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In the game, the site is referred to as "hillocks" in the plural, e.g. "The Dwarven Hillocks of Febuker". "Hillock" refers to the hobbit-hole houses found in the site. If the article's title is referring to the site, not the structures in the site, shouldn't the title be called Hillocks? The same applies with dark pits and mountain halls. I would like if we move the title in the plural (along with Dark pit) so it is consistent with the in-game term. – [[User:Doorkeeper|Doorkeeper]] 17:23, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
 
In the game, the site is referred to as "hillocks" in the plural, e.g. "The Dwarven Hillocks of Febuker". "Hillock" refers to the hobbit-hole houses found in the site. If the article's title is referring to the site, not the structures in the site, shouldn't the title be called Hillocks? The same applies with dark pits and mountain halls. I would like if we move the title in the plural (along with Dark pit) so it is consistent with the in-game term. – [[User:Doorkeeper|Doorkeeper]] 17:23, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
  
:[[DF:CP#Rule N|Rule N]] states: "Exceptions are proper nouns and terms that are always plural." Hillocks (the site) is always used in the plural. – [[User:Doorkeeper|Doorkeeper]] 18:20, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
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:[[DF:CP#N|Rule N]] states: "Exceptions are proper nouns and terms that are always plural." Hillocks (the site) is always used in the plural in-game. Unless that quote is referring to proper-noun terms. – [[User:Doorkeeper|Doorkeeper]] 18:20, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
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::I was looking at the use of the word "hillock" in the article, but you changed that. However, the DF executable includes the string "Search first in a hillock to the", as well as "Abandoned hillocks", "Abandoned hillock", "Ruined hillocks", "Ruined hillock", "a hillock", and a few others, so I'm assuming that it's not always shown as a plural in-game. ("hillock" shows up too, but that might be for the XML export feature.) Strangely, I can't find anything containing "dark pit" (case-insensitive), so I'm not sure what to do about that one. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 13:48, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
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:::I believe those strings are referring to the structures and not the site. "Abandoned hillocks", "Abandoned hillock", "Ruined hillocks", "Ruined hillock", and "a hillock" resemble Fast Travel descriptions of nearby structures. "Search first in a hillock to the" resembles a part of a conversation response when you ask an NPC the directions to somebody. If the somebody in question is in the same site that you are in, they will specify the structure they dwell in and where it is. – [[User:Doorkeeper|Doorkeeper]] 15:30, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

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Hillock vs. Hillocks[edit]

In the game, the site is referred to as "hillocks" in the plural, e.g. "The Dwarven Hillocks of Febuker". "Hillock" refers to the hobbit-hole houses found in the site. If the article's title is referring to the site, not the structures in the site, shouldn't the title be called Hillocks? The same applies with dark pits and mountain halls. I would like if we move the title in the plural (along with Dark pit) so it is consistent with the in-game term. – Doorkeeper 17:23, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Rule N states: "Exceptions are proper nouns and terms that are always plural." Hillocks (the site) is always used in the plural in-game. Unless that quote is referring to proper-noun terms. – Doorkeeper 18:20, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
I was looking at the use of the word "hillock" in the article, but you changed that. However, the DF executable includes the string "Search first in a hillock to the", as well as "Abandoned hillocks", "Abandoned hillock", "Ruined hillocks", "Ruined hillock", "a hillock", and a few others, so I'm assuming that it's not always shown as a plural in-game. ("hillock" shows up too, but that might be for the XML export feature.) Strangely, I can't find anything containing "dark pit" (case-insensitive), so I'm not sure what to do about that one. —Lethosor (talk) 13:48, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
I believe those strings are referring to the structures and not the site. "Abandoned hillocks", "Abandoned hillock", "Ruined hillocks", "Ruined hillock", and "a hillock" resemble Fast Travel descriptions of nearby structures. "Search first in a hillock to the" resembles a part of a conversation response when you ask an NPC the directions to somebody. If the somebody in question is in the same site that you are in, they will specify the structure they dwell in and where it is. – Doorkeeper 15:30, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
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