, powering [[magma forge]]s, [[magma glass furnace]]s and [[magma smelter]]s.  It is extremely dangerous.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Finding magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While in previous versions of Dwarf Fortress, every map was guaranteed to have magma, since v0.27.169.32a magma is now a feature of terrain and may or may not be present.&lt;br /&gt;
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Magma occurs in three different features; Magma pools, Magma Pipes, and [[Volcano|Volcanoes]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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* A Magma Pool is a reservoir of magma that occupies only a few Z-Levels in the mountain, without reaching the surface. Magma Pools can be very small (around 3 Z-levels high) and may have few suitable locations for buildings that rely on magma. Magma in these pools is limited, and pools will not refill with magma once emptied.&lt;br /&gt;
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* A Magma Pipe is a reservoir of magma that is connected to the earth's mantle. The magma will start at the lowest z-level, and extend in a pipe shape to its very highest level, which may be visible on the surface, or may be several z-levels underground. Magma Pipes gradually refill with magma. {{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* A [[Volcano]] is a geographical feature that essentially acts as a magma pipe, but has other benefits and disadvantages. See the page on volcanoes for more information.&lt;br /&gt;
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Magma that reaches all the way to the surface (Primarily Magma Pipes and Volcanos) is visible on the &amp;quot;local&amp;quot; screen in the starting location chooser. It is represented as a red ≈ mark (a double tilde) - essentially it looks like red water.  Note that red ≈ marks in the &amp;quot;region&amp;quot; screen mean something different entirely (e.g. red sand). However, it IS actually possible for a volcano that shows up on the &amp;quot;local&amp;quot; and region screen in the starting location chooser to be entirely underground - Although you could see it in the starting location chooser, it would not be visible from the surface once your dwarves have arrived at the fort's site.&lt;br /&gt;
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While picking a starting location, the easiest place to look for magma is on or near a [[volcano]] (a red ^ mark in the &amp;quot;region&amp;quot; screen).  There are often volcanic islands (easy to find, since they are the sole land in the middle of oceans), but since sea travel is not yet implemented, trade with other races may not be possible on such islands.  Instead, find a volcano on land, and (optionally) start looking for a vent in nearby squares.  &amp;quot;Nearby squares&amp;quot; can mean anything from literally on top of the volcano, to adjacent, to quite a long distance away indeed.  The placement of magma seems to be related to the distance from volcanoes, but is still essentially random.&lt;br /&gt;
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Magma vents occur exclusively in world map tiles that are primarily igneous extrusive. That is to say, if you select an entire tile on the embarkation screen and press F1 to highlight the most common terrain, the tile will only have magma if the top stone is dark gray, signifying igneous extrusive rock. Magma does not necessarily form in this geological zone/biome, rather anywhere in the tile. Even if magma is not evident on the surface, it's almost certain to be underground somewhere, though the chances of finding it without reveal.exe are still slim.&lt;br /&gt;
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Much harder than simply finding a magma vent is finding a magma vent that is also near suitable terrain for building.  Depending on your requirements - you may be looking for a source of running water, or a mountain for minerals, or a healthy tree population, or even all three - suitable building sites can be extremely scarce.&lt;br /&gt;
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Since volcanoes show up on the region finder, and magma vents do not, you may find it easier to simply check all volcanoes on a map for suitability, and generate a new world if none are suitable, rather than scouring tile after tile for magma vents.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you're willing to search exhaustively, you might want to consider finding magma vents that are not near volcanoes at all.  Very occasionally, magma will be visible in the middle of forests, plains, or other terrain nowhere near a volcano or even mountains.  There is no way to spot these on the region map, so the only way to identify them is to scroll past hundreds of local maps while keeping an eye out for the distinctive red ≈ symbol.&lt;br /&gt;
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You can also occasionally find magma that does not extend all the way to the surface, and therefore is not visible on the local map.  These are in fact much more numerous than surface-visible magma vents; however, they are almost impossible to find without cheating via one of the [[utilities]] like &amp;quot;reveal.exe&amp;quot;, since unlike proper magma vents these smaller deposits must be almost literally mined into to see (you will get a warning about &amp;quot;warm stone&amp;quot; before you actually breach the deposit).  These smaller magma deposits appear in the same places as normal magma vents - near volcanoes, or, failing that, near other known magma.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Using magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On a map with a magma vent, the magma will be clearly visible from every level ground and below, unless the map is in a Freezing area. In Freezing areas, the top few levels of the vent will have cooled to form an obsidian &amp;quot;cap&amp;quot;. This should still be readily recognizable however, as it will comprise a circular area. The minerals directly adjacent to the magma vent will also be immediately visible, even at the lowest level of the map, which can give some hints about where to prospect for ores.&lt;br /&gt;
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The vent has a similar, circular shape on each level.  However, it is not identical from one level to the next; some levels will have a larger or somewhat misshapen circle of magma.&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary use for magma is to power [[magma smelter]]s, [[magma glass furnace]]s and [[magma forge]]s.  (There are other uses, including defense and possibly even garbage disposal.)  To build forges, etc. on magma, at least one of the external eight squares must be above a square of magma.&lt;br /&gt;
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This can be done most easily by simply building on ground level.  The magma is visible from ground level but is actually contained one level below ground level, just like any ground-level water source.&lt;br /&gt;
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To build underground, you will need to dig at least one tile of a [[channel]] above the location you wish to build the smelter or forge.  Underneath this channel there must be magma, either directly from the vent or channeled from the vent.  You can simply build a tunnel straight into the magma, or use channels to tap into the magma on the level below safely - this latter is easier if there is more magma on the lower level than the level on which you wish to build.  Tapping into magma directly is quite safe, provided that you are prepared for it.  Magma is much slower than water, and can be stopped by a simple floodgate.&lt;br /&gt;
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Volcanoes slowly replenish their supply of magma{{version|0.27.176.38a}}. Other sources of magma do not{{verify}}, limiting the use of magma for traps, moats, etc on maps lacking a volcano.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Magma vs. Built Objects ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some objects that come in contact with magma will function fine, no matter what their material. Others will melt or cease to work properly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Workshops that come in contact with the magma (such as forges) need not be built of steel to function.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Constructed walls of any material, even those that are not &amp;quot;Magma-proof&amp;quot;, will hold magma in without issues. &lt;br /&gt;
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* Bridges that are built &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;over&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; magma may be constructed of any material. However, bridges that are &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;submerged&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; in magma must be constructed of a magma-proof material.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Most items that can have mechanisms attached to them must be made of steel or bauxite to function in magma. This includes Floodgates and Screw Pumps{{verify}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Stone mechanisms attached to a construction will melt in magma unless made of bauxite, even if the construction itself is made of steel. In addition, if the mechanisms melt off of a floodgate, the floodgate will cease to be &amp;quot;constructed&amp;quot; and become an unplaced item again.{{version|0.27.176.38a}} At this point, the magma will flow over it freely.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Temperature settings ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Magma is almost harmless if temperature is disabled in the Dwarf Fortress init file.  It can still trap and suffocate or simply starve your dwarves in some situations.  It will not melt bridges, etc. constructed of non-[[magma-proof]] materials.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Magma reactions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Water: If magma happens to contact water it produces some steam and obsidian. This means there is no chance of using a prolonged contact between the two to create a steam trap.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rocks: [[stone|Rock]]s left over from mining will melt if magma covers them.&lt;br /&gt;
*Speed: Magma moves relatively slowly. While it is impossible to try to seal off water let loose, magma is slow enough for your dwarves to build a floodgate or door, or even wall off the flooding area, if you happen to let magma loose by mistake.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Physics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Anvil&amp;diff=19377</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Anvil</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Anvil&amp;diff=19377"/>
		<updated>2008-02-22T22:37:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MOOMANiBE: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I've noticed this page doesn't list how many bars are required to make an anvil. Anyone who knows offhand? Seems like it'd be useful info. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 17:37, 22 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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So is it possible to easily procure an anvil within the first 1-2 years? because if it is, then I'm going to ditch it on the embark screen and spend those 1000pts on turtles.&lt;br /&gt;
:Thats a lot of turtles. Get dogs instead. Imagine a swarm of pooches descending on a goblin fortress, taking no prisoners, and leaving no goblin child behind! --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 15:33, 4 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:In my experience the first dwarven caravan brings one.  However they will charge you dearly for it (~1000$), moreso if the anvil is steel (~3000$). Prices are from memory. [[User:Anonymousphrase|Anonymousphrase]] 15:51, 4 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The caravan has a high chance of bringing one, it is not certain. --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 09:27, 8 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Dearly yes, but a well made stack of food will cover the cost of a steel one so it's not hard to buy out the caravan. I had one caravan turn up with two steel anvils and a stack of plump helmet (5). Seems that was all they could carry :( --10:21, 8 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::True, but that does take some planning. I never got enough cash (what is the correct dwarven word, the value word...) to buy the anvil in the first year, but I'm stupid and focus on creating goblets, and making enough beds etc for my dwarfs. --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 13:57, 8 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have created a zinc anvil (value 200). Is this a bug?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'd definitely been left high and dry by the first dwarven caravan before.  Took me three long years before I was finally able to get my hands on an anvil!&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—Preceding [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:DaveLawson|DaveLawson]] ([[User talk:DaveLawson|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/DaveLawson|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::Anvil (100) made of zinc (x2) with no quality modifier (x1). 100 x2 x1 =&amp;gt; 200. Looks right to me. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 12:29, 14 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oh! Wait a minute. You aren't supposed to be able to make anvils out of zinc. What version are you using? I remember there was a bug where dwarves would use a different metal than the one assigned in the task, letting even pig iron be used to make stuff. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 12:31, 14 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Heh, I'd like to have an archive of that version; I want a bismuth anvil. XD --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 11:55, 15 February 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Magma&amp;diff=10429</id>
