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Um, I'm a complete newbie, and I want to make my first fortress on an island. What about the fact that you are immune to goblin attacks if you are on an island? What about some tips on how to make a fortress on an island? Help! -- Cayzle

This should be added to the {{world}} categories.

--JPolito 17:55, 13 November 2007 (EST)

Oh wait. I figured out how to do it.

--JPolito 18:02, 13 November 2007 (EST)

I'm pretty sure an island isn't a biome type. Also, I've yet to see the game mention islands at all. Like a valley, this is a feature that is created and then recieves no reference. VengefulDonut 09:27, 14 November 2007 (EST)

Complete nonsense

As far as I can tell there is nothing useful about this article. The facts listed are all either completely untrue, utterly misleading, or don't related specifically to islands.

As mentioned, islands are not a feature in the game, there is nothing special about islands at all. If there is anything truly unique about them, then it is the comment about volcanoes:

  1. Often has a volcano

But I'm not even really convinced that is very accurate.Qalnor 14:27, 11 December 2007 (EST)

I agree. Delete this page. Bouchart 20:07, 11 December 2007 (EST)

Rewrote the page.

I made the article a little less cluttered, but other than that not much. Islands really aren't all that different from other coastline, even if I like the aesthetics :P I suppose islands could be useful for escaping the hippy menace though. Can anyone verify what sea level is?

"Your first fortress" says that goblins will settle nearby you at a certain point if there weren't any to begin with. --Xonara 00:22, 20 November 2008 (EST)

Is that true? I'm not aware of a mechanism by which this happens. They don't siege until you have 80 dwarves -- maybe that's what the author of that line had in mind?--Maximus 02:29, 20 November 2008 (EST)
I've built in a remote corner of the map with my fortress population approaching 400 and no hostiles have ever showed up, haha. It's been eight years, so if there's a trigger, it has to be pretty obscure. --Navian 09:46, 20 November 2008 (EST)

Deletion

This page appears to have been deleted once already with the reason that it was useless and unimportant. I still don't see why it should be kept. Anyone? --Savok 17:41, 11 December 2008 (EST)

Doesn't seem that bad to me in its current form.--Maximus 19:23, 11 December 2008 (EST)
It's got info about the volcanoes and about how civs have a hard time trading over the seas. It's well-written enough, notes the general salinity of the aquifer and provides a place to gather info for new players who want to build on an island. I don't see a reason -to- delete it. --LucienSadi 19:31, 11 December 2008 (EST)
Voting to keep. --Jellyfishgreen 06:39, 17 December 2008 (EST)
I'm of the opinion that some of this info is worthy of mention, but it's not really enough to fill an entire article. Perhaps it could be included in, say, Location or similar?--Quil 06:51, 17 December 2008 (EST)

I really should've clarified. Since an island differs from a beach in only two ways, one insignificant, I don't think that we need to have a separate page for island.
The two ways are:

  1. If you choose a large embark area, you can have ocean on both sides of your fort. Insignificant.
  2. Most civs cannot reach you.

I think that this page should be made a small subsection in Life next to an ocean in ocean. --Savok 14:39, 17 December 2008 (EST)

I believe I concur. Just a sentence or two there and possibly in lake, too? --Quil 15:50, 17 December 2008 (EST)
I'm fine with that.--Maximus 17:06, 17 December 2008 (EST)