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{{archive|*[[User_talk:Briess/archive1|archive 1]]
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== Extension request ==
*[[User_talk:Briess/archive2|archive 2]]
 
*[[User_talk:Briess/archive3|archive 3]]
 
*[[User_talk:Briess/archive4|archive 4]]
 
*[[User_talk:Briess/archive5|archive 5]]
 
*[[User_talk:Briess/archive6|archive 6]]
 
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== Can't move [[:File:Fäden.png]] ==
 
  
It's used on [[cv:thread]], but I can't seem to move it to a better title. I think it's because of the <s>accent</s> umlaut - is there any way you can change its name manually in the database? ([[Wikipedia:mw:Manual:MoveBatch.php|This maintenance script]] should do the trick, but it requires a little setup and it might run into the same problem.) &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 19:17, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
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(mostly copied from [[User talk:senso]])
: I missed this. Where should this be moved to? I can give the script a try --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 20:35, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
 
::I was thinking something like [[:f:thread.png]] or [[:f:rope reed fiber thread.png]] would work. If not, I can always reupload it and delete the original (assuming that works). &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 20:52, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
 
::: Oops, that was my file. I guess i should take it as reminder to label files something more accessible when they're intended for public use and not just my own stuff. --[[User:Larix|Larix]] ([[User talk:Larix|talk]]) 14:31, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 
::: Can't get the move to work. I'll have to play with the DB if I want to do that. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 03:39, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 
:::: Might be because I already moved it. :) (Can't remember where at the moment, but it's on [[thread]]). &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 03:44, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 
::::: Derp. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 05:49, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 
  
== Announcements "NEW" icon ==
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A string manipulation extension would allow things to be dynamically created from raw files and other powerful templates. With the upcoming big change to creature structure in DF, something that pulls info directly from raw data would really help rework the creature pages. I've been looking through some extensions, and one of these would fit well (in order of preference)
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#http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MultiReplace
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#http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RegexParserFunctions
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#http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StringFunctions
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The first one is a replacement function that can preform multiple replacements in one call (and it supports regex). The second one is a straightforward regex engine, and the last one is a collection of string manipulations. For my suggested purpose just one of the three would be enough, but none of them completely covers the tasks the of others. So, if possible, having all of them would be best. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 21:35, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
  
Can you please add an ID attribute to the red "NEW" message in the sidebar, so I can make it hidden? Thanks {{User:Latias1290/Sig/src|13:20|March 23, 2014}}
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:Their functionality does overlap a lot. The differences are as follows:
:Removed it, since it's clearly not "new" anymore. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 15:55, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
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*Multireplace can preform multiple replacements with one call, which the second one cannot. It can evaluate regular expressions for the replacement.
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*RegexParserFunctions can preform a regex replacement. It can also be used for a regex search, which multireplace isn't meant for.
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:Multireplace would be better suited for a template that generates diagrams. Regexparserfunctions could do this by nesting the function call many times, which I don't think is a good idea.
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:Regexparserfunctions would be better suited for a template that pulls information from raw data files. Multireplace could do this by matching everything before and after the matchtext and cropping it, like so: '''(.*)(matchtext)(.*)=$2'''. However, to do this multireplace is effectively matching the entire page at once. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 22:50, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
  
== [[:File:Old0c3822.png]] ==
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::This is a possible alternative: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RegexFunctions [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 05:04, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
  
This file is missing, but is used on {{tl|old}} and has a history page: [https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=File:Old0c3822.png&action=history]. Any idea what happened to it? (Other files appear to be unaffected.) &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 20:16, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
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==Archive Subdomain problem==
:No idea. Going to rebuild images now then --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 20:30, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
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Sorry to bother, i sent an email to senso, but it seems that you are the new admin. Grats.
::And it's back after a rebuild --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 20:30, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
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Yesterday i was surfing the archive [http://archive.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Main_Page] and suddendly it started to redirect to a french blog. Now it redirect to the main wiki. (Actually every subdomain redirects to the main wiki, also invalid ones) Can you bring it back? I know that it's rarely used, but sometimes it's funny to build 2D nostalgia fortresses. --[[User:Tempus|Tempus]] 09:13, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
::Rebuilding images is now a cronjob that will run every 30 minutes on dfaux1 as well now --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 20:32, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
 
  
== Creature token page seems to be causing your server trouble ==
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== Contact info? ==
  
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Creature_token comes up with a completely blank (like, about:blank blank) for me and pretty much everyone else I've asked about it. I can get the contents by pulling them from google's cache, but the site itself seems to refuse to let you load it. From experience as a webhost, this generally means that the page has encountered a critical error in its scripting, which it will dump in the error log instead of reporting to the user, for security reasons. I would suggest scouring your error logs. Don't know why this particular page is causing issues. [[Special:Contributions/74.67.17.69|74.67.17.69]] 07:23, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
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Thanks for stepping up. Are you going to have an e-mail contact addy, for less public communication? --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 17:31, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
  
Probably a rendering time issue - the other versions load fine, but v0.31 takes the longest (I'm pretty sure the v0.34 page is the largest). Using action=raw also works. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 10:43, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
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== Favicon ==
  
Okay, disabling AutoRedirect fixed this, so I'm currently disabling pieces of it to see what's causing the problem. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 19:41, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
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The favicon for the previous wiki seems not to have been copied over. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 18:36, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
  
It appears that the TitleIsAlwaysKnown is the problem, presumably because it takes a lot of time to render on a large page like [[creature token]]. Unfortunately, this is the hook that makes links and searching work. I'll try making the extension skip section links, since they account for most of the links in that article and don't need to be handled at all. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 19:48, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
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:http://web.archive.org/web/20071127071819/http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/favicon.ico [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 01:35, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
  
All right, that seems to have worked. The render time is back down to 1.2 seconds, which is pretty good for such a long page. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 20:11, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
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== You may want to watch this page ==
  
Awesome, glad I could help. [[Special:Contributions/2604:6000:FB03:4601:BE5F:F4FF:FE3B:6A61|2604:6000:FB03:4601:BE5F:F4FF:FE3B:6A61]] 16:04, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
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[[Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Spamreport]] [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 01:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
  
== MWExceptions ==
 
  
Greycat is having problems with editing (may be proxy-related again): http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=139510.0 &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 11:04, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
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== Short delay for new accounts? ==
  
== Bot is removing av template ==
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Some wikis have a policy of a short waiting period between the creation of a new user account and the ability to edit an article.  (On the main wiki, I believe this is 30 days.)  This delay achieves 3 things, but the only one I'm really concerned with is that it would ''seriously'' slow down bots and spammers.  As a side benefit, it also prevents confused newbies from editing before they have a feel for the wiki as a whole, and spontaneous, ill-considered or mean-spirited contributions from a variety of other less-than-serious sources, such as the occasional spur-of-the-moment vandal or the late-Saturday-night beer-goggled comedy writing team.  I think 1 week would be ample, but even a 48 or 72 hour period might slow the spam bots.  No editor who has a worthwhile contribution to make would resent 48 hours to consider their first effort.
  
