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User talk:Riznar

2010-05-08T02:41:42Z

Riznar: /* Draltha Butcher Values */

== Redirect Google ==
I'm not sure what you mean. When I search this wiki with google I get this:

http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fdf.magmawiki.com%2F+well&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

The first link goes to the place I expect it to go to.

Can you explain further what you're doing? Thanks [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 17:42, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
:Google search seems to work fine for me on this computer and every other computer I've tried. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 17:49, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
::When I searched with this query (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dwarf+fortress+mason&aq=f&aqi=g1g-c1g3&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=) it gave me a link that goes back to (http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Dwarf_Fortress_Wiki:Magmawiki) when I click it. --[[User:Riznar|Riznar]] 18:34, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
:::It's because Google is returning a link to '''magmawiki.com''' rather than '''df.magmawiki.com'''. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 18:55, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

==Draltha Butcher Values==
You know, you don't need to be in Fort Mode in order to butcher Draltha. Just go into the raws, find "creature_next_underground.txt", scroll down to the Draltha entry and then remove the [ARENA_RESTRICTED] tag. This will let you spawn them in arena mode. The arena has functionality to instantly butcher corpses and bodyparts on the spot.

Oh, yeah, one more thing... Butchering amounts are affected by the physical characteristics of the creature. All that "She is gigantic", "He is belarded by hanging rolls of fat" stuff? It actually means something. --[[User:Kagus|Kagus]] 17:46, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks for the tip about the arena. I knew about the muscle, size, and fat multipliers, I was going to try to figure out the base. Maybe I still will later.--[[User:Riznar|Riznar]] 02:41, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Riznar

2010-05-05T18:34:11Z

Riznar:

User talk:Mason11987

2010-05-05T17:35:13Z

Riznar: /* Redirects from google? */

<center><div style="align:center;width:50%;border: 1px solid;margin: 10px 0px;padding:15px 10px 15px 50px;background-repeat: no-repeat;background-position: 10px center;background-color: #BDE5F8;">'''Hi, if you'd like to leave me a message click [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Mason11987&action=edit&section=new here]. I'll respond here. If I leave a message on your talk page, please respond there. Thanks!'''</div></center>

== What about <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:version|version]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki>? ==

Did you have something like this in mind? [[:category:version]] [[template:version]] (: [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 21:32, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

[[Dwarf Fortress Wiki talk:Versions]] [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 22:18, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
: I set it up intending for it to be more of a staging namespace for us. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 00:42, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

== Your message to me ==

ie, [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/User_talk:GarrieIrons#Dwarf_Fortress_Wiki:Versions here]

Thanks for [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/User_talk:GarrieIrons#Dwarf_Fortress_Wiki:Versions the link].

Is the intent to mark every article with a version number?
[[User:GarrieIrons|Gar]][[User Talk:GarrieIrons|rie]] 10:00, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

:The intent is to mark every relevant article with the version it is up to date as of. So effectively yes. In order to let users know the page is up to date, and editors to know that it needs to be updated. If you have more questions about my suggestion you could use the talk page for that link I gave you so everyone else can participate. Thanks. [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] ([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]]) 11:46, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

== DF2010 ==

So I realize you're proud of the meme you're starting, but please stop spreading it. Here is why:
* There is going to be more than one version of DF in 2010. If the terminology sticks, it will only throw people off.
* The wiki is going to have specific labels for versions, even if they have nicknames elsewhere. The only issue is who will edit them in. If you entice many people into using "DF2010" in wiki articles, there will be more for me to clean up. PSo even though it feels good to spread it, please understand you are doing harm. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 16:22, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

It seems I misunderstood your goal here. Although it would be a problem if you were trying to make the term permanent, apparently you're not. So I take back what I said about causing harm. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 19:48, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

P.S: If you don't want to be misunderstood, there are ways to fight that. I still plan to take what you say seriously, although I guess I can stop if that's something you want.

I'm a bit confused here. Why are you attacking me? [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 13:11, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

== Uncategorized Pages ==

It doesn't appear I can actually do that without seriously hacking the software. I'm still looking, but the code to find uncategorized pages is such a clusterfuck of stupid that we may be out of luck. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 02:56, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

== Premature Arenalation ==

Hey. It seems that back the end of January you edited the [[Arena]] page, removing the redirect to [[cage#Arena]] and replacing it with a statement that "'''Arenas are now in the game!'''" - which is awkward, considering they aren't, and that there are links to "arena" in a variety of articles, and that it's not an uncommon search word. Already confused at least one user. I hid that text for now. Once 2010 is up and running, that page will ''continue'' as a redirect for 40d, and a new current-version "Arena" article will be needed with the new info. --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 16:40, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
:Hey - yeah, from the date I figured as much. I guess (without saying so) I wanted to suggest that if you thought there were any others sim, try to track them down. All good, didn't mean anything else. Readya later.--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 04:38, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

== File Uploads ==

Let me check the logs to troubleshoot. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 13:16, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Custom JS ==

It is indeed enabled. See [[df: Useful scripts|useful scripts]]. [[user:Emi|Emi]] [[user_talk:Emi|[T]]] 01:38, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Briess already knew! [[user:Emi|Emi]] [[user_talk:Emi|[T]]] 01:58, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
::Indeed. I know everything. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 02:03, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== Moving pages ==

Mason,

How do you move pages on a wiki such as this? I'd like to move my page and my talk page to an "old" 40d page and start a new one.

