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40d:Bars

2008-03-04T23:09:11Z

Vanan:

'''''For metal bars see [[Metal]].'''''

Bars are essentially poles that block the movement of all but liquids and light. Meaning that while you can see through bars and let water or magma flow through them, no item or creature can pass. Bars can be both vertical and horizontal, that is they can be used instead of walls or floors.

== Usage ==

Bars can be built from the Site a [[Building]] menu ( {{k|b}} ). The hotkey for vertical bars is {{k|B}} and for floor bars it's {{k|Alt}} + {{k|b}}. Floor bars can only built where there is no floor. To remove the floor of a tile, you dig a [[channel]]. Bars can only be built from metal (strangely ashes and coal count as metal as well) and take only one bar to be build. Currently Bars are identical in function to grates but distinctions will be made later[http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=7&t=001394] {{version|0.27.169.33g}}

==See also==
*[[Grate]]

[[Category:Furniture]]

40d:Pregenerated worlds

2007-11-26T06:12:53Z

Vanan:

In order to rapidly find working worlds and save on generating time, some users pregenerate and share worlds to others. With the new seed technology, it is possible to share an entire world in as little as a dozen digits. Share neat worlds, unique worlds using Seeds to save upload time, or share worlds using the save file to save on world creation time for others.

== Downloadable worlds ==

Downloadable worlds are worlds which have been generated and then compressed into a single archive file for sharing over the internet. Download the file then extract the folder inside the archive into your /data/save folder in order to use it.

=== Lathondur Minbaz ===

Direct download available here: [http://morlark.uwcs.co.uk/misc/region1.tar.gz Lathondur Minbaz]

=== The Continents of Mist ===

Direct download available here: [http://rapidshare.com/files/69121571/continents_of_mist.zip The Continents of Mist] 
Download includes a list of magma and non-magma sites, each with (non-spoily) description and location map. 
(version v0.27.169.33a, seed 757133686, provided by Fedor)

== Seeds ==

Seeded worlds are special "codes" which tell the game's pseudo-random number generator (a sophisticated mathematical function which produces numbers that seem random) where to begin generating a world. Because the random number generator is actually just a mathematical function and thus always produces the same result when given a certain input, you can "seed" the generator to produce an entire series of random numbers on another computer that are exactly the same as they were originally produced on the first computer.

To use a seeded world, select ''Create a New World'' during the main menu, then hit {{key|s}} to specify a seed. Type in the seed and hit {{key|Enter}}, then hit {{key|Enter}} one more time to begin generation. It will still take the normal amount of time to generate the world, and you will still have rejects before the world is produced.

The random seed used also determines the world's name if a random name is selected. This disrupts the sequence of psudeorandom numbers. As a consequence, a seed with a player-given name will result in a completely different world than the same seed with a random name. Seed publishers should specify whether a random or a given name was selected when generating the world.

Mineral content is determined at the time it is allocated, (essentially when you dig near it). Accordingly the map seed determines the layers and therefore the probability of certain rocks/ores, but the ore veins themselves will vary.

A further warning: there may be other things that affect world generation, such as your operating system. If you generate a world different from one described here, with the same seed and the same name, please mention it with the relevant details (operating system including any service packs, processor type, and game version) here.

=== Seed 0: 0 Rejects and plenty of awesomeness ===

This world uses a random name and was generated in v0.27.169.33a.

[http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=worldmapregion210500hk1.jpg You may see this for yourself here.] Notables are a fairly large ocean in the lower-left corner, and over 7 volcanoes scattered around the map. There also seems to be a nice variety of environments for your leisure. Enjoy!

Here's a volcano in the tundra:

[[Image:Freezingvolcano.JPG|A volcano in an unusual area]]

And here's a starting location with almost literally everything: trees, flux, a magma pocket (not visible from the surface, but only a few levels from the surface below the elevated area between the trees and the sand), all the basic metals, sand and adamantine. There are many other really good sites in the squares around the same volcano, and several similarly ideal sites around volcanoes about six region tiles to the east and southeast.

The dwarven town depicted is my own abandoned fortress; you won't see it when you play.

[[Image:seed0volcano.png|The zen site - one with everything]].

=== Seed 2: A Quick One ===

This seed only rejects 3 regions, so it is one of the quickest to generate. This saves time if your computer is slow, and don't want to download the pregenerated one.

Here is a starting place for seed 2 that is relatively flat, has magma and water on the same Z level. Has flux, sand. Heavily forested and max herbs. Enjoy.

The aquifer is only in the top left corner of this map, and can easily be avoided if you don't wish to deal with one.

'''Neighbors:''' [[Dwarves]], [[Elves]], [[Goblins]], [[Humans]]

'''Features:''' [[Magma vent]], [[Aquifer]]

'''Dominant Stone Types:''' [[Granite]], [[Rhyolite]], [[Andesite]]

'''Sand Types:''' [[Loamy sand|Loamy]], [[Black sand|Black]]

'''Climate:''' [[Temperate]]

'''Biomes:''' [[Temperate Freshwater Swamp]]

'''Generation Features:''' Only 3 rejections

[[Image:Dwarfort_2007-11-03_02-06-26-53.jpg]]

* A couple more nice starting spots right next door have similar features, though with mountains, being slightly further apart and with a higher challenge (being in the "Terrifying" area). Both have sand (in the tree-lined areas) and flux.

[[Image:Df_seeda.png]]

[[Image:Df_seedb.png]]

===Seed 34: One Reject Seed===
Nice and easy for those of you with slow PCs.

=== Seed 2577317804: Volcano Amidst a Thick Forest ===

VeryInky of the #bay12games [[IRC]] channel has discovered that generator seed 2577317804 guarantees a decent sized magma vent, which apparently flows downward to the core of the planet itself. And luckily, it's surrounded by a scenic forest housing deadly creatures.

[[Image:Volcano.jpg]]

The square above this scenic forest with a magma vent, contains also a mamgma vent, a large amount of mountain, but also a forgotten ruin.

=== Seed 2268220040: 3 Volcanic Islands, With at Least 10 Other Random Land Based Volcanoes ===

This world contains over 10 volcanoes, most of them in reasonable positions, some in Forests, some in in mountains, some that are right next to mountains ''and'' forests, and others in less convenient places. However, the real gems are the 3 volcanic islands. Some screens of the volcanic islands even contain both ocean tiles volcanic vent on the same local map.

Ever wanted that volcanic AND secret island lair? This is the world for you.

[[Image:Island-Volcanic-Lair-(s)-cl.gif]]

=== Seed 3089130238: Isolated feature-rich mountain ===
'''Neighbours:''' dwarves.

'''Features:''' 2 chasms (snowflake formation and dryed magma tube), magma tube, cave river and deep pits.

'''Dominant stone type:''' obsidian, gabbro and granite.

'''Common stone types:''' microcline, olivine, orthoclase.

'''Sand type:''' yellow sand near magma-tube.

'''Minerals:''' mountain is rich in copper and silver ores as well as
clusters of gemstones; it lacks, however, steel-producing minerals.

'''Climate:''' untamed wilds mountain surrounded by joyfull tropical broadleaf forests, where both highwood and featherwood grow. Unicorns were seen roaming there.

'''FPS-saving:''' Downmost row on the map-rectangle contains only snowflake-chasm. Leftmost column contains the aforementioned chasm and a part of the forest.

[[Image:3089130238.PNG]]

=== Seed 3706678589: The Domain of Dragons...? ===
'''Horrible Descriptions of Vagueness:''' Near the southern dwarven civilization, there are volcanos right near warm forests, and a little hunting can find you a minimum-size area containing a magma vent, a river, heavy forest, and sand. Which would be ideal if not for the fact that this is a Tropical Moist Broadleaf Forest we're talking about, which, if the forum is to be believed, contains some of the most [[Elephant|terrifying creatures]] ever to walk any of the worlds. --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 00:01, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

=== Seed 1149670256 ===
<blockquote>Pretty funny oddity while I was making new world map, there's two 'volcano mountains' next to each other And in the tile just south of the left most volacno there's both chams and volcano quite close to each other, just dig nice hole in between and you have one chasmfull of dead people, hehe Both of them seem pretty hostile though... To get to the location, just pick regular size zone so that you can reach the red ~ (volcano) icon and two or three rows below it and same amount to left. Then you have both

Didn't check the other volcano sites though, but the one I checked was ~21 levels deep of volcano and same for chasm... </blockquote>[http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=001246]

=== Seed 1621458352 ===
<blockquote>Most notable here: a free-standing good-aligned volcano in the woods with a magma vent, a magma lake, a chasm and a water lake all within a small area. For good measure there's a Kobold city on the other side of the mountain, as well as a cave river and chasm-pit somewhere... To top it off it also has adamantine, though it might be hard to get all the features in one fortress.

