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* Plant material which isn't wood (that is, crops).
 
* Plant material which isn't wood (that is, crops).
 
* Anything which was made using a wood derived product, but which ''could have'' been made without them.  For example, if you used a chunk of {{L|charcoal}} to smelt a {{L|gold}} nugget into a gold bar, then a second chunk of charcoal to forge the gold bar into {{L|goblet}}s, you can safely sell the goblets to the elves, since they'll assume that you used {{L|bituminous coal |coal}} or {{L|magma}} to produce them.
 
* Anything which was made using a wood derived product, but which ''could have'' been made without them.  For example, if you used a chunk of {{L|charcoal}} to smelt a {{L|gold}} nugget into a gold bar, then a second chunk of charcoal to forge the gold bar into {{L|goblet}}s, you can safely sell the goblets to the elves, since they'll assume that you used {{L|bituminous coal |coal}} or {{L|magma}} to produce them.
* Anything made from animal products, like {{L|meat}}, {{L|leather}} and {{L|bone}}s.  Even though elves have AT_PEACE_WITH_WILDLIFE and elven merchants never bring any animal products with them, they'll happily buy them from you.
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* Anything made from animal products, like {{L|meat}}, {{L|leather}} and {{L|bone}}s.  Even though elves are at peace with wildlife and elven merchants never bring any animal products with them, they'll happily buy them from you.
 
* {{L|Pottery}} with an {{L|ash glaze}} (though the fact that this doesn't offend them is probably a bug).
 
* {{L|Pottery}} with an {{L|ash glaze}} (though the fact that this doesn't offend them is probably a bug).
  
 
===Empty cages===
 
===Empty cages===
 
If an elven caravan has an apparently empty {{L|cage}} for sale, the cage might contain a tame {{L|vermin}}.  You can see if this is the case or not by examining the contents of the cage with {{K|v}}.
 
If an elven caravan has an apparently empty {{L|cage}} for sale, the cage might contain a tame {{L|vermin}}.  You can see if this is the case or not by examining the contents of the cage with {{K|v}}.

Revision as of 20:28, 21 September 2011

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Sometime in late Template:L of your first year, the dwarven Template:L from your parent civilization will come to your fortress for Template:L, so you should have things set up for them before then.

Trade depot

To trade with a caravan you need a Template:L in a place that has a clear path to the edge of your site's map. To place a depot use b-D, press Enter when positioned properly, and choose three items of raw material to make it from. Building it will require a dwarf with the Template:L labor enabled, and then another dwarf with a labor appropriate for the material it's made from (Template:L for stone, Template:L for wood, and one of the four Template:L related labors for metal). A depot is a 5x5 tile square, so if placing it outside you might need to Template:L down some Template:Ls to make room for it.

Once the depot is placed you can use D to check if the depot is accessible to Template:Ls. However, since caravans don't yet use wagons, but instead use only pack animals, it will often falsely tell you that your depot is not accessible: a pack animal can go anywhere your dwarves can go, but a wagon needs a three tile wide path (since a wagon is three tiles wide) of Template:Ls, Template:Ls and Template:Ls (wagons can't use stairs), clear of obstructions like Template:Ls, Template:Ls and installed Template:L.

Do not have more than one depot at once, since this will confuse the caravans about which one to go to. If you're playing a mod where several different caravans can show up at once they'll all share the same depot without a problem.

Arrival of the caravan and liaison

At some point in late autumn the dwarven Template:L and Template:L will arrive, pausing the game, Template:L by:

The outpost liaison _____ from ______ has arrived.
A caravan from _____ has arrived.

Though they'll arrive at the same instant, they'll appear at different points along the edge of your site. The caravan will head straight for your Template:L, and the liaison will head straight for your Template:L. If you have no depot yet the caravan will wait at the edge of the site, in which case you build one to get them to come it. If they remain at the edge even if you have a depot it's because there's no open path from them to the depot, likely because of a locked Template:L or raised Template:L; opening up the path will let them come in.

Trading with the caravan

Note that you might have your meeting with the Template:L before you get to trade with the caravan. If that happens, skip to the meeting with the liason‡ section.

