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		<title>40d:Stockpile</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-04T20:48:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Rahler: Removed outdated comment about a blank menu, added note that only one stockpile can take from any given other stockpile.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{old|0.23.130.23a|, the 2D version}}&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Stockpiles''' are where [[dwarves]] will store items of various types. Dwarves with the &amp;quot;[[hauling]]&amp;quot; job on will seek out items that aren't already on a stockpile that accepts them and carry them to the appropriate stockpile. It's important to place your stockpiles carefully to minimize the amount of time spent carrying items to and from them. Items in a stockpile may be stored in [[bag]]s, [[barrel]]s or [[bin]]s (see [[Using bins and barrels]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Allocating stockpiles == &lt;br /&gt;
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To allocate an area as a stockpile, use the {{key|p}} menu. The right-hand menu pane will list all the stockpile categories, and the appropriate key to press to begin allocating that type. Allocating an area works exactly the same as designating an area. Press {{k|Enter}} to specify the first corner of the stockpile, use the primary movement keys to move the cursor to the opposite corner, and press {{k|Enter}} again. This will create a stockpile of the chosen type that occupies the area between the two corners specified. If the chosen area has parts that cannot be made into a stockpile, like a [[wall]], a [[workshop]], or an already existing stockpile, a stockpile will be created but they will not be part of it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Removing a stockpile works exactly the same, but choose {{key|x}}: Remove Designation. This will unallocate the area specified. It is possible to create a single stockpile with a shape other than a rectangle by using the Remove Designation tool to remove only part of the stockpile.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Using stockpiles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Once a stockpile has been allocated, dwarves will automatically move items to the stockpile when they are available, and as long as the stockpile has available space. Note that the dwarves will place the item into the empty spot that is nearest to the item, ''not counting any obstructions''. Additional behaviour also includes the fact that dwarves will stockpile the ''newest'' item first, which may not necessarily be the nearest item to the stockpile.&lt;br /&gt;
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When dwarves need an item for a particular task, they will head to the nearest (again, not counting any obstructions that may lie in the way) item of the correct type, regardless of whether it is in a stockpile or not. Apart from some exceptions, items do not have to be stockpiled at all. Players are generally advised to avoid stone stockpiles, because stone [[hauling]] jobs take an extreme amount of time for unskilled dwarves, due to the weight hauled.&lt;br /&gt;
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One method to ensure a workshop has raw material on hand is to place a small stockpile next to the workshop. This will speed up production as the crafter in question only has to take a few steps to obtain the material. It also has a useful side-effect, in that as soon as the crafter picks up the piece of material, the stockpile will issue a new task to fetch another piece of that material. Because that crafter is busy, that hauling job will be taken by another [[dwarf]]. This speeds up a queue of jobs, as other dwarfs perform the time-consuming distant haul whilst the crafter actually makes the items.&lt;br /&gt;
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It's not necessary to place stockpiles for all types of objects. If no storage is available for a certain item type, dwarves will seek out items wherever they might lie as mentioned earlier. This can be advantageous -- if you don't have a stockpile for [[gem]]s, your [[jeweler]] will go pick up fresh gems without waiting for them to be carried to a pile first. However, this also means your jeweler has to spend a lot of time fetching the gems. If you have enough haulers available, it's generally more advantageous to designate stockpiles than not. Also remember that your workshops will get [[clutter]]ed and suffer production slowdowns if you let items pile up in them, so it's important to regularly clear out workshops when they get cluttered. This can be done either by having a stockpile available so that haulers will remove the items or by removing and rebuilding the workshop, which will empty its contents onto the ground.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Take from a stockpile ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Another feature of stockpiles, currently in a limited form, allows you to tell dwarves to fill one stockpile not only with unstockpiled items, but also those located on another stockpile that accepts those items. To specify such a flow, use the {{key|q}} menu, and highlight the ''destination'' stockpile. Press {{key|t}}, and, using the cursor, highlight another stockpile and press [Enter]. Your chosen stockpile will now list the stockpile it will take from. This will cause items in the second stockpile to be hauled to the first stockpile. To stop first stockpile taking items from second use {{K|q}} menu on first, higlight the unneeded stockpile in the list using {{K|+}} and {{K|-}} and press {{K|d}}'''elete Selected'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Taking from a stockpile can only happen one way. Telling stockpile #4 to take from #13 will stop #13 from taking from #4. This is probably a good thing, otherwise your dwarves will continuously move items between the two stockpiles. To be truly evil though, you can introduce a third stockpile, at which point #4 taking from #12, #12 taking from #13, and #13 taking from #4, is perfectly valid.  You can also only have one stockpile taking from any given other stockpile. Telling stockpile #1 to take from #3, then #2 to take from #3 will cause only #2 to take from #3.&lt;br /&gt;