To find it, look in the top left corner for a lone volcano in a pine forest.

The same world has an evil-aligned volcano in a good-aligned shrubland... I didn't explore the features in that one, as it's so large z-wise it hurts my computer, but it has the brook and vent really close together.
(...)
The world also has at least one site where good and evil vegetated areas meet by a mountain, allowing you to have every type of shurb and every type of tree... except highwood...

It also has an absolutely huge named peak sticking out of a good-aligned forest, as well as a nice volcano sticking out of a good-aligned forest...</blockquote>[http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=001246]

=== Seed 941486140: Zero rejects ===
<blockquote>(N)ot only is it ZERO REJECTED, but its got several island volcanoes. (O)ne of them has a caldera by the coast with a cliff overhanging it, and an aquifer which (I) THINK has fresh water in it(...) (S)everal spots have magma and steep cliffs and trees and rivers. Lots of the goblin forts are in neat locations.</blockquote>[http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=001247]

=== Seed 4265985437: A little bit of everything ===

This map has just about anything you could ask for, all in a neat 4x5 area. The low cliffs and small area make for good fps. It was first mentioned on the forums by Paul. The only thing it is really lacking is sand, '''unless''' you grow your starting area eastward by 2 more spaces, in which case you'll get some spaces of red sand. Note that it was generated on windows XP, and may be different on another OS.

'''Features:'''

'''1.''' Small cave river with waterfall source falling into chasm tiles.

'''2.''' Underground magma chamber, unrevealed at first but close to surface.

'''3.''' A fair sized chasm in one corner.

'''4.''' Adamantine + pits deep below. Dwarves beware.

'''5.''' Excellent minerals, sedimentary limestone and various other base rocks are a source for abundant magnetite with large platinum veins and varied precious metals and gems.

'''6.''' Outdoor trees. Not overly abundant but enough for most purposes.

'''7.''' River running through the area that doesn't freeze (warm climate).

'''8.''' Underground soil present at the start location, providing plenty of immediate farming and storage.

The region is home to thriving goat population, along with occasional visits from hoary marmots and rhesus macaques. A lone giant eagle can usually be seen soaring overhead, ready to devour your hapless dwarves and livestock.

Note that this seed does have 51 rejects, but these are all quickly rejected so the creation time isn't too bad.

[[Image:4265985437.PNG]]

=== Seed 957776166: 11 Volcanos ===
<blockquote>What's special? Well at least 11 volcanos are dotting the lower half, 2 of which are islands. Should be something for everybody maybe, haven't checked it all out. (Except all you glacier folk.)</blockquote> [http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=001247]

Edit: Ok, checked this world out a bit more and so far:
2 volcanic islands in the lower left,
at least 2 volcanic mountains to be played directly on,
at least 2, possibly 4 aquifer volcanoes on right,
2 sets of volcanic twins along lower right mountain range, top set is rich with obsidian starting areas.

On a sad note, still nothing special spotted in the north (cold), and I believe all these areas are alignment neutral. (Although there are good and evil ranges in the world.)

Well, enjoy.
-Funkadelic Jive Turkey

=== Seed 891230954: Resource heaven ===

Fairly quick seed (12 rejects). Quite by accident I stumbled across a sweet little gem of a starting location, although you have to use a fairly large play area to get the full benefit of it. Includes a magma vent with an excellent mineral selection, including magnetite, bituminous coal, and marble (usable as a flux). Can anyone say "steel production"? The upper left-hand corner has white sand for glass production, if you're willing to play with a 5x5 or 6x6 area to stretch from the sand to the magma vent. The sand area also has an aquifer if you want one, but the rest of the map is dry so you have ample stone at your disposal, and the entire map is heavily forested. Reasonably flat map, plenty of ponds. Nothing horribly exciting here, just tons and tons of resources.

[[Image:df_891230954.PNG]]

=== Seed 1010101010: 4 Volcano Cluster ===
This map contains a cluster of 4 volcanos, unfortunately, you can only access two of them in Dwarf Fortress mode and may be in dangerous territories. There's also a few other volcanoes and possibly a few lava vents as well.

[[Image:Volcanocluster.PNG]]

=== Seed 593046736: Grand Canyon + Giant Caldera + all of Paul's & More! ===
'''''Note: The non-random name "The World of Pagan" must be used in order for this seed to generate properly!'''''

This was the very first world I generated, with my first fort being at the isolated mountain cluster on the west side, right by the goblin fortress there. However, when I started searching for a site with HIDDEN_FUN_STUFF, I stumbled on a location that has everything Paul's seed gives plus a whole lot more. In the far southwest of the world is a volcano near the dwarven civilization. This volcano is on the northeast side of the southwest mountains, and the tile with the good stuff is one region square northeast of there (non-descript on the surface). CAVEAT: to fit all the good stuff, you need a local area 9 squares wide and 10 squares tall, starting from the northeast corner. The outdoor river is the feature you lose by trimming the bottom (but you don't lose the second cave river), and if you trim from the right, you lose the giant caldera (but not the magma tube). You could probably get as small as 6x6 and still get everything but the caldera and outdoor river.

'''1.''' quick to generate -- only 4 rejects

'''2.''' a massive mountain peak, with 79 levels of vertical between the top and bottom levels!!!!

'''3.''' a giant volcano caldera to the northeast, plunging for dozens of levels

'''4.''' a crazy spidery chasm with literally dozens of side caves and all sorts of critters

'''5.''' a secret underground river with two waterfalls one that goes into a private chasm

'''6.''' a giant grand canyon to the south with a surface river that has a huge multi-level waterfall

'''7.''' an underground magma chamber that goes to the bottom

'''8.''' eerie glowing pits, complete with bizarre multi-level dungeon and torture room

'''9.''' a small selection of trees and shrubs

'''10.''' adamantine, iron, gold, platinum, copper, galore!

'''11.''' batmen, troglodytes, giant cave swallows, cave spiders, iron men, fire imps, kobolds, magma men, and more!

'''12.''' trade with all civs (human, dwarf, elf)

'''13.''' freezing cold 11 of 12 months of the year -- water only melts in early summer and freezes again by midsummer!!!

[[Image:593046736TheWorldofPagan.png]]

=== Seed 7185120: Snow-Encrusted ===

126 Rejections (and still under 15 minutes on my 1.6 GHz laptop).

This map has snow and ice, and lots of it. The world map looks almost completely frozen, only the bottom 3rd of the export map has significant quantities of non-snow area--which looks to be mostly desert and dry areas.

Haven't looked at the map in detail, might not be worth playing, but it was amusing.

=== Seed 71551: Another quickie ===

5 Rejects.

29 squares left and 11 squares up from the lower left corner is a mirthful glacier with a volcano and dolomite. Potential '''STEEL GLACIER'''!

-Ilmuri

=== Seed 3614285250: Steel, Glass, Obsidian, Platinum, and a cave river for good measure ===

Steel in the form of plentiful magnetite marble and coal, obsidian for rock crafts and swords, glass in the form of black sand, and a couple largish veins of platinum near the cliff face to the west.
The biggest downside is that it has 113 rejections, and no pit either. Otherwise it would be just about the perfect fortress in 4x5. It's even got some nice cliff faces for the traditionalist. The cave river starts at the bottom of the map and it goes straight down (off the map), but it's a source of infinite water and cave plants nonetheless.

[[image:Steelglass fortress.png]]

=== Seed 2967067655: An interesting site with a lot to offer ===

It's too bad everything isn't more compact, but it's still possible to make several interesting fortresses out of one location. The local area includes a river, cave river, cave lake, magma pipe, chasm, pit, demon pit, sand, and trees in a calm/serene area. Black sand also lines the river even though you can't see it here, and the site has enormous amounts of magnetite and flux stone for steel, but unfortunately lacks coke producing materials.

The area I have selected here has everything except the trees, serene area, chasm (it still includes a large pit type chasm), and cave river.

[[image:SiteLocation.png]]

If this were extended a little to the right it would reach the chasm, and a little to the left would reach the cave river. Another interesting way to use the site would be to select the magma vent and the top part of the map, which would include the trees and serene area, but cut off the demon and chasm pits.

-Helo

=== Seed 1988: Two pools of magma, chasm, river and demon pits relatively near to the surface ===
On the 8th tile down from the top and 2nd right from left on the world view there is a volcano surrounded by mountains. The tile northeast of the main volcano contains the magma vent, river and a chasm between them. There also is a second magma pool on the same side with the river. Small traces of adamantite can be found relatively near the surface, but if you go deeper you will find demon pits. The site, however, is rich only in copper apart from the adamantite.

