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  it's much easier to work these things out in real time.
 
  it's much easier to work these things out in real time.
 
No, sorry. And as Admin of this wiki, I feel it's important to use this format to work these things out. Which (I hope) we've now done. Readya later.--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 17:45, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
 
No, sorry. And as Admin of this wiki, I feel it's important to use this format to work these things out. Which (I hope) we've now done. Readya later.--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 17:45, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
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Could you change all of the non-namespace-specific article links in template pages to use [[template:L]]? This is going to be a problem soon. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 11:43, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

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Captcha

The wiki system is set up to autoconfirm a user after 3 days of existence as a registered user. Once that's done, you'll never have to enter a captcha again. (also, it's not possible, even as an admin / bureaucrat to manually add a user to the autoconfirmed group, sorry) --Briess 07:37, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Contact Info

I'm on IRC nearly every waking moment. --Briess 20:13, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Template:ArticleVersion

Two dozen consecutive edits? "Preview" just not a possibility?--Albedo 20:14, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

cv

So, forgive my continuing ignorance, but once the changeover happens, "cv" will then become whatever version 2010 is, right? And if so, how do we then distinguish between redirects appropriate only to the 40d legacy articles (which are currently being "corrected" using CV) and those that should go to the then truly "current version" 2010 articles?--Albedo 21:45, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

search terms and redirects

So a redirect chain like Gold bars -> 40d:Gold bars -> 40d:metal is correct, don't change it. Emi

Hi. I'm sure what you meant was to ask "Why did you delete that?", and not presume to lecture me about how redirects work. And my response would be - "Why did you create it?" Because I didn't "change" it, I deleted it - and there's a difference, and a difference in the reasoning behind each.

"Gold bars" is not really a term to link from, just not appropriate for a page title. It's not a term likely to be typed in to the search window, nor is it a wiki-article title in game terms. Gold is a perfectly valid (and existing) search term, and bars are as well, but not in the sense of "gold bars", unless you are constructing horizontal or vertical bars from a single bar of gold ("bars" of gold being distinct from a "bar" of gold, for better or worse). And it's not usually a policy to create redirects, even Search redirects, based on erroneous understandings of the layout of the wiki. (If so, "silver bars", "copper bars", "bismuth bronze battle axe" and "narrow giant cave spider silk trousers" could all be included by some well meaning user based on one User's example - and that's more work than I want. Or any Admin.) More, "gold bars" is plural, which breaks yet another rule. So why, pray, do we need it in the first place? Lastly, if "gold bars" were a valid search or redirect term, I would think it should redirect to either "bar", the item (to clarify what a "bar" is, gold or not), or "gold" (the material, to address that aspect), rather than metal, which doesn't address the actual term, but is only a generally related umbrella article - but that confusion gets back to the reason I deleted it in the first place. I didn't even notice it was you that had created that page, but if I had I would have asked you this before deleting it. So... since we're here, why did you see a need to create it in the first place?

And while we're on the subject, you seem to be fairly enthusiastic about redirecting every game term to cv:game term - even if they are NOT version specific. You may want to slow down before hitting every last one, since things like acronyms and such will then have to be tracked down and returned to mainspace existence. Several in the long, long list on Category:Obsolete seem more than a bit suspect, but I suppose now that it's done only the new version will prove them so or not. --Albedo 02:47, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I agree that it's maybe a silly redirect, however, right now I am making sure 
these redirects all work properly

Use some discretion. I saw a page marked N(ew), and it didn't belong. If you recognize it as "silly", then don't go to the trouble to perpetuate it. And allow me to make something else clear that you should understand. Before you replace a page that Admin has deleted, you should ask them "why?" first. Thanks so much for your understanding on that last point.--Albedo 03:07, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Discretion only slows down serializable tasks like the one I was doing. It's much easier to follow the 
same pattern over and over and then go back and do all the stuff necessary to remove a silly redirect

So you are going to cover all those "silly" redirects that require it? Reassuring to hear - so long as someone has it covered, no problem then.--Albedo 03:18, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Also, because there's no real reason not to have most of these redirects, it's silly to bother  
checking each one before fixing them. If the admins at this wiki are of the "I'm an admin, so my 
word is law" attitude, I'm not sure this is a place I want to be.

If that were the case, I would have simply acted high-handed and slapped you and not explained my reasoning - but we both know I didn't, so I'm left wondering why you even mention it. Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for your reason for replacing the page that an Admin deleted rather than asking them why they did it. Even if you were Admin, do you think that is a good approach to the situation?--Albedo 03:24, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I didn't notice that you had deleted it until after I had recreated it. 

I see.

I ask again if you use either of those other communication methods...
it's much easier to work these things out in real time.

No, sorry. And as Admin of this wiki, I feel it's important to use this format to work these things out. Which (I hope) we've now done. Readya later.--Albedo 17:45, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Bot edit request

Could you change all of the non-namespace-specific article links in template pages to use template:L? This is going to be a problem soon. VengefulDonut 11:43, 2 April 2010 (UTC)