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One stockpile can be set to take from any number of other stockpiles, so in theory it is possible to construct supply chains of material. For example, you may have a small stone stockpile next to some mason's workshops, and a much bigger 'central' stone stockpile. Using this feature, you can get your dwarves to keep the workshop stockpile filled from the central stockpile.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Stockpile categories ==&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Ammo]]===&lt;br /&gt;
This stockpile contains ammo for all forms of ammunition-requiring weaponry is stored here. It can use [[bin]]s to consolidate up to 100 units of ammo. Since the only ammo dwarves can currently use is [[crossbow]] [[bolt]]s, it might be wise to disallow [[arrow]]s and blowdarts.&lt;br /&gt;
===[[Animal]]===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Animals]] stored in [[cage]]s that are not affixed to a location will be stored in these stockpiles. [[Trap]]s used for capturing wild animals and empty [[cage]]s are also stored here.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Armor]]===&lt;br /&gt;
Armor of all types is stored here. This kind of stockpile can use bins to consolidate up to 10 items. There is no preference for specific body parts. All types of armor can be stored in [[bin]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Bar]]/[[Block]]===&lt;br /&gt;
Bars of smelted [[metal]] and blocks of cut stone are kept here after being processed by the [[smelter]] and [[mason's workshop]]s, before being used for other purposes. Weirdly, [[ash]]es, [[potash]], [[soap]], [[charcoal]], and [[coke]] from the [[wood furnace]], [[ashery]], [[alchemist's laboratory]] and smelter will also be stored here. Like with all stockpiles, this can be changed to allow for specific blocks and bars to be stored with custom settings. [[Bin]]s can be used to consolidate up to 10 bars and blocks.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Cloth]]===&lt;br /&gt;
Woven cloth and [[thread]] from the [[loom]] is stored here. [[Bin]]s can be used to consolidate up to 10 items.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Coins]]===&lt;br /&gt;
Minted coins are kept here. Bins can be used to consolidate up to 3000 coins, which is equivalent to six new coins stacks.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Finished Goods]]===&lt;br /&gt;
Finished goods created by the [[craftsdwarf's workshop]], as well as the [[clothier's shop]] and the [[leather works]], are placed here before being used in trade or other uses. This type of stockpile can use [[bin]]s to consolidate up to 25 items.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== [[Food]] ===&lt;br /&gt;
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As one would assume based on the name, food is stored here. Unexpectedly, [[lye]], [[giant desert scorpion]] venom, bags of [[dye]], and [[liquid fire]] are as well. Raw [[fish]] is brought here before being processed by [[fishery]] and turned into edible [[meat]]. Drinks are always stored in [[barrel]]s. Seeds can be stored in [[bag]]s, whereas other food items can be stored in [[barrel]]s (up to 10 items per barrel, but note that&lt;br /&gt;
the stack +Cow meat roast [8]+ would count as eight items.) &lt;br /&gt;
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Note that [[prepared meal]]s in stacks larger than ten (☼Dwarven Beer Roast [200]☼ is possible) will not fit in a barrel, but will not rot once placed in a food stockpile, and still only take up one space. To free up barrels, you may decide to have separate prepared food stockpiles that do not accept barrels. If you cook larger meals, this shouldn't be a problem.&lt;br /&gt;
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Food stockpiles should in most cases be specified as things like [[seed]] stockpiles or meat stockpiles or unprepared fish stockpiles; there are simply too many things that go in them.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Furniture]] Storage===&lt;br /&gt;
Completed items from the [[carpenter's workshop]], mason's workshop, and [[mechanic's workshop]] will be stored here, along with furniture created from other shops, until placed or used in another building. Since this is a very broad category, like food, generally more specific stockpiles should be created.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Gem]]===&lt;br /&gt;
This stockpile stores gems and raw [[glass]], both cut and uncut, before being used in a construction. It can use [[bin]]s to consolidate up to 10 gems.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Graveyard]]===&lt;br /&gt;
Dead dwarves and [[pet]]s that have no burial location will be placed here. If placed indoors, decaying bodies will generate [[miasma]], but [[bone]]s will not removed at the end of the season.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;Are dwarf and pet bones removed at the end of the season ever? --[[User:Savok|Savok]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Leather]]===&lt;br /&gt;
Leather, which is produced at a [[Tanner's shop]], will be kept here. Like most stockpiles, it can use [[bin]]s to consolidate up to 10 items.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[refuse stockpile|Refuse]]===&lt;br /&gt;