		<title>40d:Magma</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Magma&amp;diff=10429"/>
		<updated>2008-02-21T20:44:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MOOMANiBE: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Magma serves as an energy source, powering [[magma forge]]s, [[magma glass furnace]]s and [[magma smelter]]s.  It is extremely dangerous.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Finding magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While in previous versions of Dwarf Fortress, every map was guaranteed to have magma, since v0.27.169.32a magma is now a feature of terrain and may or may not be present.&lt;br /&gt;
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Magma that reaches all the way to the surface is visible on the &amp;quot;local&amp;quot; screen in the starting location chooser.  It is represented as a red ≈ mark (a double tilde) - essentially it looks like red water.  Note that red ≈ marks in the &amp;quot;region&amp;quot; screen mean something different entirely (e.g. red sand). However, it IS actually possible for a volcano that shows up on the &amp;quot;local&amp;quot; and region screen in the starting location chooser to be entirely underground - Although you could see it in the starting location chooser, it would not be visible from the surface once your dwarves have arrived at the fort's site.&lt;br /&gt;
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While picking a starting location, the easiest place to look for magma is on or near a [[volcano]] (a red ^ mark in the &amp;quot;region&amp;quot; screen).  There are often volcanic islands (easy to find, since they are the sole land in the middle of oceans), but since sea travel is not yet implemented, trade with other races may not be possible on such islands.  Instead, find a volcano on land, and (optionally) start looking for a vent in nearby squares.  &amp;quot;Nearby squares&amp;quot; can mean anything from literally on top of the volcano, to adjacent, to quite a long distance away indeed.  The placement of magma seems to be related to the distance from volcanoes, but is still essentially random.&lt;br /&gt;
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Magma vents occur exclusively in world map tiles that are primarily igneous extrusive. That is to say, if you select an entire tile on the embarkation screen and press F1 to highlight the most common terrain, the tile will only have magma if the top stone is dark gray, signifying igneous extrusive rock. Magma does not necessarily form in this geological zone/biome, rather anywhere in the tile. Even if magma is not evident on the surface, it's almost certain to be underground somewhere, though the chances of finding it without reveal.exe are still slim.&lt;br /&gt;
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Much harder than simply finding a magma vent is finding a magma vent that is also near suitable terrain for building.  Depending on your requirements - you may be looking for a source of running water, or a mountain for minerals, or a healthy tree population, or even all three - suitable building sites can be extremely scarce.&lt;br /&gt;
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Since volcanoes show up on the region finder, and magma vents do not, you may find it easier to simply check all volcanoes on a map for suitability, and generate a new world if none are suitable, rather than scouring tile after tile for magma vents.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you're willing to search exhaustively, you might want to consider finding magma vents that are not near volcanoes at all.  Very occasionally, magma will be visible in the middle of forests, plains, or other terrain nowhere near a volcano or even mountains.  There is no way to spot these on the region map, so the only way to identify them is to scroll past hundreds of local maps while keeping an eye out for the distinctive red ≈ symbol.&lt;br /&gt;
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You can also occasionally find magma that does not extend all the way to the surface, and therefore is not visible on the local map.  These are in fact much more numerous than surface-visible magma vents; however, they are almost impossible to find without cheating via one of the [[utilities]] like &amp;quot;reveal.exe&amp;quot;, since unlike proper magma vents these smaller deposits must be almost literally mined into to see (you will get a warning about &amp;quot;warm stone&amp;quot; before you actually breach the deposit).  These smaller magma deposits appear in the same places as normal magma vents - near volcanoes, or, failing that, near other known magma.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Using magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On a map with a magma vent, the magma will be clearly visible from every level ground and below, unless the map is in a Freezing area. In Freezing areas, the top few levels of the vent will have cooled to form an obsidian &amp;quot;cap&amp;quot;. This should still be readily recognizable however, as it will comprise a circular area. The minerals directly adjacent to the magma vent will also be immediately visible, even at the lowest level of the map, which can give some hints about where to prospect for ores.&lt;br /&gt;
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The vent has a similar, circular shape on each level.  However, it is not identical from one level to the next; some levels will have a larger or somewhat misshapen circle of magma.&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary use for magma is to power [[magma smelter]]s, [[magma glass furnace]]s and [[magma forge]]s.  (There are other uses, including defense and possibly even garbage disposal.)  To build forges, etc. on magma, at least one of the external eight squares must be above a square of magma.&lt;br /&gt;
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This can be done most easily by simply building on ground level.  The magma is visible from ground level but is actually contained one level below ground level, just like any ground-level water source.&lt;br /&gt;
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To build underground, you will need to dig at least one tile of a [[channel]] above the location you wish to build the smelter or forge.  Underneath this channel there must be magma, either directly from the vent or channeled from the vent.  You can simply build a tunnel straight into the magma, or use channels to tap into the magma on the level below safely - this latter is easier if there is more magma on the lower level than the level on which you wish to build.  Tapping into magma directly is quite safe, provided that you are prepared for it.  Magma is much slower than water, and can be stopped by a simple floodgate.&lt;br /&gt;
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Volcanoes slowly replenish their supply of magma{{version|0.27.176.38a}}. Other sources of magma do not{{verify}}, limiting the use of magma for traps, moats, etc on maps lacking a volcano.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Magma vs. Built Objects ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Some objects that come in contact with magma will function fine, no matter what their material. Others will melt or cease to work properly.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Workshops that come in contact with the magma (such as forges) need not be built of steel to function.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Constructed walls of any material, even those that are not &amp;quot;Magma-proof&amp;quot;, will hold magma in without issues. &lt;br /&gt;
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* Bridges that are built &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;over&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; magma may be constructed of any material. However, bridges that are &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;submerged&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; in magma must be constructed of a magma-proof material.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Most items that can have mechanisms attached to them must be made of steel or bauxite to function in magma. This includes Floodgates and Screw Pumps{{verify}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Stone mechanisms attached to a construction will melt in magma unless made of bauxite, even if the construction itself is made of steel. In addition, if the mechanisms melt off of a floodgate, the floodgate will cease to be &amp;quot;constructed&amp;quot; and become an unplaced item again.{{version|0.27.176.38a}} At this point, the magma will flow over it freely.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Temperature settings ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Magma is almost harmless if temperature is disabled in the Dwarf Fortress init file.  It can still trap and suffocate or simply starve your dwarves in some situations.  It will not melt bridges, etc. constructed of non-[[magma-proof]] materials.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Magma reactions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Water: If magma happens to contact water it produces some steam and obsidian. This means there is no chance of using a prolonged contact between the two to create a steam trap.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rocks: [[stone|Rock]]s left over from mining will melt if magma covers them.&lt;br /&gt;
*Speed: Magma moves relatively slowly. While it is impossible to try to seal off water let loose, magma is slow enough for your dwarves to build a floodgate or door, or even wall off the flooding area, if you happen to let magma loose by mistake.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>40d Talk:Magma</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Are you certain that steel is a requirement for metals in contact with magma? This info conflicts with the [[Magma smelter]] article, which state that using [[Fire-safe materials]] is enough. Don't have a fort with magma yet, but could someone check which one is correct?[[User:Thexor|Thexor]] 19:23, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:If i disable temperature can my dwarfs swim through the magma unharmed? Will it still cause water to steam? [[User:Diabl0658|Diabl0658]] 22:28, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Does the type of rock around the mountainous areas hint at magma? If you check out [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_rocks#Naming this article] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igneous_rock#Mineralogical_classification this site] list a bunch of common volcanic rocks: Granite, Rhyolite, Diorite, Andesite, Gabbro, Basalt, Peridotite and Komatite. Perhaps some clues as to where to find magma?&lt;br /&gt;
:It may be possible to find magma vents by searching for extrusive igneous rocks (such as basalt, felsite, rhyolite and andesite), but continental shelves and deep earth are just naturally made of intrusive igneous rock (such as granite, diorite and gabbro). It's generally indicative of rock that has been pushed up to the surface (or erosion has withered the rock down), and not a volcano.&lt;br /&gt;
::So areas with surface igneous rocks such as basalt, felsite, rhyolite and andesite have a high chance of finding a source of magma below the surface? I'd like to know if it's entirely random or if there is some order or pattern to it. [[User:Schm0|Schm0]] 08:38, 5 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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On a completely different topic: I keep setting up on magma vents but not actually having a magma chamber visible. I assumed one problem was the lack of a border on my plot (so somehow the volcano was actually outside my plot), but even after making it bigger there was still no magma (...but it did have a fancy cave)...This has happened the last 4 times I've tried to start on a volcano, and the world regenerating takes quite a while for ~10 named volcanoes, and then all of the livable ones don't actually have magma.--[[User:UltimaGecko|UltimaGecko]] 16:50, 3 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You might try using reveal.exe to see if the volcano is underground. I just built on a site with a volcano which was not visible from the surface, and used reveal to make sure I hadn't lost my mind (then I killed DF and restarted it so I wouldn't still have the map revealed) - The volcano was entirely underground, covered by layer(s) of rock. I've also added a note to the article saying that it is possible to find a volcano which is visible on the starting screen but not from the surface on-site.--[[User:SL|SL]] 21:54, 7 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think this is related to the temperature of the area. I've got a map with a magma vent in the middle of a glacier. There was no surface magma, but there was a nice flat, round patch of obsidian surrounded by ice. After digging down three levels through this &amp;quot;cap&amp;quot;, I hit live magma. It's actually a nice setup, as I've basically set up a small fort *in* the cap--basically my dwarves are living in the mouth of the volcano, with the basement level dedicated to magma smelters, forges, glass furnaces, etc. --[[User:RedKing|RedKing]] 04:26, 9 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Added new section ==&lt;br /&gt;
