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Geology: Despite seeing sedimentary rock on the embark screen, its all far underwater or part of the aquifer (which i honestly can't be bothered trying to mess with right now).  lots of igneous rock available for quarrying though, which means i don't have to make wood blocks or anything so silly.  Lots of sand, though no beach.  Magma vent (this is critical).  Aquifer fails to extend all the way to ocean, giving me vertical access within a screen of the shore.
 
Geology: Despite seeing sedimentary rock on the embark screen, its all far underwater or part of the aquifer (which i honestly can't be bothered trying to mess with right now).  lots of igneous rock available for quarrying though, which means i don't have to make wood blocks or anything so silly.  Lots of sand, though no beach.  Magma vent (this is critical).  Aquifer fails to extend all the way to ocean, giving me vertical access within a screen of the shore.
  
Near temporary fortress: Plenty of copper ores (native, malachite, tetrahedrite all present) near the surface, plus some hematite, and native aluminum.  One of the aluminum deposits appears alluvial... is that supposed to happen? A ridiculous amount of native gold - seriously, I could tile my fortress in the stuff. Also a decent amount of platinum and abundant garnierite far below.
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Near temporary fortress: Plenty of copper ores (native, malachite, tetrahedrite all present) near the surface, plus some hematite, native gold, and native aluminum.  One of the aluminum deposits appears alluvial... is that supposed to happen?  Also some platinum and (apparently abundant) garnierite far below, but i haven't mined much yet.
 
 
  
 
==Stage 0==
 
==Stage 0==
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And my only possession mood was an armorsmith... why oh why couldn't I get xp for that one.  But I have a suit of gold platemail worth 520k, which is ~1/3 of my fortress value.  Now if only I had any clue how effective gold platemail is...
 
And my only possession mood was an armorsmith... why oh why couldn't I get xp for that one.  But I have a suit of gold platemail worth 520k, which is ~1/3 of my fortress value.  Now if only I had any clue how effective gold platemail is...
 
Spring brought an elven caravan that I bought out with glass goblets and reworked goblin clothing (+sewn images), netting me a metric ton of cloth (ok, probably not, but its a lot of cloth).  Things are going peacefully until summer, when a fisherdwarf (I swear thats my last one) triggers a goblin ambush outside my entrance... again.  Quickly dies, and the ambushers get mangled by my traps.  Send military to clean up stragglers.  And then the human caravan arrives, triggering first a second and then a third ambush.  Oh joy.  And of course the idiot wagon drivers try to go through the goblins rather than wait for their bodyguards...  For my part, one wrestler responds (same as last time actually) and acquits himself rather well against some hammer goblins - killing two and throwing some more into my traps before the human mercs have fought their way to him.  Of course, the goblins broke 2 wagons and killed a merchant, so the humans just leave - sigh, no trading for me.  And while I don't object to free stuff from broken wagons... I really needed to trade crap to get it out of my fortress, not acquire more random junk.  They also leave behind 3 horse corpses and a horse missing three of its legs which is trying to limp off after the departing merchants...
 
 
Needless to say, the 18 goblin corpses and all the junk scattered about in front of my fortress has inundated my job queue, so much so that I have cooked food rotting in my kitchen and starting to spread miasma because no one can be bothered to move the cooked food before it rots.  I hate my dwarves some times.  Its also going to take my furnace operators forever to melt all this iron armor down, even with 4 smelters...
 
  
 
To do:<br>
 
To do:<br>
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Consume excess stone with mechanics/masons (need better trained workers so making screw pumps and setting up gears doesn't take so long).<br>
 
Consume excess stone with mechanics/masons (need better trained workers so making screw pumps and setting up gears doesn't take so long).<br>
 
Smelt more nickel and lead to make bins out of (wood is too precious to waste on bins!) <br>
 
Smelt more nickel and lead to make bins out of (wood is too precious to waste on bins!) <br>
 
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So, I took about a 4 month break from this game because it was taking far too long to accomplish anything real.  Its Fall 1056, and I'm within a screen of making my test run on Operation: Orange Ruffy.  A quick look over my dwarves to remind myself what the heck is going on reveals ~15 legendary dwarves (some of them multi-legendary), and 11 artifacts built.  Much of my industry is held up waiting on the move over to the undersea fortress, either waiting on magma to finish flowing or on blocks to be cleared away so my stockpile areas are useable.  Realized the only things I really need to trade for are wood and coal.
 
 
So, starting from this point I'll try to get back on this and see if I can't achieve my architectural dreams.
 
  
 
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==Engineering challenges==  
 
==Engineering challenges==  
 
*Construct an entrance below sea level in the ocean that can be sealed and flooded, but cleared to allow a caravan. (done)
 
*Construct an entrance below sea level in the ocean that can be sealed and flooded, but cleared to allow a caravan. (done)
*Project: Orange Ruffy.  Find a way to build downwards.  You can't hang down stairs off the side, only up stairs, so you can't just build stairs down.  Below are three ideas.  Regardless, they all require substantial labor to deconstruct afterwards - can't mar the beautiful glass structures after all.
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*Find a way to build downwards.  You can't hang down stairs off the side, only up stairs, so you can't just build stairs down.  Below are three ideas.  Regardless, they all require substantial labor to deconstruct afterwards - can't mar the beautiful glass structures after all.
 
