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== Who I Am ==
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== Current Fortress ==
  
I am Kydo, a DF player who enjoys this website a lot and is interested in helping. Mostly with grammatical corrections. (If you see any issues on my page, please point them out to me. Everyone makes mistakes. That's why I'm here.) My real name is Jeff. Not that it matters. In rl, I'm an artist with two years of college under his belt... And no money to complete the rest of the degree. I'm a gamer, I play D&D and dabble in tabletop RPG design, I play videogames excessively, and it all tends to get in the way of my art, really. This is probably just another diversion, I suppose. Oh. And I'm a MAN. Let's make that clear.
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=== Title Page: ===
  
I have a DA page if you wish to talk to me about art or what-not.
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When I have something worthwhile hapen, I'll do a drawing for a genuine cover, and give it an appropriate title.
[http://kydo.deviantart.com/ Kydo]
 
  
== Observations ==
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=== Preface: ===
Just a collection of things I've noticed. Read it or not, I don't care. Basically just stuff I want to add as little side-notes to other articles, but am too shy to actually do. I think I'll wait until I understand the editor a <s>bit</s> lot more.
 
  
=== Dead Wagons ===
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I have an idea for a DF-inspired work of fiction. DF is fun on it's own, but it's when we get to telling stories about what we've seen and done that things really get entertaining. Most of us got pulled in by the stories of Boatmurdered, and that was done in an OLD version of the game! But I believe we can do better. Pretty much all of the DF writing I've read is either D for Dwarf content on the wiki, or written from the perspective of the player, frequently as the "leader" of the fortress. I want to do something different. I want to explore, from a first-person perspective, the lives of the dwarves, in close detail. What's it like for seven-year-old Medtobonul, wandering stone halls and observing statues of his grandparents being eviscerated by demons? I don't want there to be a single narrative, that would just be too isolated, it wouldn't really give the full scope impression of all the life in a given fortress. Rather, there shall be many narratives. Bits and scraps, like bits of old journals, engravings on walls... Sort of like ghosts or memories of something huge, something grand. Something deeper than just a simple (and violent) game. I want to tell stories about the down time, the (currently) non-existent barroom conversations, the travelling, the politics... Not just the horrible accidents.
 
 
 
 
[[File:Dead_Wagons.JPG|thumb|right|Wagons of death]]
 
 
 
Okay, so this illustrates something a little off.
 
 
 
The wagon you start off with is stationary. All it can do is be deconstructed. It doesn't do THAT when you take the thing apart. You just get two pieces of wood.
 
 
 
The wagons traders use are obviously different. For one thing, they move, with two horse-like animals pulling them. (Sometimes they're camels, oxes, donkeys, etc.) They have a width of 3x3 tiles, and cannot pass over a great many objects in the environment. The Depot Accessibility Display shows only the places the ''center tile'' can pass over. So long as there's green, the wagon can get there.
 
 
 
The difference between trade wagons and the starting wagon becomes more apparent, in that upon entering the depot, they can be stacked two high, and seem to completely deconstruct themselves from existence.
 
 
 
In the [[trading]] article, it claims you can steal from a caravan without marking the objects as stolen, by deconstructing the depot with the traders inside. And it works! Very well! Someone noted that surrounding nations keep track of sent and returned wealth and will still probably invade. I'm tempted to note that dwarfs will never siege dwarfs, meaning you can HEAVILY exploit the trade caravan by deconstructing every time they show up, with NO repercussions... But it also causes the above glitchyness. The wagons, which at the time of depot deconstruction didn't even appear to exist, are now listed as dead, and still do not appear on the map.
 
 
 
When the caravan leaves, the wagons will reappear from the location they originally disappeared on, and wander off the field, leaving their goods behind, and for some reason, remaining in your units list as deceased creatures, despite already having watched them leave your map!
 
 
 
Reconstructing the depot, before or after they leave, even if it's in the same spot, will not "revive" them. Nor will it remove the "deceased" status.
 
 
 
The reason is that the starting wagon is a building, while the wagons the traders use are a creature.
 
 
 
creature_equipment.txt
 
 
 
[OBJECT:CREATURE]
 
 
 
[CREATURE:EQUIPMENT_WAGON]
 
:[NAME:wagon:wagons:wagon]
 
:[TILE:'W'][COLOR:6:0:0]
 
:[EQUIPMENT_WAGON][COMMON_DOMESTIC]
 
:[NOT_BUTCHERABLE]
 
:[HAS_RACEGLOSS:WOOD]
 
:[ITEMCORPSE:WOOD:NO_SUBTYPE:WOOD:USE_RACEGLOSS]
 
:[NOSMELLYROT]
 
:[BODY:WAGON]
 
:[SIZE:12]
 
:[ALL_ACTIVE]
 
:[NO_GENDER]
 
:[MATERIAL:WOOD:USE_RACEGLOSS]
 
:[TRADE_CAPACITY:15000]
 
:[MUNDANE]
 
 
 
TADA! That's why, when you press D to check depot accessibility, it only shows where that center tile can step. That center tile IS the wagon!
 