-Elmokki

=== Volcano + Vent surveys ===

List of every volcano visible on the world map, with notes about biomes, water supplies, and other influences on site selection; every vent within 2-4 squares of visible volcanoes; and other sites I've stumbled across on these maps.

* [[User:Kidinnu/8998|Seed 8998]]
* [[User:Kidinnu/9001|Seed 9001]]

=== Seed 92003: Respectable site, probably comparable to Paul's ===

Volcano, flux, good minerals, all civs, sand and trees to the east. No outdoor river, but cave river, lake, pits, chasm. Can be shrunk to 5x5, maybe less, keeping the volcano in the SE corner to retain the best internal features (I'll be vague about which those are to not hint too much about where everything is located).

Generated under Windows NT, not sure if that'll produce a different layout for other OSes.

Still looking for a compact site with all the above goodies plus... skeletal elephants. The northernmost volcano of seed 92001 has almost all that, but is missing flux. Waaaah.

[[Image:Seed_92003.png]]

=== Seed 2536495025: Another respectable site ===

On the world map, 9th column from the right, 3rd row from the top.

Right on the volcano square.

6x4 area at the bottom of the local map gives running surface water, sand, iron ore, flux, abundant hunting grounds and wild plants, but a slight wood shortage, and no coke, lignite, or tin (I happen to have a thing for Bronze.)

=== Seed 987654321 - Quicky ===
''Title: STANDARD'' 
Only 5 rejects, so this one is a quick generation!

=== Seed 473220798 - A quirky one ===
The parameter title, not name, was "SEED" and it was on Windows XP
A world with fairly interesting geography. There are 4 large rivers, various sized oceans, and a few magma pockets here and there. In the south there is very long river that is in a freezing climate so it can start frozen over and has a few magma pockets along it, in case you are feeling adventurous.

=== Seed 120 (=lol!) ===
''It is a well known fact that when you write "lol" with 1337-language, it is written "101". In binary, this is the same as the decimal number 5. This means that "lol!" = 5! From math we all(?) know that 5! = 120. Therefore: 120 = lol!'' 
'''But enough gibberish.''' This world has '''1 reject''' when using the '''seed 120''' 
There is volcano in a forest with a river nearby, and an aquifier for challenge! To find it, its the 5th tile from the left, 4th tile from the bottom on the world map when choosing a site. Also check out two tiles to the right of this (still on the world map), and you will find a volcanic island! :D Searching around you will also find major rivers. In other words, a quick cool seed. Enjoy

=== Seed 1205746126, Waterfall, Magma, Trees, Chalk, Sand, Minerals ===

Need to select random name, which turns out to be "Sil Num", created with version 33a or 33b.
Unfortunately it takes a *long* time because of 266 rejects !

Nice starting site with nearly everything. Of particular note is the 9 level high waterfall in the SE corner of the selected region.

[[Image:Waterfall-1205746126-location.jpg]]

=== Seed 1639366901, A location with practically everything ===

46 rejects.

This seed was the first I created, it has several volcano vents, but one in particular is just fantastic. I can't remember the exact location, but a survey of all the volcano vents will eventually locate it.

[[Image:Worldofdragons.PNG]]

Sand Types: White and Red
Ore: Iron, Aluminum and Adamantite... plus a lot more
On-Map opposition: Kobolds, Antmen, troglodytes, giant spiders. magamen and more.

Major Geographic features:

1) The river runs through a canyon, the northern half runs through a red sand basin, the bottom through lush forest.

2) The canyon walls are sheer faces... there is no way to walk out of the river bed into the upper hills!

3) The east bank has the magma, and white sand on the upper tiers to the north, and forests to the south. Be warned, magma channelers: There's a cave river directly below the eastern canyon cliff face. I lost a game by hitting that and overflowing. :/

4) The west bank has a bottomless chasm, and tons of kobolds, trogs, antmen, giant spiders and probably more. And is scattered with loot! It appears the kobolds have been ambushing caravans for a while.... can you stop them?

Also: The kobolds will actually ambush a caravan or two if you are lucky!

And on and on.

=== Seed 1912015873: Mirthful Mountains ===

This produces about 52 rejects, but some of them do a lot of thinking.

In the middle of the map is a huge range of mirthful mountains.

Whatever you'd want them for.

=== Seed 2937366080: Palin's Epic Seed ===
Taken from: [http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=11&t=001161 Bay 12 Forums Thread]

'''Generate with a random name.'''

Features:

Water Source, Iron, Limestone, Magma, Wood, Black Sand, Pit, Chasm, Massive amounts of gold and tetrahedrite, Considerable quantities of silver, platinum and gemstones, 20 layers of stone, Contact with all races.

If you extend the area selection upwards by one, you can also find a natural waterfall that falls five levels or so, and if you extend the area selection downwards a few squares there's an underground river.

[[IMAGE:6ug4qyr.png]]

File:6ug4qyr.png

2007-11-26T06:08:33Z

Vanan: Used w/ Palin's Epic Seed

Used w/ Palin's Epic Seed

40d Talk:Carp

2007-11-26T05:52:57Z

Vanan: oops, forgot sig

[[Unicorn|There is another contender for the position of King of the Animals, and this one is land-based.]] --[[User:BDR|BDR]] 14:42, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

Hmm, what about the other fish? sea lampreys? pike? etc? what about them? Do they just get shunted, and their named champions brushed aside?

:I was going to propose the eagles that seem untargetable as they fly in, grab a dwarf, then drop him from a dizzying height whereupon he spats into chunks on the ground.--[[User:Draco18s|Draco18s]] 03:45, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

::Well, until Toady lets carp and elephants fight each other to settle this once and for all, perhaps carp should be King of the Sea and elephants King of the Land. Eagles can have King of the Air.--[[User:Xazak|Xazak]] 19:53, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

:::Hmm, wonder if you can have those eagles tamed. Dwarven air force anyone? --[[User:Frostedfire|frostedfire]] 10:02, 9 November 2007 (AEDT)

It might be worth noting somewhere that you only seem to get "dangerous" fish if you have an actual river (or coastline?). If you only have a brook and murky pools, you get our old friends turtles and salmon who never attack or scare anyone. From what I can tell, salmon, turtles, and char seem to be classified as vermin, not creatures, so they don't freak out the dwarfs. The aquifer seems safe too, though that may depend on what other water sources are nearby.

Can anyone confirm or refute? -- [[User:Angela Christine|Angela Christine]] 19:32, 9 November 2007 (EST)

::From what I've seen, this is correct. While starting and abandoning several fortresses trying to get the handle of making machines and other devious devices, 5 out of 5 fortresses started next to brooks generated no dangerous fish, while 3 of the 4 started next to major rivers and 2 out of 2 started on the coast had my poor dwarves molested by those vile things. --[[User:TheUbie|TheUbie]] 01:57, 18 November 2007 (EST)

:::Brooks cannot contain fish because they don't exist on two z-levels, at least that's what I've seen. No fish. --[[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 00:52, 26 November 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Carp

2007-11-26T05:52:28Z

Vanan:

40d Talk:Stone detailing

2007-11-24T07:42:17Z

Vanan: New page: Calling the process tedious and adding opinion really violates the whole idea behind a wiki voice and wiki style. Just my .02 since you asked for more than one opinion in your comment when...

Calling the process tedious and adding opinion really violates the whole idea behind a wiki voice and wiki style. Just my .02 since you asked for more than one opinion in your comment when you reverted Maximus's edit. (Executive Summary: Maximus had the right idea.) --[[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 02:42, 24 November 2007 (EST)

40d Talk:Indecisive's illustrated fortress mode tutorial

2007-11-24T07:38:21Z

Vanan: /* Guide overwhelming to new players */

== Image Thumbnailing ==

This page is huge as it is. I'm considering thumbnailing the images. Good idea / bad idea? [[User:EighenIndemnis|EighenIndemnis]] 13:58, 5 November 2007 (EST)

:Yes, please. Thumbnailing would be good - we could probably stand to remove some of the images entirely, as many are redundant or very obvious. It's important to be clear, but some of these are truly unnecessary. --[[User:Turgid Bolk|Turgid Bolk]] 14:34, 5 November 2007 (EST)

::Okay, gave it a shot. Will clean up and add more captions later. [[User:EighenIndemnis|EighenIndemnis]] 14:54, 5 November 2007 (EST)

== Crashes ==

All of the crashes you were having might be because of the well you built. Other people have mentioned that building wells causes their game to freeze up multiple times, I've noticed the same thing too. In a fortress where I saved just before building a well, I hadn't crashed once. I built the well, then about 5 minutes later I froze completely. Reloading the save, I didn't build the well, and have gone another two or three years without seeing a single crash. --[[User:The Cheshire Cat|The Cheshire Cat]] 15:18, 9 November 2007 (EST)

== Guide overwhelming to new players ==

This tutorial is very expansive and can be a confusing read for a new player. Perhaps sections could be split up into their own page, like a workshops guide, farm guide or well guide to reduce this article's size. While it does cover many topics in brief, I'm not sure what this guide is accomplishing that [[your first fortress]] isn't. Perhaps this article should be viewed as more of an ''example'' and less of a tutorial. - [[User:Mad Mallard|Mad Mallard]] 02:30, 24 November 2007 (EST)
:New Player here, this guide taught me how to play the game. The pictures add a lot to comprehension compared to YFF (Your First Fortress), also the instructions are more in depth and better explain mechanics, plus it takes the gameplay much further than YFF (which hints at possible futures but doesn't really help me understand why I need those futures) I didn't find the guide overwhelming because I would read a bit, play, pause, read a bit, play, explore, read a bit, etc. It works fine the way it is, in my opinion and it is a great resource that doesn't need any more mucking about with then has already been done :) --[[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 02:38, 24 November 2007 (EST)

User talk:Rick

2007-11-19T16:44:18Z

Vanan: /* Requests */

== Requests ==
Hey there. Thanks for writing reveal.exe. It's made my dwarves' lives so much easier!

