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If you're looking for more ways to <s>die horribly</s> test yourself, try either the {{l|mega construction}} or the {{l|Challenges}} articles.
 
If you're looking for more ways to <s>die horribly</s> test yourself, try either the {{l|mega construction}} or the {{l|Challenges}} articles.
  
== Autopsy ==
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== Autopsy, or why your fortress died ==
  
 
Various common things can cause the death of a fortress. Let's examine some together...
 
Various common things can cause the death of a fortress. Let's examine some together...
  
===Local Wildlife===
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===Dwarf vs. Nature===
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Sometimes the wilds take you out.
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====Local Wildlife====
 
Goblins aren't the only creatures that want you dead.  The obvious threats aside, some {{L|creature}}s with benign names or descriptions can be surprisingly deadly. A sudden wildlife attack can quickly cripple or destroy an unprepared fortress.  Before you unpause a new game for the first time, hit {{k|u}}nits, and scroll down to see what's sharing your map.  Learn to do this regularly - new creatures will frequently migrate onto your map and then off again to be replaced by others.
 
Goblins aren't the only creatures that want you dead.  The obvious threats aside, some {{L|creature}}s with benign names or descriptions can be surprisingly deadly. A sudden wildlife attack can quickly cripple or destroy an unprepared fortress.  Before you unpause a new game for the first time, hit {{k|u}}nits, and scroll down to see what's sharing your map.  Learn to do this regularly - new creatures will frequently migrate onto your map and then off again to be replaced by others.
  
 
Consider arming up and thinning out any predictable threats.
 
Consider arming up and thinning out any predictable threats.
  
===Underground Life===
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====Underground Life====
 
Underground life can be even more dangerous than surface life. Dig through a cavern, and expect hordes of animalmen and other cave creatures to invade your fortress. Unlike wildlife, these creatures never migrate off. Arming up helps a lot, as there really is only a small entrance they can get in by.
 
Underground life can be even more dangerous than surface life. Dig through a cavern, and expect hordes of animalmen and other cave creatures to invade your fortress. Unlike wildlife, these creatures never migrate off. Arming up helps a lot, as there really is only a small entrance they can get in by.
  
===No Food===
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===Dwarf vs. hirself===
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Sometimes you bring it on yourself.
  
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====No Food====
 
A serious danger, generally in the more inhospitable {{L|climate}}s, is the loss of your {{L|dwarf|dwarves}} due to starvation.  As dwarves begin to starve, they will become {{L|hungry}}, then {{L|starving}}.  This will cause them first to slow down all work, and then to become very {{L|unhappy}}.  When they die, their friends will become upset and will become even more unhappy, potentially causing the remainder of your fortress to break out in a {{L|tantrum spiral|terminal hissy fit}}.
 
A serious danger, generally in the more inhospitable {{L|climate}}s, is the loss of your {{L|dwarf|dwarves}} due to starvation.  As dwarves begin to starve, they will become {{L|hungry}}, then {{L|starving}}.  This will cause them first to slow down all work, and then to become very {{L|unhappy}}.  When they die, their friends will become upset and will become even more unhappy, potentially causing the remainder of your fortress to break out in a {{L|tantrum spiral|terminal hissy fit}}.
  
 
Don't forget your alternative sources of {{L|food}}.  If your {{L|farm}}s aren't doing the job and a {{L|caravan|trade caravan}} is months away, try {{L|butchering}} your {{L|domestic animal}}s, {{L|plant gathering|gathering plants}}, or resorting to {{L|hunting}} of local wildlife.
 
Don't forget your alternative sources of {{L|food}}.  If your {{L|farm}}s aren't doing the job and a {{L|caravan|trade caravan}} is months away, try {{L|butchering}} your {{L|domestic animal}}s, {{L|plant gathering|gathering plants}}, or resorting to {{L|hunting}} of local wildlife.
  
===No Booze===
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====No Booze====
 
Equally as bad is no {{L|alcohol}}, which dwarves ''require'' to be happy and productive. Some alcohol can be acquired from {{L|caravan}}s, but not enough for an entire fort until the next caravan arrives. You must {{L|farm}} plants to then {{L|brew}} those in a {{L|still}} with an empty {{L|barrel}} - it's just part of being a dwarf.
 
Equally as bad is no {{L|alcohol}}, which dwarves ''require'' to be happy and productive. Some alcohol can be acquired from {{L|caravan}}s, but not enough for an entire fort until the next caravan arrives. You must {{L|farm}} plants to then {{L|brew}} those in a {{L|still}} with an empty {{L|barrel}} - it's just part of being a dwarf.
  
