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40d Talk:Water

2008-10-20T20:28:56Z

Raumkraut: /* Wrong Information on Page? */

I dug into a Murky pool, all 7's, drained out 8 squares of 7's into my reservoir to irrigate my farm, then closed the floodgate up. The murky pool was mixed 6's and 7's. After winter, it froze over, and in Spring melted back into all 7's again. Apparently they can refill themselves. It did snow on top of the pool. Perhaps the snow melted and got it wet? --[[User:Tracker|Tracker]] 20:36, 30 October 2007 (EDT)
:As far as I know, if there's any water in the pool then they will freeze into ice walls. When the ice wall melts, it will always melt to depth 7, irrespective of how much water the ice was originally formed from. It is unaffected by snowfall, so if your murky pool ever completely dries out, it will never refill, even if you get lots of rain or snow. --[[User:Morlark|Morlark]]

Do fish really flop around after you drain a pool? This didn't happen for me. --[[User:Turgid Bolk|Turgid Bolk]] 17:08, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

Does anyone know what the water output of a brook is? As in, does it fill a 1-width channel any faster or slower than a river?--[[User:Xazak|Xazak]] 18:29, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

Has anyone else seen stagnant water spontaneously appear beside a still? I had it happen twice, I swear that the still is leaking. --[[User:Krenn|Krenn]] 02:58, 14 November 2007 (EST)
:Likely, a dwarf for some reason dumped out a bucket or waterskin nearby. It tends to happen when you get job cancellations while filling a well or taking water to a prisoner or injured dwarf.--[[User:Knivesu|Knivesu]] 06:58, 3 December 2007 (EST)

== Evaporation ==

I notice that evaporation isn't covered here or in [[Magma]], and I think it might be a useful topic. My observation is that depth 1 fluids can evaporate if left alone. This means that you can get rid of arbitrary amounts of fluid simply by spreading it out enough, or by using a multiple-floodgate lock system to meter measured quantities of fluid out over a chamber floor. In my experience, evaporated water leaves behind mud, whereas evaporated magma leaves behind nothing. --[[User:Doctorlucky|Doctorlucky]] 16:45, 19 March 2008 (EDT)

:Magma... evaporates? Could be true – this is DF, after all. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 14:38, 21 March 2008 (EDT)

== Bend bugs ==

Should we add a section about the u-bend bug?

I've just managed to make a V-bend that can absorb infinite water as well as the U-bend that creates it. Basically I used ramps to create a dip in a pipe trying to make a u-bend, and when I poured a full murky pool into it I ended up with only the bottom three squares full of water. I then got a real u-bend going from another pond and as much as it poured into a pool the v-bend absorbed it all.

Can anyone reproduce? —Preceding [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] ([[User talk:Ikkonoishi|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Ikkonoishi|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}

The u-bend is notorious, but never heard or ran into a "v-bend" before.
A (side) diagram of your v-bend would be helpful in reproducing.
As for pages, I'd say no, since they shouldn't end up being around a long time, but who knows. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 18:13, 1 February 2008 (EST)
: I was going to do one but couldn't figure out how to make the ramps. I'll just use \.

Water went in. --> ~.~########
~.~.~### <--- No water out
####\~# /##
#####\~/###
###########

Even when I brought infinite water from a normal u-bend two levels above it it would not flow through to fill the pond again until I capped the holes. Using periods to break up the ~ so I don't have to use nowiki tags. --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 18:58, 1 February 2008 (EST)

The map http://mkv25.net/dfma/poi-3138-emptypool --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 19:02, 1 February 2008 (EST)

== Stagnant Water ==

What marks water as stagnant? I know bucket water dumped on the ground is sometimes stagnant, but it's not defined here and I'm not sure what does it.--[[User:Dadamh|Dadamh]] 13:30, 29 May 2008 (EDT)
:Ice that melts becomes stagnant water. So if you mine out ice in an underground area, it will immediately melt into stagnant water. [[User:Tachyon|Tachyon]] 13:56, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

::But I've had water in a bucket turn Stagnant. What is your responce Poindexter?! [[User:Hoborobo|Hoborobo]] 16:32, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

== Map limits ==

Does water fall off the edge of the map ? Is it possible to actually make it flow out the map like rivers do ? Is it possible underground, several z-levels below he surface ? --[[User:Cptnemo01|Cptnemo01]] 03:51, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

: I would think so, but bear in mind that you can not construct or dig near the edge of the map, making it impossible to channel out water (however, you could make a big surface delta). --[[User:Aykavil|Aykavil]] 08:07, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

== underground water manipulation ==

I am utterly lost when it comes to making underground channels/resovuoirs/wells or any other aquatic contraption beneath the earth. I've looked through both the wiki and the bay12 forums and all I've found are specialized articles for people who already know the basics. so can someone point me in the right direction? or even make a faq, if you're bored? I'd appreciate it.
--[[User:Splendiferous|Splendiferous]] 04:54, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

:Perhaps you have something a little more specific? Asking for all three is rather big and vague. --[[User:Borninshadow|borninshadow]] 22:32, 19 August 2008 (GMT -8)

== Finding Water ==

If there is no water visible on the map, how can I track it down? There's a small glacier away from my mountain, but I don't see an easy way to melt it. Other than that, nothing shows up on the map underground. --[[User:Aegeus | Aegeus]] (21:09, 20 September 2008)

: I'll take a guess and say [[exploratory mining]] is the only way to go. Only one that I know of at least. --[[User:MagicGuigz|MagicGuigz]] 23:19, 4 October 2008 (EDT)

== Wrong Information on Page? ==

The salt water section states:

"If a site contains saltwater (there will be a warning before embarkation), then all the naturally occurring water in that site will be salt water; including ponds, rivers and aquifers."

However, I have made wells from aquifers before on a map that was 1/4 tropical ocean and my dwarves drank from it. I think this information might be wrong. (Edit: I did not use a pump at all. I just channeled out above an aquifer and let the area below fill up, and then created wells over top of it). {{unsigned|frewfrux}}

:According to a [[Talk:Well#Salt_Water|comment]] on the [[well]] [[Talk:Well|talk page]], it may in fact be the well that somehow manages to desalinate the water! Check to see if a zone drawn over the aquifier can be marked as a water source. If not, then this is most certainly a feature of wells which should be noted! --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 16:28, 20 October 2008 (EDT)

40d:Water

2008-10-20T19:07:10Z

Raumkraut: /* Salt Water */

'''Water''' is a fluid found all over the world. It [[flow]]s from mountain springs, forming the world's [[ocean]]s, [[lake]]s, [[river]]s, and [[brook]]s. Water falls as [[rain]] and [[snow]], and freezes into [[ice]]. Water is home to [[aquatic creatures]]. Most creatures can [[Swimmer|swim]] in deep water, and like all fluids, air-breathing creatures can [[Swimmer#Drowning|drown]] in it. Water comes in two varieties: '''freshwater''', which makes up almost all inland water, and '''saltwater''', which fills the seas; these are home to different aquatic creatures. If dwarves do not drink they will become dehydrated(thirsty) and if they do not quench that thirst then they will eventually die. Injured dwarves will only drink freshwater, though normally dwarves prefer their [[Alcohol|booze]].

In addition, water can be ''stagnant'' or ''[[Murky pool|murky]]''. This may cause dwarves to have unhappy [[thought]]s if they drink from it.

When water comes into contact with creatures and objects, they become "[[Contaminant|contaminated]]" with it. [[Soil]] and [[stone]] becomes [[damp]] or [[mud]]dy, which can be used for [[Agriculture|farming]].

Water is displayed with the symbols {{Tile|≈|#008|#999}} and {{Tile|~|#008|#999}}, sometimes colored different blues, white, brown, or red to show ripples, [[mud]] (in the case of a brook), [[blood]] and [[flow]]. (The game can be [[Technical_tricks#The_look_of_the_game|configured]] to show the depth instead). Dark-colored water symbols indicate the water is one [[Z-level]] below the camera level. Water has 7 depth levels per tile, with 1 being perhaps ankle-deep, and 7 filling the tile completely. [[Dwarf|Dwarves]] and other [[humanoid]]s can walk through water up to depth 4. At 4 they can choose to walk or swim, any deeper and they must swim to pass through the tile. Elves drown only in 7/7 water, and wade in 6/7.

Every material sinks in water.{{version|0.27.176.38c}}

The [[Map tile|tiles]] above [[brook]]s are treated as [[floor]] tiles. They are passable to creatures, and objects do not fall into them.

==Water Flows==
Water above a depth of 1 will tend to flow towards any adjacent tiles, and can move diagonally, the depth will spread out evenly so a tile of 7/7 water will become seven 1/7 tiles, or if there are only two it can expand to it will become two 2/7 and a third 3/7 though the 3/7 will move around. Water can be stopped by most solid tiles. These include[[wall]]s and [[building]]s, plus closed [[floodgate]]s, [[door]]s, [[hatch]]es. Exceptions are [[grate]]s and [[bars]] which are specifically designed to allow liquids through. [[Waterfall]]s occur when water has the opportunity to fall through open space. Waterfalls will continue falling straight down until hitting either [[floor]] or another body of water.

== Water in Fortress Mode ==

In addition to drinking, pools and rivers can be used for [[fishing]]. To specify a pool of water as a water source, fishing zone, or [[pond]], you need to create [[activity zone]]s at the level above the water. The "level above the water" is the level at which the surface of the water is at foot-level instead of ceiling level. Water can be [[bridge]]d, and can also be used to make a [[moat]].

Water can be moved by [[digging]] channels or tunnels, using [[bucket]]s, or by constructing a [[screw pump]]. Dwarves will use buckets to fill a [[pond]]. [[Screw pump]]s (operated by dwarf or [[Power| machine power]]) can move water vertically and horizontally. Transferring water down channels/holes to lower levels can be hazardous due to [[water pressure]].

[[Cave lake|Lakes]] and [[murky pool]]s can be drained by digging into the side of them. Rivers can also be redirected in this manner. It is only possible to dig directly up into a water-filled tile using stairs or a ramp. Fish and other aquatic creatures will stay in the water as it moves, but may end up on the ground if the water becomes too shallow. Drained lakes that are [[outside]] are filled by melting ice and snow, but not by rain. Murky pools, once drained, can be refilled by rainwater, allowing for "rain barrel" systems of supplying your fortress with water.

Tiles adjacent to a water-filled tile are labeled "damp" and flash the water symbol when accessing the {{k|d}}esignations menu. When a miner discovers a damp tile, he cancels the mining designation, the game pauses, and the camera centers on the tile. This happens for every damp tile discovered, and each must be designated again before a miner will dig it out.{{version|0.27.176.38c}} Digging under a water-filled tile does not actually drain it, even though you receive multiple warnings about damp tiles. If a tile already appears to be damp when it is designated, no warning will be given.

Somebody who falls into water, for example, a [[kobold]] thief, will then have a "water covering" on nearly every part of their anatomy. This is listed under {{k|v}},{{k|i}}nventory and is shown in green.

[[Water wheel]]s can be used to generate mechanical power from flows.

The water in a tile can be destroyed by closing a [[floodgate]] or [[door]] on it (via a [[lever]]), by lowering a [[bridge]] onto it, or by [[evaporation]]. Thus water mass is not conserved and it is possible to run out of water on maps without an infinite source(such as an [[ocean]], [[river]] or [[aquifer]]). It is also possible to get rid of excess water by letting it flow into a [[river]].

==Sourced Water==
'''Sourced water''' is a term referring to any water that will never run out (''i.e.'', water features you can see on the region map). These include "river sources" flowing into the map from the edge. It is possible to completely flood your fortress if you tap into these without building controls such as [[floodgate]]s.

==Water depth==
You can find out how deep water is by examining it with the loo{{k|k}} command, or by editing your init.dat file to display water as coloured numbers.

Water depth ranges from 0-7. The following is a qualitative description of how deep the water is relative to a dwarf.

<ol start="0">
<li>Not a true value (that is, you will never see it displayed) - there is no water on this tile.</li>
<li>A puddle. This is the maximum depth dwarves will build on.</li>
<li>Knee deep.</li>
<li>Waist deep.</li>
<li>Chest deep. Your dwarves will be colored blue to indicate they are underwater and have the option to swim. However dwarves prefer to walk instead of swim, and in 4/7 water they will wade regardless of swimming skill. dwarves never drown in 4/7 water. Also, a swimming creature can move through 4/7 water even if they are IMMOBILE_LAND.</li>
<li>Head height. Dwarves are now swimming (or drowning, as the case may be).</li>
<li>Over a dwarf's head.</li>
<li>The tile is full to the brim of water.</li>
</ol>

==Salt Water==
If a site contains saltwater (there will be a warning before embarkation), then ''all'' the naturally occurring water in that site will be salt water; including ponds, [[river|rivers]] and [[aquifer|aquifers]].

You can tell whether a particular area of water is salty or not by creating an [[activity zone]] around it. If 'water source' is not highlighted in the zone options, then it is saltwater, and thus undrinkable. Water may currently be desalinated by passing it through a [[Screw pump|screw pump]].
{{Water FAQ}}

[[category:Map_tiles]]
[[Category:Physics]]

40d:Screw pump

2008-10-20T19:04:34Z

Raumkraut: Removed duplicate desalinisation info

{{Machine_component|name=Screw pump|key=s|job=[[Pump operator]]
|construction=
* [[Enormous corkscrew]]
* [[Pipe]]
* [[Block]]
|construction_job=
* [[Architecture]]
* 1 of
** [[Carpentry]]
** [[Masonry]]
|power=Needs 10 power.
}}
A '''screw pump''' can lift [[water]] from below onto the same [[Z-level]] as the pump. It is two tiles by one tile in size, and it can be either manually operated by a [[dwarf]] with the [[pump operator]] job or by using [[gear assembly|gear assemblies]] connected to [[water wheel]]s and/or [[windmill]]s. The direction you want the water to travel must be chosen at the time of construction.

== Construction ==

Building a screw pump requires an [[enormous corkscrew]], a stone, wood, or glass block, and a [[pipe]] section. The light green X must be next to the water source and the dark green X is where the water exits the pump. Having specified the direction of travel, you must ensure that the source side of the pump is placed adjacent to and above (in the [[z-axis]]) a liquid. The screw pump will draw the liquid up from below, and distribute it out of the other side of the pump. Screw pumps are [[building]]s that can be removed to recover the materials.

== Notes ==

* The source of the pump must be directionally adjacent to "Open Space" that is directly above a filled pool of liquid. The adjacent space cannot be a floor, hatch, or wall suspended over water. Screw pumps can pump water through a grate or floor bars.
* In order to build pumps in a "hanging" state, as in the stacked screw pump example, the dark tile of the screw pump must be able to connect to a nearby machine; either already existing or designated to be built.
* The rear pump tile does not block creature movement. The front of the pump does block creature movement.
* The front pump tile blocks water flow. The rear of the pump does not block water flow.
* Dwarves must be able to access and stand on the rear tile of the pump in order to be able to operate the pump manually.
* Active mechanisms connected to the pump will automatically start the pump; to prevent this either restrict water flow using floodgates, or put in a [[gear assembly]] linked to a [[lever]] to disconnect [[power|motion]].
* Pumps can also be used in conjunction with a [[water wheel]] or a [[windmill]] to become self-powered.
* Pumps can not push water up additional Z-levels. That is, if you direct the output of a screw pump into a 1-square space surrounded by walls, the water will not "overflow" the walls.
* Consequently, a pump will refuse to move water if the level it is pumping to is completely filled.

== Example layouts ==
=== Single Pump ===

[[Image:jt_screwpump.png|frame|left|A screw pump delivers from the level below to the tile in front.]] 

=== Multiple Levels ===
[[Image:pumpsnc4.png|frame|right|Diagram 2. Another example of a pump]]
==== Stacked pumps ====
''See Diagram 2.'' This example is from a
[http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=001225&p=2 Bay12 forum thread.]

#Side view of the basic pump unit. Water is moved from the lower floor to the upper; notice how the front of the pump does not need a floor.
#Side view of stacked screw pumps. Power is transmitted vertically through the missing floor tiles under the fronts of the pumps - no need for gearboxes in this design. The screw pump front prevents the water from flowing diagonally downwards.
#Top view of the basic pump unit.
#Top view with walls in place to prevent the receiving area from spilling out. If this is all it needed, these units could be stacked on top of each other, but it's missing one thing - dwarf access. There's no stairs/ramps, and no good place to put them either that wouldn't interfere with the adjacent levels' water containment.
#Solution for a freestanding tower - fire escape! Sure, you could consolidate the up and downstairs into a single up/down stair tile, but I like the zigzag and symmetrical arrangement this one presents. Just build these on top of each other, flipping horizontally each time, and bam. Minimal yet aesthetic multi-level water pumping.

====L-shaped Tunnels====
Instead of using dwarves to work the pumps you can create a pumping system around a central gear column, and use waterwheels at the base to create power for the entire structure.

The L-shape's purpose is to stop water leaking back down the system. Note that either level may be used as the base and tessellated appropriately.

Phase I - Dig out the basic shape of the structure
Digging

Level 1 Level 2 Key
###### ###### # Undug wall
# # # _# . May be wall, cleared, or stairs.
# #### # # ## _ Channel
# .. # # ..
#_#... # #...
###... ###...

Phase II - Construct the screw pumps and driver gears.
Construction

Level 1 Level 2 Key
###### ###### % Output side of pump
# # # %%_# % Input side of pump
#%#### # #*## * Direct drive gears
#%* .. # # ..
#_#... # #...
###... ###...

Phase III - Dig out the vertical channel for the power transfer column.
Digging

Level 1 Level 2 Key
###### ###### _ Channel for transfer gear.
# # # %%_#
#%#### # #*##
#%*_.. # #_..
#_#... # #...
###... ###...

Phase IV - Finally place the power transfer gear:

Construction

Level 1 Level 2 Key
###### ###### ˜ Water on z-1
#≈≈≈≈# #≈%%˜# ≈ Water on current z
#%#### #≈#*## * Power Transfer Gear
#%**.. #≈#*..
#˜#... #≈#...
###... ###...

Phase N - Hooking up to water wheels:

Placing water wheels in the water source can be used to power the whole system. Just add more wheels as neccesary.

######.... Key
#≈≈≈≈#.... | Horizontal axle (North-South)
#%####.... HHH Water wheel
.%**===*.. = Horizontal axle (East-West)
.˜.|...|..
.˜HHH˜HHH˜
..........

=== Running a pump with a windmill ===

First, build a [[windmill]] anywhere aboveground (note that it won't do anything yet).

Then, build the pump. The end you selected to 'pump from' will suck water up from the level below, then pump it out of the other end. Build with this in mind. If you want to pump from a river, the 'pump from' end should be on the river.

Both the pipe and corkscrew can be built by a [[carpenter]], (the corkscrew is listed as something like 'enormous wooden cor' if you are using the single-width screen, but hitting {{k|Tab}} to expand the screen should reveal the full text).

Connecting [[Windmill|windmills]] to pumps:

Note that it's much easier if the centre of the [[windmill]] lines up with the pump.

# Dig one level below the [[windmill]] and put a [[gear assembly]] directly beneath the [[axle]] (at centre of windmill). The windmill will start turning.
# You're probably going to want to bring your power up to the surface. To do this, dig away from the first gear until the surface is clear above. Place another gear here.
# Connect the gears together using a horizontal axle.
# Get a [[miner]] to [[channel]] on top of the second gear.
# Build a third gear in this channel. You should now have a turning gear on the surface.
# If you thought ahead, you should only need one axle to connect the surface gear to the pump. A pump can be powered from any side.

I recommend that you connect a lever to one of your gears beforehand. The pump will start pumping as soon as it has power.

You can change stuff around as the situation dictates, but that should get you started.

[[Image:Above.png|frame|none|above]]
[[Image:Below.png|frame|none|below]]

The pictures aren't lined up - the far right gear in the second picture is the one below the surface gear.

== Alternate Uses ==

Pumps can also be built with no actual pumping in mind but as dwarven exercise machines. This is an excellent method to train haulers for better strength and agility or for future soldiers.

[[Image:Screwpump-desalination.png|thumb|An example of how to desalinate water. Single-tilde water is salty, double-tilde water is pure.]]
Screw pumps also act to desalinate any water which is pumped through them. This is very useful for providing a source of potable water in otherwise entirely salt-water regions. However, if desalinated water comes into contact with saltwater, or passes through a saltwater [[aquifier]] level (even if it has been walled off), the water will be ''re''salinated.

Screw pumps can be used to "reset" [[water pressure]], preventing a surface water source from flooding a fortress through a [[well]] or fishing hole.

== External links ==

*[[User:Markavian/DFMA|DFMA]] Ingame Videos featuring screw pumps: ([http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-pump Movies with Pump in the title])

{{Water FAQ}}

[[Category:Machine components]]

40d Talk:Screw pump

2008-10-18T08:14:47Z

Raumkraut: /* Front vs rear */

{{archive|
#[[Talk:Screw pump|Current discussion]]
#[[Talk:Screw pump/archive1|Archive1]]
}}

== Archiving ==

See [[/archive1]] for discussions before July '08.
Most discussion was regarding page development which has been implemented. There are a few comments which might help people trying to work things out but most of it is in the article.[[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 00:56, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

==Two versions of the L-shaped tunnels design==
As I said when I removed it, there is no point having two. Do not add mine back in again. --[[User:Juckto|Juckto]] 21:57, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

You'd also cut how to set up water wheels & connect them to the pump tower. I wasn't 100% certain how to diagram connecting the wheels to the smaller tower design so I thought it best to restore the whole section until someone added that into the L-shape design. [[User:Calenth|Calenth]]

== Pumping Magma? ==

Would this work if the pump was made of magma-safe materials? --[[User:Mizzy|Mizzy]] 21:10, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

:Please check a talk page's [[Talk:Screw_pump/archive1#Materials_for_magma_pumps|archives]] before asking a question. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 02:46, 28 July 2008 (EDT)

:An edit to the [[Stupid dwarf trick]] page implied that only the blocks need be made of magma-safe materials. This needs to be studied further. --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 17:28, 2 August 2008 (EDT)

== Self powered pumps ==

So I'm just starting a new fortress, its got everything but an easy to make moat, but there is a river start to the east a little and two or three levels lower than my entrance. So, what I'm wondering is, is there some easy way to get a hydraulic powered pump going off of the power of the water being pumped (after the dwarves do the initial pumping). Also if anyone has diagrams or something of how to easily bring water up two or three levels (or possibly higher if theres some advantage to having water fall from a height). Sorry if this is kind of stupid or answered or anything, last time I played the game it had 1 level and I never got too much into mechanics farther than floodgates (lots of complicated and redundant floodgates as I recall) so I've never tried a pump or waterwheel. I'd rather not screw up this map (its just short of perfect, major magnemite deposits with limestone being the main component to the mountain overall, access to every civ, its Cold [I'm from Canada so I like the cold], has good hunting and a major river start). Thanks --[[User:Lowlandlord|Lowlandlord]] 15:43, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

:Place a waterwheel in the original river to supply power. You can raise water multiple levels by the methods described [[Screw_pump#Multiple_Levels|here]]. --[[User:Juckto|Juckto]] 20:01, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
::Thanks --[[User:Lowlandlord|Lowlandlord]] 01:57, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

Note that if you bring the water up higher than the moat, it '''will''' (not might. will.) overtop your moat. That's a good way to flood your fortress. [[User:Random832|Random832]] 16:07, 14 October 2008 (EDT)

An example of the [[Screw_pump#Multiple_Levels|multi-level pump]] including power source, gear assemblies and axles would pretty much make my entire month. Anyone up to the challenge? Pretty please? [[User:RomeoFalling|RomeoFalling]] 22:09, 14 October 2008 (EDT)

== Front vs rear ==

Do I understand correctly that the 'front' tile (i.e. blocks water flow) is the one where the water comes out of?

Sort of - it actually just 'spawns' water in the tile on the opposite side of that tile from the rear walkable tile, an amount equal to that which is removed a z-level down. --[[User:Sukasa|Sukasa]] 16:19, 14 October 2008 (EDT)

But either way, the output side blocks flow (so if in a narrow channel water cannot backflow through the pump if it is turned off), right? I need to know this for a design. [[User:Random832|Random832]] 16:31, 14 October 2008 (EDT)

: Yes, you are correct. I too was confused by the use of the word "front", as my perception is that the "front" of a pump would be where the water goes in, not out. --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 04:14, 18 October 2008 (EDT)

40d:Screw pump

2008-10-18T08:08:05Z

Raumkraut: Desalinisation verified, and note about resalinisation

{{Machine_component|name=Screw pump|key=s|job=[[Pump operator]]
|construction=
* [[Enormous corkscrew]]
* [[Pipe]]
* [[Block]]
|construction_job=
* [[Architecture]]
* 1 of
** [[Carpentry]]
** [[Masonry]]
|power=Needs 10 power.
}}
A '''screw pump''' can lift [[water]] from below onto the same [[Z-level]] as the pump. It is two tiles by one tile in size, and it can be either manually operated by a [[dwarf]] with the [[pump operator]] job or by using [[gear assembly|gear assemblies]] connected to [[water wheel]]s and/or [[windmill]]s. The direction you want the water to travel must be chosen at the time of construction.

== Construction ==

Building a screw pump requires an [[enormous corkscrew]], a stone, wood, or glass block, and a [[pipe]] section. The light green X must be next to the water source and the dark green X is where the water exits the pump. Having specified the direction of travel, you must ensure that the source side of the pump is placed adjacent to and above (in the [[z-axis]]) a liquid. The screw pump will draw the liquid up from below, and distribute it out of the other side of the pump. Screw pumps are [[building]]s that can be removed to recover the materials.

== Notes ==

* The source of the pump must be directionally adjacent to "Open Space" that is directly above a filled pool of liquid. The adjacent space cannot be a floor, hatch, or wall suspended over water. Screw pumps can pump water through a grate or floor bars.
* In order to build pumps in a "hanging" state, as in the stacked screw pump example, the dark tile of the screw pump must be able to connect to a nearby machine; either already existing or designated to be built.
* The rear pump tile does not block creature movement. The front of the pump does block creature movement.
* The front pump tile blocks water flow. The rear of the pump does not block water flow.
* Dwarves must be able to access and stand on the rear tile of the pump in order to be able to operate the pump manually.
* Active mechanisms connected to the pump will automatically start the pump; to prevent this either restrict water flow using floodgates, or put in a [[gear assembly]] linked to a [[lever]] to disconnect [[power|motion]].
* Pumps can also be used in conjunction with a [[water wheel]] or a [[windmill]] to become self-powered.
* Pumps can not push water up additional Z-levels. That is, if you direct the output of a screw pump into a 1-square space surrounded by walls, the water will not "overflow" the walls.
* Consequently, a pump will refuse to move water if the level it is pumping to is completely filled.

== Example layouts ==
=== Single Pump ===

[[Image:jt_screwpump.png|frame|left|A screw pump delivers from the level below to the tile in front.]] 

=== Multiple Levels ===
[[Image:pumpsnc4.png|frame|right|Diagram 2. Another example of a pump]]
==== Stacked pumps ====
''See Diagram 2.'' This example is from a
[http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=001225&p=2 Bay12 forum thread.]

#Side view of the basic pump unit. Water is moved from the lower floor to the upper; notice how the front of the pump does not need a floor.
#Side view of stacked screw pumps. Power is transmitted vertically through the missing floor tiles under the fronts of the pumps - no need for gearboxes in this design. The screw pump front prevents the water from flowing diagonally downwards.
#Top view of the basic pump unit.
#Top view with walls in place to prevent the receiving area from spilling out. If this is all it needed, these units could be stacked on top of each other, but it's missing one thing - dwarf access. There's no stairs/ramps, and no good place to put them either that wouldn't interfere with the adjacent levels' water containment.
#Solution for a freestanding tower - fire escape! Sure, you could consolidate the up and downstairs into a single up/down stair tile, but I like the zigzag and symmetrical arrangement this one presents. Just build these on top of each other, flipping horizontally each time, and bam. Minimal yet aesthetic multi-level water pumping.

====L-shaped Tunnels====
Instead of using dwarves to work the pumps you can create a pumping system around a central gear column, and use waterwheels at the base to create power for the entire structure.

The L-shape's purpose is to stop water leaking back down the system. Note that either level may be used as the base and tessellated appropriately.