Since dwarves hate rot because of the miasma it spreads when in an enclosed place like a [[cave]], any garbage item that can rot will be stored in a refuse stockpile. Many players prefer to place this stockpile outside their cavern, usually a small distance from the entrance. If placed indoors, decaying items will generate miasma, which will spread through your fortress and generate a small unhappy thought in any dwarf passing through it. For this reason it is sensible to build [[door]]s to all of your indoor refuse stockpiles - the miasma won't spread through a closed door so only dwarves with business in the room will be bothered by the rot. An alternative to this is to dig [[channel]]s down from the surface, creating an outside area inside your fortress. You can place your refuse stockpile here and whilst it will be in your fort it will technically be outside and won't generate miasma. &lt;br /&gt;
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Bones and [[shell]]s are also stored here, whether they be from defeated enemies or raw food processing. Outdoor refuse stockpiles are emptied at the turn of the seasons, but indoor refuse stockpiles are not, so you may wish to make an indoor refuse stockpile that takes bones from the outdoor stockpile.&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that a refuse stockpile is not the same as a [[Activity_zone#Garbage_Dump|garbage dump]]. A garbage dump is only for things manually marked to be dumped. Additionally, refuse types specifically marked as '''Dwarves Dump '''''refuse type'' in {{k|o}}-{{k|r}} will be hauled to the garbage dump instead of the refuse stockpile.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Stone]]===&lt;br /&gt;
Rough stone will be stored here, as well as ore. Given the extreme abundance of stone, it is very likely for this stockpile to fill up quickly, if the hauling is ever completed, meaning that the player may want to create several stone stockpiles. Making a gigantic stone stockpile is not a good idea, because it will take forever to fill up. It is a good idea to position these stockpiles close to your mason's workshop or your mechanic's workshop. An alternative option is to merely make a small stockpile near your masons and leave stones where they lie, eliminating dwarves running around carrying stone all the time. This can have the effect of blocking expandable types of construction if there is not enough space around to move the stones into. Some dwarves regard the existence of stone stockpiles as a sign of divine displeasure, cursing dwarves to scurry around the fortress carrying rock to and fro for all eternity. To avoid stone hauling when you don't want it, set the dwarves to ignore minerals in {{key|o}}rders and options.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Weapon]]s===&lt;br /&gt;
Weapons of all types are stored here by default, including the weapons that dwarves do not use and trap components. [[Bin]]s can be used to consolidate up to 10 weapons of any type.&lt;br /&gt;
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===[[Wood]]===&lt;br /&gt;
Chopped trees are brought to the wood stockpile before being used by the carpenter's workshop. Because wood takes a long time to haul down from the surface, it should be rather large. It is a good idea to position this stockpile close to your carpenter's workshop.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Custom stockpiles ===&lt;br /&gt;
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With custom stockpiles you can change which types of materials, goods, etc, can be stored in that pile. Any types of things can be mixed, so you could have a stockpile that will hold raw [[turtle]], [[mechanism]]s and all stone types apart from [[onyx]] if you wanted. Highlighting a stockpile with {{key|q}}, then pressing {{key|s}} will allow you to adjust the stockpile settings or in the {{key|p}} menu you can press {{key|t}} to adjust a custom stockpiles settings before placing it with {{key|c}}. Note that many sub-menus consist of several pages ( the 'other' menu of stone e.g. consists of several pages while 'metal [[ore]]s' and 'economic' consist of only one ).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Stockpile Settings ==&lt;br /&gt;
The '''Stockpile Settings''' screen is weird to use. In the first column are the major categories. In the second column there may or may not be subcategories. In the third you will see the individual items. The second and third columns are only visible when a category is enabled and selected.&lt;br /&gt;
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You navigate this screen with {{key|+}} and {{key|-}}, and left and right on the arrow keys. {{key|e}} and {{key|d}} are used to enable and disable the categories. {{key|a}} and {{key|b}} are used to allow or disallow all the subcategories. {{key|p}} and {{key|f}} will permit of forbid individual subcategories. These six keys work no matter which column you have selected, though the last 4 will not always be available.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;{{key|Enter}} will toggle individual item types.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Some categories will have a special extra type of item(s) that can be toggled with {{key|u}} and sometimes {{key|j}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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{| border=&amp;quot;1&amp;quot; cellpadding=&amp;quot;4&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|+ &lt;br /&gt;
! Categories&lt;br /&gt;
! Item type&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Animals &lt;br /&gt;
| Empty cages and Empty animal traps&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Food  &lt;br /&gt;
| Prepared food&lt;br /&gt;
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| Furniture &lt;br /&gt;
| Sand bag&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Weapons &lt;br /&gt;
| Local and Foreign&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Armor &lt;br /&gt;
