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::::Interesting - my research seems to conclude the same. So I suppose that any mention of ancestry is just a cosmetic addition, rather than a link to any HF? The particular dwarf I'm looking at supposedly dedicated a toy boat to his maternal great-grandfather, but indeed, the legends file only mentions the creation of a family heirloom.
 
::::Interesting - my research seems to conclude the same. So I suppose that any mention of ancestry is just a cosmetic addition, rather than a link to any HF? The particular dwarf I'm looking at supposedly dedicated a toy boat to his maternal great-grandfather, but indeed, the legends file only mentions the creation of a family heirloom.
 
::I've had an artifact dedicated to the local site's government as well (not the civilization, nor the fortress itself). [https://imgur.com/a/ckXEb Here's a pic] for reference. --[[User:Beardistheword|Beardistheword]] ([[User talk:Beardistheword|talk]]) 22:42, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
 
::I've had an artifact dedicated to the local site's government as well (not the civilization, nor the fortress itself). [https://imgur.com/a/ckXEb Here's a pic] for reference. --[[User:Beardistheword|Beardistheword]] ([[User talk:Beardistheword|talk]]) 22:42, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
::For future reference, [https://imgur.com/a/kBPVs this] is what I was talking about re: "ancestry" claiming. [[User:CalmBit|CalmBit]] ([[User talk:CalmBit|talk]]) 22:57, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
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::For future reference, [https://imgur.com/a/kBPVs this] and [https://imgur.com/a/D7rtU this] are what I was talking about re: "ancestry" claiming. [[User:CalmBit|CalmBit]] ([[User talk:CalmBit|talk]]) 22:57, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
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=== Unofficial List Of Known Artifact Claims ===
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* Familial Claim ("He/She claims it as a family heirloom"/"He/She claims it as an heirloom in the name of the family ancestor <ancestor>")
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* Personal Claim ("He/She claims it as a personal treasure")
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* Entity Offer ("He/She offers it to <entity name>")
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== Is there any down side to selling an artifact? ==
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Obviously, no one would sell a legendary axe (maybe if it was made of soap), but artifact crafts are worth a lot, and I can't find a reason not to sell them. Time for some !!!SCIENCE!!!

Latest revision as of 01:42, 8 March 2018

Anonymous: Does anyone know if military dwarves that name weapons also give them the X3 to hit multiply thing that other Artifact weapons have?

Named weapons no longer fixed to their namer?[edit]

In 40.xx it's possible for a dwarf to drop his named weapon (upon a military uniform change, for example). It can then be picked up by another dwarf while the former one is still alive. Qrox (talk) 12:01, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Artifact gems[edit]

is it worth mentioning that artifact gems can be included into other artifacts?


Yes, assuming someone can prove this happens in the game. ~SomeGuy

Family Heirlooms[edit]

It's briefly touched on in the article, but a little more research into what family heirlooms affect, if anything, is warranted. Additionally, it looks like there's multiple ways in which a family heirloom can be claimed - for instance, they can claim it in the name of an ancestor. I'd like to see if anyone else has anything they've noticed about heirlooms. CalmBit (talk) 21:10, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

I've seen an artifact created from a mood be dedicated to the fortress's civilization. I didn't record how it was phrased though. I guess these "dedications" are used in worldgen as motivation for entities to seek and recover artifacts, which keeps things interesting. So you'd get civilizations waging a war to recover a artifact that was dedicated to them, or the children of a artifact creator doing the same for an artifact claimed as a heirloom. Brightgalrs (talk) 21:39, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
That makes sense, although it does still puzzle me why an artifact could be claimed in the name of some ancestor and what effect it has on the recovery of artifacts, if any. I'm also wondering if there's some predisposition to claiming family heirlooms (on behalf of the creator - valuing family, perhaps?) CalmBit (talk)
I've been looking through Legends mode. Artifact creators either claim the artifact as a family heirloom (that's all it says) or offer it to their ruler who then proceeds to make it their symbol ("...was made a symbol of the king/baron/duke/count"). Brightgalrs (talk) 22:35, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
Interesting - my research seems to conclude the same. So I suppose that any mention of ancestry is just a cosmetic addition, rather than a link to any HF? The particular dwarf I'm looking at supposedly dedicated a toy boat to his maternal great-grandfather, but indeed, the legends file only mentions the creation of a family heirloom.
I've had an artifact dedicated to the local site's government as well (not the civilization, nor the fortress itself). Here's a pic for reference. --Beardistheword (talk) 22:42, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
For future reference, this and this are what I was talking about re: "ancestry" claiming. CalmBit (talk) 22:57, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Unofficial List Of Known Artifact Claims[edit]

  • Familial Claim ("He/She claims it as a family heirloom"/"He/She claims it as an heirloom in the name of the family ancestor <ancestor>")
  • Personal Claim ("He/She claims it as a personal treasure")
  • Entity Offer ("He/She offers it to <entity name>")

Is there any down side to selling an artifact?[edit]

Obviously, no one would sell a legendary axe (maybe if it was made of soap), but artifact crafts are worth a lot, and I can't find a reason not to sell them. Time for some !!!SCIENCE!!!