I added a section regarding &amp;quot;Built objects vs. Magma&amp;quot;. I think it's absolutely vital we establish what does and doesn't melt in magma, in a clean list. There are quite a few things that could be added to that list (Constructed floors for one) so please, do add to it. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 17:31, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Have you tested the bridges? I conjecture that all buildings and constructions without mechanisms are perfectly fine with magma contact. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 10:37, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The bridges part was cut from another section of the article and moved in there. Since it was already here, I assumed it was accurate. I haven't actually checked myself. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 16:54, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I will verify bridges one way or the other. I'm pretty sure they cant melt, though. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 21:03, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::they dont melt, as they arent actually within the magma. that was copied over from the 2d wiki and nobody removed it -[[User:Chariot|Chariot]] 22:29, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I noticed you removed the line about bridges. It seems silly not to mention them at all, so I've written up a line about them working no matter what the material and stuck it in. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 23:12, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::yea they should definately be mentioned, wasnt thinking when i removed it completely(recovering from a bad cold and brain is still a bit foggy) -[[User:Chariot|Chariot]] 00:49, 20 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Tested. Non-magmaiproof bridges -over- magma are fine. Non-magma-proof submerged in magma will melt. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 12:39, 21 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Interesting. I'll edit the article to say as much. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 15:30, 21 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Replenishing Magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since magma replenishes now, I've rewritten that snippet from the article. If I've missed something(a kind of magma not regenerating, though this always worked for me on several maps), feel free to correct things. --[[User:Romantic Warrior|Romantic Warrior]] 15:47, 18 February 2008 (EST).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Temperature ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does magma increase the temperature of things around it? Can it be used to melt ice? --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 20:26, 3 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not sure how the temperature calculations are done, but I CAN tell you that magma will melt nearby ice. Check out http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-153-meltingwateronglacier to see it in action. [[User:Zaranthan|Zaranthan]] 15:23, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It should be a flow, just like the magma itself. One of the other visible results is warm stone. The same can probably be said for water and damp stone as well. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 17:01, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have a magma pipe (pit) in my current fortress... I breached the pipe from the lowest level because of the diagonal bug when I discovered it, and it filled some long exploratory shafts. Since then, the top magma layer is down to 5/7 and 6/7 running all over the surface. After a little while, it's easy to see that magma act curiously: instead of bouncing from wall to wall like real water physics, in my game the 5/7 (the flow) seems to all move in the same direction at the same time. The direction change often, and seem to change randomly. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 22:43, 26 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is another way to stop a flow of magma that's moving through a tunnel. You can go one z-level higher, dig to a spot above the magma-filled tunnel, then build a channel above where the magma is flowing and assign it as a Pond Zone. So long as you have buckets and a viable Water Source zone, a dwarf will come along and drop water on the magma, instantly turning it into obsidian and blocking the tunnel. --[[User:Stromko]] January 6th, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
: I've tried this - it rarely works. Usually you just destroy 1/7 of the magma per bucket, along with the water from the bucket, and nothing turns to obsidian. You need to hit it with larger quantities of water at once to get reliable results. --[[User:SL|SL]] 10:35, 6 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, you have to hit it from two levels up. Just one won't do anything.--[[User:Demosthenes|Demosthenes]] 17:07, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Criteria for Magma Buildings==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there a special condition that must be met before Magma Smelters/Forges/Furnaces and so on will appear on the build menus?  I have a magma pit and some channels over it so that I can access it for magma, but I cannot build any magma-using buildings. - [[User:Confused Rat|Confused Rat]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Magma furnaces and forges need a hole somewhere on the ground where they are built. This is to allow the furnace/forge to take the heat from the magma as they are used. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 19:43, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:What he means is that the magma furnaces don't even appear in the build menu. This is because you haven't discovered magma through natural means. The only way this can happen is if you used reveal to find the magma. You'll have to use the [[Utilities#Enable_Magma_Buildings|Enable Magma Buildings]] utility to make them appear. --[[User:Valdemar|Valdemar]] 20:03, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Infinity Generators? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Because magma is currently a finite resource, would it be a good idea to add how to make an infinity generator as workarround untill Toady gives us some more of the stuff?&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—Preceding [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Highlord Asehujiko|Highlord Asehujiko]] ([[User talk:Highlord Asehujiko|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Highlord Asehujiko|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Not on the main article as it would easily be considered cheating. In here, or the [[cheating]] article itself would be fine, the latter probably more appropriate as it could be applied to water as well for those scorching maps. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 19:16, 27 January 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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Are you certain that steel is a requirement for metals in contact with magma? This info conflicts with the [[Magma smelter]] article, which state that using [[Fire-safe materials]] is enough. Don't have a fort with magma yet, but could someone check which one is correct?[[User:Thexor|Thexor]] 19:23, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:If i disable temperature can my dwarfs swim through the magma unharmed? Will it still cause water to steam? [[User:Diabl0658|Diabl0658]] 22:28, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Does the type of rock around the mountainous areas hint at magma? If you check out [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_rocks#Naming this article] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igneous_rock#Mineralogical_classification this site] list a bunch of common volcanic rocks: Granite, Rhyolite, Diorite, Andesite, Gabbro, Basalt, Peridotite and Komatite. Perhaps some clues as to where to find magma?&lt;br /&gt;
:It may be possible to find magma vents by searching for extrusive igneous rocks (such as basalt, felsite, rhyolite and andesite), but continental shelves and deep earth are just naturally made of intrusive igneous rock (such as granite, diorite and gabbro). It's generally indicative of rock that has been pushed up to the surface (or erosion has withered the rock down), and not a volcano.&lt;br /&gt;
::So areas with surface igneous rocks such as basalt, felsite, rhyolite and andesite have a high chance of finding a source of magma below the surface? I'd li♠♠ke to know if it's entirely random or if there is some order or pattern to it. [[User:Schm0|Schm0]] 08:38, 5 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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On a completely different topic: I keep setting up on magma vents but not actually having a magma chamber visible. I assumed one problem was the lack of a border on my plot (so somehow the volcano was actually outside my plot), but even after making it bigger there was still no magma (...but it did have a fancy cave)...This has happened the last 4 times I've tried to start on a volcano, and the world regenerating takes quite a while for ~10 named volcanoes, and then all of the livable ones don't actually have magma.--[[User:UltimaGecko|UltimaGecko]] 16:50, 3 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You might try using reveal.exe to see if the volcano is underground. I just built on a site with a volcano which was not visible from the surface, and used reveal to make sure I hadn't lost my mind (then I killed DF and restarted it so I wouldn't still have the map revealed) - The volcano was entirely underground, covered by layer(s) of rock. I've also added a note to the article saying that it is possible to find a volcano which is visible on the starting screen but not from the surface on-site.--[[User:SL|SL]] 21:54, 7 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think this is related to the temperature of the area. I've got a map with a magma vent in the middle of a glacier. There was no surface magma, but there was a nice flat, round patch of obsidian surrounded by ice. After digging down three levels through this &amp;quot;cap&amp;quot;, I hit live magma. It's actually a nice setup, as I've basically set up a small fort *in* the cap--basically my dwarves are living in the mouth of the volcano, with the basement level dedicated to magma smelters, forges, glass furnaces, etc. --[[User:RedKing|RedKing]] 04:26, 9 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Added new section ==&lt;br /&gt;
I added a section regarding &amp;quot;Built objects vs. Magma&amp;quot;. I think it's absolutely vital we establish what does and doesn't melt in magma, in a clean list. There are quite a few things that could be added to that list (Constructed floors for one) so please, do add to it. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 17:31, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Have you tested the bridges? I conjecture that all buildings and constructions without mechanisms are perfectly fine with magma contact. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 10:37, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The bridges part was cut from another section of the article and moved in there. Since it was already here, I assumed it was accurate. I haven't actually checked myself. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 16:54, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I will verify bridges one way or the other. I'm pretty sure they cant melt, though. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 21:03, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::they dont melt, as they arent actually within the magma. that was copied over from the 2d wiki and nobody removed it -[[User:Chariot|Chariot]] 22:29, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I noticed you removed the line about bridges. It seems silly not to mention them at all, so I've written up a line about them working no matter what the material and stuck it in. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 23:12, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Replenishing Magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since magma replenishes now, I've rewritten that snippet from the article. If I've missed something(a kind of magma not regenerating, though this always worked for me on several maps), feel free to correct things. --[[User:Romantic Warrior|Romantic Warrior]] 15:47, 18 February 2008 (EST).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Temperature ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does magma increase the temperature of things around it? Can it be used to melt ice? --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 20:26, 3 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not sure how the temperature calculations are done, but I CAN tell you that magma will melt nearby ice. Check out http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-153-meltingwateronglacier to see it in action. [[User:Zaranthan|Zaranthan]] 15:23, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It should be a flow, just like the magma itself. One of the other visible results is warm stone. The same can probably be said for water and damp stone as well. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 17:01, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Flow?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have a magma pipe (pit) in my current fortress... I breached the pipe from the lowest level because of the diagonal bug when I discovered it, and it filled some long exploratory shafts. Since then, the top magma layer is down to 5/7 and 6/7 running all over the surface. After a little while, it's easy to see that magma act curiously: instead of bouncing from wall to wall like real water physics, in my game the 5/7 (the flow) seems to all move in the same direction at the same time. The direction change often, and seem to change randomly. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 22:43, 26 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is another way to stop a flow of magma that's moving through a tunnel. You can go one z-level higher, dig to a spot above the magma-filled tunnel, then build a channel above where the magma is flowing and assign it as a Pond Zone. So long as you have buckets and a viable Water Source zone, a dwarf will come along and drop water on the magma, instantly turning it into obsidian and blocking the tunnel. --[[User:Stromko]] January 6th, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
