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User talk:Rick

2007-12-20T02:48:27Z

N35t0r: /* Update of utilities */

== Requests ==
Hey there. Thanks for writing reveal.exe. It's made my dwarves' lives so much easier!

Do you take requests?

And is this the right place to ask? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 20:32, 10 November 2007 (EST)

: Yes, and yes. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:49, 10 November 2007 (EST)

::Excellent! Now, I don't know how many people would use it, but I'd love to see a utility that would allow me to choose the temperature/forest/shrub/surroundings/neighbours when starting out. I like to stick to the same sort of areas, but it can be a pain finding them on the map - if they exist at all. Problem is, I think most people take what they're given, region-wise... so I don't think it'd have much of an audience. What do you think? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 20:55, 10 November 2007 (EST)

:: Er, I haven't just described startpoints.exe, have I? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 21:01, 10 November 2007 (EST)

::Well, if you're not averse to requests... A utility to activate the subterranean flag on indoor areas would be awesome for those of us who'd like to build surface castles in cold/freezing terrain without our dwarves dying of frostbite. -[[User:EarthquakeDamage|EarthquakeDamage]] 22:45, 10 November 2007 (EST)

::I'd like a rock/gem/ore tool. Would be really neat. Especially the ore/gem one. Also, maybe water/magma creation tools if possible?--[[User:Spelguru|Spelguru]] 01:29, 11 November 2007 (EST)

::Something similar to the old skills.exe would be great! --[[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 11:44, 19 November 2007 (EST)

::What I'd like is some way to search for a particular tile on the map. Probably the easiest thing for you to code is to have reveal.exe have an option where it prints the map data to a file in some simple text format (Just a simple list of 'Z,X,Y "tile code"' would be sufficient. mapping what tiles have what value would be nice, but not necessary.) I want to answer the question "Is the raw material for the item the possessed dwarf is asking for somewhere on my map, and if so, where?" --[[User:Warnold|Warnold]] 23:08, 9 December 2007 (EST)

::I would like to request something that teleports items. --[[User:Demosthenes|Demosthenes]] 02:05, 16 December 2007 (EST)

::Is it possible for a utility to remove excess stone? (name and amount in command line) --[[User:Jackard|Jackard]] 07:35, 16 December 2007 (EST)

== Wild Praise ==
Thank you so much for your incredible work! Your applications add so much fun to the game! --[[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 13:56, 17 November 2007 (EST)

Astonishing response time for 33e! --[[User:Geofferic|Geofferic]] 01:04, 9 December 2007 (EST)

== In reply to ==
Your statement to me on my page, "Don't subject your opinion unto others. (Though I think you were just trying to be funny...) --Rick 03:54, 31 October 2007 (EDT)"

Of course I was. But some people have no real sense of humor.

Also, some people believe they can do things they tell others NOT to do. Your statement is a perfect example of this. You tell me not to subject others to MY opinion, but in doing so you are subjecting me to YOUR opinion. Oh yes, you are one of the VIPs in the DF community, because you wrote a couple utilities. So I suppose I should be humble in your presence, and bow to someone so great. I would do that, but when I bow, I do it facing AWAY from that person, and I drop my trousers at the same time. Still want me to bow to your greatness?

I read other contributions here that voice their opinions the same as I did. I wonder if you said the same thing to all of them as well? Tho since I was able to read the pages they wrote, you clearly did not delete their words as you did mine. And while other entries I made were either deleted or edited, as I expected them to be, since I am not a great wiki writer, you were the only one to send me a somewhat nasty note.

Think whatever you like of me, but at least I was contributing, and trying to give a few smiles along the way. Seems to me tho, that DF is fun, and it's wiki should be too. And, from other pages I read, others feel the same way I do. Maybe you should take a look around at some of their pages, and lighten up yourself a bit? Maybe trade with the elves for a tame blue jay, and drop it down your shorts. If that doesnt get a giggle out of you, maybe you should go join the undead at one of their ruins?

: Wow, way to blow up that up, I was just jesting. I think I'll leave your words here, [[User:Darknight|Darknight]]. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:25, 17 November 2007 (EST)

: Oh, and for the record, I did not remove your message, someone else did that. Check the page history. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:29, 17 November 2007 (EST)

== heal.exe bug? ==

Hmm... I've found that heal -hurt doesn't work on fire men, at least in 33b. It sets all their body parts to red, but the fire man just keeps wandering around and scaring my poor witless dwarves. I haven't found a living fire man yet in 33c so I can't check. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 06:59, 28 November 2007 (EST)

: Are firemen immune to pain? Hurt just nukes bodyparts, not kills creatures, most creatures who feel pain will die from that, but I guess ones who don't won't. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 12:08, 28 November 2007 (EST)

