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		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Magma&amp;diff=10411</id>
		<title>40d:Magma</title>
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		<updated>2007-11-24T14:03:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Slumber: /* Finding magma */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Magma serves as an energy source, powering [[magma furnace]]s and [[magma smelter]]s.  It is extremely dangerous.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Finding magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While in previous versions of Dwarf Fortress, every map was guaranteed to have magma, since v0.27.169.32a magma is now a feature of terrain and may or may not be present.&lt;br /&gt;
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Magma that reaches all the way to the surface is visible on the &amp;quot;local&amp;quot; screen in the starting location chooser.  It is represented as a red ≈ mark (a double tilde) - essentially it looks like red water.  Note that red ≈ marks in the &amp;quot;region&amp;quot; screen mean something different entirely (e.g. red sand). However, it IS actually possible for a volcano that shows up on the &amp;quot;local&amp;quot; and region screen in the starting location chooser to be entirely underground - Although you could see it in the starting location chooser, it would not be visible from the surface once your dwarves have arrived at the fort's site.&lt;br /&gt;
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While picking a starting location, the easiest place to look for magma is on or near a [[volcano]] (a red ^ mark in the &amp;quot;region&amp;quot; screen).  There are often volcanic islands (easy to find, since they are the sole land in the middle of oceans), but since sea travel is not yet implemented. trade with other races may not be possible on such islands.  Instead, find a volcano on land, and (optionally) start looking for a vent in nearby squares.  &amp;quot;Nearby squares&amp;quot; can mean anything from literally on top of the volcano, to adjacent, to quite a long distance away indeed.  The placement of magma seems to be related to the distance from volcanoes, but is still essentially random.&lt;br /&gt;
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Much harder than simply finding a magma vent is finding a magma vent that is also near suitable terrain for building.  Depending on your requirements - you may be looking for a source of running water, or a mountain for minerals, or a healthy tree population, or even all three - suitable building sites can be extremely scarce.&lt;br /&gt;
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Since volcanos show up on the region finder, and magma vents do not, you may find it easier to simply check all volcanos on a map for suitability, and generate a new world if none are suitable, rather than scouring tile after tile for magma vents.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you're willing to search exhaustively, you might want to consider finding magma vents that are not near volcanoes at all.  Very occasionally, magma will be visible in the middle of forests, plains, or other terrain nowhere near a volcano or even mountains.  There is no way to spot these on the region map, so the only way to identify them is to scroll past hundreds of local maps while keeping an eye out for the distinctive red ≈ symbol.&lt;br /&gt;
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You can also occasionally find magma that does not extend all the way to the surface, and therefore is not visible on the local map.  It is almost impossible to find without cheating via one of the [[utilities]] like &amp;quot;reveal.exe&amp;quot;, since unlike proper magma vents these smaller deposits will only be on a few levels, and must be almost literally mined into to see (you will get a warning about &amp;quot;warm stone&amp;quot; before you actually breach the deposit).  Presumably, small magma deposits are also most common near volcanoes.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Using magma ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On a map with a magma vent, the magma will be clearly visible from every level ground and below, unless the map is in a Freezing area. In Freezing areas, the top few levels of the vent will have cooled to form an obsidian &amp;quot;cap&amp;quot;. This should still be readily recognizable however, as it will comprise a circular area. The minerals directly adjacent to the magma vent will also be immediately visible, even at the lowest level of the map, which can give some hints about where to prospect for ores.&lt;br /&gt;
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The vent has a similar, circular shape on each level.  However, it is not identical from one level to the next; some levels will have a larger or somewhat misshapen circle of magma.&lt;br /&gt;
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The primary use for magma is to power magma smelters and forges.  (There are other uses, including defense and possibly even garbage disposal.)  To build forges, etc on magma, at least one of the external eight squares must be above a square of magma.&lt;br /&gt;
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This can be done most easily by simply building on ground level.  The magma is visible from ground level but is actually contained one level below ground level, just like any ground-level water source.&lt;br /&gt;
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To build underground, you will need to dig at least one tile of a [[channel]] above the location you wish to build the smelter or forge.  Underneath this channel there must be magma, either directly from the vent or channeled from the vent.  Use channels to tap into the magma on the level below safely (this is easier if there is more magma on the lower level than the level you wish to build on.  Actually tapping into magma directly, on the same level, instead of using channels, is likely to result in the death of your miner.&lt;br /&gt;
