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User talk:Nagidal

2012-08-08T17:50:57Z

Morekouto: /* Your Sample Starting Build. */

You can talk with me on this page.

--[[User:Nagidal|Nagidal]] 11:49, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

== Image Uploads ==

I noticed you were wondering why image uploads are down. We had to increase the wiki cluster size by an additional 2 servers this past week, and we haven't quite gotten images working again yet. We'll have them running again soon, thoug. Sorry for the delay! --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 16:55, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
:Image uploads are functional again. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 09:16, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

== Aquifers ==
Just wanted to say, your sandbox for aquifer stuff is looking really good. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 10:21, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

== Tile set used on your pictures ==

Hello! I wonder: what tile set / preferences did you use when creating the pictures in your double slit method article? It looks like some squared version of the default tile set to me, and really nice too. It would be very kind of you to tell me where / how I could make my game look like this. It really keeps the ASCII feeling up while not having the annoying 'non-squaredness' of the default tile set :) --[[User:Kenran|Kenran]] 10:15, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

As I wrote in my second message on the bay12 forums, this 'problem' is resolved by now since I overlooked your own tile set in the first place :) Sorry for the inconvenience. I'm looking forward to your streaming some time, the uploaded stuff was very promising! --[[User:Kenran|Kenran]] 10:28, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

== The Stockpile Overview. ==

Hello again Nagi, I'm glad to see that my talk page is usable now. I have read both your comment on my page, and the one for the stockpile on the wiki on Emi's page. And I agree to doing any sort of help possible, from your stockpile explanation I do agree with the 3rd outcome but at the same time favor the 1st one as it requires less pages. But regardless, I will help you based on what the admins or moderators of the wiki say. --[[User:Morekouto|Morekouto]] 17:50, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

User talk:Nagidal

2012-08-05T17:45:12Z

Morekouto: /* Your Sample Starting Build. */ new section

You can talk with me on this page.

--[[User:Nagidal|Nagidal]] 11:49, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

== Image Uploads ==

I noticed you were wondering why image uploads are down. We had to increase the wiki cluster size by an additional 2 servers this past week, and we haven't quite gotten images working again yet. We'll have them running again soon, thoug. Sorry for the delay! --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 16:55, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
:Image uploads are functional again. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 09:16, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

== Aquifers ==
Just wanted to say, your sandbox for aquifer stuff is looking really good. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 10:21, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

== Tile set used on your pictures ==

Hello! I wonder: what tile set / preferences did you use when creating the pictures in your double slit method article? It looks like some squared version of the default tile set to me, and really nice too. It would be very kind of you to tell me where / how I could make my game look like this. It really keeps the ASCII feeling up while not having the annoying 'non-squaredness' of the default tile set :) --[[User:Kenran|Kenran]] 10:15, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

As I wrote in my second message on the bay12 forums, this 'problem' is resolved by now since I overlooked your own tile set in the first place :) Sorry for the inconvenience. I'm looking forward to your streaming some time, the uploaded stuff was very promising! --[[User:Kenran|Kenran]] 10:28, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

== Your Sample Starting Build. ==

Hey Nagi, if you check the recent changes as of the time that I've made this topic on your page you'll see I made a small edit to the listed subject above. It's under farming, and is nothing too major. I hope that you are fine with this minor edit. --[[User:Morekouto|Morekouto]] 17:45, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

v0.34:Sample Starting Builds

2012-08-05T17:41:33Z

Morekouto: /* Farming */

This is a collection of '''starting builds''' (or embark setups) which individual players find useful and generally worth trying.

== Nagidal's Allrounder ==

Recommended for newbies who want to play a ''defensive'' embark on sites with ''mild conditions'' (warm or temperate [[climate]], easy access to drinking [[water]], [[tree]]s and [[stone]]).

=== Dwarves ===

According to the dwarves' [[attributes]] you assign:

* 2 Proficient [[Miner]]s (high [[Attributes#Endurance|endurance]], high [[Attributes#Willpower|willpower]], good [[Attributes#Kinesthetic_Sense|kinesthetic sense]])
* 1 Proficient [[Mason]] (good [[Attributes#Creativity|creativity]], good endurance)
* 1 Proficient [[Mechanic]] (good [[Attributes#Analytical_Ability|analytical ability]])
* 1 Proficient [[Grower]] (good [[Attributes#Agility|agility]])
* 1 Proficient [[Wood cutter]]
* 1 Proficient [[Carpenter]]

Make one of five non-miners at least an adequate [[Appraiser]] (the one with good [[Attributes#Memory|memory]] or [[Attributes#Intuition|intuition]]).