:: Just checked - yes they are. That'd explain it then, ta. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 14:38, 28 November 2007 (EST)

== INI? ==

Does anyone see anything obviously wrong about this? I used various comparisons to come to these values (as well as what the hex fellow posted in the memory hacking section), and editing them as such into the reveal.exe allowed me to get that program to function, but the ini isn't reenabling the executables on its own:

<pre>
[address]
DWARF_FORTRESS=0x0089C414 ; correct
MENU_STATE=0x0124565C ; maybe
FOCUSED_CREATURE=0x00C39548 ; correct
CREATURE_VECTOR=0x01420A48 ; correct
MOUSE_X=0x008FF290 ; pretty sure should be 008FF288
MOUSE_Y=0x008FF294 ; pretty sure should be 008FF28C
MOUSE_Z=0x008FF298 ; pretty sure should be 008FF290
MAP_DATA=0x01462568 ; correct
MAP_X_COUNT=0x01462580 ; correct
MAP_Y_COUNT=0x01462584 ; correct
MAP_Z_COUNT=0x01462588 ; correct
STARTING_DWARF_COUNT=0x0078A54E ; wrong. 0078A554 (value actually is dword at 0078A555)
STARTING_POINT_COUNT=0x00789703 ; correct (value actually is word at 0078970A)

[offset]
MAP_DATA_DESIGNATION_OFFSET=0x0260 ; dunno
MAP_DATA_OCCUPANCY_OFFSET=0x660 ; dunno
CREATURE_NAME_OFFSET=0x000 ; yes
CREATURE_BODY_PART_HEALTH_VECTOR_OFFSET=0x308 ; probably
CREATURE_X_OFFSET=0x0094 ; probably
CREATURE_Y_OFFSET=0x0096 ; probably
CREATURE_Z_OFFSET=0x0098 ; probably
</pre>

[[User:Qalnor|Qalnor]] 14:05, 16 December 2007 (EST)

I commented the above. none of the corrections should affect reveal. I don't know what's going wrong. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 19:53, 16 December 2007 (EST)

:: I made a few mistakes when documenting the existing data, which probably threw you guys off. My user page has been updated for 33f. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:41, 16 December 2007 (EST)

:: Thanks, to both of you. I'll have to go over what I was doing when I get home to try and see where I was going wrong. [[User:Qalnor|Qalnor]] 15:11, 17 December 2007 (EST)

== Possible adjuststart enhancement ==
Hi! Merry culturally-appropriate politically-correct generic holiday!

I have found some interesting addresses that work well with adjuststart.

In .33f, the byte at 0078654B holds a constant that is the upper limit that starting skills can be advanced to. It is normally 5 (proficient). If you change it to 15, skills can be advanced to legendary. If you change it to 20, skills can be advanced to legendary+5.

Also in .33f, there's a pair of bytes at 00786466 and 00786608. If you set both to 0, then the 10 skills per dwarf limit is removed.

I've found equivalant addresses for all the .33 releases. They're in the memory hacking subpages.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] ([[User talk:0x517A5D|talk]]{{!}}[[Special:Contributions/0x517A5D|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}

== Update of utilities ==

So how much longer do you suppose it might take to transition the utilities to 33f?--[[User:Heliopios|Heliopios]] 13:04, 19 December 2007 (EST)
:With the .ini method there isnt really a need to rebuild the utilities for 32f. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 15:25, 19 December 2007 (EST)

:And how exactly do you use memory.ini? I've created a new ini file (yes, it's a .ini, not a .ini.txt) and pasted everything under [code] tags for .33f, and lugged it into the dir. with the required executable (heal.exe in this case) but when I run it it still says it was built for .33e. Should I put it somewhere else? In any case, instructions for use are either inexistent or pretty well hidden here in the wiki.
:Cheers. [[User:N35t0r|N35t0r]] 21:45, 19 December 2007 (EST)

User talk:Rick

2007-12-20T02:48:09Z

N35t0r: /* Update of utilities */

== Requests ==
Hey there. Thanks for writing reveal.exe. It's made my dwarves' lives so much easier!

Do you take requests?