: I've tried this - it rarely works. Usually you just destroy 1/7 of the magma per bucket, along with the water from the bucket, and nothing turns to obsidian. You need to hit it with larger quantities of water at once to get reliable results. --[[User:SL|SL]] 10:35, 6 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, you have to hit it from two levels up. Just one won't do anything.--[[User:Demosthenes|Demosthenes]] 17:07, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Criteria for Magma Buildings==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there a special condition that must be met before Magma Smelters/Forges/Furnaces and so on will appear on the build menus?  I have a magma pit and some channels over it so that I can access it for magma, but I cannot build any magma-using buildings. - [[User:Confused Rat|Confused Rat]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Magma furnaces and forges need a hole somewhere on the ground where they are built. This is to allow the furnace/forge to take the heat from the magma as they are used. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 19:43, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:What he means is that the magma furnaces don't even appear in the build menu. This is because you haven't discovered magma through natural means. The only way this can happen is if you used reveal to find the magma. You'll have to use the [[Utilities#Enable_Magma_Buildings|Enable Magma Buildings]] utility to make them appear. --[[User:Valdemar|Valdemar]] 20:03, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Infinity Generators? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Because magma is currently a finite resource, would it be a good idea to add how to make an infinity generator as workarround untill Toady gives us some more of the stuff?&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—Preceding [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Highlord Asehujiko|Highlord Asehujiko]] ([[User talk:Highlord Asehujiko|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Highlord Asehujiko|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Not on the main article as it would easily be considered cheating. In here, or the [[cheating]] article itself would be fine, the latter probably more appropriate as it could be applied to water as well for those scorching maps. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 19:16, 27 January 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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Are you certain that steel is a requirement for metals in contact with magma? This info conflicts with the [[Magma smelter]] article, which state that using [[Fire-safe materials]] is enough. Don't have a fort with magma yet, but could someone check which one is correct?[[User:Thexor|Thexor]] 19:23, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:If i disable temperature can my dwarfs swim through the magma unharmed? Will it still cause water to steam? [[User:Diabl0658|Diabl0658]] 22:28, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Does the type of rock around the mountainous areas hint at magma? If you check out [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_rocks#Naming this article] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igneous_rock#Mineralogical_classification this site] list a bunch of common volcanic rocks: Granite, Rhyolite, Diorite, Andesite, Gabbro, Basalt, Peridotite and Komatite. Perhaps some clues as to where to find magma?&lt;br /&gt;
:It may be possible to find magma vents by searching for extrusive igneous rocks (such as basalt, felsite, rhyolite and andesite), but continental shelves and deep earth are just naturally made of intrusive igneous rock (such as granite, diorite and gabbro). It's generally indicative of rock that has been pushed up to the surface (or erosion has withered the rock down), and not a volcano.&lt;br /&gt;
::So areas with surface igneous rocks such as basalt, felsite, rhyolite and andesite have a high chance of finding a source of magma below the surface? I'd li♠♠ke to know if it's entirely random or if there is some order or pattern to it. [[User:Schm0|Schm0]] 08:38, 5 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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On a completely different topic: I keep setting up on magma vents but not actually having a magma chamber visible. I assumed one problem was the lack of a border on my plot (so somehow the volcano was actually outside my plot), but even after making it bigger there was still no magma (...but it did have a fancy cave)...This has happened the last 4 times I've tried to start on a volcano, and the world regenerating takes quite a while for ~10 named volcanoes, and then all of the livable ones don't actually have magma.--[[User:UltimaGecko|UltimaGecko]] 16:50, 3 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You might try using reveal.exe to see if the volcano is underground. I just built on a site with a volcano which was not visible from the surface, and used reveal to make sure I hadn't lost my mind (then I killed DF and restarted it so I wouldn't still have the map revealed) - The volcano was entirely underground, covered by layer(s) of rock. I've also added a note to the article saying that it is possible to find a volcano which is visible on the starting screen but not from the surface on-site.--[[User:SL|SL]] 21:54, 7 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think this is related to the temperature of the area. I've got a map with a magma vent in the middle of a glacier. There was no surface magma, but there was a nice flat, round patch of obsidian surrounded by ice. After digging down three levels through this &amp;quot;cap&amp;quot;, I hit live magma. It's actually a nice setup, as I've basically set up a small fort *in* the cap--basically my dwarves are living in the mouth of the volcano, with the basement level dedicated to magma smelters, forges, glass furnaces, etc. --[[User:RedKing|RedKing]] 04:26, 9 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I added a section regarding &amp;quot;Built objects vs. Magma&amp;quot;. I think it's absolutely vital we establish what does and doesn't melt in magma, in a clean list. There are quite a few things that could be added to that list (Constructed floors for one) so please, do add to it. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 17:31, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Have you tested the bridges? I conjecture that all buildings and constructions without mechanisms are perfectly fine with magma contact. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 10:37, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The bridges part was cut from another section of the article and moved in there. Since it was already here, I assumed it was accurate. I haven't actually checked myself. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 16:54, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I will verify bridges one way or the other. I'm pretty sure they cant melt, though. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 21:03, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::they dont melt, as they arent actually within the magma. that was copied over from the 2d wiki and nobody removed it -[[User:Chariot|Chariot]] 22:29, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I noticed you removed the line about bridges. It seems silly not to mention them at all, so I've written up a line about them working no matter what the material and stuck it in.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Replenishing Magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since magma replenishes now, I've rewritten that snippet from the article. If I've missed something(a kind of magma not regenerating, though this always worked for me on several maps), feel free to correct things. --[[User:Romantic Warrior|Romantic Warrior]] 15:47, 18 February 2008 (EST).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Temperature ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does magma increase the temperature of things around it? Can it be used to melt ice? --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 20:26, 3 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not sure how the temperature calculations are done, but I CAN tell you that magma will melt nearby ice. Check out http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-153-meltingwateronglacier to see it in action. [[User:Zaranthan|Zaranthan]] 15:23, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It should be a flow, just like the magma itself. One of the other visible results is warm stone. The same can probably be said for water and damp stone as well. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 17:01, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have a magma pipe (pit) in my current fortress... I breached the pipe from the lowest level because of the diagonal bug when I discovered it, and it filled some long exploratory shafts. Since then, the top magma layer is down to 5/7 and 6/7 running all over the surface. After a little while, it's easy to see that magma act curiously: instead of bouncing from wall to wall like real water physics, in my game the 5/7 (the flow) seems to all move in the same direction at the same time. The direction change often, and seem to change randomly. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 22:43, 26 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is another way to stop a flow of magma that's moving through a tunnel. You can go one z-level higher, dig to a spot above the magma-filled tunnel, then build a channel above where the magma is flowing and assign it as a Pond Zone. So long as you have buckets and a viable Water Source zone, a dwarf will come along and drop water on the magma, instantly turning it into obsidian and blocking the tunnel. --[[User:Stromko]] January 6th, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
: I've tried this - it rarely works. Usually you just destroy 1/7 of the magma per bucket, along with the water from the bucket, and nothing turns to obsidian. You need to hit it with larger quantities of water at once to get reliable results. --[[User:SL|SL]] 10:35, 6 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, you have to hit it from two levels up. Just one won't do anything.--[[User:Demosthenes|Demosthenes]] 17:07, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Criteria for Magma Buildings==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there a special condition that must be met before Magma Smelters/Forges/Furnaces and so on will appear on the build menus?  I have a magma pit and some channels over it so that I can access it for magma, but I cannot build any magma-using buildings. - [[User:Confused Rat|Confused Rat]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Magma furnaces and forges need a hole somewhere on the ground where they are built. This is to allow the furnace/forge to take the heat from the magma as they are used. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 19:43, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:What he means is that the magma furnaces don't even appear in the build menu. This is because you haven't discovered magma through natural means. The only way this can happen is if you used reveal to find the magma. You'll have to use the [[Utilities#Enable_Magma_Buildings|Enable Magma Buildings]] utility to make them appear. --[[User:Valdemar|Valdemar]] 20:03, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Infinity Generators? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Because magma is currently a finite resource, would it be a good idea to add how to make an infinity generator as workarround untill Toady gives us some more of the stuff?&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—Preceding [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Highlord Asehujiko|Highlord Asehujiko]] ([[User talk:Highlord Asehujiko|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Highlord Asehujiko|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Not on the main article as it would easily be considered cheating. In here, or the [[cheating]] article itself would be fine, the latter probably more appropriate as it could be applied to water as well for those scorching maps. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 19:16, 27 January 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Magma serves as an energy source, powering [[magma forge]]s, [[magma glass furnace]]s and [[magma smelter]]s.  It is extremely dangerous.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Finding magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While in previous versions of Dwarf Fortress, every map was guaranteed to have magma, since v0.27.169.32a magma is now a feature of terrain and may or may not be present.&lt;br /&gt;