Do you take requests?

And is this the right place to ask? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 20:32, 10 November 2007 (EST)

: Yes, and yes. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 20:49, 10 November 2007 (EST)

::Excellent! Now, I don't know how many people would use it, but I'd love to see a utility that would allow me to choose the temperature/forest/shrub/surroundings/neighbours when starting out. I like to stick to the same sort of areas, but it can be a pain finding them on the map - if they exist at all. Problem is, I think most people take what they're given, region-wise... so I don't think it'd have much of an audience. What do you think? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 20:55, 10 November 2007 (EST)

:: Er, I haven't just described startpoints.exe, have I? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 21:01, 10 November 2007 (EST)

::Well, if you're not averse to requests... A utility to activate the subterranean flag on indoor areas would be awesome for those of us who'd like to build surface castles in cold/freezing terrain without our dwarves dying of frostbite. -[[User:EarthquakeDamage|EarthquakeDamage]] 22:45, 10 November 2007 (EST)

::I'd like a rock/gem/ore tool. Would be really neat. Especially the ore/gem one. Also, maybe water/magma creation tools if possible?--[[User:Spelguru|Spelguru]] 01:29, 11 November 2007 (EST)

::Something similar to the old skills.exe would be great! --[[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 11:44, 19 November 2007 (EST)

== Wild Praise ==
Thank you so much for your incredible work! Your applications add so much fun to the game! --[[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 13:56, 17 November 2007 (EST)

== In reply to ==
Your statement to me on my page, "Don't subject your opinion unto others. (Though I think you were just trying to be funny...) --Rick 03:54, 31 October 2007 (EDT)"

Of course I was. But some people have no real sense of humor.

Also, some people believe they can do things they tell others NOT to do. Your statement is a perfect example of this. You tell me not to subject others to MY opinion, but in doing so you are subjecting me to YOUR opinion. Oh yes, you are one of the VIPs in the DF community, because you wrote a couple utilities. So I suppose I should be humble in your presence, and bow to someone so great. I would do that, but when I bow, I do it facing AWAY from that person, and I drop my trousers at the same time. Still want me to bow to your greatness?

I read other contributions here that voice their opinions the same as I did. I wonder if you said the same thing to all of them as well? Tho since I was able to read the pages they wrote, you clearly did not delete their words as you did mine. And while other entries I made were either deleted or edited, as I expected them to be, since I am not a great wiki writer, you were the only one to send me a somewhat nasty note.

Think whatever you like of me, but at least I was contributing, and trying to give a few smiles along the way. Seems to me tho, that DF is fun, and it's wiki should be too. And, from other pages I read, others feel the same way I do. Maybe you should take a look around at some of their pages, and lighten up yourself a bit? Maybe trade with the elves for a tame blue jay, and drop it down your shorts. If that doesnt get a giggle out of you, maybe you should go join the undead at one of their ruins?

: Wow, way to blow up that up, I was just jesting. I think I'll leave your words here, [[User:Darknight|Darknight]]. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:25, 17 November 2007 (EST)

: Oh, and for the record, I did not remove your message, someone else did that. Check the page history. --[[User:Rick|Rick]] 19:29, 17 November 2007 (EST)

User talk:Rick

2007-11-17T18:56:38Z

Vanan:

User talk:Vanan

2007-11-17T18:55:43Z

Vanan:

(About the stone management screw-up)
It's weird, since I did preview, and everything looked good. I never touched anything between the tags for the "rock compactor"-sketch (which I think was the thing that went weird) Then when I pressed 'save' it was all weird and screwed up.. I guess I must have done something weird that I didn't notice. Anyways, thanks for fixing the problem :)
:Anytime! :) --[[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 13:55, 17 November 2007 (EST)

Personality modding

2007-11-15T17:17:20Z

Vanan: Edit requested by original poster on forum.

This is untested, just conclusions from looking at the standard creatures:

format; [PERSONALITY:PersonalityTrait:min:medium:max]

An example is; [PERSONALITY:ACTIVITY_LEVEL:0:40:100]

List of personality traits:
<code>

ANXIETY

ANGER

DEPRESSION

SELF_CONSCIOUSNESS

IMMODERATION

VULNERABILITY

FRIENDLINESS

GREGARIOUSNESS

ASSERTIVENESS

ACTIVITY_LEVEL

EXCITEMENT_SEEKING

CHEERFULNESS

IMAGINATION

ARTISTIC_INTEREST

EMOTIONALITY

ADVENTUROUSNESS

INTELLECTUAL_CURIOSITY

LIBERALISM

TRUST

STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS

ALTRUISM

COOPERATION

MODESTY

SYMPATHY

SELF_EFFICACY

ORDERLINESS

DUTIFULNESS

ACHIEVEMENT_STRIVING

SELF_DISCIPLINE

CAUTIOUSNESS

</code>
Personality is determined individually for every individual creature, there is a 50% chance that it generates a random number between min- and medium, and a 50% between medium- and max.
Racily the default for all personality traits is [PERSONALITY:PERTRAIT:0:50:100]
I do not know if a personality trait can be set to more than 100 or less than 0.

Changing these tags do not require regeneration of the world, however existing creatures will keep their individual personality even if the raws are changed, completely new creatures will be generated using the new personalities,

This information has been assumed using 20% looking in the raws, 30% how I would have done if I were Toady, 50% knowing the way DF treats creatures and raws, and 0% actual scientific experimentation.

Copied from a post by Armok at: http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=13&t=000018

40d Talk:Technical tricks

2007-11-15T17:06:52Z

Vanan: /* Staying Inside? */

== Economy toggle ==
Can the dwarven economy be started in the present version? There are strings in the binary that make me think so, but I haven't been able to activate it. [[User:Geekwad|Geekwad]] 20:19, 6 November 2007 (EST)
:No, I don't believe so. I've read that Toady made a few errors with the economy system, and has it disabled in the current version until he gets it fixed. [[User:Hesitris|Hesitris]] 8:55, 15 November 2007

== Staying Inside? ==

When I was hiding my fledgling fortress from a small ogre warband on the surface, I hunkered down behind my fortifications, set my orders to "dwarves stay inside", and carried on with my development. My FPS was almost entirely at my cap, 100fps. When I turned it off, it almost immediately dropped to 60-70 fps. Has anybody else had this happen to them, and should it be posted on this page?

:Sounds like "Dwarves Stay Inside" was complicating pathing. I think that's a lot more common in this version, the Z-axis complicates pathing greatly over the 2d version and the addition of traffic zones does the same thing. [[User:Kefkakrazy|Kefkakrazy]] 08:57, 15 November 2007 (EST)

::Don't you mean that it was uncomplicated the pathing? To me it reads as though he gets 100fps with dwarves stay inside set. This makes sense from a programming point of view and assuming that when routes are calculated the fact outside is allowed significantly increases the breathed of the search space. However either my understanding of exactly how much path finding is done is wrong or there is a flaw in Toady's code because pathing in this game adds way too much load on the system. --[[User:Shades|Shades]] 10:59, 15 November 2007 (EST)

:::There are numerous bugs associated with the dwarves stay inside command, Toady mentioned several fixes coming on that issue. It seems they don't drop any outside goals when ordered inside, so they go just inside, stand right at the exit, and do nothing as they try to pathfind a way outside, sounds FPS expensive. [[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 12:06, 15 November 2007 (EST)

40d:Stone management

2007-11-15T17:02:55Z

Vanan: Undo revision 9377 by Uberubert (Talk) - See Stone management talk page

[[Mine]] for long enough and you'll find yourself surrounded with various [[stone]]s and [[ore]]s. How do you get rid of them?

