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Revision as of 21:10, 3 June 2008
All items in the game have a base value, which is multiplied by what material the item is made of and by the item's quality. Decorations (such as bone, gems, and studding) further increase the value.
Item quality can have an effect on an item's properties, especially armor and weapons.
Quality grades
All crafted items (furniture, armor, bolts, etc.) – but not intermediate materials (bars, blocks, etc. except cloth, which does have quality levels) – are bracketed by characters that show the quality of their craftsdwarfship. Dyeing also has a quality level, as does Decorating/Encrusting (with gems, leathers, cloth, etc). Prepared foods have quality levels. Alcohol has a hidden quality rating that controls the amount of happiness a dwarf gets from drinking it. It is not yet known whether the damage or destruction of masterful alcohol can cause tantrums.
Designation | Description | Value Modifier |
Damage / To-Hit / Armor Modifier |
---|---|---|---|
Item Name | — | ×1 | ×1.0 |
-Item Name- | Well-crafted | ×2 | ×1.2 |
+Item Name+ | Finely-crafted | ×3 | ×1.4 |
*Item Name* | Superior quality | ×4 | ×1.6 |
≡Item Name≡ | Exceptional | ×5 | ×1.8 |
☼Item Name☼ | Masterful | ×12 | ×2.0 |
When a masterful quality item is created, the game will announce, "<dwarf> has created a masterpiece!" Such a masterpiece will cause the dwarf that created it to tantrum for a year due to an unhappy thought if it is ever lost or destroyed. Masterpiece meals can be eaten safely, although allowing the food to rot will cause unhappy thoughts. Using up masterpiece bolts will not cause a tantrum either; nor does trading them away to merchants; however, if a kobold or wild animal steals a used masterpiece bolt which was lying around, then the maker's mood will decrease. Since legendary dwarves are most likely to be the ones creating masterpieces, keeping these creations safe should be high priority; tantruming legendary dwarves can be very difficult to subdue.
Legendary artifact items have a unique name instead of bracketing symbols and are worth 120x base value. They have a higher combat modifier than Masterful items, although the specific modifier is unknown. Artifacts, like masterpiece items, will cause a significant mood drop in the creator when destroyed or stolen.
Skill and quality levels
Tradesdwarves of different skill levels will produce items of differing quality. "Dabbling" dwarves never (without applicable preference) produce anything above a basic quality item, legendary dwarves usually produce Exceptional items, and the best legendary dwarves produce Masterful items approximately 27% of the time.
Preferences for particular materials and objects make a considerable difference. Although the exact adjustment is unknown, preliminary testing indicates that 1) they can boost effective skill (not quality) by one to three levels, and 2) they have greatest impact when the dwarf is still relatively unskilled.
Chance for | No quality | Well-crafted | Finely-crafted | Superior quality | Exceptional | Masterful |
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Dabbling | 100% | |||||
Novice | 80% | 18% | 1.9% | 0.13% | 0.007% | 0.00009% |
No label | 60% | 32% | 6.9% | 1.0% | 0.1% | 0.003% |
Competent | 40% | 42% | 14% | 3.1% | 0.5% | 0.02% |
Skilled | 20% | 48% | 24% | 6.8% | 1.6% | 0.09% |
Proficient | 50% | 33% | 12% | 4.0% | 0.28% | |
Talented | 40% | 36% | 17% | 6.6% | 0.58% | |
Adept | 30% | 37% | 21% | 10% | 1.1% | |
Expert | 20% | 37% | 26% | 15% | 1.8% | |
Professional | 10% | 36% | 30% | 21% | 2.9% | |
Accomplished | 33% | 33% | 29% | 4.4% | ||
Great | 27% | 33% | 34% | 5.9% | ||
Master | 20% | 32% | 40% | 7.7% | ||
High Master | 13% | 31% | 46% | 9.8% | ||
Grand Master | 6.7% | 28% | 53% | 12% | ||
Legendary | 25% | 60% | 15% | |||
Legendary+5 | 73% | 27% |
The above table is based on the formula discovered by User:0x517A5D:
First, a skill level is computed, apparently directly related to the dabbling...legendary indicators. No skill or dabbling is 1, legendary is 16. It's capped at 21.
Item quality is set to 0.
Then dice are rolled.
- If d5 < skill level, quality is bumped.
- If d10 < skill level, quality is bumped.
- If d15 < skill level, quality is bumped.
- If d20 < skill level, quality is bumped.
- If d25 < skill level and d3 == 1, quality is bumped.
This gives the 6 quality levels (0 to 5).
Effect of quality on weapon skill v0.23.130.23a
To quote Toady:
The quality of any weapon, including crossbows used as launchers, affects the skill of the shooter. I think this even leads to obscene things like master crossbows + master bolts causing recruits to shoot like legends. In general, if the quality Q is from 0 to 5, the skill is modified according to
Skillnew = Skilloriginal × (1.0 + 0.2 × Q) + Q
This is pretty extreme and will probably be reduced for all weapons.
He's wrong; dabbling weapondwarves will, with a masterpiece weapon, have skill increase to Accomplished, not Legendary. Still, the bonus is way too high. See this chart for the exact levels:
Note: This chart is out of date/wrong due to the facts that the integer that represents a specific skill level is not known, how the formula rounds is not known, and the fact that higher legendaries exist is known.
Result for | Well-crafted | Finely-crafted | Superior quality | Exceptional | Masterful |
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Dabbling | No label | Skilled | Talented | Expert | Accomplished |
Novice | Competent | Proficient | Expert | Accomplished | Master |
No label | Skilled | Adept | Professional | Master | Grand Master |
Competent | Talented | Expert | Great | High Master | Legendary |
Skilled | Adept | Accomplished | Master | Legendary | Legendary |
Proficient | Expert | Great | Grand Master | Legendary | Legendary |
Talented | Professional | Master | Legendary | Legendary | Legendary |
Adept | Accomplished | Grand Master | Legendary | Legendary | Legendary |
Expert | Master | Legendary | Legendary | Legendary | Legendary |
Professional | High Master | Legendary | Legendary | Legendary | Legendary |
Accomplished | Grand Master | Legendary | Legendary | Legendary | Legendary |
Great and better | Legendary | Legendary | Legendary | Legendary | Legendary |
If this is true, then it would be possible to:
- Train a couple dozen skilled miners
- Give them exceptional picks
- Draft them and give them decent armor
- Kill a goblin siege with a couple dozen legendary speardwarves (picks = 70% damage spears)