Getting a dwarf to the depot

You need to get one of your dwarves to the depot to be able to trade. By default, if you've appointed a dwarf to be the Template:L then s/he'll be the one to do the trading; this lets you control exactly who does the Template:L, so that a dwarf with the right skills will do it. Use n to go to the Template:L screen and appoint‡ your Template:L, since he'll have the highest Template:L skill, which is useful in trading.

Once you have a broker, go to the depot and use q to interact with it. This will tell you who your broker is, what job (if any) the broker currently has, and if he can access the depot. Use r to request that the broker go to the depot for trading. (If your broker is indisposed, or if you have no broker, you can use b to get any random dwarf to be the trader instead)

Finally, go to your expedition leader (probably via the units screen‡), use v-p-l to manipulate his Template:Ls, and turn them all off‡ to make sure that he goes to the depot, since going to the depot has a low priority compared to the other labors; when he's doing trading you can turn his labors back on.

Moving trade goods to the depot

You can only sell items to the caravan which are inside the depot. To move goods to the depot use q to interact with the depot, then g to enter "move trade goods" mode. Down the left side of the screen will be a list of item categories, while down the middle will be the list of available items, with the items closest to the depot being listed first. Rather than scrolling through the whole list, you can filter for only the items you want. Use s to enter the word you want to search for, type in "FINI" to search for "finished goods", and press Enter. This will cause all of the finished goods Template:Ls containing your rock Template:Ls to be listed (note that items inside of containers can't be individually listed/select for moving to the depot, so typing "MUG" won't show anything). Use or to move from the left column to the middle column, and to highlight a particular bin, and Enter to select it to be moved to the depot. Once selected the far right column will show a [PENDING], indicating that it's been selected for trading at the depot but hasn't been moved there yet. When the item arrives at the depot it will change to [TRADING].

Press Esc twice to exit to the main menu and unpause to wait for the caravan to get to the depot and unload, and for your broker to get to the depot.

Actual trading

Once the caravan has reached the depot and unloaded its goods, and your broker is at the depot, you can enter the trading screen by interacting with the depot (q) and then pressing t. The trading screen will show you the caravan's goods on the left side and your good on the right. The Template:L of each item will be indicated by a number followed by Template:L, and the Template:L in kilograms by a number followed by Γ. You can switch which side you want to select from with or , scroll with and , and select an item for trading with Enter, which will cause a [T] to appear next to it, marking it as part of the deal you're planning to make; pressing Enter a second time will remove it from the planned deal. Marking a caravan item for trade means you're buying it from the caravan, and marking one of your items for trade means you're selling it to the caravan. If you mark a Template:L for trading then you'll buy/sell the bin and everything inside of it, which can be convenient if you want to buy/sell a lot of items at once, but can be bad if you want to sell a lot of stuff at once but keep the bin. If you want to sell many items in a bin without selling the bin itself, but don't want to tediously do -Enter over and over, you can set up a Template:L to take care of the tedious typing.

In the far lower left-hand corner the screen is one number indicating the Trader Profit for the planned deal, and to its right the total Value of everything that the caravan is selling for that planned deal. To guarantee that the merchants accept your deal you should give them at least a 50% profit (for example, if the Value on the left is 1,000☼, then the Trader Profit should be at least 500☼). To get away with giving the merchants less profit on a deal, see Template:L.

In the far lower right-hand corner is Allowed Weight, which shows how many more kilograms of weight the caravan can take on. If the planned deal would give the caravan too much weight to carry, it will become Excess Weight. If a deal would lead to excess weight, you'll have to expand the deal to buy heavy items from the caravan until there's no more excess weight. Low cost but heavy things to buy are lumps of Template:L and Template:Ls of Template:L (at the very top of the list of caravan items) and metal Template:Ls (several pages down from the top of the list of caravan items). You might also want to buy some of the Template:Ls (at the very top of the list), since they're cheap and you can always use more logs.

Once you have a planned deal with a large enough trader profit and no excess weight, use t to propose the deal to the merchant. If the profit is large enough the trader will accept the deal, his Template:L will improve, and ownership of the marked items will change hands. If the profit is too small (or gives the trader a loss) then he'll reject the deal and his mood will worsen; if his mood gets bad enough then he'll refuse to trade at all. If the profit isn't large enough but isn't too small then he'll make a counter offer, marking more of your items for trade ([T]). If you get a counter offer you can press t again to accept it, but since the counter offer will give the merchant a larger profit margin than the minimum necessary for an acceptable deal you should probably unselect some of your marked items with Enter until you get a profit margin larger than you first offer but smaller than the counter offer, then press t.

