Flour - Revision history

GeloMor: Probably outdated since meals nerf

2025-03-06T12:42:06Z

Probably outdated since meals nerf

GeloMor at 12:25, 6 March 2025

2025-03-06T12:25:13Z

GeloMor at 12:22, 6 March 2025

2025-03-06T12:22:13Z

GeloMor at 01:09, 8 January 2025

2025-01-08T01:09:30Z

Moradin: /* Value */

2024-07-06T08:04:25Z

Value

95.220.71.7: /* Flour Varieties */ also sugar

2024-03-23T11:30:38Z

Flour Varieties: also sugar

Zippy: Added image.

2024-01-19T05:39:31Z

Added image.

89.20.133.78: /* Flour Varieties */ mention other unusual plants

2023-10-04T18:31:19Z

Flour Varieties: mention other unusual plants

CaptainMaybe at 20:19, 19 July 2023

2023-07-19T20:19:43Z

69.224.227.109: Based on the raws, crop values for all of these except whip vine are 2

2023-03-06T17:15:45Z

Based on the raws, crop values for all of these except whip vine are 2

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 == Value ==
 Flour will be used in the [[kitchen]] when 'prepare meal' tasks are queued if it is enabled in the [[Labor#Kitchen|Kitchen tab]] in the Labor menu {{menu icon|y}}. Flour is more valuable than a raw mill-able [[crop]], meaning prepared meals made with flour will have a higher value. Bags and barrels of flour are often quite [[Item value|valuable]] and suitable for export or import with [[caravan]]s; a single barrel of flour can easily be worth more than 200☼. Typically, a stack of 2 plants will be ground to produce a single bag with 2 flour and 2 seeds.
 == Flour Varieties ==

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 [[File:flour_preview.png|right]]'''Flour''' is an ingredient in [[cooking]], made by [[milling]] one of the many available [[Crops|grains]] at a [[millstone]] or [[quern]]. Milling involves grinding the grains beneath the wheel, rendering it from an inedible plant to an edible [[powder]] suitable for cooking. Milling plants needs one [[bag]] for every job, and one plant will be processed to make one bag of flour. Flour in [[bag]]s or [[barrel|mill barrels]] does not [[Wear|wither]] like crops, and possesses an indefinite shelf-life if kept free of [[vermin]]. It is also a very efficient use of space, since a single barrel can store up to ten bags of flour. Given these attributes, flour serves as an excellent foodstuff. A relatively small [[stockpile]] can sustain a number of dwarves during a [[siege]] or the first few months of a new outpost.
-Flour that is stored in a bag is not recognized by the [[Manager|manager's]] work order conditions, unless it's given the trait 'cookable'. If the trait is not added to the item specification, the item count will always be handled as if it was 0 (meaning that all comparisons <X will be true, resulting in unlimited production). Example: If you want your Kaniwa flour stockpile to be 50 at all times, you need to add the following conditions to the work order: [[File:Button new condition.png]] add item condition, [[File:Button condition type.png]] item type "Powder", [[File:Button condition material.png]] material "Kaniwa flour", [[File:Button condition adjective.png]] adjective "Cookable items", [[File:Button input number.png]] number 50.
+Flour that is stored in a bag is not recognized by the [[Manager|manager's]] work order conditions, unless it's given the adjective 'cookable'. If the adjective is not added to the item specification, the item count will always be handled as if it was 0 (meaning that all comparisons <X will be true, resulting in unlimited production). Example: If you want your Kaniwa flour stockpile to be 50 at all times, you need to add the following conditions to the work order: [[File:Button new condition.png]] add item condition, [[File:Button condition type.png]] item type "Powder", [[File:Button condition material.png]] material "Kaniwa flour", [[File:Button condition adjective.png]] adjective "Cookable items", [[File:Button input number.png]] number 50.
 == Value ==