=== Items ===

Keep all the standard stuff, sell some [[splint]]s, [[crutch]]es and [[quiver]]s to buy a couple of [[cat]]s and a dog or two. (The cats will eat the [[vermin]] trying to eat your food supplies.) You can also sell one of the battle axes or the anvil to buy even more stock or some more [[drink]]s and [[food]] if you wish.

Some dwarven [[civilization]]s start with a [[steel]] [[anvil]] rather than an [[iron]] one which will reduce the amount of points you can use for the dwarves' skills and items. In this case, sell the anvil and rely on [[merchant]]s bringing you one.

=== First year roadmap ===

We deliberately did't take any [[cook]]s or [[brewer]]s. You can pick both from one of the first [[Immigration|migration waves]]. Also, we don't have any [[military]] to start with. The idea is that our mechanic and carpenter will build us many wooden cage [[trap]]s which will easily deal with the first [[ambush]]es, maybe even the first [[siege]]. Any useless migrants of the later waves will become our military.

Your aims for the first year are: farming, traps, trade, healthcare (ordered by importance)

==== Farming ====
Start [[farming]] as soon as possible. Try to harvest the spring crop of your first year. Be careful not to produce too much food. Be sure to have some [[barrel]]s, (or rock pots,) reserved for drinks rather than stuffed with [[plump helmet]]s. Thirty tiles of farm plots are more than enough to start with. If you really want to farm more, try [[pig tail]]s and get the [[textile industry]] up and running once you have more dwarves.

==== Traps ====
Build a [[mechanic's workshop]] soon and let him churn out about 2–3 dozens of [[mechanism]]s. Your carpenter should produce roughly as much wooden cages before autumn. When you build traps, build them in a one tile wide meandring corridor—preferably outdoors. There should be no way around this corridor for the enemies. Use raising [[bridge]]s to direct the flow of all enemies heading for your fort's entrance through this trap corridor. Lower the bridges to allow your dwarves fast access to the fort's entrance bypassing the trap corridor. You should have at least ten traps up and ready by autumn. To deal with a [[siege]] in the later years without fighting you better have 40 of these traps ready.

==== Trade ====
Make one of your first immigrants a [[Stone crafter|stone crafter]] and let him make stone crafts 24/7. You will need them as [[trade]] goods. Textile industry is also a good starter. If your farms produce enough pig tails, go for it and ship some fine socks to your mountain homes.

==== Healthcare ====
Before you start thinking of having some military, build a [[well]] and a [[hospital]].

[[Category:DF2012:Guides]]

User talk:Emi

2012-08-05T17:29:44Z

Morekouto: /* Another User Page. */ new section

Please leave new messages by pressing the new section button. It is next to the edit button, and says "Add topic". Be sure to sign your message with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> so I know who left me the message.
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== Empty DF:2012 Articles ==

Hello, I'd like to offer a few suggestions:
* Could the bot which went through and replaced all the v0.31 article links with DF:2012 links be modified to actually create those articles with a <nowiki>{{av}}</nowiki> template inserted, so that users can reference an older version easily while understanding that it could be outdated?
* Could a bot be created to go through all the current dead links and create those articles and place a <nowiki>{{av}}</nowiki> template within them?
* Failing that, I'd be willing to volunteer for this; I understand that I should talk to you for article creation. In that case, would I have to present you with a list of articles to be created?
--[[User:Reilwin|Reilwin]] 02:53, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

:Looks like I can create articles myself after enough edits. --[[User:Reilwin|Reilwin]] 06:35, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

== Spanish translation ==

Hello! I'm a Spanish player of this game and I would like to begin the translation of this wiki into Spanish. I hope you like the idea! Regards.