And is this the right place to ask? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 20:32, 10 November 2007 (EST)

: Yes, and yes. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:49, 10 November 2007 (EST)

::Excellent! Now, I don't know how many people would use it, but I'd love to see a utility that would allow me to choose the temperature/forest/shrub/surroundings/neighbours when starting out. I like to stick to the same sort of areas, but it can be a pain finding them on the map - if they exist at all. Problem is, I think most people take what they're given, region-wise... so I don't think it'd have much of an audience. What do you think? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 20:55, 10 November 2007 (EST)

:: Er, I haven't just described startpoints.exe, have I? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 21:01, 10 November 2007 (EST)

::Well, if you're not averse to requests... A utility to activate the subterranean flag on indoor areas would be awesome for those of us who'd like to build surface castles in cold/freezing terrain without our dwarves dying of frostbite. -[[User:EarthquakeDamage|EarthquakeDamage]] 22:45, 10 November 2007 (EST)

::I'd like a rock/gem/ore tool. Would be really neat. Especially the ore/gem one. Also, maybe water/magma creation tools if possible?--[[User:Spelguru|Spelguru]] 01:29, 11 November 2007 (EST)

::Something similar to the old skills.exe would be great! --[[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 11:44, 19 November 2007 (EST)

::What I'd like is some way to search for a particular tile on the map. Probably the easiest thing for you to code is to have reveal.exe have an option where it prints the map data to a file in some simple text format (Just a simple list of 'Z,X,Y "tile code"' would be sufficient. mapping what tiles have what value would be nice, but not necessary.) I want to answer the question "Is the raw material for the item the possessed dwarf is asking for somewhere on my map, and if so, where?" --[[User:Warnold|Warnold]] 23:08, 9 December 2007 (EST)

::I would like to request something that teleports items. --[[User:Demosthenes|Demosthenes]] 02:05, 16 December 2007 (EST)

::Is it possible for a utility to remove excess stone? (name and amount in command line) --[[User:Jackard|Jackard]] 07:35, 16 December 2007 (EST)

== Wild Praise ==
Thank you so much for your incredible work! Your applications add so much fun to the game! --[[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 13:56, 17 November 2007 (EST)

Astonishing response time for 33e! --[[User:Geofferic|Geofferic]] 01:04, 9 December 2007 (EST)

== In reply to ==
Your statement to me on my page, "Don't subject your opinion unto others. (Though I think you were just trying to be funny...) --Rick 03:54, 31 October 2007 (EDT)"

Of course I was. But some people have no real sense of humor.

Also, some people believe they can do things they tell others NOT to do. Your statement is a perfect example of this. You tell me not to subject others to MY opinion, but in doing so you are subjecting me to YOUR opinion. Oh yes, you are one of the VIPs in the DF community, because you wrote a couple utilities. So I suppose I should be humble in your presence, and bow to someone so great. I would do that, but when I bow, I do it facing AWAY from that person, and I drop my trousers at the same time. Still want me to bow to your greatness?

I read other contributions here that voice their opinions the same as I did. I wonder if you said the same thing to all of them as well? Tho since I was able to read the pages they wrote, you clearly did not delete their words as you did mine. And while other entries I made were either deleted or edited, as I expected them to be, since I am not a great wiki writer, you were the only one to send me a somewhat nasty note.

Think whatever you like of me, but at least I was contributing, and trying to give a few smiles along the way. Seems to me tho, that DF is fun, and it's wiki should be too. And, from other pages I read, others feel the same way I do. Maybe you should take a look around at some of their pages, and lighten up yourself a bit? Maybe trade with the elves for a tame blue jay, and drop it down your shorts. If that doesnt get a giggle out of you, maybe you should go join the undead at one of their ruins?

: Wow, way to blow up that up, I was just jesting. I think I'll leave your words here, [[User:Darknight|Darknight]]. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:25, 17 November 2007 (EST)

: Oh, and for the record, I did not remove your message, someone else did that. Check the page history. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:29, 17 November 2007 (EST)

== heal.exe bug? ==

Hmm... I've found that heal -hurt doesn't work on fire men, at least in 33b. It sets all their body parts to red, but the fire man just keeps wandering around and scaring my poor witless dwarves. I haven't found a living fire man yet in 33c so I can't check. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 06:59, 28 November 2007 (EST)

: Are firemen immune to pain? Hurt just nukes bodyparts, not kills creatures, most creatures who feel pain will die from that, but I guess ones who don't won't. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 12:08, 28 November 2007 (EST)

:: Just checked - yes they are. That'd explain it then, ta. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 14:38, 28 November 2007 (EST)

== INI? ==

Does anyone see anything obviously wrong about this? I used various comparisons to come to these values (as well as what the hex fellow posted in the memory hacking section), and editing them as such into the reveal.exe allowed me to get that program to function, but the ini isn't reenabling the executables on its own:

<pre>
[address]
DWARF_FORTRESS=0x0089C414 ; correct
MENU_STATE=0x0124565C ; maybe
FOCUSED_CREATURE=0x00C39548 ; correct
CREATURE_VECTOR=0x01420A48 ; correct
MOUSE_X=0x008FF290 ; pretty sure should be 008FF288
MOUSE_Y=0x008FF294 ; pretty sure should be 008FF28C
MOUSE_Z=0x008FF298 ; pretty sure should be 008FF290
MAP_DATA=0x01462568 ; correct
MAP_X_COUNT=0x01462580 ; correct
MAP_Y_COUNT=0x01462584 ; correct
MAP_Z_COUNT=0x01462588 ; correct
STARTING_DWARF_COUNT=0x0078A54E ; wrong. 0078A554 (value actually is dword at 0078A555)
STARTING_POINT_COUNT=0x00789703 ; correct (value actually is word at 0078970A)

[offset]
MAP_DATA_DESIGNATION_OFFSET=0x0260 ; dunno
MAP_DATA_OCCUPANCY_OFFSET=0x660 ; dunno
CREATURE_NAME_OFFSET=0x000 ; yes
CREATURE_BODY_PART_HEALTH_VECTOR_OFFSET=0x308 ; probably
CREATURE_X_OFFSET=0x0094 ; probably
CREATURE_Y_OFFSET=0x0096 ; probably
CREATURE_Z_OFFSET=0x0098 ; probably
</pre>

[[User:Qalnor|Qalnor]] 14:05, 16 December 2007 (EST)

I commented the above. none of the corrections should affect reveal. I don't know what's going wrong. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 19:53, 16 December 2007 (EST)

:: I made a few mistakes when documenting the existing data, which probably threw you guys off. My user page has been updated for 33f. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:41, 16 December 2007 (EST)

:: Thanks, to both of you. I'll have to go over what I was doing when I get home to try and see where I was going wrong. [[User:Qalnor|Qalnor]] 15:11, 17 December 2007 (EST)

== Possible adjuststart enhancement ==
Hi! Merry culturally-appropriate politically-correct generic holiday!

I have found some interesting addresses that work well with adjuststart.

In .33f, the byte at 0078654B holds a constant that is the upper limit that starting skills can be advanced to. It is normally 5 (proficient). If you change it to 15, skills can be advanced to legendary. If you change it to 20, skills can be advanced to legendary+5.

Also in .33f, there's a pair of bytes at 00786466 and 00786608. If you set both to 0, then the 10 skills per dwarf limit is removed.

I've found equivalant addresses for all the .33 releases. They're in the memory hacking subpages.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] ([[User talk:0x517A5D|talk]]{{!}}[[Special:Contributions/0x517A5D|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}

== Update of utilities ==

So how much longer do you suppose it might take to transition the utilities to 33f?--[[User:Heliopios|Heliopios]] 13:04, 19 December 2007 (EST)
:With the .ini method there isnt really a need to rebuild the utilities for 32f. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 15:25, 19 December 2007 (EST)

:And how exactly do you use memory.ini? I've created a new ini file (yes, it's a .ini, not a .ini.txt) and pasted everything under [code] tags for .33f, and lugged it into the dir. with the required executable (heal.exe in this case) but when I run it it still says it was built for .33e. Should I put it somewhere else? In any case, instructions for use are either inexistent or pretty well hidden here in the wiki.
:Cheers[[User:N35t0r|N35t0r]] 21:45, 19 December 2007 (EST)

User talk:Rick

2007-12-20T02:47:54Z

N35t0r: /* Update of utilities */

== Requests ==
Hey there. Thanks for writing reveal.exe. It's made my dwarves' lives so much easier!

Do you take requests?

And is this the right place to ask? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 20:32, 10 November 2007 (EST)

: Yes, and yes. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:49, 10 November 2007 (EST)

::Excellent! Now, I don't know how many people would use it, but I'd love to see a utility that would allow me to choose the temperature/forest/shrub/surroundings/neighbours when starting out. I like to stick to the same sort of areas, but it can be a pain finding them on the map - if they exist at all. Problem is, I think most people take what they're given, region-wise... so I don't think it'd have much of an audience. What do you think? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 20:55, 10 November 2007 (EST)

:: Er, I haven't just described startpoints.exe, have I? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 21:01, 10 November 2007 (EST)

::Well, if you're not averse to requests... A utility to activate the subterranean flag on indoor areas would be awesome for those of us who'd like to build surface castles in cold/freezing terrain without our dwarves dying of frostbite. -[[User:EarthquakeDamage|EarthquakeDamage]] 22:45, 10 November 2007 (EST)

::I'd like a rock/gem/ore tool. Would be really neat. Especially the ore/gem one. Also, maybe water/magma creation tools if possible?--[[User:Spelguru|Spelguru]] 01:29, 11 November 2007 (EST)

::Something similar to the old skills.exe would be great! --[[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 11:44, 19 November 2007 (EST)

