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Is there any way to make this automatically update? Also is there a way to not show the '-' at the start and end of the lines as they look ugly but just removing them would mean it would have to be checked for every item we add.
 
Is there any way to make this automatically update? Also is there a way to not show the '-' at the start and end of the lines as they look ugly but just removing them would mean it would have to be checked for every item we add.
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==Should this template include hidden fun stuff?==
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Should this template contain links to the pages of the [[Demon|creatures found in the hidden fun stuff]]? IMHO, it seems like putting spoiler warnings everywhere related to them is rather unpractical and gets in the way of easy navigation, and I don't really get why everyone is trying to keep them secret, but I'd like a few other opinions before I add them all in. --[[User:Mikaka|Mikaka]] 14:51, 24 May 2008 (EDT)
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:I would say anything that would use a spoiler warning should not be in a template used outside the spoiler sections. The point of marking things as spoilers is so that new players don't learn everything all at once, and spoil the surprises of learning about them first hand. Whether or not new players heed the spoiler tags isn't really something we need to consider. We just need to give them the chance to preserve the surprises. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 19:29, 24 May 2008 (EDT)
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::I say hide the spoiler-type creatures inside a start-hidden section. Then again, the only spoilable creature is the demon, so there's no point in hiding only it. --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMaria]] 15:25, 25 May 2008 (EDT)
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:::Well, there's all the varieties of demons, but yea, a hidden section containing at most half a dozen seems a bit much to bother with. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 19:06, 25 May 2008 (EDT)
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==Why semimegabeasts don't have their own category?==
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I think it would make sense. They are so much different from the humanoids now listed with them, mostly because of their commanding nature, but also because of there just being so much less of them.
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The titan and bronze colossus are humanoid too, so the semimegabeasts, although being humanoid, shouldn't necessarily be listed as such.
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Another possibility is that semimegabeasts would be included in the megabeast-category by naming it (semi)megabeast, an expression commonly used by Toady. 
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--[[User:LASD|LASD]] 15:56, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
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== Version split? ==
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This template seems to be being used in all 3 versions, even though it is horribly unsuited to the task - lots of creatures were introduced between 0.23 and 0.28, and 0.31 not only added many but '''renamed''' several and outright removed a few. There's also the fact that many creatures aren't even included in the list (for 0.31, the amethyst man, blood man, bugbat, cave floater, centaur, chimera, crundle, draltha, flesh ball, gabbro man, giant earthworm, gorlak, green devourer, gremlin, griffon, harpy, helmet snake, hungry head, longnose gar, manera, marlin, molemarian, plump helmet man, pond grabber, reacher, rutherer, satyr, sea monster, sea serpent, tigerfish, tigerman, and wagon)... --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 15:59, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

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Is there any way to make this automatically update? Also is there a way to not show the '-' at the start and end of the lines as they look ugly but just removing them would mean it would have to be checked for every item we add.

Should this template include hidden fun stuff?[edit]

Should this template contain links to the pages of the creatures found in the hidden fun stuff? IMHO, it seems like putting spoiler warnings everywhere related to them is rather unpractical and gets in the way of easy navigation, and I don't really get why everyone is trying to keep them secret, but I'd like a few other opinions before I add them all in. --Mikaka 14:51, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

I would say anything that would use a spoiler warning should not be in a template used outside the spoiler sections. The point of marking things as spoilers is so that new players don't learn everything all at once, and spoil the surprises of learning about them first hand. Whether or not new players heed the spoiler tags isn't really something we need to consider. We just need to give them the chance to preserve the surprises. --Edward 19:29, 24 May 2008 (EDT)
I say hide the spoiler-type creatures inside a start-hidden section. Then again, the only spoilable creature is the demon, so there's no point in hiding only it. --GreyMaria 15:25, 25 May 2008 (EDT)
Well, there's all the varieties of demons, but yea, a hidden section containing at most half a dozen seems a bit much to bother with. --Edward 19:06, 25 May 2008 (EDT)

Why semimegabeasts don't have their own category?[edit]

I think it would make sense. They are so much different from the humanoids now listed with them, mostly because of their commanding nature, but also because of there just being so much less of them.

The titan and bronze colossus are humanoid too, so the semimegabeasts, although being humanoid, shouldn't necessarily be listed as such.

Another possibility is that semimegabeasts would be included in the megabeast-category by naming it (semi)megabeast, an expression commonly used by Toady.

--LASD 15:56, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

Version split?[edit]

This template seems to be being used in all 3 versions, even though it is horribly unsuited to the task - lots of creatures were introduced between 0.23 and 0.28, and 0.31 not only added many but renamed several and outright removed a few. There's also the fact that many creatures aren't even included in the list (for 0.31, the amethyst man, blood man, bugbat, cave floater, centaur, chimera, crundle, draltha, flesh ball, gabbro man, giant earthworm, gorlak, green devourer, gremlin, griffon, harpy, helmet snake, hungry head, longnose gar, manera, marlin, molemarian, plump helmet man, pond grabber, reacher, rutherer, satyr, sea monster, sea serpent, tigerfish, tigerman, and wagon)... --Quietust 15:59, 12 May 2010 (UTC)