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Does this really fall under any of these criteria? It may include witty humour, not-so-witty humour, bad humour, in-jokes related to the game, and references to the Bay12 forums. Sure, it has single "joke" but it's something that anyone will get instantly that doesn't really take a giant notice on the top to inform people of. Some people see that notice and assume the article is a complete joke, because some articles with it are, but if the page only has a minor little joke in it I don't think it should qualify unless the joke also could cause major confusion. Some humour should be expected in most articles, and unless it could be excessive or confusing it's not like it needs the giant notice of "possible" humour.[[User:Shardok|Shardok]] 19:51, 20 August 2009 (UTC) | Does this really fall under any of these criteria? It may include witty humour, not-so-witty humour, bad humour, in-jokes related to the game, and references to the Bay12 forums. Sure, it has single "joke" but it's something that anyone will get instantly that doesn't really take a giant notice on the top to inform people of. Some people see that notice and assume the article is a complete joke, because some articles with it are, but if the page only has a minor little joke in it I don't think it should qualify unless the joke also could cause major confusion. Some humour should be expected in most articles, and unless it could be excessive or confusing it's not like it needs the giant notice of "possible" humour.[[User:Shardok|Shardok]] 19:51, 20 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
+ | *I'm inclined to say "no, it doesn't", so I've removed the tag for now. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 20:37, 20 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
+ | in-jokes related to the game | ||
+ | ::Actually it '''IS''' an in-joke from the game. Look at Line 37 in the DF/Raw/creature_other.txt file. It's what a Dwarf thinks of when he "prefers" that animal. And Frankly if you're going to be that strict about the use of D for Dwarf then it should be removed from the following pages as well: | ||
+ | ::*[[Anvil]] (Only one joke, in italics, on an otherwise legitimate page) | ||
+ | ::*[[Camel]] (only one joke, in italics, on an otherwise legitimate page) | ||
+ | ::*[[Batman]] (I can't even see the joke there, if it IS a joke, it's not obvious and there is no link to the Bay12 forums.) | ||
+ | ::*[[Cat cancels Store Item in Stockpile: Too injured]] (although a bug usually is great fodder for jokes, this one is peppered with "minor little jokes" that aren't likely to cause confusion, after all, IT'S A BUG!) | ||
+ | ::*[[Cave Adaptation]] (The D for Dwarf should be moved to the "Proper Perspective" section, since that's the only place with a joke in it.) | ||
+ | ::*[[Fish dissector]] (Oh I get it, funny, ha-ha; the useless job gets a D for Dwarf... then how come [[Milker]], [[Cheese maker]], [[Animal Dissector]] and [[Soaper]] don't get this label?? They all have some kind of joke or another. In fact, I'm inclined to go and add the D for Dwarf template to those as well.) | ||
+ | ::*[[Grizzly bear]] (The joke is in italics and it's a quote from Jimmy Buffet... How is Jimmy Buffet relevant to DF?? (although if I found out he was a DF fan, I'd squeal like a little girl, cuz Jimmy Buffet is AWESOME.)) | ||
+ | ::*[[Hippo]] (a legitimate article peppered with cute, non-confusing jokes.) | ||
+ | ::*[[Loosing]] (this just appears to be a rant, and the whole page should be deleted) | ||
+ | ::*[[Quarry Bush]] (legitimate article, the joke paragraph should be italicize or set off in a different subsection with a D for Dwarf label on it.) | ||
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+ | :: So unless either of you are willing to go though and clean up those other pages, I'm reverting this page back to have the D for Dwarf template. [[User:3lB33|3lB33]] 13:18, 24 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ::: Re: Camels, That is not just "one" minor joke, it takes up well over 3/4ths of the article. Sure, it's all on the same thing, but it's only One joke. The rest of them I made changes to so they meet your status, and again, this article does not need the D for Dwarf title, and unless you can give good reason and convince someone else to your side, I doubt you'll get anywhere on this. Just saying since other articles have it this one should too is kinda pointless, especially when not all of those articles needed it and when you're idea of "just one joke" is incredibly skewed and can mean anywhere from 2 words to 3 paragraphs. [[User:Shardok|Shardok]] 21:06, 24 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
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+ | ::: Sounds fair, thanks for fixing the other ones too. [[User:3lB33|3lB33]] 00:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 04:17, 8 March 2010
D For Dwarf[edit]
Does this really fall under any of these criteria? It may include witty humour, not-so-witty humour, bad humour, in-jokes related to the game, and references to the Bay12 forums. Sure, it has single "joke" but it's something that anyone will get instantly that doesn't really take a giant notice on the top to inform people of. Some people see that notice and assume the article is a complete joke, because some articles with it are, but if the page only has a minor little joke in it I don't think it should qualify unless the joke also could cause major confusion. Some humour should be expected in most articles, and unless it could be excessive or confusing it's not like it needs the giant notice of "possible" humour.Shardok 19:51, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to say "no, it doesn't", so I've removed the tag for now. --Quietust 20:37, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
in-jokes related to the game
- Actually it IS an in-joke from the game. Look at Line 37 in the DF/Raw/creature_other.txt file. It's what a Dwarf thinks of when he "prefers" that animal. And Frankly if you're going to be that strict about the use of D for Dwarf then it should be removed from the following pages as well:
- Anvil (Only one joke, in italics, on an otherwise legitimate page)
- Camel (only one joke, in italics, on an otherwise legitimate page)
- Batman (I can't even see the joke there, if it IS a joke, it's not obvious and there is no link to the Bay12 forums.)
- Cat cancels Store Item in Stockpile: Too injured (although a bug usually is great fodder for jokes, this one is peppered with "minor little jokes" that aren't likely to cause confusion, after all, IT'S A BUG!)
- Cave Adaptation (The D for Dwarf should be moved to the "Proper Perspective" section, since that's the only place with a joke in it.)
- Fish dissector (Oh I get it, funny, ha-ha; the useless job gets a D for Dwarf... then how come Milker, Cheese maker, Animal Dissector and Soaper don't get this label?? They all have some kind of joke or another. In fact, I'm inclined to go and add the D for Dwarf template to those as well.)
- Grizzly bear (The joke is in italics and it's a quote from Jimmy Buffet... How is Jimmy Buffet relevant to DF?? (although if I found out he was a DF fan, I'd squeal like a little girl, cuz Jimmy Buffet is AWESOME.))
- Hippo (a legitimate article peppered with cute, non-confusing jokes.)
- Loosing (this just appears to be a rant, and the whole page should be deleted)
- Quarry Bush (legitimate article, the joke paragraph should be italicize or set off in a different subsection with a D for Dwarf label on it.)
- Actually it IS an in-joke from the game. Look at Line 37 in the DF/Raw/creature_other.txt file. It's what a Dwarf thinks of when he "prefers" that animal. And Frankly if you're going to be that strict about the use of D for Dwarf then it should be removed from the following pages as well:
- So unless either of you are willing to go though and clean up those other pages, I'm reverting this page back to have the D for Dwarf template. 3lB33 13:18, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
- Re: Camels, That is not just "one" minor joke, it takes up well over 3/4ths of the article. Sure, it's all on the same thing, but it's only One joke. The rest of them I made changes to so they meet your status, and again, this article does not need the D for Dwarf title, and unless you can give good reason and convince someone else to your side, I doubt you'll get anywhere on this. Just saying since other articles have it this one should too is kinda pointless, especially when not all of those articles needed it and when you're idea of "just one joke" is incredibly skewed and can mean anywhere from 2 words to 3 paragraphs. Shardok 21:06, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
- Sounds fair, thanks for fixing the other ones too. 3lB33 00:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)