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--[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 15:20, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 
--[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 15:20, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 
:Fahrenheit is the main unit because in-game temperatures (degrees Urist) are equal to degrees Fahrenheit + 9968. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 15:51, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 
:Fahrenheit is the main unit because in-game temperatures (degrees Urist) are equal to degrees Fahrenheit + 9968. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 15:51, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:: I'm assuming these numbers were pulled out of the raws somewhere? You need to verify your assumption about the actual temperature of magma. Someone is apparently reading this page and having problems. [http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=1579#bugnotes] Check the link for details. --[[User:Doctorzuber|Doctorzuber]] 17:27, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
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:: I'm assuming these numbers were pulled out of the raws somewhere? You need to verify your assumption about the actual temperature of magma. Someone is apparently reading this page and having problems. The highlights are that he's melting bauxite, obsidian, mica, and nickel doors and screaming at the bugtracker in anger. [http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=1579#bugnotes] Check the link for more details. --[[User:Doctorzuber|Doctorzuber]] 17:27, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
  
 
==Errors / Unknowns==
 
==Errors / Unknowns==

Revision as of 17:37, 27 April 2010

This article's contents are working under the assumption that the temperature of magma is still 12000 as it was in 40d - given that the magma man's FIXED_TEMP is still 12000, this should be a reasonable assumption for now. Once Dtil is updated (or a similar utility is made available), this should be reasonably simple to verify. --Quietust 14:56, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

I calculated Celsius temperatures from Urist based on two of the known points, and floored the result. (Rounding to the nearest might be more accurate, but it should be close enough for all practical purposes, and this required less examining of the decimals). Note that the Magnetite melting temperature is approximately the real magnetite melting temperature - so i imagine most of these are based on real melting temperatures, although i also checked some others (eg, Hematite) whose actual melt temperature is a range (which was consistent, but not useful for real independent verification).

Question: Why does the layout give preference to Farenheit anyway? If anything, Celsius should be preferred. (Actually, Kelvin should be preferred since its the metric unit).

--Squirrelloid 15:20, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Fahrenheit is the main unit because in-game temperatures (degrees Urist) are equal to degrees Fahrenheit + 9968. --Quietust 15:51, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm assuming these numbers were pulled out of the raws somewhere? You need to verify your assumption about the actual temperature of magma. Someone is apparently reading this page and having problems. The highlights are that he's melting bauxite, obsidian, mica, and nickel doors and screaming at the bugtracker in anger. [1] Check the link for more details. --Doctorzuber 17:27, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Errors / Unknowns

Celsius and Fahrenheit are reversed in the table header, and I don't see how to change that. --The Architect 04:00, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

  • Fixed it by editting the template, hopefully its only used in this article (I assume it is as its called MS template) --AKAfreaky 12:33, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Does the table reflect a research into all stone RAWs, verifying that these are the only magma-safe ones?

Glass

I've had magma pumps (stacked) with glass components break down every time. Seems to take slightly longer than wood but still rather fast.