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To build far away from the magma vent, a long channel will be needed to funnel the magma. Note that magma that is cut off from the vent will harden into obsidian, preventing the use of [[floodgates]] to seal the flow. Buildings that come in contact with the magma (such as forges) need not be built of steel - only bridges, which are conceptually submerged in magma, require steel items.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is also important to note that at this time Toady has stated that magma doesn't replenish.[http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&amp;amp;f=7&amp;amp;t=001504]  Therefore depending on the amount of magma available it may be inadvisable to attempt to move it across too great a distance or use it in any form of defense that consumes it in the process e.g. steam.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Temperature settings ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Magma is almost harmless if temperature is disabled in the Dwarf Fortress init file.  It can still trap and suffocate or simply starve your dwarves in some situations.  It will not melt floodgates, etc. constructed of non-[[magma-proof]] materials.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Magma reactions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Water: if magma happens to contact water it produces some steam and obsidian. This means there is no chance of using a prolonged contact between the two to create a steam trap.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rocks: [[stone|rock]]s leftover from mining will melt when magma cover them.&lt;br /&gt;
*Speed: magma move relatively slowly. While it is impossible to try to seal off water let loose, magma is slow enough for your dwarves to build a floodgate, a door or even wall the flooding area if you happen to let magma loose by mistake.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Physics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Slumber</name></author>
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		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Noble&amp;diff=3454</id>
		<title>40d:Noble</title>
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		<updated>2007-11-20T19:13:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Slumber: /* Appointments */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Nobles are dwarves that have special duties in addition to or instead of the duties of normal dwarves.  Some nobles also have various privileges that normal dwarves do not, and will demand certain accommodations, like a [[Room#Room_grades|better office]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Settings specific to each noble can be set on the [[Nobles_Screen|Nobles &amp;amp; Administrators Screen]], accessible via the {{key|n}} key.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Appointments ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
These are nobles you can appoint through the Nobles &amp;amp; Administrators Screen.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Expedition leader]]: Listens to the complaints of other dwarves to make them happier.  Uses [[social skills]]. Is the noble who meets with outpost liaisons. It does not seem possible to reassign this post &amp;amp;ndash; at least while the original holder of the title remains alive. Your initial expedition leader is chosen based on managerial skills. You will find that your broker is often 'volunteered' for this job by the other dwarves.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Note that if there is no obvious candidate for Expedition Leader, it is chosen randomly. Additionally, if your Expedition Leader is slain and you do not choose a new one, a random dwarf will be volunteered for the job after about half a season.&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Mayor]]: Promoted from expedition leader at 50 dwarves. Unlike the expedition leader, he requires decent housing and will make [[mandate]]s. Is replaced every couple of years.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Outpost broker]]: Utilizes the [[appraiser]] skill and [[social skills]].  Is usually the person you send to the depot to do your trading.  Lets you see the imported/exported wealth of your fortress.&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[Hamlet broker]] after 20 dwarfs.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[Village broker]] after 50 dwarfs.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[Town broker]] after 80 dwarfs.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[City broker]] after 110 dwarfs.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[Metropolis broker]] after 140 dwarfs.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Outpost manager]]: Utilizes the [[organizer]] skill.  Allows the use of item build queues through the {{K|j}}obs -&amp;gt; {{K|m}}anager screen. Will need an office to do this (validating work orders) once your fortress has twenty dwarves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[Hamlet manager]] after 20 dwarfs.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[Village manager]] after 50 dwarfs.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[Town manager]] after 80 dwarfs.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[City manager]] after 110 dwarfs.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[Metropolis manager]] after 140 dwarfs.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Bookkeeper]]: Utilizes the [[record keeper]] skill.  Lets you see the stocks of your fortress. Needs to do occasional jobs in an office of their own if you want precise stock keeping: otherwise, stock numbers will only be precise to one significant figure (e.g., 7163 -&amp;gt; 7000, 7823 -&amp;gt; 8000).&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[treasurer]] at 100,000 fortress wealth.&lt;br /&gt;
** Further upgrades to [[grand treasurer]] at 200,000 fortress wealth.&lt;br /&gt;
** Further upgrades to [[hoardmaster]] at 300,000 fortress wealth.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Sheriff]]: You may choose a dwarf to become the Sheriff after your fortress reaches a population of 20.&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Captain of the guard]]: Promoted from the sheriff once you reach 50 dwarves, along with the [[mayor]]. Activates [[fortress guard]].&lt;br /&gt;
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There is substantial overlap between the expedition leader and the outpost broker's skills, so you may wish to assign them as the same person if you have time for one dwarf to both meet with traders and meet with the outpost liaison.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Immigrant Nobles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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These nobles appear in immigration waves and cannot be appointed by the player.