[http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=DF2014:Puddingstone&diff=204589&oldid=203339 this edit is an example]. Just letting you know. [[User:Brightgalrs|Brightgalrs]] ([[User talk:Brightgalrs|talk]]) 19:39, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
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Just a thought.--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 02:09, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:And it's deleting the stonelookup template too. [http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=DF2014:Puddingstone&diff=204589&oldid=203339 example]. [[User:Brightgalrs|Brightgalrs]] ([[User talk:Brightgalrs|talk]]) 19:41, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 
::It looks like it searched for "<nowiki>{{quality|.*}}</nowiki>" when doing the "remove quality" step, which ended up matching way too much. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] ([[User talk:Quietust|talk]]) 21:45, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
 
:::Working on a way to revert those using the bot but it will take a bit. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 22:06, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
 
::::I'll get them. I've been meaning to find an excuse to use AWB here. Cheers [[User:Brightgalrs|Brightgalrs]] ([[User talk:Brightgalrs|talk]]) 19:47, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 
:::::Awesome. Thanks! --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 00:15, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 
  
== Server woes ==
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== IP numbers instead of sig? ==
  
I can't insert {{tl|DF2014 plants/trees}} into {{tl|DF2014 plants}}; the server times out/fails to respond each time I try.--[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 19:15, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
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When I was trying to use the standard <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> sig, IP numbers are coming up instead of the user/date. See [[Talk:Furniture Industry]].  Don't know what's up wi'dat. --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 06:39, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
: I'll take a look. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 22:05, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
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Is it possible you were logged out at the time? I enabled<br /> anonymous edits for at least a trial period earlier today...
:: I'm guessing this is because AutoRedirect takes more time to render links to pages that don't exist, since it checks every versioned namespace before determining that a page doesn't exist. I'm not sure how to fix this yet, but it seems to me that either disabling the additional namespace checks in the template namespace or only enabling them in the main namespace could work. Any better ideas? &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 01:25, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
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Okay, that must have been it - I had no notification that it wouldn't accept my edit, so... <br />
::: I think it makes sense to only have the checks happen in the main namespace. We can discuss more on github if you want. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 17:27, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
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Otoh, I, for one, do have a problem when a page gets edited by [[24.198.25.175]] - how do I respond on their talk page? More, don't some smaller ISP's still share IP numbers between users over time in the same area? So... who, exactly, made that edit? Everyone with that ISP?  Lastly, when keeping getting a feel for who is editing what, and their style, hard to mentally keep casual track of an IP addy.  Just one vote, but in this case, it's one of dissent.--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 18:30, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
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:Well, you da boss. You may want to make a general announcement, perhaps on the "current events" page? It's rather jarring to see IP's instead of user:names, and I would never have guessed that their :talk page would work - might want to mention that, too, for all the other ignorants out there. (Also, if I never "don't log in" again, I'll never see any response to the one IP edit I did make, right? 2 user pages for each editor w/ a user:name? And even more if they (don't) log in from different locations/IP's? hrmmm...)--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 08:42, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
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You're on 'er, yer honour. Sleeep gooood...--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 09:33, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
  
== Cannot confirm email address ==
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==leave==
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User AcpasNorol wants to leave the wiki (see edits). I think he was blocked before, are old spamaccounts still blocked?  --[[Special:Contributions/92.202.37.191|92.202.37.191]] 13:01, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
  
[http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=140530.0#msg5470497 It's been mentioned on the forum], and I thought I'd let you know here, since I see it too.
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==Personal==
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Thanks for cleaning up after me, including the formatting on the joining page. --[[User:The Architect|The Architect]]
  
When I went to the page to start the confirmation process, I was told the email had already been sent. After waiting quite a while without anything, I decided to ask for another email, and that's when I encountered this error:
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== Deletion Policy ==
  
:Dwarf Fortress Wiki could not send your confirmation mail. Please check your e-mail address for invalid characters.
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Redirects serve two purposes - links from other articles, and Searches. These fit under neither category, or none that also fit other policies (like singular/plural article names). And a lot depends on what links to them - since most of these were orphans (or effectively so, any reference only being a conversation re deletion) what are the odds of a search? <br />
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Re plurals - I guess on one hand once they're there, they might as well stay, but they do set a bad precedent, and they are serving no good purpose except as an undesirable crutch. <br />
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As far as "bizmuth bronze", that's a terrible precedent imo - do we start allowing any and every misspelled word to be "redirected"? If it's regional (armour/armor) or a common confusion (adamantium/adamantine) I support it 100%, but misspellings? Bleh. Remind me to make a redirect page for the metals iorn and steal, and sliver and goaled, among others. Double bleh.<br />
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[[Personality modding]] was someone's pet project that was never started beyond posting the (almost blank) page, and abandoned and forgotten by late '07, not updated until [[user:I2amroy]] copied/pasted the entirety of the personality page onto it without further comment.  It had no links except on 2 user pages, one where we were recently wondering "WTF ''IS'' this?", and another that's listed under "old forum links". Since the page itself was 2 years old, and has nothing that the original didn't... I think it's another that could get trimmed without loss, as the odds of anyone typing in "personality modding" are slim to none.<br />
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So my position is "Lose 'em all, no one will ever miss them, and it's a cleaner site without" - but that's my opinion - the final policy is up to you.--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 18:19, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
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.... Er, I really meant if you still disagree, I'm more than willing to continue discussing what<br /> the appropriate course of action should be over any editorial policies we may have on this wiki.
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Nah - I'm opinionated and vocal, but that's not the same as being always adamant in that opinion nor believing that means that I'm "right" (nor always spoiling for an argument/fight, some evidence to the contrary).  I've voiced my point and the reasons behind it, and I believe you've weighed that (Respect) - so if in your estimation it doesn't wash, that's all good by me. (In this case.) ;)  The policies are a collaboration as much as the content itself, and we've held to that process.  So, until next time... ;D  --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 23:57, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
  
:Mailer returned: Unknown error in PHP's mail() function.
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== graphic gone missing ==
  
Hopefully this will be an easy fix, sorry I don't have anything more specific for you to follow up on. —[[User:Lue|Lue]] ([[User talk:Lue|talk]]) 00:00, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
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[[File:Pumpsnc4.png]], from the [[pump]] page, is MIA. I have no idea why or how, she gone.--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 09:52, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks for the heads up. I'm aware of the issue but have not had the time yet to diagnose and fix - I am planning on spending some time with it this upcoming week. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 05:33, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 
  
Still broken. [[User:Atheistcanuck|Atheistcanuck]] ([[User talk:Atheistcanuck|talk]]) 21:38, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
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== Quote page - Karl's recent deletion constitutes vandalism ==
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Karl is continually removing any and every quote I add to the quote page while leaving alone anything added by anyone else. Ie, he's clearly attacking me rather than trying to improve the quote page.  This behavior is strikingly aberrant especially because he seems to be in favor of keeping any other quote no matter how bad. 
  
== Adventure mode redirect ==
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I've acted in good faith to improve the quote page, and am trying to participate in a dialog about the other deleted quotes which I honestly don't feel belong on the page on their own merits.  He's judging quotes i've added solely on the basis that I added them.  He's also deleted other quotes i've added previously, and appends his recent changes summary with smilie faces as if he thinks he's being funny.  This amounts to vandalism pure and simple.  Needless to say, this is unacceptable behavior.
  
For some reason [[adventure mode]] redirects to the 0.34.11 adventurer mode page, so I went to see if I could change this. Apparently, it contains a redirect to [[adventurer mode]], which redirects to the DF2014 page. I'm not quite sure what's going on here, so I thought I should bring this up. It's perhaps related to why the [[adventure mode]] links in [[DF2014:Adventure mode quick start]] are red, which is why I was looking into it in the first place. —[[User:Lue|Lue]] ([[User talk:Lue|talk]]) 23:07, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
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--[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 16:29, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
:This should be fixed now. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 01:12, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 
  
== BriessBot ==
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Addendum: My attempts to talk with him about it on his talk page caused him to merely delete my text with no response.  I hate to ask it, but i'm asking for administrative action - he's clearly incapable of separating personal from substantative differences.  --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 16:31, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
  
Something is fishy with your unrating script. http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=DF2014:Dolomite&diff=204130&oldid=202335 [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] ([[User talk:VengefulDonut|talk]]) 22:07, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
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The quote I removed was based on the way you remove them, they were not grade-A funny quote. A taste of your own Medicine. You judge quote based on your biased opinion, saying they need to be funny, which is not the case, it's written nowhere on the wiki. You try to impose your own twisted sense of humor on this wiki. The fact no one cares about the quote make it hard to add them back, even if me and corona wanted to have some back, you opposed your veto, saying it was hardly a consensus.  
: Derp. I'll have to look into fixing this. Although it may be easier to just fix it manually? Oh never mind there are A BAZILLION PAGES. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 17:23, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
 
  
== Missing image ==
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You are by the way really condescending vs me and corona, talking about whining and all, did it ever occur to you that humor might be a personal taste ?
  