Phase I - Dig out the basic shape of the structure
Digging

Level 1 Level 2 Key
###### ###### # Undug wall
# # # _# . May be wall, cleared, or stairs.
# #### # # ## _ Channel
# .. # # ..
#_#... # #...
###... ###...

Phase II - Construct the screw pumps and driver gears.
Construction

Level 1 Level 2 Key
###### ###### % Output side of pump
# # # %%_# % Input side of pump
#%#### # #*## * Direct drive gears
#%* .. # # ..
#_#... # #...
###... ###...

Phase III - Dig out the vertical channel for the power transfer column.
Digging

Level 1 Level 2 Key
###### ###### _ Channel for transfer gear.
# # # %%_#
#%#### # #*##
#%*_.. # #_..
#_#... # #...
###... ###...

Phase IV - Finally place the power transfer gear:

Construction

Level 1 Level 2 Key
###### ###### ˜ Water on z-1
#≈≈≈≈# #≈%%˜# ≈ Water on current z
#%#### #≈#*## * Power Transfer Gear
#%**.. #≈#*..
#˜#... #≈#...
###... ###...

Phase N - Hooking up to water wheels:

Placing water wheels in the water source can be used to power the whole system. Just add more wheels as neccesary.

######.... Key
#≈≈≈≈#.... | Horizontal axle (North-South)
#%####.... HHH Water wheel
.%**===*.. = Horizontal axle (East-West)
.˜.|...|..
.˜HHH˜HHH˜
..........

=== Running a pump with a windmill ===

First, build a [[windmill]] anywhere aboveground (note that it won't do anything yet).

Then, build the pump. The end you selected to 'pump from' will suck water up from the level below, then pump it out of the other end. Build with this in mind. If you want to pump from a river, the 'pump from' end should be on the river.

Both the pipe and corkscrew can be built by a [[carpenter]], (the corkscrew is listed as something like 'enormous wooden cor' if you are using the single-width screen, but hitting {{k|Tab}} to expand the screen should reveal the full text).

Connecting [[Windmill|windmills]] to pumps:

Note that it's much easier if the centre of the [[windmill]] lines up with the pump.

# Dig one level below the [[windmill]] and put a [[gear assembly]] directly beneath the [[axle]] (at centre of windmill). The windmill will start turning.
# You're probably going to want to bring your power up to the surface. To do this, dig away from the first gear until the surface is clear above. Place another gear here.
# Connect the gears together using a horizontal axle.
# Get a [[miner]] to [[channel]] on top of the second gear.
# Build a third gear in this channel. You should now have a turning gear on the surface.
# If you thought ahead, you should only need one axle to connect the surface gear to the pump. A pump can be powered from any side.

I recommend that you connect a lever to one of your gears beforehand. The pump will start pumping as soon as it has power.

You can change stuff around as the situation dictates, but that should get you started.

[[Image:Above.png|frame|none|above]]
[[Image:Below.png|frame|none|below]]

The pictures aren't lined up - the far right gear in the second picture is the one below the surface gear.

== Alternate Uses ==

Pumps can also be built with no actual pumping in mind but as dwarven exercise machines. This is an excellent method to train haulers for better strength and agility or for future soldiers.

Screw pumps also act to desalinate any water which is pumped through them. This is very useful for providing a source of potable water in otherwise entirely salt-water regions. However, if desalinated water comes into contact with saltwater, or passes through a saltwater [[aquifier]] level (even if it has been walled off), the water will be ''re''salinated.

Screw pumps can be used to "reset" [[water pressure]], preventing a surface water source from flooding a fortress through a [[well]] or fishing hole.

== External links ==

*[[User:Markavian/DFMA|DFMA]] Ingame Videos featuring screw pumps: ([http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-pump Movies with Pump in the title])

{{Water FAQ}}

[[Category:Machine components]]

40d:Ocean

2008-10-18T07:46:35Z

Raumkraut: Seaside aquifiers are also salty

An '''ocean''' is an immense volume of [[Water|saltwater]]. There are generally two or three oceans on every generated map. They come in three varieties, based on temperature, which affects the sea life found there: [[Arctic]], [[Temperate]] and [[Tropical]]. It is not possible to found a fort solely in an oceanic [[biome]], some land is needed.

== Geography ==

Oceans tend to have a heavy effect on the surrounding geography of the generated world. [[Volcano]]es can often be found around the perimeter of the ocean, and this tends to be easiest place to find them. [[Marsh]]es and [[swamp]]s also tend to form around oceanic coastlines, especially near [[river]]s. The land surrounding oceans also tends to have a high water table, resulting in [[aquifer]]s close to the surface.

== Survival==
Ocean areas will always contain salt water, even in pools that are quite some distance away. They are also rather notorious for containing [[aquifer]]s of multiple layers. The fishing will usually be good near an ocean, and there won't be as many [[carp]] or similar fish to deal with.

Because ocean biomes contain salt water, it will be impossible to give your dwarves water when they are injured, quite possibly leading to their death.

There is a way around this with screw pumps. This method involves pumping water with a screw pump into a completely constructed reservoir. After being pumped, water will become fresh water unless it touches any natural walls or floor in which case it will revert to salt water. This may be an [[exploit]].{{verify}}

== Life next to an ocean ==

Despite the warnings that the fortress selection screen displays, oceanside [[location]]s can be quite habitable - provided they are chosen well.

[[Image:Ocean-unique-features.GIF|thumb|400px|right| An oceanic shoreline. A wave crashes into the beach causing mist; on the right an exposed vein of Native Platinum is visible through the erosion during world generation. Stacks of [[driftwood]] also cover the beaches.]]

Oceans have a multitude of benefits: they're generally sparsely populated, and usually have an abundance of [[Agriculture|arable]] [[soil]]. Ocean [[fish]] are usually abundant and a good source of [[food]], though some sea [[creatures]] can be dangerous, particularly in [[Region#Surroundings|evil]] areas. Some oceans have [[sand]] beaches, a good resource for [[glass]]making. Oceans also provide a few unique geographic features, including stacks of [[driftwood]] and ocean waves - which crash against the beach to produce [[mist]]. The erosion caused by waves also tends to leave numerous exposed mineral veins and [[gem]] deposits at sea level, and some minerals like [[platinum]] form deposits in alluvial areas.

Despite these benefits, oceanic shorelines provide some challenges, and can be difficult starting areas. It is important to check for some variation in topography when choosing an ocean location, as the ground is almost always water-laden one tile down from sea-level. Even if slightly hilly terrain is found, there is no guarantee that [[stone]] will still be accessible. [[Forest]]s tend to make good [[biome]] additions, as they tend to have more varied terrain than marshes and swamps. When picking a forest it is important that the treeline extends at least two tiles away from the shoreline on the Local Map, otherwise you may potentially only have stacks of useless driftwood and no actual [[tree]]s and [[shrub]]s.

{{World}}

[[Category:Biomes]]
[[Category:Map tiles]]
[[Category:Water bodies]]
[[Category:World]]

40d Talk:Anvil

2008-10-15T06:02:13Z

Raumkraut: /* Fire Safe Anvil? */

== Cleaning the page ==
I've made some cleanup alterations, both to the article and this discussion page. Hope you all don't mind. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 23:21, 22 February 2008 (EST)

== Bars needed to make ==
I've noticed this page doesn't list how many bars are required to make an anvil. Anyone who knows offhand? Seems like it'd be useful info. [[User:MOOMANiBE|MOOMANiBE]] 17:37, 22 February 2008 (EST)
:3. --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 18:43, 22 February 2008 (EST)

== Getting an anvil from the caravan ==
So is it possible to easily procure an anvil within the first 1-2 years? because if it is, then I'm going to ditch it on the embark screen and spend those 1000pts on turtles.
:Thats a lot of turtles. Get dogs instead. Imagine a swarm of pooches descending on a goblin fortress, taking no prisoners, and leaving no goblin child behind! --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 15:33, 4 November 2007 (EST)
:In my experience the first dwarven caravan brings one. However they will charge you dearly for it (~1000$), moreso if the anvil is steel (~3000$). Prices are from memory. [[User:Anonymousphrase|Anonymousphrase]] 15:51, 4 November 2007 (EST)
:: The caravan has a high chance of bringing one, it is not certain. --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 09:27, 8 November 2007 (EST)
:::Dearly yes, but a well made stack of food will cover the cost of a steel one so it's not hard to buy out the caravan. I had one caravan turn up with two steel anvils and a stack of plump helmet (5). Seems that was all they could carry :( --10:21, 8 November 2007 (EST)
::::True, but that does take some planning. I never got enough cash (what is the correct dwarven word, the value word...) to buy the anvil in the first year, but I'm stupid and focus on creating goblets, and making enough beds etc for my dwarfs. --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 13:57, 8 November 2007 (EST)
:::::Cash in the first year is easy. I often find myself trading mechanisms because they're relatively high value/item (fewer hauling jobs to the depot), and if you're buying an anvil you're taking a lot of weight off their wagon. Its not like you didn't bring a mechanic... Barring that, it is possible to make enough cheap stone trinkets to buy everything you really want off the caravan, assuming you don't mind carting a couple hundred trinkets to the depot. You had to eat all that stone somehow, right? I've also never seen a caravan without an anvil in the first year, assuming the wagons could get to me. (And heck, it generally takes me to the second year to have enough ready access to fuel to make it worth running a metalsmith anyway, barring nearby known magma) --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 05:28, 22 April 2008 (EDT)

I'd definitely been left high and dry by the first dwarven caravan before. Took me three long years before I was finally able to get my hands on an anvil!—Preceding [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:DaveLawson|DaveLawson]] ([[User talk:DaveLawson|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/DaveLawson|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}
:I second that statement, I've regularly not seen an anvil show up with the first dwarven caravan. --[[User:Sentack|Sentack]] 11:00, 28 February 2008 (EST)

== Odd anvil materials ==
I have created a zinc anvil (value 200). Is this a bug?
::Anvil (100) made of zinc (x2) with no quality modifier (x1). 100 x2 x1 => 200. Looks right to me. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 12:29, 14 February 2008 (EST)
::Oh! Wait a minute. You aren't supposed to be able to make anvils out of zinc. What version are you using? I remember there was a bug where dwarves would use a different metal than the one assigned in the task, letting even pig iron be used to make stuff. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 12:31, 14 February 2008 (EST)
:::Heh, I'd like to have an archive of that version; I want a bismuth anvil. XD --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 11:55, 15 February 2008 (EST)
:::Pig iron stuff... I once had noble mandating pig iron items... He soon got locked in his room for such a crime against dwarvenkind. --[[User:Someone-else|Someone-else]] 07:56, 22 April 2008 (EDT)
::::Remember that anvils can be made of anything if created by a moody dwarf! --[[User:Termitehead|Termitehead]] 09:09, 6 May 2008 (CST)
:::::pig iron bars count, steel bars might, so basically he wants you to make steel....--[[User:Eerr|Eerr]] 16:26, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

== Anvil Quality and/or Material Affecting Final Product? ==

Just to make a note, http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=23783.0 gives anecdotal evidence that the anvil material may affect the quality of items made. In summary, it seems from that post that items of 'higher' material than the anvil material has reduced quality chances (and by 'higher', I would guess the weapon/armor material modifiers). The adamantine scenario is in that post, but the implication is that for a steel industry, a steel anvil would be a good idea. Obviously, more testing is needed, and this might just be drivel. [[User:Blackcat|Blackcat]] 07:19, 26 August 2008 (EDT)

== Fire Safe Anvil? ==

i purchased an iron anvil from the caravan, and when i attempt to construct a metalsmith's forge, it says i need a fire-safe anvil. --[[User:Plstcflsh|Plstcflsh]] 00:55, 15 October 2008 (EDT)

:If you've only just bought it, chances are that the anvil is tasked ("[TSK]") with being taken to a suitable stockpile. Items that have been assigned a task, even hauling, are unavailable for any other purpose. If this is the case, just wait for the anvil to be stockpiled, at which point it will become available, and then build your forge. --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 02:02, 15 October 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Clothing

2008-09-05T15:59:39Z

Raumkraut: /* Separating */

== masterpiece disentigration ==
Does masterpiece clothing disentigration still cause the maker to get all pissy over it?

If so, then it needs to be added to the article. --[[User:Heliopios|Heliopios]] 13:31, 1 December 2007 (EST)

I've seen a few artifact articles of clothes in the game, but I have never seen anyone wear them. It could be that the game avoids this question. --[[User:Mirthmanor|Mirthmanor]] 20:24, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

== mass-produce? discard old clothes? ==
I would like to see something on which clothes players should mass-produce to keep their dwarves happy. I'm really not sure myself. [[User:Mindsnap|Mindsnap]] 15:37, 6 December 2007 (EST)
: I second this request. Do dwarves automatically discard old clothes? It seems that my dwarves are buying new clothes at the stores, but then they still wear there old rotting trousers. --[[User:Mitchy|Mitchy]] 11:01, 9 January 2008 (EST)
::In my experience they would discard old socks and boots, but will wear a dosen rotting dresses at once. Maybe some inv slots have limit on the clothes number, and some not? [[User:Dorten|Dorten]] 23:11, 9 January 2008 (EST)
: I recall a post on the forums that said it's best not to produce clothing at all, and start a dwarven nudist colony. That method is a simple solution that prevents unhappy thoughts from accumulating. I don't think it maximizes happiness, though, as Dwarves get happy thoughts from making satisfying acquisitions. [[User:Non|Non]] 03:50, 5 February 2008 (EST)
:: No good idea. Not having clothes gives an unhappy thought for every separate piece of clothes missing. --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 16:00, 18 February 2008 (EST)
:::not so. dwarves get(used to, removed this version) an unhappy thought for LOSING each piece of clothing, but once its gone(or if they started with none) there is no unhappy thought. they are perfectly fine and happy being naked, once the sadness of rotting clothes wears off --[[User:Chariot|Chariot]] 18:30, 18 February 2008 (EST)
:::: I once had the thought "XY was embarrassed to have no shirt lately". cant swear if he had one before that thought or not, but dont rotting clothes give a different thought "emb. about...clothes rot away"? It still might be that he gets that thought only once. --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 18:56, 18 February 2008 (EST)

== Artifact Cave Spider Silk Thong ==

All right, given that you probably ''are'' going to make exotic underwear with cave spider silk... couldn't it at least be something that the dwarf who made it was going to ''wear'' rather than something which is rare for humans?

Oh well, when my clothier passes over I will have something fantastic to sell which is also very light I guess![[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 21:47, 2 February 2008 (EST)

== Why bother? ==

Am I missing something? Is there any reason at all to provide new clothes for dwarfs? --[[User:Shadow archmagi|Shadow archmagi]] 09:27, 28 February 2008 (EST)
:You mean other than the fact that if old clothes start to rot the dwarf wearing said clothing gets an unhappy thought? I highly doubt that's been removed since the last version I was semi-familiar with. --[[User:BDR|BDR]] 13:52, 28 February 2008 (EST)
:: Ah. Well, I built a HUGE dining room. Its taken two years to fully smooth it, but now any dwarf who eats instantly becomes either ecstatic, happy, or, if they're whole family was killed and they had to sleep on the ground by the rotting corpses, they might just be content. Wow, writing that once again reminded me how totally R rated this game would be if it were 3d. --[[User:Shadow archmagi|Shadow archmagi]] 16:04, 28 February 2008 (EST)
::BDR- it was taken out in the latest release because of problems. Once it works right, Toady said he was going to bring it back, but for the current version and immediate future, clothes are just a waste of effort.--[[User:Erom|Erom]] 16:36, 28 February 2008 (EST)

== Frequency ratings ==
How common is common? It seems like every goblin invasion has had about 4 or 5 iron masks, about 50% of goblins, so it doesn't seem like they are that uncommon. Is this on the threshold of uncommon? Do others get this many masks? [[User:Dangerous Beans|Dangerous Beans]] 07:11, 2 August 2008 (EDT)

:Well, I've been playing for a couple months, and I've never seen one. So, uh, maybe it's something to do with the specific culture of the goblin civilization that's attacking you. --[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 14:01, 2 August 2008 (EDT)

::That would make sense, I might start a new fortress else where, and see if I get as many. [[User:Dangerous Beans|Dangerous Beans]] 01:56, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

== Separating ==

Is there anyway to separate dwarf-sized clothing from goblin & kobold sized clothing? I've been messing with my stockpiles, but can't seem to sort them out. [[User:HeWhoIsPale|HeWhoIsPale]] 10:14, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

:I've been working under the assumption that the {{key|u}} usable and {{key|j}} unusable toggles on many of the stockpile pages provide this functionality. I ''think'' it works, but I generally don't really pay that much attention to such matters... --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 11:59, 5 September 2008 (EDT)

40d:Giant cave swallow

2008-09-04T21:24:52Z

Raumkraut: Speeling

{{CreatureInfo|name=Giant Cave Swallow|symbol=C|color=rgb(128, 128, 128)|bones=8|chunks=8|meat=8|fat=3|skulls=1|skin=Yes|biome= * Subterranean chasm|wiki=no}}

'''Giant cave swallows''' are giant colorful birds which commonly live in [[cave]]s. They are two [[size]]s smaller than [[Giant bat]]s but have the same attack power. They will attack your dwarves without provocation if they come too close, and are quite able to kill your average non-military dwarf.

The fact that they move through Z-levels a lot makes them hard to hit with crossbows.

Do not confuse the initials of the giant cave swallow with those of [[giant cave spider|a far more dangerous creature]].

{{Game_Data|[CREATURE:BIRD_SWALLOW_CAVE_GIANT]
[NAME:giant cave swallow:giant cave swallows:giant cave swallow]
[TILE:'C'][COLOR:0:0:1]
[MODVALUE:5]
[LARGE_ROAMING][DIFFICULTY:2]
[FLIER]
[GENPOWER:3][NATURAL][PET_EXOTIC][MOUNT_EXOTIC]
[PETVALUE:700]
[PREFSTRING:coloration]
[BODY:HUMANOID_ARMLESS:2WINGS:2EYES:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:HUMANOID_JOINTS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:4TOES:BEAK]
[SIZE:8]
[MAXAGE:10:20]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:BEAK:bite:bites:1:6:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
[CHILD:1][CHILDNAME:giant cave swallow hatchling:giant cave swallow hatchlings]
[FAT:3]
[ALL_ACTIVE]
[BIOME_SUBTERRANEAN_CHASM]
[STANDARD_FLESH]
[HOMEOTHERM:10067]
[LAYERING:100]
[SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
[POPULATION_NUMBER:15:30]
[BENIGN]
}}
{{Creatures}}
[[Category:Animals]]

40d:Giant cave swallow

2008-09-04T21:23:25Z

Raumkraut: Plural form for consistency.

{{CreatureInfo|name=Giant Cave Swallow|symbol=C|color=rgb(128, 128, 128)|bones=8|chunks=8|meat=8|fat=3|skulls=1|skin=Yes|biome= * Subterrenean chasm|wiki=no}}

'''Giant cave swallows''' are giant colorful birds which commonly live in [[cave]]s. They are two [[size]]s smaller than [[Giant bat]]s but have the same attack power. They will attack your dwarves without provocation if they come too close, and are quite able to kill your avarage non-military dwarf.

The fact that they move through Z-levels a lot makes them hard to hit with crossbows.

Do not confuse the initials of the giant cave swallow with those of [[giant cave spider|a far more dangerous creature]].

{{Game_Data|[CREATURE:BIRD_SWALLOW_CAVE_GIANT]
[NAME:giant cave swallow:giant cave swallows:giant cave swallow]
[TILE:'C'][COLOR:0:0:1]
[MODVALUE:5]
[LARGE_ROAMING][DIFFICULTY:2]
[FLIER]
[GENPOWER:3][NATURAL][PET_EXOTIC][MOUNT_EXOTIC]
[PETVALUE:700]
[PREFSTRING:coloration]
[BODY:HUMANOID_ARMLESS:2WINGS:2EYES:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:HUMANOID_JOINTS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:4TOES:BEAK]
[SIZE:8]
[MAXAGE:10:20]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTOKEN:BEAK:bite:bites:1:6:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
[CHILD:1][CHILDNAME:giant cave swallow hatchling:giant cave swallow hatchlings]
[FAT:3]
[ALL_ACTIVE]
[BIOME_SUBTERRANEAN_CHASM]
[STANDARD_FLESH]
[HOMEOTHERM:10067]
[LAYERING:100]
[SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
[POPULATION_NUMBER:15:30]
[BENIGN]
}}
{{Creatures}}
[[Category:Animals]]

40d Talk:Fire

2008-09-01T20:50:33Z

Raumkraut: /* Forest Fire */

How does fire spread in the new version. I don't have magma on my map so I haven't been able to experiment.

Maybe someone with experience could write up on the risks, ie how it spreads, how long it burns, how dwarfs react and what can be done to fight/prevent it. --[[User:Lucid|Lucid]] 21:09, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

Could someone test to see what levels of water will extinguish fire somehow? Perhaps a fortress at high risk for fire could have emergency floodgates set up to dump precise reservoirs of water at important areas like the living quarters or food/booze stockpiles.

god save us if it is affected by the mud/blood bug too [[User:Thatguyyaknow|Thatguyyaknow]] 13:07, 8 November 2007 (EST)

no it ain't the blood bug, it's the fire bug. Someone copy and paste it from the old wiki. --[[User:Frostedfire|Frostedfire]] 22:14, 14 November 2007 (EST)

I can confirm that fire spreads to adjucent squares. My fortress catched fire (long story) and wooden barrels and bins on stockpiles burned. When they completety burned out their contents catched fire and many piles of 20 !!leather!!, 20 !!cloth!! and 20 or more !!seeds!! generated '''very''' heavy lags. I didn't pay attention if it spreads diagonally but a burning item on the floor makes all 8 squares around it "warm stone wall" just as magma do to it's 4 directly adjacent squares.--[[User:Another|Another]] 14:26, 26 November 2007 (EST)

Is there a way to intentionally start a fire? [[User:Diabl0658|Diabl0658]] 20:12, 5 January 2008 (EST)
:Dig into the side of a pool of lava. Remove a construction holding back lava. Open a wooden door holding back lava. Open a floodgate to lava. Some combination of pumps, stairs, ramps, walls, and stockpiles will allow you to choose what gets set on fire and where. [[User:Rkyeun|Rkyeun]] 00:59, 9 March 2008 (EST)

Fire doesn't seem to spread by walking near it though... I forbade a few burning corpses and the dwarves had no problem stepping over it without catching fire.

Possibly fire on items like clothing or corpses will only spread to dwarves touching it.

A more informative page than "fire sucks" might be useful. Maybe a list of fire sources, what objects will and won't burn, how fire spreads and measures you can take to limit the damage or stop it. Maybe telling your dwarves to dump water in your hallways to keep a nice [1/7] coating?

== Fireproof silk? ==

i noticed that cave spider silk clothes dont catch fire. i had a guy incinerated by magma touching him - he managed to move away and his silk clothing was all that was left [[User:Twiggie|Twiggie]] 14:06, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

== Forest Fire ==

I just started a new game near a volcano, in a forest. In the first winter, a fire imp left the caldera, and the forest burst into flame. Anyone see this before? The entire map went up in smoke... I lost 5 dwarves to it.
--[[User:Mabmoro|mabmoro]] 22:01, 31 August 2008 (EDT)

:I've seen this multiple times on my current map, haven't lost dwarves, but did have a dwarf caravan run straight into one... As when I tried to pin down what started it and why, all the fire imps were back in the volcano (if they ever left to begin with), but at the exact center of the ring of fire was a pile of groundhog bones - so I think a fire imp wandered out, saw a groundhog, and fried it, causing a massive fire... that or groundhogs spontaneously combust now. Could probably use channels or walls as firebreaks to keep the whole map from burning when it happens, embark with a magma vent that (hopefully) doesn't reach the surface rather than a volcano, or try to close off the top of the volcano. Probably simpler to wall in any surface areas you're using and just tell your dwarves to stay inside when you see a fire though. --[[User:Nethras|Nethras]] 15:02, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

:I had a forest fire the other day - the burn pattern indicated it started in two places approximately simultaneously, in the vicinity of a [[Fire Man]] and a Cougar (though I never saw any bones). The Fire Man had been busy elsewhere with no such effect though, despite killing numerous groundhogs, a couple of Mules, a pet cat, and one of my dwarves.
:The fire didn't manage to enter my encampment, probably due to the foot traffic killing off the vegetation around the entrance, but it did spread across the rest of that z-level. No harm was done to any living creature which encountered it though, as far as I could tell. --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 16:50, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

40d:Ice

2008-08-31T13:35:41Z

Raumkraut: Thawed ice floors don't generate water.

'''Ice''' is [[water]] that has been frozen by cold temperatures, usually because of [[winter]]. Any water that is [[outside]] will freeze during winter, while it will stay the same if it is [[inside]].

A tile of water will freeze into an '''ice wall''', while creating an '''ice floor''' one [[Z-Axis]] above it. The ice wall will be the same no matter how deep the water is. The floor can be walked on freely, and there doesn't seem to be any kind of thin, breakable ice. The ice wall can be [[mine]]d through, which leaves the above ice floor intact. [[Channel]]ing the ice floor will destroy both the floor and the wall. The ice wall will melt into water of depth 7 [http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Talk:Water] when warmer temperatures arrive. An ice floor will also melt, but not leave behind any water.

Ice can be mined through without causing a [[flood]], making Winter an ideal time to get rid of any [[lake]]s that are in the way.

== Ice as a Stone ==

Ice appears as a light blue stone which can be found by mining through an ice wall. Ice can be used to build [[construction]]s and [[workshops]]. Ice boulders and objects made of ice will melt when exposed to warmer temperatures (such as inside a fortress), giving it rather limited use. Nevertheless, workshops made of ice have a certain novelty to them, and it's even possible to make [[furnace]]s out of ice, as counter-intuitive as that sounds.

The games refers to Ice boulders as "water". It doesn't appear in any stockpile options or the manager, but it does appear under the "stones" section of the [[Stocks]] menu.

== Out of Water ==

As ice takes the place of water, entire water supplies can be completely frozen on colder areas. This can depopulate an entire fortress in just the first winter if they're unprepared. The only way to counter this is to make a water pit inside beforehand, or brew enough [[alcohol]].
[[category:Map_tiles]]

== Mining Hazard ==

Watch out when digging through ice into (subterranean) unfrozen water resorts. The space cleared by the miner will freeze solid again instantly, encasing the advancing miner into a wall of ice. This means not only the loss of a valuable dwarf, but also of his now inaccessible equipment.

== Smoothing Ice ==

Smoothed ice walls are called straight ice wall, smoothed ice floors all called level ice floor, engraved ice floors are called sculpted ice floors and engraved Ice walls are called sculpted ice walls.

== Melting Ice ==
It can be very important to be able to extract water from permanently-frozen ice (for instance on cold northern maps) in order to give water to the wounded. This can be done with magma. Dig out a tunnel one z-level below the ice sheet and fill it with magma. The ice on the above z-level will melt. You can see this happening here: http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-153-meltingwateronglacier

If you would like to transport magma to heat a frozen [[brook]] or other such feature that is very far away from the magma pipe, try to use a magma duct that is nearly as wide as the area you intend to fill. Otherwise, magma will tend to evaporate as it disperses from a narrow duct to a wider area.

{{Water FAQ}}

40d Talk:Fire

2008-08-29T18:24:35Z

Raumkraut: Fireproof silk?

40d:Fire

2008-08-29T18:23:57Z

Raumkraut: Moving talk to talk page.

A border of exclamation marks (!!) on an item or [[dwarf]] name indicates that it is on '''fire'''.
Items on fire also release smoke and ignite adjacent items.

This had problems in the old version, in that the burning items set other nearby items on fire. A good example:

#Dwarf gets hit by fireball from [[fire imp]] at the [[magma forge]]
#Dwarf runs around his business, as he takes burning damage he goes for a rest, and heads for the [[barracks]]
#The dwarf dies on the way. Someone comes and picks up his !![[giant cave spider]] [[silk]] [[shoe]]!! and puts it on. His clothing catches on fire
#This dwarf also feels hurt and heads for the barracks, but this one gets on the [[wood]]en [[bed]], lighting that up.
#Nearby beds light up; dwarves sleep on that [[bed]] and the others near it and get lit up themselves, as well as the dwarves going for the !![[cave spider]] [[silk]] [[robe]]!!
#Some of these dwarves go past the [[alcohol]] stores for a drink, these light up. now a fair portion of the fortress is on fire.
#Remaining dwarves will have other barracks to sleep in, and some of them have rooms. they go back and set more of their stuff on fire
#Three months later: everything is burning and all your dwarves are dead because none of them fell in the [[river]].
#Wasn't that [[fun]]?