===No water===
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====Water====
 
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=====No water=====
 
Healthy dwarves will not die of thirst as long as they have alcohol, which in the current version can be {{L|Brewing|brewed}} without the use of water.  However, injured dwarves must be given water, not alcohol, or they will die of dehydration.
 
Healthy dwarves will not die of thirst as long as they have alcohol, which in the current version can be {{L|Brewing|brewed}} without the use of water.  However, injured dwarves must be given water, not alcohol, or they will die of dehydration.
  
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If all else fails, the {{L|caverns}} are bound to contain water somewhere, so you can put down a {{L|well}}. Watch out for {{L|Giant toad|other}} [[:Category:DF2010:Humanoids|sources]] {{L|Cave crocodile|of fun.}}
 
If all else fails, the {{L|caverns}} are bound to contain water somewhere, so you can put down a {{L|well}}. Watch out for {{L|Giant toad|other}} [[:Category:DF2010:Humanoids|sources]] {{L|Cave crocodile|of fun.}}
  
===Flooding accidents (aka "too much water")===
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=====Too Much Water (aka "Flooding accidents")=====
 
 
 
The opposite side of the dehydration spectrum is having too ''much'' water.  Remember that water can {{L|flow}} in 10 directions (the 8 horizontal ones as well as up and down, to the level of its source.)  
 
The opposite side of the dehydration spectrum is having too ''much'' water.  Remember that water can {{L|flow}} in 10 directions (the 8 horizontal ones as well as up and down, to the level of its source.)  
  
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Sometimes, a fortress is flooded with {{L|magma}}.  This is even more {{L|fun}}, and even harder to recover from.  Any shut door will stop magma, it doesn't rise as aggressively (via {{L|pressure}}) as water, and magma can be {{L|pump}}ed out with the right equipment. Read up on it. Good luck.
 
Sometimes, a fortress is flooded with {{L|magma}}.  This is even more {{L|fun}}, and even harder to recover from.  Any shut door will stop magma, it doesn't rise as aggressively (via {{L|pressure}}) as water, and magma can be {{L|pump}}ed out with the right equipment. Read up on it. Good luck.
  
=== Inability to mine (aka "no picks") ===
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==== Inability to mine ("Digger Mortis") ====
 
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aka no {{L|pick}}s.
aka Diggor Mortis.
 
  
 
Diggor Mortis: ''when a Dorf with a pickaxe decides that digging where they shouldn't is a bloody good idea.''
 
Diggor Mortis: ''when a Dorf with a pickaxe decides that digging where they shouldn't is a bloody good idea.''
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See also: {{L|Make your own weapons}}
 
See also: {{L|Make your own weapons}}
  
===General Unhappiness===
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===Dwarf vs Society?===
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Sometimes your traditions and mores conspire. Hell Is Other Dwarves?
  
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====General Unhappiness====
 
Think it's no big deal to leave your dwarves with a mediocre {{L|dining room}}, no-{{L|quality}} bed and a generally inadequate fortress?
 
Think it's no big deal to leave your dwarves with a mediocre {{L|dining room}}, no-{{L|quality}} bed and a generally inadequate fortress?
  
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Another problem is if you don't have a justice system in place at the time of a spiral and manage to recover. If you later implement the justice system, the hammer may kill the former tantrum throwers, starting another tantrum because of their deaths.
 
Another problem is if you don't have a justice system in place at the time of a spiral and manage to recover. If you later implement the justice system, the hammer may kill the former tantrum throwers, starting another tantrum because of their deaths.
  
===Ambush===
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===Dwarf vs Dwarves, Orcs, Goblins, Humans...===
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It's not paranoia if they ARE out to get you.
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====Ambush====
 
Goblin and elven ambushes alike will charge into your fortress after they are discovered. They still retreat after suffering enough casualties. Goblins still arrive with caravans, and elves can attack at any time. Even if your dwarves do not venture onto the surface, caravans will eventually trigger the ambushes.  
 
Goblin and elven ambushes alike will charge into your fortress after they are discovered. They still retreat after suffering enough casualties. Goblins still arrive with caravans, and elves can attack at any time. Even if your dwarves do not venture onto the surface, caravans will eventually trigger the ambushes.  
 
   
 
   
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:* {{L|Military design}}
 
:* {{L|Military design}}
  
===War===
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====War====
(as above)
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See [[#Ambush]].
  
===Siege===
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====Siege====
 
{{L|Siege}}s can be quite devastating to a fortress, but unlike most of the other ways of losing they are unlikely to occur early on, even if you do something stupid to piss off another civilization.
 
{{L|Siege}}s can be quite devastating to a fortress, but unlike most of the other ways of losing they are unlikely to occur early on, even if you do something stupid to piss off another civilization.
  