[[:File:Seed0volcano.png]] (reported at [[Talk:Seed archive]]). &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 19:17, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
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Oh, and by the way, it's unnecessary to copy/paste your rant on multiple page. --[[User:Karl|Karl]] 16:44, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
  
== Image brokenness ==
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:As much as i hate to have a discussion with you on someone else's talk page
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:First, the discussions, while on related issues, served different purposes.  Namely a referendum on the quotes talk page on those quotes versus talking with an administrator about the appropriateness of particular editing behavior.
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:Second, you're applying a different standard to quotes I've added than to other quotes on that page, which means you're targetting them because I've added them.  Ie, exactly what I've said above.  I doubt anything which I add you would ever consider grade-A funny, solely because i've added it.
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:Third, they certainly aren't quotes crafted by me - i've merely noticed them and decided they should be added.  They deserve to be judged on their own merits.  You're not hurting me by removing them because I added them, you're hurting the page, and you're penalizing the people whose material it was originally.
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:--[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 16:49, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
  
Back in 2012, DrSazar added the poorly-named [http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/File:Sperm.jpg [File:Sperm.jpg], a photograph of a sperm whale. At some point after May 2013 the photograph [http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=DF2014:Sperm_whale&oldid=203603 changed into an image of actual sperm], presumably drawn from wikimedia commons. The wiki software shouldn't be losing images, or replacing local images with reference images. It's not the only image that [http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Thread seems to be missing], either.--[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 16:05, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
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::This is stupid and childish. I suggest the two of you cease contact and stay away from the quote page. --[[User:Iban|Iban]] 07:20, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
  
:[http://dwarffortresswiki.org/images/c/c7/Sperm.jpg Sperm.jpg] is still on the servers (as is its thumbnail). [http://dwarffortresswiki.org/images/2/23/Dyed_thread.png Dyed_thread.png] is also on the servers, but its thumbnail appears to be missing. I'll try rebuilding the image table to see if that fixes anything. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 16:20, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
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== Number of regex evaluations allowed per page ==
::Dyed_thread.png has been fixed. I'm still not sure what's wrong with Sperm.jpg - it's stored on the server, but Mediawiki doesn't seem to be recognizing it. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 16:28, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 
:::Mediawiki Commons has a history of being entirely dumb. I moved the page; I think it's possible that busting the thumbnails could theoretically fix it, but I'm not sure. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 03:40, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
 
  
== Cloning the wiki ==
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The number-of-functions-per-page parameter in the regex parser functions extension defaults to 10. Limiting it to a small number isn't warranted since computation time is based more on the complexity of the expressions involved rather than the quantity. A higher limit would allow [[template:diagram]] to be used more than three times on a single page. I've compared the serve time of these two pages: [[User:VengefulDonut/g|a]] [[User:VengefulDonut/r|b]], and found the difference was usually about 0.003 seconds. Based on this, I don't think its use is dangerous. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 17:38, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
  
Hi Briess! lethosor directed me here from IRC.
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:Hmm. If the ceiling is a few hundred, we probably won't bump into it. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 13:02, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
  
Making the wiki available offline has been discussed before by many different people. [http://sebsauvage.net/wiki/doku.php?id=df_portable_wiki Some even manage] something almost useful. You've helped the situation by making the XML dumps available, however so much information in the wiki is locked behind templates that depend on custom PHP extensions to expand properly. I want to pick up this torch and produce something usable and useful for everyone.
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::When you were testing [[template:diagram]], the limit you bumped into was the post-expand include size limit for templates. Templates are not allowed to generate more than 2MB of data on a single page. Since trying to display 2MB of data in one article is a bad idea anyway, this limit is very reasonable. If you want to see the include size, serve time, and other properties of an article, they get added as comments the page's html source when served. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 14:00, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
  
My plan is simple.
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== Cannot add new accounts ==
  
# Massage the DF2014 namespace into a set of static HTML documents
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The wiki will not allow new accounts to be created as the picture thing seems to be set up wrong
# Bundle these documents in [http://kapeli.com/docsets the docset format]
 
# Release the docset in [http://kapeli.com/dash Dash] on OSX and [zealdocs.org Zeal] on Windows and Linux.
 
  
Dash/Zeal provide fast instant search and they're designed for searching through sets of documents already.
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<pre>
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To help protect against automated account creation, please type the two words you see in the box below:
  
Step 1 is where all the work takes place of course. I want to do it in a way that is as light on the existing infrastructure as possible. Using the [http://dwarffortresswiki.org/api.php wiki's API] and the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Expandtemplates action:expandtemplates] feature, I can expand the XML dump into rendered HTML. But this is essentially scraping the wiki, which isn't good.
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This reCAPTCHA key isn't authorized for the given domain. More info </pre>
  
Instead, I would like to setup my own instance of the wiki and run all the processing locally.
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Please fix, I would like to set up and account versus being just an IP
  
'''So my question for you is''', can you kindly give the assets needed to setup a clone of the wiki? AFAIK, all I need to make a facsimile of the wiki is:
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:I found this other site "http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/" by googleing "Briess contact wiki" which looks very simular, and reCAPTCHA works on. That .net site did let me make an account and post the above message. Then it showed up on the .com site, and then the .com site let me log in. [[User:Larek|Larek]] 00:33, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
  
# the custom CSS theme
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::Well I still can't post on the .com site as each post seems to require the annoying reCAPTCHA thing (which doesn't work). But any thing I put on that other .net site, shows up on the orginal .com one very quickly. [[User:Larek|Larek]] 00:37, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
# a list of extensions you have installed (and their source if necessary)
 
# anything else I don't know about that affects the content generation
 
  
I noticed that some of the custom extensions are available [https://github.com/DF-Wiki on github], but is that all of them?
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:::Briess asked, The .com site is the First (and Second) hit on google when searching for "dwarven fortress wiki"  which is http://dwarf.lendemaindeveille.com And yes I know that its "Dwarf Fortress" not "Dwarven Fortress", is just that when I speak to others about DF "Dwarven" is usally said since it is Dwarfs that build that Fortress.
  