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Dungeon master]]: Trains and cares for animals and performs miscellaneous metalsmithing tasks.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Philosopher]]: Has no labor options turned on, but has no requirements and makes no mandates.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Baron|Baron(ess)]]: Activates [[dwarven economy]]. {{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[Count|Count(ess)]] at 125. {{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrade to [[Duke/Duchess]] at 140. {{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Baron Consort|Baron(ess) Consort]]: Arrives with the [[Baron|Baron(ess)]].&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[Count(ess) Consort]] at 125. {{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrade to [[Duke Consort]] at 140. {{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[King]]: Little is known about the king at this point.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Hammerer]]: He will enforce the law with his mighty hammer.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tax collector]] &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Nobles]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Slumber</name></author>
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		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Noble&amp;diff=10066</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Noble</title>
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		<updated>2007-11-20T19:06:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Slumber: /* Not 100? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Added the dungeon keeper noble. He just showed up at my fort in year 1053. --[[Idles]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm &amp;quot;fixing&amp;quot; the change, &amp;quot;16:59, 31 October 2007 Lightning4 (Talk | contribs) (1,934 bytes) (→Appointments - Isn't called bookkeeper, at least when the fortress is new.)&amp;quot;, because in my forts it IS called bookkeeper when the fortress starts.  Other edits have backed me up, suspect editor was confused--Please discuss this here? --[[User:Sowelu|Sowelu]] 15:09, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I apologize, I was indeed incorrect. You do start with a Bookkeeper, which in very short order can be upgraded to a Treasurer. Unsure of requirements, possibly only requires 20 dwarves like the sheriff. My fortress has one and I haven't even done anything besides changed who had bookkeeping and set it to higher priority (did not build study yet). That's probably what got me confused since the bookkeeper upgrades very quickly. [[User:Lightning4|Lightning4]] 18:11, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yeah, 20 dwarves sounds accurate enough to put in there.  He didn't turn when I had only 17. --[[User:Sowelu|Sowelu]] 18:14, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Your original expedition leader will be the fourth dwarf down in the starting screen(the one in the middle).&amp;quot; This does not seem to hold true; I have a newly-developed habit of making the last dwarf on the screen (used to be my designated hauler-peasant) into the administrator, with all the social skills for filling the four starter noble roles. He gets auto-assigned to all four administrative positions; I'm thinking that instead of being fixed or random, the starting assignment is based on social skills. --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 00:29, 1 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I had a Philosopher show up last night. I'm unsure of the requirement to get him; the only really notable thing that had happened was I got over 100 dwarves. I'm adding him to the list of Nobles, though, since I can confirm he still exists in the new version. I also divided the page structure between Appointed and Immigrant nobles, since the current header was misleading (Dungeon Master and Philosopher cannot be appointed). --[[User:Zurai|Zurai]] 20:55, 10 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I had the king show up tonight.  &amp;quot;The King arrives, dressed as a peasant.&amp;quot;  I have no idea what the requirements were.  I missed the 1051 and 1052 dwarf caravans due to prolonged sieges, and had no immigrants those years.  1053 I had the caravan; a season later a wave of immigration brought my total dwarves up to 37.  In the spring the king arrived, along with enough others to bring the population to 63.  At that time I was notified that the Captain of the Guard position was available.  Only thing I can think is that I hit adamantine during the siege years, and mistakenly built a number of ridiculously valuable adamantine objects. (Door, Coffin, etc.)  This has raised my fortress value to 1.3 million.  Is 1 million value perhaps the trigger?  I have no coins, and no nobles other than the starting 4 positions.  I did not appoint a sheriff. [[User:Doctorlucky|Doctorlucky]] 04:15, 15 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:In the last version, hitting adamantine without proper requirement for the king triggered the reaction of having the king arrive dressed as a paysant. Maybe it's the same here. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 04:20, 15 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
== What determines expedition leader? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There are a number of situations to test out:&lt;br /&gt;
* No social skills on any dwarves&lt;br /&gt;
** ''Probably random, possibly based on the Dwarf's thoughts and preferences''&lt;br /&gt;
* Majority of social skills on one dwarf (various positions in start order)&lt;br /&gt;
** ''Test case 1: only one dwarf has social skills - gives that dwarf as leader and all positions''&lt;br /&gt;
* Social skills spread between multiple dwarves&lt;br /&gt;