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In short, the attacking army can simply wait until your dwarves emo themselves to death.
 
In short, the attacking army can simply wait until your dwarves emo themselves to death.
  
===HFS===
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====HFS====
 
''(Hidden Fun Stuff)''
 
''(Hidden Fun Stuff)''
  
  
If you don't want {{L|Hidden Fun Stuff|spoilers}}, trust us: you'll ''know'' when you've found it.
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If you don't want {{L|Hidden Fun Stuff|spoilers}}, trust us: you'll ''know'' when you've found it. It's a great deal of [[Fun]].  
  
 
{{Category|Guides}}
 
{{Category|Guides}}

Revision as of 18:16, 18 June 2010

This article is about an older version of DF.

Losing is fun!

Either way, it keeps you busy.

There is no internal end point or single goal or final Easter egg or "You Win!" announcement in Dwarf Fortress. Therefore, eventually, almost every fortress will fall. The only ones that don't, tend to be very conservative and very boring - and what fun is that? Therefore, fun = losing, losing = fun, DF = losing = fun, and that's okay! It's a game philosophy, so embrace it, own it, and have fun with it!

Most new players will lose their first few forts earlier than later; if when you lose a Template:L, don't feel like you don't understand the game. Dwarf Fortress has a steep learning curve, and part of the process (and fun!) is discovering things for yourself. However, this Wiki serves as an excellent place to speed up the learning process.

If you lose, you can always Template:L or go visit it in Template:L.

If you're looking for more ways to die horribly test yourself, try either the Template:L or the Template:L articles.

Autopsy, or why your fortress died

Various common things can cause the death of a fortress. Let's examine some together...

Dwarf vs. Nature

Sometimes the wilds take you out.

Local Wildlife

Goblins aren't the only creatures that want you dead. The obvious threats aside, some Template:Ls with benign names or descriptions can be surprisingly deadly. A sudden wildlife attack can quickly cripple or destroy an unprepared fortress. Before you unpause a new game for the first time, hit units, and scroll down to see what's sharing your map. Learn to do this regularly - new creatures will frequently migrate onto your map and then off again to be replaced by others.

Consider arming up and thinning out any predictable threats.

Underground Life

Underground life can be even more dangerous than surface life. Dig through a cavern, and expect hordes of animalmen and other cave creatures to invade your fortress. Unlike wildlife, these creatures never migrate off. Arming up helps a lot, as there really is only a small entrance they can get in by.

Dwarf vs. hirself

Sometimes you bring it on yourself.

No Food

A serious danger, generally in the more inhospitable Template:Ls, is the loss of your Template:L due to starvation. As dwarves begin to starve, they will become Template:L, then Template:L. This will cause them first to slow down all work, and then to become very Template:L. When they die, their friends will become upset and will become even more unhappy, potentially causing the remainder of your fortress to break out in a Template:L.

Don't forget your alternative sources of Template:L. If your Template:Ls aren't doing the job and a Template:L is months away, try Template:L your Template:Ls, Template:L, or resorting to Template:L of local wildlife.

No Booze

Equally as bad is no Template:L, which dwarves require to be happy and productive. Some alcohol can be acquired from Template:Ls, but not enough for an entire fort until the next caravan arrives. You must Template:L plants to then Template:L those in a Template:L with an empty Template:L - it's just part of being a dwarf.

Water

No water

Healthy dwarves will not die of thirst as long as they have alcohol, which in the current version can be Template:L without the use of water. However, injured dwarves must be given water, not alcohol, or they will die of dehydration.

Template:L will refill stagnant Template:Ls of water slowly. In a hot Template:L, this may evaporate almost immediately. What's more, if the map is in a dry Template:L, such as a desert (hot or cold), then there can be long periods of time with no water anywhere - in extreme cases, none ever. Snow will not refill pools, so you can also have a lack of water in very cold Template:Ls. Also, if weather has been turned off in the Template:L file then there will be no rain and no water will accumulate, though it may be there at the beginning of the game.

If all else fails, the Template:L are bound to contain water somewhere, so you can put down a Template:L. Watch out for Template:L sources Template:L

Too Much Water (aka "Flooding accidents")

The opposite side of the dehydration spectrum is having too much water. Remember that water can Template:L in 10 directions (the 8 horizontal ones as well as up and down, to the level of its source.)

If your fortress is beginning to flood from Template:L, abandon all of the levels the water can reach immediately—creating a civilian alert and ordering your dwarves to a burrow upstairs. You will never be able to recover those areas unless you can manage to Template:L out the water faster than it floods in, which can take over a year or two of game time to establish a functioning automated pump system. Generally, a flooding accident spells doom for your fortress.