== PROBLEM ==
since you "upgraded" the wiki, sometimes when i try to load a page, any kind of page in the wiki, instead of loading the page, my browser (chrome) starts downloading a file like this: DF2010-Magma.gz
the file never ends downloading and it contains nothing, so i dont know whats the deal with that, sometime is loads teh page as usual
*Take a look at [http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=96229.0 this forum thread] - most cases seem to result from using Avast Antivirus along with Google Chrome. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 00:38, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

== Upload Button Missing ==
Hello. I've uploaded [[http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/File:DA_Quarters.JPG,stuff]] before, but the upload link seems to have vanished for me. (I'd like to upload a small .exe file which makes the depot tradeing semi-automated so I can link to it from my user page.) What should I do?

Thanks,
--[[User:DDR|-DDR]] 01:28, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Update: Oh, so it's just down for a few days? OK, I'll be patient. Thanks for all the work you've done here, Emi. :)

== Eagles ==

Why can't I create new pages? I want to create a page about normal eagles.

: This wiki is going through a lot now. New name space for the latest DF version has been created and articles are copied to it, as far as they are still valid for the new version. Also this wiki's cluster size has been increased by two new servers and many things around it are being configured. So I think the admins just prohibited new article creation for a while until they sort things out. --[[User:Nagidal|Nagidal]] 17:31, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

: I've seen Briss has created the Eagle page, maybe it's so that you can fill it with content. --[[User:Nagidal|Nagidal]] 18:50, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

== a namespace just for me? ==

It says that if i'd like a user page i should post here asking for one.
can i have a namespace for me please? under Zazq? [[User:Zazq|Zazq]] 21:48, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

: A namespace is not the same as a user page. I'm almost sure you can't have a namespace just for you, but you can certainly have your own userpage where you can set up your own sandbox. I have created you your userpage, just click on the link on your name in the signature. You can start forging some good articles on your userpage. --[[User:Nagidal|Nagidal]] 23:46, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

== UserPage ==
could i have a page too? to edit and try stuff before posting ... Edit: it is Mohreb by the way ...

I'd like a user page too, name KevinFragger2427. Thanks.

== v34 Utilities ==

Can we get a [[DF2012:Utilities]] page created?

== Giant sponges ==

Hello, I am new to this wiki and I would like to add articles for giant sponges and giant mosquitoes.

I trust I can just copy-paste the old tags from a DF2010 creature page and change them accordyingly ?

[[User:Naryar|Naryar]] 11:28, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

== Can I have two pages created? ==

I'd like to have two pages created for me, please.

1. I'd like my user-page created, so I can do all the other cool stuff that people do with their user-pages.

2. I would also like a whole new mod article made, please. Title it "Modern Warfare: Year 2100" too, please, as well.

EDIT: Username is UristMcHuman. Sorry I forgot that

== Interactions. ==

I would like a page created under 2012:Interaction, please and thank you. [[User:Lofn|Lofn]] 15:54, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
EDIT: a userpage/sandbox would also be very much appreciated, if you find the time.

== User page for Darchitect. ==

I'd like one, if you'd be so kind.
[[User:Darchitect|Darchitect]] 20:24, 29 February 2012 (UTC)Darchitect

== Favicon Recovery ==

I notice the favicon seems to have gotten lost somewhere along the way. Since I'm the one who initially made it using the main site logo for reference, I still have a copy sitting around. [http://dffd.wimbli.com/images/dfwiki_favicon.ico Here it is, feel free to use it again.]

== Request for User Page ==

Hi there, can you please add a user page for me? Thank you. [[User:Timtek|Timtek]] 11:47, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

== Request for Confirmed User ==

I was wondering what I need to do to be able to upload a file. I registered four days ago, and have been waiting to become an "Autoconfirmed user" so that I can add my tileset to the Tileset repository. The "autoconfirmation" never comes, however. Attempting to google the issue said that I should be autoconfirmed after 3 days, which has not occurred. Am I missing something? --[[User:Taffer|Taffer]] 13:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Hello again! Thanks for the help earlier, and sorry for the second message. Would it be alright if I have a user page? Thank you! --[[User:Taffer|Taffer]] 18:51, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

== Cached Special Pages ==

The wiki currently has [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMiserMode $wgMiserMode] enabled, resulting in a number of [[Special:SpecialPages|special pages]] having their results cached (by MediaWiki itself) to reduce server load, but there's no cron job to run /maintenance/updateSpecialPages.php and actually update those pages - as a result, they're all 3 months out of date. I've mentioned this at least 3 times on IRC but it still hasn't been fixed. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 20:24, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