Here follows several '''stone management''' techniques.

== Techniques ==

=== Slow and steady ===

Dig slowly, and use your masons to the fullest by creating roads, blocks, doors, floodgates, or even reflooring or rewalling. This way, you'll reduce the clutter and produce value for your fort at the same time.

=== Catapult ===
Build a [[catapult]] (or three), and assign a dwarf (or five) to keep firing stones into walls, or at [[camel]]s. The stones will shatter and be gone from your sight!

=== Construct Buildings ===
The building interface might be slow, but constructing stone buildings using [[wall]]s and [[floor]]s above ground (or underground) is a great way to handle your stone problem. Not only do you use up the stone from your excavations, but you also create usable indoor space without having to mine any additional stone.

=== Dump ===

This is a preferred method due to its ease and usefulness. However, it could easily be considered an exploit, and might not work in later versions.{{version|0.27.169.33a}}

# Make a [[zone]] of 1x1 or 1x2 tiles (preferably near your stone-needy [[workshop]]s), and mark it as a garbage dump.
# Press {{k|k}} and find a stone. Press {{k|d}}, and the stone will be marked for dumping.
# A dwarf with refuse-hauling will come by, and take the stone to the garbage dump.

* '''Advantage''': No matter how many stones you mark for dumping, they will all be placed on the same tiny garbage tile! So basically, mark all the stones you want dumped and they will be dumped. You are now able to place '''all''' the stones and ores in the fortress on 1 tile!
* '''Disadvantage''': Every dumped stone will be marked as "[[Forbidden]]", and will not be used in stone-production. If you want to use the dumped stones, you must press 'k', find the pile of stones, and press {{k|f}} on every stone on the list (using {{k|+}}/{{k|-}} to navigate through the list). You can also use the designation 'reclaim items' to un-forbid a whole area at once.

==== Rock chute ====

You can dig a [[channel]], and make a [[zone]] over it. Mark it as a garbage dump, and dwarves will dump stones down the channel. The stones will end up in the bottom tile.

==== Rock compactor ====

Similar to the rock chute, but build a drawbridge in the pit and a pressure plate at the entrance to the chute, linked to the bridge. Make sure you set the pressure plate to trigger on citizens. Alternately, just link it to a lever and pull it every once in a while. Mark the channel and empty tile as a dump zone. When a stone is dropped, the drawbridge will crush the stone, permanently destroying it.

<pre>Level 0:

=====
==.==
== ==
==^==

=====
=BBB=
=BBB=
==D==

. - Channel
= - Wall
^ - Pressure plate
B - Drawbridge - make sure to set to raise while constructing, as opposed to retract.
D - Door - keep locked to avoid accidently crushing dwarves
</pre>

=== Flooring ===
Creating stone [[floor]]s using the nearest material is the fastest way for dwarves to remove stone, but requires a bit of extra effort setting individual stone floors. Use {{Key|b}}uild > {{Key|C}}onstructions and then {{Key|f}}loor to build a floor. If you move down using the cursors and select it with Enter you can repeatidly press Enter to place lots of floor plans using the nearest material.

=== Workshops ===
A [[Mason's workshop]] uses stone exclusively, so is a good way of cleaning out stone in the vicinity of the workshop. Items such as rock doors, rock [[block]]s, [[statue]]s, [[table]]s, [[throne]]s, and [[coffin]]s are often in short supply. Build a mason's workshop in a new excavation area and move it around when the rocks are cleared.

Additionally, if you make rock blocks (always useful in construction) they can be stacked in [[bin]]s 5 to a tile, which is more efficient then storing the rock parts. A downside to this method, if overused however, is that since [[bin]]s cannot be constructed from from rock, other resources will be diverted from more useful endeavors.

A [[craftsdwarf's workshop]] could also be used to make lots of stone crafts, which can always be traded away. A crafted stone counts towards the fortress value instead of being a worthless stone.

=== Minimizing clutter ===
The easiest way to avoid stone clutter is not to produce it in the first place. Use unskilled miners for initial fortress excavation to reduce the amount of useless stone they create, and don't dig out more than necessary. Produce lots of [[barrel|barrels]] and [[bin|bins]] to cut down on your need for stockpile space.

=== Stockpile ===
'''This is not a recommended method due to space requirements.'''
Build a large [[stockpile]] for stone away from your fortress. Dwarves will carry stones out to the stockpile, and they will no longer clutter up your fortress. The stockpile needs to be placed somewhere without stones, because only 1 stone will be placed per tile, and will result in long hauling trips.

== Reasons for managing stone ==

=== Stockpiles ===
On some stockpiles, you will be unable to use the tiles that contain a stone. It will therefore be a good thing to clear up room for the things you want to stockpile.

=== Aesthetics ===
Many players find the fortress more enjoyable to look at if it looks nice and uniform. Random stones lying about are clutter which block the view of a tile and prevent stockpiles from being filled. Create smooth clear floor for a leaner, fitter, happier fortress.

=== Not '''Actually''' Necessary ===
You actually don't need to remove stones at all, except for the stockpile thing. Clearing out the fortress for stone is more of a personal priority rather than an essential need or requirement. However, people have had a tendency to ask about and discuss this specific subject, so here you are. A guide to stone management.

[[Category:Guides]]

40d Talk:Stone management

2007-11-15T17:01:10Z

Vanan:

What is considered ''dated'' on this page? Does it still deserve the category/template? --[[User:Markavian|Markavian]]
:I applied the tag because of the information regarding dumping multiple stones into one tile, because it may be regarded as an exploit that could be removed somewhere down the line. I'm not sure if that's the right way to use that template. If not, just kill it. -- [[User:EighenIndemnis|EighenIndemnis]] 16:32, 5 November 2007 (EST)
::You can expand the stonedumping trick to all sorts of other things. If you just mark every ore you dig up as "dump," and have your dump near where your metal industry is to be formed, then you can just undesignate all the ore at once and have a huge pile of raw materials RIGHT THERE for your smelters. [[User:Kefkakrazy|Kefkakrazy]] 17:27, 5 November 2007 (EST)

== what happened here? ==

Something went wrong somewhere... I'm sorry, I don't know how i managed to screw up this page... :(

I'll leave it alone now...
-Uberubert
:Don't worry, wikis are built to be reverted to older copies when needed. [[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 12:01, 15 November 2007 (EST)

40d:Pregenerated worlds

2007-11-15T16:54:18Z

Vanan: /* Seed 593046736: Grand Canyon + Giant Caldera + all of Paul's & More! */ - Added very important generation note from the forum thread and my own screenshot of location

In order to rapidly find working worlds and save on generating time, some users pregenerate and share worlds to others. With the new seed technology, it is possible to share an entire world in as little as a dozen digits. Share neat worlds, unique worlds using Seeds to save upload time, or share worlds using the save file to save on world creation time for others.

== Downloadable worlds ==

Downloadable worlds are worlds which have been generated and then compressed into a single archive file for sharing over the internet. Download the file then extract the folder inside the archive into your /data/save folder in order to use it.

=== Lathondur Minbaz ===

Direct download available here: [http://morlark.uwcs.co.uk/misc/region1.tar.gz Lathondur Minbaz]

=== The Continents of Mist ===

Direct download available here: [http://rapidshare.com/files/69121571/continents_of_mist.zip The Continents of Mist] 
Download includes a list of magma and non-magma sites, each with (non-spoily) description and location map. 
(version v0.27.169.33a, seed 757133686, provided by Fedor)

== Seeds ==

Seeded worlds are special "codes" which tell the game's pseudo-random number generator (a sophisticated mathematical function which produces numbers that seem random) where to begin generating a world. Because the random number generator is actually just a mathematical function and thus always produces the same result when given a certain input, you can "seed" the generator to produce an entire series of random numbers on another computer that are exactly the same as they were originally produced on the first computer.

To use a seeded world, select ''Create a New World'' during the main menu, then hit {{key|s}} to specify a seed. Type in the seed and hit {{key|Enter}}, then hit {{key|Enter}} one more time to begin generation. It will still take the normal amount of time to generate the world, and you will still have rejects before the world is produced.

The random seed used also determines the world's name if a random name is selected. As a consequence, the choice of whether to use a random name or a given name can result in a completely different world even when the same seed is used. Seed publishers should specify whether a random name was selected when generating the world.

=== Seed 0: 0 Rejects and plenty of awesomeness ===

This world uses a random name and was generated in v0.27.169.33a.

[http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=worldmapregion210500hk1.jpg You may see this for yourself here.] Notables are a fairly large ocean in the lower-left corner, about 6 volcanoes scattered around the map, and I firmly believe there is a final volcano in the lower-right tundra corner of the map (because I *saw* it while the world was generating and the year was 1048, dammit), though the picture doesn't show it. There also seems to be a nice variety of environments for your leisure. Enjoy!