** Is there any weight on which skill determines the leader?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Shagie|Shagie]] 01:25, 1 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Is the first point certain?  In my current fortress, I didn't assign any social skills to any dwarf, and I'm pretty certain that the dwarf that ended up expedition leader was the seventh in the list. --[[User:Peristarkawan|Peristarkawan]] 02:28, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::In my current fort I assigned no social skills and the first dwarf in the list, one of my miners, is the expedition leader. --[[User:Moller|Moller]] 02:40, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Might be randomised then, I started three new fortresses for the test and each time it was the same so I made an assumption. Obviously this isn't the case can you two check what thoughts/prefs you have for those so we can look for some leadership criteria. --[[User:Shades|Shades]] 08:10, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::It's almost always been the first dwarf for me (assuming no one had leadership skills), but I could have sworn one time it assigned someone else. Maybe it defaults to the first dwarf on the list but can sometimes choose someone else under certain conditions. [[User:Rpb|Rpb]] 22:29, 10 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Perhaps the first dwarf didn't get it because of negative preferences? Some dwarves have a line in their thoughts/prefs that reads something like &amp;quot;X prefers to let others take leadership roles&amp;quot;. [[User:Tocky|Tocky]] 11:04, 11 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Room requirements==&lt;br /&gt;
Maybe something about the nobles requiring better rooms and how to build them? --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 15:15, 4 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Found it in [[room]]s, adding a link. --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 15:34, 4 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Not 100? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just received migrants.  My population went from 76 to 100, and my settlement went from a village to a town.  No nobles arrived with the migrants. [[User:Geekwad|Geekwad]] 17:14, 18 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Still a town at 108&lt;br /&gt;
:Another wave, and we're a city at 111 (migrants still incoming)&lt;br /&gt;
::My population went from 101 to 126 in one wave.  A Baroness arrived at the same time and turned my settlement into a Barony.  Shortly afterwards, my settlement turned into a County (125+ dwarves?).  Then Baroness upgraded into a Countess.  Baron consort upgraded to a Count Consort.--[[User:Slumber|Slumber]] 16:49, 19 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Next immigration wave, my pop hit 138.  Nothing happens.  Then next immigration wave, my pop hits 141, the Countess upgrades to Duchess and the Count Consort upgrades to Duke Consort.  Also, &amp;quot;Incoming King&amp;quot; is the top line on the Nobles screen.  When you select it, it shows you what you need to achieve in terms of 1. architecture value (15000) 2. road value (5000) and 3. offerings value. (5000).  I'm not sure what criteria triggers the King as it happened at the same time as my Duchess.  I did just hit 200k exported wealth.  Conincedence? --[[User:Slumber|Slumber]] 10:27, 20 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Another wave, jumped to 161 pop, and some more nobles, a Duke and his Duke Consort.  Now I have both a Duke and Duchess!--[[User:Slumber|Slumber]] 14:06, 20 November 2007 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>40d:Block</title>
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		<updated>2007-11-20T16:03:47Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Slumber: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;A '''Block''' is a material shaped into a block. [[Stone]] and [[wood]] can be shaped into blocks at the [[Mason's workshop]] or [[Carpenter's workshop]].  Glass blocks can be made at the [[Glass Furnace]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Blocks are required to make [[road]]s, [[well]]s, and [[pump]]s. They can also be used in place of raw stone or wood in other major constructions (but not in items like crafts or furniture), but the difference is purely in the value{{verify}} and style of the construction. A pillar made out of normal stones is called a rough pillar.&lt;br /&gt;
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Blocks, unlike raw stone or wood, can stack in [[bin]]s in bar/block [[stockpile]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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A block has a [[Item value|value]] of 5 times the multiplier for the material it is made out of. A block made out of pine wood (multiplier of 1☼) has a value of 5☼. A block made out of obsidian (multiplier of 3☼) has a value of 15☼.  This doesn't apply to blocks made out of metals. {{verify}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Noble&amp;diff=10065</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Noble</title>
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		<updated>2007-11-20T15:27:40Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Slumber: /* Not 100? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Added the dungeon keeper noble. He just showed up at my fort in year 1053. --[[Idles]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm &amp;quot;fixing&amp;quot; the change, &amp;quot;16:59, 31 October 2007 Lightning4 (Talk | contribs) (1,934 bytes) (→Appointments - Isn't called bookkeeper, at least when the fortress is new.)&amp;quot;, because in my forts it IS called bookkeeper when the fortress starts.  Other edits have backed me up, suspect editor was confused--Please discuss this here? --[[User:Sowelu|Sowelu]] 15:09, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I apologize, I was indeed incorrect. You do start with a Bookkeeper, which in very short order can be upgraded to a Treasurer. Unsure of requirements, possibly only requires 20 dwarves like the sheriff. My fortress has one and I haven't even done anything besides changed who had bookkeeping and set it to higher priority (did not build study yet). That's probably what got me confused since the bookkeeper upgrades very quickly. [[User:Lightning4|Lightning4]] 18:11, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yeah, 20 dwarves sounds accurate enough to put in there.  He didn't turn when I had only 17. --[[User:Sowelu|Sowelu]] 18:14, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Your original expedition leader will be the fourth dwarf down in the starting screen(the one in the middle).&amp;quot; This does not seem to hold true; I have a newly-developed habit of making the last dwarf on the screen (used to be my designated hauler-peasant) into the administrator, with all the social skills for filling the four starter noble roles. He gets auto-assigned to all four administrative positions; I'm thinking that instead of being fixed or random, the starting assignment is based on social skills. --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 00:29, 1 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I had a Philosopher show up last night. I'm unsure of the requirement to get him; the only really notable thing that had happened was I got over 100 dwarves. I'm adding him to the list of Nobles, though, since I can confirm he still exists in the new version. I also divided the page structure between Appointed and Immigrant nobles, since the current header was misleading (Dungeon Master and Philosopher cannot be appointed). --[[User:Zurai|Zurai]] 20:55, 10 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I had the king show up tonight.  &amp;quot;The King arrives, dressed as a peasant.&amp;quot;  I have no idea what the requirements were.  I missed the 1051 and 1052 dwarf caravans due to prolonged sieges, and had no immigrants those years.  1053 I had the caravan; a season later a wave of immigration brought my total dwarves up to 37.  In the spring the king arrived, along with enough others to bring the population to 63.  At that time I was notified that the Captain of the Guard position was available.  Only thing I can think is that I hit adamantine during the siege years, and mistakenly built a number of ridiculously valuable adamantine objects. (Door, Coffin, etc.)  This has raised my fortress value to 1.3 million.  Is 1 million value perhaps the trigger?  I have no coins, and no nobles other than the starting 4 positions.  I did not appoint a sheriff. [[User:Doctorlucky|Doctorlucky]] 04:15, 15 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:In the last version, hitting adamantine without proper requirement for the king triggered the reaction of having the king arrive dressed as a paysant. Maybe it's the same here. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 04:20, 15 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
== What determines expedition leader? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are a number of situations to test out:&lt;br /&gt;
* No social skills on any dwarves&lt;br /&gt;
** ''Probably random, possibly based on the Dwarf's thoughts and preferences''&lt;br /&gt;
* Majority of social skills on one dwarf (various positions in start order)&lt;br /&gt;
** ''Test case 1: only one dwarf has social skills - gives that dwarf as leader and all positions''&lt;br /&gt;
* Social skills spread between multiple dwarves&lt;br /&gt;
** Is there any weight on which skill determines the leader?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Shagie|Shagie]] 01:25, 1 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Is the first point certain?  In my current fortress, I didn't assign any social skills to any dwarf, and I'm pretty certain that the dwarf that ended up expedition leader was the seventh in the list. --[[User:Peristarkawan|Peristarkawan]] 02:28, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::In my current fort I assigned no social skills and the first dwarf in the list, one of my miners, is the expedition leader. --[[User:Moller|Moller]] 02:40, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Might be randomised then, I started three new fortresses for the test and each time it was the same so I made an assumption. Obviously this isn't the case can you two check what thoughts/prefs you have for those so we can look for some leadership criteria. --[[User:Shades|Shades]] 08:10, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::It's almost always been the first dwarf for me (assuming no one had leadership skills), but I could have sworn one time it assigned someone else. Maybe it defaults to the first dwarf on the list but can sometimes choose someone else under certain conditions. [[User:Rpb|Rpb]] 22:29, 10 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Perhaps the first dwarf didn't get it because of negative preferences? Some dwarves have a line in their thoughts/prefs that reads something like &amp;quot;X prefers to let others take leadership roles&amp;quot;. [[User:Tocky|Tocky]] 11:04, 11 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Room requirements==&lt;br /&gt;
Maybe something about the nobles requiring better rooms and how to build them? --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 15:15, 4 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Found it in [[room]]s, adding a link. --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 15:34, 4 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Not 100? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I just received migrants.  My population went from 76 to 100, and my settlement went from a village to a town.  No nobles arrived with the migrants. [[User:Geekwad|Geekwad]] 17:14, 18 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Still a town at 108&lt;br /&gt;
:Another wave, and we're a city at 111 (migrants still incoming)&lt;br /&gt;
::My population went from 101 to 126 in one wave.  A Baroness arrived at the same time and turned my settlement into a Barony.  Shortly afterwards, my settlement turned into a County (125+ dwarves?).  Then Baroness upgraded into a Countess.  Baron consort upgraded to a Count Consort.--[[User:Slumber|Slumber]] 16:49, 19 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Next immigration wave, my pop hit 138.  Nothing happens.  Then next immigration wave, my pop hits 141, the Countess upgrades to Duchess and the Count Consort upgrades to Duke Consort.  Also, &amp;quot;Incoming King&amp;quot; is the top line on the Nobles screen.  When you select it, it shows you what you need to achieve in terms of 1. architecture value (15000) 2. road value (5000) and 3. offerings value. (5000).  I'm not sure what criteria triggers the King as it happened at the same time as my Duchess.  I did just hit 200k exported wealth.  Conincedence? --[[User:Slumber|Slumber]] 10:27, 20 November 2007 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Slumber</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d:Noble&amp;diff=3452</id>
		<title>40d:Noble</title>
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		<updated>2007-11-20T15:22:15Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;Nobles are dwarves that have special duties in addition to or instead of the duties of normal dwarves.  Some nobles also have various privileges that normal dwarves do not, and will demand certain accommodations, like a [[Room#Room_grades|better office]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Settings specific to each noble can be set on the [[Nobles_Screen|Nobles &amp;amp; Administrators Screen]], accessible via the {{key|n}} key.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Appointments ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