== Is the DF2012:Creatures page getting too big for the server? ==

The Creatures page still needs to be updated with the new creatures for the lakes/rivers but when I try to submit or preview tha page I get a blank page and a submitted update is not visible on the page. Is the page simply too big now, or is there some server side changes that can be made to fix this? [[User:Organised chaos|Organised chaos]] 20:18, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
*If you ask me, the Creatures page is currently being done '''all wrong''' - it should only list each creature '''once''' and include the relevant biomes, rather than copy/pasting it for every single biome (and introducing errors when one entry has different values from the others). --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 21:00, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

== DFRawFunctions ==

I've got an update for DFRawFunctions (corrects behavior for a few functions and adds new features to some others) which also includes a few new raw files - when you've got a chance, pull 'em from github. In fact, some option to automatically pull updates from github either periodically (once or twice a day) or on demand (e.g. editing a particular wiki page) would be really nice so I won't have to bug you about it. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 18:27, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

== I want to make Korean Wiki. ==

I was looking for administrator to discuss this, but I couldn't find anyone... also, I'm not sure that I should talk it to you. anyway, I leave this here.

I want to make Korean Wiki, There're some Korean fan, but they hardly play the game because of the lack of game information. So I thought They need wiki to know the game. I want to know whether the administrator can found Korean version of this wiki or not.

How can I get the permission about it? Is it needed that something to verify myself to them? I hope I would take a positive answer. --[[User:Tragal|Tragal]] 14:44, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

== Create Redir [[DF2012:Well_guide]] ==

Need a redir or crosslink created from: [[DF2012:Well_guide]] (empty page) -> [[v0.31:Well_guide]]. And/or snap relevant links. --[[User:Kim Bruning|Kim Bruning]] 08:37, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

== Froot wants a userpage too. ==

Hey-lo.
Yet another userpage request.
[[User:Froot|Froot]] 02:08, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

there is no "DF2012 Talk:Cave crocodile", added an my issue about my "Bosa, Cave Crocodile (+trained+)" which cost me about an game-hour lost due to reloading save in the article. Wonder, why there is no "talk" pages for everything by default? There are many cases which need some science before editing articles :(

== Minecarts 101 page? ==

Can we get a "Minecarts 101" page started the same way there are intro pages for things like the military?

Thanks,

[[User:Dhokarena56|Dhokarena56]] 17:25, 14 May 2012 (UTC)dhokarena56

== Page request ==

May I request a userpage?

-Erich

== User page request ==

Hello! I am requesting a userpage. --[[User:Spacer|Spacer]] 15:31, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

== DF2012_Talk:Siege ==

please, create http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012_Talk:Siege

thanks,

[[User:Kartofius al andalus|Kartofius al andalus]] 17:00, 4 June 2012 (UTC) kartofius

== Wiki in spanish??? ==

How can I create a page for the wiki in spanish?

== add #dwarffortress irc.freenode.net to main page IRC section ==

Hello everyone, could you please add #dwarffortress IRC channel on FReeNode in the main page IRC channel list?
Thank you

== new user page request ==

looking for a user page so I can store my scripts in the wiki.

thanks
vjek

[[User:Vjek|Vjek]] 20:17, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

== new page request ==
Hi
could you add a talk page at the "raw adamantine" article
user: grafsnow

== DF2012:World rejection ==

Hi, I'm trying to write the page for DF2012:World rejection http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:World_rejection which has a red link on the Advanced World Generation page but I can't create a new page. Do I need somebody to make it for me? Thanks, Seb. --[[User:SAFry|SAFry]] 19:08, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
:I created it for him. -- [[User:HiEv|Hi]][[User talk:HiEv|Ev]] 02:18, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

== Could I get a page for my mod? ==

I'm currently working on a mod, and I'd really like a page where I can put what the mod is, how you use it, what it includes, etc...
I'm sorry if it looks kinda sketchy that I just created this account today and I'm being vague about the mod Dx
Anyways, if/when you create it, could you title it ''PlayableCiv+''
Thanks:)
[[User:Toxicshadow|Toxicshadow]] 05:30, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

== Arms Industry Page ==

Could you create an "Arms Industry" page for information concerning production of weapons? Alternatively, it could be called "Weapons Industry."