*#Run a channel of magma to where you want to go down and release small bursts at just above sea level.  This should ensure the resulting obsidian is touching your structure, and thus supported.  Channel through it, release more magma.  Rinse/wash/repeat.  Not sure if the second and subsequent layers are actually going to be supported, but it'll be fun to watch.  Removing the magma channel after your done building things could be a pain though.
 
*#Run a channel of magma to where you want to go down and release small bursts at just above sea level.  This should ensure the resulting obsidian is touching your structure, and thus supported.  Channel through it, release more magma.  Rinse/wash/repeat.  Not sure if the second and subsequent layers are actually going to be supported, but it'll be fun to watch.  Removing the magma channel after your done building things could be a pain though.
 
*#Drop magma from a z-level above the water.  This will cause a 'cave-in' as obsidian forms unsupported on the water's surface, likely allowing the next portion of magma to hit a lower z-level of water, etc...  Eventually (and in theory) you'll get obsidian on the ocean floor and it can build up, giving you an obsidian spike to carve stairs into.
 
*#Drop magma from a z-level above the water.  This will cause a 'cave-in' as obsidian forms unsupported on the water's surface, likely allowing the next portion of magma to hit a lower z-level of water, etc...  Eventually (and in theory) you'll get obsidian on the ocean floor and it can build up, giving you an obsidian spike to carve stairs into.
 
*#Just pump a path all the way to the ocean bottom from the shore... this is really labor intensive and not much fun.
 
*#Just pump a path all the way to the ocean bottom from the shore... this is really labor intensive and not much fun.
*Project: Chambered Nautilus.  Use downward building techniques to build down through 15+ levels of sea water.  Yes, I am crazy, why do you ask?  Note that with the pumping method you lose 3 squares in all directions each level you go down, so you're looking at a minimum surface water pumping construct at least 88 screwpumps on a side to get a 1-block diameter tower with 15 z-levels of ocean to go through.  Fortunately, every additional initial screwpump after that is pure gain.
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*Use downward building techniques to build down through 15+ levels of sea water.  Yes, I am crazy, why do you ask?  Note that with the pumping method you lose 3 squares in all directions each level you go down, so you're looking at a minimum surface water pumping construct at least 88 screwpumps on a side to get a 1-block diameter tower with 15 z-levels of ocean to go through.  Fortunately, every additional initial screwpump after that is pure gain.
*Project: Squidzilla. Pump enough water to build a large glass dome, preferably 6+ stories high, and in the end entirely under water.  This is a challenge of breadth more than depth, as its going to require a similarly obscene number of screw pumps.
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*Pump enough water to build a large glass dome, preferably 6+ stories high, and in the end entirely under water.  This is a challenge of breadth more than depth, as its going to require a similarly obscene number of screw pumps.
*Project: Gepetto.  Build a large glass whale breaching the surface somewhere out in open water.  Include working blowhole.  It'll be awesome.
 
 
*Do all this and don't get eaten by the Skeletal Mako Short Fin Shark.
 
*Do all this and don't get eaten by the Skeletal Mako Short Fin Shark.
  
 
==Silly Statistics==
 
==Silly Statistics==
Dwarves: 162<br>
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Dwarves: 89<br>
*Masons: 9 or 10, i think...<br>
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*Masons: 8<br>
*Mechanics: 8 <br>
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*Mechanics: 6 <br>
Total Screw Pumps built: 83 <br>
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Total Screw Pumps built: 82 <br>
Total Screw Pumps present on map: 83 (these numbers will eventually be different) <br>
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Total Screw Pumps present on map: 82 (these numbers will eventually be different) <br>
Screw Pumps powered: 82 <br>
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Screw Pumps powered: 81 <br>
Total power currently available: 2200<br>
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Total power currently available: 1760<br>
Total power used: 200 on permanently powered screw pumps and necessary gearing, 435 on the structure of my engine, I can use up to ~1000 additional power with current pumps and connecting gears by turning on appropriate gears.<br>
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Total power used: 1330<br>
 
Volume of ocean displaced: 77 cubes<br>
 
Volume of ocean displaced: 77 cubes<br>
 
Volume of ocean 'permanently' displaced: 54 cubes (ie, occupied by structure or structure-enclosed space) <br>
 
Volume of ocean 'permanently' displaced: 54 cubes (ie, occupied by structure or structure-enclosed space) <br>
 
==Legendary Dwarves==
 
5 Miners<br>
 
4 Engravers<br>
 
1 Mason <br>
 
2 Woodcrafters <br>
 
1 Bonecarver (dead, sigh) <br>
 
1 Clothier <br>
 
1 Furnace Operator <br>
 
1 Gem Setter <br>
 
1 Stonecrafter <br>
 
1 Record Keeper/Appraiser (dual legendary) <br>
 
 
 
==Post Script==
 
Lag caused by over 200 dwarves plus my inability to effectively micromanage so many led to some painful mistakes and a desire to start over with a smaller maximum population to speed play.  However, I did first manage to demonstrate that Operation: Orange Roughy was in fact a plausible goal in my test run (completed at the cost of dwarven lives right at the end).  I will return to this concept after another (quite different) game or two.
 
 
(Pictures coming in the near future - I want to do some editing work).
 

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