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		<title>Briess: moved Talk:Broken/40d\x3aBar to 40d Talk:Bar</title>
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		<updated>2010-03-08T04:11:47Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;moved &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Talk:Broken/40d%5Cx3aBar&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Broken/40d\x3aBar (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;Talk:Broken/40d\x3aBar&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php/40d_Talk:Bar&quot; title=&quot;40d Talk:Bar&quot;&gt;40d Talk:Bar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>Briess: moved Talk:Bar to Talk:40d:Bar:&amp;#32;40d namespace migration</title>
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		<updated>2010-03-08T01:53:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;moved &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Talk:Bar&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Bar (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;Talk:Bar&lt;/a&gt; to [[Talk:40d:Bar]]: 40d namespace migration&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>Albedo at 19:06, 13 October 2009</title>
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		<updated>2009-10-13T19:06:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 19:06, 13 October 2009&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l6&quot; &gt;Line 6:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::I've just extended the page somewhat, mostly mirroring the layout of [[block]]. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 18:12, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::I've just extended the page somewhat, mostly mirroring the layout of [[block]]. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 18:12, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::I'd like to include something on how many bars it takes to make various products (eg a bucket vs a cabinet) ... but as I'm new and don't know that information, could someone else? They don't all take 3 bars, right?[[User:Nemokara|Nemokara]] 08:58, 11 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::I'd like to include something on how many bars it takes to make various products (eg a bucket vs a cabinet) ... but as I'm new and don't know that information, could someone else? They don't all take 3 bars, right?[[User:Nemokara|Nemokara]] 08:58, 11 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::::All [[furniture]] takes 3 bars - which is painful. [[Armour]] varies between 1 bar/2 items (gauntlets) and 3/1 (plate armour).  Goblets (metal [[mug]]s) are 1 bar/3, and some metal crafts depend on the crafting skill and a randomizer.  Most (all?) others take 1 bar only.  I agree it would be handy, but that contributing editor would have to do some quick research to verify 100%, esp w/ some of the other less commonly produced items. (You'd just open a forge's menu, go down the list of options, watching your inventory carefully.)--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 19:06, 13 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Nemokara: /* Own article vs redirect */</title>
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		<updated>2009-10-11T08:58:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Own article vs redirect&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l5&quot; &gt;Line 5:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I personally found it rather confusing that when coal, ash, potash, pearlash, and soap refer to the fact that they come in bars, they redirected to [[metal]], which (rightly) makes absolutely no mention of other materials that come in bars. In other words, a stub article is better than no article at all. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 17:55, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I personally found it rather confusing that when coal, ash, potash, pearlash, and soap refer to the fact that they come in bars, they redirected to [[metal]], which (rightly) makes absolutely no mention of other materials that come in bars. In other words, a stub article is better than no article at all. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 17:55, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::I've just extended the page somewhat, mostly mirroring the layout of [[block]]. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 18:12, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::I've just extended the page somewhat, mostly mirroring the layout of [[block]]. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 18:12, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:::I'd like to include something on how many bars it takes to make various products (eg a bucket vs a cabinet) ... but as I'm new and don't know that information, could someone else? They don't all take 3 bars, right?[[User:Nemokara|Nemokara]] 08:58, 11 October 2009 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Quietust at 18:12, 16 September 2009</title>
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		<updated>2009-09-16T18:12:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l4&quot; &gt;Line 4:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This (now stub) article used to redirect to [[metal]].  Isn't bar:metal like quiver:bolt, something that goes hand in hand.  What does a separate article give that the discussion on metal did not, and more?  A discussion of one is a discussion of them both - same article, neh? For charcoal/coke, a quick line of clarification is sufficient. Is there enough here for its own article? --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 17:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This (now stub) article used to redirect to [[metal]].  Isn't bar:metal like quiver:bolt, something that goes hand in hand.  What does a separate article give that the discussion on metal did not, and more?  A discussion of one is a discussion of them both - same article, neh? For charcoal/coke, a quick line of clarification is sufficient. Is there enough here for its own article? --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 17:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I personally found it rather confusing that when coal, ash, potash, pearlash, and soap refer to the fact that they come in bars, they redirected to [[metal]], which (rightly) makes absolutely no mention of other materials that come in bars. In other words, a stub article is better than no article at all. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 17:55, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I personally found it rather confusing that when coal, ash, potash, pearlash, and soap refer to the fact that they come in bars, they redirected to [[metal]], which (rightly) makes absolutely no mention of other materials that come in bars. In other words, a stub article is better than no article at all. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 17:55, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::I've just extended the page somewhat, mostly mirroring the layout of [[block]]. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 18:12, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Quietust at 17:57, 16 September 2009</title>