[[Category:Physics]]

40d:Aquifer

2008-08-24T14:15:58Z

Raumkraut: Removed erroneous text, and stylistic editing.

An '''aquifer''' is a subterranean layer of water-bearing rock or [[soil]]. Attempts to mine through them will result in the mined-out squares immediately filling with [[water]], effectively halting excavation at or below their level. This, in conjunction with the fact that they are often located in areas rich in [[loam]], and [[sand]], makes it difficult to find great quantities of [[stone]] in areas with aquifers, making for more challenging gameplay.

== Where they are found ==
Aquifers are found in soil layers and some porous rock layers.

Layers which CAN contain aquifers:
*[[Soil|sandy clay loam]]
*[[Soil|silty clay loam]]
*[[Soil|loam]]
*[[Soil|sandy loam]]
*[[Soil|silt loam]]
*[[Soil|loamy sand]]
*[[Soil|silt]]
*[[sand]]
*[[Soil|yellow sand]]
*[[Soil|white sand]]
*[[Soil|black sand]]
*[[Soil|red sand]]
*[[Soil|peat]]
*[[Soil|pelagic clay]]
*[[Soil|calcareous ooze]]
*[[Soil|siliceous ooze]]
*[[sandstone]]
*[[conglomerate]]

Layers which CAN'T contain aquifers
*[[Soil|clay]]
*[[Soil|silty clay]]
*[[Soil|sandy clay]]
*[[Soil|clay loam]]
*[[siltstone]]
*[[mudstone]]

== Dealing with aquifers ==

The challenges presented by an aquifer may be circumvented in several ways. Firstly, much more of your equipment will likely be made from [[wood]], especially early on, so it may help to be in a heavily forested area. Once you've established your fortress a bit, you will also be able to [[trade]] for stone and [[metal]]s if you run short.

It is also worth noting that it sometimes possible to find some amount of stone above the aquifer. It may help to create exploratory shafts searching for pockets of stone. Be aware that mining along the level immediately above the aquifer will result in patches of 'damp stone,' which will flood if mined out; these squares will flash with water when designating mining areas.

===The speed method===
For multi layer aquifers, if your miners dig fast enough more than one aquifer layer can be pierced.as of 40c one aquifer can drain into another. Ths allows work to be done from a layer down, but does not successfully pierce through all aquifer layers completely.

===The ore method===
On maps where the aquifer is not held in a layer of soil, but instead is held in a [[sedimentary layer]] such as [[sandstone]], it may be possible to tunnel down through deposits of [[ore]] such as [[magnetite]]. For this to work you have to find a spot where there is coincidentally an ore deposit on each Z-level you need to dig through. This is only possible through tiresome trial and error, or through the use of a [[Utilities|utility]] like reveal.exe.

===The magma method===
If you have access to a supply of [[magma]], you can create your own [[obsidian]] caissons. The water from the aquifer is not pressurized and magma is chunky, so it is safe to dig [[channel]]s in aquifer. Though you will have to re-dig a lot of channels due to an element of chance, you can create a pool of magma on the aquifer z-level, and then pinch the pool off from the supply of magma with water. When it cools (which you can hasten with more water) you can dig down through the middle of a 3x3 patch of obsidian without flooding. With larger starting patches, you can dig through multiple levels of aquifer.

===The other magma method===
Magma vents have two outer layers that may allow you to get past the aquifer with minimal effort. Just outside the magma is always a layer of obsidian, which is one of the many stones unable to hold aquifer water. Just beyond this obsidian will be a layer of the surrounding soil or rock which has been dried by the [[magma vent]]. Depending on the exact layout of your magma vent, you may be able to dig straight down next to it, or you may have to dig around a bit to find a workable path.

Tips:
*With a visible magma shaft, any tile that is not touching the magma on its Z-level (by edge or corner) is safe from magma, even if there is magma directly above it.
*Any tile which is not marked as damp is safe from the aquifer, even if there is a damp tile next to it.
*To find the water-safe tiles, you can dig down [[stair]]cases on the floor above, which reveal the tile below. These can later be covered up by constructed [[floor]]s, if you want.
**'''Warning:''' Do not dig up staircases on the aquifer layer until you know the tile is safe from water. Digging an up staircase creates an open tile, which can fill with water and render adjacent squares unsafe.
*The dried tiles are the same type as the surrounding aquifer, so an aquifer-filled sand layer can be used for gathering sand, if it touches the magma vent.

===The pump method===
It is possible to [[pump]] the water out of an aquifer; though the supply is apparently unlimited it can be pumped out faster than the water seeps in, allowing for a fairly safe area on the z level. This method is somewhat dangerous since problems with your pumps can lead to drowning, however, it allows a larger area to be cleared than most methods and can be done anywhere. It's possible to build [[wall]]s on the levels with aquifers to stop water. It's also easier to plan around a series of pumps than hoping you'll hit rock on the way down.
There is an example of how to get through an aquifer with pumps here: http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-120-aquifercmv
Note that this method will not work with the current version, as it is no longer possible to pump an infinite amount of water into one tile. It can be modified, however, by placing channels behind the pumps so that the water drains back into the aquifer.

It is possible to expand this method to breach multiple z-levels. Just make sure your room on the next level down has a minimum of room allowed for this design. For areas larger than the design, break up the room into smaller areas (6x6 is reasonably workable) and pump them out one at a time from at least three sides (into another section when necessary, you only need one dry at a time), and building walls on the outer edges. As you pump out additional sections, you can connect them, digging through the dividing dirt walls and building a wall between the two sections you've already built to complete the water-proofing. As a note, pumps can't pump if you build a wall in the space they're pumping from, which is why it is necessary to either pump from all four sides, or to dig out the space to rewall.

===The ice method===
There is a simple method of getting past an aquifer although it is restricted to a small shaft down, and not possible on all maps.
You will need:
*9 pieces of material suitable for crafting [[Wall|Walls]] and [[floor]]s.
*1 [[Carpenter]] or [[Mason]] (depending on your wall's building material of choice)
*1 [[Miner]] (using multiple miners runs the danger of one miner digging a channel on the floor another is standing on!*)[Fixed in .33f]
*A map which freezes

Steps:
#Dig channels in a 5x5 square.
#Dig stairs on the outside of the square to allow access to the next level.
#Carefully dig channels underneath all the other channels and build another stair down.
#Continue down in this way until you're right above the water table.
#Dig channels around a central square.
#Wait for the water to freeze.
#The outer-most blocks of ice on the aquifer level will prevent the inner block from being damp.
#Dig a central set of stairs which will allow you to go through the aquifer level and access the levels below.
#If the map will warm up, make sure to surround the stairwell on the aquifer level with walls.
#This system can be expanded to allow for a bigger stairwell.

Diagram:
*<tt>C</tt> - channel
*<tt>G</tt> - grate
*<tt>W</tt> - wall
*<tt>X</tt> - up/down stairs
*<tt>></tt> - down stair
*<tt><</tt> - up stair
*<tt>I</tt> - Ice/water
*<tt>F</tt> - Floor

Surface level:
<pre>
CCCCC
CCCCC
CCCCC>
CCCCC
CCCCC
</pre>
Intermediate levels:
<pre>
CCCCC
CCCCC
CCCCCX
CCCCC
CCCCC
</pre>
Aquifer level + 1:
<pre>
CCCCC
CCCCC
CC>CF<
CCCCC
CCCCC
</pre>
Aquifer level:
<pre>
IIIII
IWWWI
IWXWI
IWWWI
IIIII
</pre>

===The cave-in method===
If you cause the soil layers above the aquifer to cave-in on the aquifer layer, the caved-in layers above the aquifer will become mineable.

===Differing biomes===
If your local area has more than one [[biome]], you may be able to dig down in one biome to bridge under an aquifer in another. This won't work if the aquifer is present in all biomes, of course, but it may be useful in the case of a surprise aquifer that was not marked on the region selection screen.

== Advantages of aquifers ==

It's worth noting that the presence of an aquifer, while challenging, does offer some slight advantages. Firstly, much of the area [[underground]] but above the aquifer will be sand, clay, or loam, all of which can be planted in without requiring any kind of irrigation or flooding, allowing farming to get under way quicker and with less stress. Additionally, the presence of water 3-4 z-levels below ground anywhere on the map makes placing [[well]]s a simpler task, as well as ensuring easy access to subterranean water supplies. Also, just as water will flow endlessly ''out'' of an aquifer if there is a way out, it will flow endlessly ''into'' an aquifer given time. If you dig a channel into an aquifer, water that runs into the channel will disappear without ever causing it to overflow.

== General Tips ==
*Tunnels dug directly below an aquifer will flood. Go down another level before you ruin all that hard work you spent getting through in the first place.
*Smoothing an aquifer wall will make it stop leaking water. This is especially useful when you are trying to get through with a pump. A tunnel directly below a smoothed aquifer tile will not flood. Digging through the smoothed wall tile will cause it to leak water again until you have completely dug out the tile.
*An aquifer wall will not leak water diagonally; it will only add water to tiles directly north/south/east/west.
*On an ocean [[island]], the aquifer is not potable (unlike aquifers on real-life oceanic islands), so you cannot create drinking water zones from the aquifer.
{{World}}

User talk:Grath

2008-08-24T14:01:22Z

Raumkraut: Arf!

[http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php?title=Iron&curid=1435&diff=31293&oldid=30273 Best. Edit. Ever.] --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 10:01, 24 August 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Undead

2008-08-23T19:49:01Z

Raumkraut: /* Skeleton Corpse */

One question: I had two dwarves that were not always occupied hunt small zombies and skeletons (hoary marmots, mountain goat and such). Apart from getting really good at wrestling, they both seemed to gain "Is used to tragedy" as a character trait. Can anyone confirm that? -- [[User:qwertyu|qwertyu]] 12:34, 9 March 2008 (CET)

:That always happens regardless of what they are killing.

:Should we include the fact that attempting to pit undead animals of any kind will result in them attacking the moment they are released, regardless of how close they are to the pit. (They can be right next to it but still attack the pit-ter once they are out of the cages)
:--[[User:Umiman|Umiman]] 07:39, 29 May 2008 (EDT)

::I believe we should put it in as a warning to those who attempt to put captured undead in pits.
::--Rickola

:::Should it be mentioned that the Undead versions are much more tougher than 'normal' creatures, once I had an entire fortress wiped out by a single Undead Racoon. --[[User:Hoborobo|Hoborobo]] 06:47, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

== Skeleton Corpse ==

I have a Skeleton Horse Corpses. That's not normal, right? It appears to have fallen several levels into a river. Adjacent to it (well... adjacent if you ignore the z-difference) are bridge squares and weapon traps. --[[User:Groveller|Groveller]] 11:55, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

:I saw [http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=22793.0 this report] a while ago on the bugs board. May be worth resurrecting it (especially if you can supply saves)? --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 14:21, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

::Hmm, just noticed it wasn't on the bugs board, but on the gameplay questions board. May be worth starting a thread on the bugs board then? --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 15:49, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Undead

2008-08-23T18:22:32Z

Raumkraut: preview? What's that? >_>

40d Talk:Undead

2008-08-23T18:21:39Z

Raumkraut: /* Skeleton Corpse */

One question: I had two dwarves that were not always occupied hunt small zombies and skeletons (hoary marmots, mountain goat and such). Apart from getting really good at wrestling, they both seemed to gain "Is used to tragedy" as a character trait. Can anyone confirm that? -- [[User:qwertyu|qwertyu]] 12:34, 9 March 2008 (CET)

:That always happens regardless of what they are killing.

:Should we include the fact that attempting to pit undead animals of any kind will result in them attacking the moment they are released, regardless of how close they are to the pit. (They can be right next to it but still attack the pit-ter once they are out of the cages)
:--[[User:Umiman|Umiman]] 07:39, 29 May 2008 (EDT)

::I believe we should put it in as a warning to those who attempt to put captured undead in pits.
::--Rickola

:::Should it be mentioned that the Undead versions are much more tougher than 'normal' creatures, once I had an entire fortress wiped out by a single Undead Racoon. --[[User:Hoborobo|Hoborobo]] 06:47, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

== Skeleton Corpse ==

I have a Skeleton Horse Corpses. That's not normal, right? It appears to have fallen several levels into a river. Adjacent to it (well... adjacent if you ignore the z-difference) are bridge squares and weapon traps. --[[User:Groveller|Groveller]] 11:55, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

:I saw [url=http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=22793.0]this report[/url] a while ago on the bugs board. May be worth resurrecting it (especially if you can supply saves)? --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 14:21, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Turtle

2008-08-22T22:10:11Z

Raumkraut:

'If your dwarves are not eating your turtles fast enough for your preferences you can always delegate them to a dedicated stockpile in a sealed room, and remove the stockpile and lock the door to let them rot away. '

why would you want to trash food? ever? just make a bigger stockpile... [[User:Twiggie|Twiggie]] 16:49, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

: Shells.
: And bones.
: But mostly shells. --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 18:10, 22 August 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Activity zone

2008-08-18T18:41:31Z

Raumkraut: /* Inappropriate building? */

==Proposed move==
should this page be moved to the singluar title "Activity zone" ?
(unsigned/unknown [[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 07:59, 4 July 2008 (EDT))

==Force drinking location==
Any advice how to get dwarves really drink where I want them?
I have one space water supply zone at the end of channel so the zone is above the floodgate) and then I have another 12 space zone around a little pond.. still all the dwarves run all the way to the brook for drink. (..yea yea, I know, I need booze. sorry for beeing slow)
--Shiona
:under the orders menu, along with the only farmers harvest and refuse type orders, there is an option for zones, under that submenu you can say 'prefer to drink/fish at zone' 'only drink/fish at zone' which might be what you need. Also make sure you are setting the zones to a type and not just designating them. --[[User:Shades|Shades]] 05:27, 6 November 2007 (EST)

==Vertigo when filling ponds?==
This is not really related to zones, but I have a pond my dwarves are filling, which is three levels deep. They seem to be suffering from extreme vertigo; they keep filling a bucket, dumping it in, and then staggering away stunned and nauseous. There's vomit ''all over'' my pond now.
- [[User:Clockwork|Clockwork]] 19:20, 18 November 2007 (EST)
:That sounds like cave adjustment to me. When's the last time they've been outside before that problem arose? If dwarves spend too long underground, they'll get accustomed to it, to the point that being hit by sunlight again will give them the exact symptoms you just described. The pond has nothing to do with it, aside from the fact that they're outside while filling it. --[[User:Hesitris|Hesitris]] 22:42, 18 November 2007 (EST)

==Inappropriate building?==
I have designated a pond inside my fort in an attempt to get some floors muddy for farming. However, I keep getting the message: so and so cancels Fill Pond: Inappropriate building. Any hints as to what I am doing wrong?
- [[User:Ehertlein|Ehertlein]] 07:03, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

: IIRC Dwarves will only pour water into a pit; ie. an empty space. If you want to make a floor muddy, you need to mark a pond on the z-level above it. --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 14:41, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

== Garbage dump ==
The following sentence is self contradicting. "Each ground tile within that zone is considered a garbage dump tile; thus, if you want to place a single-tile zone, place the zone onto a ground tile (optionally adjacent to a cliff or pit), not onto an open space." It needs correcting, one way or the other. --[[User:Aykavil|Aykavil]] 04:49, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

==Wiki style question==
while reading articles in this wiki, i sometimes see keyboard keys described as being "pushed" (for example, under Construction in [[Well]]), sometimes as being "used" (link) and sometimes just Shortcut {{k|w}} (for example, [[Dump]]). can i use any of these in articles that i wish to add to the wiki? -[[User:Anachron|Anachron]]
:There is a lack of consistency. Fix it all! or adopt the (non)standard that already exists... the real answer is see the [[rule]]s. If it's not covered and you think it should be.... work out where it should go![[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 07:59, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

==Animal pits==
Is this how I am meant to keep all my herd animals in the same place (I'd prefer not to cage them, I don't know why...)? Are they gonna get hurt when I drop them down a z-level?[[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 07:59, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
:Now I think I have an issue that...
::I have a passage leading to a channel. The channel and one floor tile before it are my pit zones.
::Below that is a room with a s-bend corridor with several doors marked "Passable" (ie not passable to pets).
:It seems that my dwarves want to drop an animal into the pit. Then go downstairs, pick it up, and do it again.
:I am confused![[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 09:04, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
===After a night of sleep===
Alright. I now have an animal pit activity zone. Below it is a room with an S-bend corridor with three doors marked '''Passable''' (for dwarves only).
There are "several" animals in the pit.
My question: When I {{k|i}} on the zone, then {{k|P}}, does it show me the animals who have already been put in the pit or not? I would have thought it would be like a cage, showing all animals but putting a special character next to the ones already in the pit.[[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 21:01, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

::Unfortunately there is no way to tell if an animal has been placed in a pit. So when you assign animals to a pit, it is a one-shot thing only - a dwarf will pit the animal, then there will be no indication that the animal is there the next time you look at the list. It would be nice if we could designate areas as pits, where the areas would act as 'stockpiles' or 'cages' that track which animals are in them.[[User:Pavlov|Pavlov]] 04:46, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Trap

2008-08-16T13:34:37Z

Raumkraut: /* Trap betreyals? */

== Cage traps clarification ==

I think I know the answer, but are ANY sort of cages suitable for trapping any kind of invading monster (except those that evade traps altogether, such as kobalds). The page mentions a glass trap catching a colossus, but will that also apply to a rickety wooden trap? I haven't produced any glass. --[[User:RustyMcloon|Rusty Mcloon]] 06:18, 29 May 2008 (EDT)
:Yes. I've had a bronze colossus trapped in an Ashen Cage before. I don't think creatures care what you trap them in.--[[User:Dadamh|Dadamh]] 14:59, 29 May 2008 (EDT)

== cage traps for food ==
Couldn't one generate a mild supplementary food source by putting cage traps out on the map at random? Or create rows of them to catch aggressive creatures that are chasing down a fleeing dwarf. The ability to place them on the surface has some interesting possibilities. [[User:Kefkakrazy|Kefkakrazy]] 04:45, 4 November 2007 (EST)

: You can really do this with any kind of trap now - I built a 1 tile wide stair/corridor up an exposed cliff face, and as I was concerned about goblins and the like I stonefall-trapped it. Ever since then some of the local wildlife has used it to get up and down the 5 z-level cliff, with predictable and hilarious results. The goats just die, but the marmots are hurled off the cliff face to splatter on the ground below. It's a nice easy meat/leather/fat source, as well as being entertaining "Dwarfy McDwarf cancels reload stone trap - interrupted by (flying) hoary marmot" [[User:Acama|Acama]] 19:48, 20 December 2007 (EST)

==berserk dwarves==
Will berserk dwarves set off pressure plates? Toady mentioned he was going to stop that from happening [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 19:39, 4 November 2007 (EST)

On a possibly related note, pets CAN set off traps. Although in my experience the pet has to be falling unconscious to do so. [[User:Anonymousphrase|Anonymousphrase]] 22:43, 27 May 2008 (EDT)

[[image:Pet_setting_off_trap.png]]

It may also be the case that you can also get pets killed by a trap if they're in the square when a hostile sets off the trap. —[[User:Chaos|Chaos]] 12:42, 28 May 2008 (EDT)

==flooding a spiked pit==
Will flooding a spiked pit break or cancel the spike trap? I'd test this, but I don't have the channel dug in yet. --[[User:Xazak|Xazak]] 18:30, 5 November 2007 (EST)
:confirmed that flooding doesn't affect spear/spike traps. [[User:YayTheDwarves|YayTheDwarves]] 17:52, 6 January 2008 (EST)

I'm pretty sure the "corpse stuck in trap" chance is 50%, according to Toady either on IRC or some forgotten forum post a few months back. I really can't remember for sure. -[[User:EarthquakeDamage|EarthquakeDamage]] 02:31, 10 November 2007 (EST)

==cage traps/ fire imps==
I've secured the entries oy my magma furnaces with cage traps, but it seems that the fire imps just walk through.
Just as the Giant moles did. How so? --[[User:Doub|Doub]]
:supposedly there is a bug that causes any creatures on the map when it is generated to count as residents, and thus know where your traps are and not trigger them. I've never run into the problem myself, but I've never specifically tested for it so I can't really say for sure if it still exists (or ever did). --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 07:41, 6 January 2008 (EST)
:I had read about this and tried it out with a trapped coridoor next to my magma vent - an imp I tempted out walked right through 4 cage traps and 4 stonefall traps without triggering them. Seems like indigenous life is currently trap-immune. Most magma creatures can be dealt with by a few marksdwarves though, so you're only in serious trouble if you have a herd of skeletal hippos on your map on embark.--[[User:TangoThree|TangoThree]] 15:42, 19 January 2008 (EST)
::There's always the menacing spike + lever combo. And pits. [[User:Benitosimies|Benitosimies]] 16:08, 10 March 2008 (EDT)
::I've killed fire imps and magmamen with stone fall traps --[[User:Strangething|Strangething]] 01:20, 19 July 2008 (EDT)
:I've caught native fire imps in cage traps loaded with green glass terrariums. [[User:Rkyeun|Rkyeun]] 21:42, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

==Trolls and Cages==
I'm planning on making the only passage to my fortress filled with cage traps, but I'm not sure if dwarves going out and migrants and traders coming in will be affected by them. Does anyone know? Also, do trolls smash goblin cages? [[User:Patarak|Patarak]] 21:41, 23 January 2008 (EST)
:Only hostile units will trigger traps. Trolls only smash buildings and after a goblin is captured the cage is not built. So the answer to your second question is no. --[[User:Karlito|Karlito]] 21:45, 23 January 2008 (EST)
::Make sure to forbid the traps when the siege starts. Otherwise your dwarves will rush out to reload them and store all the cages. --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 22:53, 23 January 2008 (EST)

==Thieves and trap avoidance==
Is it possible that Kobold thieves/Goblin master thieves can also trigger traps? I think I killed one and caged another master thief in the past. Maybe the quality of the mechanism is important here? --[[User:Qwertyu|Qwertyu]] 13:24, 17 March 2008 (UTC+1)

:goblin thieves, both regular and master, have always triggered traps -[[User:Chariot|Chariot]] 14:18, 17 March 2008 (EDT)

::So why does the article then say "Sneaking enemies do not trigger traps"? Goblin master thieves seem very sneaky to me. --[[User:Qwertyu|Qwertyu]] 20:33 17 March 2008 (UTC+1)

:::once goblin thieves are revealed they are captured fine. even revealed kobolds dont trigger. -[[User:Chariot|Chariot]] 15:45, 17 March 2008 (EDT)
:::: At least "normal" goblin thieves are scewered fine without being detected, says my weapon trap --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 16:58, 17 March 2008 (EDT)
:::: I have to agree with Koltom, I got an "Ambush" event when a goblin (master) thief went into a cage trap, and had another one cut to pieces by a serrated disc, which I only noticed when suddenly all my dwarves rushed off to remove his clothes. --[[User Quertyu|Qwertyu]] 13:31 (UTC+1)
:::: Weapon traps apparently have a chance of friendly fire. At least, that's what the ghost of my Kitten(tame) told me... [[User:QMarx|QMarx]] 18:48, 13 April 2008 (EDT)

== Crossbow Trap? ==

How does a crossbow trap work? Does it have line of sight, like a Dwarf? {{Unsigned|Lordmick134}}

Ranged weapons in weapon traps work much the same as melee weapons do, attacking the creature which triggered the trap. The only real difference in functionality seems to be that they require and use up appropriate ammunition, and (according to the article) do not get occasionally stuck and need cleaning like melee weapons in a weapon trap do. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 21:31, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

== Trapping cave dwellers ==

Has anyone sucessfully caged a cave dwelling megabeast? I have tried on two seperate maps to capture a minotaur and an ettin, both times the monster just run right through the cage traps. Perhaps creatures that are spawned on embark are bugged immune to traps?

==Weapon Trap Jamming==
The page says crossbow weapon traps don't jam, but what about a trap with a crossbow and a melee weapon? Does the crossbow still fire if the trap jams? Or does a trap have to be pure crossbows to avoid jamming? --[[User:Strangething|Strangething]] 01:21, 19 July 2008 (EDT)

== Trap betreyals? ==

Has anyone else been betrayed by their own traps? I had a dog and a crossbowman killed by weapons traps. Serrated iron disks ripped through their bodies like the bloody tusks of enraged elephants.

Correction. A dog, a crossbowman, and a miner. Will the slaughter never end?--[[User:Amenos42|Amenos42]] 12:08, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

I've noticed that traps tend to fire on people/animals with injuries. They've killed lots of 3 legged dogs for me, and a soldier that was dragging himself off the field.

: Traps will (also) trip for any and all unconscious individuals. That may be or be one of the reasons. [[User:Drawf irons|Drawf irons]] 20:53, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

::Does that include dead individuals? And is it possible to get my dead dog out of his cage? --[[User:Groveller|Groveller]] 01:32, 14 August 2008 (EDT)

:::Mark it for dumping? That's usually the solution as to how to get anything out of anywhere! --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 09:34, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

== Cage Trap Question ==

I recently received the message that there was a goblin snatcher in my fortress. It zoomed the page to one of the 3 cage traps. I took the game off pause and it gave me the same message again. Now I have two cave traps sprung, and when I press "k" and go over them, one says : "goblin cage (Larch)" and the other says "Goblin cage(nickel)". Does this mean I have successfully caught the scoundrels? Or are they still at large?

