Editing v0.31 Talk:Machine component

It should be noted that screw pumps can be used to transfer power, even if it's not usable as a pump or the most efficient connector, but only from the front tile. I'm just not sure where to put that info. [[User:Uzu Bash|Uzu Bash]] 16:28, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
: Not true - they can transfer power via both tiles.  Otherwise the [http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/File:PumpStack2010.png pump stack] wouldn't work. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 05:37, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
:: You sure about that? Look closely at the picture you reference. The front tile of each pump is connected to the rear tile of the pump above it. The rear tile is where power is applied, either by machine or by dwarf. The front tile is where power is utilized, and where it is transferred from. Only the front tile can transfer power. Only the rear tile can accept power. So, yes, both tiles are utilized in transferring power, the front is the power source, the back is the power receptor. <small>&ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:GhostDwemer|GhostDwemer]]</small>
::: Yes, I'm sure about that.  That picture doesn't say whether the power is being supplied to the bottom pump, and fed upwards, or the top pump, and fed downwards.  It'll work either way.  The DWR works best if you take power out from above the pump - it doesn't matter whether you put the gear/axle above the dark tile, or the light tile.  Test it yourself - build a DWR, then build a vertical axle above one tile and a gear above the other.  They'll both get power - and they can't transfer power directly to each other. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 23:04, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

- I think this article needs some more and better diagrams. The pump one is far less confusing with them, and this one would be too.

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That's almost helpful; would it have killed you to specify ''which'' articles? [[Special:Contributions/68.6.191.69|68.6.191.69]] 15:20, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


== Machines and Ice ==

I have a glacial fort and I'm trying to pump magma to the surface. As a precursor, I tried building a windmill to see if there was wind on the map; after a few trial and error builds, I build the windmill such that: constructed 3x3 rock floor on top of ice, with channel in center tile; gear assembly 1 z-level down, built upon a constructed rock floor. The gear assembly doesn't move, saying "frozen elsewhere." However, the windmill also says "frozen elsewhere." Those are the only two components, so I don't know what's going on.

I'm building the pump stack (almost finished) but once I got to the few top z-levels of ice, I get the frozen elsewhere message from all the pumps. Again, I'm building the pumps on constructed rock floors, not bare ice.

Does anybody know what's going on here? This may be a bug if it's not due to my ineptitude. --[[User:Zander j|Zander j]] 03:30, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
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 Does anybody know what's going on here? This may be a bug if it's not due to my ineptitude. --[[User:Zander j|Zander j]] 03:30, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
-== Maximum Total Power ==
-In DF 0.31.25, I've noticed that a single machine cannot have more than 5000 Total Power (OR a single machine doesn't gain power from more than 50 water wheels, but they still need 10 power as usual). I think the article should note this, but more research is needed - I have only tested this with water wheels. Has anyone tested the limit with windmills? - [[Special:Contributions/91.153.29.155|91.153.29.155]] 18:40, 27 December 2011 (UTC)