| Local and Foreign&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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If you disable an item or items that are already sitting in a stockpile then they become loose items and your dwarves will move them to a more suitable stockpile should one exist.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Uses for Custom Stockpiles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A custom stockpile is most useful for food, furniture, and bar/block stockpiles, to prevent your lye and venom sitting next to the [[kitchen]]s, your [[floodgate]]s and mechanisms near the [[room]]s that need [[statue]]s and doors, your stone blocks next to the forges, and your metal bars by the farms.&lt;br /&gt;
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One use for this is to have an outdoor stockpile that will accept all refuse except bone and shell, and then an indoor pile near to your craftsdwarf's workshop that will '''only''' accept these things. If you have set the option for dwarves to gather refuse from outside, the bones will be brought in for processing once all the meat has rotted off of any carcases outside. This means added risk to your dwarves if they try to gather refuse that is far from your gate, and a potentially large amount of useless hauling.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another effective use of custom stockpiles is Elven trading. Make a stockpile just for elf-safe trade goods: most categories where it's relevant have a 'materials' option.&lt;br /&gt;
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A highly efficient method is to have wood burning furnaces feeding into a '[[charcoal]] only' bar/blocks stockpile, which in turn is near the smelting furnaces and forges. Bonus points if you also place a small wood stockpile near the wood furnaces.&lt;br /&gt;
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Other good uses:&lt;br /&gt;
* Planter's stock: [[seed]]s and [[potash]]. (If your [[ashery]] is nearby, include ashes and lye. Remember to turn off all barrel usage on seedpiles. Seeds are best used in bags, so it's important to also turn off seeds in ALL other food stockpiles.)&lt;br /&gt;
* Smelter stock: [[ore]]s and [[economic stone]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Sandpile: [[sand]] bags.&lt;br /&gt;
* Clothes Plus: a cloth stockpile that also includes [[dye]]s. (Dyes normally count as food.)&lt;br /&gt;
* Food Plus: a food stockpile that includes barrels. This spares your dwarves from carrying empty barrels to and from the furniture stores.&lt;br /&gt;
* Skins: a refuse stockpile limited to [[skin]]s, a bit like the bone &amp;amp; shell stockpile above. Place near the tannery. &lt;br /&gt;
* Brewer's stock: [[List of crops|brewable plants]]. &lt;br /&gt;
* Refreshment stand: Since dwarves drink twice as often as they eat, having several small food stockpiles that only accept [[drink]]s scattered strategically through your fort can minimise [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoko smoko breaks].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Stockpiles]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Items]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Magma_forge&amp;diff=23236</id>
		<title>40d:Magma forge</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-03T01:26:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Rahler: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Workshop|name=Magma forge|key=v|job=Weaponsmith, Armorsmith, Metalsmith, Crossbow-making&lt;br /&gt;
|construction=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Stone]] or [[block|Stone blocks]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bar]]s{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Anvil]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Weaponsmith|Weaponsmithing]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Armorsmith|Armoring]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Metalsmith|Blacksmithing]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Metal crafter|Metalcrafting]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Crossbow-making]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Metal|Metal bars]]&lt;br /&gt;
|production=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Crafts]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Goblet]]s (x3 from one metal bar)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Toy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Instrument]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Flask]]s (x3 from one metal bar)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Coins]] (x500 from one metal bar)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stud|Studding]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Furniture]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
A '''magma forge''' is a [[metalsmith's forge]] which does not require [[charcoal]] or other [[fuel]], as long as it is positioned over [[magma]]. In order to function, the forge must be exactly one Z-level above a lava or magma square. Magma forges cannot draw from many Z-levels below themselves as [[Well|wells]] can. It must be built of [[fire-safe materials]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A magma forge will not function unless at least one of its eight edge squares hang over a channel which has magma at a depth of 4/7 or more. [[Dwarves]] will not roast when working inside a magma forge, unlike the unlucky soldiers you station right next to the vent.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Workshops}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Magma_forge&amp;diff=26463</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Magma forge</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-01T20:48:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Rahler: Blocks/bars as building material&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Operational Magma Depth ==&lt;br /&gt;