:If there is a flashing 'g' then yes, if no than It could be possibly a bug.[[User:Hoborobo|Hoborobo]] 08:25, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

== Stone Fall Update: Watch Out!! ==

This is as of release '''0.28.181.39f''': in the past hour I saw two of my own dwarves - both normal healthy members of society - get killed in two different stone fall traps I'd had set up. Clearly, the old rule that dwarves are immune to their own traps is no longer entirely accurate...unless there's a bug going on here? Has anyone else fallen prey to this occurrence? [[User:Grand marquis|Grand marquis]] 06:31, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

:See two sections up. :P Anything unconscious will trigger traps currently - did those dwarves fall asleep on the trap square maybe? I've changed the section on triggering traps, so it gives at least a little hint that backfiring is now possible! --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 09:33, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Trap

2008-08-16T13:33:05Z

Raumkraut: /* Stone Fall Update: Watch Out!! */

== Cage traps clarification ==

I think I know the answer, but are ANY sort of cages suitable for trapping any kind of invading monster (except those that evade traps altogether, such as kobalds). The page mentions a glass trap catching a colossus, but will that also apply to a rickety wooden trap? I haven't produced any glass. --[[User:RustyMcloon|Rusty Mcloon]] 06:18, 29 May 2008 (EDT)
:Yes. I've had a bronze colossus trapped in an Ashen Cage before. I don't think creatures care what you trap them in.--[[User:Dadamh|Dadamh]] 14:59, 29 May 2008 (EDT)

== cage traps for food ==
Couldn't one generate a mild supplementary food source by putting cage traps out on the map at random? Or create rows of them to catch aggressive creatures that are chasing down a fleeing dwarf. The ability to place them on the surface has some interesting possibilities. [[User:Kefkakrazy|Kefkakrazy]] 04:45, 4 November 2007 (EST)

: You can really do this with any kind of trap now - I built a 1 tile wide stair/corridor up an exposed cliff face, and as I was concerned about goblins and the like I stonefall-trapped it. Ever since then some of the local wildlife has used it to get up and down the 5 z-level cliff, with predictable and hilarious results. The goats just die, but the marmots are hurled off the cliff face to splatter on the ground below. It's a nice easy meat/leather/fat source, as well as being entertaining "Dwarfy McDwarf cancels reload stone trap - interrupted by (flying) hoary marmot" [[User:Acama|Acama]] 19:48, 20 December 2007 (EST)

==berserk dwarves==
Will berserk dwarves set off pressure plates? Toady mentioned he was going to stop that from happening [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 19:39, 4 November 2007 (EST)

On a possibly related note, pets CAN set off traps. Although in my experience the pet has to be falling unconscious to do so. [[User:Anonymousphrase|Anonymousphrase]] 22:43, 27 May 2008 (EDT)

[[image:Pet_setting_off_trap.png]]

It may also be the case that you can also get pets killed by a trap if they're in the square when a hostile sets off the trap. —[[User:Chaos|Chaos]] 12:42, 28 May 2008 (EDT)

==flooding a spiked pit==
Will flooding a spiked pit break or cancel the spike trap? I'd test this, but I don't have the channel dug in yet. --[[User:Xazak|Xazak]] 18:30, 5 November 2007 (EST)
:confirmed that flooding doesn't affect spear/spike traps. [[User:YayTheDwarves|YayTheDwarves]] 17:52, 6 January 2008 (EST)

I'm pretty sure the "corpse stuck in trap" chance is 50%, according to Toady either on IRC or some forgotten forum post a few months back. I really can't remember for sure. -[[User:EarthquakeDamage|EarthquakeDamage]] 02:31, 10 November 2007 (EST)

==cage traps/ fire imps==
I've secured the entries oy my magma furnaces with cage traps, but it seems that the fire imps just walk through.
Just as the Giant moles did. How so? --[[User:Doub|Doub]]
:supposedly there is a bug that causes any creatures on the map when it is generated to count as residents, and thus know where your traps are and not trigger them. I've never run into the problem myself, but I've never specifically tested for it so I can't really say for sure if it still exists (or ever did). --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 07:41, 6 January 2008 (EST)
:I had read about this and tried it out with a trapped coridoor next to my magma vent - an imp I tempted out walked right through 4 cage traps and 4 stonefall traps without triggering them. Seems like indigenous life is currently trap-immune. Most magma creatures can be dealt with by a few marksdwarves though, so you're only in serious trouble if you have a herd of skeletal hippos on your map on embark.--[[User:TangoThree|TangoThree]] 15:42, 19 January 2008 (EST)
::There's always the menacing spike + lever combo. And pits. [[User:Benitosimies|Benitosimies]] 16:08, 10 March 2008 (EDT)
::I've killed fire imps and magmamen with stone fall traps --[[User:Strangething|Strangething]] 01:20, 19 July 2008 (EDT)
:I've caught native fire imps in cage traps loaded with green glass terrariums. [[User:Rkyeun|Rkyeun]] 21:42, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

==Trolls and Cages==
I'm planning on making the only passage to my fortress filled with cage traps, but I'm not sure if dwarves going out and migrants and traders coming in will be affected by them. Does anyone know? Also, do trolls smash goblin cages? [[User:Patarak|Patarak]] 21:41, 23 January 2008 (EST)
:Only hostile units will trigger traps. Trolls only smash buildings and after a goblin is captured the cage is not built. So the answer to your second question is no. --[[User:Karlito|Karlito]] 21:45, 23 January 2008 (EST)
::Make sure to forbid the traps when the siege starts. Otherwise your dwarves will rush out to reload them and store all the cages. --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 22:53, 23 January 2008 (EST)

==Thieves and trap avoidance==
Is it possible that Kobold thieves/Goblin master thieves can also trigger traps? I think I killed one and caged another master thief in the past. Maybe the quality of the mechanism is important here? --[[User:Qwertyu|Qwertyu]] 13:24, 17 March 2008 (UTC+1)

:goblin thieves, both regular and master, have always triggered traps -[[User:Chariot|Chariot]] 14:18, 17 March 2008 (EDT)

::So why does the article then say "Sneaking enemies do not trigger traps"? Goblin master thieves seem very sneaky to me. --[[User:Qwertyu|Qwertyu]] 20:33 17 March 2008 (UTC+1)

:::once goblin thieves are revealed they are captured fine. even revealed kobolds dont trigger. -[[User:Chariot|Chariot]] 15:45, 17 March 2008 (EDT)
:::: At least "normal" goblin thieves are scewered fine without being detected, says my weapon trap --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 16:58, 17 March 2008 (EDT)
:::: I have to agree with Koltom, I got an "Ambush" event when a goblin (master) thief went into a cage trap, and had another one cut to pieces by a serrated disc, which I only noticed when suddenly all my dwarves rushed off to remove his clothes. --[[User Quertyu|Qwertyu]] 13:31 (UTC+1)
:::: Weapon traps apparently have a chance of friendly fire. At least, that's what the ghost of my Kitten(tame) told me... [[User:QMarx|QMarx]] 18:48, 13 April 2008 (EDT)

== Crossbow Trap? ==

How does a crossbow trap work? Does it have line of sight, like a Dwarf? {{Unsigned|Lordmick134}}

Ranged weapons in weapon traps work much the same as melee weapons do, attacking the creature which triggered the trap. The only real difference in functionality seems to be that they require and use up appropriate ammunition, and (according to the article) do not get occasionally stuck and need cleaning like melee weapons in a weapon trap do. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 21:31, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

== Trapping cave dwellers ==

Has anyone sucessfully caged a cave dwelling megabeast? I have tried on two seperate maps to capture a minotaur and an ettin, both times the monster just run right through the cage traps. Perhaps creatures that are spawned on embark are bugged immune to traps?

==Weapon Trap Jamming==
The page says crossbow weapon traps don't jam, but what about a trap with a crossbow and a melee weapon? Does the crossbow still fire if the trap jams? Or does a trap have to be pure crossbows to avoid jamming? --[[User:Strangething|Strangething]] 01:21, 19 July 2008 (EDT)

== Trap betreyals? ==

Has anyone else been betrayed by their own traps? I had a dog and a crossbowman killed by weapons traps. Serrated iron disks ripped through their bodies like the bloody tusks of enraged elephants.

Correction. A dog, a crossbowman, and a miner. Will the slaughter never end?--[[User:Amenos42|Amenos42]] 12:08, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

I've noticed that traps tend to fire on people/animals with injuries. They've killed lots of 3 legged dogs for me, and a soldier that was dragging himself off the field.

: Traps will (also) trip for any and all unconscious individuals. That may be or be one of the reasons. [[User:Drawf irons|Drawf irons]] 20:53, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

::Does that include dead individuals? And is it possible to get my dead dog out of his cage? --[[User:Groveller|Groveller]] 01:32, 14 August 2008 (EDT)

== Cage Trap Question ==

I recently received the message that there was a goblin snatcher in my fortress. It zoomed the page to one of the 3 cage traps. I took the game off pause and it gave me the same message again. Now I have two cave traps sprung, and when I press "k" and go over them, one says : "goblin cage (Larch)" and the other says "Goblin cage(nickel)". Does this mean I have successfully caught the scoundrels? Or are they still at large?

:If there is a flashing 'g' then yes, if no than It could be possibly a bug.[[User:Hoborobo|Hoborobo]] 08:25, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

== Stone Fall Update: Watch Out!! ==

This is as of release '''0.28.181.39f''': in the past hour I saw two of my own dwarves - both normal healthy members of society - get killed in two different stone fall traps I'd had set up. Clearly, the old rule that dwarves are immune to their own traps is no longer entirely accurate...unless there's a bug going on here? Has anyone else fallen prey to this occurrence? [[User:Grand marquis|Grand marquis]] 06:31, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

:See two sections up. :P Anything unconscious will trigger traps currently - did those dwarves fall asleep on the trap square maybe? I've changed the section on triggering traps, so it gives at least a little hint that backfiring is now possible! --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 09:33, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

40d:Trap

2008-08-16T13:30:25Z

Raumkraut: Trap trigger tract

(For traps used to catch [[vermin]], see [[animal trap]]).

'''Traps''' are a reliable and cost-effective method for defending any fortress. Unlike [[soldier]]s, they're always on duty, and don't need to be carefully managed. On the other hand, they are immobile and can only lie in wait for foes to walk over them. To build a trap, go to the {{k|b}}uild->Traps/Levers menu. You'll generally need one [[mechanism]], and at least one other component depending on the type of trap. They can be built indoors or outdoors, and require a level ground square with no other constructions in them.

Stone-fall, weapon and cage traps will be triggered by any hostile entity entering their tile, with the exception of [[kobold]] [[thief|thieves]]. Additionally, '''any''' unconscious creature, including your own [[dwarves]]; [[pet]]s and [[war dog]]s, will also set off such a trap.

==Stone-fall Trap==
The simplest trap to construct, a stone-fall trap is essentially a [[stone]] suspended up in the air which is dropped on intruders when the trap is triggered. These are a popular defensive measure early on, as the components needed are readily available as soon as you start mining. A single stone trap will kill or severely maim most [[humanoid]] enemies although [[troll]]s, [[magma_man|magmamen]] and hardier creatures may take two or three to drop. Mythical creatures such as [[dragon]]s, [[hydra]]s and [[titan]]s will take upwards of five or six. After being used they need to be reloaded with another stone by any [[dwarf]] with [[mechanic]] [[skill]] enabled, a task which your dwarves will see to automatically.
:Shortcut {{k|s}}
:Components used: [[mechanism]] and an ordinary [[stone]]

==Weapon Trap==
Weapon traps consist of any number of deadly instruments rigged to a mechanism. When an intruder sets off the trap, the [[weapons]] spring out and strike the poor sap. You can add up to 10 weapons to a weapon trap, and they will all attack together when set off. This gives the potential for dealing significant amounts of damage at once. There are also special giant weapon parts you can build that are specially designed for use in weapon traps. Unlike stone-fall traps, weapon traps automatically reset after being triggered, ready to splatter the intruder's friends. But there is a (20%?)chance that the trap will become jammed each time it is triggered. A nearby dwarf will automatically clean a jammed trap; this does not require the [[cleaning]] labor. If there are weapons that require ammunition in the trap, they will also have to be reloaded occasionally. Weapon traps using [[bow]]s or [[crossbow]]s will not require cleaning but do use [[ammo]].

Weapon traps are a nice way of getting rid of any cheap, mediocre captured weapons, [[wood]]en weapons you don't need for sparring and weapons your dwarves can't use. Due to the bundling of weapons you don't have to worry much about the minor damage they would cause separate. there is no difference between low quality crossbows(wood,bone, copper) and high quality steel and adamant crossbows-the metal only changes their effectiveness in melee. Thus wooden crossbows at the bowyer make for easy to produce trap weapons.

:Shortcut {{k|w}}
:Components used: [[mechanism]] and whatever [[weapon]]s you want, up to ten.

==Cage Trap==
Cage traps capture creatures that set them off in [[cage]]s. After a creature is captured, it's stored, cage and all, in an animal [[stockpile]]. Then the trap is reloaded with another cage. You can do all sorts of fun things with [[captured creatures]]. Creatures in cages will not be fed, they will survive indefinitely without nourishment.
It is possible that dwarves bring [[water]] to cages, but that means that you have someone friendly also locked in the cage - like a dwarf [[child|kid]] snatched by a [[goblin]] babysnatcher. In this case remove the poor fellow using the goblin's inventory screen.
A Cage trap is one of the most effective ways to defeat powerful beasts, as even a [[glass]] cage (aquarium/terrarium) can imprison a [[Bronze Colossus]]. This is expected to be changed.
:Shortcut {{k|c}}
:Components used: [[mechanism]] and a [[cage]].

:'''NOTE:''' This trap will not catch [[vermin]]. For that, you need an [[animal trap]].

==Upright Spear/Spike==
These traps can only be utilized by attaching them to [[lever]]s or [[pressure plate]]s, which when triggered will cause the [[spike]]s to extend from the ground and, when triggered again, to retract back into the ground. They don't slow or hurt any creature walking through them if they are not currently triggered by a lever/plate, neither when up nor when retracted.

The lever task can be set to repeat which makes the spikes go up and down, but there is a high chance a creature will pass the spike trap before or after they shoot up, so you may want to build a row of at least 5 traps.

The damage done depends, like with weapon traps, on the number and quality of the [[spear]]s and spikes used. The fact that they do piercing damage makes them useful against more powerful foes which are most easily killed by damaging their organs.

Spikes will, when triggered, damage creatures unaffected by other traps (kobold thieves and demons, but also dwarves and allied creatures). The traps' friendly fire means they make effective anti-[[immigrant]] traps. There are also reports that the spikes are effective against [[demons]], although spikes which are not made of [[steel]] may melt.

Contrary to what one might think, the spikes appear to do no (additional) damage if a creature falls on them - there is therefore no advantage to putting the spikes at the bottom of a pit trap and you still have to connect them to a lever or pressure plate to cause injury.

Stuff does get stuck in spikes when they are triggered - any [[corpse]]s will appear as an item inside a spike's 'building' when they are out (the same way [[mug]]s and whatnot appear inside [[workshop]]s when you first make them). Retracting the spikes lets the corpse out.

:Shortcut {{k|S}} (capitalized)
:Components used: A [[mechanism]] for the [[lever]] or [[pressure plate]] and [[spear]]s or [[spike]]s.

==Other Traps==
You can create even more elaborate traps with imaginative use of pits, pressure plates, levers, [[grate]]s, [[support]]s, [[water]], [[magma]], and whatever else you can think of. Watching those goblins try to find a way out of your drowning chamber as it begins to fill is really quite satisfying.

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40d Talk:Engraving

2008-08-16T13:15:53Z

Raumkraut: Toggled engravings differentiation

I started a general page on engraving, mostly to point out that it appears possible to smooth tiles containing ore, since they have been placed in the category of stone now. Haven't tried it on gems, but I'm quite giddy about being able to make an aesthetically pleasing fortress in the middle of an ore vein finally.

:Yes, ore is now exactly the same as regular stone, so it can be smoothed just fine. Make for MUCH nicer fort designs then before. I am not 100% sure but I think gems work the same way too. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 03:49, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

Note also that rewalling allows for even more aesthetic possibility. And you can extract the ore or gem from a wall and then rebuild it with less useful material.
:Except you can't engrave rewalls. --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 17:10, 24 April 2008 (EDT)

::Actually, you can - I did it accidentally when I was smoothing out a plateau for one of my round towers (the fort was called that, might as well put some round towers in :P). Also added in a channel and they did their job before the lazy engraver could haul his arse to do his. In time, I put up a rewall and came back later to find the top of my rewall engraved with blazing suns, dwarves etc. Kinda confused me when I first saw it tho --[[User:Frostedfire|Frostedfire]] 09:57, 25 April 2008 (EDT)
:::Did you construct these rewalls on top of an engraved floor? That gives the walls the appearance of engraving, but I don't know if it counts as an engraved wall for room value purposes. --[[User:zombiejustice|zombiejustice]] 00:41 2 June 2008 (CDT)

I hit {{K|k}} and everything, looked at my wall, and all it said was "Detailed Obsidian Wall." It doesn't work when I make the walls look like regular walls with lines on them or when I make them have the funky little symbols. My fortress is quite young, but I heard that the engraver can just use his imagination and stuff. What's wrong? --[[User:Penguinofhonor|Penguinofhonor]] 19:55, 14 November 2007 (EST)
:Hit {{K|k}} and then hit {{K|Enter}}.

Does the type of stone affect Dwarf happiness? Are they happier if their room contains a golden engraved wall? Or even a granite one? And what about the floor? I've just cleaned out a gold vein and I'm thinking about rewalling it into a dinning hall to take advantage of the gold floor. --[[User:Malenfant|Malenfant]] 11:34, 26 November 2007 (EST)
:[http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=000691 Draxxalon's study] suggests that the stone does have an effect. --[[User:Kingzilla|Kingzilla]] 22:24, 12 December 2007 (EST)

I'm doing a little studying on the architecture value of smoothing/engraving for the current tournament. As far as I can tell, a smoothed wall is worth 8 monies, a smoothed floor is worth 6 monies, and the base value of an engraving is 10 (so an *engraving* is worth 40). The value *DOES NOT* depend on the type of stone, you get the same bonuses even if you smooth/engrave ore. And of course while engravings do have quality, smoothing does not. --[[User:Sowelu|Sowelu]] 17:20, 12 April 2008 (EDT)

:At one point I noticed a tiny room had an astronomical rent value - turns out the walls were native aluminum (that the game never announced for some reason, and i'd smoothed them without noticing). I mined out the ore and rewalled and the rent dropped substantially. So I'd say ore value matters quite a bit, at least for walls --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 17:10, 24 April 2008 (EDT)

::Had same thing but with gem floor. About 5 tiles of some x10 value gem floor increased rent from ~2300 (minor noble room) to ~8000. --[[User:Someone-else|Someone-else]] 15:10, 25 April 2008 (EDT)

== Quality engravings tell more history ==

When I had my dwarves engrave the history in my story I wrote earlier, they weren't very skilled at engraving. Though my entire fortress had been burnt up by spirits of fire and attacked by goblins a couple years back, only two of thirty engravings depicted a demon and had a story along with it. There were about thirty engravings done, and only three were well-crafted. The three well-crafted included the two about demons, and one that had a fact about my mayor being elected in 1051. The rest, which were normal quality were of pointless designs and creatures never encountered. Quality plays a major role in what is shown in the engraving. I'll add a section about this, does someone know if higher qualities like masterful depict even more?--[[User:Richards|Richards]] 16:51, 24 April 2008 (EDT)
:I have no desire to savescum and abandon, but I do find that generic dwarf enrgavings tend to be less quality. --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMario]] 17:10, 24 April 2008 (EDT)
::I checked it out a few times, there's no difference in the history of masterful engravings then there were in well-crafted ones. The only exception is unskillful engravings, they don't tell anything. So it's confirmed then. --[[User:Richards|Richards]] 08:42, 25 April 2008 (EDT)

== Types of stone ==
I'm pressing {{K|d}} then {{K|e}} and selecting an area, then pressing {{K|Enter}}. But it's not seeming to do anything in most bits of my fortress. (I find this with smoothing as well.) Could this be because they're mudstone? Does engraving only work in certain types of rock? It'd be good to clarify this somewhere. --[[User:AlexChurchill|AlexChurchill]] 08:28, 29 May 2008 (EDT)

== Engraving Constructed Walls ==

Why can't constructed walls/floors be designated for engraving? Has Toady said anything specific about this, or is it just something we have to deal with? --[[User:Rakankou|Rakankou]] 00:15, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
:Have you tried smoothing them first? I think they have to be smoothed first, they also must be made out of stone. [[User:Magikarcher|Magikarcher]] 02:13, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
::Constructed walls also can't be designated for smoothing. --[[User:Rakankou|Rakankou]] 03:39, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

== Toggled engravings differentiation ==

I noticed in a previous fort (in a previous version) that engraved walls, once I'd toggled off their display, were a different shade to the ones that had only been smoothed. I believe it was smoothed basalt (dark grey), and the engravings were lighter - either mid-grey or white. Can anyone confirm? --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 09:15, 16 August 2008 (EDT)

40d:Engraving

2008-08-16T13:07:24Z

Raumkraut: miscellaneous minor modifications

'''Engraving''' [[smoothing|smooth]] [[wall]]s and [[floor]]s will increase the value of a [[room]]. This is done by dwarves with the [[Stone Detailing]] skill.
Engravings may cause [[happy thought]]s, and are a good way to keep a record of the fort's [[Legends|history]].

== Engraving an area ==
# Press {{K|d}} to open the designate menu.
# Press {{K|e}} to select "Engrave Stone".
# Move the cursor to a position on or near a wall and press {{K|enter}}.
# The spot you marked changes to a blinking green "+" indicating where the area you wish to engrave extends from.
# Move the cursor to any position, across the area you wish to engrave and press {{K|enter}} again.
# The wall tiles in the area you defined should blink with a light blue regular pattern.
# Wait for a dwarf to engrave the stone on the walls.

== Art quality ==
Engraved surfaces raise the [[value]] of [[room]]s, depending on the quality of the engraving. The value of smooth and engraved walls is considered "Architecture" under the "Fortress [[Wealth]]" table. Quality affects what is inscribed on an engraving. Normal-quality engravings will never have the history of your fortress on them, and are usually about random things in the world. Engravings made with a quality of well-crafted and up will often contain pieces of historical information about your fortress' past. Engravers are inspired by the history of your fort and will use them in the engraving. Like when your [[axedwarf]] bravely held a crucial part of the fort and slew some [[goblin]]s, your engravers can make a graven image of it.

Engravings can be viewed by pressing {{K|k}}, moving the cursor over the engraved area, using the {{K|+}} or {{K|-}} keys to move down to the engraving and pressing enter. [[Adventurer]]s are also able to view these by revisiting your old fortress (use {{K|l}} to look around, then {{K|a}} over an engraving you want to look at), and will see a much more detailed description of the engraved happening. The art and the story behind the engraving will show up in the [[legends]] mode.

== Toggle engravings ==
Engraved walls and floors are represented by default with pictures on a gray background, making it sometimes difficult to differentiate between them. It is possible to display engraved surfaces as smooth ones with the "toggle engraving" option (but then you will not differentiate between engraved and smooth surfaces).

To change the display of individual engravings in-game, select "Toggle Engraving" in the designation menu ({{K|d}}-{{K|v}}) and select the area you wish to display differently (this has no effect on gameplay).

The display default is set in the [[init]] file line '''[ENGRAVINGS_START_OBSCURED:NO]'''. Replacing '''NO''' by '''YES''' will cause new engravings to show as smooth surfaces.

== Art defacement ==
A [[Quality|masterful]] engraving that is destroyed or defaced ([[magma]], [[water]] and [[goblin]]s do the job nicely, though fluids will only destroy floor engravings) may cause the [[engraver]] to [[tantrum]].
[[Category:Designations]]

40d:River

2008-08-12T02:57:16Z

Raumkraut: Style; we don't need struck-out sections - that's what the history is for!

== Surface Rivers ==

'''Rivers''' are found on the surface of world maps. They vary in width and depth, some being more wide and some being more deep than others. They often flow through deep canyons or just across the flat surface of a level. On levels with [[cliff]]s, [[waterfall|waterfalls]] may be found.

'''Major rivers, Minor rivers, Streams and Brooks'''''

On the surface of the world you can find four different types of rivers.

*Major Rivers are distinguished by a "=" as opposed to a "-". Some worlds have no Major Rivers so they can be considered quite valuable. Usually they have minor river tributaries and can often feed large [[lake]]s. Major rivers are much wider than regular rivers. Besides this, the difference (if any) between major and minor rivers has yet to be discovered. However major rivers are believed to lower the fps.

*Minor Rivers are dark blue and usually have tributaries of brooks.

*Streams are light blue and often converge with other streams, and have some tributaries of brooks.

*[[Brook]]s are not visible on the region map. They are the smallest flowing body of [[water]] that can be found ingame. Brooks have a special water designation, [[dwarves]] and other units are capable of walking through a brook. Brooks are very common, almost every tile around a stream or larger river will have a brook running through it.

[[Image:Watersystems01.jpg|298px|thumb|Different sorts of rivers in action]]

== Underground Rivers ==

An underground river is, obviously, a river found [[underground]]. They can be located on the embarkation map through use of the [[site finder]].

If your site has a cave river, [[tower-cap]]s will start sprouting in [[soil]] or [[mud]]dy caverns. You can use it as the basis of an [[underground forest]] operation.

It is also possible to find cave rivers or pools which are actually visible from the surface - you may even see a few [[tower-cap]]s growing on the surface. This may be rather rare, however, and cannot be spotted from site-selection. (You can tell it's a cave river/pool because of the frogmen or what-have-you in it)

== Other Important Facts ==

*Rivers presumably contain an unlimited amount of water and cannot be drained. They can, however, be dammed if you can *temporarily* drain part of them to 1/7 or less for long enough to install [[floodgate]]s. For some reason, rivers will not overflow floodgates which are blocking them. The water just... stops. This demonstrates one way to drain and dam a river: [http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-196-draininganddammingamajorriver-i]. Another way to dam a river is to direct a lava flow into it, producing obsidian in the squares where it encounters water.
*Rivers often contain an abundance of [[fishing|fish]], including highly dangerous dwarf-killing fish such as [[carp]], [[pike]], [[longnose gar]], etc.
*See [[water]].

{{World}}

[[Category:Map tiles]][[category:Water bodies]][[Category:World]]

40d:Stone detailing

2008-08-12T02:53:25Z

Raumkraut: Style

'''Stone Detailing''' is the labor required to [[smooth]] and [[engrave]] [[stone]] floors and walls, and to create [[fortifications]]. Detailing will increase room value but is considered a time consuming process by some, compared to other tasks. The surface must be smoothed first, and can then be designated to be engraved or made into a fortification. It is not possible to engrave [[Construction|constructed]] walls and floors.

Engraving is a purely optional task, not necessary for survival. It is however an easy way to add value to a room and, for highly trained engravers, can depict events from the history of your fort.

40d Talk:Tree

2008-08-12T02:49:22Z

Raumkraut: Deciduousness

So what's the deal with named trees near elf settlements? They seem to stop a short distance from the location of the closest elf. I think I accidentally cut one down, but the elves haven't responded. [[User:Dolohov|Dolohov]] 10:48, 12 November 2007 (EST)

== Underground tree farm ==

Well, out of fear of goblin ambushes... and many dead dwarfs later. I decided to make my very own tree farm. Ive got it working, and theres trees growing, but there are rocks all over the place. Do I need to move these rocks to be able to designate these trees to be cut down? I would prefer not to move these 3 or 400 rocks, but what must be done, must be done. --Wafl
:You do have to move the rocks. You can use the Designate Dump [[Macros_and_keymaps|AutoHotkey script]] to quickly dump a large area of stone, though. --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMario]] 00:17, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

== Grow Time ==
In my current fortress, I've deforested the map. Then after it I dried the pools. This was in summer of 1055. Now is the late spring of 1057 and I have full-grown Mahogany in one of the pools. It matured in less than two years! Need to check this--[[User:Dorten|Dorten]] 08:27, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

Do items produced from different tree's wood have different value? Are there more valuable trees than others? --[[User:DDouble|DDouble]] 20:27, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
:I'm pretty sure all wood is equally valuable. But different woods have different weights, feather tree wood being extremely light. --[[User:Bouchart|Bouchart]] 21:07, 17 April 2008 (EDT)

== Growing trees in soil ==

I watered my stone in order to get trees to grow, but trees are not growing in my soil. Do I need to water the soil?--[[User:Wafl|Wafl]] 11:38, 18 April 2008 (EDT)
:Trees will not grow inside your fortress, unless you channel out the ceiling. If you want to make wood inside your fort you need to embark on a map with cave river or cave lake. When you discover them all non-smoothed muddied natural floor tiles will have a chance to spawn tower cap sapling. They don't need to be muddied with water from this underground feature, any mud will do. Channeling aboveground river underground won't create trees. To find underground water you can use regional prospector utility, it works very well. --[[User:Someone-else|Someone-else]] 15:15, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

== Magma resistance ==

Trees resist magma like they do resist water. Shouldn't that be included in the article? --[[User:Someone-else|Someone-else]] 15:16, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

== Colored Trees ==

In the current version df_28_181_39f trees are changing color. On my map I have seen many trees go from the normal green color they have to yellow and orange. None of the trees were of that color when I first embarked so perhaps age has something to do with it.[[User:Mission0|Mission0]] 02:14, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

:And have you taken note of what season it is, when these trees change colour? :) --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 03:24, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

:: The trees don't all change color at the same time. I've even watched trees of the same type change color at different times. I'm still in my first year and just now hit Winter. All the Trees are Orange now.[[User:Mission0|Mission0]] 12:40, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
:: You may be right, the trees that changed color turned into leafless trees when the winter hit.

== Deciduousness ==

I'm assuming that the "Autumnal" heading in the table was referring to trees whose leaves change colour in the autumn. I've changed the heading to "Deciduous", because as far as I am aware "Autumnal" is used to describe a tree currently undergoing the colour change, rather than a tree which is capable of it. Fun with pedantry! --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 22:49, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

40d:Tree

2008-08-12T02:46:35Z

Raumkraut: Deciduousness

Across the world, '''trees''' can found littering the landscape. They are a great renewable source of [[wood]], and there are many different varieties that grow in different [[biomes]]. While [[tower cap]]s grow indoors, every other variety occurs only outdoors.

''Trees'' are a type of [[map tile]], not [[construction]]s, similar to solid [[rock]] or [[bush]]es. They must be designated for removal from the [[designations|{{Key|d}}esignations menu]] chop {{k|t}}rees, which will instruct dwarves with the woodcutter skill to grab an [[axe]] and begin chopping down the tree.

Trees grow from saplings, which start growing randomly on tiles of a suitable biome. Saplings can be destroyed by heavy [[traffic]]. To grow from a sapling to a tree takes three years.

Trees viewed from one tile above look like coloured stone blocks floating in the air. Also, deciduous trees will change colour to red or yellow in autumn, and lose their leaves in winter.

