User talk:VengefulDonut - Revision history

Lethosor: /* Re: Underpopulated categories */ new section

2014-11-08T21:19:33Z

Re: Underpopulated categories: new section

98.207.234.98: /* Please may I have... */ new section

2012-12-12T18:57:24Z

Please may I have...: new section

Quietust: {{Game Data}} -> {{gamedata}}

2010-05-24T17:04:42Z

{{Game Data}} -> {{gamedata}}

Draco18s: /* DF2010:Quality */

2010-05-22T17:36:25Z

DF2010:Quality

Draco18s: /* DF2010:Quality */

2010-05-22T04:10:21Z

DF2010:Quality

74.103.148.193 at 23:18, 11 May 2010

2010-05-11T23:18:24Z

Mason11987: /* Philosophy */ new section

2010-05-10T17:13:10Z

Philosophy: new section

VengefulDonut: /* Stones, gems, and /raw */

2010-05-07T05:58:06Z

Stones, gems, and /raw

Quietust: /* Stones, gems, and /raw */ new section

2010-05-07T04:42:24Z

Stones, gems, and /raw: new section

Mason11987: /* RAWs */ sig

2010-05-05T14:44:10Z

RAWs: sig

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	I'm not sure if anyone else agrees, but I'd even be ok with a youtube link. --[[User:Teres Draconis\|jaz]] 18:57, 12 December 2012 (UTC)		I'm not sure if anyone else agrees, but I'd even be ok with a youtube link. --[[User:Teres Draconis\|jaz]] 18:57, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
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		+	== Re: Underpopulated categories ==
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		+	I forgot about your [[User_talk:Lethosor#Underpopulated_categories\|message]] on my talk page, but the problems with categories should be fixed now (thanks to [[User:Emi\|Emi]]). —[[User:Lethosor\|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor\|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 21:19, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

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	:I guess the {{verify}} tag is pointless then. Alright then I guess I'll just shut the fuck up and not bother helping out anymore, because clearly, I'm not wanted.--[[User:Draco18s\|Draco18s]] 04:10, 22 May 2010 (UTC)		:I guess the {{verify}} tag is pointless then. Alright then I guess I'll just shut the fuck up and not bother helping out anymore, because clearly, I'm not wanted.--[[User:Draco18s\|Draco18s]] 04:10, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
	::"...a blank page was more beneficial to the end user..." As an "end user" a blank page is ''never'' beneficial. As an "end user" I would rather have duplicated, mostly correct, information than have to navigate an additional link. I apologize for '''being bold''' and trying to help.--[[User:Draco18s\|Draco18s]] 17:36, 22 May 2010 (UTC)		::"...a blank page was more beneficial to the end user..." As an "end user" a blank page is ''never'' beneficial. As an "end user" I would rather have duplicated, mostly correct, information than have to navigate an additional link. I apologize for '''being bold''' and trying to help.--[[User:Draco18s\|Draco18s]] 17:36, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
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		+	== Please may I have... ==
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		+	A copy or working link to part 5 of your video series on ripping through multi-layer aquifers? I can figure it out, since you did show the upper levels in later parts, but I'd like to see the complete set at least once.
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		+	I'm not sure if anyone else agrees, but I'd even be ok with a youtube link. --[[User:Teres Draconis\|jaz]] 18:57, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