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Magma that reaches all the way to the surface is visible on the &amp;quot;local&amp;quot; screen in the starting location chooser.  It is represented as a red ≈ mark (a double tilde) - essentially it looks like red water.  Note that red ≈ marks in the &amp;quot;region&amp;quot; screen mean something different entirely (e.g. red sand). However, it IS actually possible for a volcano that shows up on the &amp;quot;local&amp;quot; and region screen in the starting location chooser to be entirely underground - Although you could see it in the starting location chooser, it would not be visible from the surface once your dwarves have arrived at the fort's site.&lt;br /&gt;
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While picking a starting location, the easiest place to look for magma is on or near a [[volcano]] (a red ^ mark in the &amp;quot;region&amp;quot; screen).  There are often volcanic islands (easy to find, since they are the sole land in the middle of oceans), but since sea travel is not yet implemented, trade with other races may not be possible on such islands.  Instead, find a volcano on land, and (optionally) start looking for a vent in nearby squares.  &amp;quot;Nearby squares&amp;quot; can mean anything from literally on top of the volcano, to adjacent, to quite a long distance away indeed.  The placement of magma seems to be related to the distance from volcanoes, but is still essentially random.&lt;br /&gt;
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Magma vents occur exclusively in world map tiles that are primarily igneous extrusive. That is to say, if you select an entire tile on the embarkation screen and press F1 to highlight the most common terrain, the tile will only have magma if the top stone is dark gray, signifying igneous extrusive rock. Magma does not necessarily form in this geological zone/biome, rather anywhere in the tile. Even if magma is not evident on the surface, it's almost certain to be underground somewhere, though the chances of finding it without reveal.exe are still slim.&lt;br /&gt;
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Much harder than simply finding a magma vent is finding a magma vent that is also near suitable terrain for building.  Depending on your requirements - you may be looking for a source of running water, or a mountain for minerals, or a healthy tree population, or even all three - suitable building sites can be extremely scarce.&lt;br /&gt;
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Since volcanoes show up on the region finder, and magma vents do not, you may find it easier to simply check all volcanoes on a map for suitability, and generate a new world if none are suitable, rather than scouring tile after tile for magma vents.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you're willing to search exhaustively, you might want to consider finding magma vents that are not near volcanoes at all.  Very occasionally, magma will be visible in the middle of forests, plains, or other terrain nowhere near a volcano or even mountains.  There is no way to spot these on the region map, so the only way to identify them is to scroll past hundreds of local maps while keeping an eye out for the distinctive red ≈ symbol.&lt;br /&gt;
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You can also occasionally find magma that does not extend all the way to the surface, and therefore is not visible on the local map.  These are in fact much more numerous than surface-visible magma vents; however, they are almost impossible to find without cheating via one of the [[utilities]] like &amp;quot;reveal.exe&amp;quot;, since unlike proper magma vents these smaller deposits must be almost literally mined into to see (you will get a warning about &amp;quot;warm stone&amp;quot; before you actually breach the deposit).  These smaller magma deposits appear in the same places as normal magma vents - near volcanoes, or, failing that, near other known magma.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Using magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On a map with a magma vent, the magma will be clearly visible from every level ground and below, unless the map is in a Freezing area. In Freezing areas, the top few levels of the vent will have cooled to form an obsidian &amp;quot;cap&amp;quot;. This should still be readily recognizable however, as it will comprise a circular area. The minerals directly adjacent to the magma vent will also be immediately visible, even at the lowest level of the map, which can give some hints about where to prospect for ores.&lt;br /&gt;
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The vent has a similar, circular shape on each level.  However, it is not identical from one level to the next; some levels will have a larger or somewhat misshapen circle of magma.&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary use for magma is to power [[magma smelter]]s, [[magma glass furnace]]s and [[magma forge]]s.  (There are other uses, including defense and possibly even garbage disposal.)  To build forges, etc. on magma, at least one of the external eight squares must be above a square of magma.&lt;br /&gt;
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This can be done most easily by simply building on ground level.  The magma is visible from ground level but is actually contained one level below ground level, just like any ground-level water source.&lt;br /&gt;
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To build underground, you will need to dig at least one tile of a [[channel]] above the location you wish to build the smelter or forge.  Underneath this channel there must be magma, either directly from the vent or channeled from the vent.  You can simply build a tunnel straight into the magma, or use channels to tap into the magma on the level below safely - this latter is easier if there is more magma on the lower level than the level on which you wish to build.  Tapping into magma directly is quite safe, provided that you are prepared for it.  Magma is much slower than water, and can be stopped by a simple floodgate.&lt;br /&gt;
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Volcanoes slowly replenish their supply of magma{{version|0.27.176.38a}}. Other sources of magma do not{{verify}}, limiting the use of magma for traps, moats, etc on maps lacking a volcano.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Magma vs. Built Objects ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Some objects that come in contact with magma will function fine, no matter what their material. Others will melt or cease to work properly.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Workshops that come in contact with the magma (such as forges) need not be built of steel to function.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Constructed walls of any material, even those that are not &amp;quot;Magma-proof&amp;quot;, will hold magma in without issues. &lt;br /&gt;
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* Bridges over magma may be constructed of any material.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Most items that can have mechanisms attached to them must be made of steel or bauxite to function in magma. This includes Floodgates and Screw Pumps{{verify}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Stone mechanisms attached to a construction will melt in magma unless made of bauxite, even if the construction itself is made of steel. In addition, if the mechanisms melt off of a floodgate, the floodgate will cease to be &amp;quot;constructed&amp;quot; and become an unplaced item again.{{version|0.27.176.38a}} At this point, the magma will flow over it freely.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Temperature settings ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Magma is almost harmless if temperature is disabled in the Dwarf Fortress init file.  It can still trap and suffocate or simply starve your dwarves in some situations.  It will not melt bridges, etc. constructed of non-[[magma-proof]] materials.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Magma reactions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Water: If magma happens to contact water it produces some steam and obsidian. This means there is no chance of using a prolonged contact between the two to create a steam trap.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rocks: [[stone|Rock]]s left over from mining will melt if magma covers them.&lt;br /&gt;
*Speed: Magma moves relatively slowly. While it is impossible to try to seal off water let loose, magma is slow enough for your dwarves to build a floodgate or door, or even wall off the flooding area, if you happen to let magma loose by mistake.&lt;br /&gt;
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Are you certain that steel is a requirement for metals in contact with magma? This info conflicts with the [[Magma smelter]] article, which state that using [[Fire-safe materials]] is enough. Don't have a fort with magma yet, but could someone check which one is correct?[[User:Thexor|Thexor]] 19:23, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:If i disable temperature can my dwarfs swim through the magma unharmed? Will it still cause water to steam? [[User:Diabl0658|Diabl0658]] 22:28, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Does the type of rock around the mountainous areas hint at magma? If you check out [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_rocks#Naming this article] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igneous_rock#Mineralogical_classification this site] list a bunch of common volcanic rocks: Granite, Rhyolite, Diorite, Andesite, Gabbro, Basalt, Peridotite and Komatite. Perhaps some clues as to where to find magma?&lt;br /&gt;
:It may be possible to find magma vents by searching for extrusive igneous rocks (such as basalt, felsite, rhyolite and andesite), but continental shelves and deep earth are just naturally made of intrusive igneous rock (such as granite, diorite and gabbro). It's generally indicative of rock that has been pushed up to the surface (or erosion has withered the rock down), and not a volcano.&lt;br /&gt;
::So areas with surface igneous rocks such as basalt, felsite, rhyolite and andesite have a high chance of finding a source of magma below the surface? I'd li♠♠ke to know if it's entirely random or if there is some order or pattern to it. [[User:Schm0|Schm0]] 08:38, 5 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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On a completely different topic: I keep setting up on magma vents but not actually having a magma chamber visible. I assumed one problem was the lack of a border on my plot (so somehow the volcano was actually outside my plot), but even after making it bigger there was still no magma (...but it did have a fancy cave)...This has happened the last 4 times I've tried to start on a volcano, and the world regenerating takes quite a while for ~10 named volcanoes, and then all of the livable ones don't actually have magma.--[[User:UltimaGecko|UltimaGecko]] 16:50, 3 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You might try using reveal.exe to see if the volcano is underground. I just built on a site with a volcano which was not visible from the surface, and used reveal to make sure I hadn't lost my mind (then I killed DF and restarted it so I wouldn't still have the map revealed) - The volcano was entirely underground, covered by layer(s) of rock. I've also added a note to the article saying that it is possible to find a volcano which is visible on the starting screen but not from the surface on-site.--[[User:SL|SL]] 21:54, 7 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think this is related to the temperature of the area. I've got a map with a magma vent in the middle of a glacier. There was no surface magma, but there was a nice flat, round patch of obsidian surrounded by ice. After digging down three levels through this &amp;quot;cap&amp;quot;, I hit live magma. It's actually a nice setup, as I've basically set up a small fort *in* the cap--basically my dwarves are living in the mouth of the volcano, with the basement level dedicated to magma smelters, forges, glass furnaces, etc. --[[User:RedKing|RedKing]] 04:26, 9 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I added a section regarding &amp;quot;Built objects vs. Magma&amp;quot;. I think it's absolutely vital we establish what does and doesn't melt in magma, in a clean list. There are quite a few things that could be added to that list (Constructed floors for one) so please, do add to it. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 17:31, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Have you tested the bridges? I conjecture that all buildings and constructions without mechanisms are perfectly fine with magma contact. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 10:37, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The bridges part was cut from another section of the article and moved in there. Since it was already here, I assumed it was accurate. I haven't actually checked myself. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 16:54, 19 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Replenishing Magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since magma replenishes now, I've rewritten that snippet from the article. If I've missed something(a kind of magma not regenerating, though this always worked for me on several maps), feel free to correct things. --[[User:Romantic Warrior|Romantic Warrior]] 15:47, 18 February 2008 (EST).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Temperature ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does magma increase the temperature of things around it? Can it be used to melt ice? --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 20:26, 3 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not sure how the temperature calculations are done, but I CAN tell you that magma will melt nearby ice. Check out http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-153-meltingwateronglacier to see it in action. [[User:Zaranthan|Zaranthan]] 15:23, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It should be a flow, just like the magma itself. One of the other visible results is warm stone. The same can probably be said for water and damp stone as well. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 17:01, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Flow?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have a magma pipe (pit) in my current fortress... I breached the pipe from the lowest level because of the diagonal bug when I discovered it, and it filled some long exploratory shafts. Since then, the top magma layer is down to 5/7 and 6/7 running all over the surface. After a little while, it's easy to see that magma act curiously: instead of bouncing from wall to wall like real water physics, in my game the 5/7 (the flow) seems to all move in the same direction at the same time. The direction change often, and seem to change randomly. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 22:43, 26 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is another way to stop a flow of magma that's moving through a tunnel. You can go one z-level higher, dig to a spot above the magma-filled tunnel, then build a channel above where the magma is flowing and assign it as a Pond Zone. So long as you have buckets and a viable Water Source zone, a dwarf will come along and drop water on the magma, instantly turning it into obsidian and blocking the tunnel. --[[User:Stromko]] January 6th, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