== User Page ==

Would be very glad if i had a user page as a kind of sandbox (and to put some !!science!! stuff up there) [[User:Lorb|Lorb]] 09:53, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

== User Page Request ==

Could you make me a user page?

== Requesting Page Creation for 'Fixed Creatures' ==

There has been some discussion on r/DwarfFortress ([http://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/comments/w8ht8/need_help_my_giant_black_mambas_wont_breed/]) about animals that don't lay eggs that should, eggs that don't hatch due to a missing Tag, and other various issues. I would like to create a space where we can create a list of animals with the values and tags modified to be more accurate. Thanks!--Dragoon209

Edit: I haven't received any word that the pages have been created, and a quick search shows no matches for 'Fixed Creatures'. Is there any information I am missing to start the process? Thanks in advance!
[[User:Dragoon209|Dragoon209]] 18:19, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

: What page titlewould you like? --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 18:26, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

:: How about "DF2012:Fixed_Creature_RAWs"? [[User:Dragoon209|Dragoon209]] 18:34, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

== Outpost Liason ==

I am simply looking for more information about a phenomenon that has happened twice now. An outpost liason came to my fort and asked if I wanted to join their colony. What are the pros and cons of saying either yes or no? Please help!

== Yet Another User Page ==

Just requesting a user page created, to play around in and post some of my own DF-related stuff. Thanks! [[User:MasterShizzle|MasterShizzle]] 17:59, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
:Umm... wow. That was fast! You guys are awesome. [[User:MasterShizzle|MasterShizzle]] 18:12, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

== Symbol Sets (Modding) ==

Can someone create a page for Symbol Sets, as used in Entity files, and found in language_SYM.txt?
[[User:Toxicshadow|Toxicshadow]] 23:32, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

== 2012 Talk:Door ==

Hi Emily,

I'd like to start [[DF2012 Talk:Door]], since I can verify that artifact doors are indestructible. (There is a verify tag for that in the [[DF2012:Door#Notes]] section.) Here is the text I want to add:

<blockquote>
I can verify that artifact doors are indestructible. An artifact door is all that stands between my necropolis fortress (some 100 casualties in the previous siege) and 8 trolls standing right outside the door. The trolls have been there for an entire season. They showed up when the elven caravan arrived in spring, and are still there to greet the human caravan which just arrived.
</blockquote>

[[User:Great Cthulhu|Great Cthulhu]] 23:13, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

== Need 2 pages created ==

I would like to have my user page created, furthermore i would like to help improve the DF2012 Contaminant page,
and i need the DF2012 Talk:Contaminant created. 
[[User:Ipsin|Ipsin - Everything is better with magma ]] 16:06, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

== User page request ==

Hello there! I am writing this to request the a user page (obviously :)) I'm a confirmed user, although I have less than 10 edits so far, I swear I am not a bot! I am actually more interested in the user page as a personal sandbox of the moment to figure out name space templates and the like without messing anything up. I use the wiki daily (I have only been playing for a few months, you guys were a life saver) so I am still going through plenty of articles all the time and would like to contribute more than I am able to now. I learn by doing and don't want to mess up any templates or the like :)

Thanks very much for any help you are able to provide
--
[[User:Phage|Phage]] 05:45, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

== New User Page Request ==

Howdy, looking to get page for my user account.

Let me know if you need any additional info.

Thanks,

[[User:WhiskeyTangoFox|WhiskeyTangoFox]] 01:44, 30 July 2012 (UTC)WhiskeyTangoFox

== Permission to make new Discussion pages? ==

Hi Emi. I was trying to start a Discussion page in the "Sedimentary" article, but ran into a permission error. Since I am a longtime user, may I please have permission to make new pages? [[User:Coaldiamond|-Coaldiamond]] 20:00, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
:It seems like the wiki is a bit buggy in this regard. On [[Special:ListGroupRights]], only Administrators have the "createtalk" permission, which seems to be required to create talk pages. However, I was just able to create [[DF2012 Talk:Sedimentary layer]], but only after several attempts failing from a Permission error. Sometimes it would stop me immediately upon clicking the "Create" tab, and it always seemed to happen when I tried to Show Changes. I'm not really sure why this would happen, unless we're running on multiple servers and the configuration isn't synchronized. Hope this helps. --[[User:Timrem|timrem]] 21:26, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
:i just encoutered this problem today, I thought it'd be prohibited to create a user discussion page but that did not make sense to me. I hope this issue will be resolved soon. --[[User:Nagidal|Nagidal]] 07:28, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