If you want to start a planned deal over from scratch, simply leave the trading screen with Esc and re-enter it with t.

Item quality, decorations and containers

Some of the caravan items will have a higher than base Template:L, indicated by the item name being bracketed with -, +, *, or . Item quality only increases the effectiveness of Template:L, Template:Ls and Template:Ls, and otherwise just increases the value of the item. Thus unless you're buying one of those types of items you should ignore the quality and just go for whatever is cheapest.

Some of the caravan items will be Template:L, indicated by the item name being bracketed with « ». The only thing decoration does is increase the value of the item, so ignore decorations and just buy whatever is cheapest.

Pieces of Template:L can be Template:L, which is similar to an item being decorated in that it increases the value of the cloth, but dyed pieces of cloth aren't bracketed by any symbols; the only immediate indication that a piece of cloth is dyed or not is that different pieces of the same type of cloth will have different costs.

If you buy something that's in a container you have to pay for both the contained item and the container. If, for example, you buy a Template:L which is in a superior quality Template:L which is decorated with diamonds, rubies and sapphires then the vast majority of the cost is going to be for the cage; there's no way to buy just the cow but not the cage.

What should I buy?

For the very first caravan you should buy Template:L and Template:L, for several reasons:

If there's any animals in cages you could buy the grazing animals in an effort to get a Template:L pair to start a meat industry, which can also let you get Template:L and Template:L if the animals are of the right types; however, this requires having enough Template:L to feed all those animals. If there's female birds in cages you can use them to get a steady supply of Template:Ls, which is easy to do since tame birds don't need to be fed. Even if you don't want eggs you can buy the birds and put them into your Template:L to give your dwarves happy Template:L; you can not do the same with the grazing animals, since they do need to be fed and will starve to death if kept in a cage.

Removing items from the depot (or leaving them there)

When you buy an item from the caravan your dwarves will move it from the depot to the appropriate stockpile‡, if there's a stockpile which accepts that item and has empty space. Otherwise the bought item will stay in the depot until space opens up in an appropriate stockpile. The depot can hold a limitless number of items, which can be Template:L in a manner similar to Template:L. Note that the depot does not have the Template:L preserving properties of a food stockpile, so if you buy any food from the caravan you should make sure that your food stockpiles have enough empty room in them for the bought food. You should also immediately Template:L any Template:L or Template:L you bought to prevent it from spoiling.

Items which you brought to the depot for trading but you haven't sold will remain there for as long as they're marked for trading. They'll lose the "marked for trading" status either when the caravan leaves the depot, or if you enter the depot's "goods for trading" screen (q-g) and manually unmark them. At that point your dwarves will move those items from the depot to stockpiles like they would for bought items. If you remove your stockpiles for trade goods before this happens then your unsold trade goods will remain in the depot, saving you the trouble of hauling them back there for the next caravan (though note that this is an Template:L).

The appraisal skill and item value

The first dwarf to get a look at a caravan's good's (via q-t on the trade depot) will gain experience at the Template:L skill. Since the dwarf to do this was your Template:L examining an item will now show you the item's Template:L, where before this information was missing.

Liaison

Import agreement

Whenever the Template:L is within a few tiles of your Template:L while the leader had no task, the liaison will go through the steps of a meeting. The first meeting screen simply shows a line of unimportant blue dialogue; you can continue by pressing either Esc or Enter (all dialogue screens are exited in this way). You'll return to the normal game for a little bit, and then get a screen with white text where the second line begins with an a; for this screen (and any screen like it) you have to press a to continue. This will immediately bring you to this screen:

SCREENSHOT PLACEHOLDER

This screen lets you place orders for items, which will come with the next dwarven caravan a game-year from now. The first column is the Type of item to order (Template:L, Template:L, Template:L, etc), which can be scrolled through with - and +. The second column, Good, lists the available selection of the given type (i.e., type "wood" would list pine, willow, etc), and can be scrolled through with and . When a item in the second column has been selected you can order that item with (pressing multiple times will order more of that item). Your order is shown in the third column, Priority, by the O moving to the right and the priority line changing color. You can increase the priority for an individual item at most four times, resulting in the O being all the way to the right and the color being yellow. The higher the priority of an order the more of that item the next caravan will bring, but the item will also be more expensive.