: I've tried this - it rarely works. Usually you just destroy 1/7 of the magma per bucket, along with the water from the bucket, and nothing turns to obsidian. You need to hit it with larger quantities of water at once to get reliable results. --[[User:SL|SL]] 10:35, 6 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, you have to hit it from two levels up. Just one won't do anything.--[[User:Demosthenes|Demosthenes]] 17:07, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Criteria for Magma Buildings==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there a special condition that must be met before Magma Smelters/Forges/Furnaces and so on will appear on the build menus?  I have a magma pit and some channels over it so that I can access it for magma, but I cannot build any magma-using buildings. - [[User:Confused Rat|Confused Rat]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Magma furnaces and forges need a hole somewhere on the ground where they are built. This is to allow the furnace/forge to take the heat from the magma as they are used. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 19:43, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:What he means is that the magma furnaces don't even appear in the build menu. This is because you haven't discovered magma through natural means. The only way this can happen is if you used reveal to find the magma. You'll have to use the [[Utilities#Enable_Magma_Buildings|Enable Magma Buildings]] utility to make them appear. --[[User:Valdemar|Valdemar]] 20:03, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Infinity Generators? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Because magma is currently a finite resource, would it be a good idea to add how to make an infinity generator as workarround untill Toady gives us some more of the stuff?&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—Preceding [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Highlord Asehujiko|Highlord Asehujiko]] ([[User talk:Highlord Asehujiko|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Highlord Asehujiko|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Not on the main article as it would easily be considered cheating. In here, or the [[cheating]] article itself would be fine, the latter probably more appropriate as it could be applied to water as well for those scorching maps. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 19:16, 27 January 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=Lava&amp;diff=37598</id>
		<title>Lava</title>
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		<updated>2008-02-18T22:44:56Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MOOMANiBE: Redirecting to Magma&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[Magma]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Magma&amp;diff=10426</id>
		<title>40d:Magma</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Magma&amp;diff=10426"/>
		<updated>2008-02-18T22:40:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MOOMANiBE: Forgot to mention bridges!&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Magma serves as an energy source, powering [[magma forge]]s, [[magma glass furnace]]s and [[magma smelter]]s.  It is extremely dangerous.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Finding magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While in previous versions of Dwarf Fortress, every map was guaranteed to have magma, since v0.27.169.32a magma is now a feature of terrain and may or may not be present.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Magma that reaches all the way to the surface is visible on the &amp;quot;local&amp;quot; screen in the starting location chooser.  It is represented as a red ≈ mark (a double tilde) - essentially it looks like red water.  Note that red ≈ marks in the &amp;quot;region&amp;quot; screen mean something different entirely (e.g. red sand). However, it IS actually possible for a volcano that shows up on the &amp;quot;local&amp;quot; and region screen in the starting location chooser to be entirely underground - Although you could see it in the starting location chooser, it would not be visible from the surface once your dwarves have arrived at the fort's site.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While picking a starting location, the easiest place to look for magma is on or near a [[volcano]] (a red ^ mark in the &amp;quot;region&amp;quot; screen).  There are often volcanic islands (easy to find, since they are the sole land in the middle of oceans), but since sea travel is not yet implemented, trade with other races may not be possible on such islands.  Instead, find a volcano on land, and (optionally) start looking for a vent in nearby squares.  &amp;quot;Nearby squares&amp;quot; can mean anything from literally on top of the volcano, to adjacent, to quite a long distance away indeed.  The placement of magma seems to be related to the distance from volcanoes, but is still essentially random.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Magma vents occur exclusively in world map tiles that are primarily igneous extrusive. That is to say, if you select an entire tile on the embarkation screen and press F1 to highlight the most common terrain, the tile will only have magma if the top stone is dark gray, signifying igneous extrusive rock. Magma does not necessarily form in this geological zone/biome, rather anywhere in the tile. Even if magma is not evident on the surface, it's almost certain to be underground somewhere, though the chances of finding it without reveal.exe are still slim.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Much harder than simply finding a magma vent is finding a magma vent that is also near suitable terrain for building.  Depending on your requirements - you may be looking for a source of running water, or a mountain for minerals, or a healthy tree population, or even all three - suitable building sites can be extremely scarce.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Since volcanoes show up on the region finder, and magma vents do not, you may find it easier to simply check all volcanoes on a map for suitability, and generate a new world if none are suitable, rather than scouring tile after tile for magma vents.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you're willing to search exhaustively, you might want to consider finding magma vents that are not near volcanoes at all.  Very occasionally, magma will be visible in the middle of forests, plains, or other terrain nowhere near a volcano or even mountains.  There is no way to spot these on the region map, so the only way to identify them is to scroll past hundreds of local maps while keeping an eye out for the distinctive red ≈ symbol.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You can also occasionally find magma that does not extend all the way to the surface, and therefore is not visible on the local map.  These are in fact much more numerous than surface-visible magma vents; however, they are almost impossible to find without cheating via one of the [[utilities]] like &amp;quot;reveal.exe&amp;quot;, since unlike proper magma vents these smaller deposits must be almost literally mined into to see (you will get a warning about &amp;quot;warm stone&amp;quot; before you actually breach the deposit).  These smaller magma deposits appear in the same places as normal magma vents - near volcanoes, or, failing that, near other known magma.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Using magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On a map with a magma vent, the magma will be clearly visible from every level ground and below, unless the map is in a Freezing area. In Freezing areas, the top few levels of the vent will have cooled to form an obsidian &amp;quot;cap&amp;quot;. This should still be readily recognizable however, as it will comprise a circular area. The minerals directly adjacent to the magma vent will also be immediately visible, even at the lowest level of the map, which can give some hints about where to prospect for ores.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The vent has a similar, circular shape on each level.  However, it is not identical from one level to the next; some levels will have a larger or somewhat misshapen circle of magma.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The primary use for magma is to power [[magma smelter]]s, [[magma glass furnace]]s and [[magma forge]]s.  (There are other uses, including defense and possibly even garbage disposal.)  To build forges, etc. on magma, at least one of the external eight squares must be above a square of magma.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This can be done most easily by simply building on ground level.  The magma is visible from ground level but is actually contained one level below ground level, just like any ground-level water source.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To build underground, you will need to dig at least one tile of a [[channel]] above the location you wish to build the smelter or forge.  Underneath this channel there must be magma, either directly from the vent or channeled from the vent.  You can simply build a tunnel straight into the magma, or use channels to tap into the magma on the level below safely - this latter is easier if there is more magma on the lower level than the level on which you wish to build.  Tapping into magma directly is quite safe, provided that you are prepared for it.  Magma is much slower than water, and can be stopped by a simple floodgate.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Volcanoes slowly replenish their supply of magma{{version|0.27.176.38a}}. Other sources of magma do not{{verify}}, limiting the use of magma for traps, moats, etc on maps lacking a volcano.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Magma vs. Built Objects ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some objects that come in contact with magma will function fine, no matter what their material. Others will melt or cease to work properly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Workshops that come in contact with the magma (such as forges) need not be built of steel to function.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Constructed walls of any material, even those that are not &amp;quot;Magma-proof&amp;quot;, will hold magma in without issues. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Bridges that cross magma must be constructed of steel, as their supports are theoretically submerged in the magma.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Most items that can have mechanisms attached to them must be made of steel or bauxite to function in magma. This includes Floodgates and Screw Pumps{{verify}}.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Stone mechanisms attached to a construction will melt in magma unless made of bauxite, even if the construction itself is made of steel. In addition, if the mechanisms melt off of a floodgate, the floodgate will cease to be &amp;quot;constructed&amp;quot; and become an unplaced item again.{{version|0.27.176.38a}} At this point, the magma will flow over it freely.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Temperature settings ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Magma is almost harmless if temperature is disabled in the Dwarf Fortress init file.  It can still trap and suffocate or simply starve your dwarves in some situations.  It will not melt bridges, etc. constructed of non-[[magma-proof]] materials.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Magma reactions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Water: If magma happens to contact water it produces some steam and obsidian. This means there is no chance of using a prolonged contact between the two to create a steam trap.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rocks: [[stone|Rock]]s left over from mining will melt if magma covers them.&lt;br /&gt;
*Speed: Magma moves relatively slowly. While it is impossible to try to seal off water let loose, magma is slow enough for your dwarves to build a floodgate or door, or even wall off the flooding area, if you happen to let magma loose by mistake.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Physics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Magma&amp;diff=10425</id>
