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− | I just had this same issue. | + | I just had this same issue. DF2010. Guy got fey mood and also happens to be expedition leader. Dabbling grower. Skilled appraiser. Novice Organizer. Talented Record Keeper. He's set as expedition leader, manager, bookkeeper, and broker. Did what 0x517A5D said above, no dice. Hope this helps --[[User:W-dueck|w-dueck]] 04:24, 13 August 2010 (UTC) |
:Did you have a craftsdwarfs workshop, which is what dwarfs with no moodable skills take?--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 06:01, 13 August 2010 (UTC) | :Did you have a craftsdwarfs workshop, which is what dwarfs with no moodable skills take?--[[User:Kwieland|Kwieland]] 06:01, 13 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
I have this issue as well. high master armormsith, novice metal crafter, and adept pump operator. Obviously, he could take a metalsmith's forge, but he refuses to take either the conventional, or the magma versions. Just stands around at my well. [[User:Psychobones|Psychobones]] 00:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC) | I have this issue as well. high master armormsith, novice metal crafter, and adept pump operator. Obviously, he could take a metalsmith's forge, but he refuses to take either the conventional, or the magma versions. Just stands around at my well. [[User:Psychobones|Psychobones]] 00:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
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== Body Parts? == | == Body Parts? == | ||
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I'm getting *rock bars* and have everything in my fortress. Is this a confirmed bug? Never imported metal or metal bars in my fortress history and reading the above it may be related to *imported* metal bars or perhaps crafting metal bars from imported metal (which would explain why some can craft a metal bar and have it work, while others are locked to imported..) however can we get to the bottom of this? I'm not losing a man.. uh.. dwarf over the situation.. | I'm getting *rock bars* and have everything in my fortress. Is this a confirmed bug? Never imported metal or metal bars in my fortress history and reading the above it may be related to *imported* metal bars or perhaps crafting metal bars from imported metal (which would explain why some can craft a metal bar and have it work, while others are locked to imported..) however can we get to the bottom of this? I'm not losing a man.. uh.. dwarf over the situation.. | ||
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== Saving & reloading not changing mood type == | == Saving & reloading not changing mood type == | ||
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== Obsidian Farming SCIENCE == | == Obsidian Farming SCIENCE == | ||
Someone needs to figure out definitely whether obsidian farming allows more moods. | Someone needs to figure out definitely whether obsidian farming allows more moods. | ||
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== 'Nother Possible Bug == | == 'Nother Possible Bug == | ||
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I think it requires some clarification. Does the moody dwarf attack their victim, drag them to workshop and insta-kill them or insta-kill them on the place and then drag the corpse? --[[User:Someone-else|Someone-else]] 20:22, 23 May 2010 (UTC) | I think it requires some clarification. Does the moody dwarf attack their victim, drag them to workshop and insta-kill them or insta-kill them on the place and then drag the corpse? --[[User:Someone-else|Someone-else]] 20:22, 23 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
:In 40d, the moody dwarf would insta-kill his victim wherever he/she was standing (without the victim even being able to defend itself, much like slaughtering), then drag the corpse to the workshop. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 20:45, 23 May 2010 (UTC) | :In 40d, the moody dwarf would insta-kill his victim wherever he/she was standing (without the victim even being able to defend itself, much like slaughtering), then drag the corpse to the workshop. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 20:45, 23 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
− | :I also had a fell mood murder in | + | :I also had a fell mood murder in DF2010. It seems like it uses the same game mechanics as slaughtering (instant-kill without combat mechanics). --18:46, 5 July 2010 (UTC) |
::I just had a Fell mood in 31.12. The Dwarf who undertook the mood first claimed a Tanner's shop then stalked the (corpse-strewn, gradually flooding) halls of my fortress for quite a while. Eventually, he grabbed an alread-dead Dwarf's corpse and hauled it back to the Tannery. And now... I have a lovely Dwarf Bone Cage which sadly will be lost soon when my fortress finishes self-destructing in an orgy of tantrums and doomsday-level flooding. [[Special:Contributions/71.232.137.20|71.232.137.20]] 04:59, 30 July 2010 (UTC) | ::I just had a Fell mood in 31.12. The Dwarf who undertook the mood first claimed a Tanner's shop then stalked the (corpse-strewn, gradually flooding) halls of my fortress for quite a while. Eventually, he grabbed an alread-dead Dwarf's corpse and hauled it back to the Tannery. And now... I have a lovely Dwarf Bone Cage which sadly will be lost soon when my fortress finishes self-destructing in an orgy of tantrums and doomsday-level flooding. [[Special:Contributions/71.232.137.20|71.232.137.20]] 04:59, 30 July 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:**2 results in a possessed mood. | :**2 results in a possessed mood. | ||