And I have found it. Behold the beauty:

[[Image:Freezingvolcano.JPG|A volcano in an unusual area]]

=== Seed 2: A Quick One ===

This seed only rejects 3 regions, so it is one of the quickest to generate. This saves time if your computer is slow, and don't want to download the pregenerated one.

Here is a starting place for seed 2 that is relatively flat, has magma and water on the same Z level. Has flux, sand. Heavily forested and max herbs. Enjoy.

The aquifer is only in the top left corner of this map, and can easily be avoided if you don't wish to deal with one.

'''Neighbors:''' [[Dwarves]], [[Elves]], [[Goblins]], [[Humans]]

'''Features:''' [[Magma vent]], [[Aquifer]]

'''Dominant Stone Types:''' [[Granite]], [[Rhyolite]], [[Andesite]]

'''Sand Types:''' [[Loamy sand|Loamy]], [[Black sand|Black]]

'''Climate:''' [[Temperate]]

'''Biomes:''' [[Temperate Freshwater Swamp]]

'''Generation Features:''' Only 3 rejections

[[Image:Dwarfort_2007-11-03_02-06-26-53.jpg]]

=== Seed 2577317804: Volcano Amidst a Thick Forest ===

VeryInky of the #bay12games [[IRC]] channel has discovered that generator seed 2577317804 guarantees a decent sized magma vent, which apparently flows downward to the core of the planet itself. And luckily, it's surrounded by a scenic forest housing deadly creatures.

[[Image:Volcano.jpg]]

The square above this scenic forest with a magma vent, contains also a mamgma vent, a large amount of mountain, but also a forgotten ruin.

=== Seed 2268220040: 3 Volcanic Islands, With at Least 10 Other Random Land Based Volcanoes ===

This world contains over 10 volcanoes, most of them in reasonable positions, some in Forests, some in in mountains, some that are right next to mountains ''and'' forests, and others in less convenient places. However, the real gems are the 3 volcanic islands. Some screens of the volcanic islands even contain both ocean tiles volcanic vent on the same local map.

Ever wanted that volcanic AND secret island lair? This is the world for you.

[[Image:Island-Volcanic-Lair-(s)-cl.gif]]

=== Seed 3089130238: Isolated feature-rich mountain ===
'''Neighbours:''' dwarves.

'''Features:''' 2 chasms (snowflake formation and dryed magma tube), magma tube, cave river and deep pits.

'''Dominant stone type:''' obsidian, gabbro and granite.

'''Common stone types:''' microcline, olivine, orthoclase.

'''Sand type:''' yellow sand near magma-tube.

'''Minerals:''' mountain is rich in copper and silver ores as well as
clusters of gemstones; it lacks, however, steel-producing minerals.

'''Climate:''' untamed wilds mountain surrounded by joyfull tropical broadleaf forests, where both highwood and featherwood grow. Unicorns were seen roaming there.

'''FPS-saving:''' Downmost row on the map-rectangle contains only snowflake-chasm. Leftmost column contains the aforementioned chasm and a part of the forest.

[[Image:3089130238.PNG]]

=== Seed 3706678589: The Domain of Dragons...? ===
'''Horrible Descriptions of Vagueness:''' Near the southern dwarven civilization, there are volcanos right near warm forests, and a little hunting can find you a minimum-size area containing a magma vent, a river, heavy forest, and sand. Which would be ideal if not for the fact that this is a Tropical Moist Broadleaf Forest we're talking about, which, if the forum is to be believed, contains some of the most [[Elephant|terrifying creatures]] ever to walk any of the worlds. --[[User:Alfador|Alfador]] 00:01, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

=== Seed 1149670256 ===
<blockquote>Pretty funny oddity while I was making new world map, there's two 'volcano mountains' next to each other And in the tile just south of the left most volacno there's both chams and volcano quite close to each other, just dig nice hole in between and you have one chasmfull of dead people, hehe Both of them seem pretty hostile though... To get to the location, just pick regular size zone so that you can reach the red ~ (volcano) icon and two or three rows below it and same amount to left. Then you have both

Didn't check the other volcano sites though, but the one I checked was ~21 levels deep of volcano and same for chasm... </blockquote>[http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=001246]

=== Seed 1621458352 ===
<blockquote>Most notable here: a free-standing good-aligned volcano in the woods with a magma vent, a magma lake, a chasm and a water lake all within a small area. For good measure there's a Kobold city on the other side of the mountain, as well as a cave river and chasm-pit somewhere... To top it off it also has adamantine, though it might be hard to get all the features in one fortress.

To find it, look in the top left corner for a lone volcano in a pine forest.

The same world has an evil-aligned volcano in a good-aligned shrubland... I didn't explore the features in that one, as it's so large z-wise it hurts my computer, but it has the brook and vent really close together.
(...)
The world also has at least one site where good and evil vegetated areas meet by a mountain, allowing you to have every type of shurb and every type of tree... except highwood...

It also has an absolutely huge named peak sticking out of a good-aligned forest, as well as a nice volcano sticking out of a good-aligned forest...</blockquote>[http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=001246]

=== Seed 941486140: Zero rejects ===
<blockquote>(N)ot only is it ZERO REJECTED, but its got several island volcanoes. (O)ne of them has a caldera by the coast with a cliff overhanging it, and an aquifer which (I) THINK has fresh water in it(...) (S)everal spots have magma and steep cliffs and trees and rivers. Lots of the goblin forts are in neat locations.</blockquote>[http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=001247]

=== Seed 4265985437: A little bit of everything ===

This map has just about anything you could ask for, all in a neat 4x5 area. The low cliffs and small area make for good fps. It was first mentioned on the forums by Paul. The only thing it is really lacking is sand, '''unless''' you grow your starting area eastward by 2 more spaces, in which case you'll get some spaces of red sand. Note that it was generated on windows XP, and may be different on another OS.

'''Features:'''

'''1.''' Small cave river with waterfall source falling into chasm tiles.

'''2.''' Underground magma chamber, unrevealed at first but close to surface.

'''3.''' A fair sized chasm in one corner.

'''4.''' Adamantine + pits deep below. Dwarves beware.

'''5.''' Excellent minerals, sedimentary limestone and various other base rocks are a source for abundant magnetite with large platinum veins and varied precious metals and gems.

'''6.''' Outdoor trees. Not overly abundant but enough for most purposes.

'''7.''' River running through the area that doesn't freeze (warm climate).

The region is home to thriving goat population, along with occasional visits from hoary marmots and rhesus macaques. A lone giant eagle can usually be seen soaring overhead, ready to devour your hapless dwarves and livestock.

Note that this seed does have 51 rejects, but these are all quickly rejected so the creation time isn't too bad.

[[Image:4265985437.PNG]]

=== Seed 957776166: 11 Volcanos ===
<blockquote>What's special? Well at least 11 volcanos are dotting the lower half, 2 of which are islands. Should be something for everybody maybe, haven't checked it all out. (Except all you glacier folk.)</blockquote> [http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=001247]

Edit: Ok, checked this world out a bit more and so far:
2 volcanic islands in the lower left,
at least 2 volcanic mountains to be played directly on,
at least 2, possibly 4 aquifer volcanoes on right,
2 sets of volcanic twins along lower right mountain range, top set is rich with obsidian starting areas.

On a sad note, still nothing special spotted in the north (cold), and I believe all these areas are alignment neutral. (Although there are good and evil ranges in the world.)

Well, enjoy.
-Funkadelic Jive Turkey

=== Seed 891230954: Resource heaven ===

Fairly quick seed (12 rejects). Quite by accident I stumbled across a sweet little gem of a starting location, although you have to use a fairly large play area to get the full benefit of it. Includes a magma vent with an excellent mineral selection, including magnetite, bituminous coal, and marble (usable as a flux). Can anyone say "steel production"? The upper left-hand corner has white sand for glass production, if you're willing to play with a 5x5 or 6x6 area to stretch from the sand to the magma vent. The sand area also has an aquifer if you want one, but the rest of the map is dry so you have ample stone at your disposal, and the entire map is heavily forested. Reasonably flat map, plenty of ponds. Nothing horribly exciting here, just tons and tons of resources.

[[Image:df_891230954.PNG]]

=== Seed 1010101010: 4 Volcano Cluster ===
This map contains a cluster of 4 volcanos, unfortunately, you can only access two of them in Dwarf Fortress mode and may be in dangerous territories. There's also a few other volcanoes and possibly a few lava vents as well.

