Editing 40d Talk:Mist

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== Falling Mist? ==

I don't have any place to build my own waterfall, so if anyone knows... Is the mist generated by the '''falling''' or by the '''landing''' water? I.e. if it falls sevel levels down, will the mist be generated on every level, or only at the bottom?--[[User:Dorten|Dorten]] 00:07, 14 January 2008 (EST)
:'''Falling''' water generates mist, afaik. (Be warned, falling magma generates magma mist, which is deadly!) [[User:GreyMario|GreyMario]] 15:01, 14 January 2008 (EST)
::You seem to have experimented a bit with [[magma mist]], greymario. Could you help expand the article? [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 19:35, 14 January 2008 (EST)
:::Or, well, last I heard it was deadly, anyway. I haven't needed to make lava waterfalls yet, thank god. --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMario]] 16:08, 23 April 2008 (EDT)
::::I realize I'm a year late to this party, but for those that might have a similar question, '''falling''' water will not generate mist ''unless'' you have a grate in place, from what I know. I've experimented with many modular combination waterfall-perpetual motion-well-resevoir designs, and all of them required the grates for mist to occur and generate happy thoughts. --[[User:Hilscher|Hilscher]] 21:10, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

== Lava Mist ==

I just started to divert a river into a volcano (magma vent) and every now and then theres a cave in. When that happens, a column of 'Lava Mist' is created... what is this? --[[User:Mabmoro|mabmoro]] 21:42, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

== How much mist? ==

How much mist is generated from falling/splashing water? This seems to be one of those things that either everyone knows and so it's assumed, or nobody knows and never bother to ask. The closest I've been able to get to a real answer is "a column." --[[User:Aethios|Aethios]] 07:32, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

== AncientEnemy's mist generator ==

The design from [http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=34407.0 this thread] ought to be included on this page under a "Generating Mist" heading.  I may do it myself if I get around to it, but there's the link if someone else wants to try it.  --[[User:FunkyWaltDogg|FunkyWaltDogg]] 13:46, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

:I still can't visualize the construction of the version with no retaining wall.  Suggest an image of it, or both, in the official tile set.  --[[User:Nightwind|Nightwind]] 03:03, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

::It is rather difficult to imagine, and I agree that a official tile set image would be nice.  Let me see if I can explain it better and then perhaps someone can fix it!  I'm not sure how to set it up with the tile set, but perhaps I'll figure it out.  

::Only the z=1 level layout is important.  The pumps need to be setup for clockwise or counterclockwise operation and one of the "hole" squares has a place for water to sit at the z=0 level. As the article says, on this z=1 level, designate the hole with ground under it as a pond.  The dwarfs will attempt to fill it up using buckets (see [[pond]]).  After the first bucket, the water in the square is at a level of 1/7.  At this level, the water doesn't spread out but also no water is picked up by the pump as it needs 2/7.  But, just as the second dwarf adds water to make it 2/7, the pump picks it up and then the cycle is started. Meaning the water is now looping around from pump to pump.  Say another dwarf adds more to the same square. Then the water will be at 1/7 so it will not get picked or expand like before.  However, when the water that is already looping in the loop hits that square, the two combine.  Then the water is 3/7, so the 3/7 water now starts cycling around. I think after you get to 7/7, the water starts to "spill" in the z=1 level, but I've not done it. I have found that 2/7 water generates enough mist, so I don't bother past this point, and I just make the pond zone inactive.  Does that help at all?--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 13:52, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

::That explains the original that I almost understood,  then I read it a second time and it clicks... AH HA.  It stops explaining what i think I'm seeing, and starts to reveal 'the truth'.  In other words, that was enough detail to get through my thick skull, thank you.--[[User:Nightwind|Nightwind]] 17:26, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
:::With another Z-level above the pumps, it's also possible to create a simple on/off switch for the mist generator - place a single screw pump directly above one of the others below (with the same horizontal/vertical orientation) with its output tile walled in, then channel out the floor underneath the output tile and build a floor hatch. Power the pump through a gear assembly, then link a lever to the gear assembly and the floor hatch (making sure the lever is in the "off" position when linked to the gear). When in the "off" state, the hatch will be closed and the pump will be active, sucking the water out of the loop and holding it in a (1 tile) tank, and when in the "on" state, the hatch will be open and the pump will be inactive, allowing the water to fall back into the system and continue generating mist. This would be ideal for allowing future renovation (such as replacing statues with those of higher quality) or temporarily reducing lag. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 15:20, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
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 I just started to divert a river into a volcano (magma vent) and every now and then theres a cave in. When that happens, a column of 'Lava Mist' is created... what is this? --[[User:Mabmoro|mabmoro]] 21:42, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
-::::This is the mist generated as the new 'natural wall' of magma/lava that has been created by the reaction  between water and magma falls through other areas of lava, just as if a floor where dropped on the lava.
---[[User:Haydosss|Haydosss]] 17:08 21 Mar 2010
 == How much mist? ==
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 ::That explains the original that I almost understood,  then I read it a second time and it clicks... AH HA.  It stops explaining what i think I'm seeing, and starts to reveal 'the truth'.  In other words, that was enough detail to get through my thick skull, thank you.--[[User:Nightwind|Nightwind]] 17:26, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 :::With another Z-level above the pumps, it's also possible to create a simple on/off switch for the mist generator - place a single screw pump directly above one of the others below (with the same horizontal/vertical orientation) with its output tile walled in, then channel out the floor underneath the output tile and build a floor hatch. Power the pump through a gear assembly, then link a lever to the gear assembly and the floor hatch (making sure the lever is in the "off" position when linked to the gear). When in the "off" state, the hatch will be closed and the pump will be active, sucking the water out of the loop and holding it in a (1 tile) tank, and when in the "on" state, the hatch will be open and the pump will be inactive, allowing the water to fall back into the system and continue generating mist. This would be ideal for allowing future renovation (such as replacing statues with those of higher quality) or temporarily reducing lag. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 15:20, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
-== Properties of mist ==
-Does anyone know what the properties of mist are, such as how far a single 'column' will travel before it disapears? Or, what kinds of things mist will move through, such as bars or fortifications.~~