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 [[File:flour_preview.png|right]]'''Flour''' is an ingredient in [[cooking]], made by [[milling]] one of the many available [[Crops|grains]] at a [[millstone]] or [[quern]]. Milling involves grinding the grains beneath the wheel, rendering it from an inedible plant to an edible [[powder]] suitable for cooking. Milling plants needs one [[bag]] for every job, and one plant will be processed to make one bag of flour. Flour in [[bag]]s or [[barrel|mill barrels]] does not [[Wear|wither]] like crops, and possesses an indefinite shelf-life if kept free of [[vermin]]. It is also a very efficient use of space, since a single barrel can store up to ten bags of flour. Given these attributes, flour serves as an excellent foodstuff. A relatively small [[stockpile]] can sustain a number of dwarves during a [[siege]] or the first few months of a new outpost.
-Flour that is stored in a bag is not recognized by the [[Manager|manager's]] work order conditions, unless it's given the trait 'cookable'. If the trait is not added to the item specification, the item count will always be handled as if it was 0 (meaning that all comparisons <X will be true, resulting in unlimited production). Example: If you want your Kaniwa flour stockpile to be 50 at all times, you need to add the following conditions to the work order: [a]dd item condition, [i]tem type powder, [m]aterial Kaniwa flour, [t]rait cookable, [n]umber 50.
+Flour that is stored in a bag is not recognized by the [[Manager|manager's]] work order conditions, unless it's given the trait 'cookable'. If the trait is not added to the item specification, the item count will always be handled as if it was 0 (meaning that all comparisons <X will be true, resulting in unlimited production). Example: If you want your Kaniwa flour stockpile to be 50 at all times, you need to add the following conditions to the work order: [[File:Button new condition.png]] add item condition, [[File:Button condition type.png]] item type "Powder", [[File:Button condition material.png]] material "Kaniwa flour", [[File:Button condition adjective.png]] adjective "Cookable items", [[File:Button input number.png]] number 50.
 == Value ==
 Flour will be used in the [[kitchen]] when 'prepare meal' tasks are queued if it is enabled in the [[Labor#Kitchen|Kitchen tab]] in the Labor menu {{menu icon|y}}. Flour is more valuable than a raw mill-able [[crop]], meaning prepared meals made with flour will have a higher value. Bags and barrels of flour are often quite [[Item value|valuable]] and suitable for export or import with [[caravan]]s; a single barrel of flour can easily be worth more than 200☼. Typically, a stack of 2 plants will be ground to produce a single bag with 2 flour and 2 seeds.
+===The Flour Economy===
 Since meals have a quality modifier, they can be ''very'' valuable; a skilled [[cook]] can consistently produce masterwork meals. Combine this with the higher value of flour as an ingredient, and you have a recipe for financial success. Literally.

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	== Value ==		== Value ==
−	Flour will be used in the [[kitchen]] when 'prepare meal' tasks are queued if it is enabled in the [[~~Status~~#~~Kitchen_Status_Screen~~\|Kitchen tab]] in the ~~Status screen~~. Flour is more valuable than a raw mill-able [[crop]], meaning prepared meals made with flour will have a higher value. Bags and barrels of flour are often quite [[Item value\|valuable]] and suitable for export or import with [[caravan]]s; a single barrel of flour can easily be worth more than 200☼. Typically, a stack of 2 plants will be ground to produce a single bag with 2 flour and 2 seeds.	+	Flour will be used in the [[kitchen]] when 'prepare meal' tasks are queued if it is enabled in the [[Labor#Kitchen\|Kitchen tab]] in the Labor menu {{menu icon\|y}}. Flour is more valuable than a raw mill-able [[crop]], meaning prepared meals made with flour will have a higher value. Bags and barrels of flour are often quite [[Item value\|valuable]] and suitable for export or import with [[caravan]]s; a single barrel of flour can easily be worth more than 200☼. Typically, a stack of 2 plants will be ground to produce a single bag with 2 flour and 2 seeds.

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 ''The Flour Economy''
-Since meals have a quality modifier, they can be ''very'' valuable; a skilled [[cook]] can consistently produce masterwork meals. Combine this will the higher value of flour as an ingredient, and you have a recipe for financial success. Literally.
+Since meals have a quality modifier, they can be ''very'' valuable; a skilled [[cook]] can consistently produce masterwork meals. Combine this with the higher value of flour as an ingredient, and you have a recipe for financial success. Literally.
 If you end up selling flour-based meals for trade, just make sure not to interrupt your own food supply. It's important to keep enough flour/dwarven wheat around for food and alcohol for your own people.

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	[[Flax]] and [[hemp]] are unique among flour-producing plants in that they also produce [[plant fiber]]; that is, it is possible to make both the flour and the containers that hold it from one plant. Their [[seed]]s can also be used to produce [[oil]]. Most of the other listed plants can be brewed into [[alcohol]] instead and are functionally about the same. [[Blood amaranth]] and [[purple amaranth]] deserve special mention since they also grow edible [[leaves]]. [[Whip vine]] flour is more expensive than others, and [[oats]] are inferior to other choices as they cannot be brewed.		[[Flax]] and [[hemp]] are unique among flour-producing plants in that they also produce [[plant fiber]]; that is, it is possible to make both the flour and the containers that hold it from one plant. Their [[seed]]s can also be used to produce [[oil]]. Most of the other listed plants can be brewed into [[alcohol]] instead and are functionally about the same. [[Blood amaranth]] and [[purple amaranth]] deserve special mention since they also grow edible [[leaves]]. [[Whip vine]] flour is more expensive than others, and [[oats]] are inferior to other choices as they cannot be brewed.
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		+	[[Dwarven sugar]], milled from [[sweet pod]]s, is also mechanically similar to flour, except it's (notionally{{verify\|dwarves can't eat raw powder, right?}}) edible raw.