Trees also gain names near elven settlements. Although it is unclear what effect this has on gameplay, if any at all.

== List of Trees ==

{| class="wikitable" cellspacing="0" border="1" cellpadding="5"
|-
! Tree Name
| '''Habitat''' || '''Tile''' || '''Alignment''' || '''Density''' || '''Deciduous'''
|-
! Mangrove
| Mangrove Swamp (Wet) || bgcolor="black" align="center" | ♣ || All || Default || No
|-
! Saguaro
| Any Desert (Dry) || bgcolor="black" align="center" | ╞ || All || Default || No
|-
! Pine
| Taiga Forest (Dry) Temperate Conifer Forest Tropical Conifer Forest || bgcolor="black" align="center" | ↑ || All || 560 || No
|-
! Cedar
| Temperate Conifer Forest (Dry) Tropical Conifer Forest || bgcolor="black" align="center" | ↨ || All || 380 || No
|-
! Oak
| Any Temperate Broadleaf Forest (Dry) || bgcolor="black" align="center" | ♠ || All || 700 || Yes
|-
! Mahogany
| Any Tropical Forest (Dry) || bgcolor="black" align="center" | ♠ || All || 600 || No
|-
! Acacia
| Tropical Dry Broadleaf Forest (Dry) Tropical Grassland Tropical Savanna Tropical Shrubland || bgcolor="black" align="center" | ♣ || All || Default || No
|-
! Kapok
| Tropical Moist Broadleaf Forest (Dry) || bgcolor="black" align="center" | Γ || All || Default || No
|-
! Maple
| Temperate Broadleaf Forest (Dry) Temperate Grassland Temperate Savanna Temperate Shrubland || bgcolor="black" align="center" | ♣ || All || 755 || Yes
|-
! Willow
| Any Temperate (Wet) Any Tropical Forest Tropical Grassland Tropical Savanna Tropical Shrubland Tropical Freshwater Swamp Tropical Saltwater Swamp Tropical Freshwater Marsh Tropical Saltwater Marsh || bgcolor="black" align="center" | ⌠ || All || 420 || No
|-
! [[Tower-cap]]
| Subterranean Water (Wet)(Dry) || bgcolor="black" align="center" | ♣ || All || 600 || No
|-
! Glumprong
| Not Freezing (Dry) || bgcolor="black" align="center" | ┤ || Evil || 1200 || No
|-
! Feather tree
| Not Freezing (Dry) || bgcolor="black" align="center" | ♣ || Good || 100 || No
|-
! Highwood
| Not Freezing (Dry) || bgcolor="black" align="center" | ¶ || Savage || 500 || No
|-
! Larch
| Taiga Forest (Dry) Temperate Conifer Forest || bgcolor="black" align="center" | ↑ || All || 590 || Yes
|-
! Chestnut
| Any Temperate Broadleaf Forest (Dry) || bgcolor="black" align="center" | ♠ || All || 500 || Yes
|-
! Alder
| Any Temperate Broadleaf Forest (Dry) || bgcolor="black" align="center" | ♣ || All || 410 || Yes
|-
! Birch
| Any Temperate Broadleaf Forest (Dry) || bgcolor="black" align="center" | ♣ || All || 670 || Yes
|-
! Ash
| Any Temperate Broadleaf Forest (Dry) || bgcolor="black" align="center" | ♠ || All || 620 || Yes
|-
! Candlenut
| Any Tropical Forest (Dry) || bgcolor="black" align="center" | Γ || All || Default || No
|-
! Mango tree
| Any Tropical Forest (Dry) || bgcolor="black" align="center" | Γ || All || Default || No
|-
! Rubber tree
| Tropical Moist Broadleaf Forest (Dry) || bgcolor="black" align="center" | Γ || All || Default || No
|-
! Cacao tree
| Tropical Moist Broadleaf Forest (Dry) || bgcolor="black" align="center" | Γ || All || Default || No
|-
! Palm
| Any Tropical (Dry) || bgcolor="black" align="center" | Γ || All || Default || No
|}

[[Category:Map tiles]][[Category:Trees]]

40d Talk:Tree

2008-08-11T07:24:20Z

Raumkraut: /* Colored Trees */

40d:Your first fortress

2008-08-10T21:56:44Z

Raumkraut: Rewording info on patient merchants

This is a guide to help new players get started on their first [[fortress]] and teach them the basics of keeping their [[dwarves]] alive. If you have unanswered questions or find given details confusing, please tell us so on the [[Talk:Your_first_fortress|discussion page]]! Above all else, always remember the [[Dwarf Fortress]] motto: "Losing is fun!"

We discuss generating a world, choosing a fortress location, buying [[skill]]s and items, and playing the first month or so. Setting game initialization options is covered in [[technical tricks]]. The advice here is biased for safety; with a little experience you'll do better with strategies customized for your play style and preferred start locations. It is also deliberately terse. For more extended treatment of particular subjects, consult the linked pages or the rest of the Dwarf Fortress Wiki.

== Generating a world ==

The first thing you'll want to do when starting Dwarf Fortress is [[World generation |create a world]]. You have two options: Create a fractally-generated random world or re-create one of the [[pregenerated worlds]] using a specific seed.

However, for new players it is recommended that you create a random world using the '''STANDARD''' template, so just hit {{k|Enter}} to continue. The engine will then start to create a random world for you. You might notice that worlds are rejected before the engine continues with rivers and lakes. The rejections are normal engine behaviour, since it rejects the random generated world if it doesn't meet certain criteria.

Generating a random world with the standard template may take a long time on most machines. If you want to jump right into playing, you should probably choose Design New World with Parameters instead of Create New World Now! and pick a small or pocket-sized world instead of a standard-sized world.

(Once you've gotten down the basics, you can return to the world generation screen and experiment with all of the options and create a world using one of the other techniques mentioned above.)

See the article on [[world generation]] for a complete guide to the world generation screen.

== Choosing a location ==

=== The interface ===

If you have at least one world without an active fortress, you will be able to choose "Start Playing" from the main menu. Chose "Dwarf Fortress" and you'll see a four-section window looking something like:

[[Image:FortressLocation_fd2f10.png | caption | This picture is shown with the default tileset. Other [[tilesets]] are available]]

You can move around the region map with {{k|←}}{{k|↑}}{{k|→}}{{k|↓}}, or at 10x speed with {{k|Shift}}+{{k|←}}{{k|↑}}{{k|→}}{{k|↓}}. The region map is immense, at the default size, so there is also a world map that shows you where you are in the world.

Your next goal will be choosing the starting location for your fortress.

=== Your surroundings ===

You can discern a lot of information by scrolling through the various modes. The interface has five modes which you cycle through by pressing {{k|TAB}}. In turn, they display:

# [[Temperature]], amount of [[tree]]s, amount of [[plant]]s, and a hint at the sort of [[Animal|wildlife]] at the center of the selection rectangle.
#* Look at the example picture again. Notice that you are told that you'll see no trees or plants here ([[mountain]]s being too high for either to grow), but that's only true for the exact center of the local area.
#* You'll notice that the local area includes some tress and plants on the edges, which is often all you need.
#* To get more information about the non-mountain areas you can press {{k|F1}} {{k|F2}} {{k|F3}} or {{k|F4}} to view the different types of [[biomes]].
# Nearby [[civilization]]s that are capable of interacting with you. Other settlements are shown with various symbols on the regional map.
#* You will want to be in contact with dwarves to get [[immigrant]]s and a dwarven trading caravan. However, dwarves are, sometimes seemingly magically, everywhere - it is impossible to settle anywhere without dwarves {{ver|0.27.176.38c}}
#*You'll want to trade with [[human]]s and [[elves]] if possible.
#*[[Goblin]]s mean trouble, but it's hard to avoid them without hiding on an island and you will be attacked by Goblins some point in the game anyway. Just don't set up your first fortress right on top of a goblin fort.
# Your dwarven civilization. Your choice of civilization may have an effect on [[trade]] and [[immigration]].{{verify}}
#* For instance, one civilization might have access to certain [[meat]], whereas another might not. Ignore this for now.
# Relative [[elevation]]. This is a normal topographic map that you're used to from real-life maps.
# [[Slope]] steepness. This shows you where large cliffs are.
# These final two modes let you guess at the shape of the land. Try to avoid [[cliff]]s of 4 or more, as the taller maps take a lot more computer power to run. On the other hand, flat areas are boring - a good elevation map contains lots of low elevation changes ranging from 1 to 4.

==== Location, Location, Location ====

For your first fortress, it's not entirely important. However, there are some general guidelines that can help you decide:

* Lots of trees and vegetation are good for producing food and lumber for your fortress.
* Running water = permanent source of water. Lakes and pools have a finite amount of water and may dry out.
* A temperate climate is one that experiences all four seasons. '''Hot''' and '''Freezing''' climates take those temperatures to the extreme. Just like in the real world, it is more difficult to sustain life (and therefore, your fortress) in these conditions.

* Try to stay away from locations that are labeled "terrifying." Also, starting out in the middle of a goblin fortress is not a good idea.
* Magma is nice, but not necessary. And with magma comes Magma men and other such frightful creatures.
* Areas with [[Aquifers]] require some engineering to get to rock. You'll be warned if you chose an area with an aquifer. When in doubt, don't try it.
* Who cares? If you like what you see, go for it. You can always start over. And remember the DF motto: Losing is fun!

The following are things you'll probably want to ensure you have access to for a mature fortress:

* A [[Sedimentary layer]] - lets face it, a dwarven fortress without iron is going to have it pretty rough if it intends to make a military. And while hematite can occur in some igneous layers, magnetite and limonite only occur in sedimentary, and magnetite occurs in much greater quantities than the other two. Further, you will have no access to coal without sedimentary rocks, and if you chose a site without magma you will need coal to have a smoothly running metal industry - burning trees for fuel is less efficient and while manageable if you have lots of wood, it is more burdensome.
* [[Flux]] - marble, dolomite, limestone, and chalk are all layer forming stones and will show up on the embark screen as a stone layer. The last 3 are also sedimentary - nifty! Calcite, the only other flux stone, only appears within other flux stones. If you don't see one of these layers, you won't have flux, and your ability to produce steel will be extremely limited.
* [[Sand]] - you'll need it to make glass. You cannot trade for sand, nor can you trade for raw glass. Sand also means you have soil, which removes the need for irrigation to start farming.

==== Fortress size ====

Once you've decided on location, you need to decide the size of your fortress area. Advantages of requesting a large local area include more raw materials, greater diversity of [[rock]]s and special underground features, and the ability to include desired terrain (such as a river, a forest, or a magma vent). Disadvantages include slower game performance, higher likelihood of merchants failing to reach your [[trade depot]] before they run out of time, and more risk of losing immigrants as they struggle to your front [[gate]]. (Note that you can [[mine]] many levels deep into the ground, and even a 3x3 area generally contains more raw materials than you're ever likely to need.)

You can adjust the size of your fort's area by using {{k|SHIFT}} + the {{k|h}} {{k|k}} {{k|u}} or {{k|m}}keys.

=== Embark ===

When done, hit {{k|e}} to embark. A warning may appear if you've chosen a challenging site.

== Buying skills and items ==

You'll now have the choice of playing with the default setup or of preparing for the journey carefully. We're going to do the latter, because we'd like to stay alive.

Here, presumably, you are the dwarf determining who will go and what they will take. You have a total of 2060☼ to spend in two categories: Skilled dwarves and items. Some items have already been selected for you, but you probably won't want most of these.

There are as many possible ways to approach setting up as there are fortress locations. The [[starting builds]] page offers several possibilities, if you don't like the one here.

=== Skills ===

First, remove all the items in the items screen, so you'll have enough starting points to spend on skilled dwarves. You need to press the {{k|-}} key on the numpad to sell items. Likewise you use the {{k|+}} key on the numpad to buy more of an item. {{k|+}} and {{k|-}} on the regular keyboard will not work.

* Proficient [[Miner]]/Novice [[Judge of intent]]/Novice [[Appraiser]]/Competent [[Gem setter]]. This dwarf will tend to be chosen as leader (who is also a counselor of sorts) and will also be your trader, manager and bookkeeper. Whenever he has time, he will also work as miner, and later on he will decorate your goods with gems.
* Proficient [[Miner]]/Proficient [[Mason]]
* Proficient [[Woodcutter]]/Proficient [[Carpenter]]
* Proficient [[Grower]]/Proficient [[Herbalist]]. If you know how underground farming works, you might want to combine a Proficient [[Grower]] with a [[Craftsdwarf|stonecrafter]], [[bone carver]], [[glassmaker]] or [[clothier]] instead to produce items of value for trade. A herbalist is useful for acquiring above ground seeds mostly and food output from farming is more than generous.
* Proficient [[Building designer]]/Proficient [[Mechanic]]
* Proficient [[Weaponsmith]]/Proficient [[Armorsmith]]. If you ever plan to equip dwarves with weapons and armor, you'll need a dwarf skilled at these.
* Proficient [[Brewer]]/Proficient [[Cook]]. A skilled cook makes high quality food. High quality food keeps your dwarves happy, which makes the game a lot easier.

The total cost of the skills above is 480☼, but it is worth the cost: Once you start the fortress, skills will be much more difficult to get than valuable goods.

Here's a suggestion of what skills to take. For food safety one may prefer a [[fisherdwarf]]/[[fish cleaner]] to the [[weaponsmith]]/[[armorsmith]], but it's hardly necessary. You can also chose a lesser degree of skill for the building designer, as this skill only improves work speed and isn't as necessary in the long run.

=== Items ===

You have 1580☼ to spend on items to take along. If some of these things aren't available, skip over them for now and get the rest. We'll take care of them later.

If an item is not on the list, you will need to add it to the list by pressing {{k|n}}, finding the desired item, and pressing {{k|Enter}}.

* You'll need two [[copper]] [[pick]]s, which cost 20☼ each (40☼ total), for your miners. The material doesn't affect mining speed.
* Also, a [[battle axe]] will be needed for woodcutting. Since the only possible metal for it is [[steel]], it costs 300☼.
* You'll need food. We recommend the following:
** 100 pieces of any variety of [[meat]] worth 2☼ apiece. Take at least one meat from each type of 2☼ meat, as you will get more [[barrel]]s that way. (200☼ total)
*** If you bring Turtle or any other fish, you will get bones and shells when they are consumed, though you won't if you cook them.
** 100 drinks of [[alcohol]], which will be stored in 20 [[barrel]]s free of charge. Alcohol stacks 5 drinks per barrel, so stack sizes ending in 1 or 6 earn you a cheap barrel. (200☼ total)
*** If you bring all the types available it will help keep the dwarves happy, since a given dwarf might have a preference as to what kind of booze he drinks, and his favorite one will make him happier. Don't worry about this too much.
* You need [[seed]]s, which are 1☼ each:
** 25 [[plump helmet spawn]]. Plump helmets will likely be your main crop, as they are easy to grow, and, if you brew them then cook the wine, they give as much food as anything else. However, many players consider this cheating. Real dwarves don't eat biscuits made only out of wine.
** 10 [[pig tail]] seeds
** 10 [[rock nut]]s, which are the most difficult crop to use but the one that gives the most food, bar [[cheating]]
* You may wish to bring [[animal]]s:
** Two [[dog]]s, at 16☼ each (32☼ total). Gender alternates, so you will get one male and one female if you bring two. Dogs are excellent early defense systems and can be easily trained into war dogs, which do not run from danger and do twice as much damage.
** [[Cat]]s have advantages and disadvantages that the player must weigh carefully. They cost 11☼ each.
***Cats are by far the most effective way of killing [[vermin]], preventing unhappy [[thought]]s. However, they will leave vermin corpses lying around your fortress which can produce clouds of [[miasma]]. This can be controlled if the user simply sets up the [[refuse]] [[stockpile]] in a room with a [[door]].
***Cats cannot be assigned owners. They will choose an owner randomly. A cat with an owner cannot be killed without the owner throwing a [[tantrum]]. This is especially troublesome as the cat population escalates.
***Cats breed quickly with several offspring. One solution is to kill all female cats before they select an owner. This is not as easy as it sounds for a novice player, and it may also necessitate killing immigrants that arrive with a female cat to prevent a tantrum. A perhaps more productive solution is to take advantage of their multiplication, putting kittens into a [[cage]] quickly after birth and [[butchering]] them as needed to feed the dwarves.
* If you have followed the above exactly, you'll have 763☼ left. Spend this on whatever you like. If the area where you are has little wood, like a [[desert]] or mountains, you may wish to bring a few hundred [[logs]], which cost 3☼ each. You could also bring more [[food]]. You may wish to not take the expensive axe and take an anvil instead, which would leave you with 63☼. You can request an axe from the caravan or [[forge]] it yourself.
* If you plan on raising animals as a food source you could take two cows or depending on where you start or what civilization you select 2 horses or camels to breed.

While you need an anvil for metalsmithing, you don't have to take it here, since the dwarven [[caravan]] may bring one in [[autumn]] of the first year, and you'll easily be able to make 1000☼ in trade goods before then. If they don't have one, you can request it for next year, or wait for the humans to arrive and buy or order one from them.

==== What if something's not on the list? ====

Since some civilizations don't have certain materials or items, some things may not be available. If so, any food and drink will do. You can survive with only plump helmets and what you gather, so it's not critical to get certain kinds of seeds. Just grab a few of whatever's available in case you want to use them. In the case of picks, any material will do, just get the cheapest available. If picks or axes are missing completely, you can simply make them from raw materials when you arrive.

In order to do this, you'll need a bar of metal (preferably copper or iron), and a block of any material. You'll also need an [[iron]] [[anvil]], which costs 1000☼ to take. You can use these along with the starting wood to make a [[wood furnace]], turn your wood into coal, then deconstruct the wood furnace and make a [[forge]]. Make a pick at the forge, and use it to mine some ore. Deconstruct the forge to make a [[smelter]] and smelt the ore into a bar. Then build the forge once more and make your axe, which you can use to get more wood. Of course, you can simplify the process by just taking a second bar of metal with you.

If not even an anvil is available, you'll have to wait for the human [[caravan]] to bring one. If they don't have it the first time they come, be sure to request anvils so they'll bring one next year.

=== [[Fortress name|Naming]] ===

You can also name your fortress and starting group. This doesn't affect the game any, except in that if you don't, you could end up with a name like "The Bloody Anus of Angels." And we hope you don't want that.

== Beginning the fortress ==

When you reach the site of your new fortress, the first things you want to do are:

* Dig secure lodgings.
* Create [[stockpile]]s.
* Build basic [[workshop]]s.
* Set up a [[dining room]] and a [[bedroom]].
* Construct a [[Farming|farm]].

Sounds simple, right? It doesn't? Learning the basics of the game can take some time, but soon enough you'll be customizing stockpiles like a pro!

=== Basics ===

* First off, pause the game by pressing {{k|space}}. You can do this at any time to figure out what's going on at your leisure.

* To move the view around, use the arrow keys. To move the view around at a faster pace, hold down the {{k|shift}} key, but if using the numpad keys make sure {{k|numlock}} is off. To view different elevations, or "[[Z]]-levels," use the {{k|<}} and {{k|>}} keys ({{k|shift}} + {{k|,}} or {{k|.}}).

* To examine the contents of a square, press {{k|k}} and move the cursor over the square you want to examine. If you get lost and can't find your way back to your dwarves, press {{k|F1}} to center the camera back on the starting position. Check out more information on [[hotkeys]] to find out how to change that location.

* You need to know how to change what jobs your dwarves will do. Press {{k|v}} and then move the cursor over a dwarf. It will display information about him/her. Go to the dwarf's {{k|p}}references, then the {{k|l}}abor submenu, and scroll the list with {{k|+}} and {{k|-}} on the number pad ({{k|*}} and {{k|/}} will scroll through the list at a faster pace). The highlighted jobs are the ones this dwarf is allowed to do. Your starting dwarves should have the jobs that you gave them skills in enabled, but any dwarf can do any job, even if they have no skill in it yet. This is important to know so you can make the dwarves do the jobs you need done instead of just whatever their default jobs are. You should probably turn off all types of [[hauling]] for one of the miners so they get right to work [[digging]] and don't get distracted by [[hauling]] commands. The {{k|Enter}} key toggles whether a dwarf will perform the given task or not.

=== Digging ===

* To start [[digging]] out your fortress, press {{k|d}} to open the designation menu. Here you can select the tiles for your miners to dig, or tell them to create [[stair]]s and [[ramp]]s and various other things. Press {{k|d}} again to make sure you're creating digging designations, then press {{k|Enter}} to start marking where to dig.

* Start digging out a room as the start of your fortress. If you don't like the area the [[wagon]] starts in, choose a different place on the map. Try to keep a 1 tile wide chokepoint or hallway leading into it which you can block with a door. If you are in an area covered with sand, [[loam]], or [[clay]], you won't have rocks cluttering the room, so it may be easier to make your rooms there. Oddly, sand walls are just as hard as granite ones.

* You will need rock for construction, though, so if you don't mine your rooms out of stone, you'll need to create a mining area elsewhere to get stone.

* <del>Dwarves</del> Sane dwarves live underground, of course, so digging the start of your fortress requires you to understand the lay of the land. Likely, your fortress will be located in one of two types of areas, either near a preexisting steep slope you can dig into the side of, or in an area where you will have to dig [[stairs]] to get below the surface first. Examine the land using the {{k|k}} view command mentioned previously to determine which method you need to use. Open space means the land drops below your current Z-level.

* To dig down with stairs, designate a [[downward stairway]] on the surface, then move the view down one level ({{k|>}}) and designate an [[upward stairway]] on the tile directly beneath the downwards stairs. An [[up/down stairway]] works like both types of stairways in one tile. [[Stair]]s can go as deep as you want in a stack if you keep making [[up/down stairway]]s on top of each other. You can continue stairs from both the top and the bottom of [[up/down stairway]]s, but only from the bottom of [[downward stairway]]s, and only from the top of [[upward stairway]]s so only use the [[upward stairway]] or [[downward stairway]] when you're not planning to ever go further that direction. Keep in mind that you can only dig [[upward stairway]]s and [[up/down stairway]]s in squares that have not already been dug out, since you are carving the stairs out of the earth that's there.

=== Creating [[stockpile]]s ===

* Outdoors, by the fortress entrance, create a [[refuse stockpile]], a [[wood stockpile]], a [[furniture stockpile]], and a [[food stockpile]] to get your supplies out of the wagon and delay the [[Wear|rotting]] of food. Don't create a [[stone stockpile]] yet, as this will cause your dwarves to get bogged down with hauling. To make a stockpile, press {{k|p}}, press the letter corresponding to the type of stockpile you want, then press enter and drag the selection box over the area you want, and press enter again to create it.

* Move all stockpiles inside as soon as possible for most things will eventually [[rot]] outside but never inside. Make sure your refuse stockpile is then separated by a door or even an airlock-like double door (-->[[Miasma]]).

* You'll need to make many different stockpiles throughout the game.

=== Building workshops ===

* Disassemble the wagon for [[wood]], by "destroying it", by pressing {{k|q}}, moving the cursor over the wagon, and pressing {{k|x}}. Your carpenter should then disassemble it into three logs (This is the same process to disassemble most any building).

* Create a [[mason's workshop]], a [[carpenter's workshop]], and a [[mechanic's workshop]] with the stones your miners should be producing as they dig tunnels through the rock. To build things, press {{k|b}}, then for workshops, press {{k|w}}. Scroll to the type you want with {{k|+}} and {{k|-}} and press enter. You should next see a screen with the list of all the available materials you can use to build the workshop. Select any type of stone and the dwarves will get started. '''However''', if the stone available to you has some [[economic stone|economic value]], such as [[limestone]] or [[marble]], you must press {{k|z}} to open the general status screen, go to the Stones submenu, then find the stone type in the list and press {{k|enter}} to allow your dwarves to use it for mundane tasks like constructing buildings and furniture.

* In order to get the worshops actually built, the Mason must do his job. If he's also miner (as proposed above), it's necessary to switch off "Mining" for him, else he won't build something and instead continue mining.

* Your [[fisherdwarf]] has likely run off to a body of water to start fishing. Raw fish is inedible, and rots if left alone too long, so you need to build a [[fishery]] to process it. You build the fishery in the same way you built the other workshops. After it's built, select it with {{k|q}}, press {{k|a}}, select "Process Raw Fish" and press enter. Then press {{k|r}} to make that order repeat until it runs out of fish to process.
** The answer to the question, "is fishing high priority," (which was asked here) depends on what kind of priority you mean. If you mean "do dwarves fish instead of other tasks," yes, fishing is very high priority.

* At the [[mason's workshop]], order a [[door]] by selecting the workshop with {{k|q}}, pressing {{k|a}}, then scrolling to "door" on the list with {{k|+}} and {{k|-}} and pressing enter. Stone is more common than wood, so you want to make everything you can out of stone rather than wood. The only important items you can't make out of stone that you can make out of wood are [[bed]]s, [[bucket]]s, [[bin]]s, [[barrel]]s, and [[charcoal]] for fueling your [[forge]]s.

* Once the door is finished, place the door in the entrance of your fort by pressing {{k|b}}uild, then {{k|d}}oor, then selecting the space you want it to go in and pressing {{k|Enter}}. If trouble shows up, you can lock the door by pressing {{k|q}}, highlighting it and pressing {{k|l}} once. Pressing it again unlocks it.

* At the [[carpenter's workshop]], first order a [[bed]] and a [[bucket]] to be made out of some of your wood. These are needed to heal any injured dwarf.

* Once the bed is complete, {{k|b}}uild it in the same manner you built the door, and place it in your entrance hall. Once it's placed, you should make it into a communal sleeping hall by selecting the bed with {{k|q}}, pressing {{k|r}} and using the {{k|+}} and {{k|-}} keys to cover the area of the hall, pressing {{k|Enter}}, then pressing {{k|b}} to make it a [[barracks]]. Making it a barracks means that it is a public sleeping area, and dwarves without their own rooms will sleep there, on the floor if there aren't enough beds. You may prefer to make a separate room for it, though this is not necessary.


* You should designate some trees to be cut down for more logs. Press {{k|d}}, then {{k|t}}. Find an area with trees, then press enter and highlight some trees by dragging the selection area over them and pressing enter again.
* To build some [[trap]]s to defend your front door, order some [[mechanism]]s to be built at the [[mechanic's workshop]]. After they are made, go to the {{k|b}}uild menu, and select the "Traps/Levers" category using {{k|+}} and {{k|-}}. Select the [[Trap#Stone-fall trap|stone-fall trap]], select the materials to use, then place it in a choke point leading into your fortress, like in front of or behind the front door.
* Mine a new room that will be used as a dining hall, and build four or five stone [[table]]s and stone [[throne]]s for it. Build some more doors to section off new rooms properly, as dwarves dislike rooms that aren't enclosed on all sides by walls or doors. Place the tables and thrones like you did the doors, and put one throne adjacent to each table. Once a table is placed in the room, select it with {{k|q}} and use it to define the area as a dining room, like you did with the bed for the sleeping hall. You only need to use one table to define the room, and the rest of the tables in it are automatically considered part of the dining room.
* Mine a few more rooms to be used as storage areas, remove the furniture and food stockpiles outside, and make new ones in these new storage rooms.
* You can also move your workshops indoors. They should not be built in the vicinity of the sleeping hall, as the noise will bother people. You can remove the workshops aboveground the same way you dismantled the wagon: press {{k|q}}, highlight the workshop, then press {{k|x}}.

=== Farming ===

Next you'll set up [[farming]]. You first need to dig a farm room underground. Dwarven crops won't grow on the surface. (You ''can'' retrieve some surface-grown plants using the [[gather plants]] designation liberally.)

If there are enough layers of [[soil]] covering the rock, you can carve out a farm room inside the soil and start farming without having to [[irrigate]] the ground. This is recommended for beginning players if possible. However, if you want to make a farm room with a rock floor, you will need to get the floor wet first. When water covers a rock cavern floor, it becomes muddy, which allows you to build farm plots on it. For more information about how to do that, read up on [[irrigation]].

Once you have suitable ground for planting, go to the {{k|b}}uild menu, find "Farm Plot" or press {{k|p}}, then use the {{k|u}} {{k|m}} {{k|h}} {{k|k}} keys to resize it, and press enter to place it. A 5x5 field should be plenty to last you through winter. After it's placed, your growers will come clear the site and prepare it for planting.

