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::I agree that there needs to at least be some elaboration on the reference to a "native" resolution for screenshots, as it seems irrelevant and misleading with the new display settings and menu in the steam version. Unfortunately, having only just come back to DF after years away, I don't feel confident that I can do this myself, competently. [[User:Alpacalypse|Alpacalypse]] ([[User talk:Alpacalypse|talk]]) 11:32, 7 March 2023 (UTC) | ::I agree that there needs to at least be some elaboration on the reference to a "native" resolution for screenshots, as it seems irrelevant and misleading with the new display settings and menu in the steam version. Unfortunately, having only just come back to DF after years away, I don't feel confident that I can do this myself, competently. [[User:Alpacalypse|Alpacalypse]] ([[User talk:Alpacalypse|talk]]) 11:32, 7 March 2023 (UTC) | ||
− | : All of your suggestions seem perfectly sensible to me (assuming that the pixel perfect zoom level is consistent for every user). I don't see why you couldn't take the initiative and pretty much cut and paste your comment here, with some minor tweaks for readability, to a new section on the | + | : All of your suggestions seem perfectly sensible to me (assuming that the pixel perfect zoom level is consistent for every user). I don't see why you couldn't take the initiative and pretty much cut and paste your comment here, with some minor tweaks for readability, to a new section on the screenshots page with a relevant title. Get the ball rolling, it doesn't need to be exhaustively comprehensive to start with. Once the edit is there, it will encourage other wiki editors to make any additions or changes over time. [[User:Alpacalypse|Alpacalypse]] ([[User talk:Alpacalypse|talk]]) 11:42, 7 March 2023 (UTC) |
====How would I/should I go about putting creature sprites on their pages?==== | ====How would I/should I go about putting creature sprites on their pages?==== | ||
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:Trade wagons has been modified in v50. The first wagons will arrive at the same time your fort is becoming a barony. Until then, it's only pack animals and stairs are indeed fine. The [[Trading]] page needs a huge rework anyway... I'll try to do that next week. --[[User:Halavus|Halavus]] ([[User talk:Halavus|talk]]) 13:40, 2 January 2023 (UTC) | :Trade wagons has been modified in v50. The first wagons will arrive at the same time your fort is becoming a barony. Until then, it's only pack animals and stairs are indeed fine. The [[Trading]] page needs a huge rework anyway... I'll try to do that next week. --[[User:Halavus|Halavus]] ([[User talk:Halavus|talk]]) 13:40, 2 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
− | As far as I can tell, none of the workshop buildings in v50 have blocking tiles any more. There's a comment to the like in data/vanilla/vanilla_buildings/objects/building_custom.txt that says this "[BLOCK:1:0:0:0] workbenches no longer block". Hesitant to update that template as I'm not sure if it's referenced for all of the old versions too. [[User:AndrielChaoti|AndrielChaoti]] ([[User talk:AndrielChaoti|talk]]) 05:54, 29 December 2022 (UTC) | + | <s>As far as I can tell, none of the workshop buildings in v50 have blocking tiles any more. There's a comment to the like in data/vanilla/vanilla_buildings/objects/building_custom.txt that says this "[BLOCK:1:0:0:0] workbenches no longer block". Hesitant to update that template as I'm not sure if it's referenced for all of the old versions too. </s> [[User:AndrielChaoti|AndrielChaoti]] ([[User talk:AndrielChaoti|talk]]) 05:54, 29 December 2022 (UTC) |
: A new template has been created: {{tl|V50 workshop}} --[[User:Halavus|Halavus]] ([[User talk:Halavus|talk]]) 13:40, 2 January 2023 (UTC) | : A new template has been created: {{tl|V50 workshop}} --[[User:Halavus|Halavus]] ([[User talk:Halavus|talk]]) 13:40, 2 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
::Thanks! In general, I would like to delegate the switching responsibility to the template (like how {{tl|creaturelookup/0}} works), but in cases where the parameters diverge significantly like with workshops, it could make sense to make an entirely new template. —[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 02:40, 3 January 2023 (UTC) | ::Thanks! In general, I would like to delegate the switching responsibility to the template (like how {{tl|creaturelookup/0}} works), but in cases where the parameters diverge significantly like with workshops, it could make sense to make an entirely new template. —[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 02:40, 3 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
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I was just doing a simple edit to [[cave river]] so it redirected to a more relevant page, but this was such a seemingly innocuous page that raised some rather mind-boggling questions for me. Primarily, why does it even exist when it has not been referenced by any wiki pages post 40d, and even then [[40d:Cave river]] was already an outdated redirect. Before changing the redirect, it was redirecting to [[23a:Cave_river]] which lead to a circular v50 link on that page, back to itself, also implying that it might be some old feature reintroduced in v50. | I was just doing a simple edit to [[cave river]] so it redirected to a more relevant page, but this was such a seemingly innocuous page that raised some rather mind-boggling questions for me. Primarily, why does it even exist when it has not been referenced by any wiki pages post 40d, and even then [[40d:Cave river]] was already an outdated redirect. Before changing the redirect, it was redirecting to [[23a:Cave_river]] which lead to a circular v50 link on that page, back to itself, also implying that it might be some old feature reintroduced in v50. | ||