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 == Template:Raw ==
-I've just adapted {{tl|Game Data}} to attempt to fetch creature raws from "raws" pages similar to the stone/gem templates (except using an extra pair of templates to transform the page name into a CREATURE id and the name of the file that contains the raws, though the former could probably be skipped by just matching against "[NAME:'''foo''':bar:baz]") - it works, but {{tl|raw}} strips out all of the linebreaks and spaces between tokens. How hard would it be to make a version of {{tl|raw}} (or add a parameter) that doesn't do that? --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 18:11, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
+I've just adapted {{tl|gamedata}} to attempt to fetch creature raws from "raws" pages similar to the stone/gem templates (except using an extra pair of templates to transform the page name into a CREATURE id and the name of the file that contains the raws, though the former could probably be skipped by just matching against "[NAME:'''foo''':bar:baz]") - it works, but {{tl|raw}} strips out all of the linebreaks and spaces between tokens. How hard would it be to make a version of {{tl|raw}} (or add a parameter) that doesn't do that? --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 18:11, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
-:Never mind, figured it out myself and saved it as {{tl|raw2}}. Of course, now the trick will be to make it so {{tl|Game Data}} supports raw lookups for things other than creatures (possibly by simply giving it a "type" parameter - CREATURE, MATGLOSS, INORGANIC, PLANT, etc.)... --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 18:29, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
+:Never mind, figured it out myself and saved it as {{tl|raw2}}. Of course, now the trick will be to make it so {{tl|gamedata}} supports raw lookups for things other than creatures (possibly by simply giving it a "type" parameter - CREATURE, MATGLOSS, INORGANIC, PLANT, etc.)... --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 18:29, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 ::It already has a type parameter Oo [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 23:16, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
-:::I was referring to {{tl|Game Data}} (which I've currently hardcoded to CREATURE because it doesn't take any parameters), not {{tl|Raw}}. I'll probably just split it into several different templates and have the various infobox templates include the appropriate one. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 23:29, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
+:::I was referring to {{tl|gamedata}} (which I've currently hardcoded to CREATURE because it doesn't take any parameters), not {{tl|Raw}}. I'll probably just split it into several different templates and have the various infobox templates include the appropriate one. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 23:29, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
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	I don't believe the revert was justified, as I went through all the content I copied, commented out stuff I was very sure was wrong, but had a possibility of being right, put {{verify}} tags on things that were likely correct, but had a possibility of being wrong (I think I put in four, admittedly one of which was on the value modifier for Masterwork items because it was higher than the known stated value (what little you left behind) for artifacts), and removed things that I was sure were no longer relevant. I turned a blank page into an actual, decent, article.--[[Special:Contributions/74.103.148.193\|74.103.148.193]] 23:18, 11 May 2010 (UTC)		I don't believe the revert was justified, as I went through all the content I copied, commented out stuff I was very sure was wrong, but had a possibility of being right, put {{verify}} tags on things that were likely correct, but had a possibility of being wrong (I think I put in four, admittedly one of which was on the value modifier for Masterwork items because it was higher than the known stated value (what little you left behind) for artifacts), and removed things that I was sure were no longer relevant. I turned a blank page into an actual, decent, article.--[[Special:Contributions/74.103.148.193\|74.103.148.193]] 23:18, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
	:I guess the {{verify}} tag is pointless then. Alright then I guess I'll just shut the fuck up and not bother helping out anymore, because clearly, I'm not wanted.--[[User:Draco18s\|Draco18s]] 04:10, 22 May 2010 (UTC)		:I guess the {{verify}} tag is pointless then. Alright then I guess I'll just shut the fuck up and not bother helping out anymore, because clearly, I'm not wanted.--[[User:Draco18s\|Draco18s]] 04:10, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
		+	::"...a blank page was more beneficial to the end user..." As an "end user" a blank page is ''never'' beneficial. As an "end user" I would rather have duplicated, mostly correct, information than have to navigate an additional link. I apologize for '''being bold''' and trying to help.--[[User:Draco18s\|Draco18s]] 17:36, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

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	== DF2010:Quality ==		== DF2010:Quality ==
	I don't believe the revert was justified, as I went through all the content I copied, commented out stuff I was very sure was wrong, but had a possibility of being right, put {{verify}} tags on things that were likely correct, but had a possibility of being wrong (I think I put in four, admittedly one of which was on the value modifier for Masterwork items because it was higher than the known stated value (what little you left behind) for artifacts), and removed things that I was sure were no longer relevant. I turned a blank page into an actual, decent, article.--[[Special:Contributions/74.103.148.193\|74.103.148.193]] 23:18, 11 May 2010 (UTC)		I don't believe the revert was justified, as I went through all the content I copied, commented out stuff I was very sure was wrong, but had a possibility of being right, put {{verify}} tags on things that were likely correct, but had a possibility of being wrong (I think I put in four, admittedly one of which was on the value modifier for Masterwork items because it was higher than the known stated value (what little you left behind) for artifacts), and removed things that I was sure were no longer relevant. I turned a blank page into an actual, decent, article.--[[Special:Contributions/74.103.148.193\|74.103.148.193]] 23:18, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
		+	:I guess the {{verify}} tag is pointless then. Alright then I guess I'll just shut the fuck up and not bother helping out anymore, because clearly, I'm not wanted.--[[User:Draco18s\|Draco18s]] 04:10, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