Now that the field is ready, select it with {{k|q}}, and set the crop you want to be grown on it. You have to set this manually for each season. Press {{k|a}} for spring, {{k|b}} for summer, {{k|c}} for fall, and {{k|d}} for winter. Not every crop can be grown in every season, although [[plump helmet]]s can be grown all year. You probably want to grow plump helmets exclusively at first, as they are the easiest crop to grow and use. Dwarves can eat them raw, cooked, or brew them into alcohol.

=== Trading ===

A dwarven caravan will drop by in the Autumn of the first year. You need to have an accessible [[Trade depot]] to trade, though if you don't have one when they arrive the dwarf merchants will wait at the map edge for one to be built. Your outpost leader will meet with the [[liaison]] and discuss what to bring for the next year. This meeting can take place anywhere on the map, but the office seems to be preferred. Traders with horses or camels and the like can reach pretty much any place that hasn't been locked or isn't up or down stairs. Dwarven and human wagons are a little more tricky sometimes, they need a 3 tile path. Once a trade depot is built, you can press {{k|D}} (shift-d) to check wagon access. The green "W" squares show where a wagon can go; if the screen says "Depot accessible", then wagons will be able to reach your depot.

You may be a bit light on things to trade. If you have any leftover [[mechanism]]s, send 'em in; they're worth a good penny, especially if they're of better quality. You can also build a [[Craftsdwarf's workshop]] and make stone crafts for trading if you brought a skilled stonecrafter with you. If you have any high quality cooked meals and feel that you are well stocked on food you may consider selling that, but don't underestimate the first wave of [[immigrant]]s.

If you have managed to kill any invaders, many of them wear silk clothes that don't fit dwarves. These can be worth hauling long distances - one pair of "Giant cave spider" socks, or the like can pay for an anvil

In order to trade, you'll need to use {{k|q}} on the trade depot. Pressing {{k|r}} will put a "Trade at depot" job on the queue (make sure your broker's not off hauling stone or something). While you're doing this, you'll need to move the things you want to trade away to the depot: The {{k|g}} key lets you pick from your stores. Once the broker and the items are in place, use {{k|t}} to initiate the trade.

If the broker doesn't have enough skill at Appraising, you won't be able to see item prices - only weights (marked with the gamma symbol on the standard font) and some guesswork might be needed to find out what will be accepted for what.

What to buy? An anvil if you don't have one. Logs, crops, booze, cheap meat, cheap raw materials you can process. Any general, cheap supplies you need. Do not buy cheese or giant cave spider silk for now - they're very expensive and not worth the bother. However, if you are in an area that cannot produce steel, and you can pay for it, you may wish to start ordering [[steel]] and/or steel ingredients now.

Each level of asking for an item increases the prices by 20%, on average, so while if you pay the max amount you will almost certainly get the item, and lots of it, you'll be paying twice the normal value.

== What next? ==

At this point your little fort should be mostly self-sufficient, barring animal attacks, mining accidents, psychotic outbreaks, or invasion. You can now invest some time in luxuries, such as making private rooms for each dwarf, crafting valuable trade goods, crazy engineering projects, and brewing more beer.

Here's some ideas for what to do next:
* Make an underground [[well]] that won't freeze over in winter, by draining a surface pool or diverting a river.
* Build a [[craftdwarf's workshop]] and start making some trade goods.
* Start [[smelting]] the ore you've mined if you have dwarves with the right skills.
* Set up a [[still]] to brew more drinks for your thirsty dwarves. They'll drink water if they have to, but they are much happier and work faster if they are full of alcohol.
* Make individual rooms for each dwarf, with a bed and maybe a rock coffer and rock cabinet in each one.
* Use [[zone]]s to set up a meeting hall, and designate which water sources you want your dwarves to use for [[fishing]] and drinking.
* Expand your farm, dining room, and living quarters in anticipation of the massive wave of 10-30 immigrants that will likely show up sometime in the next year.
* Start making [[bin]]s and [[barrel]]s to consolidate items and food taking up space in your stockpiles so things are more organized, and so you have more barrels to brew drinks with.
* Set up an indoor [[refuse stockpile]] so your dwarves don't have to carry their trash as far, and so you can start building up a useful supply of bones and shells.
* Plant some [[pigtail]]s to make [[cloth]]. You'll need a [[farmer's workshop]], a [[loom]], and a [[clothier's shop]].
* Draft a couple dwarves, and start a fortress [[military]].
* Hunt for iron, gold, and gems with some [[exploratory mining]].

And when you start feeling more confident with your DF-knowledge, you can try to set some [[Game goals|crazy goals]] for yourself for a challenge, or just enjoy the game in the way '''you''' fashion at your own pace. But most importantly to remember, '''Losing is fun!'''

[[Category:Guides]]

{{Starting FAQ}}

40d Talk:Starting location

2008-08-10T21:51:34Z

Raumkraut: /* Fun starting locations */

Trees do not only grow on the lowest Z-Level. I have trees growing on multiple Z-Levels. --[[User:Tracker|Tracker]] 02:46, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

Hmm. Maybe only up to a certain height? My first map--while initially pretty decent (sand, water, trees, rock, variety of minerals) had trees only in the most lower left hand corner (one screen's worth), which also happened to be the lowest surface level I had. But you are right, my current fort (nice entrance, there was a pocket by a river tributary that I turned into my entrance gateway, but no sand) has trees on two levels, the lowest surface, and the second lowest. Still, it's something to be aware of.
--[[User:Draco18s|Draco18s]] 03:26, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

Absolutely - that's why I changed it to say "lower" instead of lowest. --[[User:Tracker|Tracker]] 03:35, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

So I noticed. :)
--[[User:Draco18s|Draco18s]] 03:26, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

== Towns ==

Any benefit of building in towns? Other than mining under the elves and dropping them into pits? --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 19:35, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
:Yes there is. Humans are more than happy to share their stuff with you, and won't be at all upset if you rob them blind it seems. --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 22:11, 3 November 2007 (EDT)
::Think this'll ever get changed? Seems kind of unrealistic to me...--[[User:Tarsier|Tarsier]] 19:56, 5 November 2007 (EST)

== Mountain tiles guarantee certain features. ==

As per my addition, for each mountain square in the 2nd zoom view, you're guaranteed pits, a chasm, and an underground river. I have confirmed this myself using the reveal tool, and Today has confirmed at least part of it: http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=001176 - [[User:Kjoery|Kjoery]] 16:49, 6 November 2007 (EST)

:Confirmed this too.--[[User:Richards|Richards]] 03:20, 21 April 2008 (EDT)

== Towns Revert ==

Any reason why that edit was unacceptable to you Savok? I'm not going to revert, but I would like an explanation. --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 12:06, 12 November 2007 (EST)

== Errors in PNG? ==

Contrary to the text in the attached PNG, I've had fortresses with pockets of sand sufficient for glassworking even when sand doesn't show up in the embark screen. [[User:Kidinnu|Kidinnu]] 09:25, 28 November 2007 (EST)

Yes, all maps I've ever had have had at least a few squares of sand. Is it guaranteed? --[[User:Penguinofhonor|Penguinofhonor]] 22:18, 30 November 2007 (EST)
:I have never seen any pockets of sand. --[[User:Strangething|Strangething]] 16:27, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Another error is that magma and volcanoes now appear on the map [[User:MikeWulf|MikeWulf]] 23:41, 6 March 2008 (EST)
:Note that underground magma is hidden. Only lava on the surface is shown on the map --[[User:Strangething|Strangething]] 16:27, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

== Layers ==

The paragraph about layers is not explicit enough for newbies. For instance, 'igneous intrusive' never shows up on the embark screen. What I would like to see is something like
* red sand - useful for glass making
* gabbro - in this layer you may find chalk, a flux
* felsite - in this layer you may find copper ore
etc. (Caveat: the data I gave as example is most likely false and/or incomplete).

This way, by comparing the embark screen to this page, the reader would immediately find out what (s)he may find in the site.
--[[User:Aykavil|Aykavil]] 09:51, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

:I added a link to [[stone layers]]. There's a lot more in-depth info there. --[[User:Strangething|Strangething]] 16:32, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

== Fun starting locations ==

A starting location that looks pretty good from the readouts can turn out to be as boring as hell once you arrive at it. Are there any tips for finding ''interesting'' locations? --[[User:Theory|Theory]] 16:46, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

: Define "interesting"? Anything with a [[chasm]] or in a [[terrifying]] biome could be 'interesting', I'm sure! Personally I often like completely flat land, so I can make the area interesting with my own constructions! That said, I'm considering next building a settlement on the side/s of a steep canyon or river valley! --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 17:51, 10 August 2008 (EDT)

40d:Legendary artifact

2008-08-10T21:36:49Z

Raumkraut: speeling and, grammar

Dwarves in [[strange mood]]s will create '''legendary artifacts''': unique, "named" items which are of unsurpassable quality (and usually cost). An artifact is the ultimate expression of a dwarf's desires, fears, memories and hopes in art form, and each dwarf will produce only one in their lives (or die trying). Dwarves that create an artifact are always granted the status of [[legendary]] (unless possessed).
Dwarves drop artifacts in the [[workshop]] or in an appropriate [[stockpile]] as soon as they are made. They can then be used just like other items. However, be warned that when a dwarf equips an artifact item (as a weapon or armour) he will never drop it, and may even carry around several artifact weapons in each hand{{version|0.27.176.38c}}. Of course, you might not see a champion [[swordsdwarf]] wielding eight artifact [[adamantine]] scimitars at once as a bad thing.

Artifacts cannot be destroyed unless lost in a chasm. They ''can'' be stolen by marauding parties; an artifact lost to you will have a note to that effect in the Artifacts screen(press {{k|l}}).

==Construction==
Dwarves will use anywhere from one to ten items in their construction. If you view ({{k|q}}) the [[workshop]] a dwarf has seized while the dwarf is in it, you can see what materials he or she plans to use (see [[strange mood]]s for further details).

==Usage==
Currently, artifacts can be used just like all other items, except that it cannot be traded to caravans. A dwarf carrying a job item artifact, such as a pick or an axe, will use it to perform that job. A dwarf with an artifact weapon will use it to great effect in battle if drafted or forced to engage in combat. Artifact weapons won't be used by recruits and normal warriors, only by elites and champions.

===Quality===
Artifact items have a [[quality|quality modifier]] of 120×. This is applied on top of the item's [[item value#Base values of items|base value]], its [[decoration]]s and the value of all [[item value#Material multipliers|material]]s used in its construction. (From testing, an artifact piece of furniture will raise the value of any room to Royal, for example.)

Artifacts will automatically have one "free" decoration of the same type as its base material. For instance, a "Perfect Ruby" might have "Images of mangrove trees in Ruby". This decoration doesn't consume additional materials: in the above example, only one ruby was used.

Artifacts can range in value from 2,400☼ to well over 100,000☼ (for the curious, the limit is 648,000☼ if adamantine isn't used). Since [[immigration]] totals are - among other factors - based on your fortress's "Created Wealth" (and held/worn items count double in the total), expensive artifacts are often the driving factor behind how many immigrants show up in the first years.

Artifact armour and weapons have a high damage/protection modifier, at least greater than a similar iron item of basic quality. Though even steel artifacts will not surpass basic quality adamantine items. Note that the material of a crossbow, artifact or not, does not change its shooting abilities, only its viability in melee.

[[Category:Items]]

40d:Sphere

2008-08-10T21:26:45Z

Raumkraut: speeling

[[deity | Deities]], [[demons]], and [[Megabeasts]] are aligned in spheres. A sphere is an aspect where a being has influence. [[Civilizations]] have sphere alignments as well.

=== Understanding spheres ===

A being such as a deity, demon and occasionally megabeast may come to represent or epitomize certain things like emotions, qualities, terrain, and items. They are called "spheres". As an example from real-world mythology, the Greek goddess [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athena Athena] is goddess in the "spheres" of wisdom, warfare, handicrafts and reason. She is therefore the goddess of wisdom.

Dwarves and other creatures will come to worship certain "powerful beings" and as such will follow that religion, and have a relationship with that "deity"

The following is according to Toady:

Spheres have a parent/child list, a friend list, and a preclude list. A deity has either one or two base spheres, and then they pick friends of those spheres, while never choosing a precluded or parent/child sphere of any of the spheres they already have. I tried to be pretty lax with the preclude list so that interesting relationships could pop up. There will obviously be problems and omissions and things here, since I had to match 100+ spheres together several times and no doubt made mistakes. Feel free to discuss.

Parent/child relationships (note that a sphere can have more than one parent):
SPHERE_NATURE
SPHERE_ANIMALS
SPHERE_FISH
SPHERE_PLANTS
SPHERE_TREES
SPHERE_ART
SPHERE_DANCE
SPHERE_MUSIC
SPHERE_PAINTING
SPHERE_POETRY
SPHERE_SONG
SPHERE_BOUNDARIES
SPHERE_COASTS
SPHERE_COURAGE
SPHERE_VALOR
SPHERE_EARTH
SPHERE_METALS
SPHERE_MINERALS
SPHERE_SALT
SPHERE_WATER
SPHERE_LAKES
SPHERE_OCEANS
SPHERE_RIVERS
SPHERE_RAIN
SPHERE_WEATHER
SPHERE_LIGHTNING
SPHERE_RAIN
SPHERE_RAINBOWS
SPHERE_STORMS
SPHERE_THUNDER
SPHERE_WIND

Friend relationships:
SPHERE_AGRICULTURE
SPHERE_FOOD
SPHERE_FERTILITY
SPHERE_RAIN
SPHERE_ANIMALS
SPHERE_PLANTS
SPHERE_ART
SPHERE_INSPIRATION
SPHERE_BEAUTY
SPHERE_BEAUTY
SPHERE_ART
SPHERE_BIRTH
SPHERE_CHILDREN
SPHERE_CREATION
SPHERE_FAMILY
SPHERE_MARRIAGE
SPHERE_PREGNANCY
SPHERE_REBIRTH
SPHERE_YOUTH
SPHERE_BLIGHT
SPHERE_DISEASE
SPHERE_DEATH
SPHERE_CAVERNS
SPHERE_MOUNTAINS
SPHERE_EARTH
SPHERE_CHAOS
SPHERE_WAR
SPHERE_CHARITY
SPHERE_GENEROSITY
SPHERE_SACRIFICE
SPHERE_CHILDREN
SPHERE_BIRTH
SPHERE_FAMILY
SPHERE_YOUTH
SPHERE_PREGNANCY
SPHERE_COASTS
SPHERE_LAKES
SPHERE_OCEANS
SPHERE_CRAFTS
SPHERE_CREATION
SPHERE_LABOR
SPHERE_METALS
SPHERE_CREATION
SPHERE_CRAFTS
SPHERE_BIRTH
SPHERE_PREGNANCY
SPHERE_REBIRTH
SPHERE_DANCE
SPHERE_FESTIVALS
SPHERE_MUSIC
SPHERE_REVELRY
SPHERE_DARKNESS
SPHERE_NIGHT
SPHERE_DAWN
SPHERE_SUN
SPHERE_TWILIGHT
SPHERE_DAY
SPHERE_LIGHT
SPHERE_SUN
SPHERE_DEATH
SPHERE_BLIGHT
SPHERE_DISEASE
SPHERE_MURDER
SPHERE_REBIRTH
SPHERE_SUICIDE
SPHERE_WAR
SPHERE_DEFORMITY
SPHERE_DISEASE
SPHERE_DEPRAVITY
SPHERE_LUST
SPHERE_DISCIPLINE
SPHERE_LAWS
SPHERE_ORDER
SPHERE_DISEASE
SPHERE_BLIGHT
SPHERE_DEATH
SPHERE_DEFORMITY
SPHERE_DREAMS
SPHERE_NIGHT
SPHERE_NIGHTMARES
SPHERE_DUSK
SPHERE_TWILIGHT
SPHERE_DUTY
SPHERE_ORDER
SPHERE_EARTH
SPHERE_CAVERNS
SPHERE_MOUNTAINS
SPHERE_VOLCANOS
SPHERE_FAMILY
SPHERE_BIRTH
SPHERE_CHILDREN
SPHERE_MARRIAGE
SPHERE_PREGNANCY
SPHERE_FAME
SPHERE_RUMORS
SPHERE_FERTILITY
SPHERE_AGRICULTURE
SPHERE_FOOD
SPHERE_RAIN
SPHERE_FESTIVALS
SPHERE_DANCE
SPHERE_MUSIC
SPHERE_REVELRY
SPHERE_SONG
SPHERE_FIRE
SPHERE_METALS
SPHERE_SUN
SPHERE_VOLCANOS
SPHERE_FISH
SPHERE_OCEANS
SPHERE_LAKES
SPHERE_RIVERS
SPHERE_WATER
SPHERE_FISHING
SPHERE_FISHING
SPHERE_FISH
SPHERE_HUNTING
SPHERE_FOOD
SPHERE_AGRICULTURE
SPHERE_FERTILITY
SPHERE_FORGIVENESS
SPHERE_MERCY
SPHERE_FORTRESSES
SPHERE_WAR
SPHERE_GAMBLING
SPHERE_GAMES
SPHERE_LUCK
SPHERE_GAMES
SPHERE_GAMBLING
SPHERE_LUCK
SPHERE_GENEROSITY
SPHERE_CHARITY
SPHERE_SACRIFICE
SPHERE_HAPPINESS
SPHERE_REVELRY
SPHERE_HUNTING
SPHERE_FISHING
SPHERE_INSPIRATION
SPHERE_ART
SPHERE_PAINTING
SPHERE_POETRY
SPHERE_JEWELS
SPHERE_MINERALS
SPHERE_WEALTH
SPHERE_JUSTICE
SPHERE_LAWS
SPHERE_LABOR
SPHERE_CRAFTS
SPHERE_LAKES
SPHERE_COASTS
SPHERE_FISH
SPHERE_OCEANS
SPHERE_RIVERS
SPHERE_LAWS
SPHERE_DISCIPLINE
SPHERE_JUSTICE
SPHERE_OATHS
SPHERE_ORDER
SPHERE_LIES
SPHERE_TREACHERY
SPHERE_TRICKERY
SPHERE_LIGHT
SPHERE_DAY
SPHERE_RAINBOWS
SPHERE_SUN
SPHERE_LIGHTNING
SPHERE_RAIN
SPHERE_STORMS
SPHERE_THUNDER
SPHERE_LONGEVITY
SPHERE_YOUTH
SPHERE_LOYALTY
SPHERE_OATHS
SPHERE_LUCK
SPHERE_GAMBLING
SPHERE_GAMES
SPHERE_LUST
SPHERE_DEPRAVITY
SPHERE_MARRIAGE
SPHERE_BIRTH
SPHERE_FAMILY
SPHERE_OATHS
SPHERE_PREGNANCY
SPHERE_MERCY
SPHERE_FORGIVENESS
SPHERE_METALS
SPHERE_CRAFTS
SPHERE_FIRE
SPHERE_MINERALS
SPHERE_MINERALS
SPHERE_JEWELS
SPHERE_METALS
SPHERE_MISERY
SPHERE_TORTURE
SPHERE_MOON
SPHERE_NIGHT
SPHERE_SKY
SPHERE_MOUNTAINS
SPHERE_CAVERNS
SPHERE_EARTH
SPHERE_VOLCANOS
SPHERE_MURDER
SPHERE_DEATH
SPHERE_MUSIC
SPHERE_DANCE
SPHERE_FESTIVALS
SPHERE_REVELRY
SPHERE_SONG
SPHERE_NATURE
SPHERE_RAIN
SPHERE_SUN
SPHERE_WATER
SPHERE_WEATHER
SPHERE_NIGHT
SPHERE_DARKNESS
SPHERE_DREAMS
SPHERE_MOON
SPHERE_NIGHTMARES
SPHERE_STARS
SPHERE_NIGHTMARES
SPHERE_DREAMS
SPHERE_NIGHT
SPHERE_OATHS
SPHERE_LAWS
SPHERE_LOYALTY
SPHERE_MARRIAGE
SPHERE_OCEANS
SPHERE_COASTS
SPHERE_FISH
SPHERE_LAKES
SPHERE_RIVERS
SPHERE_SALT
SPHERE_ORDER
SPHERE_DISCIPLINE
SPHERE_DUTY
SPHERE_LAWS
SPHERE_PAINTING
SPHERE_INSPIRATION
SPHERE_PERSUASION
SPHERE_POETRY
SPHERE_SPEECH
SPHERE_PLANTS
SPHERE_ANIMALS
SPHERE_RAIN
SPHERE_POETRY
SPHERE_INSPIRATION
SPHERE_PERSUASION
SPHERE_SONG
SPHERE_WRITING
SPHERE_PREGNANCY
SPHERE_BIRTH
SPHERE_CHILDREN
SPHERE_CREATION
SPHERE_FAMILY
SPHERE_MARRIAGE
SPHERE_RAIN
SPHERE_AGRICULTURE
SPHERE_FERTILITY
SPHERE_LIGHTNING
SPHERE_NATURE
SPHERE_PLANTS
SPHERE_RAINBOWS
SPHERE_STORMS
SPHERE_THUNDER
SPHERE_TREES
SPHERE_RAINBOWS
SPHERE_LIGHT
SPHERE_RAIN
SPHERE_SKY
SPHERE_REBIRTH
SPHERE_BIRTH
SPHERE_CREATION
SPHERE_DEATH
SPHERE_REVELRY
SPHERE_DANCE
SPHERE_FESTIVALS
SPHERE_HAPPINESS
SPHERE_MUSIC
SPHERE_SONG
SPHERE_RIVERS
SPHERE_FISH
SPHERE_LAKES
SPHERE_OCEANS
SPHERE_RUMORS
SPHERE_FAME
SPHERE_SACRIFICE
SPHERE_CHARITY
SPHERE_GENEROSITY
SPHERE_SALT
SPHERE_OCEANS
SPHERE_SCHOLARSHIP
SPHERE_WISDOM
SPHERE_WRITING
SPHERE_SKY
SPHERE_MOON
SPHERE_RAINBOWS
SPHERE_SUN
SPHERE_STARS
SPHERE_WEATHER
SPHERE_WIND
SPHERE_SONG
SPHERE_FESTIVALS
SPHERE_MUSIC
SPHERE_POETRY
SPHERE_REVELRY
SPHERE_SPEECH
SPHERE_PERSUASION
SPHERE_STARS
SPHERE_NIGHT
SPHERE_SKY
SPHERE_STORMS
SPHERE_LIGHTNING
SPHERE_RAIN
SPHERE_THUNDER
SPHERE_SUICIDE
SPHERE_DEATH
SPHERE_SUN
SPHERE_DAWN
SPHERE_DAY
SPHERE_FIRE
SPHERE_LIGHT
SPHERE_NATURE
SPHERE_SKY
SPHERE_THUNDER
SPHERE_LIGHTNING
SPHERE_RAIN
SPHERE_STORMS
SPHERE_TORTURE
SPHERE_MISERY
SPHERE_TRADE
SPHERE_WEALTH
SPHERE_TREACHERY
SPHERE_LIES
SPHERE_TRICKERY
SPHERE_TREES
SPHERE_RAIN
SPHERE_TRICKERY
SPHERE_LIES
SPHERE_TREACHERY
SPHERE_TWILIGHT
SPHERE_DAWN
SPHERE_DUSK
SPHERE_VALOR
SPHERE_WAR
SPHERE_VICTORY
SPHERE_WAR
SPHERE_VOLCANOS
SPHERE_EARTH
SPHERE_FIRE
SPHERE_MOUNTAINS
SPHERE_WAR
SPHERE_CHAOS
SPHERE_DEATH
SPHERE_FORTRESSES
SPHERE_VALOR
SPHERE_VICTORY
SPHERE_WATER
SPHERE_FISH
SPHERE_NATURE
SPHERE_WEALTH
SPHERE_JEWELS
SPHERE_TRADE
SPHERE_WEATHER
SPHERE_NATURE
SPHERE_SKY
SPHERE_WIND
SPHERE_SKY
SPHERE_WISDOM
SPHERE_SCHOLARSHIP
SPHERE_WRITING
SPHERE_POETRY
SPHERE_SCHOLARSHIP
SPHERE_YOUTH
SPHERE_BIRTH
SPHERE_CHILDREN
SPHERE_LONGEVITY

Preclude relationships:
SPHERE_BEAUTY
SPHERE_BLIGHT
SPHERE_DEFORMITY
SPHERE_DISEASE
SPHERE_MUCK
SPHERE_BLIGHT
SPHERE_BEAUTY
SPHERE_FOOD
SPHERE_FERTILITY
SPHERE_HEALING
SPHERE_CHAOS
SPHERE_DISCIPLINE
SPHERE_ORDER
SPHERE_LAWS
SPHERE_CHARITY
SPHERE_JEALOUSY
SPHERE_CONSOLATION
SPHERE_MISERY
SPHERE_DARKNESS
SPHERE_DAWN
SPHERE_DAY
SPHERE_LIGHT
SPHERE_TWILIGHT
SPHERE_SUN
SPHERE_DAWN
SPHERE_NIGHT
SPHERE_DAY
SPHERE_DARKNESS
SPHERE_DAY
SPHERE_DARKNESS
SPHERE_NIGHT
SPHERE_DAWN
SPHERE_DUSK
SPHERE_DREAMS
SPHERE_NIGHTMARES
SPHERE_TWILIGHT
SPHERE_DEATH
SPHERE_HEALING
SPHERE_LONGEVITY
SPHERE_YOUTH
SPHERE_DEFORMITY
SPHERE_BEAUTY
SPHERE_DEPRAVITY
SPHERE_LAWS
SPHERE_DISCIPLINE
SPHERE_CHAOS
SPHERE_DISEASE
SPHERE_BEAUTY
SPHERE_HEALING
SPHERE_DREAMS
SPHERE_DAY
SPHERE_DUSK
SPHERE_NIGHT
SPHERE_DAY
SPHERE_FAME
SPHERE_SILENCE
SPHERE_FATE
SPHERE_LUCK
SPHERE_FERTILITY
SPHERE_BLIGHT
SPHERE_FESTIVALS
SPHERE_MISERY
SPHERE_FIRE
SPHERE_WATER
SPHERE_OCEANS
SPHERE_LAKES
SPHERE_RIVERS
SPHERE_FOOD
SPHERE_BLIGHT
SPHERE_FORGIVENESS
SPHERE_REVENGE
SPHERE_FREEDOM
SPHERE_ORDER
SPHERE_HAPPINESS
SPHERE_MISERY
SPHERE_HEALING
SPHERE_DISEASE
SPHERE_BLIGHT
SPHERE_DEATH
SPHERE_JEALOUSY
SPHERE_CHARITY
SPHERE_LAKES
SPHERE_FIRE
SPHERE_LAWS
SPHERE_CHAOS
SPHERE_DEPRAVITY
SPHERE_MURDER
SPHERE_THEFT
SPHERE_LIES
SPHERE_TRUTH
SPHERE_LIGHT
SPHERE_DARKNESS
SPHERE_TWILIGHT
SPHERE_LONGEVITY
SPHERE_DEATH
SPHERE_LOYALTY
SPHERE_TREACHERY
SPHERE_LUCK
SPHERE_FATE
SPHERE_MERCY
SPHERE_REVENGE
SPHERE_MISERY
SPHERE_CONSOLATION
SPHERE_FESTIVALS
SPHERE_REVELRY
SPHERE_HAPPINESS
SPHERE_MUCK
SPHERE_BEAUTY
SPHERE_MURDER
SPHERE_LAWS
SPHERE_MUSIC
SPHERE_SILENCE
SPHERE_NIGHT
SPHERE_DAY
SPHERE_DAWN
SPHERE_DUSK
SPHERE_TWILIGHT
SPHERE_NIGHTMARES
SPHERE_DAY
SPHERE_OATHS
SPHERE_TREACHERY
SPHERE_OCEANS
SPHERE_FIRE
SPHERE_ORDER
SPHERE_CHAOS
SPHERE_FREEDOM
SPHERE_REVELRY
SPHERE_MISERY
SPHERE_REVENGE
SPHERE_FORGIVENESS
SPHERE_MERCY
SPHERE_RIVERS
SPHERE_FIRE
SPHERE_SACRIFICE
SPHERE_WEALTH
SPHERE_SILENCE
SPHERE_FAME
SPHERE_MUSIC
SPHERE_SUN
SPHERE_DARKNESS
SPHERE_THEFT
SPHERE_LAWS
SPHERE_TRADE
SPHERE_TRADE
SPHERE_THEFT
SPHERE_TREACHERY
SPHERE_LOYALTY
SPHERE_OATHS
SPHERE_TRICKERY
SPHERE_TRUTH
SPHERE_TRUTH
SPHERE_LIES
SPHERE_TRICKERY
SPHERE_TWILIGHT
SPHERE_LIGHT
SPHERE_DARKNESS
SPHERE_DAY
SPHERE_NIGHT
SPHERE_WATER
SPHERE_FIRE
SPHERE_WEALTH
SPHERE_SACRIFICE
SPHERE_YOUTH
SPHERE_DEATH

=== Basic list of Sphere tokens ===

AGRICULTURE
ANIMALS
ART
BALANCE
BEAUTY
BIRTH
BLIGHT
BOUNDARIES
CAVERNS
CHAOS
CHARITY
CHILDREN
COASTS
CONSOLATION
COURAGE
CRAFTS
CREATION
DANCE
DARKNESS
DAWN
DAY
DEATH
DEFORMITY
DEPRAVITY
DISCIPLINE
DISEASE
DREAMS
DUSK
DUTY
EARTH
FAMILY
FAME
FATE
FERTILITY
FESTIVALS
FIRE
FISH
FISHING
FOOD
FORGIVENESS
FORTRESSES
FREEDOM
GAMBLING
GAMES
GENEROSITY
HAPPINESS
HEALING
HOSPITALITY
HUNTING
INSPIRATION
JEALOUSY
JEWELS
JUSTICE
LABOR
LAKES
LAWS
LIES
LIGHT
LIGHTNING
LONGEVITY
LOVE
LOYALTY
LUCK
LUST
MARRIAGE
MERCY
METALS
MINERALS
MISERY
MIST
MOON
MOUNTAINS
MUCK
MURDER
MUSIC
NATURE
NIGHT
NIGHTMARES
OATHS
OCEANS
ORDER
PAINTING
PEACE
PERSUASION
PLANTS
POETRY
PREGNANCY
RAIN
RAINBOWS
REBIRTH
REVELRY
REVENGE
RIVERS
RULERSHIP
RUMOR
SACRIFICE
SALT
SCHOLARSHIP
SEASONS
SILENCE
SKY
SONG
SPEECH
STARS
STORMS
STRENGTH
SUICIDE
SUN
THEFT
THRALLDOM
THUNDER
TORTURE
TRADE
TRAVELERS
TREACHERY
TREES
TRICKERY
TRUTH
TWILIGHT
VALOR
VICTORY
VOLCANOS[sic]
WAR
WATER
WEALTH
WEATHER
WIND
WISDOM
WRITING
YOUTH

[[Category:Modding]]

40d:Nickel silver

2008-08-10T21:24:40Z

Raumkraut: "dil" go

{{Alloy3|name=Nickel silver|color=#FFF|bgcolor=#CCC|color1=#CCC|color2=#880|color3=#CCC
|uses=
* [[Metalsmith's forge|Metal crafting]]
|recipe=
* 2 [[nickel]] [[bar]]s
* 1 [[copper]] [[bar]]
* 1 [[zinc]] [[bar]]
|properties=
* [[Material value]] 3
* [[Magma-safe materials|Magma proof]]
}}

'''Nickel Silver''' is not a naturally occurring [[metal]]. It can not be smelted from an [[ore]]. It must be smelted at a [[Smelter]] using the following Recipe:
* 2x [[Nickel]] + [[Copper]] + [[zinc]]

Nickel Silver has a base value of 3. It is more valuable than its components, but its main purpose is to dilute nickel to make [[magma-proof]] items. [[brass]] can be made from the copper and zinc instead, which has value 7, averaging much more value.