::What I'd like is some way to search for a particular tile on the map. Probably the easiest thing for you to code is to have reveal.exe have an option where it prints the map data to a file in some simple text format (Just a simple list of 'Z,X,Y "tile code"' would be sufficient. mapping what tiles have what value would be nice, but not necessary.) I want to answer the question "Is the raw material for the item the possessed dwarf is asking for somewhere on my map, and if so, where?" --[[User:Warnold|Warnold]] 23:08, 9 December 2007 (EST)

::I would like to request something that teleports items. --[[User:Demosthenes|Demosthenes]] 02:05, 16 December 2007 (EST)

::Is it possible for a utility to remove excess stone? (name and amount in command line) --[[User:Jackard|Jackard]] 07:35, 16 December 2007 (EST)

== Wild Praise ==
Thank you so much for your incredible work! Your applications add so much fun to the game! --[[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 13:56, 17 November 2007 (EST)

Astonishing response time for 33e! --[[User:Geofferic|Geofferic]] 01:04, 9 December 2007 (EST)

== In reply to ==
Your statement to me on my page, "Don't subject your opinion unto others. (Though I think you were just trying to be funny...) --Rick 03:54, 31 October 2007 (EDT)"

Of course I was. But some people have no real sense of humor.

Also, some people believe they can do things they tell others NOT to do. Your statement is a perfect example of this. You tell me not to subject others to MY opinion, but in doing so you are subjecting me to YOUR opinion. Oh yes, you are one of the VIPs in the DF community, because you wrote a couple utilities. So I suppose I should be humble in your presence, and bow to someone so great. I would do that, but when I bow, I do it facing AWAY from that person, and I drop my trousers at the same time. Still want me to bow to your greatness?

I read other contributions here that voice their opinions the same as I did. I wonder if you said the same thing to all of them as well? Tho since I was able to read the pages they wrote, you clearly did not delete their words as you did mine. And while other entries I made were either deleted or edited, as I expected them to be, since I am not a great wiki writer, you were the only one to send me a somewhat nasty note.

Think whatever you like of me, but at least I was contributing, and trying to give a few smiles along the way. Seems to me tho, that DF is fun, and it's wiki should be too. And, from other pages I read, others feel the same way I do. Maybe you should take a look around at some of their pages, and lighten up yourself a bit? Maybe trade with the elves for a tame blue jay, and drop it down your shorts. If that doesnt get a giggle out of you, maybe you should go join the undead at one of their ruins?

: Wow, way to blow up that up, I was just jesting. I think I'll leave your words here, [[User:Darknight|Darknight]]. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:25, 17 November 2007 (EST)

: Oh, and for the record, I did not remove your message, someone else did that. Check the page history. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:29, 17 November 2007 (EST)

== heal.exe bug? ==

Hmm... I've found that heal -hurt doesn't work on fire men, at least in 33b. It sets all their body parts to red, but the fire man just keeps wandering around and scaring my poor witless dwarves. I haven't found a living fire man yet in 33c so I can't check. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 06:59, 28 November 2007 (EST)

: Are firemen immune to pain? Hurt just nukes bodyparts, not kills creatures, most creatures who feel pain will die from that, but I guess ones who don't won't. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 12:08, 28 November 2007 (EST)

:: Just checked - yes they are. That'd explain it then, ta. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 14:38, 28 November 2007 (EST)

== INI? ==

Does anyone see anything obviously wrong about this? I used various comparisons to come to these values (as well as what the hex fellow posted in the memory hacking section), and editing them as such into the reveal.exe allowed me to get that program to function, but the ini isn't reenabling the executables on its own:

<pre>
[address]
DWARF_FORTRESS=0x0089C414 ; correct
MENU_STATE=0x0124565C ; maybe
FOCUSED_CREATURE=0x00C39548 ; correct
CREATURE_VECTOR=0x01420A48 ; correct
MOUSE_X=0x008FF290 ; pretty sure should be 008FF288
MOUSE_Y=0x008FF294 ; pretty sure should be 008FF28C
MOUSE_Z=0x008FF298 ; pretty sure should be 008FF290
MAP_DATA=0x01462568 ; correct
MAP_X_COUNT=0x01462580 ; correct
MAP_Y_COUNT=0x01462584 ; correct
MAP_Z_COUNT=0x01462588 ; correct
STARTING_DWARF_COUNT=0x0078A54E ; wrong. 0078A554 (value actually is dword at 0078A555)
STARTING_POINT_COUNT=0x00789703 ; correct (value actually is word at 0078970A)

