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40d Talk:Challenges

2007-12-30T00:30:33Z

TheUbie: My 2 cents

Now that you construct walls and fortifications out of wood, I wonder if anyone is going to take on a 'no mining' challenge? You're going to need a ''lot'' of wood! --[[User:Mechturk|Mechturk]] 17:00, 6 November 2007 (EST)

:Some people already are :p --[[User:Turgid Bolk|Turgid Bolk]] 17:44, 6 November 2007 (EST)

I tried "Assassination" the other day and found that it was incredibly easy with a group of axedwarves. Not only did I kill the hardest-to-get-at goblin, I killed every last other goblin too. In the end, there were only 2 dogs and 2 dwarves dead (the last one fell, sadly, to the last goblin left, who was hiding in the tunnels.--[[User:Smoking Gnu|Smoking Gnu]] 22:51, 15 December 2007 (EST)

:Now do it with 7 untrained dwarves with no armor. --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 19:30, 29 December 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Weapon

2007-11-29T23:54:16Z

TheUbie: /* Conflicting Info? */

Are the bows and blowguns melee or ranged? -- [[User:Bovinepro|Bovinepro]]
:Both. When they run out of ammo the dwarves will beat their enemies to death with their bows. The listed damage is for when that happens. --[[User:Ikkonoishi|Ikkonoishi]] 17:15, 4 November 2007 (EST)

What about damage done by artifact weapons? Is it x2 like masterwork items?
:The exact damage bonus granted by artifact weapons is unknown, though it's quite likely much higher than a masterwork, if the value is any indicator. It's difficult to determine the exact bonus, as it's not in the raws, Toady hasn't told us, and it's very difficult to gauge exactly how much damage a weapon is dealing due to how little is known about the combat calculations in general. --[[User:Hesitris|Hesitris]] 07:31, 18 November 2007 (EST)

== Conflicting Info? ==

Earlier on, we say that dwarves can't wield bows because they are too big. Down in the tables, the bow is listed as two handed and not unwieldable. Need to correct one or the other (I'm too lazy to verify that in the current version bows are still unwieldable.) --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 06:20, 28 November 2007 (EST)
:Well, a bow is two handed and unwieldable to dwarves, do you mean in adventure mode with humans/elves? I think most of this data is fortress mode specific. --Gotthard 18:15, 28 November 2007 (EST)
::I didn't write the article, so I don't know it's original intention, however there are other weapons that can be wielded 2 handed by humans and others in adventure mode, but are listed as unweildable by dwarves. Need to choose to make the table fortress specific, adventure mode specific, or add another col and make it specific to both. As it stands now, it doesn't make sense. --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 18:54, 29 November 2007 (EST)

==Pike==

I been able to wield a bronze pike with an adventurer in 23a and it was quite deadly. This need to be verified. Maybe there is a strength requirement? --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 14:43, 28 November 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Weapon

2007-11-28T11:20:24Z

TheUbie: Conflicting Info?

40d Talk:Magma-safe

2007-11-22T09:50:49Z

TheUbie:

How much of this has been verified? [[User:Schm0|Schm0]] 06:16, 20 November 2007 (EST)
:I think it's all based on inference from raw files. I have been meaning to test bauxite or get someone else to do it, but haven't run into any or been very convincing [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 10:22, 20 November 2007 (EST)

::I haven't run into any Bauxite either, and I was on hunt for it. After starting fortresses on 20+ map squares with Sediment layers, revealing it then exporting images of the layers to analyze...I haven't seen a single Bauxite deposit. Makes me wonder if it's a bug, or if I'm that unlucky. My theory is that Bauxite mechanisms won't melt under magma. --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 12:53, 20 November 2007 (EST)

:::I had the same idea :) [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 16:40, 20 November 2007 (EST)

::::Man I hope it's true. Bump that number up to 35 regions with Sediment layers and no Bauxite. Beginning to think it's a bug. --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 04:29, 21 November 2007 (EST)

:::::Isn't the easiest way to test this either to make some critter drop bauxite, or mod a stone you have to being the same temperature rating and see if that survives. --[[User:Shades|Shades]] 06:51, 21 November 2007 (EST)

::::::Is it possible to order bauxite mechanisms from the caravan? --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 11:44, 21 November 2007 (EST)

::::::: Actually, the easiest way was for me to edit the raw and put bauxite in every layer in the game. Fired up the game, created a new world, found a magma vent and bam I was in business. The verdict? It's magma-safe. Both Bauxite floodgates and bauxite mechanisms resist the magma, and the bauxite rocks that I left on the floor were unharmed by the magma flow. Bauxite: confirmed. With the iron and steel confirmation, I would believe that anything given the melting point stat above magma's temperature is magma safe. Now, if we can just get Toady to make magma replenish, we could make some amazing magma traps with machines made of iron/steel and bauxite! --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 15:01, 21 November 2007 (EST)