Cheers, [[User:Rmblr|Rmblr]] ([[User talk:Rmblr|talk]])
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::::Well I don't know what you have access to, and how lowlevel you can get on the webserver. But a Robots.txt that prevents google from indexing the .com site would fix my issue.
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::::I can't find any trace of a 301 redirect on the .com site through IE6 or Netscpe. Also redirect checking tool http://www.internetofficer.com/seo-tool/redirect-check/ seems to think there is not redirect either. Hope this helps. [[User:Larek|Larek]] 15:17, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
  
edit: - I forgot to mention images. I plan to support an image-less version of the docset at first that will load the images opportunistically if the internet is available. Eventually, if you don't mind, I'll fetch images in bulk from the wiki (respecting the cache and expiry headers of course).
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== Interwiki links to russian DF wiki ==
  
Briess - I was thinking of putting some of the settings we use on Github, like WMF's [http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php InitialiseSettings.php]. Thoughts? &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 20:40, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
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We previously had the ability to create interwiki links to the corresponding page on the Russian DF wiki. It seems that this functionality has been broken. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 06:15, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
  
Rmblr - what custom CSS theme are you referring to? Aside from [[Mediawiki:Common.css]], I don't believe we've made any modifications to the Vector theme. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 20:42, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
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:The russian wiki is at http://www.dfwk.ru/ [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 14:01, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
  
Lethosor - I assumed you were using some custom CSS to display things like ASCII tiles, stone infoboxes, etc. Is that not the case? [[User:Rmblr|Rmblr]] ([[User talk:Rmblr|talk]])
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== Custom namespace on the wiki for DF mods? ==
:Oh. If you're referring to diagrams, you can find the relevant CSS in the [https://github.com/DF-Wiki/DFDiagram/blob/master/modules/ext.DFDiagram.css DFDiagram extension] (they're converted into &lt;canvas> elements on the client side by default, but you can disable that in your [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-dfdiagram|preferences]] or simply by parsing the wikitext, which should generate a HTML table instead). Other than that, most CSS is stored in templates (although it can be several levels down - infoboxes use {{tl|infoheader}}, {{tl|infocell}}, etc.). &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 16:38, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
 
  
: That's reasonable to me. Let's take discussion of what to do for this to the github issues tracker. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 17:50, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
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I'm one of the people working on the [http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=46472.0 Ark Project], a collaborative DF mod.  So far we've been using a [[User_talk:Lancensis|user talk page]] on the DF wiki for planning purposes, but we were thinking it'd be nice if there were a [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Using_custom_namespaces custom namespace] called "Mod" on the wiki.  This would also help clean up the problem with [[:Category:Mods|mod pages in the Main namespace.]]
  
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As an aside, it might also be helpful to have a "Utility" namespace for [[Utilities|utilities]], which are in the same boat as mods.
  
== Email problems ==
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I noticed the DF wiki already has custom namespaces for bloodline games, so hopefully this isn't too much to ask.  Thanks!
  
Ohey, New here. Made an account yesterday, and inserted my email adress where it belonged, and then the wiki returned this:
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Oh, and apologies for contacting you via both this and a PM. I sent the PM and then noticed you hadn't logged onto B12 forums in a while, so I didn't know if you'd get it.
Error sending mail: Unknown error in PHP's mail() function.
 
Same happened for my other email account... Any ideas?
 
[[User:Su8perkillr|Su8perkillr]] ([[User talk:Su8perkillr|talk]]) 14:33, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
 
  
:Email features are currently broken ([[#Cannot_confirm_email_address|see above]]). &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 16:50, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
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--[[User:Footkerchief|Footkerchief]] 21:24, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
  
Ah, sorry for my blindness... I thought I saw no such thread above. Thanks though! [[User:Su8perkillr|Su8perkillr]] ([[User talk:Su8perkillr|talk]]) 20:02, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks a ton!  This'll be really helpful. One thing though: the new namespaces don't seem to have [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Subpages subpages] enabled, and a lot of the people currently hosting mods on their talk pages are using subpages. I know people can switch to using categories instead (we may do this), but it's something to consider. Also, this is pure irrelevant nitpicking, but namespace names usually use the singular.
::No worries. I need to fix it but haven't had time to work on it recently. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 18:36, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 
  
== Error on page; image missing ==
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--[[User:Footkerchief|Footkerchief]] 21:08, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
  
The page "http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Pasture" is generating the following error, towards the top of the page ...
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Awesome, thanks!
  
''Error creating thumbnail: convert: unable to open image `/var/www/dfwiki/images/6/62/Roach.png': No such file or directory @ error/blob.c/OpenBlob/2638.
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--[[User:Footkerchief|Footkerchief]] 21:45, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
convert: unable to open file `/var/www/dfwiki/images/6/62/Roach.png' @ error/png.c/ReadPNGImage/3667.
 
convert: no images defined `/tmp/transform_3d58c9a26907-1.png' @ error/convert.c/ConvertImageCommand/3044.''
 
-- Should be fixed. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 19:09, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 
  
== Password reset ==
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== Could you mark me autoconfirmed? ==
  
Sorry for the inconvenience - I've lost the password to my account [[User:FangXianfu|FangXianfu]]. Hopefully you have an email address on record for me & I still have access to it - most of them redirect to fang dot xianfu at gmail dot com, where you can reach me if you need to. Thanks --[[Special:Contributions/92.28.199.77|92.28.199.77]] 10:55, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
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Hey, I don't know what the rule is for this, but if I'm not autoconfirmed when you see this, can you mark me as that?  The captcha is really annoying when I'm trying to develop the [[Dwarf_Fortress_2010]] page. Thanks! [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 22:25, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
  
:I sent a new password to an email at ironicorbit.org. If that doesn't work, I can try the email above or send it to your account on the forums (Xinael?). &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 15:28, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
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== Vandal ==
:: Note to self: really really really really badly need to fix the email services --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 03:42, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 
  
== Can't upload files  ==
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[[User:173.19.42.186|This guy]] has been adding trash to a bunch of the creature pages. [[User:Quietust|Quietust]] warned him already on his [[User_talk:173.19.42.186|talk page]] for unconstructive edits to [[Scamps]] (one of these edits were undone by [[Special:Contributions/173.19.42.186|you yourself]]), but he continues to make edits to the [[gremlin]] page. ---[[User:Iban|Iban]] 11:08, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
I wanted to upload an image about picking bioms for the Quickstart page, but I’m not allowed to. At the time my account was created, the site engine said that it cannot send me a confirmation email because of mail() function. Here’s the image I wanted to add, please use: http://i.imgur.com/0vSEzyZ.png .
 
--[[User:Tijagi|Tijagi]] ([[User talk:Tijagi|talk]]) 06:30, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
 
  
== Dwarf Fortress French wiki ==
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== Can I have admin rights? ==
  