[offset]
MAP_DATA_DESIGNATION_OFFSET=0x0260 ; dunno
MAP_DATA_OCCUPANCY_OFFSET=0x660 ; dunno
CREATURE_NAME_OFFSET=0x000 ; yes
CREATURE_BODY_PART_HEALTH_VECTOR_OFFSET=0x308 ; probably
CREATURE_X_OFFSET=0x0094 ; probably
CREATURE_Y_OFFSET=0x0096 ; probably
CREATURE_Z_OFFSET=0x0098 ; probably
</pre>

[[User:Qalnor|Qalnor]] 14:05, 16 December 2007 (EST)

I commented the above. none of the corrections should affect reveal. I don't know what's going wrong. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 19:53, 16 December 2007 (EST)

:: I made a few mistakes when documenting the existing data, which probably threw you guys off. My user page has been updated for 33f. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:41, 16 December 2007 (EST)

:: Thanks, to both of you. I'll have to go over what I was doing when I get home to try and see where I was going wrong. [[User:Qalnor|Qalnor]] 15:11, 17 December 2007 (EST)

== Possible adjuststart enhancement ==
Hi! Merry culturally-appropriate politically-correct generic holiday!

I have found some interesting addresses that work well with adjuststart.

In .33f, the byte at 0078654B holds a constant that is the upper limit that starting skills can be advanced to. It is normally 5 (proficient). If you change it to 15, skills can be advanced to legendary. If you change it to 20, skills can be advanced to legendary+5.

Also in .33f, there's a pair of bytes at 00786466 and 00786608. If you set both to 0, then the 10 skills per dwarf limit is removed.

I've found equivalant addresses for all the .33 releases. They're in the memory hacking subpages.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] ([[User talk:0x517A5D|talk]]{{!}}[[Special:Contributions/0x517A5D|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}

== Update of utilities ==

So how much longer do you suppose it might take to transition the utilities to 33f?--[[User:Heliopios|Heliopios]] 13:04, 19 December 2007 (EST)
:With the .ini method there isnt really a need to rebuild the utilities for 32f. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 15:25, 19 December 2007 (EST)

:And how exactly do you use memory.ini? I've created a new ini file (yes, it's a .ini, not a .ini.txt) and pasted everything under [code] tags for .33f, and lugged it into the dir. with the required executable (heal.exe in this case) but when I run it it still says it was built for .33e. Should I put it somewhere else? In any case, instructions for use are either inexistent or pretty well hidden here in the wiki.
:Cheers
[[User:N35t0r|N35t0r]] 21:45, 19 December 2007 (EST)

User talk:Rick

2007-12-20T02:45:47Z

N35t0r:

== Requests ==
Hey there. Thanks for writing reveal.exe. It's made my dwarves' lives so much easier!

Do you take requests?

And is this the right place to ask? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 20:32, 10 November 2007 (EST)

: Yes, and yes. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:49, 10 November 2007 (EST)

::Excellent! Now, I don't know how many people would use it, but I'd love to see a utility that would allow me to choose the temperature/forest/shrub/surroundings/neighbours when starting out. I like to stick to the same sort of areas, but it can be a pain finding them on the map - if they exist at all. Problem is, I think most people take what they're given, region-wise... so I don't think it'd have much of an audience. What do you think? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 20:55, 10 November 2007 (EST)

:: Er, I haven't just described startpoints.exe, have I? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 21:01, 10 November 2007 (EST)

::Well, if you're not averse to requests... A utility to activate the subterranean flag on indoor areas would be awesome for those of us who'd like to build surface castles in cold/freezing terrain without our dwarves dying of frostbite. -[[User:EarthquakeDamage|EarthquakeDamage]] 22:45, 10 November 2007 (EST)

::I'd like a rock/gem/ore tool. Would be really neat. Especially the ore/gem one. Also, maybe water/magma creation tools if possible?--[[User:Spelguru|Spelguru]] 01:29, 11 November 2007 (EST)

::Something similar to the old skills.exe would be great! --[[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 11:44, 19 November 2007 (EST)

::What I'd like is some way to search for a particular tile on the map. Probably the easiest thing for you to code is to have reveal.exe have an option where it prints the map data to a file in some simple text format (Just a simple list of 'Z,X,Y "tile code"' would be sufficient. mapping what tiles have what value would be nice, but not necessary.) I want to answer the question "Is the raw material for the item the possessed dwarf is asking for somewhere on my map, and if so, where?" --[[User:Warnold|Warnold]] 23:08, 9 December 2007 (EST)

::I would like to request something that teleports items. --[[User:Demosthenes|Demosthenes]] 02:05, 16 December 2007 (EST)

::Is it possible for a utility to remove excess stone? (name and amount in command line) --[[User:Jackard|Jackard]] 07:35, 16 December 2007 (EST)

== Wild Praise ==
Thank you so much for your incredible work! Your applications add so much fun to the game! --[[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 13:56, 17 November 2007 (EST)

Astonishing response time for 33e! --[[User:Geofferic|Geofferic]] 01:04, 9 December 2007 (EST)

== In reply to ==
Your statement to me on my page, "Don't subject your opinion unto others. (Though I think you were just trying to be funny...) --Rick 03:54, 31 October 2007 (EDT)"

Of course I was. But some people have no real sense of humor.