SCREENSHOT PLACEHOLDER

If you change your mind you can decrease the priority of the order with . If you move the O all the way to the left, with the line turning grey, then you've entirely canceled your order for that item.

Once you are satisfied with your import agreement, press Esc to finalize it and move on to the next parts of the conversation.

Note that when the dwarven caravan and liaison come back next game-year the agreement you made this year will be wiped clean, so if you want to import the same things every year you'll have to re-select them each year.

What's available for import

For the entire duration of this game (or any fortress game) the liaison will always offer you the same list of items, since that is determined by which dwarven civilization is your parent civilization. If you abandon your fortress and start a new one in the same world with the same parent civilization (________) you'll get the same list. If you abandon your fortress and start a new one in the same world with a different parent civilization, or start a fortress in a different world, the list will be different. The items which are available depend upon the location in the world that your parent civilization is located. If it's at a place where there's no rubies or iron ore to mine, then you won't be able to import rubies or any iron items. If it's located next to a jungle you'll be able to import some meat and leather of jungle animals, if it's located next to an ocean you'll be able to import some salt-water fish, and so on.

Things you'll never be able to import, regardless of your parent civilization:

  1. Surface crops or anything made from them.
  2. Template:L, Template:L, Template:Ls, Template:Ls, Template:Ls or Template:L.
  3. Template:L, Template:L or Template:L.
  4. Template:L.
  5. Template:L or Template:L.

What should I import?

Export agreement

After finalizing the import agreement, the next part of the meeting with the liaison will begin Remember, trade agreements strengthen bonds; press a to continue. Next will be Let's discuss what we are willing to offer for your craftdwarfship; press a to continue. Then will be Well, then, we have finalized the export agreement; press a to continue.

You will now be looking at the export agreement. When the dwarven caravan arrives next game-year, the listed goods will sell to the caravan for the listed price. There is no requirement to produce any of these items or sell them to the next year's caravan, and it generally isn't worth it to change which trade goods you make to take advantage of the higher prices, so most players simply ignore the export agreement.

There's no way to alter or influence the export agreement, so the only thing to do is to press Esc to move on. You'll be given a screen of dialogue saying Farewell, and the liaison will leave.

Trading with elves

Wood

In the Template:L after the dwarven caravan comes you'll be visited by an Template:L caravan. Trading with them is the same as trading with anyone else, except that they become extremely offended if you try to sell or offer them anything made from Template:L. This includes:

  • Anything made from underground "trees", even though they're technically giant mushrooms.
  • Selling back to the elves wooden items they sold to you.
  • Wooden Template:Ls holding the trade goods you're selling them. This means you have to individually select for sale every item inside a wooden bin.
  • Any item which is necessarily derived from wood: Template:L, Template:L, Template:L, Template:L, Template:L, Template:L (which requires lye), and clear or crystal Template:L (which require pearlash).

Things which won't offend the elven merchants:

  • Anything which you don't try to sell/offer. This includes wooden walls/floors/bridges/etc, a trade depot made from wood, and wooden bins which are merely used to move goods to the trade depot.
  • Plant material which isn't wood (that is, crops).
  • Anything which was made using a wood derived product, but which could have been made without them. For example, if you used a chunk of Template:L to smelt a Template:L nugget into a gold bar, then a second chunk of charcoal to forge the gold bar into Template:Ls, you can safely sell the goblets to the elves, since they'll assume that you used Template:L or Template:L to produce them.
  • Anything made from animal products, like Template:L, Template:L and Template:Ls. Even though elves are at peace with wildlife and elven merchants never bring any animal products with them, they'll happily buy them from you.
  • Template:L with an Template:L (though the fact that this doesn't offend them is probably a bug).

Empty cages

If an elven caravan has an apparently empty Template:L for sale, the cage might contain a tame Template:L. You can see if this is the case or not by examining the contents of the cage with v.