Hello Briess,  
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Hey.  I'm working on developing wiki pages for the new version of DF.  These pages are listed [[:Category:Dwarf_Fortress_2010|here]].  There is a lot to do for this and most people probably won't be too interested for a couple weeks after release.  I'm hoping to have something in place for structure, and also for new users before release.  In doing so I'm trying to rearrange some of the pages I've made and make them more useful.  I've done a few moves but I'm going to have a lot of move over redirects to do at some point and I need admin rights to make sure I clean up the mess I make.  I've been admin on a dozen or so wikis, and effectively ran [http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki sporewiki] for months myself.  If you give me admin rights you can feel free to monitor all my actions to make sure everything is kosher.  I just hate having to bother someone else to fix tiny things.  Thanks! [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 17:11, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
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:Just as a side comment, it's usually been my observation (from many different places) that directly asking for admin rights is a really good way to ensure that the answer will be "no", especially for somebody who only registered on the wiki 1 week ago, but that's just me. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 21:32, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
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::I suppose on a forum or site where admin matters, but on wikis my experience is that if people have a reasonable use for the tools and don't look like they intend to screw anything up, then who cares?  But then again, that's only because everything is able to be undone so it's a zero risk situation.  I don't know why people would want to make a wiki and then restrict people who seem helpful from editing it easily, kinda counter-productive imo. [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 03:01, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
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:::I think Admin is the wrong word. These kinds of people are janitors or managers or something. Admins are people who also manage users, sometime you don't want a person to have access to. --[[User:Iban|Iban]] 03:16, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
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::::Depends what environment you are familiar with.  On Mediawiki-based wikis (Wikipedia for example) the phrase "Admin" often refers to the user group that has a few powers like deleting pages, blocking users, protecting pages, editing system messages, because these are the default for the sysop group.  I really only have a desire to use the deleting pages power, but there is a lot of opportunity to work on the system messages here as well.  I posted this hear because even though the average person doesn't know that admin = person with a couple extra powers on a wiki, I assumed Briess (who is a bureaucrat) would know.  Admin is in Media-Wiki terminology correct, the person who manages users is a bureaucrat on wikis. [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 06:05, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
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:::::Wouldn't it be less problematic to just create Category:Deletion_requests or something?  Oh, we already have that at [[:Category:Deletion]].  I don't know if Briess knows about it though. --[[User:Footkerchief|Footkerchief]] 06:17, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
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::::::Well I don't see any reason why it's problematic to just hit the button on the user rights page.  Just because some people seem to think that admin on a wiki should be like a reward system instead of a set of tools doesn't mean that's the right thing to do.  Especially when the two bureaucrats aren't even on here most days (or so it seems). [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 08:25, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
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:::::::I'm not inclined to make a decision about this just yet, give me a day or two to mull over it.  If you want to continue discussing this, please do by all means.  Also, I am aware of the deletion request page, and actually pruned it this last week. :) --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 10:36, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
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::::::::Sounds good, just remember that all sysop actions are revertible as well, as well as the decision to make someone a sysop.  You can always just mark deletion and then visit [http://dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=Mason11987&page=&year=&month=-1 this page] once a day to make sure I wasn't deleting useful things. Most of what I intend to delete will be my own pages anyway, or redirect pages.  I read your comment on your deletion policy on albedo's talk page and that's pretty much my philosophy as well.  [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 18:42, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
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::::::::Saw the wiki admin page and your note.  Sounds reasonable to me.  I'll fill one out when I get the chance (work has been VERY busy recently). [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 11:32, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
  
Do you know who runs the French DW wiki ? It seems impossible to register for that site ( trying to register gets this error : " Fatal error: Call to a member function xpath() on a non-object in /home/librejeu/dwarffortress/wiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit/Asirra.class.php on line 52 " )  and my login from this wiki doesn't work there .
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== Wİkimedia Commons ==
  
We've got a Facebook group going and some people want to contribute to that site .
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I've been thinking that it would be nice to add some photos to the wiki, such as of trees, stones and animals, for example. Wikimedia commons would make an excellent source, since from what I gather the whole point of it is that the images are meant to be freely reused. However, apparently third party wikis such as this one can link to commons directly, if it's enabled. (see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgForeignFileRepos and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgUseInstantCommons) So is there any chance we could get that enabled? (Excuse me if this is already enabled, but unless I am mistaken it is not.)--[[User:Ar-Pharazon|Ar-Pharazon]] 01:07, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
  
== wiki dump available? ==
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== Help with Bloodline Games ==
  
hey i have an old wiki dump of dwarf fortress that i use through WikiTaxi, was trying to find the dump database to get a newer version but couldn't locate it
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I've started a couple of games ([[User:Melek|see my user page]]) but although lots of people seem interested from various discussion pages I'm guessing they're not watching that page to see that games are now being hosted. Is there any way for me to send emails to these interested parties or have someone who already has access to their emails to do it for me? I would like to get these games on the go and alot of people are interested on the Wiki without knowing about them! -- [[User:Melek|Melek]] 06:35, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
  
== Confirmation email won't send ==
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== deletion not gone ==
  
Hi Briess, my account won't send a confirmation email, says something about a PHP error. I rechecked the email address, but it seems to be correct.
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Briess (Talk | contribs) deleted "File:Fireman.jpg"
Thanks, KT
 
  
== Main page interwiki ==
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And yet, it's still there... http://dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/File:Fireman.jpg
  
Could we get these interwiki link added to the main page?
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(And you really should delete some of the older topics on this page. Sheesh.)    ; ) <br />
* [http://wikiwiki.jp/dwarffort/ jp]
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--[[Special:Contributions/75.62.155.145|75.62.155.145]] 09:44, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
* [http://pl.dwarffortress.wikia.com/ pl]
 
* [http://español.dwarf-fortress.info/wiki es]
 
[[User:Brightgalrs|Brightgalrs]] ([[User talk:Brightgalrs|talk]]) 00:02, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
 
  
== Image problems ==
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== Cannot login ==
  
[http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Main_Page/gallery Various images on the wiki] have again gone missing.--[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 16:41, 10 September 2017 (UTC)|
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I can't login. :( bombcar
:Looking now. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 00:43, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 
::This has been resolved. Thanks for the heads up! --[[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 01:40, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 
:::Now it affects [http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Tileset_repository Tileset repository] (& few other related, like [http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Graphics_set_repository Graphics set repository]). --[[User:McNattfarinn|McNattfarinn]] ([[User talk:McNattfarinn|talk]]) 08:53, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Business Inquiry ==
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== Policy on Labour/Labor, etc ==
  
Hello Briess,
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Some clever rabbit just took it upon himself to edit about 60 pages, changing every British-spelled word he could find to American spelling ( [[Special:Contributions/Thromordyn]] ). I "undid" all the colorful/colourful and favourite/favorite changes, but most are labor/labour and armour/armor - and that is less clear, so I wanted a policy call.
  
I am trying to find a good way to get in touch with you, preferably through email so that I can talk to you about a business opportunity with the wiki. Please let me know the best way to get in touch with you.
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The word "labor" only appears in indirect references within the game itself (such as in engravings, "The dwarves are laboring"), [[sphere]]s, and an obscure crime ("Conspiracy to Slow Labor") according to the [[string dump]], and in the Article title on this wiki - nowhere else.
  
Thanks
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The term "armor" is a harder sell, as it's actually used in a couple places in the game interface ("armorsmith", the 3 pieces of torso protection, and "{{k|v}}iew/preference/soldiering: "armor level"), but it could still fall under the same policy/philosophy.''
  
== Getting In Touch ==
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Do we want to discourage editing of all references of [[labour]] to [[labor]] and [[armour]] to [[armor]], or encourage a single-minded "correct" spelling of that word?  Happy to do the undos if the former, just as happy to leave them be if the policy is the latter. (Imo so long as it's consistent on a given page either spelling should be perfectly acceptable and not changed, even within links to articles and despite the main article title, but that's just me.)''--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 04:41, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
  
Hi Briess,
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== Thumbnail generator is not working ==
  
I am trying to get in touch with you regarding a few questions I have about the wiki. Can you please email me back at mbarr@sovrn.com?
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On the main page, I get:
  
Looking forward to speaking with you!
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Error creating thumbnail: /usr/bin/convert: Unrecognized option (-thumbnail).
  
Thank you,
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--[[User:Bombcar|Bombcar]] 05:11, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Melissa
 
  
== Hi Briess, I have a question about a References/Sources Page for DF Modders (Real Quick Question) ==
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== Interwiki ==
  
I'm creating a Tileset for DF and I'm now trying to go back and sight references for tilesets that I pulled tiles/content from. I thought that it might be a cool idea if there was a hosted page on the WIKI were DF modifications could be listed as "Free for Use, just sight Author" or "Proprietary: DON'T USE MY WORK w/o permission". Maybe with an included link to the latest version of the mod. I wouldn't mind doing the leg work on this if its something your on board with. Please let me. Thanks.
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The interwiki link to the russian wiki is pointing to the wrong domain. The correct one is http://www.dfwk.ru.[[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 18:01, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
  
-Dragonmaster13
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== N00b! ==
  
== Please use HTTPS ==
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So... whassup, boss?  If I have questions, do I ask here, or is there somewhere better? (And you'll want my e-mail.) Got a page you recommend to learn the behind-the-scenes code? And what's the story with the "new wiki engine" on the Home Page? Is that the Wagn engine you were talking about? (Would it be better to wait and use that with the new version, once that gets released? That could act as a filter for old information.) --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 16:35, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
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:Speaking of "oopsies", I dropped a typo on my e-mail addy in my Wagn account, so I need that deleted ("Albedo") so I can re-apply correctly. thnx (And what do you think of a central page here for Wagn Q&A?) --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 07:30, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
  
Hey Briess.
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== Wagn ==
  
Could you please set up a TLS certificate for the forum?
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What are the advantages of Wagn? My first impression of the thing is a less powerful and less attractive version of mediawiki. Most of the documentation I've found on it so far reads like sales copy. I will look into it more, but right now my opinion is that this is a Bad Idea. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 20:12, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
  
I don't like seeing NOT SECURE everytime I visit the forum.
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:Err, I broke the wagn :/ [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 20:15, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
  
* Is there any update on this? [[User:Solters|Solters]] ([[User talk:Solters|talk]]) 05:21, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 
  
::Assuming you mean the wiki and not the forum, the wiki has HTTPS enabled as of this June. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 00:03, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
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== [[Dwarf Fortress Wiki:Versions]] ==
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Based on your comments and input on the administration requests pages I thought you might be interested in this kind of discussion.  Please bring in your comments on this page and on it's talk page and let everyone know what you think. Thanks! [[User:Mason11987|Mason11987]] 20:46, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
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:Could you drop by and comment on "consensus" again? [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Dwarf_Fortress_Wiki_talk:Versions#Consensus.3F] [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]])</sup> 00:31, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
  
== Wondering if I can have a permission to translate this wiki into Korean ==
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== Thank you ==
  
There are Russian, French, and I've seen a dwarf asking for a Japanese in Talk:Main_Page(but seems like no one has replied yet)
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For your help on the Request for Adminship page.  Sorry for having "caused" it, anyways, but I'm sorry, I'm not gonna hide who I prefer to be just for politics.  Anyways, I just wanted to offer my thanks to you for that, whether I win or lose. --[[User:Aescula|Aescula]] 00:09, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
There might be some limitations since I don't understand 100% about some mods and minecart logics and I'm not an expert translator, but I wish I could do this work. :9
 
Thanks. - bluebird9281.
 
  
== Add a link to Twitch Dwarf Fortress section? ==
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== "Current version" namespace? ==
  
Can we add a link somewhere to the DF section of Twitch?
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I don't know if this is really what most people were thinking of doing.  I think most people were supporting using "Main" as the namespace for the up to date articles. [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]])</sup> 00:37, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
  
[[User:F00z|F00z]] ([[User talk:F00z|talk]]) 21:44, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
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:Could things be moved en masse from "current version" to "main"?  I was thinking the process (for each page) would be:
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:*Move article to 40d namespace (now there is a redirect, which is helpful for readers)
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:*Edit article to have a "version"-type template, which will auto-link to the 40d article, and do categories and everything as desired.
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:In this way users can always find the article they want at every point in the process.  doing moves to current version namespace, then back to main would break that w/double redirects, or broken redirects.  [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]])</sup> 00:48, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
  
:What link do you want? There are a lot of related links on the [[Main Page]], and I'm fine with adding one, but I don't know where you want the link to go. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 00:03, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
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Err..  that was complete overkill. Easily 2/3 of the wiki is going to be unaffected by the release. This means manually shifting the correct things from old to current is at least twice as much work as shifting the correct things from current to old. Also, [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=Special:DoubleRedirects&limit=5000&offset=0 this] [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 02:09, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
  
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The unaffected pages shouldn't have to be rewritten. Is it possible for you to just copy things? [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 02:14, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
  
Just something like https://www.twitch.tv/directory/game/Slaves%20to%20Armok%20II%3A%20Dwarf%20Fortress that would link to the game's section on Twitch. Figure it might help some discover live DF content.
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What about copying over the entire wiki and putting it on another subdomain? We can stick interwiki links in as necessary. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 02:20, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
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:Yeah, that's a ''good'' idea! (Because what we got now, just ain't right.)--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 07:26, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
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::It seemed to work fine back when we had the 2D version wiki (which currently exists only on archive.org, and in a somewhat incomplete form), so I don't see why it wouldn't have worked here as well. It'd also have the advantage that existing links between pages would continue to work - as it is, any page in the 40d namespace will be full of links to other pages in the '''main''' namespace, which will be completely wrong once DF 2010 actually arrives and the main namespace pages stop being redirects to 40d. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 14:03, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
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:::Archiving the wiki in that form greatly increases the server resources required to host the wiki. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 15:05, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
  
[[User:F00z|F00z]] ([[User talk:F00z|talk]])
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This isn't really relevant to things, but I think seeing this will help deepen your often displayed love for mediawiki: [[:Category:Creatures]]. :D [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 22:54, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
  
== Possibility to Translate the wiki? ==
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Is there any chance we can get an explanation of what is happening with regards to the namespace changes? Currently the Broken Redirects page is full of every page, but they're not actually broken.  I'm sure you're vividly aware of all this already, I'm just trying to figure out what I can be doing to help, but don't want to step on any toes. {{User:Syzgyn/Sig}} 17:05, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
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:While some of those are indeed glitches, a fair amount are actually broken talk page redirects which will be fixed once I set my bot loose on them. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 18:57, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
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::The count has now gone from 1841 down to 1028. However, the Recent Changes list seems to have become quite confused as a result of all of these redirect changes, listing wildly inaccurate "bytes added/removed" counts for various pages as if it's comparing to very old versions - it would seem that whatever method was used to originally move the pages into the 40d namespace has caused some residual database corruption. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 19:20, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
  
Hi Briess,
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== Fixing "Broken" pages ==
  
First of all, I'd like to congratulate you for this amazing work. this wiki is a reference for everyone!  
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So far, you've deleted a whole bunch of Broken pages which simply contained redirects to the 40d Talk namespace, but there's still a whole bunch of other Broken talk pages which contain actual data. If you're at all interested, I've got a wiki bot that could be used to rename all of those remaining pages (and optionally delete the redirects left behind). The bot itself is just a set of functions for interacting with MediaWiki (login, logout, load page, save page, move page, delete page) which get called by other scripts in whatever means is appropriate. I've used the bot on several other wikis and it works reasonably well - the is code hosted [http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/User:QuietBot here], on the wiki for which it was originally designed (what with being an admin who needed to do lots of bulk edits, moves, and deletes). With your approval, I'd be willing to run the bot myself on a separate wiki account; if not, you're free to do whatever you want with the code. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 17:49, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
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:Looks like I've run into a minor snag - this wiki seems to be configured to redirect on login (via [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRedirectOnLogin this setting]) rather than display the "Login successful" screen my bot expects, causing it to error out. Is there a way to disable that behavior for specific users (not sure if adding the user to the "Bots" usergroup will have that effect or not)? --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 19:16, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
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<s>If either of you are going to run something that will generate more than 400 or so log entries, can I suggest that you ''first'' temporarily disable all users editing rights? We're losing any record of what's being done while this is going on as these waves of "fixes" push that down off the Recent Changes page.</s> --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 20:36, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
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:'''SCIENCE!''' (thx!)--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 21:42, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
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It's chugging along quite nicely so far - I had to make a few fixes to the scripts so it'd work with this version of Mediawiki (some tags have extra attributes, some tags have attributes in different positions, and the Move result now appears in a different tag altogether), but it looks to be working now. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 21:47, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
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:All done - once [[Talk:Broken/40d\x3aMachine component]] is renamed (existing [[40d Talk:Machine component]] is in the way), all of the remaining "Talk:Broken/*" pages should consist entirely of redirects which can be safely deleted. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 22:08, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
  