Sometimes, a fortress is flooded with Template:L. This is even more Template:L, and even harder to recover from. Any shut door will stop magma, it doesn't rise as aggressively (via Template:L) as water, and magma can be Template:Led out with the right equipment. Read up on it. Good luck.

Inability to mine ("Digger Mortis")

aka no Template:Ls.

Diggor Mortis: when a Dorf with a pickaxe decides that digging where they shouldn't is a bloody good idea.

Simply put, you need Template:Ls to mine Template:L, which is then Template:Led to make Template:L for items like more picks. If you are careless (or ignorant) of how to dig safely, and your Template:Ls create a Template:L or flood and their equipment gets lost/destroyed/unrecoverable, and you have no materials to make more picks, you will be at a severe handicap until the problem is solved. Any dwarf can be given the Template:L Template:L, but without a pick they can do nothing. There is no way to get new metals or stone for any purpose nor any way to dig new rooms/tunnels unless you have picks.

If you have Template:L or Template:Ls to create a Template:L metal, and a Template:L (and Template:L if you need one), you can create new picks and continue. You might get lucky with a Template:L - elves never carry picks, but humans sometimes have bronze ones, and dwarves generally bring some along. If the first dwarven caravan doesn't bring any, you can try to keep your fortress running long enough to request additional Template:Ls from your Outpost Template:L, who will arrive with the next dwarven trade Template:L in a year. Or you can Template:L and try again.

If you have Template:Ls and Template:Ls available, then you can build Template:Ls, Template:Ls and Template:L of Template:L, which is something.

Averting this fate is simple: stockpile at least one additional pick at the first possible opportunity, or some of the Template:L to make more, and away from current digging operations.

See also: Template:L

Dwarf vs Society?

Sometimes your traditions and mores conspire. Hell Is Other Dwarves?

General Unhappiness

Think it's no big deal to leave your dwarves with a mediocre Template:L, no-Template:L bed and a generally inadequate fortress?

If there is little in a fortress to give your dwarves happy Template:L and enough to give them unhappy Template:L, then your dwarves will start to throw Template:Ls, grow melancholy, and/or cause general chaos. In extreme (but sadly not rare) examples, this can lead to a Template:L and the loss of the entire fortress. Unhappiness is more likely to occur if your fortress is suffering other kinds of downfall, so try to keep all the bases covered.

Another problem is if you don't have a justice system in place at the time of a spiral and manage to recover. If you later implement the justice system, the hammer may kill the former tantrum throwers, starting another tantrum because of their deaths.

Dwarf vs Dwarves, Orcs, Goblins, Humans...

It's not paranoia if they ARE out to get you.

Ambush

Goblin and elven ambushes alike will charge into your fortress after they are discovered. They still retreat after suffering enough casualties. Goblins still arrive with caravans, and elves can attack at any time. Even if your dwarves do not venture onto the surface, caravans will eventually trigger the ambushes.

See Also:

War

See #Ambush.

Siege

Template:Ls can be quite devastating to a fortress, but unlike most of the other ways of losing they are unlikely to occur early on, even if you do something stupid to piss off another civilization.

Should hosts of goblins besiege your gates and drive your peasantry inside, trolls beat down your doors and force you to seal off from the outside world, you may have already lost the game. Even if you have built an utterly impenetrable fortress with drawbridges and moats, siegers may stick around for a long time. Although a dwarven fortress can be made self-contained, with Template:L, Template:L and Template:L readily available, underground Template:L and your own Template:L, a fortress may not sustain such a state indefinitely. For example, Template:L with the outside world has now been shut off, leaving you only what Template:Ls are on your map for the production of mandate goods. In the (very) long run even those will run out. This can result in a breakdown of social order if you do not prevent your Template:L from killing or maiming your dwarves. Template:L, Template:L, and Template:L commonly acquired by Template:L and Template:L need to be supplied by previously established livestock and access to suitable water. If these resources are no longer available to your workers, moody Template:L will be driven into suicide or worse. Rotten Template:L Template:Ls begin to heap in your food supply, forcing you to dump these into inside Template:Ls, generating Template:L. Unless an Template:L was established your wounded will die of dehydration.

With all these critical industries unproductive, dwarves dying, and friends mourning over the rotting heaps of slain loved ones, it's important to remember your dwarves have nothing to do but throw funeral receptions, grief counseling sessions, and the occasional keg stand. This means they've all become one big happy family of friends, manically depressed from the loss of any dwarf.

In short, the attacking army can simply wait until your dwarves emo themselves to death.

HFS

(Hidden Fun Stuff)


If you don't want Template:L, trust us: you'll know when you've found it. It's a great deal of Fun.