Iron is definitly magma safe. I've repeatedly flooded goblins with magma, and only their iron equipment remained. Iron floodgates are not destroyed from magma either ( although their mechanisms are. ) Iron screw pumps can pump magma with no problem. IRON IS A OK.--[[User:GauHelldragon|GauHelldragon]] 05:21, 21 November 2007 (EST)
:But you can't make mechanisms out of it, which is what we're trying to do. --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMario]] 16:14, 21 November 2007 (EST)

::There's still the question of whether you can make a magma forge/furnace using a platinum bar (I doubt it).--[[User:Maximus|Maximus]] 19:11, 21 November 2007 (EST)

Raw adamantine is magma-safe. I know we all ''knew'' that, but I've tested it. In particular, I built mechanisms out of raw adamantine and tested them on a raw adamantine floodgate. All the loose stone has since melted, but the gate continues to open and close just fine. And while raw adamantine is rare and valuable, at least it's less rare than bauxite.... [[User:Doctorlucky|Doctorlucky]] 21:00, 21 November 2007 (EST)

:Kinda sad when you feel more accomplishment from finding Bauxite than finding Adamantine. --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 04:50, 22 November 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Magma-safe

2007-11-21T20:01:54Z

TheUbie:

40d Talk:Magma-safe

2007-11-21T09:29:27Z

TheUbie:

40d Talk:Magma-safe

2007-11-20T17:53:59Z

TheUbie:

User:TheUbie

2007-11-19T20:14:26Z

TheUbie: Adding some real info.

Interesting things I've found while playing Dwarf Fortress and/or playing WITH dwarf fortress...

== Wasted space or Room for expansion? ==

While poking around with the memory values in the expedition setup screen, I found that either Toady has something sinister planned with the values of dwarf skills, or he's being very inefficient with his memory space.

From what I can tell, he has the total skill increases you can add to a dwarf as a 1 byte Int, which is good, as it's capped naturally in the program at 10. He has the total starting points for the fortress as a 2 byte integer, which is also good as it's normal starting value is at 1000, and you can move up a little if you dump all your starting supplies.

However...when I found the values for the skills themselves, I noticed they are 4 byte integers. From what most of us who have played with the values have figured out, each skills is ranked 0 (dabbling) to 20+ (Legendary...and it can continue to grow.) Now, a 1 byte int maxes at 255. Anyone who has played a fortress for an extended period of time will know that given skill increases...if you have a legendary miner or engraver working full time, you will get 7-10 skill increases a year. So, a full on hard working dwarf will max out a 1 byte value in around 10 years. Definitely not unheard of in this game. Move up to the 65k or so value of a 2 byte int, and we square that value...100 years.

At this point, I doubt any additional skill gain would matter at all, so..why should each dwarf skill (71 know, as well as 8 or so variables that appeared to be a skill, but did not show up in the starting skills...) take up 2x what is needed in the game? Throw on top of that the fact that most creatures also have skills, which I'm speculating have the same value scheme, and we've got a lot of wasted memory going, as well as increased calculation time on a macro scale.

Why is it done this way? Over sight? Perhaps some sort of future expansion in mind?

Who knows.

== Best use of caged enemies ==

I'll post a movie of this when I get back off dial up and on high speed again...

Build yourself an arena, tame or trade for a few good vicious wild animals (Lions are my personal favorite), build both a cage with the animal and the enemy in the arena, link them to a lever, close the door/gate and pull...hilarity ensues. Be sure to make the area behind that gate also contain cage traps, so you can just open it up and let the bad guy wander back into captivity should he survive.

--[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 15:14, 19 November 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Immigration

2007-11-19T09:49:17Z

TheUbie:

Don't know how much of this info is still valid. For example, the line "Notably, the incredibly useful Manager requires at least twenty dwarves." is a hold-over from the previous wiki. In fact, most of the noble-related info is outdated.
I'm going to edit out anything that I ''know'' to be wrong. Get rid of the wrong stuff, and we can start getting correct stuff in instead.[[User:Thexor|Thexor]] 19:07, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

:The validation abilities of the manager still only appear after you have 20 dwarfs. But you can access the screen before that happens. Don't know if this validation has any additional effect or if the managers even work before that.--[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (EST)

I have a nagging sense from playing a year or two in a few different areas that the number of migrants is a bit more random now. I have one decently wealthy young outpost located far from it's civilization on the map which has gotten very few immigrants in the first two years. Perhaps with groups now moving on the overall map, it is more important to be close to your civilization's area so immigrant groups arrive more quickly and are less likely to get ambushed on the way? Pure conjecture on my part and not backed by any real evidence, but an interesting idea nonetheless. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 16:15, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

Well, my first throw-away fortress got gigantic immigration crowds every single season. Then I abandoned, rerolled the world, and started a new fortress. It produces worlds more wealth than my first fortress, but I have only gotten one immigration wave on the second Spring, bringing my numbers to 24. I then received my second immigration on the start of the third Spring, bringing me up to 48 dwarves. I was very worried up until I got that first wave in the spring... I almost thought I was going to have to scrap the fortress and start again. For reference, I receive elf, human, and dwarf traders. No sieges yet. I have no deaths so far. It would seem that the MAXIMUM immigration amount is 24 for one season. [[User:FFLaguna|FFLaguna]] 23:33, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

