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::'''''Note:''' Wagons appear to have been removed since DF 31.01. Toady has not yet signaled if this is a bug or not.''--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 04:51, 20 April 2010 (UTC) | ::'''''Note:''' Wagons appear to have been removed since DF 31.01. Toady has not yet signaled if this is a bug or not.''--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 04:51, 20 April 2010 (UTC) | ||
− | :::It's almost definitely a bug - wagons are most definitely still present in the raws, and Toady stated somewhere on the forums that they '''are''' supposed to be showing up. Upon closer examination, I'm suspecting the lack of [NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT] and the various tissue properties (compare | + | :::It's almost definitely a bug - wagons are most definitely still present in the raws, and Toady stated somewhere on the forums that they '''are''' supposed to be showing up. Upon closer examination, I'm suspecting the lack of [NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT] and the various tissue properties (compare {{L|gabbro man}} and {{L|amethyst man}} and notice all of the extra tokens) may be at least partially responsible. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 04:37, 12 October 2010 (UTC) |
::::Unfortunately, a quick test suggests that this is '''not''' the cause of the lack of wagons. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 14:52, 12 October 2010 (UTC) | ::::Unfortunately, a quick test suggests that this is '''not''' the cause of the lack of wagons. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 14:52, 12 October 2010 (UTC) | ||
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Copied these from both common domestic cow and gabbro man. The idea is to find at what point the difference between a cow and a wagon causes the latter to not exist. [NOFEAR] may be a little too much :) | Copied these from both common domestic cow and gabbro man. The idea is to find at what point the difference between a cow and a wagon causes the latter to not exist. [NOFEAR] may be a little too much :) | ||
--[[User:Another|Another]] 13:21, 21 October 2010 (UTC) | --[[User:Another|Another]] 13:21, 21 October 2010 (UTC) | ||
− | :Back in 40d, [EQUIPMENT_WAGON] implied [NOT_BUTCHERABLE], [NOEXERT], [NOPAIN], [NOSTUN], [NONAUSEA], [NOBLEED], [NOEMOTION], [NOSTUCKINS], [SEVERONBREAKS], [NOSKULL], [NOSKIN], [NOBONES], [NOMEAT], [PARALYZEIMMUNE], [NOFEAR], [NOSMELLYROT], [NOTHOUGHT], [NOBREATHE], [NO_GENDER], [NO_EAT], [NO_DRINK], and [NO_SLEEP]. Looking at a disassembly of version 0.31.16, this no longer appears to be the case, so it'd probably be worth trying to add all of the above tokens (plus [NO_DIZZINESS]+[NO_FEVERS]) except for NOT_BUTCHERABLE (which is already there), SEVERONBREAKS+NO_GENDER+NOBLEED (which don't exist anymore), and possibly NOSKULL+NOSKIN+NOBONES+NOMEAT+NOSMELLYROT (which may or may not actually do anything in 0.31 - they're currently used only on the | + | :Back in 40d, [EQUIPMENT_WAGON] implied [NOT_BUTCHERABLE], [NOEXERT], [NOPAIN], [NOSTUN], [NONAUSEA], [NOBLEED], [NOEMOTION], [NOSTUCKINS], [SEVERONBREAKS], [NOSKULL], [NOSKIN], [NOBONES], [NOMEAT], [PARALYZEIMMUNE], [NOFEAR], [NOSMELLYROT], [NOTHOUGHT], [NOBREATHE], [NO_GENDER], [NO_EAT], [NO_DRINK], and [NO_SLEEP]. Looking at a disassembly of version 0.31.16, this no longer appears to be the case, so it'd probably be worth trying to add all of the above tokens (plus [NO_DIZZINESS]+[NO_FEVERS]) except for NOT_BUTCHERABLE (which is already there), SEVERONBREAKS+NO_GENDER+NOBLEED (which don't exist anymore), and possibly NOSKULL+NOSKIN+NOBONES+NOMEAT+NOSMELLYROT (which may or may not actually do anything in 0.31 - they're currently used only on the {{L|grimeling}}). --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 15:43, 21 October 2010 (UTC) |
::Additionally, note above that I've already tried adding [NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT] and altering the WOOD tissue to include [MUSCULAR][FUNCTIONAL][STRUCTURAL][RELATIVE_THICKNESS:1][CONNECTS][TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER], but that alone wasn't enough. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 15:50, 21 October 2010 (UTC) | ::Additionally, note above that I've already tried adding [NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT] and altering the WOOD tissue to include [MUSCULAR][FUNCTIONAL][STRUCTURAL][RELATIVE_THICKNESS:1][CONNECTS][TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER], but that alone wasn't enough. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 15:50, 21 October 2010 (UTC) | ||
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