Also, some people believe they can do things they tell others NOT to do. Your statement is a perfect example of this. You tell me not to subject others to MY opinion, but in doing so you are subjecting me to YOUR opinion. Oh yes, you are one of the VIPs in the DF community, because you wrote a couple utilities. So I suppose I should be humble in your presence, and bow to someone so great. I would do that, but when I bow, I do it facing AWAY from that person, and I drop my trousers at the same time. Still want me to bow to your greatness?

I read other contributions here that voice their opinions the same as I did. I wonder if you said the same thing to all of them as well? Tho since I was able to read the pages they wrote, you clearly did not delete their words as you did mine. And while other entries I made were either deleted or edited, as I expected them to be, since I am not a great wiki writer, you were the only one to send me a somewhat nasty note.

Think whatever you like of me, but at least I was contributing, and trying to give a few smiles along the way. Seems to me tho, that DF is fun, and it's wiki should be too. And, from other pages I read, others feel the same way I do. Maybe you should take a look around at some of their pages, and lighten up yourself a bit? Maybe trade with the elves for a tame blue jay, and drop it down your shorts. If that doesnt get a giggle out of you, maybe you should go join the undead at one of their ruins?

: Wow, way to blow up that up, I was just jesting. I think I'll leave your words here, [[User:Darknight|Darknight]]. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:25, 17 November 2007 (EST)

: Oh, and for the record, I did not remove your message, someone else did that. Check the page history. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:29, 17 November 2007 (EST)

== heal.exe bug? ==

Hmm... I've found that heal -hurt doesn't work on fire men, at least in 33b. It sets all their body parts to red, but the fire man just keeps wandering around and scaring my poor witless dwarves. I haven't found a living fire man yet in 33c so I can't check. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 06:59, 28 November 2007 (EST)

: Are firemen immune to pain? Hurt just nukes bodyparts, not kills creatures, most creatures who feel pain will die from that, but I guess ones who don't won't. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 12:08, 28 November 2007 (EST)

:: Just checked - yes they are. That'd explain it then, ta. [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 14:38, 28 November 2007 (EST)

== INI? ==

Does anyone see anything obviously wrong about this? I used various comparisons to come to these values (as well as what the hex fellow posted in the memory hacking section), and editing them as such into the reveal.exe allowed me to get that program to function, but the ini isn't reenabling the executables on its own:

<pre>
[address]
DWARF_FORTRESS=0x0089C414 ; correct
MENU_STATE=0x0124565C ; maybe
FOCUSED_CREATURE=0x00C39548 ; correct
CREATURE_VECTOR=0x01420A48 ; correct
MOUSE_X=0x008FF290 ; pretty sure should be 008FF288
MOUSE_Y=0x008FF294 ; pretty sure should be 008FF28C
MOUSE_Z=0x008FF298 ; pretty sure should be 008FF290
MAP_DATA=0x01462568 ; correct
MAP_X_COUNT=0x01462580 ; correct
MAP_Y_COUNT=0x01462584 ; correct
MAP_Z_COUNT=0x01462588 ; correct
STARTING_DWARF_COUNT=0x0078A54E ; wrong. 0078A554 (value actually is dword at 0078A555)
STARTING_POINT_COUNT=0x00789703 ; correct (value actually is word at 0078970A)

[offset]
MAP_DATA_DESIGNATION_OFFSET=0x0260 ; dunno
MAP_DATA_OCCUPANCY_OFFSET=0x660 ; dunno
CREATURE_NAME_OFFSET=0x000 ; yes
CREATURE_BODY_PART_HEALTH_VECTOR_OFFSET=0x308 ; probably
CREATURE_X_OFFSET=0x0094 ; probably
CREATURE_Y_OFFSET=0x0096 ; probably
CREATURE_Z_OFFSET=0x0098 ; probably
</pre>

[[User:Qalnor|Qalnor]] 14:05, 16 December 2007 (EST)

I commented the above. none of the corrections should affect reveal. I don't know what's going wrong. —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 19:53, 16 December 2007 (EST)

:: I made a few mistakes when documenting the existing data, which probably threw you guys off. My user page has been updated for 33f. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:41, 16 December 2007 (EST)

:: Thanks, to both of you. I'll have to go over what I was doing when I get home to try and see where I was going wrong. [[User:Qalnor|Qalnor]] 15:11, 17 December 2007 (EST)

== Possible adjuststart enhancement ==
Hi! Merry culturally-appropriate politically-correct generic holiday!