== Another User Page. ==

Just here to request permission to edit my own user-page, let me know if any sort of information is needed from me first in regards to it. --[[User:Morekouto|Morekouto]] 17:29, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

v0.34 Talk:Necromancer

2012-08-01T03:28:07Z

Morekouto:

All my Fortress Mode edits are entirely from personal experience across approx. ten forts in three world gens. Can anyone verify? --[[User:Vietarmis|Vi Et Armis]] 15:17, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

== Hiding necromancers? ==

So randomly some corpses have started animating yet no necromancer is nearby it seems. I'm in a good region and have had no announcements except Urist McHauler cancels store barrel: Interrupted by Kea corpse.
Perhaps Necromancers can ambush?

What else could cause undeath?
--[[User:Merreton|Merreton]] 02:16, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

=====I believe necromancers are capable of hiding and raising corpses while sneaking. Since you're in a good region that rules out the corpses raising themselves, and I don't think good regions produce mists or clouds, so there's no other answer.

=====I can confirm this; my fortress faced an early siege which (apparently) consisted of only a single Elf Corpse. The SIEGE indicator vanished when my military defeated the Elf, but things kept on animating. Later on, I noticed lines in combat log showing that a Human necromancer had been hanging around (in hiding) after the end of the official Siege, and raising corpses.
:Yes, necromancers can hide. I've seen it with sieges, although not as separate ambushes. Even while hidden it still prints into the combat log ('the necromancer is fighting! the x corpse is fighting!') when they raise the dead, so it's easy to know if this is the cause, although that's probably a bug. -- [[User:Qazmlpok|Qazmlpok]] 17:22, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

== Tower Distance ==
Do we have any direct evidence that a tower more than 10 or 11 region tiles away will send necros/zombies to a fortress? In my own experience, the "Tower" designation only shows up if you embark within 11 region tiles of the tower, and I do not recall getting attacked when more than 11 but less than 21 region tiles away. I don't have firm data on the 11-20 region tile distance, however. [[User:Krenshala|Krenshala]] 18:22, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

== Clarification ==

"If you attack one of your own reanimated corpses, all of your reanimated companions will become neutral and will no longer follow you."

The word 'all' being bolded for this page has me concerned and curious, does this apply to zombies that are summoned later by yourself as well?

v0.34:Undead

2012-07-24T03:43:48Z

Morekouto: /* Undead Fun Facts */

{{quality|Exceptional|22:34, 14 June 2012 (UTC)}}
{{av}}
The animated dead are the bodies of formerly living creatures animated through fell magic. Undead can be created intentionally by a [[necromancer]] to serve him, or arise naturally from the dark energies of [[surroundings|evil regions]].

==What is an undead?==
An undead may be formed of either the rotting husk or the bones and shell of a being. The former is considered a zombie, and the latter a skeleton. Although [[vampire]]s are no longer performing the bodily functions of a living being, they are not considered the "animated dead", this term being reserved for a corpse which has begun to move and act on its own or by the will of another, the distinction generally being held as one of cognitive capacity. Where zombies and skeletons cannot think or behave in any sophisticated manner, vampires are willful beings capable of great deception. [[Ghost]]s are called Undead in-game, but they are also not considered animated dead.

As long as the remains of a creature contain a body part capable of grasping, be it a hand or head or the entire upper half, those remains can be animated. This can lead to animated hands and heads, which seems comical until you consider the implications of a swarm of such monstrosities and the havoc that they might wreak. Currently, even some parts of creatures which should be incapable of autonomous movement can be raised, such as the hair or skin. They are, however, predictably nonlethal, mostly serving as a B-movie terror monster to scare your dwarves into running around.. A body part can be resurrected as a zombie even if it has already done so and been de-animated again. It is important to realize that an endless horde of the undead may '''really''' be endless unless the root of the problem is destroyed, or in the case of evil regions, avoided entirely.