	== Associated Technology ==		== Associated Technology ==

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 {{Quality|Superior|03:00, 22 February 2023 (CST)}}
 {{av}}
-[[Image:cave-wheat-flour.jpg|thumb|right|A [[jute]] [[bag]] filled with flour.]]
+[[File:flour_preview.png|right]]'''Flour''' is an ingredient in [[cooking]], made by [[milling]] one of the many available [[Crops|grains]] at a [[millstone]] or [[quern]]. Milling involves grinding the grains beneath the wheel, rendering it from an inedible plant to an edible [[powder]] suitable for cooking. Milling plants needs one [[bag]] for every job, and one plant will be processed to make one bag of flour. Flour in [[bag]]s or [[barrel|mill barrels]] does not [[Wear|wither]] like crops, and possesses an indefinite shelf-life if kept free of [[vermin]]. It is also a very efficient use of space, since a single barrel can store up to ten bags of flour. Given these attributes, flour serves as an excellent foodstuff. A relatively small [[stockpile]] can sustain a number of dwarves during a [[siege]] or the first few months of a new outpost.
 Flour that is stored in a bag is not recognized by the [[Manager|manager's]] work order conditions, unless it's given the trait 'cookable'. If the trait is not added to the item specification, the item count will always be handled as if it was 0 (meaning that all comparisons <X will be true, resulting in unlimited production). Example: If you want your Kaniwa flour stockpile to be 50 at all times, you need to add the following conditions to the work order: [a]dd item condition, [i]tem type powder, [m]aterial Kaniwa flour, [t]rait cookable, [n]umber 50.
 == Value ==
 Flour will be used in the [[kitchen]] when 'prepare meal' tasks are queued if it is enabled in the [[Status#Kitchen_Status_Screen|Kitchen tab]] in the Status screen. Flour is more valuable than a raw mill-able [[crop]], meaning prepared meals made with flour will have a higher value. Bags and barrels of flour are often quite [[Item value|valuable]] and suitable for export or import with [[caravan]]s; a single barrel of flour can easily be worth more than 200☼. Typically, a stack of 2 plants will be ground to produce a single bag with 2 flour and 2 seeds.
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 == Associated Technology ==
 {{D for dwarf}}
 Dwarven science continues to research improvements in the milling process. Dwarven histories give many examples of new and innovative [[Artifact|quern and millstone designs]], few of which are reproducible on an industrial scale, as well as [[Stupid dwarf trick|elaborate mechanical schemes]]. Scholardwarves continue to predict that the next major advance in flour technology will be a new, advanced foodstuff known as "bread" – some sort of solid beer – but they have been promising to produce this miracle substance for years and have not yet shown any progress.
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 Also, on the topic of humans, some may be seen expressing joy over minced flour meals, apparently believing it to be another form of solid alcohol.
+[[Image:cave-wheat-flour.jpg|thumb|360px|center|A [[jute]] [[bag]] filled with flour.]]
 {{materials}}
 {{Category|Food}}
 [[ru:Flour]]

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-[[Flax]] and [[hemp]] are unique among flour-producing plants in that they also produce [[plant fiber]]; that is, it is possible to make both the flour and the containers that hold it from one plant.
+[[Flax]] and [[hemp]] are unique among flour-producing plants in that they also produce [[plant fiber]]; that is, it is possible to make both the flour and the containers that hold it from one plant.  Their [[seed]]s can also be used to produce [[oil]].  Most of the other listed plants can be brewed into [[alcohol]] instead and are functionally about the same.  [[Blood amaranth]] and [[purple amaranth]] deserve special mention since they also grow edible [[leaves]].  [[Whip vine]] flour is more expensive than others, and [[oats]] are inferior to other choices as they cannot be brewed.
 == Associated Technology ==

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 ! Flour
 ! Flour value
-{{flour table row|name=Cave wheat|tile=τ|colour=7:0|cprice=4|fname=Dwarven wheat flour}}
+{{flour table row|name=Cave wheat|tile=τ|colour=7:0|fname=Dwarven wheat flour}}
-{{flour table row|name=Longland grass|tile=τ|colour=6:1|cprice=4|fname=Longland flour}}
+{{flour table row|name=Longland grass|tile=τ|colour=6:1|fname=Longland flour}}
 {{flour table row|name=Whip vine|tile=§|colour=3:1|cprice=1|fprice=25}}
 {{flour table row|name=Single-grain wheat|tile=t|colour=2:0}}