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It is too complicated. The purpose of {{tl|diagram}} is to have a diagramming system that's so easy anyone can use it without having to read documentation. Proper use should be clear from just seeing it used. The z-levels and variables are neat features, but they compromise this purpose. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] ([[User talk:VengefulDonut|talk]]) 12:13, 24 July 2014 (UTC) | It is too complicated. The purpose of {{tl|diagram}} is to have a diagramming system that's so easy anyone can use it without having to read documentation. Proper use should be clear from just seeing it used. The z-levels and variables are neat features, but they compromise this purpose. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] ([[User talk:VengefulDonut|talk]]) 12:13, 24 July 2014 (UTC) | ||
:Z-levels and variables are optional - I find them helpful to avoid extra typing (with repeated rows, for example), but the old "one character per tile" method should still work. —[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 02:46, 27 July 2014 (UTC) | :Z-levels and variables are optional - I find them helpful to avoid extra typing (with repeated rows, for example), but the old "one character per tile" method should still work. —[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 02:46, 27 July 2014 (UTC) | ||
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It has hotkeys. The only people that are going learn the hotkeys are people who read the documentation. The end product is something that looks like an image, so most visitors will interact with it as if it was an image. So multiple z-level diagrams effectively become systems for tricking editors into thinking they've delivered more information than they actually have. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] ([[User talk:VengefulDonut|talk]]) 12:13, 24 July 2014 (UTC) | It has hotkeys. The only people that are going learn the hotkeys are people who read the documentation. The end product is something that looks like an image, so most visitors will interact with it as if it was an image. So multiple z-level diagrams effectively become systems for tricking editors into thinking they've delivered more information than they actually have. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] ([[User talk:VengefulDonut|talk]]) 12:13, 24 July 2014 (UTC) | ||
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{{tl|RT}} still exists, and its use is still being encouraged. Nobody should have to go through that. ): [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] ([[User talk:VengefulDonut|talk]]) 12:13, 24 July 2014 (UTC) | {{tl|RT}} still exists, and its use is still being encouraged. Nobody should have to go through that. ): [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] ([[User talk:VengefulDonut|talk]]) 12:13, 24 July 2014 (UTC) | ||
:I'm assuming you're referring to [[DF:Community portal]] - I think it works well for single-tile diagrams, but feel free to change that part if you feel it's inaccurate. —[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 02:46, 27 July 2014 (UTC) | :I'm assuming you're referring to [[DF:Community portal]] - I think it works well for single-tile diagrams, but feel free to change that part if you feel it's inaccurate. —[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 02:46, 27 July 2014 (UTC) | ||
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It seems your extension runs before the template substitution code. This prevents the use of <diagram> for infobox pictures. (ex: {{{1|a}}} <diagram>{{{1|a}}}</diagram>) [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] ([[User talk:VengefulDonut|talk]]) 19:36, 26 July 2014 (UTC) | It seems your extension runs before the template substitution code. This prevents the use of <diagram> for infobox pictures. (ex: {{{1|a}}} <diagram>{{{1|a}}}</diagram>) [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] ([[User talk:VengefulDonut|talk]]) 19:36, 26 July 2014 (UTC) | ||
:This is how all parser extension tags work - you can work around this with <nowiki>{{#tag:diagram| {{{1|a}}} }}</nowiki>. —[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 02:46, 27 July 2014 (UTC) | :This is how all parser extension tags work - you can work around this with <nowiki>{{#tag:diagram| {{{1|a}}} }}</nowiki>. —[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 02:46, 27 July 2014 (UTC) | ||
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