v0.31 Talk:Kennel

I have been having trouble taming creatures, but other than that it seems like kennels haven't particularly changed.

2010 War Dogs

Is it just me, or are war dogs barely worth the investment? Mine do virtually no damage to anything and just get themselves killed (I've just had one killed by a troglodyte, of all things).--Nimblewright 12:29, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

• Individually they don't do a lot of damage, but it's pretty easy to get a swarm of them - and a war dog swarm is a force to be reckoned with.

2010 [TRAINABLE] animals

Since apparently Elephants are now trainable, someone needs to compile a list of animals that can be trained into war animals and added to this page for easy listing 68.161.167.37 13:35, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Here you go, this is everything with the tags in the raws. Note there are none with [TRAINABLE_WAR] --StrongAxe 13:48, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

• [TRAINABLE]
  • [CREATURE:DOG]
  • [CREATURE:BIRD_EAGLE_GIANT]
  • [CREATURE:BEAR_GRIZZLY]
  • [CREATURE:ELEPHANT]
  • [CREATURE:LION]
  • [CREATURE:LEOPARD]
  • [CREATURE:JAGUAR]
  • [CREATURE:TIGER]
  • [CREATURE:CHEETAH]
  • [CREATURE:MANDRILL]
  • [CREATURE:GORILLA]
  • [CREATURE:BEAR_POLAR]
  • [CREATURE:LION_GIANT]
  • [CREATURE:LEOPARD_GIANT]
  • [CREATURE:JAGUAR_GIANT]
  • [CREATURE:TIGER_GIANT]
  • [CREATURE:CHEETAH_GIANT]
  • [CREATURE:DRAGON]
• [TRAINABLE_HUNTING]
  • [CREATURE:BAT_GIANT]
  • [CREATURE:BIRD_SWALLOW_CAVE_GIANT]

Does anyone know the difference between [TRAINABLE] and [TRAINABLE_WAR]? If there's no difference can we assume Toady has an idea he has yet to implement... Numeral 17:58, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Given that [TRAINABLE_HUNTING] only allows the creature to be trained for hunting and not for war, it's rather likely that [TRAINABLE_WAR] only allows the creature to be trained for war and not for hunting. --Quietust 18:05, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

My bad, I was under the assumption that [TRAINABLE] was only for war animals and that to have an animal be hunter trainable and war trainable it needed both [TRAINABLE] and [TRAINABLE_HUNTING] Numeral 18:11, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Animals appear to have to be uncaged prior to being trained; a lack of uncaged trainable animals throws up a 'no trainable creatures available' error. Fortunately, dwarves still recognized caged wild animals if ordered to tame them.

Kennel as Workshop

Should it be noted that the kennel isn't built from the workshop menu, but is actually directly under the build menu 98.117.151.147 03:52, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Additional Detail?

Perhaps it should be added in the article that the creature to be trained has to be roaming the fortress freely and may not be assigned to a cage or restraint? --Doub 14:23, 3 May 2010 (UTC)