		<title>40d:Magma</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Magma&amp;diff=10425"/>
		<updated>2008-02-18T22:38:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MOOMANiBE: Just linking a few words.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Magma serves as an energy source, powering [[magma forge]]s, [[magma glass furnace]]s and [[magma smelter]]s.  It is extremely dangerous.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Finding magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While in previous versions of Dwarf Fortress, every map was guaranteed to have magma, since v0.27.169.32a magma is now a feature of terrain and may or may not be present.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Magma that reaches all the way to the surface is visible on the &amp;quot;local&amp;quot; screen in the starting location chooser.  It is represented as a red ≈ mark (a double tilde) - essentially it looks like red water.  Note that red ≈ marks in the &amp;quot;region&amp;quot; screen mean something different entirely (e.g. red sand). However, it IS actually possible for a volcano that shows up on the &amp;quot;local&amp;quot; and region screen in the starting location chooser to be entirely underground - Although you could see it in the starting location chooser, it would not be visible from the surface once your dwarves have arrived at the fort's site.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While picking a starting location, the easiest place to look for magma is on or near a [[volcano]] (a red ^ mark in the &amp;quot;region&amp;quot; screen).  There are often volcanic islands (easy to find, since they are the sole land in the middle of oceans), but since sea travel is not yet implemented, trade with other races may not be possible on such islands.  Instead, find a volcano on land, and (optionally) start looking for a vent in nearby squares.  &amp;quot;Nearby squares&amp;quot; can mean anything from literally on top of the volcano, to adjacent, to quite a long distance away indeed.  The placement of magma seems to be related to the distance from volcanoes, but is still essentially random.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Magma vents occur exclusively in world map tiles that are primarily igneous extrusive. That is to say, if you select an entire tile on the embarkation screen and press F1 to highlight the most common terrain, the tile will only have magma if the top stone is dark gray, signifying igneous extrusive rock. Magma does not necessarily form in this geological zone/biome, rather anywhere in the tile. Even if magma is not evident on the surface, it's almost certain to be underground somewhere, though the chances of finding it without reveal.exe are still slim.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Much harder than simply finding a magma vent is finding a magma vent that is also near suitable terrain for building.  Depending on your requirements - you may be looking for a source of running water, or a mountain for minerals, or a healthy tree population, or even all three - suitable building sites can be extremely scarce.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Since volcanoes show up on the region finder, and magma vents do not, you may find it easier to simply check all volcanoes on a map for suitability, and generate a new world if none are suitable, rather than scouring tile after tile for magma vents.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you're willing to search exhaustively, you might want to consider finding magma vents that are not near volcanoes at all.  Very occasionally, magma will be visible in the middle of forests, plains, or other terrain nowhere near a volcano or even mountains.  There is no way to spot these on the region map, so the only way to identify them is to scroll past hundreds of local maps while keeping an eye out for the distinctive red ≈ symbol.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You can also occasionally find magma that does not extend all the way to the surface, and therefore is not visible on the local map.  These are in fact much more numerous than surface-visible magma vents; however, they are almost impossible to find without cheating via one of the [[utilities]] like &amp;quot;reveal.exe&amp;quot;, since unlike proper magma vents these smaller deposits must be almost literally mined into to see (you will get a warning about &amp;quot;warm stone&amp;quot; before you actually breach the deposit).  These smaller magma deposits appear in the same places as normal magma vents - near volcanoes, or, failing that, near other known magma.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Using magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On a map with a magma vent, the magma will be clearly visible from every level ground and below, unless the map is in a Freezing area. In Freezing areas, the top few levels of the vent will have cooled to form an obsidian &amp;quot;cap&amp;quot;. This should still be readily recognizable however, as it will comprise a circular area. The minerals directly adjacent to the magma vent will also be immediately visible, even at the lowest level of the map, which can give some hints about where to prospect for ores.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The vent has a similar, circular shape on each level.  However, it is not identical from one level to the next; some levels will have a larger or somewhat misshapen circle of magma.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The primary use for magma is to power [[magma smelter]]s, [[magma glass furnace]]s and [[magma forge]]s.  (There are other uses, including defense and possibly even garbage disposal.)  To build forges, etc. on magma, at least one of the external eight squares must be above a square of magma.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This can be done most easily by simply building on ground level.  The magma is visible from ground level but is actually contained one level below ground level, just like any ground-level water source.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To build underground, you will need to dig at least one tile of a [[channel]] above the location you wish to build the smelter or forge.  Underneath this channel there must be magma, either directly from the vent or channeled from the vent.  You can simply build a tunnel straight into the magma, or use channels to tap into the magma on the level below safely - this latter is easier if there is more magma on the lower level than the level on which you wish to build.  Tapping into magma directly is quite safe, provided that you are prepared for it.  Magma is much slower than water, and can be stopped by a simple floodgate.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Volcanoes slowly replenish their supply of magma{{version|0.27.176.38a}}. Other sources of magma do not{{verify}}, limiting the use of magma for traps, moats, etc on maps lacking a volcano.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Magma vs. Built Objects ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some objects that come in contact with magma will function fine, no matter what their material. Others will melt or cease to work properly.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Workshops that come in contact with the magma (such as forges) need not be built of steel to function.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Constructed walls of any material, even those that are not &amp;quot;Magma-proof&amp;quot;, will hold magma in without issues. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Most items that can have mechanisms attached to them must be made of steel or bauxite to function in magma. This includes [[Floodgate|Floodgates]] and [[Screw_pump|Screw Pumps]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Stone mechanisms attached to a construction will melt in magma unless made of [[bauxite]] or [[Raw_adamantine|adamantine]], even if the construction itself is made of steel. In addition, if the mechanisms melt off of a floodgate, the floodgate will cease to be &amp;quot;constructed&amp;quot; and become an unplaced item again.{{version|0.27.176.38a}} At this point, the magma will flow over it freely.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Temperature settings ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Magma is almost harmless if temperature is disabled in the Dwarf Fortress init file.  It can still trap and suffocate or simply starve your dwarves in some situations.  It will not melt bridges, etc. constructed of non-[[magma-proof]] materials.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Magma reactions ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*Water: If magma happens to contact water it produces some steam and obsidian. This means there is no chance of using a prolonged contact between the two to create a steam trap.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rocks: [[stone|Rock]]s left over from mining will melt if magma covers them.&lt;br /&gt;
*Speed: Magma moves relatively slowly. While it is impossible to try to seal off water let loose, magma is slow enough for your dwarves to build a floodgate or door, or even wall off the flooding area, if you happen to let magma loose by mistake.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Physics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Magma&amp;diff=11204</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Magma</title>
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		<updated>2008-02-18T22:31:41Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MOOMANiBE: &lt;/p&gt;
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Are you certain that steel is a requirement for metals in contact with magma? This info conflicts with the [[Magma smelter]] article, which state that using [[Fire-safe materials]] is enough. Don't have a fort with magma yet, but could someone check which one is correct?[[User:Thexor|Thexor]] 19:23, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:If i disable temperature can my dwarfs swim through the magma unharmed? Will it still cause water to steam? [[User:Diabl0658|Diabl0658]] 22:28, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Does the type of rock around the mountainous areas hint at magma? If you check out [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_rocks#Naming this article] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igneous_rock#Mineralogical_classification this site] list a bunch of common volcanic rocks: Granite, Rhyolite, Diorite, Andesite, Gabbro, Basalt, Peridotite and Komatite. Perhaps some clues as to where to find magma?&lt;br /&gt;
:It may be possible to find magma vents by searching for extrusive igneous rocks (such as basalt, felsite, rhyolite and andesite), but continental shelves and deep earth are just naturally made of intrusive igneous rock (such as granite, diorite and gabbro). It's generally indicative of rock that has been pushed up to the surface (or erosion has withered the rock down), and not a volcano.&lt;br /&gt;
::So areas with surface igneous rocks such as basalt, felsite, rhyolite and andesite have a high chance of finding a source of magma below the surface? I'd li♠♠ke to know if it's entirely random or if there is some order or pattern to it. [[User:Schm0|Schm0]] 08:38, 5 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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On a completely different topic: I keep setting up on magma vents but not actually having a magma chamber visible. I assumed one problem was the lack of a border on my plot (so somehow the volcano was actually outside my plot), but even after making it bigger there was still no magma (...but it did have a fancy cave)...This has happened the last 4 times I've tried to start on a volcano, and the world regenerating takes quite a while for ~10 named volcanoes, and then all of the livable ones don't actually have magma.--[[User:UltimaGecko|UltimaGecko]] 16:50, 3 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You might try using reveal.exe to see if the volcano is underground. I just built on a site with a volcano which was not visible from the surface, and used reveal to make sure I hadn't lost my mind (then I killed DF and restarted it so I wouldn't still have the map revealed) - The volcano was entirely underground, covered by layer(s) of rock. I've also added a note to the article saying that it is possible to find a volcano which is visible on the starting screen but not from the surface on-site.--[[User:SL|SL]] 21:54, 7 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think this is related to the temperature of the area. I've got a map with a magma vent in the middle of a glacier. There was no surface magma, but there was a nice flat, round patch of obsidian surrounded by ice. After digging down three levels through this &amp;quot;cap&amp;quot;, I hit live magma. It's actually a nice setup, as I've basically set up a small fort *in* the cap--basically my dwarves are living in the mouth of the volcano, with the basement level dedicated to magma smelters, forges, glass furnaces, etc. --[[User:RedKing|RedKing]] 04:26, 9 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Added new section ==&lt;br /&gt;