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		<updated>2009-09-16T17:57:22Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;  this really deserves its own page&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;  this really deserves its own page&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This (now stub) article used to redirect to [[metal]].  Isn't bar:metal like quiver:bolt, something that goes hand in hand.  What does a separate article give that the discussion on metal did not, and more?  A discussion of one is a discussion of them both - same article, neh? For charcoal/coke, a quick line of clarification is sufficient. Is there enough here for its own article? --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 17:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This (now stub) article used to redirect to [[metal]].  Isn't bar:metal like quiver:bolt, something that goes hand in hand.  What does a separate article give that the discussion on metal did not, and more?  A discussion of one is a discussion of them both - same article, neh? For charcoal/coke, a quick line of clarification is sufficient. Is there enough here for its own article? --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 17:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;*&lt;/del&gt;I personally found it rather confusing that when coal, ash, potash, pearlash, and soap refer to the fact that they come in bars, they redirected to [[metal]], which (rightly) makes absolutely no mention of other materials that come in bars. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 17:55, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;:&lt;/ins&gt;I personally found it rather confusing that when coal, ash, potash, pearlash, and soap refer to the fact that they come in bars, they redirected to [[metal]], which (rightly) makes absolutely no mention of other materials that come in bars&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;. In other words, a stub article is better than no article at all&lt;/ins&gt;. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 17:55, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Quietust</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Bar&amp;diff=50976&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Quietust at 17:55, 16 September 2009</title>
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		<updated>2009-09-16T17:55:45Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 17:55, 16 September 2009&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l3&quot; &gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;  this really deserves its own page&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;  this really deserves its own page&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This (now stub) article used to redirect to [[metal]].  Isn't bar:metal like quiver:bolt, something that goes hand in hand.  What does a separate article give that the discussion on metal did not, and more?  A discussion of one is a discussion of them both - same article, neh? For charcoal/coke, a quick line of clarification is sufficient. Is there enough here for its own article? --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 17:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This (now stub) article used to redirect to [[metal]].  Isn't bar:metal like quiver:bolt, something that goes hand in hand.  What does a separate article give that the discussion on metal did not, and more?  A discussion of one is a discussion of them both - same article, neh? For charcoal/coke, a quick line of clarification is sufficient. Is there enough here for its own article? --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 17:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;*I personally found it rather confusing that when coal, ash, potash, pearlash, and soap refer to the fact that they come in bars, they redirected to [[metal]], which (rightly) makes absolutely no mention of other materials that come in bars. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 17:55, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<author><name>Quietust</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Bar&amp;diff=50975&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Albedo: This has &quot;stub article&quot; written all over it.</title>
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		<updated>2009-09-16T17:52:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;This has &amp;quot;stub article&amp;quot; written all over it.&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 17:52, 16 September 2009&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l2&quot; &gt;Line 2:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 2:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;  this really deserves its own page&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;  this really deserves its own page&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This (now stub) article used to redirect to [[metal]].  Isn't bar:metal like quiver:bolt, something that goes hand in hand.  What does a separate article give that the discussion on metal did not, and more?  A discussion of one is a discussion of them both - same article, neh?--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 17:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;This (now stub) article used to redirect to [[metal]].  Isn't bar:metal like quiver:bolt, something that goes hand in hand.  What does a separate article give that the discussion on metal did not, and more?  A discussion of one is a discussion of them both - same article, neh&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;? For charcoal/coke, a quick line of clarification is sufficient. Is there enough here for its own article&lt;/ins&gt;? --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 17:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Albedo</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=40d_Talk:Bar&amp;diff=50974&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Albedo: Own article vs redirect</title>
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		<updated>2009-09-16T17:50:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Own article vs redirect&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Own article vs redirect ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 this really deserves its own page&lt;br /&gt;
This (now stub) article used to redirect to [[metal]].  Isn't bar:metal like quiver:bolt, something that goes hand in hand.  What does a separate article give that the discussion on metal did not, and more?  A discussion of one is a discussion of them both - same article, neh?--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 17:50, 16 September 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Albedo</name></author>
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