[[Image:Volcanocluster.PNG]]

=== Seed 593046736: Grand Canyon + Giant Caldera + all of Paul's & More! ===
'''''Note: The non-random name "The World of Pagan" must be used in order for this seed to generate properly!'''''

This was the very first world I generated, with my first fort being at the isolated mountain cluster on the west side, right by the goblin fortress there. However, when I started searching for a site with HIDDEN_FUN_STUFF, I stumbled on a location that has everything Paul's seed gives plus a whole lot more. In the far southwest of the world is a volcano near the dwarven civilization. This volcano is on the northeast side of the southwest mountains, and the tile with the good stuff is one region square northeast of there (non-descript on the surface). CAVEAT: to fit all the good stuff, you need a local area 9 squares wide and 10 squares tall, starting from the northeast corner. The outdoor river is the feature you lose by trimming the bottom (but you don't lose the second cave river), and if you trim from the right, you lose the giant caldera (but not the magma tube). You could probably get as small as 6x6 and still get everything but the caldera and outdoor river.

'''1.''' quick to generate -- only 4 rejects

'''2.''' a massive mountain peak, with 79 levels of vertical between the top and bottom levels!!!!

'''3.''' a giant volcano caldera to the northeast, plunging for dozens of levels

'''4.''' a crazy spidery chasm with literally dozens of side caves and all sorts of critters

'''5.''' a secret underground river with two waterfalls one that goes into a private chasm

'''6.''' a giant grand canyon to the south with a surface river that has a huge multi-level waterfall

'''7.''' an underground magma chamber that goes to the bottom

'''8.''' eerie glowing pits, complete with bizarre multi-level dungeon and torture room

'''9.''' a small selection of trees and shrubs

'''10.''' adamantine, iron, gold, platinum, copper, galore!

'''11.''' batmen, troglodytes, giant cave swallows, cave spiders, iron men, fire imps, kobolds, magma men, and more!

'''12.''' trade with all civs (human, dwarf, elf)

'''13.''' freezing cold 11 of 12 months of the year -- water only melts in early summer and freezes again by midsummer!!!

[[Image:593046736TheWorldofPagan.png]]

=== Seed 7185120: Snow-Encrusted ===

126 Rejections (and still under 15 minutes on my 1.6 GHz laptop).

This map has snow and ice, and lots of it. The world map looks almost completely frozen, only the bottom 3rd of the export map has significant quantities of non-snow area--which looks to be mostly desert and dry areas.

Haven't looked at the map in detail, might not be worth playing, but it was amusing.

=== Seed 71551: Another quickie ===

5 Rejects.

29 squares left and 11 squares up from the lower left corner is a mirthful glacier with a volcano and dolomite. Potential '''STEEL GLACIER'''!

-Ilmuri

=== Seed 3614285250: Steel, Glass, Obsidian, Platinum, and a cave river for good measure ===

Steel in the form of plentiful magnetite marble and coal, obsidian for rock crafts and swords, glass in the form of black sand, and a couple largish veins of platinum near the cliff face to the west.
The biggest downside is that it has about 131 rejections, and no pit either. Otherwise it would be just about the perfect fortress in 4x5. It's even got some nice cliff faces for the traditionalist. The cave river starts at the bottom of the map and it goes straight down (off the map), but it's a source of infinite water and cave plants nonetheless.

[[image:Steelglass fortress.png]]

=== Seed 2967067655: An interesting site with a lot to offer ===

It's too bad everything isn't more compact, but it's still possible to make several interesting fortresses out of one location. The local area includes a river, cave river, cave lake, magma pipe, chasm, pit, demon pit, sand, and trees in a calm/serene area. Black sand also lines the river even though you can't see it here, and the site has enormous amounts of magnetite and flux stone for steel, but unfortunately lacks coke producing materials.

The area I have selected here has everything except the trees, serene area, chasm (it still includes a large pit type chasm), and cave river.

[[image:SiteLocation.png]]

If this were extended a little to the right it would reach the chasm, and a little to the left would reach the cave river. Another interesting way to use the site would be to select the magma vent and the top part of the map, which would include the trees and serene area, but cut off the demon and chasm pits.

-Helo

=== Seed 1988: Two pools of magma, chasm, river and demon pits relatively near to the surface ===
On the 8th tile down from the top and 2nd right from left on the world view there is a volcano surrounded by mountains. The tile northeast of the main volcano contains the magma vent, river and a chasm between them. There also is a second magma pool on the same side with the river. Small traces of adamantite can be found relatively near the surface, but if you go deeper you will find demon pits. The site, however, is rich only in copper apart from the adamantite.

-Elmokki

File:593046736TheWorldofPagan.png

2007-11-15T16:52:39Z

Vanan: The much requested screenshot of the location of seed 593046736

The much requested screenshot of the location of seed 593046736

40d:Thought

2007-11-15T15:57:50Z

Vanan: spelling error

Dwarf psychology is not all that complex - various events cause dwarves to gain 'thoughts'. Thoughts have a [[happiness]]/unhappiness value. The value of all the thoughts a particular dwarf has is simply summed to determine how happy or unhappy they are. If dwarves are particularly unhappy, they may throw [[tantrum]]s, and may enter fell or macabre [[strange mood]]s.

To view a dwarf's thoughts, press {{key|v}} on the dwarf. Then press {{key|p}}(preferences) -> {{key|z}} -> {{key|enter}}. 
Now you will see descriptions on how the dwarf feels ''(Ecstatic, happy, content, unhappy, miserable)'', and what recent events made an impact on the dwarf. There are also some personal traits listed on the bottom.

== Happy thoughts ==
Some examples of happy thoughts: 
* '''"Dined in a good quality [[dining room]]"''' 
* '''"Had a good drink/meal"''' 
* '''"Admired a fine craft/furniture"''' 
* '''"Made a friend"''' 
* '''"Has been satisfied at work lately"''' 

==Unhappy thoughts ==
Some examples of unhappy thoughts: 
* '''"Slept without a [[bed]] / Slept in the mud"''' 
* '''"Slept without a decent room lately"''' 
* '''"Complained about the lack of [[chair]]s / [[table]]s"''' 
* '''"Complained about the [[military|draft]]"''' 
* '''"Lost a good friend/husband/wife/child"''' 
* '''"Was annoyed by [[vermin]]"''' 
* '''"Was disgusted by [[miasma]]"'''

40d:Mule

2007-11-14T18:19:58Z

Vanan: Small mistake made by me on the skin section of the butcher table.

{{CreatureInfo|name=Mule|symbol=M|color=brown|skulls=1|chunks=8|meat=8|fat=4|bones=8|skin=Yes}}
'''Mules''' are a hybrid of a horse father and a donkey mother, they are available for selection on the embark screen for most dwarven parties and cost 101 points.

{{Creatures}}
[[Category:Animals]]

40d:Dragon

2007-11-13T22:19:22Z

Vanan: As requested: icon and color for Dragon on butcher template, source: http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-147-anoblesacrifice

{{CreatureInfo|name=Dragon|symbol=D|color=lightgreen|
bones=20|chunks=20|meat=20|fat=10|skulls=1|skin=Yes|}}

'''Dragons''' are ferocious predators. They are extremely hostile and difficult to kill. When a dragon enters your area, the game will announce its presence and its name.

== Butchered Yield ==

* dragon [[chunks]] [20]
* dragon [[food|meat]] [20]
* dragon [[fat]] [10]
* dragon [[bone]]s [20]
* dragon [[skin]]
* dragon [[skull]]

{{Creatures}}
[[Category:Megabeasts]]

User:Vanan

2007-11-13T20:39:47Z

Vanan:

I'm new to Dwarf Fortress and to writing for a Wiki, I am however, taking time to confirm my information!
I've tried to read everything I can on proper etiquette, but please let me know if I transgress.

Template:V0.31 creatures

2007-11-13T20:35:10Z

Vanan:

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| [[Camel]] - [[Carp]] - [[Cat]] - [[Cougar]] - [[Creature]] - [[Creatures]] - [[Deer]] - [[Elephant]] - [[Fire imp]] - [[Fox]] - [[Giant cave spider]] - [[Grizzly bear]] - [[Groundhog]] - [[Hoary marmot]] - [[Mountain goat]] - [[Mule]] - [[Muskox]] - [[Raccoon]] - [[Rhesus macaque]] - [[Unicorn]] - [[Wolf]]
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| [[Dragon]] - [[Bronze colossus]]
|-
| style="font-weight:bold; background-color: #ccf; padding-left: 1em; padding-right: 1em;" | [[:Category:Races|Races]]
| [[Dwarves]] - [[Elves]] - [[Humans]] - [[Goblins]]
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<noinclude>[[Category:Templates]]</noinclude>

40d:Mule

2007-11-13T20:35:04Z

Vanan: New page: {{CreatureInfo|name=Mule|symbol=M|color=brown|skulls=1|chunks=8|meat=8|fat=4|bones=8|skin=1}} '''Mules''' are a hybrid of a horse father and a donkey mother, they are available for selecti...