I have found some interesting addresses that work well with adjuststart.

In .33f, the byte at 0078654B holds a constant that is the upper limit that starting skills can be advanced to. It is normally 5 (proficient). If you change it to 15, skills can be advanced to legendary. If you change it to 20, skills can be advanced to legendary+5.

Also in .33f, there's a pair of bytes at 00786466 and 00786608. If you set both to 0, then the 10 skills per dwarf limit is removed.

I've found equivalant addresses for all the .33 releases. They're in the memory hacking subpages.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] ([[User talk:0x517A5D|talk]]{{!}}[[Special:Contributions/0x517A5D|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}

== Update of utilities ==

So how much longer do you suppose it might take to transition the utilities to 33f?--[[User:Heliopios|Heliopios]] 13:04, 19 December 2007 (EST)
:With the .ini method there isnt really a need to rebuild the utilities for 32f. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 15:25, 19 December 2007 (EST)
:And how exactly do you use memory.ini? I've created a new ini file (yes, it's a .ini, not a .ini.txt) and pasted everything under [code] tags for .33f, and lugged it into the dir. with the required executable (heal.exe in this case) but when I run it it still says it was built for .33e. Should I put it somewhere else? In any case, instructions for use are either inexistent or pretty well hidden here in the wiki.
Cheers
[[User:N35t0r|N35t0r]] 21:45, 19 December 2007 (EST)

40d:Lay pewter

2007-12-09T04:09:52Z

N35t0r:

{{Alloy3|name=Lay pewter|color=#088|bgcolor=#CCC|color1=#CCC|color2=#880|color3=#888
|uses=
* [[Metalsmith's forge|Metal crafting]]
|recipe=
* 2 [[tin]] [[bar]]s
* 1 [[copper]] [[bar]]
* 1 [[lead]] [[bar]]
|properties=
* [[Material value]] 3
}}

[[category:metals]]

'''Lay pewter''' is not a naturally occurring [[Metal]]. It cannot be smelted from an [[ore]]. Instead, '''Lay pewter''' is created at a [[Smelter]] using the following recipe:
*2x [[Tin]] + [[Copper]] + [[Lead]]

Lay pewter has a base value of 3, which makes it a preferable material for creating objects of wealth, since all of it's ingredients have a value of only 2. Lay Pewter is [[Trifle Pewter]] that has been cut with [[Lead]]. It is less valuable, but you get more of it.

40d Talk:Computing

2007-12-09T01:28:09Z

N35t0r: /* Anthills */

I created this page because I think it's a very interesting part of the game for advanced players. I'm not at all familiar with creating wiki pages, so if someone else who was familiar with the concepts could write a section or two themselves, that would be grand. Right now I think it's been proven possible to create logical input and output gates using fluid dynamics, axles and gears, and even the movements of dwarves utilizing pressure plates.

It was on the 4th of Galena 1097 that the Fortress 'The Net of Skies' became self-aware. Panicked mechanics attempted to disengage the mechanisms, but the fortress interpreted this as an attack and designated all Dwarves as hostile... --[[User:WyldKarde|WyldKarde]] 13:17, 23 November 2007 (EST)

:A suggested component: The one-use lever.

ó _X_ ___ / = ramp X = door
#" ¯ /### " = bridge
#########

:The lever has a Pull The Lever repeat job on it. The door only opens when access is required. Upon being pulled, the lever opens the bridge and drops the dwarf that pulled it. -- [[User:Zaratustra|Zaratustra]] 14:56, 23 November 2007 (EST)
:Problem detected: the lever doesn't obstruct, so the dwarf can be left hanging on the lever's tile.

I think we should strive to include an example of an NAND gate and/or a NOR gate for each style since that's the bare minimum for operation.--[[User:AlBorland|AlBorland]] 22:09, 23 November 2007 (EST)

== Machine logic ==

The machine logic gates as they stand are incomplete. The inputs are levers, but the outputs are machine components. In order to connect a machine logic gate to another gate, the machine signal needs to be converted back into a lever signal. The only way I can see to do that is with a water tank, a pump, and a pressure plate. --[[User:Peristarkawan|Peristarkawan]] 12:38, 28 November 2007 (EST)

== Anthills ==

Kudos to whoever mods ants to be trainable for borg machines... Hex anyone? :D [[User:N35t0r|N35t0r]] 20:28, 8 December 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Computing

2007-12-09T01:27:52Z

N35t0r: