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I definitely got a Baron at 55 population, 60 may be a bit high? --[[User:Nobu|Nobu]] 21:09, 10 April 2010 (UTC) | I definitely got a Baron at 55 population, 60 may be a bit high? --[[User:Nobu|Nobu]] 21:09, 10 April 2010 (UTC) | ||
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::::Being that the raws are simply files full of data that the program may or may not currently use, I don't think we can blindly accept what is in them. For instance, nobles are listed as 'lazy,' but laziness does not appear to be implemented, as my nobles still work.[[User:GhostDwemer|GhostDwemer]] 16:22, 22 November 2010 (UTC) | ::::Being that the raws are simply files full of data that the program may or may not currently use, I don't think we can blindly accept what is in them. For instance, nobles are listed as 'lazy,' but laziness does not appear to be implemented, as my nobles still work.[[User:GhostDwemer|GhostDwemer]] 16:22, 22 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::I can't confirm it solidly, but it looks like the job thing is still in effect. I had well in excess of the other requirements for years. -Anon | ::::I can't confirm it solidly, but it looks like the job thing is still in effect. I had well in excess of the other requirements for years. -Anon | ||
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Is the appointment of the Baron perhaps linked to the "Becoming the Capital" requirements listed in n -> c? Mine is listing 10000 architecture, 5000 road value, and 7500 offerings as "desired" amounts. I don't see anything about this screen in the wiki, but I am now pushing forward with road construction to see what happens when the targets are met. | Is the appointment of the Baron perhaps linked to the "Becoming the Capital" requirements listed in n -> c? Mine is listing 10000 architecture, 5000 road value, and 7500 offerings as "desired" amounts. I don't see anything about this screen in the wiki, but I am now pushing forward with road construction to see what happens when the targets are met. | ||
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:::: I can't say that for sure. I have one data point for 31.18: second year, liaison came, I had around 80 dwarfs & 20K in exports. No offer to elevate. I saw no mention of this bug in the changelog, so I'm guessing, no, it isn't fixed. [[User:GhostDwemer|GhostDwemer]] 18:21, 22 November 2010 (UTC) | :::: I can't say that for sure. I have one data point for 31.18: second year, liaison came, I had around 80 dwarfs & 20K in exports. No offer to elevate. I saw no mention of this bug in the changelog, so I'm guessing, no, it isn't fixed. [[User:GhostDwemer|GhostDwemer]] 18:21, 22 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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Just in case someone wants to check the validity of my addition about married Baron's/Baroness' spouses becoming consorts, here's some screenshots: | Just in case someone wants to check the validity of my addition about married Baron's/Baroness' spouses becoming consorts, here's some screenshots: | ||
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: [[Fun]]! More specifically, getting a Baron means you'll have a "chief" noble who doesn't change unless he gets killed. This lets you rig up a set of rooms just for that noble, taking advantage of materials preferences, making mandates from him less frequent and demands almost nonexistent. In my case, my baroness ended up becoming mayor, too - which meant even fewer mandates. It's really up to you - do you want to deal with one consistent but demanding noble, or one that changes every year or so? --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 05:54, 7 November 2010 (UTC) | : [[Fun]]! More specifically, getting a Baron means you'll have a "chief" noble who doesn't change unless he gets killed. This lets you rig up a set of rooms just for that noble, taking advantage of materials preferences, making mandates from him less frequent and demands almost nonexistent. In my case, my baroness ended up becoming mayor, too - which meant even fewer mandates. It's really up to you - do you want to deal with one consistent but demanding noble, or one that changes every year or so? --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 05:54, 7 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
: Nobles are not lazy. People take the raws as Revealed Truth. They are not. Many things may be in the raws, but waiting for actual implementation in code. I have a Count now, and he was the original expedition leader. He is still my best miner. Another dwarf was elected mayor, once, but since then, he has been mayor too. He likes billon and splints, so mandates are easy. I'd say choosing a baron is worth it, you can pick a leader who has likes that will be easy to cater too. As for the actual benefits of having a noble, I can't say. I think nobles make certain dwarfs mildly happy, but others mildly unhappy. For me, it is the coolth of having a noble, DF is about stories, and "Plucky commoner makes good, ennobled by king" is a good story. When my dwarfs elected him mayor and started making every second statue about him, it made me so happy. Good old Zefon. Too bad I made that fort before realizing that contaminant buildup utterly destroys FPS. Five frames per second is slightly less than enjoyable.[[User:GhostDwemer|GhostDwemer]] 16:22, 22 November 2010 (UTC) | : Nobles are not lazy. People take the raws as Revealed Truth. They are not. Many things may be in the raws, but waiting for actual implementation in code. I have a Count now, and he was the original expedition leader. He is still my best miner. Another dwarf was elected mayor, once, but since then, he has been mayor too. He likes billon and splints, so mandates are easy. I'd say choosing a baron is worth it, you can pick a leader who has likes that will be easy to cater too. As for the actual benefits of having a noble, I can't say. I think nobles make certain dwarfs mildly happy, but others mildly unhappy. For me, it is the coolth of having a noble, DF is about stories, and "Plucky commoner makes good, ennobled by king" is a good story. When my dwarfs elected him mayor and started making every second statue about him, it made me so happy. Good old Zefon. Too bad I made that fort before realizing that contaminant buildup utterly destroys FPS. Five frames per second is slightly less than enjoyable.[[User:GhostDwemer|GhostDwemer]] 16:22, 22 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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: Not only can I not confirm it, I can deny it - my mayor was quite pleased to recommend herself as head of the barony. Didn't have any real criterion for who to go for, at the time, and it turned out she's a good choice, anyways (likes brass and green glass ;P). Might've changed since v31.12, but I don't see why. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 20:59, 9 November 2010 (UTC) | : Not only can I not confirm it, I can deny it - my mayor was quite pleased to recommend herself as head of the barony. Didn't have any real criterion for who to go for, at the time, and it turned out she's a good choice, anyways (likes brass and green glass ;P). Might've changed since v31.12, but I don't see why. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 20:59, 9 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
:: Yes, I see what happened now. When you're perusing the list of dwarves, those serving various noble roles are listed with their lowercase titles, as "[[chief medical dwarf]]", "[[broker]]", "[[bookkeeper]]". But the [[mayor]]? He's not listed as with the title at all, but instead as his profession! (In my case, I think it was "[[Craftsdwarf]]".) That's why I didn't spot him right away. Wonder if this is considered a bug? -- [[User:Maunder|Maunder]] 04:18, 17 November 2010 (UTC) | :: Yes, I see what happened now. When you're perusing the list of dwarves, those serving various noble roles are listed with their lowercase titles, as "[[chief medical dwarf]]", "[[broker]]", "[[bookkeeper]]". But the [[mayor]]? He's not listed as with the title at all, but instead as his profession! (In my case, I think it was "[[Craftsdwarf]]".) That's why I didn't spot him right away. Wonder if this is considered a bug? -- [[User:Maunder|Maunder]] 04:18, 17 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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