{{CreatureInfo|name=Mule|symbol=M|color=brown|skulls=1|chunks=8|meat=8|fat=4|bones=8|skin=1}}
'''Mules''' are a hybrid of a horse father and a donkey mother, they are available for selection on the embark screen for most dwarven parties and cost 101 points.

{{Creatures}}
[[Category:Animals]]

Talk:Main Page/archive2

2007-11-13T20:19:11Z

Vanan:

- GUYS I'VE TRIED TO IMPORT PRETTY MUCH ALL USER ACCOUNTS. Let me know if you notice something weird in this wiki, it's possible that parts of the import were fucked. --[[User:Senso|Senso]] 15:05, 29 October 2007 (EDT)

There's some people reporting problems in this thread: http://www.bay12games.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=001158 --[[User:BahamutZERO|BahamutZERO]] 15:22, 29 October 2007 (EDT)

The new version is out now! Update the main page! ~~

== Accounts had to be wiped ==

It's out!
It's out!
Rejoice!
By the way, my account is nonexistent, could you fix that?
--[[User:Smoking Gnu|Smoking Gnu]] 19:37, 29 October 2007 (EDT)

:You'll have to recreate it. --[[User:Peristarkawan|Peristarkawan]] 19:42, 29 October 2007 (EDT)
:My user account didn't turn up? :( --[[User:Markavian|Markavian]] 20:05, 29 October 2007 (EDT)
::Quoted from Senso (the wiki admin) on the forums:
::"I've tried importing the user accounts but since I've upgraded to a new version of MediaWiki, it doesn't work. They've made changes, whatever.
::
::So yeah, please recreate your account. It's sad, I know BUT LIFE IS SAD AND GLOOMY. You'll all forget about it once the new version is released."
::No big deal. --[[User:Janus|Janus]] 20:31, 29 October 2007 (EDT)
::Wow, the images during registration are ridiculous. Took me half a dozen until I could recognise more than half of it. --[[User:Ravana|Ravana]] 23:32, 29 October 2007 (EDT)
:::Haha I had the same trouble, I just kept going until I got one I could read. --[[User:Gibbonofdoom|Gibbonofdoom]] 03:58, 30 October 2007 (EDT)
:::-Yeah, that CAPTCHA was nearly impossible, took over 50 trys to get in. :) Anyways, it's better than SPAMFEST for sure. ;) --[[User:UltimaPhantom|UltimaPhantom]] 01:52, 9 November 2007 (EST)
::::Yeah sorry about that but it's either crappy CAPTCHA or SPAMFEST, I had to pick. --[[User:Senso|Senso]] 22:47, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

== Change guide? ==

Was just thinking, perhaps one of the links (or sections) on the main page should be a guide to the major changes between last version and this one. Yes, a TON of stuff has changed, but a lot also has not, and a lot of the core concepts are the same... so I would imagine many of us who have played the previous version(s) would love a section where we can see a list of new basics we have to learn, along with links to those things' individual pages... like, z-axis (obviously), mechanisms, fluid dynamics, nobles, elevation/slope, farming... you get the idea. --[[User:Cliffjeff|Cliffjeff]] 11:43, 30 October 2007 (EDT)
:Yea, I'm thinking not. Isn't the whole point of DF finding things out on your own? "Losing is Fun" and all that. Ok, so if we summarized all the changes, and someone (like me) didn't want to know we could not just not look at it right? What can I say? I'M WEAK! If we summarize the changes I will CONSUME it! (I'm only here because I still have another 6 hours of work before I can go home and try it!)
::Meanwhile, I'm lazy and stubborn and would love a consolidated list of only new things I need to know =p and I'm also trapped at work and unable to mess around in the game :( but if the whole point was finding out things on your own, why would we have a wiki? ;p --[[User:Cliffjeff|Cliffjeff]] 15:58, 30 October 2007 (EDT)
:::I agree, I think the change guide is a good idea, and it would also help us direct our attention at the articles that are likely to need the most work. --[[User:Peristarkawan|Peristarkawan]] 16:01, 30 October 2007 (EDT)
::::It ought not to be very hard to generate a basic change guide based on the official change notes, and then update it as the details are discovered. --[[User:Bobson|Bobson]] 16:26, 30 October 2007 (EDT)
:::A change guide 'page' might be useful pointing out major differences but I think the style of the wiki should be aimed at new users who know nothing of previous versions. I think we should not compare old/vs new as a rule, but if necessary we should include comparisons at the bottom of a page as apposed to the main article. That is how I am writing my edits. --[[User:Markavian|Markavian]] 23:26, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

== Basic Format ==
I think the [[Farming]] page is a good format for most of the key pages, perhaps the structure from the archive should be followed. --[[User:Infinity|Infinity]] 05:56, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
:Agreed, I've tried to copy this style on several pages, e.g. [[Gear Assembly]]. --[[User:Markavian|Markavian]] 23:30, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
I would like to add a request for a 'build tree' of sorts. It would, for example, make figuring out how to get iron bars a whole lot less frustrating. --[[User:Dogcow|Dogcow]] 17:18, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
:Hello, I've added a whole page on the various metals you can make now. This is my first time editing a wiki so feel free to make corrections for me if you want, just leave me a message on the page letting me know where I went wrong. Also, since some Alloys involve smelting 3 bars of metal now, I have included a new template called Alloy3 to display these. I'm not sure on the colors though so have at it where I'm off :) --[[User:Chthon|Chthon]] 11:33, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

== Fresh start ==
Hey, I just wanted to say... starting afresh for me seems to be the right move. So much has changed (I remember a focus on 'farming' and 'irrigation' before) that it just makes sense to start from a clean sheet. We've got 10 months of work to catch up on, good luck every one! --[[User:Markavian|Markavian]]

:I agree. It's also a lot of fun to go "hey, I found out something for myself! Is there a wiki page on it yet?" and adding stuff. Or wandering about the wiki and going "what's missing? Can I fill in the informational gap?"--[[User:Draco18s|Draco18s]] 17:32, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

Just a thought, but how do people feel about adding date released on the frontpage along with the version number? --[[User:Qalnor|Qalnor]]

== Importing old entries ==

What's the stance on importing entries from the old wiki for stuff like general item stats? Most of them are still correct (or nearly so) and it would be nice not to have to switch between this and the old wiki any more. I can add a disclaimer to them stating I pulled them from the archives if that's appropriate. --[[User:Xazak|Xazak]] 15:07, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
:IMO (and I'm not admin or anything) it should be ok but only if you are 100% sure EVERYTHING is correct, and have verified it personally. I've edited at least one article someone copy-pasted with no changes that had old info in it so far and it makes me sad. --[[User:BurnedToast|BurnedToast]] 15:38, 2 November 2007 (EDT)
::Yes, I second this. Please be diligent if you are going to import old information. Even if you can't do it yourself, at least categorize it as needing verification so someone with the free time can. --[[User:EighenIndemnis|EighenIndemnis]] 15:37, 6 November 2007 (EST)
:You could use [[Template:Verify]] to indicate that something needs confirmation in the new version. --[[User:Senso|Senso]] 15:47, 6 November 2007 (EST)

I have noticed an increase of pages in which only an old Wiki page is copied/pasted along with a warning that it was copied and thus may not be accurate. Is it just me or that's ''exactly'' what we didn't want to happen, and one of the reasons we started fresh with the new Wiki to begin with? --[[User:Eagle of Fire|Eagle of Fire]] 01:45, 9 November 2007 (EST)

== Demystify messages? ==

Probably against the spirit of 'losing is fun', but how about a page that explains smoe of the more cryptic messages, such as; 'job item misplaced' and 'job item lost or destroyed'? [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 16:43, 8 November 2007 (EST)

Also, is there a suggestions pages? This probably isn't the best page to add ideas... [[User:Runspotrun|Runspotrun]] 16:44, 8 November 2007 (EST)

== Humor? ==
Any thoughts about possibly linking [[Main Page/Quote Archive]] page somewhere on the main page? Its an orphan at the moment and is pretty funny and relevant. [[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 15:19, 13 November 2007 (EST)

User:Vanan

2007-11-13T20:14:14Z

Vanan: New page: Losing... is fun!

Losing... is fun!

File talk:DF comic2 chris.png

2007-11-13T20:09:34Z

Vanan: New page: Perhaps an index page linking to this and the first one while the author locates hosting? ~~~~

Perhaps an index page linking to this and the first one while the author locates hosting? [[User:Vanan|Vanan]] 15:09, 13 November 2007 (EST)