These are nobles you can appoint through the Nobles &amp;amp; Administrators Screen.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Expedition leader]]: Listens to the complaints of other dwarves to make them happier.  Uses [[social skills]]. Is the noble who meets with outpost liaisons. It does not seem possible to reassign this post &amp;amp;ndash; at least while the original holder of the title remains alive. Your initial expedition leader is chosen based on managerial skills. You will find that your broker is often 'volunteered' for this job by the other dwarves.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Note that if there is no obvious candidate for Expedition Leader, it is chosen randomly. Additionally, if your Expedition Leader is slain and you do not choose a new one, a random dwarf will be volunteered for the job after about half a season.&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Mayor]]: Promoted from expedition leader at 50 dwarves. Unlike the expedition leader, he requires decent housing and will make [[mandate]]s. Is replaced every couple of years.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Outpost broker]]: Utilizes the [[appraiser]] skill and [[social skills]].  Is usually the person you send to the depot to do your trading.  Lets you see the imported/exported wealth of your fortress.&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[Hamlet broker]] after 20 dwarfs.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[Village broker]] after 50 dwarfs.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[Town broker]] after 80 dwarfs.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[City broker]] after 110 dwarfs.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Outpost manager]]: Utilizes the [[organizer]] skill.  Allows the use of item build queues through the {{K|j}}obs -&amp;gt; {{K|m}}anager screen. Will need an office to do this (validating work orders) once your fortress has twenty dwarves.&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[Hamlet manager]] after 20 dwarfs.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[Village manager]] after 50 dwarfs.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[Town manager]] after 80 dwarfs.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[City manager]] after 110 dwarfs.{{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bookkeeper]]: Utilizes the [[record keeper]] skill.  Lets you see the stocks of your fortress. Needs to do occasional jobs in an office of their own if you want precise stock keeping: otherwise, stock numbers will only be precise to one significant figure (e.g., 7163 -&amp;gt; 7000, 7823 -&amp;gt; 8000).&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[treasurer]] at 100,000 fortress wealth.&lt;br /&gt;
** Further upgrades to [[grand treasurer]] at 200,000 fortress wealth.&lt;br /&gt;
** Further upgrades to [[hoardmaster]] at 300,000 fortress wealth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sheriff]]: You may choose a dwarf to become the Sheriff after your fortress reaches a population of 20.&lt;br /&gt;
** [[Captain of the guard]]: Promoted from the sheriff once you reach 50 dwarves, along with the [[mayor]]. Activates [[fortress guard]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is substantial overlap between the expedition leader and the outpost broker's skills, so you may wish to assign them as the same person if you have time for one dwarf to both meet with traders and meet with the outpost liaison.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Immigrant Nobles ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
These nobles appear in immigration waves and cannot be appointed by the player.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dungeon master]]: Trains and cares for animals and performs miscellaneous metalsmithing tasks.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Philosopher]]: Has no labor options turned on, but has no requirements and makes no mandates.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Baron|Baron(ess)]]: Activates dwarven economy. {{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[Count|Count(ess)]] at 125. {{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrade to [[Duke/Duchess]] at 140. {{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Baron Consort|Baron(ess) Consort]]: Arrives with the [[Baron|Baron(ess)]].&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrades to [[Count(ess) Consort]] at 125. {{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Upgrade to [[Duke Consort]] at 140. {{verify}}&lt;br /&gt;
* [[King]]: Little is known about the king at this point.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Hammerer]]: He will enforce the law with his mighty hammer.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tax collector]] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Nobles]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Slumber</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Noble&amp;diff=10064</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Noble</title>
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		<updated>2007-11-19T21:51:04Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;Added the dungeon keeper noble. He just showed up at my fort in year 1053. --[[Idles]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm &amp;quot;fixing&amp;quot; the change, &amp;quot;16:59, 31 October 2007 Lightning4 (Talk | contribs) (1,934 bytes) (→Appointments - Isn't called bookkeeper, at least when the fortress is new.)&amp;quot;, because in my forts it IS called bookkeeper when the fortress starts.  Other edits have backed me up, suspect editor was confused--Please discuss this here? --[[User:Sowelu|Sowelu]] 15:09, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I apologize, I was indeed incorrect. You do start with a Bookkeeper, which in very short order can be upgraded to a Treasurer. Unsure of requirements, possibly only requires 20 dwarves like the sheriff. My fortress has one and I haven't even done anything besides changed who had bookkeeping and set it to higher priority (did not build study yet). That's probably what got me confused since the bookkeeper upgrades very quickly. [[User:Lightning4|Lightning4]] 18:11, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yeah, 20 dwarves sounds accurate enough to put in there.  He didn't turn when I had only 17. --[[User:Sowelu|Sowelu]] 18:14, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Your original expedition leader will be the fourth dwarf down in the starting screen(the one in the middle).