Editing v0.31 Talk:Arsenal dwarf

== Eliminated ==

Toady has just posted that he removed the arsenal dwarf from the upcoming version. --[[User:Calculator|Calculator]] 20:52, 7 July 2010 (UTC)


=="Need office"?==
Hello, I'm not sure where or how to post/report this, but...my Arsenal Dwarf keeps spitting out red announcements: "Urist McBugged, arsenal dwarf, cancels Prepare Equipment Manifests: Need office."  However, he does indeed have an office (judging from the nobles menu).  I went to check on it, and everything is there.  The strangest part: this was all working fine awhile ago!  One minute, I'm in panic mode to fix some supplies up for a strange mood, and the next minute my arsenal dwarf refuses to work.  If this is the place to get help, can someone suggest a fix for this loony tune?
--[[Special:Contributions/72.227.104.158|72.227.104.158]] 03:40, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
:Try giving him a different office, maybe?  Or maybe he can't GET to his assigned office.  He's not trapped in a pit or something, is he? --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 04:12, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
::No, he wasn't trapped or anything, but his replacement for the job did work just fine.  The only change I made to the entire fortress between his work and his refusal to do anything was to give his office a door.  Not a locked one or anything, but again, that's all that happened.  He was just chillin' in a statue garden refusing to do any job, even civilian duties he was assigned to.  I gave him his job back after letting his replacement update the manifests, so we'll see how things work out from here.  Still, though, thanks for reminding me to check to ensure he hadn't fallen from a tower in my fortress or anything.--[[Special:Contributions/72.227.104.158|72.227.104.158]] 15:38, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

==Capitalization==

Just to set a precedent - Arsenal Dwarf is a proper title and should always have its A and D capitalized on the wiki. A lot of users are confused about what the AD does or what happens before/after it appears and it'd be best to draw their eye to the title. --[[User:Retro|Retro]] 06:48, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:If it's a title, and both words are capitalized in the game, then that's how it should be in the article name, no doubt.  That's always been the guideline, just rarely happens that way.--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 07:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

==Requirements==

Can someone verify the requirements?  I have 45 dwarves but I can't appoint an arsenal dwarf.  [[User:Bouchart|Bouchart]] 23:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:There's no note on this page (dunno why) but there's a bug that causes your arsenal dwarf position to randomly open up sometime after you pass 20 dwarves. Just keep checking. Nobody knows why this is yet. --[[User:Retro|Retro]] 23:18, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

::In the mean time they'll pick up their equipment on their own, so it's not a big deal. [[Special:Contributions/24.255.86.193|24.255.86.193]]

:::On two maps so far I have had this position open up at around 40 dwarves.  Neither time did I have a sheriff, but both times I had just "built" my first armour stand and made it a barracks for training.  I don't know if it's a coincidence or not, but it would see reasonable to me that the position would only open up when it's needed.  Perhaps it's even tied to the ability to store weapons/armour in weapon racks/armour stands?  Needs to be tested. --[[User:Frewfrux|Frewfrux]] 23:18, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

==Effects of removing the Arsenal Dwarf from raws==
Other users have reported that their militaries fare better if they remove the arsenal dwarf from the raws altogether.  The need for an arsenal dwarf doesn't seem to be hardcoded so the military will always gather their own equipment if you leave him out. Should this be mentioned? --Commondragon

== Her? ==

Why the strictly female reference? "the military will not carry out equipment changing orders without her processing them at her office." [[Special:Contributions/98.124.25.50|98.124.25.50]] 21:59, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
:It looks like that isn't actually true. The article refers to "him" later on when advocating the combination of this and the manager positions. At any rate, the use of the female pronoun is generally accepted as the standard. Use of the gender vague "them" and "they" is awkward in this context. If it helps, think of "her" as the default state: we all start as female in the womb, until the androgens kick in.[[User:JohnnyMadhouse|JohnnyMadhouse]] 01:06, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
::Uh, I don't know what "the use of the female pronoun is generally accepted as the standard" means.  "generally accepted"?  By who?  Someone's since changed the article to not use either he or she, and to me using "he" just seems more obvious to me.  Not that it's related at all, but we don't all "start as female". [[User:Mason11987|Mason]] <sup>([[User talk:Mason11987|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Mason11987|C]])</sup> 21:55, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:::I went ahead and made the article gender-neutral. "She" is the politically correct option at times when either "he" or "she" would suffice, but I figured that gender neutrality would be the best way to avoid people getting offended one way or the other. RE starting as female: During the development of the human embryo, we all do start with a female body plan that is later modified by androgen hormones. In some people, the receptors don't work. That's why we have XY women who look perfectly feminine running around. That's what I meant by us all starting as women. [[User:JohnnyMadhouse|JohnnyMadhouse]] 20:02, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Even as a transgender person, I find the standard use the the pronoun, "she" just as weird as the use of "he." There is no "standard" either way. "She" is not standard. "He" traditionally was; take a look at English Lit. if you doubt me. That doesn't mean either should be standard. Technically, "one" is the only standard gender neutral pronoun out there, and no one wants to use that. As one of the only truly gender neutral people I've seen, I find this whole debate is kind of pointless isn't it? Just make it gender neutral and no, "she" isn't any more gender neutral than "he." Now can we please get back on point: updating the wiki to the new version?--[[Special:Contributions/76.188.109.43|76.188.109.43]] 21:15, 25 April 2010 (UTC)