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"Tests show that where even masterwork wooden bolts bounce harmlessly off copper armor, iron bolts pierce without any issue." | "Tests show that where even masterwork wooden bolts bounce harmlessly off copper armor, iron bolts pierce without any issue." | ||
− | "Tests show that even wooden bolts are effective against armored targets with the new release. Copper bolts have been known to pierce | + | "Tests show that even wooden bolts are effective against armored targets with the new release. Copper bolts have been known to pierce adamantium consistently." |
These two statements flatly contradict each other, is either true? [[User:OrangePikmin|OrangePikmin]] 21:31, 7 April 2012 (UTC) | These two statements flatly contradict each other, is either true? [[User:OrangePikmin|OrangePikmin]] 21:31, 7 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
− | The problem is the assumption that | + | The problem is the assumption that adamantium is the best armor against bolts. I have done arena testing which clearly shows it is not. Steel and copper armor will both deflect 98% of pine bolts, while adamantium only deflects 58%. This is quite strange, and I am not sure why this is happening. My best guess is that, since adamantium is completely rigid and very light, it essentially converts the edged attack of a bolt into a blunt attack with the same force and contact area. |
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I am continuing testing, and will try to add a more complete table of results to the bolt wiki page when I am finished.--[[User:Pirate Bob|Pirate Bob]] 12:37, 15 August 2012 (UTC) | I am continuing testing, and will try to add a more complete table of results to the bolt wiki page when I am finished.--[[User:Pirate Bob|Pirate Bob]] 12:37, 15 August 2012 (UTC) | ||
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== Decorated bolts == | == Decorated bolts == | ||
There used to be an exploit wherein encrusting bolts with gems gave them enormous value boost because decoration value is counted for every bolt in stack. As I get it, Toady fixed it by setting value multiplier for bolt decorations to 1/3 instead of 10. Should be this mentioned somewhere? Also, if you manage to get a stack of more than 30 bolts, this is still an issue - e.g., for bolts[60] decorations value is doubled. --04:17, 21 May 2012 (UTC) | There used to be an exploit wherein encrusting bolts with gems gave them enormous value boost because decoration value is counted for every bolt in stack. As I get it, Toady fixed it by setting value multiplier for bolt decorations to 1/3 instead of 10. Should be this mentioned somewhere? Also, if you manage to get a stack of more than 30 bolts, this is still an issue - e.g., for bolts[60] decorations value is doubled. --04:17, 21 May 2012 (UTC) | ||
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