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	I don't get exactly what this is all about. I guess you disapprove with how I handled the "quality" stuff. But I think I did exactly what you said I should do, which is "disregard the lot and do what you think is correct". It seems in this case that you were "the lot", but I assume even in those cases you'd still offer the same advice. [[User:Mason11987\|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987\|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987\|C]])</sup> 17:13, 10 May 2010 (UTC)		I don't get exactly what this is all about. I guess you disapprove with how I handled the "quality" stuff. But I think I did exactly what you said I should do, which is "disregard the lot and do what you think is correct". It seems in this case that you were "the lot", but I assume even in those cases you'd still offer the same advice. [[User:Mason11987\|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987\|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987\|C]])</sup> 17:13, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
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		+	== DF2010:Quality ==
		+	I don't believe the revert was justified, as I went through all the content I copied, commented out stuff I was very sure was wrong, but had a possibility of being right, put {{verify}} tags on things that were likely correct, but had a possibility of being wrong (I think I put in four, admittedly one of which was on the value modifier for Masterwork items because it was higher than the known stated value (what little you left behind) for artifacts), and removed things that I was sure were no longer relevant. I turned a blank page into an actual, decent, article.--[[Special:Contributions/74.103.148.193\|74.103.148.193]] 23:18, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

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	:It would not be a difficult change. [[User:VengefulDonut\|VengefulDonut]] 05:58, 7 May 2010 (UTC)		:It would not be a difficult change. [[User:VengefulDonut\|VengefulDonut]] 05:58, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
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		+	== Philosophy ==
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		+	I don't get exactly what this is all about. I guess you disapprove with how I handled the "quality" stuff. But I think I did exactly what you said I should do, which is "disregard the lot and do what you think is correct". It seems in this case that you were "the lot", but I assume even in those cases you'd still offer the same advice. [[User:Mason11987\|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987\|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987\|C]])</sup> 17:13, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

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	In the process of creating all of the templates to handle the various /raw pages, I included the ones necessary for stones, gems, and metals. How much work would it be for you to change your stonelookup/layerlookup/gemlookup templates to read their data directly from the corresponding /raw page instead of fetching it directly from the corresponding inorganic.txt file? I haven't created said /raw pages yet, but it'd be trivial to do so. --[[User:Quietust\|Quietust]] 04:42, 7 May 2010 (UTC)		In the process of creating all of the templates to handle the various /raw pages, I included the ones necessary for stones, gems, and metals. How much work would it be for you to change your stonelookup/layerlookup/gemlookup templates to read their data directly from the corresponding /raw page instead of fetching it directly from the corresponding inorganic.txt file? I haven't created said /raw pages yet, but it'd be trivial to do so. --[[User:Quietust\|Quietust]] 04:42, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
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		+	:It would not be a difficult change. [[User:VengefulDonut\|VengefulDonut]] 05:58, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

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	:I am. [[User:Mason11987\|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987\|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987\|C]])</sup> 14:41, 5 May 2010 (UTC)		:I am. [[User:Mason11987\|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987\|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987\|C]])</sup> 14:41, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
	::I'm a little OCD about that sort of stuff, and if you looked at the RC you probably saw my ongoing attempt to organize things, I saw those pages and just ignored them because I didn't want to break things :). But if that can happen that'd be great. Thanks! [[User:Mason11987\|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987\|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987\|C]])</sup> 14:44, 5 May 2010 (UTC)		::I'm a little OCD about that sort of stuff, and if you looked at the RC you probably saw my ongoing attempt to organize things, I saw those pages and just ignored them because I didn't want to break things :). But if that can happen that'd be great. Thanks! [[User:Mason11987\|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987\|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987\|C]])</sup> 14:44, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
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		+	== Stones, gems, and /raw ==
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		+	In the process of creating all of the templates to handle the various /raw pages, I included the ones necessary for stones, gems, and metals. How much work would it be for you to change your stonelookup/layerlookup/gemlookup templates to read their data directly from the corresponding /raw page instead of fetching it directly from the corresponding inorganic.txt file? I haven't created said /raw pages yet, but it'd be trivial to do so. --[[User:Quietust\|Quietust]] 04:42, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

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 Is there any way we can categorize the RAW files?  Perhaps by having a <nowiki><noinclude>{{category|Raws}}</noinclude></nowiki> at the bottom?  Or would that break your system? [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]])</sup> 14:39, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 :I am. [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]])</sup> 14:41, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
-::I'm a little OCD about that sort of stuff, and if you looked at the RC you probably saw my ongoing attempt to organize things, I saw those pages and just ignored them because I didn't want to break things :).  But if that can happen that'd be great. Thanks!
+::I'm a little OCD about that sort of stuff, and if you looked at the RC you probably saw my ongoing attempt to organize things, I saw those pages and just ignored them because I didn't want to break things :).  But if that can happen that'd be great. Thanks! [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]])</sup> 14:44, 5 May 2010 (UTC)