 
 
== Projects ==
 
Just whatever things I might be working on. Geology Chart is the only REAL concern at the moment. Whether DFWiki wants it or not; I do.
 
 
 
=== Industry Flowchart ===
 
 
 
Yeah, I'm making a flowchart describing the flow of all of the industries together, and how they interact. No easy task. The image is far too large to be reasonably uploaded at the moment, and I'm nowhere near done. Of course, that was kind of predicted.
 
 
 
'''Requisite Industries'''
 
These are industries which produce goods needed to produce other goods, and don't really fit inside any of the other industries.<BR/ >
 
Fuel Industry: 100%<BR/ >
 
Gem Industry: 0%
 
 
 
'''Primary Industries'''
 
These are overarching industries which usually contain several related or overlapping sub-industries. They mostly define the overall branching of where your production effort will be going.<BR/ >
 
Wood Industry: 0%<BR/ >
 
Stone Industry: 0%<BR/ >
 
Metal Industry: 40%<BR/ >
 
Glass Industry: 70%<BR/ >
 
Food Industry: 0%<BR/ >
 
 
 
'''Secondary Industries'''
 
These are industries which are generally built upon the primary industries, usually more than one.<BR/ >
 
Crafts Industry: 0%<BR/ >
 
Clothing Industry: 0%<BR/ >
 
Soap Industry: 0%<BR/ >
 
Furniture Industry: 0%<BR/ >
 
 
 
'''Sub-Industries'''
 
These are sub-industries within the overall branchings.<BR/ >
 
Meat Industry: 0%<BR/ >
 
Plant Industry: 0%<BR/ >
 
Alcohol Industry: 0%<BR/ >
 
Weapons Industry: 0%<BR/ >
 
Armor Industry: 0%<BR/ >
 
 
 
=== Geology Chart ===
 
 
 
This is the WIP Geology chart. It's purpose and intent is to describe the relationships between different kinds of minerals and metals as they appear in the environment of Dwarf Fortress. In constructing this, I have learned a lot about the commonalities, and the differences, between the contents of certain kinds of layers. This is partially due to the layout of the wiki as it stands, and partially due to paying attention.
 
 
 
When I started this project, I originally felt that the overall presentation of the stones and such to be absolutely wretched. However, as I've worked with them, I've learned ''why'' they were arranged that way. Even so, the whole thing needs massive cleanup for sure, and I think this would be a good first step. This is still mainly for my personal use.
 
 
 
{| class="wikitable" cellspacing="0" border="1" cellpadding="5"
 
|-
 
! colspan=6|Stone
 
|-
 
! colspan=6|Sedimentary
 
|-
 
! Name
 
! State
 
! Found In
 
! Contains Stone
 
! Contains Ore
 
! Contains Gems
 
|-
 
| Chalk
 
| Sedimentary
 
| Layer
 
|{{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Stones'''
 
{{list|sedimentary stone}}|Stone}}
 
|{{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Ores'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ore}}|Ores}}
 
|{{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Gems'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ornamental gem}}{{list|sedimentary semi-precious gem}}|Gems}}
 
|-
 
|Chert
 
|Sedimentary
 
|Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Stones'''
 
{{list|sedimentary stone}}|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary ores'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ore}}|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Gems'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ornamental gem}}{{list|sedimentary semi-precious gem}}|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Claystone
 
| Sedimentary
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Stones'''
 
{{list|sedimentary stone}}|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary ores'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ore}}|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Gems'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ornamental gem}}{{list|sedimentary semi-precious gem}}|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Conglomerate
 
| Sedimentary
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* Puddingstone
 
'''Sedimentary Stones'''
 
{{list|sedimentary stone}}|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Ores'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ore}}|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|None|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Dolomite
 
| Sedimentary
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* Talc
 
'''Sedimentary Stones'''
 
{{list|sedimentary stone}}|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentray Ores'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ore}}|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Gems'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ornamental gem}}{{list|sedimentary semi-precious gem}}|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Flint
 
| Sedimentary
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Stones'''
 
{{list|sedimentary stone}}|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Ores'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ore}}|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Gems'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ornamental gem}}{{list|sedimentary semi-precious gem}}|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Limestone
 
| Sedimentary
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* [[Calcite]]
 
'''Sedimentary Stones'''
 
{{list|sedimentary stone}}|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* [[Galena]]
 
* [[Malachite]]
 
'''Sedimentary Ores'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ore}}|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Gems'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ornamental gem}}{{list|sedimentary semi-precious gem}}|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Mudstone
 
| Sedimentary
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Stones'''
 