Thanks.
--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 05:00, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

== Why and how ==

I can answer both of these questions for you, Mason. Since a rational person (eg: you) would want the answers to these questions before deciding if it's "madness", I'm putting the answer on your talk page rather than the important-sounding "Central Discussion" page. I'll start with the why and then go into the how. 

Why:
Having small summaries for a large number of in-game items is convenient. A person can just type the name of the thing into the search bar and get information directly related to that thing and some useful links that lead to more. However, this leads to a few problems; we want each of these to have accurate information and we want them to be formatted consistently. Also, we want to not have to comb through a large number of articles every time something changes. How can we accomplish this? Well, it turns out all of the information describing these things is contained in the raw files for DF, and people have been creating articles by hand translating it into the wiki for a long time. This is a huge waste of effort. So right now I'm working on some templates to automatically pull information from the raw data files. 

How:
There are a few templates that use regular expressions to search the raw data files that have been placed on the wiki. I'll list here what they do.

* The first is [[Template:raw]]. This template looks for the raw entry of a thing inside the file you specify. It then returns the raw entry.
* The next important one is [[Template:tag]]. Given a chunk of raw data, it can tell you whether or not it contains a particular token, like SEDIMENTARY. However, this is just a true or false value. It doesn't actually pull information from inside something like "[ENVIRONMENT:SEDIMENTARY:VEIN:100]". For that you need
* [[Template:tagentry]]. Given a chunk of raw data, a token to look for, and an offset, it will return the corresponding information. So if I wanted to pull out the SEDIMENTARY part of that ENVIRONMENT tag, I could do it like so: <nowiki>{{tagentry|[ENVIRONMENT:SEDIMENTARY:VEIN:100]|ENVIRONMENT|1}}</nowiki>. There's a limitation to this one too, though. It only takes information from the first one it encounters. To handle things with more than one ENVIRONMENT token, we need to use
* [[Template:Foreachtag]]. This one is a little complicated. In addition to the parameters of the previous ones, it also has capture1, capture2, .. capture5, string1, .. string6. This template replaces each instance of the token you specify with string1capture1string2...capture5string6, where the "capture" parameters specify parts of the token and the "string" parts are literal strings you want to intersperse between them. 

Given these tools, we have [[template:stonelookup]], which finds the raw data of any mineral, pulls out some information, formats it to look pretty, and passes it on to [[template:mineral]]. If the name of the mineral you want to do this for is specified by the page name, you can use [[template:stonelookup/0]] instead. Oh, and if you specify uses= and properties= for this and similar templates, it should just pass them on to [[template:mineral]].

Hope that helps. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 22:36, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

== Search Namespaces ==

Apparently, it's quite a bit of a hack to do so. I know the current 1 namespace at a time thing isn't exactly optimal, but it's the best we can do at the moment unless I hack at the codebase (the function responsible for processing recent changes params doesn't accept more than one namespace input) --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 00:04, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

== raws ==

Are you talking about the /raw pages? [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 14:40, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

:Hmm. I think something can be arranged. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 14:42, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

== Redirects from google? ==

When I search the wiki via google I am always redirected to the wiki front page.

I was wondering what the reason for this decision was, I personally find it annoying but I'm one person.
--[[User:Riznar|Riznar]] 17:35, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Mason11987

2010-05-05T17:35:01Z

Riznar: /* Redirects from google? */ new section

v0.31 Talk:Draltha

2010-05-04T04:14:04Z

Riznar: Nevermind, I was forgotten beast'd and now catching a Draltha is impossible for the near future

I noticed these being drawn to my unwalled farms. They did not do any damage to the farm, though they did eat mature tower caps. -- [[User:Tallyho|Tallyho]] 17:47, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
:Seriously? I wasn't aware that they actually could eat tower-caps, I figured it was just flavor text (for now). In fact, I can't find anything in the raws that would indicate that they do munch on them. Would you mind terribly double-checking to make sure that they are, in fact, eating/removing the tower-caps? --[[User:Kagus|Kagus]] 22:39, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

v0.31 Talk:Draltha

2010-05-02T21:56:44Z

Riznar:

v0.31 Talk:Draltha

2010-05-02T21:56:32Z

Riznar: