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:::::Alright. What about this? [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 21:04, 20 May 2010 (UTC) | :::::Alright. What about this? [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 21:04, 20 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
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==Stone, gem and similar articles== | ==Stone, gem and similar articles== | ||
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:In my view, quality should be a reflection of the percentage of the total information about a given subject that exists. So if we're talking about non-special stones, there is very little information aside from their basic properties, colours, locations etc. Thus if an article encapsulates all of those, it should be rated fairly high quality. I can see that there could be an argument for adding like a little descriptive sentence on the page or something, but surely brevity and simplicity are features that suggest a higher quality of article. In addition, if you look at the current definition for Masterwork Quality articles, these basic stone articles are comprehensive on the subject, contain no unverified information, have an appropriate number of outbound links, do not have any redlinks and are properly categorized. The only feature I am not sure on is whether the links are in the right format, but I'd be willing to bet that it is. If that is the case, the only problem with them, and the only thing holding them back from being Masterwork (by the current definition) is the fact that they do not have multiple editors. Surely then, if we go through the pages and quickly check if the information is correct, we can then reclassify them as Masterwork. [[User:Pie|Pie]] 00:36, 17 May 2010 (UTC) | :In my view, quality should be a reflection of the percentage of the total information about a given subject that exists. So if we're talking about non-special stones, there is very little information aside from their basic properties, colours, locations etc. Thus if an article encapsulates all of those, it should be rated fairly high quality. I can see that there could be an argument for adding like a little descriptive sentence on the page or something, but surely brevity and simplicity are features that suggest a higher quality of article. In addition, if you look at the current definition for Masterwork Quality articles, these basic stone articles are comprehensive on the subject, contain no unverified information, have an appropriate number of outbound links, do not have any redlinks and are properly categorized. The only feature I am not sure on is whether the links are in the right format, but I'd be willing to bet that it is. If that is the case, the only problem with them, and the only thing holding them back from being Masterwork (by the current definition) is the fact that they do not have multiple editors. Surely then, if we go through the pages and quickly check if the information is correct, we can then reclassify them as Masterwork. [[User:Pie|Pie]] 00:36, 17 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
+ | Adding the real life information is just extraneous nonsense that doesn't help anything. Every mineral article has a link to the wikipedia page on the same subject already (in the side chart), we simply do not require a chemical formula and a crystal matrix diagram for every mineral on a wiki devoted to Dwarf Fortress gameplay. | ||
− | + | For vermin articles, it makes sense to have a longer article for the economically important cave spider. For mineral articles, it makes sense to have a longer article for the rare and game specific adamantine. A D for Dwarf section for minerals like chert is simply unreasonable, and would take away from the specific purpose of the wiki, which is information first. | |
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− | + | All of the mineral articles fulfill the masterwork obligations. They are as comprehensive on the subject at hand as necessary, because this is a game, not a geology lesson. If players are interested in geology, they can find the information they need more effectively elsewhere. [[User:JohnnyMadhouse|JohnnyMadhouse]] 22:54, 21 May 2010 (UTC) | |
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==who rates those articles== | ==who rates those articles== | ||
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::::::Yeah. Fine really isn't a neutral word. What would be a good replacement? [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 12:30, 16 May 2010 (UTC) | ::::::Yeah. Fine really isn't a neutral word. What would be a good replacement? [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 12:30, 16 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:::::Well tbh fine is fine, not good, as in it's not bad but it isn't good either = neutral. Exceptional = good and Masterwork = great. I was in fact thinking that, rating-wise, Masterwork is really close to Exceptional, and Exceptional is pretty far away from Fine, so it would be a good idea to turn Fine into Well-crafted and Exceptional into Superior, to have them all 2 levels apart: Tattered(0), Well-crafted(2), Superior(4), Masterful(6... or 12). --[[User:Speed112|Speed112]] 12:14, 16 May 2010 (UTC) | :::::Well tbh fine is fine, not good, as in it's not bad but it isn't good either = neutral. Exceptional = good and Masterwork = great. I was in fact thinking that, rating-wise, Masterwork is really close to Exceptional, and Exceptional is pretty far away from Fine, so it would be a good idea to turn Fine into Well-crafted and Exceptional into Superior, to have them all 2 levels apart: Tattered(0), Well-crafted(2), Superior(4), Masterful(6... or 12). --[[User:Speed112|Speed112]] 12:14, 16 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
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::This is now implmented, the "score" is DF2010 only. Hohlenschreck, does this meet your ideas? Or do you not want labels on older articles at all? [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]])</sup> 06:30, 12 May 2010 (UTC) | ::This is now implmented, the "score" is DF2010 only. Hohlenschreck, does this meet your ideas? Or do you not want labels on older articles at all? [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]])</sup> 06:30, 12 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::I think this is fine --[[User:Höhlenschreck|Höhlenschreck]] 00:43, 14 May 2010 (UTC) | :::I think this is fine --[[User:Höhlenschreck|Höhlenschreck]] 00:43, 14 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
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