{{list|sedimentary stone}}|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary ores'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ore}}|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Gems'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ornamental gem}}{{list|sedimentary semi-precious gem}}|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Rock Salt
 
| Sedimentary
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* Borax
 
* Sylvite
 
'''Sedimentary Stones'''
 
{{list|sedimentary stone}}|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Ores'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ore}}|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Gems'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ornamental gem}}{{list|sedimentary semi-precious gem}}|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Sandstone
 
| Sedimentary
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Stones'''
 
{{list|sedimentary stone}}|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* [[Native copper]]
 
'''Sedimentary Ores'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ore}}|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Gems'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ornamental gem}}{{list|sedimentary semi-precious gem}}|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Shale
 
| Sedimentary
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* Cinnabar
 
'''Sedimentary Stones'''
 
{{list|sedimentary stone}}|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Ores'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ore}}|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Gems'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ornamental gem}}{{list|sedimentary semi-precious gem}}|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Siltstone
 
| Sedimentary
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Stones'''
 
{{list|sedimentary stone}}|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Ores'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ore}}|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
'''Sedimentary Gems'''
 
{{list|sedimentary ornamental gem}}{{list|sedimentary semi-precious gem}}|Gems}}
 
|-
 
! colspan=6|Igneous Intrusive
 
|-
 
! Name
 
! State
 
! Found In
 
! Contains Stone
 
! Contains Ore
 
! Contains Gems
 
|-
 
| Diorite
 
| Igneous Intrusive
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* Pyrolusite
 
* Hornblende
 
* Orthoclase
 
* Microcline|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* [[Native gold]]
 
* [[Tetrahedrite]]|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|None|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Gabbro
 
| Igneous Intrusive
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* [[Olivine]]
 
:* [[Native platinum]]
 
:* Serpentine
 
:* Chromite
 
* [[Kimberlite]]
 
* Ilmenite
 
* Pyrolusite
 
* Hornblende
 
* Orthoclase
 
* Microcline|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* [[Garnierite]]
 
* [[Native gold]]
 
* [[Tetrahedrite]]|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|None|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Granite
 
| Igneous Intrusive
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* Cryolite
 
* Rutile
 
* Pyrolusite
 
* Pitchblende
 
* Hornblende
 
* Orthoclase
 
* Microcline
 
* Mica|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* [[Native gold]]
 
* [[Native silver]]
 
:* [[Horn silver]]
 
* [[Galena]]
 
* [[Cassiterite]]
 
* [[Tetrahedrite]]
 
* [[Bismuthinite]]|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|None|Gems}}
 
|-
 
! colspan=6|Igneous Extrusive
 
|-
 
! Name
 
! State
 
! Found In
 
! Contains Stone
 
! Contains Ore
 
! Contains Gems
 
|-
 
| Andesite
 
| Igneous Extrusive
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* Brimstone
 
* Realgar
 
* Orpiment
 
* Stibnite
 
* Rutile
 
* Hornblende
 
* Alunite
 
* Microcline|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* [[Hematite]]
 
* [[Native gold]]
 
* [[Native copper]]
 
* [[Tetrahedrite]]
 
* [[Native aluminum]]
 
* [[Galena]]|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|None|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Basalt
 
| Igneous Extrusive
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* Brimstone
 
* Realgar
 
* Orpiment
 
* Stibnite
 
* Rutile
 
* Hornblende
 
* Alunite
 
* Microcline|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* [[Hematite]]
 
* [[Native gold]]
 
* [[Native copper]]
 
* [[Tetrahedrite]]
 
* [[Native aluminum]]
 
* [[Galena]]|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|None|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Felsite
 
| Igneous Extrusive
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* Brimstone
 
* Realgar
 
* Orpiment
 
* Stibnite
 
* Rutile
 
* Hornblende
 
* Alunite
 
* Microcline|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|* [[Hematite]]
 
* [[Native gold]]
 
* [[Native copper]]
 
* [[Tetrahedrite]]
 
* [[Native aluminum]]
 
* [[Galena]]|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|None|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Obsidian
 
| Igneous Extrusive
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* Brimstone
 
* Realgar
 
* Orpiment
 
* Stibnite
 
* Rutile
 
* Hornblende
 
* Alunite
 
* Microcline|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* [[Hematite]]
 
* [[Native gold]]
 
* [[Native copper]]
 
* [[Tetrahedrite]]
 
* [[Native aluminum]]
 
* [[Galena]]|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|None|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Rhyolite
 
| Igneous Extrusive
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* Brimstone
 
* Realgar
 
* Orpiment
 
* Stibnite
 
* Rutile
 
* Hornblende
 
* Alunite
 
* Microcline|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* [[Hematite]]
 