[[category:metals]]

40d Talk:Traffic

2008-08-09T20:13:06Z

Raumkraut: Categorisation and animal pathfinding

== Trampling food ==

"Also route them around food stockpiles, as food can get trampled, and if it happens to be a masterwork cooked dish, expect an insane cook."

Is this true? Did this change in the new version? Has anyone actually experienced such damage, unequivocally caused by traffic?

I remember some discussion of this long ago with the old version, but it turned out not to be damage due to traffic. (I think it was temperature?) —[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 00:54, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

:It was a temperature effect, according to Toady. I don't think this has changed. --[[User:Peristarkawan|Peristarkawan]] 02:20, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

::Going to remove it from the main page then, as I've never experienced trampling of things in stockpiles either. -[[User:twincannon|twincannon]]

== Effect on FPS ==

Has anyone experienced an increase or decrease in FPS when traffic zones are used heavily? I was just wondering if this helps or hurts pathfinding algorithms and how it affects game speed. [[User:Schm0|Schm0]] 06:14, 20 November 2007 (EST)

:I haven't seen much effect on FPS personally, but the algorithm Toady One uses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_star) typically has a heuristic which assumes that all tiles are weighted equally. Generally speaking, adding tiles with high movement costs can cause A* to search much larger areas than it would normally. If you are only restricting small, non-chokepoint areas though, it should never be an issue, as A* will find a route adjacent to the restricted tiles, if possible. [[User:Basilisk|Basilisk]] 02:40, 7 April 2008 (EDT)

== Jobs & pathfinding ==

I think there should be some mentions of what traffic controls, and workarounds for common problems here. For example, Traffic designations don't work for me to prevent a dwarf from standing on the wrong side of a moat while he's channeling. My current work around for this is to place a wall where I don't want him to stand, then suspend it. Then I remove the suspended wall once the channel is dug. Also, another confusing point is that traffic restriction apparently has little/no impact on job ordering. For example, say you are constructing concentric moats, and you'd like your dwarves to start on the inner moat first, then, when thats done, work on the next outer moat. Traffic restrictions will not force them to dig the inner channel first. I don't currently have a workaround for this style of problem; the wall thing doesn't seem to work for it.
[[User:Tulthix|Tulthix]] 12:38, 20 March 2008 (EDT)

:Traffic designations only affect path preferences when pathfinding. Dwarves choose their destinations without thinking about them. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 13:19, 20 March 2008 (EDT)

:A good example of traffic control would be to designate a main underground tunnel as high traffic, so that dwarves aren't trying to find shortcuts by going outside. [[User:Basilisk|Basilisk]] 02:40, 7 April 2008 (EDT)

== Animals ==

I just read in this thread: http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=22626.0 that animals will use some kind of inverse-priority for traffic designations - preferring restricted zones, and avoiding high-traffic. This should be confirmed and added as a note to the article, if true. --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 16:13, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

40d:Undead

2008-08-09T18:44:22Z

Raumkraut: Speeling and, grammar

All [[animal]]s can be encountered in [[skeletal]] or [[zombie]] varieties when visiting a [[haunted]], [[sinister]] or [[terrifying]] [[biome]]. The type of '''undead''' animal is the same as the animals which would be found in a normal biome of the same type, and they are encountered in the same size groups. As of .39c, both [[megabeast]]s and [[semi-megabeast]]s can be also be undead.

Undead are highly aggressive and will attack and chase any living creature that approaches them. Zombie animals move slowly, so [[dwarves]] can usually escape them. However skeletal animals are fast and strong, making them very dangerous. Undead creatures do not need to breathe, and all can swim in water and walk on land, including normally aquatic creatures such as whales.

Zombies start with a brown [[wound]] to all of their organs, skeletons start with grey (missing) wound status on all their organs. Both types appear to be immune to critical hits against organs, although they can still be dismembered.

When defeated, a zombie leaves a rotten [[corpse]] which should be disposed of to avoid [[miasma]]. It will eventually rot completely to leave a pile of [[bone]]s. Skeletal creatures leave a [[skull]] and [[bone]]s, which can be used immediately by a [[bone carver]].

Undead [[trees]] show on the map as {{gametext|Dead Highwood}}, but an undead {{gametext|Dead Highwood Sapling}} will still mature into a full grown tree. After cutting down, the [[log]]s are indistinguishable from those cut from a living tree.

Undead [[shrub]]s and grass are useless, though these tainted lands contain a mix of living and dead plants.

Beware undead giant eagles, as bolts have little effect upon them, and dwarves have trouble attacking them in melee.

{{Creatures}}

User talk:Logical2u

2008-08-09T03:12:07Z

Raumkraut: New page: FYI, there is a SpamReport page, for reporting spammer/vandal accounts. I just found out about that yesterday. :) --~~~~

FYI, there is a [[SpamReport]] page, for reporting spammer/vandal accounts.

I just found out about that yesterday. :)

--[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 23:12, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Water wheel

2008-08-09T03:09:22Z

Raumkraut: /* Two Quick Questions... */

==Perpetual motion machine==
I've not used waterwheels yet, so I'm unsure if this is the case, but couldn't you, theoretically, set up a perpetual motion machine using a waterwheel and a screw pump?

The article contradicts itself, it says on the first line "in" a flow, but the next line refers to a flow underneath, which is correct? [[User:Matryx|Matryx]] 17:34, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

A perpetual motion device is easy enough to setup once you have an understanding of screwpumps and power. I currently have a water wheel placed between two underground resevoirs that runs a mill and pumps water from the lower tank to the higher one. Its very energy efficient aswell. Three axles, a gear, the mill and the pump only draw 40 power leaving me 60 for other devices.

I'll try get up screenshots of it or maybe a tidier one later --[[User:Lucid|Lucid]] 19:58, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
==edit comments==

Someone removed my edit, but the water wheel actually only requires one square of water underneath it, not three. - Sludge Man

We could really use better pictures. The tileset in these screenshots is terrible, (lets use the default one) and they are very unclear. I do not understand how to build a working waterwheel after looking at this page.
==Perpetual motion again==
I removed the unclear example of a perpetual motion machine with a forum link to much clearer designs. We still need clear pictures and elaboration of the method of construction. I'll get around to it once I understand it myself, if no one beats me to it. --[[User:Turgid Bolk|Turgid Bolk]] 15:48, 5 November 2007 (EST)

: Sorry about the tilesets but I didn't think anyone would mind my custom one considering the only noticibly difference is the pump which looks like 2 barrels.
Although my screenshots were specifically for a perpetual motion machine which is why they lacked indepth wheel and pump construction.
I was hoping to create a video or some sort of tutorial to add in the construction section which dealt with creating waterwheels for someone who has absolutely no idea of any of the mechanics.

Also how reliable are the new designs?
I checked out that link and I previously toyed with designs similar to those and found them to be excellent power generators but not true perpetual motion machines, they all lost power intermittedly for varying lengths of time. --[[User:Lucid|Lucid]] 18:30, 5 November 2007 (EST)

== Perpendicular to water flow ==

Strange as it may sound, water wheels do 'not' need to be parallel to the water flow direction to work. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 16:31, 23 November 2007 (EST)
:This is as in real life - you can build a less efficient water wheel by putting the "buckets" at an angle - and indeed might put the "buckets" on a 360 degree pivot for some purposes.[[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 07:21, 8 January 2008 (EST)
===Water Flow Needed?===
::Actually there is no need for water flow at all. A water wheel seems to generate power even if it is built to a water body with no current (no "entry" or "exit" points). So basically the water wheel just needs to touch water and that's it. This is what I've noticed when confining a canal with floodgates at both ends. --[[User:Flaa|Flaa]] 07:47, 22 April 2008 (EDT)
:::This seems to have changed in a recent version. In previous versions you just had to connect a canal to a brook and the whole canal would count as 'flowing' even when nothing was moving. In my latest game this hasn't worked. So it's either changed, or the fact that I tried a 4-tile wide canal has stopped it working. --[[User:Juckto|Juckto]] 18:22, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

== Powering a Water Wheel ==

It seems that you can connect a Water Wheel to a Windmill, or other power source and cause it to spin - is there a purpose to doing this? can you move water along channels this way? What are the benefits? --[[User:SeiferTim|SeiferTim]] 12:47, 12 March 2008 (EDT)

::I think that it's because water wheels use power to run. Hence, they produce 100 power by themselves, but end up using 10 to spin, making the net power output only 90. Therefore, most likely the windmills provide that 10 power to the waterwheel. I don't think it does anything, but it does look cool.
--[[User:Umiman|Umiman]] 05:34, 27 May 2008 (EDT)

==Verify Carpenter==
Does the water wheel require carpentry to build?--[[User:Richards|Richards]] 04:11, 21 April 2008 (EDT)
:Yep--[[User:Dorten|Dorten]] 04:15, 21 April 2008 (EDT)
::Thanks Dorten.--[[User:Richards|Richards]] 04:26, 21 April 2008 (EDT)

==Minimum water level==
What is the minimum water level and flow required to power a waterwheel? --[[User:Sphexx|Sphexx]] 16:48, 27 May 2008 (EDT)

:1/7 water Hight. [[User:Hoborobo|Hoborobo]] 04:59, 8 June 2008 (EDT)-
::That doesn't sound correct to me... [[User:Juckto|Juckto]] 20:33, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

== Definition of "flow"? ==

The article states that waterwheels need flow under them, but how exactly does the game calculate this?

I was thinking that it means any water changing depth below it, but that would rule out building on a river/ocean full of 7/7 tiles. Will a waterwheel work on top of water full to the brim but supposedly "flowing" (i.e. ocean, full river)? [[User:G-Flex|G-Flex]] 8 June 2008 (EDT)

:I believe that right now a waterwheel will provide power as long as there is at least 4/7 water depth below it, or at least that is what has been the case in my experience, as I don't think a dead end channel would really provide any water flow yet a waterwheel will still provide power if place over one. --[[User:Elvang|Elvang]] 04:15, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

::Are you sure, though? Juckto (above) seems to believe the state of affairs is a bit more complicated. I guess I can just test it out for myself at some point. [[User:G-Flex|G-Flex]] 04:28, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

:::I'm sure about the minimum being 4/7, never had a waterwheel that would work below that level. Maybe it counts the water as flowing if the water depth changes during x ticks? If thats the case then a closed system would work unless you manage to get all the tiles at the same depth. I doubt the game uses a system much more complicated than that, as it would cause incredible lag checking each tile for depth, direction of flow, speed of flow, and path of least resistance. Not to mention factoring in water pressure and evaporation. Additionally, waterwheels seem to work no matter what their orientation is to the water. --[[User:Elvang|Elvang]] 04:37, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

::::Hrm, yeah, it seems like you need change of depth for it to count as "flow". Putting in the ocean just don't work.[[User:G-Flex|G-Flex]] 04:23, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

:::::Change of depth not needed. Putting it in a full river works. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 22:47, 20 July 2008 (EDT)

== Construction Key? ==

The construction area needs a key. I can't figure out what the O is supposed to be, and I only use the ASCII version of DF.--[[User:RustyMcloon|Rusty Mcloon]] 11:19, 18 July 2008 (EDT)

:It is a vertical axle. You should know, since you play the pseudo-ASCII version. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 22:47, 20 July 2008 (EDT)

== Two Quick Questions... ==

would water wheels be powered by water falling down a Z axis onto a waterwheel?

can a waterwheel be used in magma or would it burn?

-Althalus

::Water wheels need to be placed in a channel with water to be powered. AFAIK the channel doesn't have to be any longer than the water wheel, doesn't need water coming in nor going out. The game isn't clever enough yet... (shhh!)
::I think the water has to be depth:3.
::Water wheels have to be made of wood. Any machine that has magma flow through it, if it isn't made of magma-safe material, will burn/melt. You might get a bit of power for a short time but the water wheel would burn (assuming temperature is turned on which it is by default).
::To sign your name properly use the signature button on the toolbar or type "~" four times: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> [[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 21:26, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

:::Waterwheels may not be magma-safe, but the actual structure of the wheel is built one z-level above the magma, rather than in it. Thus it is entirely plausible that a waterwheel could survive being used with magma. Whether it does actually survive such circumstances, and if so whether it starts turning, could do with being tested. --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 23:09, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

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2008-08-09T03:01:36Z

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40d Talk:Elf

2008-08-05T19:39:05Z

Raumkraut: /* How do I kill elves? */

==Trading==
I have successfuly traded them Silk items in 0.27.169.32a--[[User:Draco18s|Draco18s]] 00:01, 4 November 2007 (EDT)

:Thanks for testing it, I removed the verify tag. --[[User:Turgid Bolk|Turgid Bolk]] 20:43, 4 November 2007 (EST)

I have to wonder why elves wouldn't accept anything made out of wood, when all they want to trade me is animals in wooden cages, and alcohol in wooden barrels and bows and bolts made out of wood...you know what, almost everything they wanted to trade me was made from wood... --[[User:UltimaGecko|UltimaGecko]] 01:32, 4 November 2007 (EDT)

:It's because the elves ask nicely when they take wood from a tree. Dwarves go out and TAKE IT!--[[User:Xazak|Xazak]] 14:38, 4 November 2007 (EST)

I accidentally tried to trade a wooden bucket with them. The elves scolded me, but still allowed me to trade my stone mugs and scepters. They don't leave straight away anymore.--[[User:Mechturk|Mechturk]] 01:44, 5 November 2007 (EST)

:Ah, I'm glad they're more forgiving now. Fixed. --[[User:Turgid Bolk|Turgid Bolk]] 02:14, 5 November 2007 (EST)

::They may rather be bugged now. There is a bug report that offering them something they don't like will make their mood maximally happy. --[[User:Geekwad|Geekwad]] 14:14, 19 November 2007 (EST)

:::Elfs are stupid. I traded some stone crafts for some of their wooden cages, and then i tryed to trade those same wooden cages back and they get angry at me for killing trees! [[User:Diabl0658|Diabl0658]] 12:09, 1 December 2007 (EST)

What about flours, syrups and the like? Food? The DO buy prepared meals.--[[User:Dorten|Dorten]] 00:32, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

I've noticed something new which may just be a coincidence - As I scale back my harvesting of wood from local sources (outside) the elves bring me a larger quantity of wood to trade. If I start chopping trees down for roads, etc. then they bring me less. Anyone else notice this? --[[User:Termitehead|Termitehead]] 08:49, 6 May 2008 (CST)

== Fortress in Elf Territory ==

I set one up for fun, and so far (1st winter) there's been no effect. The weirdest part is the large number of named trees; I've avoided cutting them down, and the elves haven't bothered me. I've had hunters chase and kill deer right in their midst with no ill effect as well -- it remains to be seen what happens if he misses the deer and hits an elf, though. Will report back when I find something interesting. [[User:Dolohov|Dolohov]] 10:53, 12 November 2007 (EST)

==Pissed-off the elves...==
They seem to be kinda wussy, considering that I confiscated all of their trade caravan's goods (3k in rope reed cloth of various colors and a little bit of alcohol and seeds) and I expected a siege (my fort is in a boring area, and losing is fun) but they won't attack me. I took their junk a season or two ago. When and how will they attack? --[[User:Penguinofhonor|Penguinofhonor]] 19:22, 27 November 2007 (EST)

:Elves are wusses now. It's not even known if non-evil races still siege, much less treehugging wusses like elves. -[[User:Kefkakrazy|Kefkakrazy]] 01:09, 28 November 2007 (EST)

::[[Siege]]s from non-evil races have been disabled for now. They'll be back once the war arc is complete. --[[User:Strangething|Strangething]] 15:10, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

:::I was sieged by humans in I think 39c after a merchant's guild representative was slaughtered by a goblin ambush. [[User:Mingebag|Mingebag]] 01:07, 26 July 2008 (EDT)

==Elves bringing corpses==
The elves usually bring an animal or two in cages to trade, but many times that bring cages full of corpses... It's either all alive, or all corpses. Maybe the animals died in transit? Anybody else have this happen to them?--[[User:Valdemar|Valdemar]] 22:11, 25 December 2007 (EST)

: "It's not dead, it's resting". Er, the humans do this to me too. Pretty sure it's on the known bug list. [[User:Acama|Acama]] 02:17, 30 December 2007 (EST)

:I'm rather certain that if you're in a climate that you can die from exposure, that this is what happens. Have you gotten a shipment of live animals and a shipment of dead ones while at the same site? If not, then this is almost certainly the case. If so, it's possibly a function of a random number and perhaps the extremeness of the climate. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 04:11, 30 December 2007 (EST)

::I seem to recall it being stated that this was due to the caravan passing THROUGH climates where you can die of exposure on the way to your fortress. If the path a civ needs to take runs through freezing or scorching climates, the elves don't give the animals proper temperature care and they die. In contrast, the elves seem to make it through just fine--who knows, maybe the code is slightly different for caravan entities and separate creatures that happen to be carried along with the caravan. --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 12:03, 10 January 2008 (EST)

:I actually prefer this method. I like to trap stuff myself so it makes the cages much cheaper, and the corpse can still be butchered for meat, bones, fat, and skulls. Your butcher will grab the entire cage and take it to the butcher's shop to empty it. --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 11:20, 30 December 2007 (EST)

== Elves and Animals ==

Doing some testing with using Elves in fortress mode, it seems that they will NOT be attacked by animals. Do you think we might go as far as to write in this page that [NATURAL]creatures will not attack elves? [[User:Zonk|Zonk]] 11:57, 9 January 2008 (EST)

== Elven warnings ==

The elves just warned me about cutting too many trees... I didn't realize that was still in. --[[User:Bobson|Bobson]] 17:23, 27 February 2008 (EST)

== Elven traders ==

I have read that if the human caravans are attacked too many times, that the humans will wage war on you. I have also read that if you cut down too many trees, the elves will wage war on you. But if you let the elven traders die, will they also wage war on you? --[[User:Wafl|Wafl]] 22:14, 13 April 2008 (EDT)

:Don't think so, elves got ambushed by gobbies one year and I did nothing to help them. Accidentally saved one of the traders, though, but he starved to death. --[[User:Gh3yz0r|Gh3yz0r]] 19:17, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

==Blood Covering?==

I have sold some items with blood covering with no negative effects... can anyone confirm if it's true or not? [[User:AlexFili|AlexFili]] 04:55, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

I cannot say firsthand, but I've heard in the forums and, I think, elsewhere in the Wiki that blood covering angers the elves.--[[User:RustyMcloon|Rusty Mcloon]] 23:24, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

== Speaking with Halfmen ==

What exactly is the tag that lets you speak with snakemen, ratmen, etcetera? I haven't been able to figure it out as of yet, and I want to add it to a creature I'm making.

In addition, adding the [AT_PEACE_WITH_WILDLIFE] tag didn't stop wolves and bears from ambushing and attacking me; so judging from this that is not the tag that makes them 'immune' to attacks; either that, or the wolves/bears and other large predators ignore that tag. ~ [[User:Midna|Midna]] 15:59, 14 May 2008 (EDT) (Edited later due to forgetting to add nametag)

== Elves as of .39c ==

I feel the Elves went under a pretty big overhaul in the latest version. They've turned into tree huggers who do little else but complain, to zerging cannibals who dominate worlds when given enough time. Also little things, like Elves regrowing trees around captured sites, in addition to the aforementioned personality changes, may warrant it's own section, and/or editing.

== Elven Ambushes ==

While they may not seige, They do preform Ambushes.

And I noticed something quite strange...

They ambushed with Mounts. I saw a swarm of Unicorns heading torwards my location. There where no unicorns on my map, so I sent my military to meet them, and when battle was engaged, it said "An Ambush!" And, for each Unicorn, there was also an elf (on the same square)

I'm not sure where to put this in the article though. I've been ambushed by non-mounted elves several times as well. Maybe a new section "Amubsh/Seige habits?"

:I've seen Elves ambush on unicorns too (version 0.28.181.39e), and they had no qualms about slaughtering the puppies I had tied to chains outside -[[User:Namako|Namako]] 14:09, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

== Elven Trading as of Latest Version ==

It seems to me that the elves are much, much more tolerant than before as to what items they will accept. So far I've successfully given them leather, bone, and shell crafts just fine. I have also tried offering them the same branch of items, and they will happily accept them. They even accept items that have blood on them. They will still reject pure wooden goods.
I haven't fully tested skulls, soap, or other animal byproducts yet. But if I were to hazard a guess, I would say they still will reject any item that has wood involved in it's creation, or any item with decorations of wood.
[[User:Lightning4|Lightning4]] 09:37, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

== How do I kill elves? ==

I don't like elves in my fortress and I would like to kill them with my thirty axedwarfs, how would I go about doing this? – [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:TheLastBarber|TheLastBarber]]

:You can only attack people who have come to your fortress with ill intent. Anger them enough (cut down trees, take their stuff, involve their merchants in unfortunate "accidents", etc.) and they should send forces to attack you, whereupon you can finally take joy in the slaughter. --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 15:39, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Mason's workshop

2008-08-05T04:37:35Z

Raumkraut: /* Specific Stones */

== Specific Stones ==
Is there a way to specify which stone to use for the building of an item. Say I want a mudstone door not a basalt door? [[User:Ehertlein|Ehertlein]] 12:37, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

:Not at the current time. It seems like the dwarves use the closest stone.--[[User:Mabmoro|mabmoro]] 12:54, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

::Thanks, I'll just deal with non-matching doors for now :) [[User:Ehertlein|Ehertlein]] 12:55, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

:::You can also either forbid or dump the stone that you dont want them to use via the Stock menu. Make sure your bookkeeper has put accuracy high, though, since the average fortress will have a LOT of stone.--[[User:Mabmoro|mabmoro]] 13:08, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

::Note that a dwarf will pick up and use the closest stone to where they were when they were assigned the task, which is not necessarily the closest stone to the workshop (if they were previously in a meeting area, for example). --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 00:37, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Immigration

2008-08-03T04:16:20Z

Raumkraut: Mysterious mistaken math 'moval

Don't know how much of this info is still valid. For example, the line "Notably, the incredibly useful Manager requires at least twenty dwarves." is a hold-over from the previous wiki. In fact, most of the noble-related info is outdated.
I'm going to edit out anything that I ''know'' to be wrong. Get rid of the wrong stuff, and we can start getting correct stuff in instead.[[User:Thexor|Thexor]] 19:07, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

:The validation abilities of the manager still only appear after you have 20 dwarfs. But you can access the screen before that happens. Don't know if this validation has any additional effect or if the managers even work before that.--[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (EST)

::Yes, the manager will work just fine when you have less than 20 dwarfs. He will need an office if you have more than 20 dwarfs.--[[User:Tomato|Tomato]] 16:13, 10 March 2008 (EDT)

I have a nagging sense from playing a year or two in a few different areas that the number of migrants is a bit more random now. I have one decently wealthy young outpost located far from it's civilization on the map which has gotten very few immigrants in the first two years. Perhaps with groups now moving on the overall map, it is more important to be close to your civilization's area so immigrant groups arrive more quickly and are less likely to get ambushed on the way? Pure conjecture on my part and not backed by any real evidence, but an interesting idea nonetheless. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 16:15, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

Well, my first throw-away fortress got gigantic immigration crowds every single season. Then I abandoned, rerolled the world, and started a new fortress. It produces worlds more wealth than my first fortress, but I have only gotten one immigration wave on the second Spring, bringing my numbers to 24. I then received my second immigration on the start of the third Spring, bringing me up to 48 dwarves. I was very worried up until I got that first wave in the spring... I almost thought I was going to have to scrap the fortress and start again. For reference, I receive elf, human, and dwarf traders. No sieges yet. I have no deaths so far. It would seem that the MAXIMUM immigration amount is 24 for one season. [[User:FFLaguna|FFLaguna]] 23:33, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

::I've gotten 25 immigrants in one wave, but one of these was a child, which may ironically go into the 'pets' category rather than 'dwarf' category. Do children have parents when they come with immigrants? -Gotthard
::: I've had a family of four come in one wave-Husband and Wife and 2 children. The children were very sad when their mother got killed by a goblin. I also had a dwarf born from parents in my first immigration wave. Has anyone every had two dwarfs marry? Not arrive married but get married at your fort. Just wondering if it's possible. --[[User:Angus|Angus]] 18:22, 17 February 2008 (EST)
::::With this latest version release (0.27.176.38a), dwarves can indeed marry each other at your fortress. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 04:19, 18 February 2008 (EST)

::Update: On the summer of my third year, I finally received some migrants! Woooo. I received about 12 immigrants. [[User:FFLaguna|FFLaguna]] 01:35, 4 November 2007 (EDT)

::Happend to me sometimes to, you have to wait for immigrants sometimes. --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (EST)

One point of conflict in this article. It states that once the immigration limit is reached normal immigration is ceased. It then encourages a method of editing the init file to curb immigration. It says to just reedit it when you want more dwarfs. In my findings when I use this tactic as soon as my limit is hit I get no more dwarfs, even after reediting the init file to a higher number.