:Purely random. Disassembly available on request.<br/>—[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 04:19, 2 July 2010 (UTC) | :Purely random. Disassembly available on request.<br/>—[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 04:19, 2 July 2010 (UTC) | ||
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− | + | :I just had my first Possessed Dwarf and it was a bonecrafter with no workshop. Didn't take much to work out what I needed to build but could the lack of a workshop related to their profession be a factor in the equation? I know as a fact that death isn't needed for one to happen as it's the 1st mood of a new fort and not even a tame stray has died yet. | |
− | + | --[[Special:Contributions/124.180.132.157|124.180.132.157]] 06:07, 29 November 2010 (UTC) | |
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== Shells == | == Shells == | ||
Mussel shells count as shells along with turtle shells and cave lobster shells. Should change the page to include them . | Mussel shells count as shells along with turtle shells and cave lobster shells. Should change the page to include them . | ||
− | : Cave lobsters don't produce shells anymore. Only turtle, oyster and mussel do - see [[ | + | : Cave lobsters don't produce shells anymore. Only turtle, oyster and mussel do - see [[DF2010:Shell|shell]] page.[[User:Peregarrett|Peregarrett]] 06:50, 2 July 2010 (UTC) |
== Materials in hospitals == | == Materials in hospitals == | ||
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::::Could it be that you need to BREAK a pop of 20 for one to be able to trigger? Perhaps even as specific as when the mood is brewing (before your notified) you have to have more then 20 but that stop it in the case of say a goblin slaughter... | ::::Could it be that you need to BREAK a pop of 20 for one to be able to trigger? Perhaps even as specific as when the mood is brewing (before your notified) you have to have more then 20 but that stop it in the case of say a goblin slaughter... | ||
::::--[[Special:Contributions/124.180.132.157|124.180.132.157]] 06:11, 29 November 2010 (UTC) | ::::--[[Special:Contributions/124.180.132.157|124.180.132.157]] 06:11, 29 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
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== Other requests == | == Other requests == | ||
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Oh, sorry, DF 31.10, [[Special:Contributions/78.140.48.35|78.140.48.35]] 08:12, 18 August 2010 (UTC) | Oh, sorry, DF 31.10, [[Special:Contributions/78.140.48.35|78.140.48.35]] 08:12, 18 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
:It happens fairly often (and even back in 40d) that a moody metalsmith will insist on a very specific metal. In most cases, that metal would be the dwarf's favorite metal, but I always observed that once I had struck raw adamantine, all moody metalsmiths would insist on using adamantine wafers. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 12:53, 18 August 2010 (UTC) | :It happens fairly often (and even back in 40d) that a moody metalsmith will insist on a very specific metal. In most cases, that metal would be the dwarf's favorite metal, but I always observed that once I had struck raw adamantine, all moody metalsmiths would insist on using adamantine wafers. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 12:53, 18 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
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== Strange problem with moods == | == Strange problem with moods == | ||
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:Were both skills equal? Perhaps he migrated in as a proficient woodcrafter and mechanic? It may be that it only regards the level of their proficiency rather than their EXP value for it. --[[User:Eurytus|Eurytus]] 20:21, 16 September 2010 (UTC) | :Were both skills equal? Perhaps he migrated in as a proficient woodcrafter and mechanic? It may be that it only regards the level of their proficiency rather than their EXP value for it. --[[User:Eurytus|Eurytus]] 20:21, 16 September 2010 (UTC) | ||
::In the previous major release, the skill with the most experience points was used; the level was not considered. I don't see any reason for that to have changed. I would suspect rust. Savegame?<br/>—[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 21:24, 16 September 2010 (UTC) | ::In the previous major release, the skill with the most experience points was used; the level was not considered. I don't see any reason for that to have changed. I would suspect rust. Savegame?<br/>—[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 21:24, 16 September 2010 (UTC) | ||