− | I also added a "removed feature" tag to the page, so it would at least be marked as an obsolete feature, and though mostly irrelevant, due to the redirect, it adds a reference to "see... previous versions". If [[template:av]] is added it only shows v50 and dead v0.47 link; despite showing links, dead or not, to all versions, on the v23a page | + | I also added a "removed feature" tag to the page, so it would at least be marked as an obsolete feature, and though mostly irrelevant, due to the redirect, it adds a reference to "see... previous versions". If [[template:av]] is added it only shows v50 and dead v0.47 link; despite showing links, dead or not, to all versions, on the v23a page. |
Though the wiki wizardry is a bit beyond me, I assume, for v50, this page was created automatically due to some page migration script, even though there are no pages for the three previous versions. Going by this precedent, shouldn't this page just be deleted? If not, considering it is hard to see why anyone would be searching for "Cave river" in the first place, unless they thought it was a feature for some reason, perhaps this page shouldn't redirect at all, and instead be presented as an "obsolete feature" entry with some relevant information and links. | Though the wiki wizardry is a bit beyond me, I assume, for v50, this page was created automatically due to some page migration script, even though there are no pages for the three previous versions. Going by this precedent, shouldn't this page just be deleted? If not, considering it is hard to see why anyone would be searching for "Cave river" in the first place, unless they thought it was a feature for some reason, perhaps this page shouldn't redirect at all, and instead be presented as an "obsolete feature" entry with some relevant information and links. | ||
If the above assumption is correct, it seems like there might be a lot of other possibly redundant and needlessly irrelevant, strangely redirected, or misleading pages for the current version lurking out there; in which case, this might be an issue worthy of further review and added somewhere onto a figurative or literal v50 housekeeping list. (Which this entry here may count as). [[User:Alpacalypse|Alpacalypse]] ([[User talk:Alpacalypse|talk]]) 13:41, 7 March 2023 (UTC) | If the above assumption is correct, it seems like there might be a lot of other possibly redundant and needlessly irrelevant, strangely redirected, or misleading pages for the current version lurking out there; in which case, this might be an issue worthy of further review and added somewhere onto a figurative or literal v50 housekeeping list. (Which this entry here may count as). [[User:Alpacalypse|Alpacalypse]] ([[User talk:Alpacalypse|talk]]) 13:41, 7 March 2023 (UTC) | ||
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=== creature infobox prototype (moved) === | === creature infobox prototype (moved) === | ||
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Missing menu/interface entries: | Missing menu/interface entries: | ||
:* [[Tasks]] | :* [[Tasks]] | ||
− | :* [[Objects]] | + | :* [[Objects]] - [[Symbols]] (redirects) • [[Named objects]] |
:* (Justice) - [[Open cases]] • [[Closed cases]] • [[Cold cases]] • [[Convicts]] • [[Intelligence]] | :* (Justice) - [[Open cases]] • [[Closed cases]] • [[Cold cases]] • [[Convicts]] • [[Intelligence]] | ||
Outdated information/missing new interface info: | Outdated information/missing new interface info: | ||
:* (Places) - [[Stockpile|Stockpiles]] • [[Workshops]] • [[Farming|Farm plots]] | :* (Places) - [[Stockpile|Stockpiles]] • [[Workshops]] • [[Farming|Farm plots]] | ||
− | :* (Objects) - [[Artifacts | + | :* (Objects) - [[Artifacts]] • [[Books|Written content]] |
:* [[Justice]] - [[Fortress guard]] | :* [[Justice]] - [[Fortress guard]] | ||
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Also, apologies if I went a bit far editing a template to such an extreme without checking first, I was a bit worried I might mess something up across multiple pages, but decided to take the '''B'''e bold! guideline at face value. :D [[User:Alpacalypse|Alpacalypse]] ([[User talk:Alpacalypse|talk]]) 13:59, 5 March 2023 (UTC) | Also, apologies if I went a bit far editing a template to such an extreme without checking first, I was a bit worried I might mess something up across multiple pages, but decided to take the '''B'''e bold! guideline at face value. :D [[User:Alpacalypse|Alpacalypse]] ([[User talk:Alpacalypse|talk]]) 13:59, 5 March 2023 (UTC) | ||
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== Toggleable image == | == Toggleable image == | ||
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Could someone put the toggle image thing on the plant infoboxes? --[[User:Zippy|Zippy]] ([[User talk:Zippy|talk]]) 20:08, 13 February 2023 (UTC) | Could someone put the toggle image thing on the plant infoboxes? --[[User:Zippy|Zippy]] ([[User talk:Zippy|talk]]) 20:08, 13 February 2023 (UTC) | ||
{{clear}} | {{clear}} | ||
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==Creature List Now Supports Graphics!== | ==Creature List Now Supports Graphics!== | ||
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: Maybe we follow the same "Toggle" format as with creatures for the ASCII? Then there's probably enough room to comfortably include all or most of the tree sprites (trunk, branches of different sizes, growths). While I admire your Herculean efforts, this stuff can be automated as well. I'm working on some code for a separate project for parsing raws and extracting various df sprites, which I'm hoping to share out sometime this month, which could be helpful for this kind of thing. —[[User:OddballJoe|OddballJoe]] ([[User talk:OddballJoe|talk]]) 20:19, 9 February 2023 (UTC) | : Maybe we follow the same "Toggle" format as with creatures for the ASCII? Then there's probably enough room to comfortably include all or most of the tree sprites (trunk, branches of different sizes, growths). While I admire your Herculean efforts, this stuff can be automated as well. I'm working on some code for a separate project for parsing raws and extracting various df sprites, which I'm hoping to share out sometime this month, which could be helpful for this kind of thing. —[[User:OddballJoe|OddballJoe]] ([[User talk:OddballJoe|talk]]) 20:19, 9 February 2023 (UTC) | ||
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