I'm contacting you because I'd like to know if you would authorise me to translate this wiki? I'm a translator myself and I would love to work on it, of course, for free. I'm aware it is filled with lots of content over the years so it would be a long-term project.
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== [[Special:UncategorizedPages]] ==
  
My native language is Portuguese, but I could also translate to French and Spanish.
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Is there anyway you can include currentversion and 40d in this list? [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]])</sup> 00:31, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
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:Any idea on this? Thanks [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]])</sup> 02:19, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
  
Looking forward to hearing from you.
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== Wiki Glitch? ==
  
Best regards,
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Taking a brief look at [[Special:Statistics]], it claims that there are 1,210 edits in the Job queue, and that number doesn't seem to be decreasing, which seems a bit unusual - normally, anything in the job queue will be processed whenever somebody loads a page, causing the number to decrease to 0 fairly quickly. Either some jobs have gotten stuck in the queue (possibly as a result of the 40d namespace move), or the wiki's been configured to empty the job queue at an extremely low rate (which is how the KoL wiki behaves, but even there it only takes a few hours to process a thousand edits, while I'm pretty sure this one has been at 1,210 since at least yesterday). --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 19:27, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
  
Elio NETO
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== Re: Captcha ==
  
== Editing practice ==
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I suppose it was sort of silly of me to assume that confirmation worked the exact same way here as it does on Wikipedia. Admins there are able to give the auto-confirmation user right. Thanks for letting me know though. :) [[User:Emi|Emi]] 08:33, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
  
Hi, apologies if this is the wrong place to raise this, but I just reverted the four edits ([https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/Billy]) of [[User:Billy]] after getting an email that a page I (had forgotten I) was following had been edited. Some more forceful discouragement may be called for. [[User:Hv|Hv]] ([[User talk:Hv|talk]]) 16:05, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
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== Mod warning template necessary on pages in the Modification namespace? ==
:Thanks! Will deal with this. [[User:Briess|Briess]] ([[User talk:Briess|talk]]) 13:41, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 
  
== Want to translate the wiki Into Chinese ==
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[http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php?title=Modification:Ark_Project&curid=7866&diff=72952&oldid=62846 This revision] added the [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Template:Mod mod template] to the Ark Project page.  Unless this is absolutely necessary, I'd like to remove it, since the namespace already makes it obvious that it's a mod.  Guidance please? --[[User:Footkerchief|Footkerchief]] 02:12, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
  
Hi Briess,
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== On the topic of namespaces... ==
  
Thank for the amazing wiki!It is helpful for everyone!
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Do you have a database dump of the "archive" (v0.23.130.23a) wiki? It'd be nice to be able to import all of its pages into a "23a" namespace so that it isn't necessary to go digging through archive.org (which is also outright missing a bunch of pages). --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 23:29, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
  
I want to translate this wiki into Chinese. My native language is Chinese. I hope that more Chinese players will know and like this game. In this official wiki, I have not found an entry that can be translated into other languages. I want to move it to other wikis. We are serving and doing related translation work, hoping to get your approval and consent.
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== Contact Info ==
  
Finally, thank you for your contribution to the wiki.
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Is there someway we could get in a faster form of contact (maybe irc?) so we could test out the dynamic redirect system? I'm thinking I may want to spend a little more time in article.php though and maybe add some sort of magic word like variable that gets parsed before redirects. [[User:Emi|Emi]] 15:19, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
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:Ah, what server though, I lurk on freenode since that's what Wikipedia uses. Also this wiki is in need of either some talkback templates or maybe liquidthreads, though that's still a little not quite ready as I recall. [[User:Emi|Emi]] 00:59, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
  
Best regards,
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== Question about wiki dump ==
  
FengMaster
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Question for you here [http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=51064.0]. [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]])</sup> 20:12, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
  
== Translate  ==
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== Potential mod: Links within namespaces ==
  
Is there the possibility of adding alternative pages for other languages?
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With a bit of hacking, I may have come up with a way of vastly simplifying the process of isolating content between different versions of Dwarf Fortress:
That way we can translate into other languages ​​without creating new sites
 
  
== Replace Chinese Wiki with the new one on Fandom ==
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[code hidden - Edit to view]
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<!--
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includes/parser/parser.php
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- $nt = Title::newFromText( $this->mStripState->unstripNoWiki($link) );
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+ $nt = Title::newFromText( $this->mStripState->unstripNoWiki($link), getNamespaceLinkDest($this->mTitle->getNamespace()) );
  
Hello, Briess! The current Chinese wiki on wikidot (listed on main page) seems to be inactive for a long time, with its main page refers to the download link of v0.44.10, and most pages are never updated even earlier than that version. Recently we are working on a new site on Fandom ([https://dwarf-fortress.fandom.com/zh]), trying to keep everything up to date. Wish to replace the links on dwarffortresswiki's main page and the sidebar link (ILL) with the one at Fandom, so that more people may get to the right place and join us. [[User:Xjtu-blacksmith|xjtu-blacksmith 黑山雁]] ([[User talk:Xjtu-blacksmith|talk]]) 03:09, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
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includes/Title.php
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$m = array();
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if ( preg_match( $prefixRegexp, $dbkey, $m ) ) {
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$p = $m[1];
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- if ( $ns = $wgContLang->getNsIndex( $p ) ) {
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+ if (( $ns = $wgContLang->getNsIndex( $p ) ) !== false) {
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# Ordinary namespace
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$dbkey = $m[2];
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$this->mNamespace = $ns;
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-----
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# Do another namespace split...
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continue;
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}
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+ # Reset default namespace when dealing with interwiki links
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+ if ($firstPass)
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+ $this->mDefaultNamespace = $this->mNamespace = NS_MAIN;
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# If there's an initial colon after the interwiki, that also
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# resets the default namespace
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if ( $dbkey !== '' && $dbkey[0] == ':' ) {
  
:I've added the link of Fandom wiki site into main page myself. Wish to add ILL for Chinese wiki site (Fandom) one day. [[User:Xjtu-blacksmith|xjtu-blacksmith 黑山雁]] ([[User talk:Xjtu-blacksmith|talk]]) 06:02, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
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LocalSettings.php (at the end)
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// Fill this array with source namespace => default destination namespace mappings
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// For example, if 100/101 are 40d/40d Talk and 102/103 are 23a/23a Talk, the following would be used:
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// $wgNamespaceLinkDest = array(100 => 100, 101 => 100, 102 => 102, 103 => 102);
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$wgNamespaceLinkDest = array();
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// this probably ought to go in some other file, but I can't think of a good place to put it right now
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function getNamespaceLinkDest ($ns)
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{
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global $wgNamespaceLinkDest;
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if (isset($wgNamespaceLinkDest[$ns]))
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return $wgNamespaceLinkDest[$ns];
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else return NS_MAIN;
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}
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-->
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What this modification attempts to do is make it so that links from pages in specific namespaces will automatically point to specific other namespaces if no namespace is explicitly specified in the link; for example, putting <nowiki>[[Block]]</nowiki> in 23a/23a_Talk would treat it as [[23a:Block|Block]], while putting it in 40d/40d_Talk would make it act like [[40d:Block|Block]]; putting <nowiki>[[Block]]</nowiki> anywhere else would just treat it as [[Block]], and specifying <nowiki>[[40d:Block]]</nowiki> would '''always''' link to the 40d namespace. Explicitly linking to the global namespace would have to be done as <nowiki>[[ :Block|]]</nowiki> ('''with''' the space, otherwise it just strips it out), showing up as [[ :Block|Block]] - ideally, I'd prefer to just have it use <nowiki>[[:Block]]</nowiki>, but getting that to work would require some additional voodoo (since the code in parser.php strips out the colon early, and trying to get rid of that logic would probably break other things).
  
