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Related to this, [[Creature#Tribesmen]] does have an AFAICT complete list of underground animal people that form tribes. [[User:Desistance|Desistance]] ([[User talk:Desistance|talk]]) 02:11, 16 January 2023 (UTC) | Related to this, [[Creature#Tribesmen]] does have an AFAICT complete list of underground animal people that form tribes. [[User:Desistance|Desistance]] ([[User talk:Desistance|talk]]) 02:11, 16 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
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| + | : I [https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=Animal_person&type=revision&diff=280281&oldid=276248 recently removed] them. Reasoning is that every creature on this page have the <code>[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:ANIMAL_PERSON]</code> except those, though it might have been premature as upon second look that have been the case in previous version as well. | ||
| + | :Quick notes: The removed subterranean animal people are uniquely tagged as <code>[FEATURE_ATTACK_GROUP]</code>, and all subterranean creature_man are uniqly in that they form a <code>[ENTITY:SUBTERRANEAN_ANIMAL_PEOPLES]</code>. I believe lore wise they suppose to be 'tribes' but I am unclear what gameplay affect these tags have in v50 compared to other subterranean creatures like "stupid" Troglodyte. Also even if animal people are shown as 'Intelligent Wilderness Creature' they do not have the {{token|INTELLIGENT|c}} in raws. | ||
| + | : Your observation seem more current then mine, enjoy the research and revert\update the entry as neccessary.--[[User:Jan|Jan]] ([[User talk:Jan|talk]]) 09:58, 17 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
Revision as of 09:58, 17 January 2023
FEATURE_ATTACK_GROUP
These are no longer tagged as animal person: Amphibian man, Antman, Bat man, Cave fish man, Cave swallow man, Olm man, Reptile man, Rodent man, Serpent man
Instead they have some new tags, including 'FEATURE_ATTACK_GROUP' any notion what that mean? --Jan (talk) 22:04, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
- ...I take it the explanation as it stands in the tag definition ([1]) is not enough? Silverwing235 (talk) 22:14, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
.50 updates
This page is currently out of date for .50. The lists of races of possible subterranean animal people civs is missing a bunch of races that I've seen spawn (maybe that's related to FEATURE_ATTACK_GROUP?), animal people show up in other civs now (I've seen cardinal men in human sieges), and subterranean animal people civs show up in the list of civs on the civ screen now (albeit always as friendly, even if they're inherently hostile).
I would just update this myself but I'm only half-sure about some of these things, and don't want to accidentally add misinfo. If nothing else, this is a note to myself to do some research and get around to fixing this at some point. Desistance (talk) 01:24, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Related to this, Creature#Tribesmen does have an AFAICT complete list of underground animal people that form tribes. Desistance (talk) 02:11, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- I recently removed them. Reasoning is that every creature on this page have the
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:ANIMAL_PERSON]except those, though it might have been premature as upon second look that have been the case in previous version as well. - Quick notes: The removed subterranean animal people are uniquely tagged as
[FEATURE_ATTACK_GROUP], and all subterranean creature_man are uniqly in that they form a[ENTITY:SUBTERRANEAN_ANIMAL_PEOPLES]. I believe lore wise they suppose to be 'tribes' but I am unclear what gameplay affect these tags have in v50 compared to other subterranean creatures like "stupid" Troglodyte. Also even if animal people are shown as 'Intelligent Wilderness Creature' they do not have the[INTELLIGENT]in raws. - Your observation seem more current then mine, enjoy the research and revert\update the entry as neccessary.--Jan (talk) 09:58, 17 January 2023 (UTC)