I added a section regarding &amp;quot;Built objects vs. Magma&amp;quot;. I think it's absolutely vital we establish what does and doesn't melt in magma, in a clean list. There are quite a few things that could be added to that list (Constructed floors for one) so please, do add to it. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 17:31, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Replenishing Magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since magma replenishes now, I've rewritten that snippet from the article. If I've missed something(a kind of magma not regenerating, though this always worked for me on several maps), feel free to correct things. --[[User:Romantic Warrior|Romantic Warrior]] 15:47, 18 February 2008 (EST).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Temperature ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does magma increase the temperature of things around it? Can it be used to melt ice? --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 20:26, 3 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not sure how the temperature calculations are done, but I CAN tell you that magma will melt nearby ice. Check out http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-153-meltingwateronglacier to see it in action. [[User:Zaranthan|Zaranthan]] 15:23, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It should be a flow, just like the magma itself. One of the other visible results is warm stone. The same can probably be said for water and damp stone as well. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 17:01, 26 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Flow?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have a magma pipe (pit) in my current fortress... I breached the pipe from the lowest level because of the diagonal bug when I discovered it, and it filled some long exploratory shafts. Since then, the top magma layer is down to 5/7 and 6/7 running all over the surface. After a little while, it's easy to see that magma act curiously: instead of bouncing from wall to wall like real water physics, in my game the 5/7 (the flow) seems to all move in the same direction at the same time. The direction change often, and seem to change randomly. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 22:43, 26 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is another way to stop a flow of magma that's moving through a tunnel. You can go one z-level higher, dig to a spot above the magma-filled tunnel, then build a channel above where the magma is flowing and assign it as a Pond Zone. So long as you have buckets and a viable Water Source zone, a dwarf will come along and drop water on the magma, instantly turning it into obsidian and blocking the tunnel. --[[User:Stromko]] January 6th, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
: I've tried this - it rarely works. Usually you just destroy 1/7 of the magma per bucket, along with the water from the bucket, and nothing turns to obsidian. You need to hit it with larger quantities of water at once to get reliable results. --[[User:SL|SL]] 10:35, 6 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, you have to hit it from two levels up. Just one won't do anything.--[[User:Demosthenes|Demosthenes]] 17:07, 18 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Criteria for Magma Buildings==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there a special condition that must be met before Magma Smelters/Forges/Furnaces and so on will appear on the build menus?  I have a magma pit and some channels over it so that I can access it for magma, but I cannot build any magma-using buildings. - [[User:Confused Rat|Confused Rat]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Magma furnaces and forges need a hole somewhere on the ground where they are built. This is to allow the furnace/forge to take the heat from the magma as they are used. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 19:43, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:What he means is that the magma furnaces don't even appear in the build menu. This is because you haven't discovered magma through natural means. The only way this can happen is if you used reveal to find the magma. You'll have to use the [[Utilities#Enable_Magma_Buildings|Enable Magma Buildings]] utility to make them appear. --[[User:Valdemar|Valdemar]] 20:03, 25 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Infinity Generators? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Because magma is currently a finite resource, would it be a good idea to add how to make an infinity generator as workarround untill Toady gives us some more of the stuff?&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;—Preceding [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Highlord Asehujiko|Highlord Asehujiko]] ([[User talk:Highlord Asehujiko|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Highlord Asehujiko|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Not on the main article as it would easily be considered cheating. In here, or the [[cheating]] article itself would be fine, the latter probably more appropriate as it could be applied to water as well for those scorching maps. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 19:16, 27 January 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Magma serves as an energy source, powering [[magma forge]]s, [[magma glass furnace]]s and [[magma smelter]]s.  It is extremely dangerous.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Finding magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While in previous versions of Dwarf Fortress, every map was guaranteed to have magma, since v0.27.169.32a magma is now a feature of terrain and may or may not be present.&lt;br /&gt;
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Magma that reaches all the way to the surface is visible on the &amp;quot;local&amp;quot; screen in the starting location chooser.  It is represented as a red ≈ mark (a double tilde) - essentially it looks like red water.  Note that red ≈ marks in the &amp;quot;region&amp;quot; screen mean something different entirely (e.g. red sand). However, it IS actually possible for a volcano that shows up on the &amp;quot;local&amp;quot; and region screen in the starting location chooser to be entirely underground - Although you could see it in the starting location chooser, it would not be visible from the surface once your dwarves have arrived at the fort's site.&lt;br /&gt;
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While picking a starting location, the easiest place to look for magma is on or near a [[volcano]] (a red ^ mark in the &amp;quot;region&amp;quot; screen).  There are often volcanic islands (easy to find, since they are the sole land in the middle of oceans), but since sea travel is not yet implemented, trade with other races may not be possible on such islands.  Instead, find a volcano on land, and (optionally) start looking for a vent in nearby squares.  &amp;quot;Nearby squares&amp;quot; can mean anything from literally on top of the volcano, to adjacent, to quite a long distance away indeed.  The placement of magma seems to be related to the distance from volcanoes, but is still essentially random.&lt;br /&gt;
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Magma vents occur exclusively in world map tiles that are primarily igneous extrusive. That is to say, if you select an entire tile on the embarkation screen and press F1 to highlight the most common terrain, the tile will only have magma if the top stone is dark gray, signifying igneous extrusive rock. Magma does not necessarily form in this geological zone/biome, rather anywhere in the tile. Even if magma is not evident on the surface, it's almost certain to be underground somewhere, though the chances of finding it without reveal.exe are still slim.&lt;br /&gt;
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Much harder than simply finding a magma vent is finding a magma vent that is also near suitable terrain for building.  Depending on your requirements - you may be looking for a source of running water, or a mountain for minerals, or a healthy tree population, or even all three - suitable building sites can be extremely scarce.&lt;br /&gt;
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Since volcanoes show up on the region finder, and magma vents do not, you may find it easier to simply check all volcanoes on a map for suitability, and generate a new world if none are suitable, rather than scouring tile after tile for magma vents.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you're willing to search exhaustively, you might want to consider finding magma vents that are not near volcanoes at all.  Very occasionally, magma will be visible in the middle of forests, plains, or other terrain nowhere near a volcano or even mountains.  There is no way to spot these on the region map, so the only way to identify them is to scroll past hundreds of local maps while keeping an eye out for the distinctive red ≈ symbol.&lt;br /&gt;
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You can also occasionally find magma that does not extend all the way to the surface, and therefore is not visible on the local map.  These are in fact much more numerous than surface-visible magma vents; however, they are almost impossible to find without cheating via one of the [[utilities]] like &amp;quot;reveal.exe&amp;quot;, since unlike proper magma vents these smaller deposits must be almost literally mined into to see (you will get a warning about &amp;quot;warm stone&amp;quot; before you actually breach the deposit).  These smaller magma deposits appear in the same places as normal magma vents - near volcanoes, or, failing that, near other known magma.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Using magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On a map with a magma vent, the magma will be clearly visible from every level ground and below, unless the map is in a Freezing area. In Freezing areas, the top few levels of the vent will have cooled to form an obsidian &amp;quot;cap&amp;quot;. This should still be readily recognizable however, as it will comprise a circular area. The minerals directly adjacent to the magma vent will also be immediately visible, even at the lowest level of the map, which can give some hints about where to prospect for ores.&lt;br /&gt;
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The vent has a similar, circular shape on each level.  However, it is not identical from one level to the next; some levels will have a larger or somewhat misshapen circle of magma.&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary use for magma is to power [[magma smelter]]s, [[magma glass furnace]]s and [[magma forge]]s.  (There are other uses, including defense and possibly even garbage disposal.)  To build forges, etc. on magma, at least one of the external eight squares must be above a square of magma.&lt;br /&gt;
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This can be done most easily by simply building on ground level.  The magma is visible from ground level but is actually contained one level below ground level, just like any ground-level water source.&lt;br /&gt;
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To build underground, you will need to dig at least one tile of a [[channel]] above the location you wish to build the smelter or forge.  Underneath this channel there must be magma, either directly from the vent or channeled from the vent.  You can simply build a tunnel straight into the magma, or use channels to tap into the magma on the level below safely - this latter is easier if there is more magma on the lower level than the level on which you wish to build.  Tapping into magma directly is quite safe, provided that you are prepared for it.  Magma is much slower than water, and can be stopped by a simple floodgate.&lt;br /&gt;
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Volcanoes slowly replenish their supply of magma{{version|0.27.176.38a}}. Other sources of magma do not{{verify}}, limiting the use of magma for traps, moats, etc on maps lacking a volcano.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Magma vs. Built Objects ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Some objects that come in contact with magma will function fine, no matter what their material. Others will melt or cease to work properly.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Workshops that come in contact with the magma (such as forges) need not be built of steel to function.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Constructed walls of any material, even those that are not &amp;quot;Magma-proof&amp;quot;, will hold magma in without issues. &lt;br /&gt;
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* Most items that can have mechanisms attached to them must be made of steel or bauxite to function in magma. This includes Floodgates and Screw Pumps{{verify}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Stone mechanisms attached to a construction will melt in magma unless made of bauxite, even if the construction itself is made of steel. In addition, if the mechanisms melt off of a floodgate, the floodgate will cease to be &amp;quot;constructed&amp;quot; and become an unplaced item again.{{version|0.27.176.38a}} At this point, the magma will flow over it freely.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Temperature settings ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Magma is almost harmless if temperature is disabled in the Dwarf Fortress init file.  It can still trap and suffocate or simply starve your dwarves in some situations.  It will not melt bridges, etc. constructed of non-[[magma-proof]] materials.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Magma reactions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Water: If magma happens to contact water it produces some steam and obsidian. This means there is no chance of using a prolonged contact between the two to create a steam trap.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rocks: [[stone|Rock]]s left over from mining will melt if magma covers them.&lt;br /&gt;
*Speed: Magma moves relatively slowly. While it is impossible to try to seal off water let loose, magma is slow enough for your dwarves to build a floodgate or door, or even wall off the flooding area, if you happen to let magma loose by mistake.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Physics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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