* [[Native gold]]
 
* [[Native copper]]
 
* [[Tetrahedrite]]
 
* [[Native aluminum]]
 
* [[Galena]]|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|None|Gems}}
 
|-
 
! colspan=6|Metamorphic
 
|-
 
! Name
 
! State
 
! Found In
 
! Contains Stone
 
! Contains Ore
 
! Contains Gems
 
|-
 
| Gneiss
 
| Metamorphic
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* [[Graphite]]
 
{{list|metamorphic stone}}|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* [[Native silver]]
 
:*[[Horn silver]]
 
{{list|metamorphic ore}}|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|{{list|metamorphic gem}}|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Marble
 
| Metamorphic
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* [[Graphite]]
 
* [[Calcite]]
 
{{list|metamorphic stone}}|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* [[Malachite]]
 
{{list|metamorphic ore}}|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|{{list|metamorphic gem}}|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Phyllite
 
| Metamorphic
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|{{list|metamorphic stone}}|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|{{list|metamorphic ore}}|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|{{list|metamorphic gem}}|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Quartzite
 
| Metamorphic
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* Cinnabar
 
* [[Graphite]]
 
{{list|metamorphic stone}}|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|{{list|metamorphic ore}}|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|{{list|metamorphic gem}}|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Schist
 
| Metamorphic
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* [[Graphite]]
 
{{list|metamorphic stone}}|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|{{list|metamorphic ore}}|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|{{list|metamorphic gem}}|Gems}}
 
|-
 
| Slate
 
| Metamorphic
 
| Layer
 
| {{Spoil small|
 
* Cinnabar
 
{{list|metamorphic stone}}|Stone}}
 
| {{Spoil small|{{list|metamorphic ore}}|Ores}}
 
| {{Spoil small|{{list|metamorphic gem}}|Gems}}
 
|-
 
|}
 
 
 
== Design Ideas==
 
 
 
=Jail Design=
 
 
 
I've been looking at better ways of designing prisons in such a way as to more effectively rehabilitate prisoners and catch tantrumers before they cause too much damage. Some things I've noticed...
 
 
 
#A restraint allows a dwarf a 3x3x3 cube of movement. This means you can have your jail "cells" have 3 rooms on three levels, increasing the number of nice things you can put around your prisoners.
 
#Building a well somewhere in your prison complex will decrease the time it takes for water to be delivered to any tantrumers who may have been hurt prior to or during the imprisonment process.
 
#Putting a barracks full of soldiers between your prison and the rest of your fortress may help. There are ways of escaping, and I like to be careful.
 
#If a dwarf is unhappy for long enough, they'll go insane. Nearing the end of a fortress, dwarves tend to stay sad for a fair while. Any imprisoned dwarves who go nuts can be locked away (somewhat) safely if you put each restraint in it's own chamber with a door.
 
#Expanding on the insanity thing, trapping your prison may be helpful, as could guard dogs. Although, I did that more because I had too much of everything. Mostly overkill by that point.
 
#Expanding on the "too much of everything" tangent, I also designed my prison with a COMPLETE AND TOTAL LOCKDOWN lever. Just in case of an inmate uprising the game isn't normally capable of generating.
 
#Just for the hell of it, I have been thinking about making a specific execution chamber for prisoners I particularly dislike. Is there any way to control what cell a prisoner is placed in? Aside from locking all but one?
 
 
 
Anyways, any other ideas? Not sure if it should really be added to the wiki proper, as this doesn't really talk about game mechanics so much.--Kydo 04:39, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 

Latest revision as of 08:56, 28 April 2014

Current Fortress[edit]

Title Page:[edit]

When I have something worthwhile hapen, I'll do a drawing for a genuine cover, and give it an appropriate title.

Preface:[edit]

I have an idea for a DF-inspired work of fiction. DF is fun on it's own, but it's when we get to telling stories about what we've seen and done that things really get entertaining. Most of us got pulled in by the stories of Boatmurdered, and that was done in an OLD version of the game! But I believe we can do better. Pretty much all of the DF writing I've read is either D for Dwarf content on the wiki, or written from the perspective of the player, frequently as the "leader" of the fortress. I want to do something different. I want to explore, from a first-person perspective, the lives of the dwarves, in close detail. What's it like for seven-year-old Medtobonul, wandering stone halls and observing statues of his grandparents being eviscerated by demons? I don't want there to be a single narrative, that would just be too isolated, it wouldn't really give the full scope impression of all the life in a given fortress. Rather, there shall be many narratives. Bits and scraps, like bits of old journals, engravings on walls... Sort of like ghosts or memories of something huge, something grand. Something deeper than just a simple (and violent) game. I want to tell stories about the down time, the (currently) non-existent barroom conversations, the travelling, the politics... Not just the horrible accidents.