::Update: On the summer of my third year, I finally received some migrants! Woooo. I received about 12 immigrants. [[User:FFLaguna|FFLaguna]] 01:35, 4 November 2007 (EDT)

::Happend to me sometimes to, you have to wait for immigrants sometimes. --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (EST)

== Equipment ==

(This should probably go on the Migrant talk page, but this page seems to be busier)

Will an immigrant always arrive with the necessary equipment to perform his skills? ie, will a hunter always arrive with a crossbow, armour and bolts? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 16:08, 8 November 2007 (EST)

:nope, sometimes you get an immigrant who doesn't have the right equipment. (Had woodworkers with carpentry and wood cutting skills withouth an axe). --[[User:Soyweiser|Soyweiser]] 07:46, 9 November 2007 (EST)

== Combat Immigrants ==

I have yet to have any of my immigrants to show up as military types, even though I've at least produced crossbows in every fort I've run so far. Had one fort reach it's 6th year and have crafted every type of weapon available without a single dwarf showing up with combat skills. Anyone {{verify}} that this is still true? --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 04:49, 19 November 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Floodgate

2007-11-19T09:28:40Z

TheUbie: Adding my two cents on stone floodgates

... but only '''stone''' and metal will hold back magma.

Is this true? In the last version only steel was strong enough to contain magma. --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 15:29, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

: Well, my dolomite floodgates were enough to hold magma. So stone floodgates are capable of holding magma. Dunnoe about wooden ones though. [[User:Noctis|Noctis]] 15:59, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

:Not true. I used stone floodgates all the time with magma in the last version. --[[User:RedKing|RedKing]] 00:52, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

::Perhaps the confusion comes from the fact that you needed steel to bridge over magma --[[User:Moller|Moller]] 02:11, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

:::Alright, the dolomite floodgates that I've mentioned earlier seem to have disappeared, presumably melted away. Thus I'm led to belive that only steel(or better) floodgates are capable of holding magma now. [[User:Noctis|Noctis]] 09:29, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

::::From what I've seen stone floodgates are, at the moment, one use like the steel ones listed in the article...but for different reasons. A closed stone floodgate will hold back magma indefinitely (probably for the same reason that the normal stone walls hold magma as they do), but once you link and open it the magma enters the same tile and turns any stone into it's molten counterpart. This means both your stone floodgate and stone mechanism are turned to slag and eventually lost to the magma forever. I would bet that the steel floodgates are still there, but forever locked in their open state since your mechanism just got turned to goo and you can no longer select the flood gate from the lever's link menu{{verify}}. Perhaps [[Bauxite|Bauxite]] might be able to survive the magma {{verify}}, but I need to find some first in order to test that theory.{{version|0.27.169.33b}} --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 04:28, 19 November 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Carp

2007-11-18T06:57:32Z

TheUbie: Adding confirmation to location

[[Unicorn|There is another contender for the position of King of the Animals, and this one is land-based.]] --[[User:BDR|BDR]] 14:42, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

Hmm, what about the other fish? sea lampreys? pike? etc? what about them? Do they just get shunted, and their named champions brushed aside?

:I was going to propose the eagles that seem untargetable as they fly in, grab a dwarf, then drop him from a dizzying height whereupon he spats into chunks on the ground.--[[User:Draco18s|Draco18s]] 03:45, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

::Well, until Toady lets carp and elephants fight each other to settle this once and for all, perhaps carp should be King of the Sea and elephants King of the Land. Eagles can have King of the Air.--[[User:Xazak|Xazak]] 19:53, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

:::Hmm, wonder if you can have those eagles tamed. Dwarven air force anyone? --[[User:Frostedfire|frostedfire]] 10:02, 9 November 2007 (AEDT)

It might be worth noting somewhere that you only seem to get "dangerous" fish if you have an actual river (or coastline?). If you only have a brook and murky pools, you get our old friends turtles and salmon who never attack or scare anyone. From what I can tell, salmon, turtles, and char seem to be classified as vermin, not creatures, so they don't freak out the dwarfs. The aquifer seems safe too, though that may depend on what other water sources are nearby.

Can anyone confirm or refute? -- [[User:Angela Christine|Angela Christine]] 19:32, 9 November 2007 (EST)

::From what I've seen, this is correct. While starting and abandoning several fortresses trying to get the handle of making machines and other devious devices, 5 out of 5 fortresses started next to brooks generated no dangerous fish, while 3 of the 4 started next to major rivers and 2 out of 2 started on the coast had my poor dwarves molested by those vile things. --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 01:57, 18 November 2007 (EST)

User:TheUbie

2007-11-18T06:56:56Z

TheUbie: New page: More here as soon as I think of something fun to say. --TheUbie ~~~~~

More here as soon as I think of something fun to say.

--[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 01:56, 18 November 2007 (EST)