More specifically, &amp;quot;nearby&amp;quot; means that at least one of its eight edge squares hangs over a hole which has magma at a depth of at least 4 on the level below. &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Verify - I've got a magma forge at the moment over 3 lava squares and it's not working, while the smelter next to it is. I think the building has to have at least one of those red circles over lava. Juckto 15:48, 14 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sorry for moving this comment off the actual page, but this sort of thing is supposed to go in Talk. Anyway, I'm 100% certain of this information. &lt;br /&gt;
::Firstly, you're wrong about the &amp;quot;building has to have at least one red circle over lava&amp;quot; bit; the game explicitly says &amp;quot;At least one of the eight boundary squares must be over lava&amp;quot; when a magma building is not operational, and I've built a working magma forge whose upper-left corner is the only part over magma.&lt;br /&gt;
::Secondly, I built a tube to get magma over to my mineral deposits, on the other side of the map. I built a bunch of smelters and a couple of magma forges over it, and noticed that eventually they started flickering on and off. When I looked underneath, I saw that the entire tube in the area was at a depth of three or four, and the depths were shifting around like they do in water. The workshops only turned on when the depth under their open square was four.&lt;br /&gt;
::It's possible that if a magma workshop has more than one open area, the depth required to operate it is reduced. I wouldn't know. [[User:Tacroy|Tacroy]] 18:55, 14 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Juckto, make sure the building is built over a channel square with lava in it, there actually needs to be a hole in the ground for the forges to operate. I didn't realise this at first and had to reassemble my workshops after some digging. [[User:Jimphraxia|Jimphraxia]] 12:17, 28 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Best position for channel===&lt;br /&gt;
Am I right that if I build the channel where the darker X's are going to be then equipment will cover up the hole in the ground preventing Magma Men etc from coming into the workshop?[[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 00:55, 23 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I've been trying this and no nasty things have popped up yet. [[User:Mingebag|Mingebag]] 01:07, 26 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::My advice concerning bad stuff is to, on embark, just spend the 10 points to buy a nickle bar and dig into the lava in such a way that you have a 1 tile wide chokepoint, then setup some vertical bars and let the magma run through, using this strategy I've often ended up with smelters running before I grab an anvil from the first caravan.--[[User:Stalinbulldog|Stalinbulldog]] 04:31, 26 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Magma only? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Out of curiousity, does ''lava'' work as well with the ''magma'' forge? As magma turns to lava once exposed to the outside, I wonder if the magma forge might still recognise it as compatible. This might explain why juckto above did not get it to work. --[[User:Nexii Malthus|Nexii Malthus]] 19:04, 8 March 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:ive always built my magma buildings up on the surface(and thus over lava) and they work just fine --[[User:Chariot|Chariot]] 06:53, 9 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::lava = magma above ground level. it's the same stuff.[[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 00:53, 23 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Z-levels? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I was just reading the entry because I'm getting ready to set up my first magma forge. However, I'm not clear (and the article is also unclear) as to whether these can be built many Z-levels above magma, or if they have to be exactly 1 Z-level above the magma channel. For instance, I have a nice rock outcropping above a volcano on my map. Can I build a magma forge in there (effectively 2 Z-levels above the actual magma) as long as I have 'open space'?&lt;br /&gt;
I mean, does it work like a well, where no matter how high above the water you are, you can get to it as long as there's a chute? --[[User:Vix0r|Vix0r]] 22:34, 19 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm 99% sure you to have the forge the next z-level up from the magma. I imagine the forge is much more like a screw pump or a waterwheel than a well but can't say I've really tried the skyscraper forge method. If you build the forge and the furnace turns red, then the magma is fueling the forge, if not then something is preventing it. --[[User:Kyace|Kyace]] 22:58, 19 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::It appears that magma forges ''are'' more like screw pumps than wells. What a disappointment. :| --[[User:Vix0r|Vix0r]] 00:14, 20 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I'm not sure what the official policy for the wiki, but it might be simpler to merely edit the well article with &amp;quot;Wells are currently{{version|0.27.176.38c}} the only construction able to access materials more than one z-level below&amp;quot;. --[[User:Kyace|Kyace]] 02:49, 20 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::In the interests of helping players curious/confused about magma forges themselves, I think this is a better move. Someone curious about how magma forges work isn't likely to check the wells page. --[[User:Vix0r|Vix0r]] 16:49, 20 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blocks/bars as building material ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It says &amp;quot;verify&amp;quot; for blocks and metal blocks as a building materials for magma forges, and as I was building one anyways I figured I'd check.  I built mine out of a cinnabar block, and various metal bars were also in the list of usable materials for construction.  (v 0.28.181.40d)&lt;br /&gt;
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