Editing 40d Talk:Bars

To be tested: on what conditions does water passing through bars creates mist, is it possible to shoot through bars? [[User:Noctis|Noctis]] 06:59, 4 November 2007 (EST)

I think I read Toady saying that there was no functional difference between grates and bars, (horizontal or vertical) at the moment, so if you can shoot through grates, you can shoot through bars.


This page violates '''N''', and should be swapped with [[bar]] --[[User:LegacyCWAL|LegacyCWAL]] 13:05, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
: "The exceptions are terms that are always plural and proper nouns." Bars (construction) are always plural in the game, unless you speak about [[metal]] bars. --[[User:Aykavil|Aykavil]] 13:22, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
::In which case [[bar]] should redirect to [[metal]] instead of here. --[[User:LegacyCWAL|LegacyCWAL]] 13:52, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
:::I would agree with that. However, as things are, the page ''Bars'' indicates the page ''Metal'' if one thought of metal bar. I can't think of a simple way to indicate the page ''Bars'' on the ''Metal'' one in case one typed ''bar'' that doesn't sound silly for all the other users who just type ''metal''.--[[User:Aykavil|Aykavil]] 20:04, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

==Comparison with floor grates==
The wiki claims they are identical in function, but from here it seems there is one major difference: the passage of light.  Grates when used as floors do not allow light passage, where bars in the same situation do.  Haven't had a chance to test, can someone confirm that? --[[User:Admiral Urist|Admiral Urist]] 15:31, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
:Just tested in-game, and both floor grates and floor bars cause the tiles below them to become "Inside" (it's not possible to make tiles "Dark" once they've been exposed to light). --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 19:51, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
== Weak Bars? ==
I'm curious if there is any point in making bars out of different materials other than color. Can anything damage bars? Or are they invulnerable like walls and fortifications? [[User:Doctorzuber|Doctorzuber]] 19:52, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:Bars of [[soap]] or [[lead]] or [[charcoal]] are exactly as strong as bars of [[steel]] or [[adamantine]].  However, [[construction]]s are anything built with the {{k|b}}+{{k|C}} keys ''only'', so [[building destroyer]] 2's can still tear down bars.  (Note - a Construction can be built using a [[bar]] as [[material]], but that's not the same thing as vertical or horizontal "bars", which is what this article is about.)--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 15:03, 15 March 2010 (UTC)