The section where it says "A '''migrant''' is a member of a wave of immigration." is really obvious and there's no other information there. I think it should be removed, or at least made part of the general information. --[[User:Tachyon|Tachyon]]

--[[User:Angus|Angus]] 18:17, 17 February 2008 (EST)
==Talk Page from Migrant==
This page should be merged with the page on immigration. [[User:Bouchart|Bouchart]] 01:47, 23 November 2007 (EST)
:Agreed, and done --[[User:Juckto|Juckto]] 08:28, 2 May 2008 (EDT)

I felt this edited out info is worth keeping here as hint for further investigations.

=== Immigration Triggers ===

Migrants appear in waves when the total wealth of the fortress (view by hitting 'Z') reaches:

* 5,000
* 10,000
* 100,000
* 140,000
* 165,000 (?)
* 300,000
* 340,000

== Equipment ==

(This should probably go on the Migrant talk page, but this page seems to be busier)

Will an immigrant always arrive with the necessary equipment to perform his skills? ie, will a hunter always arrive with a crossbow, armour and bolts? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 16:08, 8 November 2007 (EST)

:nope, sometimes you get an immigrant who doesn't have the right equipment. (Had woodworkers with carpentry and wood cutting skills withouth an axe). --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 07:46, 9 November 2007 (EST)

== Combat Immigrants ==

I have yet to have any of my immigrants to show up as military types, even though I've at least produced crossbows in every fort I've run so far. Had one fort reach it's 6th year and have crafted every type of weapon available without a single dwarf showing up with combat skills. Anyone verify that this is still true? --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 04:49, 19 November 2007 (EST)

You were just unlucky. I have forged some hammers and axes and a hammer and a axe soldier showed up at my fort [[Doler 12]], 18:11 19 November 2007 (GMT+1)

:Did you maybe create a military and train dwarves in hammers and axes? --[[User:Geekwad|Geekwad]] 14:19, 19 November 2007 (EST)
:: The one and only military migrant (a Marksdwarf) I got so far came after I had someone advance to Champion level. Is this just a coincidence or have other people noticed this? --[[User:Angus|Angus]] 23:44, 19 February 2008 (EST)
:::No. I made crossbows and got marksdwarves immigrants and my best soldier was a novice crossbowman. --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 06:55, 11 March 2008 (EDT)

== Immigration Rate ==

Has anyone noticed there seems to be a logarithmic curve associated with immigration? In the beginning, it doesn't matter what I do to keep my wealth down (including only building 7 beds and a small wooden 'shack' to put them above ground, and not mining out any squares) I seem to get a ton of immigrants. However, going from 1.1M to 1.4M resulted in only 5 immigrants or so the whole year. Either there might be a 'minimum' baseline for forts (and 7 isn't it, seems closer to 25-40 or so, doesn't matter what your wealth is you will grow to that) or it is logarithmic. I don't think it is related to deaths in my large fortress, I've had one elite marksdwarf die to a hydra, and 6-7 more (in 6 years) to goblins, moods, etc. I don't have the economy, perhaps this slows it down around 100? --Gotthard 11:18, 10 December 2007 (EST)
:Heh, I'm about to test that: my first winter killed six of my dwarves so we'll see how many migrants I get. I'm currently outnumbered by dogs about 10:1... unfortunately I also lost my only mare so I've got two male horses, may as well kill both of them as soon as I need a quick snack! [[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 01:05, 11 January 2008 (EST)

== Military immigrants without weapons ==

I started a game with just one dwarf. The first immigration wave, in the next spring, I got a recruit as one of my immigrants. This recruit had NO military skills, and no armor or weapons. What confuses me is that I had never created any weapons. The only remotely military thing I ever made was a single leather armor. If it matters, I hadn't created hardly anything else before that point either--a bed, basic furniture, less than ten stone crafts, no cooking, and that armor. Anyone else seen this? It throws a kink into the "weapons bring military dwarves" thing. Oh, and I also have pits as a feature in this map if it matters (as yet unrevealed). --[[User:Sowelu|Sowelu]] 09:28, 12 January 2008 (EST)
: Did the recruit have any skills? Otherwise he's basically the same as a peasant. How many dwarfs were in your military at the time. That might also have been a factor. --[[User:Angus|Angus]] 23:47, 19 February 2008 (EST)

== Seasons and Immigration ==

I've had immigrants arrive in spring, summer and fall but never winter. Has anyone had immigrants arrive in winter? Or does whether immigrants arrive in winter depend on your fort's climate? [[User:Bouchart|Bouchart]] 22:45, 29 January 2008 (EST)
: I just had a group of dwarves migrate during winter right after reading this. I am in a warm climate though. What was strange was in the following Summer I had another wave of migrants. Two in one year. --[[User:Angus|Angus]] 23:49, 19 February 2008 (EST)

== Headline text ==

Currently, my record is 32 dwarfs, 8 kids and pets. anybody else beaten that?
--[[User:Shabang50|Shabang50]] 07:36, 15 March 2008 (EDT)

:Well, if you are sure of that, you should add it to the article. While most people seem to get smth like 20 to 25 ( my max being 19+pets), no one knows if ther's a limit and how high it is, so.. --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 08:52, 15 March 2008 (EDT)

::i regularly get 24 exactly, but on a few cases ive gotten more, most being 28, with lots of kids -[[User:Chariot|Chariot]] 14:28, 15 March 2008 (EDT)

== Strange stuff ==

Once I had a leatherworker who came onto the map and as soon as he appeared, there was a message
'dwarf has been possessed'
Strange, has this happenedto any once? Was he possessed before he came to my Fortress? --[[User:Hoborobo|Hoborobo]] 16:20, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

:That once happened to someone in the 2D version... tis quite simple. When a fey mood occurs, a random dwarf gets it. As it so happened, this dwarf had recently immigrated to your fortress. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 18:37, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

::Interesting, can't say I've come across that particular bug, although I did come across an item with no name! It was just called a "Large ." --[[User:AlexFili|AlexFili]] 04:20, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

:::It isn't a bug. The fey immigrant, not the "Large ." --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 09:10, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

== Long Dwarf ==

"A migrant has arrived."
For some reason I only got one migrant this time! Weird! --[[User:AlexFili|AlexFili]] 09:28, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

== Migrant caps ==

The cap is set in my init.txt file as 200, but in one of my fortresses I got well over 200 (something like 225). Is there anything that could cause this other than a straight-up glitch? --[[User:Tachyon|Tachyon]] 23:04, 2 August 2008 (EDT)

:The population cap is only checked to see if another migrant wave is allowed. It is entirely possible, often likely, that the actual number of migrants in the wave pushes the population over the value set. IIRC, pregnancies will also bypass the cap. The softness of this limit is a well known... feature... :) --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 00:13, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Immigration

2008-08-03T04:13:14Z

Raumkraut: /* Migrant caps */

Don't know how much of this info is still valid. For example, the line "Notably, the incredibly useful Manager requires at least twenty dwarves." is a hold-over from the previous wiki. In fact, most of the noble-related info is outdated.
I'm going to edit out anything that I ''know'' to be wrong. Get rid of the wrong stuff, and we can start getting correct stuff in instead.[[User:Thexor|Thexor]] 19:07, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

:The validation abilities of the manager still only appear after you have 20 dwarfs. But you can access the screen before that happens. Don't know if this validation has any additional effect or if the managers even work before that.--[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (EST)

::Yes, the manager will work just fine when you have less than 20 dwarfs. He will need an office if you have more than 20 dwarfs.--[[User:Tomato|Tomato]] 16:13, 10 March 2008 (EDT)

I have a nagging sense from playing a year or two in a few different areas that the number of migrants is a bit more random now. I have one decently wealthy young outpost located far from it's civilization on the map which has gotten very few immigrants in the first two years. Perhaps with groups now moving on the overall map, it is more important to be close to your civilization's area so immigrant groups arrive more quickly and are less likely to get ambushed on the way? Pure conjecture on my part and not backed by any real evidence, but an interesting idea nonetheless. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 16:15, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

Well, my first throw-away fortress got gigantic immigration crowds every single season. Then I abandoned, rerolled the world, and started a new fortress. It produces worlds more wealth than my first fortress, but I have only gotten one immigration wave on the second Spring, bringing my numbers to 24. I then received my second immigration on the start of the third Spring, bringing me up to 48 dwarves. I was very worried up until I got that first wave in the spring... I almost thought I was going to have to scrap the fortress and start again. For reference, I receive elf, human, and dwarf traders. No sieges yet. I have no deaths so far. It would seem that the MAXIMUM immigration amount is 24 for one season. [[User:FFLaguna|FFLaguna]] 23:33, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

::I've gotten 25 immigrants in one wave, but one of these was a child, which may ironically go into the 'pets' category rather than 'dwarf' category. Do children have parents when they come with immigrants? -Gotthard
::: I've had a family of four come in one wave-Husband and Wife and 2 children. The children were very sad when their mother got killed by a goblin. I also had a dwarf born from parents in my first immigration wave. Has anyone every had two dwarfs marry? Not arrive married but get married at your fort. Just wondering if it's possible. --[[User:Angus|Angus]] 18:22, 17 February 2008 (EST)
::::With this latest version release (0.27.176.38a), dwarves can indeed marry each other at your fortress. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 04:19, 18 February 2008 (EST)

::Update: On the summer of my third year, I finally received some migrants! Woooo. I received about 12 immigrants. [[User:FFLaguna|FFLaguna]] 01:35, 4 November 2007 (EDT)

::Happend to me sometimes to, you have to wait for immigrants sometimes. --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (EST)

One point of conflict in this article. It states that once the immigration limit is reached normal immigration is ceased. It then encourages a method of editing the init file to curb immigration. It says to just reedit it when you want more dwarfs. In my findings when I use this tactic as soon as my limit is hit I get no more dwarfs, even after reediting the init file to a higher number.

The section where it says "A '''migrant''' is a member of a wave of immigration." is really obvious and there's no other information there. I think it should be removed, or at least made part of the general information. --[[User:Tachyon|Tachyon]]

--[[User:Angus|Angus]] 18:17, 17 February 2008 (EST)
==Talk Page from Migrant==
This page should be merged with the page on immigration. [[User:Bouchart|Bouchart]] 01:47, 23 November 2007 (EST)
:Agreed, and done --[[User:Juckto|Juckto]] 08:28, 2 May 2008 (EDT)

I felt this edited out info is worth keeping here as hint for further investigations.

=== Immigration Triggers ===

Migrants appear in waves when the total wealth of the fortress (view by hitting 'Z') reaches:

* 5,000
* 10,000
* 100,000
* 140,000
* 165,000 (?)
* 300,000
* 340,000

== Equipment ==

(This should probably go on the Migrant talk page, but this page seems to be busier)

Will an immigrant always arrive with the necessary equipment to perform his skills? ie, will a hunter always arrive with a crossbow, armour and bolts? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 16:08, 8 November 2007 (EST)

:nope, sometimes you get an immigrant who doesn't have the right equipment. (Had woodworkers with carpentry and wood cutting skills withouth an axe). --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 07:46, 9 November 2007 (EST)

== Combat Immigrants ==

I have yet to have any of my immigrants to show up as military types, even though I've at least produced crossbows in every fort I've run so far. Had one fort reach it's 6th year and have crafted every type of weapon available without a single dwarf showing up with combat skills. Anyone verify that this is still true? --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 04:49, 19 November 2007 (EST)

You were just unlucky. I have forged some hammers and axes and a hammer and a axe soldier showed up at my fort [[Doler 12]], 18:11 19 November 2007 (GMT+1)

:Did you maybe create a military and train dwarves in hammers and axes? --[[User:Geekwad|Geekwad]] 14:19, 19 November 2007 (EST)
:: The one and only military migrant (a Marksdwarf) I got so far came after I had someone advance to Champion level. Is this just a coincidence or have other people noticed this? --[[User:Angus|Angus]] 23:44, 19 February 2008 (EST)
:::No. I made crossbows and got marksdwarves immigrants and my best soldier was a novice crossbowman. --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 06:55, 11 March 2008 (EDT)

== Immigration Rate ==

Has anyone noticed there seems to be a logarithmic curve associated with immigration? In the beginning, it doesn't matter what I do to keep my wealth down (including only building 7 beds and a small wooden 'shack' to put them above ground, and not mining out any squares) I seem to get a ton of immigrants. However, going from 1.1M to 1.4M resulted in only 5 immigrants or so the whole year. Either there might be a 'minimum' baseline for forts (and 7 isn't it, seems closer to 25-40 or so, doesn't matter what your wealth is you will grow to that) or it is logarithmic. I don't think it is related to deaths in my large fortress, I've had one elite marksdwarf die to a hydra, and 6-7 more (in 6 years) to goblins, moods, etc. I don't have the economy, perhaps this slows it down around 100? --Gotthard 11:18, 10 December 2007 (EST)
:Heh, I'm about to test that: my first winter killed six of my dwarves so we'll see how many migrants I get. I'm currently outnumbered by dogs about 10:1... unfortunately I also lost my only mare so I've got two male horses, may as well kill both of them as soon as I need a quick snack! [[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 01:05, 11 January 2008 (EST)

== Military immigrants without weapons ==

I started a game with just one dwarf. The first immigration wave, in the next spring, I got a recruit as one of my immigrants. This recruit had NO military skills, and no armor or weapons. What confuses me is that I had never created any weapons. The only remotely military thing I ever made was a single leather armor. If it matters, I hadn't created hardly anything else before that point either--a bed, basic furniture, less than ten stone crafts, no cooking, and that armor. Anyone else seen this? It throws a kink into the "weapons bring military dwarves" thing. Oh, and I also have pits as a feature in this map if it matters (as yet unrevealed). --[[User:Sowelu|Sowelu]] 09:28, 12 January 2008 (EST)
: Did the recruit have any skills? Otherwise he's basically the same as a peasant. How many dwarfs were in your military at the time. That might also have been a factor. --[[User:Angus|Angus]] 23:47, 19 February 2008 (EST)

== Seasons and Immigration ==

I've had immigrants arrive in spring, summer and fall but never winter. Has anyone had immigrants arrive in winter? Or does whether immigrants arrive in winter depend on your fort's climate? [[User:Bouchart|Bouchart]] 22:45, 29 January 2008 (EST)
: I just had a group of dwarves migrate during winter right after reading this. I am in a warm climate though. What was strange was in the following Summer I had another wave of migrants. Two in one year. --[[User:Angus|Angus]] 23:49, 19 February 2008 (EST)

== Headline text ==

Currently, my record is 32 dwarfs, 8 kids and pets. anybody else beaten that?
--[[User:Shabang50|Shabang50]] 07:36, 15 March 2008 (EDT)

:Well, if you are sure of that, you should add it to the article. While most people seem to get smth like 20 to 25 ( my max being 19+pets), no one knows if ther's a limit and how high it is, so.. --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 08:52, 15 March 2008 (EDT)

::i regularly get 24 exactly, but on a few cases ive gotten more, most being 28, with lots of kids -[[User:Chariot|Chariot]] 14:28, 15 March 2008 (EDT)

== Strange stuff ==

Once I had a leatherworker who came onto the map and as soon as he appeared, there was a message
'dwarf has been possessed'
Strange, has this happenedto any once? Was he possessed before he came to my Fortress? --[[User:Hoborobo|Hoborobo]] 16:20, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

:That once happened to someone in the 2D version... tis quite simple. When a fey mood occurs, a random dwarf gets it. As it so happened, this dwarf had recently immigrated to your fortress. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 18:37, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

::Interesting, can't say I've come across that particular bug, although I did come across an item with no name! It was just called a "Large ." --[[User:AlexFili|AlexFili]] 04:20, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

:::It isn't a bug. The fey immigrant, not the "Large ." --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 09:10, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
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== Long Dwarf ==

"A migrant has arrived."
For some reason I only got one migrant this time! Weird! --[[User:AlexFili|AlexFili]] 09:28, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

== Migrant caps ==

The cap is set in my init.txt file as 200, but in one of my fortresses I got well over 200 (something like 225). Is there anything that could cause this other than a straight-up glitch? --[[User:Tachyon|Tachyon]] 23:04, 2 August 2008 (EDT)

:The population cap is only checked to see if another migrant wave is allowed. It is entirely possible, often likely, that the actual number of migrants in the wave pushes the population over the value set. IIRC, pregnancies will also bypass the cap. The softness of this limit is a well known... feature... :) --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 00:13, 3 August 2008 (EDT)

40d Talk:Screw pump

2008-08-02T21:28:21Z

Raumkraut: /* Pumping Magma? */

40d:Stupid dwarf trick

2008-08-02T21:24:51Z

Raumkraut: /* Magma Pumping */

{{D for Dwarf}}

A '''stupid dwarf trick''' is any project that that requires a large amount time and effort, for little or no practical benefit. They exist only as a challenge for experienced players.

==Monumental Statue==

'''Difficulty:''' Depends on how big you want the statue to be.

'''Usefulness:''' None.

==Artificial Waterfall==
To keep the waterfall going, you need a [[pump]] stack, preferably powered by a [[windmill]] or [[water wheel]].

'''Difficulty:''' Moderate.

'''Usefulness:''' Dwarves love [[waterfall]]s. Putting a waterfall in your [[meeting hall]] will give your dwarves good [[thought]]s.

==Execution Tower==
Just a tall tower to chuck your captives to their deaths.

'''Difficulty:''' Easy.

'''Usefulness:''' Lets you dispose of prisoners, and claim expensive silk, meltable iron, and (eventually) useful bones.

==Bridge-a-pult==
A bridge that opens outwards, to fling enemies away. Ideally, they land in a very nasty place.

'''Difficulty:''' The hard part is the nasty place they get flung to.

'''Usefulness:''' There are a lot more effective ways to defend a fortress, but not as entertaining.

==Dam==
Build a wall across a riverbed to stop the flow of water. Floodgates optional.

'''Difficulty:''' On a map that freezes in the winter, this is easy. Otherwise, very difficult.

'''Usefulness:''' Dubious.

==[[Tower-cap]] Farm==
You absolutely need to break into an underground river or lake. Make some muddy floors over a big area and wait.

'''Difficulty:''' Moderate.

'''Usefulness:''' Yes, if it's big enough.

==Magma Pumping==
It's a lot like pumping water, only more dangerous, and requires the [[screw pump|pumps]] to use magma-proof blocks in their construction. {{verify}}

'''Difficulty:''' The difficult part is making all those bauxite pumps and floodgates. Very high risk.

'''Usefulness:''' Magma is fun, but impractical.

==Booze Bomb==
If you set barrels of booze on fire they explode. Can possibly be used as a complex trap. About the only way to start a fire on demand is magma. Possibly caged fire imps or magma men.

'''Difficulty:''' High.

'''Usefulness:''' There many easier ways to kill goblins, but few that set them on fire.

==Greenhouse==
A [[greenhouse]] is just a farm with the the ceiling channeled out from above. This lets you grow outdoor plants without venturing above ground. For the maximum style, build a glass roof to keep your farmers safe.

'''Difficulty:''' Low.

'''Usefulness:''' Surface plants are not so much more useful than underground crops. [[Rope reed]] can be grown year round.

==Gladiator Arena==
'''Difficulty:''' Moderate, but time consuming.

'''Usefulness:''' The most difficult way to dispose of prisoners. It does give your soldiers a little bit of experience.

==Self Destruct Lever==
'''Difficulty:''' Very high. Extremely dangerous.

'''Usefulness:''' None. By definition.

==Flood the World==
'''Difficulty:''' High danger. Will kill your frame rate.

'''Usefulness:''' Will prevent any sieges, at least. Or anything else.

==[[Ballista]] Battery==
Overlap a few ballistas to completely cover a narrow corridor. There is an unavoidable risk of your operators wandering into the line of fire.

'''Difficulty:''' Low. If you insist on highly-trained operators with high-quality ballistas, it gets harder.

'''Usefulness:''' A complicated and dangerous way to defend a single corridor.

==[[Swimming]] pool==
It's a reservoir that fills to 4/7 exactly. Station soldiers inside, lock them in, and fill. This way they gain [[swimming]] skill.

'''Difficulty:''' Low. It's just a pair of reservoirs.

'''Usefulness:''' The swimming skill is only slightly useful.

==[[Ice]] tower==
'''Difficulty:''' Low. You need to be on a freezing map to pull it off.

'''Usefulness:''' None.

==[[Obsidian]] factory==
You need one reservoir of water, and one of magma. Mix, cool and mine.

'''Difficulty:''' Medium.

'''Usefulness:''' High.

==Drowning Chamber==
'''Difficulty:''' Moderate.

'''Usefulness:''' You can kill prisoners, useless peasants, irate nobles, hammerers, untrainable animals, or anything else.

==Magma Chamber==
'''Difficulty:''' Dangerous as any magma project.

'''Usefulness:''' It's like a drowning chamber, but you can't recover most of the victim's stuff.

==Labyrinth==
'''Difficulty:''' It's a lot of mining. Having a bridge drop invaders inside is more difficult, but more useful.

'''Usefulness:''' It makes a nice element of fortress defense, and you can dump your prisoners inside it.

==[[Adventure Mode]] Fortress==
'''Difficulty:''' The sky's the limit.

'''Usefulness:''' Not applicable.

==Vomitorium==
It's like the greenhouse, only instead of a farm, it's meeting hall. Prevents [[cave adaption]].

'''Difficulty:''' Low.

'''Usefulness:''' Low.

40d Talk:Stupid dwarf trick

2008-08-02T21:23:42Z

Raumkraut: Note on prior magma-pumping edits

== Magma pumping ==
Thanks for the update [[user:Cizra|Cizra]], I've modified it to be more encyclopedic. :) I think more research/verification of which parts of [[screw pump|pumps]] need to be magma-proof is warranted. --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 17:23, 2 August 2008 (EDT)

40d:Stupid dwarf trick

2008-08-02T21:17:57Z

Raumkraut: /* Magma Pumping */

{{D for Dwarf}}

A '''stupid dwarf trick''' is any project that that requires a large amount time and effort, for little or no practical benefit. They exist only as a challenge for experienced players.

==Monumental Statue==

'''Difficulty:''' Depends on how big you want the statue to be.

'''Usefulness:''' None.

==Artificial Waterfall==
To keep the waterfall going, you need a [[pump]] stack, preferably powered by a [[windmill]] or [[water wheel]].

'''Difficulty:''' Moderate.

'''Usefulness:''' Dwarves love [[waterfall]]s. Putting a waterfall in your [[meeting hall]] will give your dwarves good [[thought]]s.

==Execution Tower==
Just a tall tower to chuck your captives to their deaths.

'''Difficulty:''' Easy.

'''Usefulness:''' Lets you dispose of prisoners, and claim expensive silk, meltable iron, and (eventually) useful bones.

==Bridge-a-pult==
A bridge that opens outwards, to fling enemies away. Ideally, they land in a very nasty place.

'''Difficulty:''' The hard part is the nasty place they get flung to.

'''Usefulness:''' There are a lot more effective ways to defend a fortress, but not as entertaining.

==Dam==
Build a wall across a riverbed to stop the flow of water. Floodgates optional.

'''Difficulty:''' On a map that freezes in the winter, this is easy. Otherwise, very difficult.

'''Usefulness:''' Dubious.

==[[Tower-cap]] Farm==
You absolutely need to break into an underground river or lake. Make some muddy floors over a big area and wait.

'''Difficulty:''' Moderate.

'''Usefulness:''' Yes, if it's big enough.

==Magma Pumping==
It's a lot like pumping water, only more dangerous, and requires the pumps to use magma-proof blocks in their construction. {{verify}}

'''Difficulty:''' The difficult part is making all those bauxite pumps and floodgates. Very high risk.

'''Usefulness:''' Magma is fun, but impractical.

==Booze Bomb==
If you set barrels of booze on fire they explode. Can possibly be used as a complex trap. About the only way to start a fire on demand is magma. Possibly caged fire imps or magma men.

'''Difficulty:''' High.

'''Usefulness:''' There many easier ways to kill goblins, but few that set them on fire.

==Greenhouse==
A [[greenhouse]] is just a farm with the the ceiling channeled out from above. This lets you grow outdoor plants without venturing above ground. For the maximum style, build a glass roof to keep your farmers safe.

'''Difficulty:''' Low.

'''Usefulness:''' Surface plants are not so much more useful than underground crops. [[Rope reed]] can be grown year round.

==Gladiator Arena==
'''Difficulty:''' Moderate, but time consuming.

'''Usefulness:''' The most difficult way to dispose of prisoners. It does give your soldiers a little bit of experience.

==Self Destruct Lever==
'''Difficulty:''' Very high. Extremely dangerous.

'''Usefulness:''' None. By definition.

==Flood the World==
'''Difficulty:''' High danger. Will kill your frame rate.

'''Usefulness:''' Will prevent any sieges, at least. Or anything else.

==[[Ballista]] Battery==
Overlap a few ballistas to completely cover a narrow corridor. There is an unavoidable risk of your operators wandering into the line of fire.

'''Difficulty:''' Low. If you insist on highly-trained operators with high-quality ballistas, it gets harder.

'''Usefulness:''' A complicated and dangerous way to defend a single corridor.

==[[Swimming]] pool==
It's a reservoir that fills to 4/7 exactly. Station soldiers inside, lock them in, and fill. This way they gain [[swimming]] skill.

'''Difficulty:''' Low. It's just a pair of reservoirs.

'''Usefulness:''' The swimming skill is only slightly useful.

==[[Ice]] tower==
'''Difficulty:''' Low. You need to be on a freezing map to pull it off.

'''Usefulness:''' None.

==[[Obsidian]] factory==
You need one reservoir of water, and one of magma. Mix, cool and mine.

'''Difficulty:''' Medium.

'''Usefulness:''' High.

==Drowning Chamber==
'''Difficulty:''' Moderate.

'''Usefulness:''' You can kill prisoners, useless peasants, irate nobles, hammerers, untrainable animals, or anything else.

==Magma Chamber==
'''Difficulty:''' Dangerous as any magma project.

'''Usefulness:''' It's like a drowning chamber, but you can't recover most of the victim's stuff.

==Labyrinth==
'''Difficulty:''' It's a lot of mining. Having a bridge drop invaders inside is more difficult, but more useful.

'''Usefulness:''' It makes a nice element of fortress defense, and you can dump your prisoners inside it.

==[[Adventure Mode]] Fortress==
'''Difficulty:''' The sky's the limit.

'''Usefulness:''' Not applicable.

==Vomitorium==
It's like the greenhouse, only instead of a farm, it's meeting hall. Prevents [[cave adaption]].

'''Difficulty:''' Low.

'''Usefulness:''' Low.

40d Talk:Mandate

2008-08-02T21:13:05Z

Raumkraut: /* Export ban violation without trading? */

== Melting items and mandates ==

I had a noble who had a mandate for two bronze goods. I melted down some bronze things and made a bronze bar from it. But that didn't seem to satisfy the mandate; he still wanted 2 bronze goods. Making bronze bars normally satisfies the mandates though. Can anyone else verify that making bars by melting things wont satisfy a mandate? --[[User:Bouchart|Bouchart]] 23:27, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

:I can verify that bars do not count towards mandates as I tried the same thing. You will need to make 2 bronze items to satisfy the mandate. --[[User:Actreal|Actreal]] 00:54, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

== Item availability ==

If a noble mandates adamantine items, does that mean there is adamantine on my map? --Dashing, June 25 2008

:No. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 23:42, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

== Export ban violation without trading? ==

My mayor announced an export ban on bins. (Thanks a lot, mayor.) I brought a bunch of bins containing finished goods to the depot, but am quite certain I traded away only the goods inside and not the bins themselves. Yet, afterwards, I have seven dwarves on the Justice page nailed for violating that ban. Can anyone confirm that simply bringing the goods to the depot is enough to violate an export ban, even if the items are not traded away? --[[User:Mattmoss|Mattmoss]] 16:39, 2 August 2008 (EDT)

:This will likely be because of [http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/dev_bugs.html#Bug91 Bug 91]: items already belonging to merchants count towards mandates. So all those bins of cloth and such that the caravans brought along, and then left with, would have violated the mandate. --[[User:Raumkraut|Raumkraut]] 17:13, 2 August 2008 (EDT)