&amp;quot; This does not seem to hold true; I have a newly-developed habit of making the last dwarf on the screen (used to be my designated hauler-peasant) into the administrator, with all the social skills for filling the four starter noble roles. He gets auto-assigned to all four administrative positions; I'm thinking that instead of being fixed or random, the starting assignment is based on social skills. --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 00:29, 1 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I had a Philosopher show up last night. I'm unsure of the requirement to get him; the only really notable thing that had happened was I got over 100 dwarves. I'm adding him to the list of Nobles, though, since I can confirm he still exists in the new version. I also divided the page structure between Appointed and Immigrant nobles, since the current header was misleading (Dungeon Master and Philosopher cannot be appointed). --[[User:Zurai|Zurai]] 20:55, 10 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I had the king show up tonight.  &amp;quot;The King arrives, dressed as a peasant.&amp;quot;  I have no idea what the requirements were.  I missed the 1051 and 1052 dwarf caravans due to prolonged sieges, and had no immigrants those years.  1053 I had the caravan; a season later a wave of immigration brought my total dwarves up to 37.  In the spring the king arrived, along with enough others to bring the population to 63.  At that time I was notified that the Captain of the Guard position was available.  Only thing I can think is that I hit adamantine during the siege years, and mistakenly built a number of ridiculously valuable adamantine objects. (Door, Coffin, etc.)  This has raised my fortress value to 1.3 million.  Is 1 million value perhaps the trigger?  I have no coins, and no nobles other than the starting 4 positions.  I did not appoint a sheriff. [[User:Doctorlucky|Doctorlucky]] 04:15, 15 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:In the last version, hitting adamantine without proper requirement for the king triggered the reaction of having the king arrive dressed as a paysant. Maybe it's the same here. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 04:20, 15 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
== What determines expedition leader? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are a number of situations to test out:&lt;br /&gt;
* No social skills on any dwarves&lt;br /&gt;
** ''Probably random, possibly based on the Dwarf's thoughts and preferences''&lt;br /&gt;
* Majority of social skills on one dwarf (various positions in start order)&lt;br /&gt;
** ''Test case 1: only one dwarf has social skills - gives that dwarf as leader and all positions''&lt;br /&gt;
* Social skills spread between multiple dwarves&lt;br /&gt;
** Is there any weight on which skill determines the leader?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Shagie|Shagie]] 01:25, 1 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Is the first point certain?  In my current fortress, I didn't assign any social skills to any dwarf, and I'm pretty certain that the dwarf that ended up expedition leader was the seventh in the list. --[[User:Peristarkawan|Peristarkawan]] 02:28, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::In my current fort I assigned no social skills and the first dwarf in the list, one of my miners, is the expedition leader. --[[User:Moller|Moller]] 02:40, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Might be randomised then, I started three new fortresses for the test and each time it was the same so I made an assumption. Obviously this isn't the case can you two check what thoughts/prefs you have for those so we can look for some leadership criteria. --[[User:Shades|Shades]] 08:10, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::It's almost always been the first dwarf for me (assuming no one had leadership skills), but I could have sworn one time it assigned someone else. Maybe it defaults to the first dwarf on the list but can sometimes choose someone else under certain conditions. [[User:Rpb|Rpb]] 22:29, 10 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Perhaps the first dwarf didn't get it because of negative preferences? Some dwarves have a line in their thoughts/prefs that reads something like &amp;quot;X prefers to let others take leadership roles&amp;quot;. [[User:Tocky|Tocky]] 11:04, 11 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Room requirements==&lt;br /&gt;
Maybe something about the nobles requiring better rooms and how to build them? --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 15:15, 4 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Found it in [[room]]s, adding a link. --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 15:34, 4 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Not 100? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I just received migrants.  My population went from 76 to 100, and my settlement went from a village to a town.  No nobles arrived with the migrants. [[User:Geekwad|Geekwad]] 17:14, 18 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Still a town at 108&lt;br /&gt;
:Another wave, and we're a city at 111 (migrants still incoming)&lt;br /&gt;
::My population went from 101 to 126 in one wave.  A Baroness arrived at the same time and turned my settlement into a Barony.  Shortly afterwards, my settlement turned into a County (125+ dwarves?).  Then Baroness upgraded into a Countess.  Baron consort upgraded to a Count Consort.--[[User:Slumber|Slumber]] 16:49, 19 November 2007 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Slumber</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Noble&amp;diff=10063</id>
		<title>40d Talk:Noble</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Noble&amp;diff=10063"/>