==Traits==
Undead retain the wounds that killed them in life, as well as any they have sustained since or from a temporary de-animation. Undead vary in levels of strength depending on their form. Certain types of animal are likely the most dangerous that it is common to encounter, and can have dangerous strength, speed, aggression, and piercing attacks. The undead of butcherable creatures can still be butchered once de-animated, as long as they have not rotted; doing so will prevent them from re-animating again.

Larger undead with the BUILDINGDESTROYER tag can still destroy buildings,though undead with special attacks like webbing will not be able to use them. If found underground, undead will usually path into a fort if they can.

==Thralls, Husks, and Zombies==
Certain kinds of evil [[weather]] can instantly turn any [[syndrome]]-vulnerable creature into a bloodthirsty undead killer, opposed to all life. These creatures are referred to be the sort of weather that transformed them, an identifier as a thrall, husk, or zombie, and their original creature name-- for example, a ''stray guineahen unholy gloom husk''. The specific syndromes that generate these creatures are created at the time the world is generated, but vary only slightly from one another. Some traits these creatures are likely to possess include:
*Increased [[attribute|strength, toughness,]] and/or reduced [[speed]].
*Opposition to life, lack of emotion
*Undead status (NOT_LIVING), sterility, no attribute rust or gain
*An almost complete invulnerability to the effects of damage

Because of the plethora of [[Creature token|tags]] added to these creatures, they are vulnerable only to beheading or bisection. Because the interaction can happen without first killing the target, thrall-like creatures retain any armor or weapons they were carrying. And, perhaps worst of all, they may still be contaminated with the material leading to the transformation, infecting those with whom they wrestle.

==Destruction==
Different strategies are required to beat animated corpses and thralls, respectively. Animated corpses are not difficult to destroy, but require unconventional tactics. These undead have a hit point based damage system, and as such tend to collapse after a few hits. Blunt weapons, being less likely to sever off parts, are the preferred weapons to use. Axes and swords can cut apart the physical form of the undead; this, however, may be dangerous if the source of the undead is still active and present, as the more body parts are about, the more fodder for animation is present. In this case, it is wiser to either butcher the corpses (if they can be butchered), throw them into [[magma]], or [[dwarven atom smasher|pulverise them with a drawbridge]], which will destroy the bodies so thoroughly that they cannot be reanimated again. It should be noted that magma will not currently kill a zombie itself, however.

[[Evil weather]] thralls are much more difficult to destroy. You would not wish to attempt to kill them with puncture wounds, as their organs no longer serve them in any useful regard. Likewise, choking is ineffective against their lack of breath, and unlike corpses, blunt weapons will have next to no effect. The '''only''' way to kill thralls in combat is decapitation and bisection, therefore axes and swords should be used. If possible, and if no risk of infection is at hand, they should ideally be outnumbered by a ratio of ''at least'' two soldiers to one, as even a small wolf husk can easily bring down one armoured dwarf.

The problem of confronting thralls directly is complicated by many factors: among them are their retainment of skills and equipment, and greatly increased strength and durability as compared to animated corpses. If the responsible thralling cloud is in dust form, there is in addition a great risk of infection, creating more thralls from soldier dwarves. Any thrall carrying a melee weapon or armour can dispatch a full squad in short order even with average combat skills, making direct confrontation an unwise choice. Furthermore, due to a bug, it is not unheard of for dwarves to fight very small thralls for so long that they ''starve to death''. In these and other dire cases, it is often better to not combat them at all, instead resorting to traps, [[dwarven atom smasher|atom smashers]] and other indirect ways to neutralise them. [[Magma]] doesn't kill thralls, so caged ones might require a creative way of destroying them, especially if they can destroy buildings.

Reports have been made of zombies animated by the ambient evil of a region deanimating on their own when wandering away from such a vile place.

==Undead Fun Facts==

* Undead can animate from hauled corpses
* Undead will not attack vampires
* Undead risen from starved animals in cages are not caged
* Undead attack Megabeasts as well as invaders, except necromancers
* Creatures capable of evading traps or bypassing locked doors retain that ability as undead.
* Enthralled dwarves from your fortress are not affected by traps.
* Dwarves who like an animal will also enjoy that undead animal

==Bugs==
Dwarves will not report someone missing as dead even if the corpse is gnawing on their ear.

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