:We've migrated our site to '''huijiwiki''' recently, which is a China-based Wiki farm. I've changed the link on main page. [[User:Xjtu-blacksmith|xjtu-blacksmith 黑山雁]] ([[User talk:Xjtu-blacksmith|talk]]) 02:43, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
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I should warn that I've only done limited testing with this - templates and category links still look okay, interwiki links appear to work (at least after modifying Title.php), and a cursory check suggests that images are also working, but it's possible it'll break ParserFunctions. This is the first time I've even delved into the MediaWiki source code, so it's possible I've missed something important; if somebody more familiar with the inner workings of MediaWiki could chime in and examine my code changes, I'd probably be comfortable with them being used here. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 20:06, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
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:<small>I think the implementation of this would be fantastic btw [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]])</sup> 02:25, 25 March 2010 (UTC)</small>
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:While I think some sort of solution is needed, I think there are potentially better ways, like perhaps adding a template that would be used like <nowiki>{{l|Block}}</nowiki>. Ideally we should avoid modding the actual files where possible. Also, that set up would be just completely confusing to anyone new to editing this wiki if they had previous wiki experience. [[User:Emi|Emi]] 02:43, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
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::In fact, I actually just created a template that does this, <nowiki>{{l|Emi|somepage}}</nowiki> will result in {{l|Emi|somepage}} as we are currently in the User_talk namespace. The same code in the main space would make a link that looks like [[Emi]]. Also the template can be used like <nowiki>{{l|Emi}}</nowiki> which will make {{l|Emi}}. It may not be the most elegant solution, but I think it's a much more straight forward one. [[User:Emi|Emi]] 02:58, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
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:::The problem is that existing inter-article links in the "other" namespaces don't point to their intended targets. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 03:38, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
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::::I think the actual problem was a way to prevent people from having to write out large links. Quietust's bot can easily change the existing links. [[User:Emi|Emi]] 03:43, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
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::::In other words, the template solution would still require editing '''every article''' in order to fix the links, something that would have to be done anyways. '''If''' my patch turns out to work, the only things that'll be necessary will be a cache purge and link table regen, at which point every single article will be fixed. Of course, that's still a pretty big "if"... --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 03:44, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
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:::::Yes, it does require editing every article, but it's an easy thing for bots to do. The concern I have with your patch, is that it really affects the parser functions. You haven't tested it yet? If that's the case, I can toss it onto my test wiki to see what happens. [[User:Emi|Emi]] 03:56, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
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::::::I didn't say it '''did''' affect ParserFunctions, just that I was concerned that it '''might'''. After a few tests, it is apparent that my worries were unfounded - it works just fine with them. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 14:31, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
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:::::There aren't really THAT many pages.  About 3k in main, ~1k in 40d.  That's not really a big deal AFAIK. [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]])</sup> 11:43, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
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:::If the bot can fix all of the existing links, then why do we need either of these solutions? Do you want to keep moving things around like this in the future? (I hope not) [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 14:02, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
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::::That's assuming I '''can''' write a bot to fix all of the appropriate links correctly (and leave all of the other links unmodified)... --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 14:31, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
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:Just added another minor patch (which I've also submitted to [https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22940 WikiMedia bugzilla]) to Title.php to permit $wgNamespaceAliases to alias to the Main namespace (e.g. so "$wgNamespaceAliases['Main'] = NS_MAIN;" could be configured, permitting <nowiki>[[Main:ArticleName|]]</nowiki> instead of <nowiki>[[ :ArticleName|]]</nowiki>). --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 14:37, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
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::I just wrote a simple little python bot that can change the links, and discovered what our actual problem is going to be: scenarios like the link to "cheese" from [[40d:milk]]. If that link is changed to <nowiki>{{l|cheese}}</nowiki> (which basically has the same end-linking effect as your mod) then we run into a problem with redirects. For instance the mainspace article named Cheese redirects to cv:Cheese maker. For everything to work properly, we have to have a 40d:cheese page that redirects to 40d:Cheese maker. Obviously that creates double redirect problems, so the link on 40d:milk has to be changed to <nowiki>{{l|cheese|cheese maker}}</nowiki>. This poses a later problem; what if cheese gets its own article? This leaves us with two options: 1) Having crazy bots designed to take care of all of this for us. Or 2) Modding away the restriction on double redirects. Neither is a very good option. [[User:Emi|Emi]] 21:32, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
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I guess this discussion is over, then, given that we're apparently going with the {{tl|l}} template instead. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 18:06, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
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== "Fix/Improve this page" template? ==
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I know it's out there somewhere, but I'll be damned if I can find/remember it.  Needed for [[ 40d:Making a labyrinth]]. Thanks, --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 20:57, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
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:It's possible I'm projecting its existence into here from the RL wiki - meh. Thanks for looking.--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 20:07, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
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== Can't upload? ==
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For some reason I can upload images.  It says that the file is empty, but it most definitely isn't
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<pre>The file you uploaded seems to be empty. This might be due to a typo in the file name.
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Please check whether you really want to upload this file. </pre>
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Ideas? [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]])</sup> 13:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
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== And so it begins... ==
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..........................................................................................................................holy shit.--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 00:51, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
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We need to change "DF2010" to whatever '''we''' decide is the new version number asap. Every view of that reinforces something that we don't want to see perpetuated. If the new version is 0.31.01, then I'd suggest we lose the last, and go with ver = '''0.31''' - sound right??? (duplicate question in [[version]]).--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 18:17, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
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I'm still waiting on ToadyOne for an "official" / blessed nickname
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Yeah, just sent Three-toe a sim request. Might be 0.31.01 or just 31.01, or it might be 0.31 - wait'n see time. :P  --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 18:31, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
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Laughter is all we have left. I started going all Jack Baugher on that one, but then thought twice and stifled myself. (Speaking of which, I may do just that at some point - if you see me go over the line, '''please''' just delete/undo/whatever. I kneejerk sometimes at real morons, even if not approp.)  btw - I know SiteNotice is a bit long atm - beat those few Notices to New Editors into their sensibilities for the first few days, during the flood of over-enthusiasm and (understandable) ignorance, then reduce it back to something normal.--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 20:15, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
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====Site announcement====
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Most definitely ''not'' better, imo. See reasoning here: [[User_talk:Albedo#EmiBot_Notice]].--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 21:13, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
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== Plant Tokens ==
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Actually, those tokens all exist. They're in the executable, so it may be worthy to add a section detailing tokens still in the exe but may or may not be obselete. [[User:Dree12|Dree12]] 19:44, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
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== Admin ==
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Neat, Thanks :) [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]])</sup> 02:29, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
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== Default search categories wrong ==
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You seem to be a server administrator. The default search category selections doesn't include the new DF2010 namespace. There's a configuration variable you have to tweak in LocalSettings.php... I think.
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==Spoiler image==
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I was hoping to replace the current image on the main [[Template:Spoiler|spoiler template]] with one that would suit all versions - took a screenie of the intro video plus an ampersand and threw in some text from the new HFS big announcement. Figured in this case it'd be better to ask permission than be bold as it's a oft-used template. Largely an arbitrary move but I thought it would be nice. It has the exact same dimensions btw.
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[[File:Spoiler2010.png]]

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