		<updated>2007-11-19T21:49:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Slumber: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Added the dungeon keeper noble. He just showed up at my fort in year 1053. --[[Idles]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I'm &amp;quot;fixing&amp;quot; the change, &amp;quot;16:59, 31 October 2007 Lightning4 (Talk | contribs) (1,934 bytes) (→Appointments - Isn't called bookkeeper, at least when the fortress is new.)&amp;quot;, because in my forts it IS called bookkeeper when the fortress starts.  Other edits have backed me up, suspect editor was confused--Please discuss this here? --[[User:Sowelu|Sowelu]] 15:09, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I apologize, I was indeed incorrect. You do start with a Bookkeeper, which in very short order can be upgraded to a Treasurer. Unsure of requirements, possibly only requires 20 dwarves like the sheriff. My fortress has one and I haven't even done anything besides changed who had bookkeeping and set it to higher priority (did not build study yet). That's probably what got me confused since the bookkeeper upgrades very quickly. [[User:Lightning4|Lightning4]] 18:11, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, 20 dwarves sounds accurate enough to put in there.  He didn't turn when I had only 17. --[[User:Sowelu|Sowelu]] 18:14, 31 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Your original expedition leader will be the fourth dwarf down in the starting screen(the one in the middle).&amp;quot; This does not seem to hold true; I have a newly-developed habit of making the last dwarf on the screen (used to be my designated hauler-peasant) into the administrator, with all the social skills for filling the four starter noble roles. He gets auto-assigned to all four administrative positions; I'm thinking that instead of being fixed or random, the starting assignment is based on social skills. --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 00:29, 1 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I had a Philosopher show up last night. I'm unsure of the requirement to get him; the only really notable thing that had happened was I got over 100 dwarves. I'm adding him to the list of Nobles, though, since I can confirm he still exists in the new version. I also divided the page structure between Appointed and Immigrant nobles, since the current header was misleading (Dungeon Master and Philosopher cannot be appointed). --[[User:Zurai|Zurai]] 20:55, 10 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I had the king show up tonight.  &amp;quot;The King arrives, dressed as a peasant.&amp;quot;  I have no idea what the requirements were.  I missed the 1051 and 1052 dwarf caravans due to prolonged sieges, and had no immigrants those years.  1053 I had the caravan; a season later a wave of immigration brought my total dwarves up to 37.  In the spring the king arrived, along with enough others to bring the population to 63.  At that time I was notified that the Captain of the Guard position was available.  Only thing I can think is that I hit adamantine during the siege years, and mistakenly built a number of ridiculously valuable adamantine objects. (Door, Coffin, etc.)  This has raised my fortress value to 1.3 million.  Is 1 million value perhaps the trigger?  I have no coins, and no nobles other than the starting 4 positions.  I did not appoint a sheriff. [[User:Doctorlucky|Doctorlucky]] 04:15, 15 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:In the last version, hitting adamantine without proper requirement for the king triggered the reaction of having the king arrive dressed as a paysant. Maybe it's the same here. --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 04:20, 15 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
== What determines expedition leader? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are a number of situations to test out:&lt;br /&gt;
* No social skills on any dwarves&lt;br /&gt;
** ''Probably random, possibly based on the Dwarf's thoughts and preferences''&lt;br /&gt;
* Majority of social skills on one dwarf (various positions in start order)&lt;br /&gt;
** ''Test case 1: only one dwarf has social skills - gives that dwarf as leader and all positions''&lt;br /&gt;
* Social skills spread between multiple dwarves&lt;br /&gt;
** Is there any weight on which skill determines the leader?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Shagie|Shagie]] 01:25, 1 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Is the first point certain?  In my current fortress, I didn't assign any social skills to any dwarf, and I'm pretty certain that the dwarf that ended up expedition leader was the seventh in the list. --[[User:Peristarkawan|Peristarkawan]] 02:28, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::In my current fort I assigned no social skills and the first dwarf in the list, one of my miners, is the expedition leader. --[[User:Moller|Moller]] 02:40, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Might be randomised then, I started three new fortresses for the test and each time it was the same so I made an assumption. Obviously this isn't the case can you two check what thoughts/prefs you have for those so we can look for some leadership criteria. --[[User:Shades|Shades]] 08:10, 2 November 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::It's almost always been the first dwarf for me (assuming no one had leadership skills), but I could have sworn one time it assigned someone else. Maybe it defaults to the first dwarf on the list but can sometimes choose someone else under certain conditions. [[User:Rpb|Rpb]] 22:29, 10 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Perhaps the first dwarf didn't get it because of negative preferences? Some dwarves have a line in their thoughts/prefs that reads something like &amp;quot;X prefers to let others take leadership roles&amp;quot;. [[User:Tocky|Tocky]] 11:04, 11 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Room requirements==&lt;br /&gt;
Maybe something about the nobles requiring better rooms and how to build them? --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 15:15, 4 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Found it in [[room]]s, adding a link. --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 15:34, 4 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Not 100? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I just received migrants.  My population went from 76 to 100, and my settlement went from a village to a town.  No nobles arrived with the migrants. [[User:Geekwad|Geekwad]] 17:14, 18 November 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Still a town at 108&lt;br /&gt;
:Another wave, and we're a city at 111 (migrants still incoming)&lt;br /&gt;
::My population went from 101 to 126 in one wave.  A Baroness arrived at the same time and turned my settlement into a Barony.  Shortly afterwards, my settlement turned into a County (125+ dwarves?).  baroness upgrades into a Countess.  Baron consort upgrades to a Count Consort.--[[User:Slumber|Slumber]] 16:49, 19 November 2007 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Slumber</name></author>
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