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== Magma Forge vs. Normal Forge == | == Magma Forge vs. Normal Forge == | ||
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I had a Dwarf who got the Fey mood and didnt want to claim a Workshop. I built any possible Workshop, except a Forge, since I had a Magma Forge. The Dwarf didnt accept the Magma Forge but when i disassemled it and built a Normal Metlsmiths Forge he claimed it immediately. So it seems for moody dwarfs thats not the same. -- Blue Crake 30.10.10 | I had a Dwarf who got the Fey mood and didnt want to claim a Workshop. I built any possible Workshop, except a Forge, since I had a Magma Forge. The Dwarf didnt accept the Magma Forge but when i disassemled it and built a Normal Metlsmiths Forge he claimed it immediately. So it seems for moody dwarfs thats not the same. -- Blue Crake 30.10.10 | ||
:Yes, this sometimes happens. Reported above, item #9. Also reported several times on the 40d Talk Strange Mood page. I'm glad you figured out the workaround.<br/>—[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 22:40, 30 September 2010 (UTC) | :Yes, this sometimes happens. Reported above, item #9. Also reported several times on the 40d Talk Strange Mood page. I'm glad you figured out the workaround.<br/>—[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 22:40, 30 September 2010 (UTC) | ||
− | I wrote that to tell, that this is the case for the forge too, not only the glassmaker. I can`t find anything about this in the mainpage of | + | I wrote that to tell, that this is the case for the forge too, not only the glassmaker. I can`t find anything about this in the mainpage of DF2010 Moods. Shouldn`t it be here as well, as long as this bug (is it a bug or rather a caveat?) exists? Needing a normal forge is kinda counterintuitive, as moody dwarfs dont use fuel anyway. Also do moody dwarfs always take nonmagma-buildings or just sometimes? --[[User:Blue Crake|Blue Crake]] 10:42, 1 October 2010 (UTC) |
This seems like a bug to me, why does normal vs. magma matter? It really shouldn't. Just want to make sure this is noted as bug. <small>– [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Pathaugen|Pathaugen]]</small> | This seems like a bug to me, why does normal vs. magma matter? It really shouldn't. Just want to make sure this is noted as bug. <small>– [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Pathaugen|Pathaugen]]</small> | ||
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:Just had this happen again, this time with rough gems as the primary material. "rough gems" displayed the normal two seconds, two rough gems gathered, (not three). The same artifact also required 2 logs (as secondary materials, not primary) and "wood logs" was displayed the expected 4 seconds, which seems to confirm it's the primary material that does it. I'll add it to the page with a verify tag. | :Just had this happen again, this time with rough gems as the primary material. "rough gems" displayed the normal two seconds, two rough gems gathered, (not three). The same artifact also required 2 logs (as secondary materials, not primary) and "wood logs" was displayed the expected 4 seconds, which seems to confirm it's the primary material that does it. I'll add it to the page with a verify tag. | ||
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== Random mood crafting. == | == Random mood crafting. == | ||
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== Starvation/Dehydration == | == Starvation/Dehydration == | ||
Can a dwarf die from either while in a mood? | Can a dwarf die from either while in a mood? | ||
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== Dwarf not using available materials? == | == Dwarf not using available materials? == | ||
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:I think starving dwarves will steal food from traders. So I'm not too surprised that a moody dwarf would take something that is technically fortress property.<br/>—[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 23:49, 27 March 2011 (UTC) | :I think starving dwarves will steal food from traders. So I'm not too surprised that a moody dwarf would take something that is technically fortress property.<br/>—[[User:0x517A5D|0x517A5D]] 23:49, 27 March 2011 (UTC) | ||
::I've observed Dwarves stealing from caravans for moods on more than one occasion. It doesn't appear to happen with every mood where they're missing something, so it might have to do with the type of mood or the personality of the moody dwarf. --[[User:SethCreiyd|SethCreiyd]] 17:31, 28 March 2011 (UTC) | ::I've observed Dwarves stealing from caravans for moods on more than one occasion. It doesn't appear to happen with every mood where they're missing something, so it might have to do with the type of mood or the personality of the moody dwarf. --[[User:SethCreiyd|SethCreiyd]] 17:31, 28 March 2011 (UTC) | ||
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